Psychic Soldier

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>>18230233
Sweet!

Just dump the whole thing somewhere and post a link senpai desu. Much easier

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In this example (like many others) the remote viewer was able to find the location that the target individual was looking at, and draw it with a degree of accuracy greatly exceeding chance (in this case it was a guard tower). The remote viewer in this example was able to perceive the target and the location they saw at a distance of over 30 miles (although distance does not seem to be a factor in regards to the degradation the capabilities of remote viewers).

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>>18230266
Most of it is crap like pic related, I've taken the time to delve through the crap to find a few gems. I will share my archive momentary though.

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>>18230276
In order to obtain an estimate of the resolution capability of the remote-viewing process, a subject was asked to render descriptions of objects hidden in small light-tight metal containers (35mm film cans) located 1/8 mile distant from the subject. The location of the object was known to the subject only as being on the person of an investigator outbound to an unknown site. During the experiment no investigator involved in the study knew the target, the target canisters have been previously prepared and randomized by an investigator outside the project.
A sequence of five trials were carried out, and the resulting subject transcripts and drawings were blind-matched to the targets by an independent judge with statistically significant results. This data indicates that the psychoenergetic channel functions with a spatial resolution down to at least the order of one millimeter.

>>18230313
these are the best he could do? i could probably do better

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>>18230313
Unrelated to ESP but just as interesting are cases of the US government abducting individuals and experimenting with various mind control substances on them, with varying degrees of success (I will be focusing this dump on military ESP abilities though so this will be the only post on this subject)

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>>18230340
Many branches and bureaus were involved but none as much as the CIA, as intelligence gathering was the main focus of many of the projects.

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Moar?

I'm thrilled by the concept of the gov. keeping up with these studies even after the "official" shutdown.
Any hints out there that they are?

I want to remoteview some cuties ass

Anything on time travel or Ayyys?

>>18230626
just watch porn, remote viewing is like 4fps

these are from that CIA document dump from this summer right? strikes me as outdated information, similar to all those UFO files they dumped. Ingo Swann-era- 'The Men Who Stare at Goats' by Jon Ronson is a good intro into this field of study.

Does anyone have an idea of what they've been up to in the last 20 years or so? These documents are from the 1970s so it makes me curious what the state of the art is nowadays.

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>>18230423
All conclusions show statistically significant results, and considering they had close to a dozen ongoing projects that used remote viewing I would say most certainly.
Here are a few examples of a remote viewer being told to identify what was drawn on a piece of paper inside a sealed envelope over 200 miles away. The results are intriguing.

>>18230316
alright hot shot

what's in my hand right now and was your mom's ass able to accommodate it

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>>18231051
I have documents up until about 1994, after that everything is a secret. The budget for these projects only increased year after year (up until they all apparently shutdown in 1994 according to the government).

>>18231051
of course it's outdated information, there are currently modern RV books and RV workshops

half the stuff posted on /x/ is recycled material from the 60s through 80s

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>>18231109
Besides remote viewing psychokinesis was also the subject of various government projects (not only in the US but also in China, the USSR, and various allied nations including Germany, Great Britain, and France (although their projects were much more limited)).

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really interesting, have a bump OP

Spooky shit. I saw that documentary about the soldiers there were pumped with LSD and other stuff, they're full of problems now in their old age. Sucks to be them

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>>18231135
Remote viewing was also used many times in hostage search projects with a large degree of success.

This is a great thread. Best I've seen in /x/ in awhile.

OP, you get a nice rump bump.

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>>18231152
>>18231289
I appreciate the bumps.
>>18231156
Yeah some of those after effects are completely debilitating, its pretty sad.

Heres a case of a remote viewer determining the location of a small submarine 500 miles away.

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>>18231981
At some point before 1991 a codebook with message-photo association was created and implemented on various occasions with special operations project personnel, usually using more than one remote viewer (who would have no contact during the remote viewing process) to implement a majority vote for results.

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>>18232004
Sorry that pic was from very early findings from the very early on in the Stargate project and from findings from previous projects and sub projects such as Grill Flame and Gondola Wish.
Here is a blurb about the results from a communication project that used the codebook in 1992.

>>18232016
MOAR

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>>18232016
I included the authors in this picture incase anyone wanted to look them up and see what theyre up to today. My documents only go as far as 1995, which is when the government says they were all shut down, despite the overwhelming success of many of these programs and the already made & detailed 5 year plan.
The following is an example of the progress of a branch of Psychokinesis called Anomalous Cognition (AC).

So, can we have a IRL Cobra Unit.

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>>18232065
As of May 1994 the US government had at least 389 active receivers.
A "stimulus window" was also discovered in the brain during AC sessions.

Bump a cool thread

What I don't understand about RV is this

How is the remote viewer supposed to know where the shit they're trying to view is? They get tasks like 'locate a submarine, see what's on an envelope 200 mi away"

Just wtf

>>18232789
They will either be given specific lat/long coordinates or told to focus on a target (this could be as simple as being given the targets full name or by being given a picture of the target)

OP, if you had access to current gov't information systems, what would you look up to find more on this time?

