Redpill me on Sacred Architecture/Flower of life/The Tree of

>>18290040
Please stop. These things don't matter.

File: 1473999887783.jpg (52KB, 511x509px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 511x509px

Your god was a Jew.

File: Russian-Cross-Sunset.jpg (5KB, 259x194px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 259x194px

>>18290090
Yes, but he had a new law. The jews that didn't accept his law are now Talmudists, and followers of satan.

File: 893660897-orthodox-church-building-wonderful-world-greece-south-aegean-mykonos-island.jpg (18KB, 960x540px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 960x540px

>>18290061
>goes to /x.
>Someone says don't post /x tier stuff on /x

Literally, what?

>How demonic are fractal patterns observable in nature

you really starting to wear things out real fast with the "everything is demonic" spiel

File: 1477955777775.jpg (41KB, 502x542px) Image search: [Google]

41KB, 502x542px

>>18290155
Well technically that is true, though. Everything outside of the Orthodoxy is demonic to some extent in a way. The Path is Narrow.

>>18290185

then maybe you should go to the "Orthodoxy" and related media forums and stay there

>>18290185
Is my dick demonic? Cuz it ain't narrow

>>18290185
Clouds thick enough to stand upon, but constantly shifting, and so fleeting that only winged beings could possibly stand upon its molten surfaces, I imagine, much the same way a surfer stands upon a wave of water, before it falls away beneath their feet

File: israeli_flag_smiley_face_ceramic_ornament-r6435e03cf0884e7982fb76a7f0e03dfb_x7s2y_8byvr_324.jpg (18KB, 324x324px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 324x324px

>>18290194
How about you Go to one of you devil worshipping threads and stay there? There's a hundred other threads here. What I'm talking about includes religions with probably around 1 billion followers all said. Pretty relevant to the real world. More relevant than any Gnostic, Wicca or Alister Crowley fart poems or whatever you guys 'typically' talk about in paranormal.

Thanks for your opinion!

File: ordodracul-emboss.gif (21KB, 250x242px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 250x242px

OP, I think Satan is working With God.

God is Everything, even Satan, no discrimination. Praise Satan. Praise God.

File: adidas-awesome-beautiful-black-Favim.com-4518215.jpg (53KB, 610x684px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 610x684px

>>18290231
No, the devil wallows in despair. He is almost infinitely stubborn and is what you would call 'clinically depressed.'

>>18290226

you got mad fast, you should check out them hormonal levels

>What I'm talking about includes religions with probably around 1 billion followers all said. Pretty relevant to the real world. More relevant than any Gnostic, Wicca or Alister Crowley fart poems or whatever you guys 'typically' talk about in paranormal.

So why don't go to /Orthodox General/ on /pol/ and discuss it there, instead of making up nonsense post about fractal patterns, baiting guys who discuss these things here typically?

File: 1471234521800.jpg (52KB, 500x665px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 500x665px

>>18290239

You are a fool if you have time to worry about the affairs of gods instead of pondering your own life and, thus, your own sins.

File: ahs-angel-bird-black-Favim.com-3764739.jpg (82KB, 500x333px) Image search: [Google]

82KB, 500x333px

>>18290241
You know, Enemy...No matter where I go, You bother me. I don't know why it is...but there is just a thorn upon you that compells you to express hatred for Orthodoxy. Besides which, you know full well Orthodoxy General threads are consistently invaded with people who say go to /x, kys, and go on to post pictures of murder scenes and gore and porn to hurt my brothers.

In short, you'd never be satisfied, as long as I'm a person expressing myself in any form ever in any forum here.

So I can't agree ever, Thx. :)

Until you change your mind that is and embrace God and His Church in Orthodoxy and then you'd be my brother.

>>18290258

>You know, Enemy...No matter where I go, You bother me. I don't know why it is...but there is just a thorn upon you that compells you to express hatred for Orthodoxy.

Can't tell if RP or legit autistic with a persecution complex

File: e4059727adb8482631b0ab12ea35a63e.jpg (15KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 300x300px

>>18290264
>Bothers me

I say, "you bothered me for no reason"

>hey look ahah I bothered him 'persecution complex' may may famalam


...okay?

Drop a coin into a juke-box=plays a song

File: We+all+have+out+smug+anime+girl+secrets+_520015338c5a64975e4a6014c060dde1.png (311KB, 561x590px) Image search: [Google]

311KB, 561x590px

>>18290258
>Everywhere I look, there's enemies, who don't even know they're my enemies.
>And it's their fault I feel this way.