>>18232161
The US government was aware of many countries continuing their work well into the 90's on Remote Viewing (RV), Remote Action (RA), and Remote Sensing (RS). The US government also seemed surprised to find these countries were not working on the "healing" capabilities of ESP.

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>>18233286
"Healing" being defined as "The ability of an agent to cure illness or to influence positively the physical state of a biological form".

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>>18233216
Besides looking for the obvious reference of RV, RA, RS, ESP, PSI, or specific project names that deal with those things in the past such as Gondola Wish, Grill Flame, Stargate Project, various subprojects of MKultra, etc I would also look for references to psychokinesis or the Entropy experiment, along with any mentions SAIC or other government departments dedicated to this field of research. Unfortunately most if not all references to actual government personal who worked on these projects has been redacted, but many universities were also paid by the government to perform research on these topics, some of this information is readily available online or in the library archives of these universities. Looking to see if the government paid any of these universities for research on any of the above might point you in the right direction.

>>18233316
How do you personally explain the phenomena, based on what you read and your own conjecture?

Spirits?

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>>18233740
Remote viewing is like an out of body experience, ones center of consciousness seems to be in a spatial location separate from that of ones physical body. Detecting and utilizing remote viewing is not so different than how other sensory systems detect their particular inputs. Research in the 90's began to point to a new form of energy that could be detected during ESP sessions and they believed this energy could be responsible as the carrier of anomalous mental phenomena signals. I believe this is an ability everybody has but not everybody can interpret the signals correctly. Remote Action and other psychokinetic abilities work in similar ways although appear to be slightly more difficult to master (although any novice can effectively do it). A simple example of Remote Action (and one that was tested multiple times by various US government & Russian programs to be a real phenomena) is the feeling you get when you believe someone is looking at you. Here is an example of a few of these experiments and its affects it had on a targets properties of the skin (electrodermal response).
To summarize I believe it is an anomalous mental phenomena anyone can do and improve.

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>>18234846
Do replica soldiers have ESP abilities? Many special operations units have already utilized anomalous cognition in various ways, how common it is I couldnt say, but perhaps the people in this picture could tell you, it would be interesting to hear what they are all up to now.

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>>18234869
While all people may potentially have the ability to Remote View the success rate for first or even second attempts with individuals that have little to no knowledge/experience with the subject is rather low.
Also if you read any of this, and want me to continue please drop a bump, bumps make the thread a lot less lonely.

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>>18234869
>Do replica soldiers have ESP?
I was the one that made that shitpost, if I knew you replied to it, I wouldn't of deleted it.

I was referencing a video game series, in it, the Replica Soldiers are clones who are controlled by commanders with psychic abilities. Your post reminded me of them.

And here's a bump, you've got some interesting stuff here.

just a reminder russian psychotronics are much more advance than anything america did

>>18231078
>retarded face
>gets even more retarded

Op put it all in a .zip and post the link please

Or post where you got them from. Id love to have a read of these but simply dont have the time to lurk this thread

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>>18234831
Thanks. I'm attempting AP right now after reading all this.

Look what you've begun.... look what you've begun!

Just dump it all on mega or something

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Here are a couple files on RV to wet your appetite:
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7ve/Advanced-SRV-manual.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7vf/crv_docs_full.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7vg/SRVManualByCourtneyBrown.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7vh/TDS-aurora-bomb.pdf
A portion of my collection came from this rather large archive of files here: http://www.wanttoknow.info/mind_control/cia_mind_control_documents_orig/
Heres a good pastebin that can give you a brief overview of MKultra (where most of this ESP research began, although most of it is about mind control) http://pastebin.com/7eAgLUjs
I will continue to post and share

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>>18235704
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7vv/Rv_a_russian_document_test_1987.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7vw/SRI_1980_feasability_study_of_RV_to_detemine_military_targets.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7vz/SRI_1986_photon_detection_experiment.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNE/SRI_1986_suggested_Rv_training_procedure.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNG/SRI_1987_photon_rv_prouction_-_replication_experiment.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNI/SRI_1988_mass_screening_for_talent_using_an_RV_task.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNL/SRI_esperiments_for_hemolysis_cofrim_experiment_1987.pdf

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>>18235744
I uploaded them individually so you guys could more easily navigate through them and see which ones interest you and which you want to download. Unfortunately it seems ive reach the maximum number of files I can upload to mega for the day.
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNN/sri_crv_training_dec_1984_(2).pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNP/sri_crv_training_dec_1984.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNR/sri_letter_1980.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNU/SRI_progress_report_oct_dec1979.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNW/sri_rv_enhancement_evaluation1984.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNX/Summary_report_on_stargate_operational_taskings.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNY/Sun_Streak_Annual_report_1987.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovNZ/Sun_streak_slideshow_and_notes.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovO0/33SRI_reports.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovO1/1978_Gondola_Wish_Assesment_report.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovO2/1979_AMSAA_grill_flame_report.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/ovO3/1989_sun_streal_annual_report.pd
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7w0/1989_viewer_production_report.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7w1/1993_SRI_overview_of_free_world_PSI_research.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7w2/11222-Advanced-threat-technique-assessment.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7w4/an_informal_talk_by_Bob_wood_or_Rv_and_other_subjects.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7w5/an_interview_with_a_stargate_operational_tasker.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7w6/an_ingo_swann_pk_experiment.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7w7/CIA_1984.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7w8/CRV_technology_1981-83.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7w9/DIA_5yr_long_range_plan_for_Stargate_(after_1991).pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7wa/DIA_grill_flame_report_oct_1983.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7wb/DIA_stargate_slideshow_with_gulf_war_session_data.pdf

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>>18235751
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7wc/dia_1994_stargate_review_plan.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7we/DIA_psychoenergetics_research_1984.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7wf/DIA_remoteviewing_coding_experiment.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7wg/Ed_May_-_an_application_rv_experiment_1989.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7wh/Ed_May_1994_PSI_research_and_analysis.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7wj/Ed_may_SRI_1986_-_enhanced_human_performance_evaluation.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7wl/ED_May_SRI_1988_-_Forced_choice_remote_viewing.pdf
http://www.megafileupload.com/g7wm/Ed_May_5yr+plan_amp_program.pdf

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You're a saint. Great thread, OP

>>18230299
If you have no legal risks, dump it. You can get some help.

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>>18235044
I dont know about that. While its true the Russians had a head start on this type of stuff the sheer number of projects, the funding the US projects received, and the scope of these projects (along with their results) leads me to believe that by the early 80s the Americans had surpassed the Russians in psychokinetic abilities. Im sure this gap only grew over the years as more and more funding and projects were issued by the Americans.
>>18235031
Sounds interesting, and I would imagine not too far off from reality in some cases (besides the clone part, although I believe that technology is readily available to many governments).
>>18235216
It looks glorious.
>>18235852
Thank you, im glad /x/ is enjoying it. Its hard to compete with those "summon a succubus" threads.
>>18235857
I've looked through them all and picked out the good stuff, the rest is mostly all the financial pages and general program running discussion (normal business messages about papers, staplers, and staff) which I could upload later if that is of any interest (although most of it is heavily redacted).

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>>18235910
And while the Russians had a head start in implementing psychokinetic abilities in the field, the americans had been looking at using ESP in the intelligence field since the late 50s.

Bump can you post more drug testing ? And do you have any info on the finders cult?

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>>18235949
In this experiment, the subject (known only as SG1J but actually Pat Price, a retired police commissioner) was informed of the existence of a top secret Soviet military base at a place called Semipalatinsk “25 to 30 miles south west of the Irtysh River” in Siberia. It is inconceivable that he could have had any knowledge of such a secret installation by normal means and he was given only its map coordinates. Not only was it one of the Soviet Union’s most secret nuclear weapons centres, but it was also physically very remote, and some 10,000 miles away from the site of the experiments. On the right is the drawing Price made, on the left is the actual secret soviet crane. Price described it accurately as "A mobile gantry crane built on a huge scale — its wheels taller than a man. It's 150 feet tall and its railed tracks 50 feet apart."
This experiment was categorized as a failure in Remote Viewing as Price was asked to describe the perimeter around the crane but could not do so.

>>18235751
>megafileupload

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>>18236075
The finders cult is interesting and at the very least some of the members have ties to the CIA. I would go as far as to say that the government is/was directly involved with the finders cult. The purpose of abducting these kids could be endless (continued MKultra projects, drug testing, indoctrination testing, psychological tests, etc). Considering the case was turned over from the D.C metro police department (who were being told what to do by the FBI), to the FBI, then to the CIA as an internal matter and nothing ever came of it, you can be assured some connection between the CIA and the finders cult exists.

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>>18236075
>>18236126
Almost all of the research from the Artichoke program was on interrogation and the best means for it, ranging from pictures, to physical pain, to chemical cocktails designed to be truth serums. The ideal drug they were hoping to find was a tasteless, odorless liquid that could be easily administered into a drink. The desired affects were total cooperation as well as an afterwards amnesia like state. Many many tests were done on foreign citizens and operatives, some of whom were released afterwards. However if complete amnesia was not obtained in the individual than controlled disposal was mandatory.
Testing was also done on unknown US citizens and government employees, as well as various volunteers, many of whom still speak out about the after affects these programs have had on them to this day.

Can I get a tl;dr?

>>18236195
Psychics is real yo
Military tested, documented, verified, explored, enhanced, improved, then OOPS PROGRAM CLOSED LOLOL.

So it's safe to assume they're psyching you right now bro.

>>18236201
any instructions how to develop these skills in the papers tho? or just an overview?

bumperino

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>>18236261
they state the methodology for many of their experiments, so you can take from that and develop a training system of your own.

Of course, they did develop training methods, but only a fraction of material has actually been released.