Is taking ownership over your own world view Satanic? Is that literally what Satanism is about?

File: thoughts.jpg (355KB, 1900x908px) Image search: [Google]

355KB, 1900x908px

>>18290298

Solipsism is actively promoted by Satanists in the masses, but is considered a sin/flaw of charater within the ranks.

look up Mark Passio he drops some truth bombs on that topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTFV4Q1OAdQ

File: 1430224327769.jpg (21KB, 300x300px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 300x300px

>>18290298
...Or you could try and answer my original questions instead of laying into me right out of the gate with your "kike on a stick" comment to open it up. Do you honestly think Christians haven't heard this line 1000 times?

In any event, actual replies to my original question would be appreciated...as opposed to derail comments.

File: Destiny_Fucker.png (3MB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 2560x1440px

>>18290314
Somewhere in between solipsism, and determinism is a place where the only barrier to peoples' collective will is their conflicting desires. It's not solipsism, because it acknowledges a reality outside one's self. Nor is it determinism, because it acknowledges the concept of choice. In this place, what you give out is what you get back.

Is that place I just described Satanic? I genuinely would like to know where Catholics stand on the sliding free will scale. Are they trying to link their brains into some kind of hive mind, or something? Is that who they are? I always imagined that was the domain of their story about demons, or whatever, but if Catholics start telling me that they have no freewill but are merely the instruments which are remote controlled by their deity, I'd feel inclined to believe them, and wish them luck on their chosen path.

>>18290337
You sound flustered, asshat.
It would do you some good to stop acting high and mighty when you ask a stupid question in the op and get called out for said stupidity.

>>18290374
This is going to be long.
I will use here a number of metaphors from science fiction, please bear with me.
As I understand, this is what Catholics believe:
* God exists outside of our time continuum. In Catholic parlance, he is "eternal"
(eternal is something that exists out of time. Something living inside our time, forever, is called sempiternal);
* Humans and a number of other things have free will, the capacity of interfering with reality within their desires. This power was given by, and it is a part, of God;
* God has the ability to interfere within our reality. This is called "divine providence", or just providence. It is for practical purposes what could be called time travel interference. It changes future after the intervention, but, since God is disconnected from our time, he is not affected by paradoxes.
* God does not know what will be the result of the intervention before doing it. After it, he can see the outcome until the end of time, as an outside observer. This explains things like God's regret for having created Man. God's knowledge of the future is somewhat limited, as you can see.

Now, an interesting addition I heard from a slightly drunk Catholic, the four accounts of resurrection differ in several minor details because all of them happened. There differ from one another because they are from different "time lines", so to say; and the gospels were written by revelation, not necessarily direct witnesses.

Disclaimer, my position on this stuff, which is cleverly untestable, is, even if true, I don't care. In my eyes, the Judeo-Christian is a tyrant for all the standard fedora reasons. I am agnostic about the Hermetic view of the universe, leaning towards being partial about it. But the God from the Bible is not my friend.
I'm commuting to work now, and I won't be able to reply questions for perhaps fourteen hours or more (Third World problems). Anyway, feel free to ask anything. I'll reply if the thread is still alive.

>>18291017
Of course, Catholics who think there are heresies here are free to state their opinion on the subject.
This is coming from a former Catholic layman, not from someone who is versed on the finer details of theology. The concepts I listed here should be enough for you to start your own research, or make educated questions to a Catholic priest, which you should try.

>>18290040
its shape pron . lot of dirty minds and stupid fetishes. your little circle orgy is a prime example of shape pron

File: IMG_6150.jpg (33KB, 478x304px) Image search: [Google]

33KB, 478x304px

>>18291017
Was this directed at OP? OP is an Eastern Orthodox Christian, not a Roman Catholic. In any event, what you say does seem a bit off to me--a bit gnostic as it were. I'm not sure how it relates it relates moreover to OPs question regarding Kaballah, the tree of life, the flower of life, etc. Could you maybe answer a bit of that first?

In terms of what you say about the nature and mind of God, Orthodox Christians view that as a mystery. We don't open our books, for instance with proofs of God's existence, the same way a child doesn't open up their journal or photo album with proofs of the fact they had a mother and father.

We find thinking along these lines to be wanting.

File: 1473647918669.gif (81KB, 182x249px) Image search: [Google]

81KB, 182x249px

>>18291145
That was my mistake.

I honestly didn't realize that Orthodox Christianity and Catholicism were different groups, until now. So I asked specifically about the latter. I'm now in something of a stupor.