>>18236324
thanks anon. the methodology seemed kinda vague, but i'll try to work with it. i'd love to see their training manuals and so on someday, wikileaks is the best chance atm

>>18235949
>>18235910
Nah, we were always ahead of the Russians, the Russians may have started in the 50's but with the help of the Germans we've already perfected it by then.

>>18236565
Russia started investigations into paranormal stuff at least during Stalin, before the 50s. But Germans started paranormal investigations under Hitler too

So who's the best military psychic ever was?

megafileupload sucks, even with a free signup i can only get one download per day and there's no unregistered link for these.

would it be possible to use mega.nz or something like that?

>>18230250
tfw ill never be a cia physic spy trained from childhood

Yo, is this legit? Seems like too much effort for a fake, but too nonchalantly and spontaneously presented to be real.

>>18230233
So you got a typewriter and this is how you waste your days?

>>18237787

Do you really want to know too much and be stuck with a hole in your shoulder?

People are terrified of things they can't explain.

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>>18236159
No ayys or time travel, but progress was made in precognition, as some remote viewing happened in real time while others where able to see things moments before they occurred (or days to months in specific cases, one of the more famous examples being the prediction of the soviet plan to launch secret sub 114 days later).
>>18236708
Most are classified or redacted, and while someone may be a good Remote viewer they may be terrible at other psychokinetic abilities. Price and Swann are however mentioned often to be some of the best remote viewers, but better ones did exist.
>>18237517
I'll see what I can do.
>>18238092
>>18238116
Its very real.

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>>18238354

>>18238354
>see what i can do

that would be awesome and most appreciated

>>18230233
Bump

Anything in the reports about government taking in suspected psychics into custody for tests and stuff?

I have been doing this for years (remote viewing). While in the Army I did before big missions. It actually saved my life a few times as I saw where a mortar would land or where an IED was placed. I watched myself die in my viewing, so right before the mortar landed i positioned myself about 10ft away (I had to be there for overwatch), mortar hit, I was wounded, but not dead.

I got better at it and tried to read the next days newspaper. I saw the Massachusetts daily number, and played it. I told my wife that I had a vision, haha. I hit the first 3 numbers the 4th was close. 9625 and it was 9626.

I've been lucid dreaming for a while now, its pretty awesome. Flying and sex with whomever seems to be my norm. But a few months ago i projected myself in space looking down at Earth in a weird place with orbs flying around. This giant being, who I have seen several times before (watching me) appeared. Glowing purple cloak and hood with bright yellow eyes (this same being asked me if I wanted to leave Earth when I was 13 or so in a lucid dream), anyways, it swatted me and in a crazy echoing deep voice said "You do not belong here". I woke up face down with my arms by my side, which is unusual for me, i could not move and felt lifeless. (I have experienced sleep paralysis hundreds of times, this was not it) I woke up my wife to ask if she saw anything, she didn't, then I couldn't sleep so stayed up. I'm 34 btw.

Any specifics on how to begin practicing this? Can it only be done while asleep, as a part of lucid dreaming? Practical techniques would be useful

>>18239825
Courtney Brown

get in contact with him. if you are in this thread, there's a reason.

>>18231163
No it wasnt. stop spouting bullshit

>>18239825
I learned unexpectedly when I was about 20. I got into meditating and smoking Weed. One day I got some really good stuff. I found that while laying on my back while breathing deeply I could move this different type of point energy you around my whole body, After about 30 minutes of this I focused it on my dick and came just from breathing and concentrating on the energy. I got good at it. When I turned 21 I started bareading hopping and clubbing and the alcohol made it near impossible to do anymore. Fast forward a few years, I got out of the army at 27 after having an awful 17 month combat tour and being wounded while dealing with the awful things I witnessed and the excitement and sadness of firefights I had awful ptsd and tbi. I cut out all booze and started meditating again . Sometimes I would fall asleep during meditating and boom lucid dreaming happened. I knew I was dreaming and had full control of my thoughts and actions. I can only explain it as free lay in a game like GTA, but real life. I could fly, read, fuck, breath under water at will. Similar to the girl in divergent and how she knew she was dreaming. I was amazed at their accuracy. Ithe was addicting cont.

>>18235704
>>18235744

Won't download anything for shit. Not working.

Upload somewhere else if you want to share - because right now you aren't.

Bumps anyways, good reads in the image posts.

>>18239793
Can you explore in words how you go into "RV" sessions?

>>18239842
Courtney Brown is a joke, Hitler was right.

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>>18238548
>>18240544
Here is the same material except uploaded to mega. It contains most of the good information related to Remote Viewing specifically, but other ESP phenomenon as well.
https://mega.nz/#F!mVxEyYIS!FRT8qMZys9kdmdjWuUv3Tg
I am going to organize some other documents I have on the subject and upload them to another file soon. All of my this consists only of government documents.
>>18239669
Yes many volunteers from around the country and even the world who claimed to be able to Remote View were brought in for various studies.

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>>18240753
Thanks, OP!

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>>18240753
Thank you very much OP! I will send you the protection of astral orangutan.