It's not enough to have pissing contests about whose god is real is it? Now I'm finding out that for almost a millennium, you've been arguing about whose version of the same god is the correct one. For fucking real?

>"Jesus is my lord and savior."
>"Nuhuh. JESUS is your lord and savior."
>"NO HE ISN'T, JESUS IS."
>"NUH-UH!"
>"YAH-HUH!"

Christianity, ladies and gentlemen.

>>18290226
jesus get's covered in shit in the talmud. jews are good guys tho.

>>18290040
Wtf is going on in this thread?

Is OP trolling? I honestly cannot tell by your legit cruel dogmatic logic.

Orthodox Christianity is of its own regards an 'orthodox' variant of Christianity as a whole from my personal understanding. Your manner of handling others is unorthodox, you're almost begging people to attack you then use your religion which you probably don't practice fully despite preaching as your defense.

Talk about the mortal sin of pride, op...

As for your question, I believe God or the Creator of our reality is intelligent, at least in that we have a system of arithmetic, that forms shapes and ratios that form designs and patterns that form structures. Seems intelligent enough to me to imply an intelligent design which begs the question if random chance could so perfectly throw this all together with great coincidence.

The flower of life is determined a geometric shape that for a while now, at least a few hundred years in history, was seen as a 'sacred' representation and was used as a protective ward by witches to a metaphorical measure of reality by modern new age spiritualists.

The only satanic stuff to come from 'sacred geometry' like a merkaba or golden spiral flower, or metatrons cube or the flower of life, is the inversion of these sacred symbols, most notably the pentagram and the triangle, which creates the all seeing eye and the infinite sigil of the lower realms dominating the higher ones, these are of themselves modified designs of negative energies to perpetuate themselves, but exceptions exist. Just as black magic can be used to heal ailments, it can be used to cause them.

Open your mind and research this stuff. The kabbalah is just kundalini practices given a tangible method of teaching. Astrology, tarot, tea leaf reading, and all those forms of divination or magic are not satanic in cause or nature or intent.

You obviously have an interest in spirituality. You should ask about spirituality.

File: CCedited1.jpg (350KB, 704x704px) Image search: [Google]

350KB, 704x704px

>>18290040
The "flower of life" is just a simplified representation of the what "God" looks like. It's meant for simple-minded beings like us humans so that we are able to understand it too.

The Jewish symbol is also a simplified version of what "God" looks like.

And here's a slightly more advanced version made by more advanced beings.

File: godnetwork.jpg (859KB, 2810x2438px) Image search: [Google]

859KB, 2810x2438px

>>18292200
And here's my current version based on my experience with "God" itself. Not 100% accurate though.

>>18291145
It was an answer to "I genuinely would like to know where Catholics stand on the sliding free will scale."
But I consider Christianism to be a Gnostic heresy, so yes, that may have colored my opinion. Like I said, it'd be better to ask a Catholic priest.

>>18291787
>someone actually knows his shit on /x/
this

>>18291787
>all those forms of divination or magic are not satanic in cause or nature or intent.
Deuteronomy 18:10-11
King James Version (KJV)

10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.

11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

In my uneducated opinion this sounds like nope.

>>18290185
>The Path is Narrow.

Perhaps, but your delusion is grand...

>>18292273
>My book comprised of highly edited stories clumped together to form an inconsistent dialog, trumps everything that came before it!

You worship a man named Jesus.

You criticize those that worship GOD.

The power of arrogance compels you.

>>18292349
The point of the post was to show that according to the Bible magic is forbidden. Nowhere it says it doesn't work.

>>18292355
>According to the Bible magic is forbidden.
i.e.
>My book comprised of highly edited stories clumped together to form an inconsistent dialog, trumps everything that came before it!
i.e.
The "bible" is relatively new text of dubious origin.

>>18291403
Find me one faith where there aren't schismatic groups and different interpretations of complex theologies.

Come on son.

>>18292525
But how can this be! The word of the bible is absolute, is it not?

>>18290222
great trips

>>18292206
>>18292200
so basically, god is everything that can or will ever happen.

>>18290258
Bahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>18290185

A lens which sees all but itself as demonic? How childish.

Alright, OP. I'll try to spoonfeed it to you.

You know that guy, God? Well, he is here. Inside us and stuff. And he is also around, and above.

You see, you do stuff and you get results back, right? You have effects following causes, right, so it is not all chaos, right?

So, if you go up that stream you'll see that everything must have a preceding cause. In the beginning you shall find God, or the Logos. I like word 'Monad'.