>>18240570
I honestly can't, once you're lucid you really have to fight the urge to have sex. The handful of times I have RV I think before bed my wife and I have had sex or I snapped one out. It's really rolling the dice. I get excited when lucidity happens and sometimes that is enough to ruin the experience. RV is very difficult for me because of life habits. I wish I got paid to focus on it, because I feel, as a patriot, it could be an incredible asset for the United States and for wealth accumulation.

>>18230233
So how do you think they gain the ESP abilities?

>Gift from God
>Covenants with deities
>Gift from the Devil
>Spirits

?

>>18240753

Thanks OP, I really like reading this stuff x)

>>18240576

Actually, Courtney Brown's manual gives me the creeps... what is this soul & subspace mumbo-jumbo?!

I've read it before, too. Something tells me there's a lot of bullshit blended into that manual.

It rings phony.

i will not indulge those who think me crazy and to somewhat keep my anonymity i will not go into detail or just how i know. but i can confirm government agencies are able to access the plane(the level of brain activity involved in ESP), i cant say what governments, agencies or other bodies may be involved nor will i share just how they do this, but they have means outside of psychics to do it now. a new era of population has been rolled out and 99% of people a 100% unaware due to advances in technology.
goodnight and sweat dreams

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>>18241451
le mysterious knowledg poster

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Thanks op. A fascinating thread, beats the usual shite on here. I didn't take any of this seriously, but seeing the paperwork, people involved the scope of the institutions involved, it seems very credible.
Bump.

>>18241624

U know, I always wonder whether the content of one of the obligatory redacted-out paragraphs is something that boils down to:

"The entirety of this document is fictional and fabricated for disinformation purposes"

But then, if it is, the case could be argued that I remote-viewed it.

BAM, ur head asplode.

In any case, I actually buy the bike: All those great mounds of paperwork kinda feel legit. But the civilian manuals and whatnot always have that pungent whiff... like bullshit-smeared window dressing.

>>18241645
"Any connection to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental"

It was the agency papers and the scientific studies that had me intrigued.
Heres a study op showed a bit of. Its no joke

http://www.lfr.org/lfr/csl/library/ShannonEntropy1.pdfhttp://www.lfr.org/lfr/csl/library/ShannonEntropy1.pdf

Yeah guys like Courtney Brown seem like bad salesmen or disinfo dudes. They reek of charlatanism.

>>18241845

Yep, the parts about blind protocols sound like decent methodology.

The "agencies funded application, not basic research" part also makes sense in itself and makes sense OF the phenomenon being (apparently?) poorly understood

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>>18240753
https://mega.nz/#F!jV5ySbSa!cs7fkYVpq1F25fLjzWAY1g
Here is over 100 more government documents related to Remote Viewing and similar psychokinetic phenomena (remote sensing, remote action, etc). I have several more documents on the subject as well as many government training sessions on remote viewing. I will see if I can compile the training sessions together in another file if that interests anyone.

>>18241219
I believe it is an ability all humans have, although it takes a good deal of training to do in most cases.
>>18241624
I didnt believe in any of this before I started reading the hundreds of government documents on the subject. Its still fairly mind boggling.

>>18241865
I think the reason I misunderstood before seeing this stuff was because all the civilian handbook new age crap you mentioned earlier. It's pretty easy to dismiss it seeing that stuff. Also Jon Ronson's book doesn't explore this side much (If i remember rightly), focusing more on the new age hippy angle. But op's papers showed well funded and structured testing.

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>>18241887
Well i'm on the wagon with you op. I gave it no credence before reading this stuff, now i'm inclined to believe it's real. Christ knows where they are today! After it was 'shut down' in the 90's, how many billions of the black budget went into this area I wonder?

I'll grab anything you got op, again great post. Appreciate the info

Within two years we should be able to have a working, open-source RV protocol.

IF its not disinfo and IF we actually got off our asses to actually do it, which we aren't going to do.

>>18241969
Two big IFS. And i have no faith in myself regarding the second one!

>>18241993

Neither do I.

In any event, the bar for believability and lack of bullshit in civilian RV seems to be set really low, so it wouldn't be too hard to kick the charlatans in the teeth.

If, if, if, if, if.

>>18240753
Volunteers, huh?
I guess all those psychics scared of being kidnapped for tests are scared over nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnbeGpjpKgY

>>18242001
That is true, the difference between the two is fucking vast, and quite comical. Makes me think they're still on the payroll.
What you suggest is plausible, for people clever enough, (not me). And I could imagine certain persons not taking too kindly to people trying to create an open source, legit, civ alternative.

>>18242734

Spot on everything, I suspect mostly the same.

Beyond the baseline interpretations of "engineered disinfo" or "common charlatans", a couple juicier alternatives spring easily to mind:

1) Civilian RV joints are an outsourced screening program in full cooperation with serious RV programs. This is probably coherent with screening procedures alluded to in the documents. The bullshit is part of the screening - only those dead set on developing RV, or which already developed it spontaneously or on their own, will be willing to put up with the bullshit window dressing, to eventually be shunted into serious programs OR discouraged from using their knowledge for... "hairy" purposes, just as anybody else with security-valuable skills is.

In fact, the amount of bullshit could double up as a character test to see if potential operatives are willing to put up with official secrecy, authoritarianism and misinformation - willingness to act without full knowledge or *with* the knowledge that you're being bullshitted but assuming it's part of your work.

2) Civilian RV joints are partly independent, partly in cooperation with serious RV programs. They're allowed to continue because they build upon flawed bases / erroneous principles, and as such can't catch up with the serious programs because by definition they work with the breadcrumbs the SRS BSNS progams purposefully drops. Serious programs still capable of sifting their ranks for potential operatives, thanks to connections between serious and civilian RV initiatives.

>>18242838
That is a bloody interesting take on it, a public face that holds no credibility whose proponents say i talked with jesus through RV. Quietly screening through talented candidates, while discrediting the notion of it. I like that.

>>18241451
Selfish

>>18243273

Thanks.

The idea popped into mind suddenly, but I did go through it a couple of times to make sure it was relatively sound.

CIA-RDP96-00787R000300090001-1

"Experimental protocol for hemolysis: Confirmation Experiment"

Jessica M. Utts, currently a statistician at UC Irvine.

G. Scott Hubbard - Guys had his fingers in a lot of pies. Aerospace, NASA, and astrobiology related stuff.

William W Braud - Experiment psychologist. Currently dead.

Hmm.... Interesting stuff here. There are some things that set off my bullshit detector. They used T-statistics, not Z-statistics, despite having a large enough sample size for the Z. They might have a legitimate reason for that, but they don't explain it, and I'm not a stat geek.

I'll need to look this over with a fine tooth comb before making a judgement on how sound it is.... But this and the 1990 replication experiment are disturbing none the less.

>>18244045

Elaborate, I haven't gone through it all and have zero notions about statistics.

Esp. on:

-1990 experiment
-conceptual distinction between T and Z
-Does it state any results about such hemolysis experiment?

>>18241969
Just a thought:
Remove viewing is a very old tech.
And I mean at least as old as writing.
The techniques are all well known and easy to find if you don't mind spending a few hours on google and downloading some books that are either public domain or easy to find a PDF for.

The thing that is just as readily available but not quite that easy to grasp is the initiation required to enable you to unlock these techs.

There are gifted people for ESP, just as there are gifted people for singing, but anyone can train ESP the same way we train other skills.

I would even go as far as to say I would bet the spooks unlocked part of the RV tech by sheer brute-force, but still lack a more deep understanding, limiting their potential (like discovering electricity and never going beyond a simple light bulb).

I could be dead wrong, but reading a lot from unconventional sources gives me unconventional opinions.

>>18244052

Full disclosure, I haven't found the second paper yet. Looks like Braud reran the protocol, I'm assuming due to criticism of the original publication. This is it: (1990) Distant mental influence of rate of hemolysis of human red blood cells. Journal of the America Society for Psychical Research. vol 84.
CIA-RDP96-00789R002200620001-9

From my understanding, T statistics are using a different standard normal to compare variation against. They are typically used for smaller sample sizes(less than around 30). Z statistics are usually used for samples of around 30 or above, this experiment had 32 test subjects. It doesn't invalidate their findings, it could be something as simple as them wanting to make the effect appear larger. A big no no, but I would need to sit there and calculate the z-score for their data to see, and I'm not exactly sure where or even if it is in the document.

The results would indicate that the patients were able to exert 'mental influence' to protect the blood in the tubes from being destroyed by the hemolysis.

The implications of that, are pretty terrible.

>>18244095

I agree with you for the most part... still in the post you're replying to and subsequent ones I put the emphasis on lack of bullshit and open-source or similar (i.e. not structured around a guru/master)

What intrigues me is this:

>The thing that is just as readily available but not quite that easy to grasp is the initiation required to enable you to unlock these techs.

What are you referring to?

Also agreeing on the bruteforcing, but that's kind of a good approach if you want to build a corpus of data, I think.

>>18244142
Very interesting, and thanks for the statistics explanation, even if I can only grok it partially.

Tinkering with results or the way results are presented in papers is unfortunately quite a common occurrence

>terrible implications of hemolysis prevention

?

You say hemolysis *prevention*. That doesn't sound very terrible, unless the human body has a baseline hemolysis rate and lowering it causes problems derived from... buildup of red cells? Absolutely not knowledgeable on the subject.

>>18244144
The problem is that this is a technology that peaked in use and development and was lost a long time a go. That is the reason why you won't always have a source that aligns to your worldview and opinions on what is real or not.

If you spend some time reading history and how corrupted that science has become, it is not hard to believe that pretty much everything we have assumed from ancient civilisations is wrong and biased. Humanity is not at all at the cutting edge of knowledge and technology when it comes to understand consciousness.

Now if the religious, philosophical, or spiritual doctrine that preserved this tech is your cup of tea or not, it does not matter. Science was made, observation, tests, repetition. That was the way this knowledge was encoded culturally and it was the most efficient way back then. Most of the ways we have today of transmitting knowledge like books were very rare and expensive, even a few centuries back.