This all must no seem in no way any new to you, but let's move foward.

And well, you must have noticed that you have this thing called mind, which the church managed to fill with a lot of words and concepts and letters and numbers. What the Kabbalah does is to explain that thing to you. You know, the mind. We all have experienced neurosis, intrusive thoughts et cetera. These things can be understood through Kabbalah and Hermetica. And, you see, you might have a few goals in life, like do some great work and magnum opus. Well, to do that you must first HAVE IT IN MIND. And to put it out there, you must first think about it. Think about it, feel it, and act upon it. This is Kabbalah. You know the good deeds your savior told you, and the role of faith? Well, it all fits here. You must have faith to act, and must act to produce deeds.

Now, Kabbalah works upon geometry to explain your little puny mind and God's Higher Mind. The flower of life is our current, 3rd dimensional most accurate representation of the movement of God through the infinity of Eons, or something like this, 'cause, you know, God has no dimensions and has all of them at the same time and stuff.

If Kabbalah is demonic, and so is the flower of life, thence your mind is demonic, and so is the whole of your being, and the whole of Creation. Free your mind and your ass will follow.

>>18290040
Here's Sacred Geometry 101:
>Draw a pattern
>Assign an arbitrary meaning to it
Bam! You're now a sacred geometry master.

>>18291787
We need more people like you on this board, friend.

>>18292693
I am afraid you have wasted both time and energy in composing your post.

But, bless you for making the effort, your deed brings me hope.

>>18292698
Here is baseless criticism 101:
>Offer an over simplified view of the activity.
>Ridicule the mechanics of said activity via imposition of personal opinion.
Bam! You're now a master-de-bater.

>>18292273
When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there.

Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter to the fire or who makes his son or daughter pass through the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft.

Or cast spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead.

Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord, and because of these detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you.

You must be blameless before the Lord your God.

>What this says is:
>We cannot devalidate the experiences acquired by these people through their cultural, religious, or occutish ways, thus they are detestable.
>Our God demands we surrender our Free Will to him, not flex it.
>These detestable practices flex our free will, they would anger our God.
>Our God when angry sends floods that wipe out nations.
>DO NOT PRACTICE THESE THINGS OR GOD WILL KILL US

>You must be capable of God's mercy once you stand before him.
>Must be as God before God

>Basically be God by becoming God by moving beyond the practices that only God can prove.

>But if I took these passages literally, it'd say something closer to, while reincarnate/incarnate/alive do not practice the arts of divinity, especially sacrificial magic involving fire, or who prophesizes or works in potions, oils, herbs, and spellcraft, or who can communicate with the unseen.
God cannot validate these things and thus finds them 'detestable'. Because of this, God will remove these people. To not be removed you must stand with a clean slate unworthy of blame before God.

This bible passage is refering historicallyto wholly different practices in times. Modern new age spirituality essentially adopted much of these practices and transmuted them into positive tools to discover God in more ways than usual.
The Bible can be so interesting to read.

>>18292875
Develop on that. I'm interested.

File: e09f56550b42fbb10d1c40b837d2b7e5 (1).jpg (23KB, 396x600px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 396x600px

>>18292322
Who are you to say? You are no judge of me. That space is Reserved.

File: 1478011939922.jpg (984KB, 2560x1607px) Image search: [Google]

984KB, 2560x1607px

>>18292381
ROFL...and the GNOSTIC Bible isn't???? GTFO.

The Septuagint is probably the most copied ancient book in existence--backed up by the dead sea scrolls and older Hebrew texts. True the amount of cannon books changed (macabees in or out, for example), but the book was in far more common usage than that of a religion and belief system that was literally eradicated, only to be brought back by new ager loons like David Icke or Teal Swan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGWYLDs9uaU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wUhA3kW3Io

>>18293135
>the GNOSTIC Bible

To which books are you referring?

>>18293123
>Who are you to say?

I would ask you the same, but you have already furnished me with the answer.

> You are no judge of me.
Yet you are the judge of all, via divine right! Just one of the many perks of being some guy who posses a loose understanding of the bible.

>That space is Reserved.
For God or your some co-opted verse from the bible?

>>18293135
>GNOSTIC Bible isn't?
The what?

I am not a Gnostic, nor am I Jewish.

But those faiths along with your own came from the same place as mine.

>>18293135

The origin of the religion you follow is much older than the "dead sea scrolls".

But what does it even matter if the bible tells you it is all forbidden knowledge.