What I mean by initiation for unlocking the techs is just that: at least having a primer on the requisites for that knowledge. Imagine an old farmer that barely know how to read and never went to a school. You can dump the best books on the subject of basic physics or chemistry on him, he won't get it. He lacks initiation (in that case, some formal or high school education). Of course a few of those "farmers" would get it and become a great scientist from scratch, but that is rare.

I believe the approach of brute-forcing is fine, but there are some fundamental changes needed in the worldview of all of us to really make that technology as accessible to everyone as basic chemistry is. Unfortunately that is going to be a pain for the majority, specially for the scientific community.

>>18244183
One of the control factors they implemented here was the experimenters were blind to the results until they were decoded, to prevent them from unknowingly altering them with their own 'psi-effect'.

If it's possible for the experimenter to interfere with his own experiment just with his own thoughts, a lot of science gets chucked straight out the window. And replication studies are not very common, we could be using tons of bad data, teaching it in schools, etc.

There is also nothing really to suggest that people could not exert influence over each other with this effect. Whether that be, protecting another persons cells, or something like spontaneously giving them cancer.

It's also worth noting I think I see why they used T statistics, they separated the subjects into two groups. One of 14 people, and one of 18 people(apparently one of their nurses screwed up labeling on some tubes). So.... Now I don't know, looks more legit.

OP, i want to believe this is real, but that skeptic part of me needs time to read all of this. But, tell us, are you trained on RV?

>>18244186
Yes, I'm following you.

>Now if the religious, philosophical, or spiritual doctrine that preserved this tech is your cup of tea or not, it does not matter.

Of course it doesn't matter. And yes, it seems evident that practices related to RV are scattered throughout pre-scientific (as in the modern understanding of the term) sources.

But bullshit-laced RV stuff doesn't feel like it belongs to any tradition, or like it seriously drinks from old sources.

It just feels like a commercial blend of late 20th century new-age-ism and part of the serious RV material.

Ancient tidbits of knowledge -> military extraction of operative and scientific facts -> re-hashing with current spiritualist trends

When you're refining metal from ore, you don't pour the sludge back into the yield.

There's solid mysticism, and there's two-cents quackery.

>>18244269
>One of the control factors they implemented NOT PRESENT IN THE PILOT STUDY.

Sorry, forgot that part. In the pilot study they got the results you would expect, apparently.

>>18244269
Oh, okay, you meant wider implications, rather than implications of the particular phenomenon researched in the experiment. Yes, quite.

Is the document you're perusing in this thread's uploads? If not, can you provide a link?

>Experimenter thought interference and science imploding

That would be incredibly funny. And yet, and yet, thousands of new theories, new papers, new applications are invented every day in Dorset alone.

Sorry, what I mean is: It would be a hard blow for current protocols and paradigms, but it wouldn't /kill/ science. It'd have to be both protected against with stricter protocols, and allowed to fit in as new methods for probing, data acquisition and alteration of minute systems.

Nice posts anon, nice posts. Keep it up.

>>18244334

Sorry ma bhutanese carpenter, but what do you exactly mean with "the results you would expect" in such a matter as we're discussing, lol?!

>>18244354
It would deal a really horrible blow to my field, Biology. We don't assume experimenters could have latent psychic abilities that interfere with our results.

It should be in the uploads, but if you can't get it just pop CIA-RDP96-00787R000300090001-1 or the one for the second study into google it would bring you to archive sites that have the documents.

>>18244369
What you would expect from random chance alone.

>>18244392

Well, we don't know about the STRENGTH of the effects. Untrained, unintentional effects might lie within some acceptable threshold and become just another source of errors. Rabbits won't become mice...

Even if influence on hemolysis is actually proven; hemolysis still happens, surely via the same mechanisms it usually works through, whatever they are, if you cared/were actually able to check it via microscope. What changes is probably the actual rate of the phenomenon over time.

But then again, I'm no scientist, so I defer to your judgement in this matter.

>>18244418

Roger, just wanted it explicitly stated.

Yeah, kinda scary.

>>18230276
This is in line with the theory that consciousness is projected outward like a magnetic field.

>>18244785
Except it DOESN'T seem to be affected by space or time regarding some properties

The CIA files say that in the 90s they discovered some type of energy that affected how well objects could be sensed through remote viewing. Apparently this was a huge breakthrough. Any other info on this "energy" they discovered?

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OP back?

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Bmp op

Bump this is some interesting stuff. Also if there are any remote viewers what am i sat next to?

>>18246288
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_yaQTR3KHI

Any confirmation that all of this actually comes from the US government, or any government at all?

>>18246968
Not all of it is from the CIA, but a good portion of it is. I believe some was outsourced to labs and universities, which is why the format changes. I believe these documents were released based on two or three FOIA requests from 1996 to 2002.

this is nothign new if you listened to art bell in the 90s he always had this guy on who was a major in the remote viewing program

he was always going on about shit that never happend and he tried to create a company to train remote viewers and have companies hire the viewers to problem solve and give intel

cant remember his name but his nick name art gave him was dr doom

i never had a doubt in my mind that he wasn't actually in the army and apart of a remote viewing program

but the shit he would talk about made no sense and you could very quickly get the gist that he no longer worked for the army for a reason

the point im making is this:

the movie men who stare at goats is probably accurate as fuck, in the movie a bunch of hippies go into the army psychic program and all fucking do nothing cause they're idiots except one guy who has actual power

the one guy or two guys they get in the program that can produce actionable intelligence never left the army, they shut down the program and fired all the yahoos and didnt care if they talked cause they wern't credible

long story short the army wants people with abilities, but heres the thing you gotta somehow be rooted in this reality and not off in schizo land which is rare

so they may have all these documents on remote viewing btu the techniques to teach someone how to do this are moot, your born with it or you somehow rise to actualization through a unique life.

the idea that you can train a layman to spy on soviety missile silos is a big grandious and if it were that easy why isn't this a thing?

>>18247266
>nothing new
Nobody really implied it is, subject's been known for long time, except for maybe some disclosed documents.

>dr doom, gotta be rooted in this reality and not off in schizo land, credibility, yahoos

This is true for anything, and all throughout the thread we've been griping because of the high bullshit quotient of alleged commercial RV venues

> to teach someone how to do this are moot, your born with it or you somehow rise to actualization through a unique life.

This is at least one, most likely two or three hypothesis strung together which merit investigation

You're mixing interest in application with interest in research, but in any case you're raising little contention, your points are agreeable but they don't shut down the interest of the subject at hand.

Why are some lines covered up by black bars?

>>18247614
Lines are redacted to protect the identities of those involved, ongoing operations, or information still deemed too sensitive for the public.

b a m p u

bump just in case the green magic shill knocks it off ;)

f a s c i n a t i n g

>>18230248
>bit rate
kek

>>18235949
>And while the Russians had a head start in implementing psychokinetic abilities in the field, the americans had been looking at using ESP in the intelligence field since the late 50s.
What do you think/know about Robert Monroe and his institute? They have programs for people to discover shit and they make hemisync tapes with binaural stuff. They also made a bunch of experiments and as far as I know the military sent over personnel to them.

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>>18230233
The real question is, how do I get such powers?
(I had an out of body experience when I was 4. Do I have psychic potential? )

>>18251249
Bump

>>18230233
How do I obtain these telekinetic abilities?
Does one have to be like 11 from stranger things

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>>18254132
Dick

>>18254876

Loser

>>18230233 for the noobs this esp stuff
So um if you guys want to do somthing esp like right now take 3 cards and place your hand just above them without touching them set the objective as high/low/middle and determine what numbers cards are beforehand shuffle the deck place down the cards push you gut out and relax it like that lean forward to where your head would be in a looking just a bit upward anyways you want to focus on the feeling in your hand as you hover over each card and target that same feeling every time you do this once you have gotten the desired outcome if you cant feel the energys at all learn to feel your body each card should feel diffrent make sure there are no diffrences in design on the face down cards and thats basicly how to start with some basic stuff after a short amount of time doing this it should be easy enough to just look at the cards and know what to choose.
thats where i think i started in this world unless my half dreams were real that they may have been if so then levitation was the first thing i did maybe.

>>18255290
Oh and one more thing dont be wastefull with your energy unless you want to get put to sleep in like an hour or three.

>>18255290
>>18255296
And if your wondering how this is usefull in daily life it functions with every decision with everything so long as they are laid out before you even if blind if you can sense it you can select it and will always choose the correct way to get whatever the objective is so long as its attainable that is Oh btw if your infected with chemtrail and all that jazz this will not work for you cause chemtrails force people to be drawn to wrong decisions and even when you can sense it with chemtrail stuff in you it becomes a bit of an effort resisting the nano and all that stuff and you will get tired much faster and if you get tired you might not be able to focus enough.

Please post a link to a collation of the training methods please

>>18232065
Holy shit!

>>18256229
its's honestly not that bad once youve had them use it on you enough it youll understand all that they can use and it will become ineffective and very much useless.

>>18241969
I can help, I have a theory about how the methodology is best suited for regular people because I basically had near immediate success with remote viewing. I would take note of how clinical all the analysis is in these papers, there is absolutely not posturing about the physics of it, which would be important to maintain. Anyone who tries to shill there idiotic theories about "sub-space" and other bullshit like that needs to maintain a clinical distance. Of course this shit involves quantum physics if it exists, but the physics involved would be so complex and nuanced compared to our current knowledge that there is no use in theorizing about how it works.

Bump, downloading the two archives now. Splendid collection, thank you OP.

>>18242090
>mummys remote viewing and nibiru in a keys show

REALLY MAKES U THINK

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>>18230233
OP, You're awesome! Sending you some good feels remotely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l6VPpDublg

Michael Persinger on RV and magnetic field of the Earth and how its disturbance can affect RV.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Persinger