Monarch Mind Control General

Also ask questions if you have any and I'll do my best to either answer or refer you to somebody who can

more resources
programmers and handlers how they do what they do
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3032038/pg1
a thread about DID
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3200794/pg1
the montauk project
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_filadelfia_4.htm
hyperdimensional warfare
http://montalk.net/matrix/67/the-art-of-hyper-dimensional-war
movies on mind control
http://www.standbyformindcontrol.com/all-movies-on-mind-control/

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/oz.htm

>>18168455
>http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2945015/pg

you'd have to be an idiot not to realize this guy is a fake

>>18168703
He has quite a lot of detailed info. I would give it a chance and read it a bit before dismissing it offhand.

>>18168723
All you have to do is read the first two pages, it's clear from the way he talks and volunteers info like how he's "lurked here for so long" that he's trying to protect himself from being revealed as a conspiracy buff like the rest of you shmucks.

>>18168739
That's just a classic thing that people do when they're lying to you, volunteer info that can later be used as an alibi against a possible attack on your credibility. How he says he'll only give one hint about the identity of his supposed asset and then when no one has taken the bait only a page later he gives another one, and do you seriously think that someone in his supposed position would sound so similar to the quacks that he's discoursing with, or would even be interested in doing so.

Grew up in that shit. Would welcome contact information for researchers doing serious efforts to activate alters in a controlled civilian environment

>>18168745
He tells the person who guesses right who she is.
>>18168739
>trying to protect himself from being a conspiracy buff...
Mind control is real though. Have you studied psychology at all? If you think it stopped at MK Ultra, which by the way was officially declassified, you're the naive one.

>>18168745
Also, he reveals information that, even if he was making it up, would be incredibly interesting, because anybody who was not intimately familiar with psychology would be able to talk the way that he does about psychology.

I have a very developed knowledge of how the neurology goes for the functioning of the multiple identity structures simply as a result of having memories from the perspective of the non active consciousness during some training/conditioning exercises

>>18168759
Would you care to share with us? I am very interested in what you have to say.

>>18168763
Gotta work but I'll be able to post stuff this evening

>>18168769
Awesome, thanks , lookin forward to it.

Driving to job site now..
If you are good at research and can find a list of cia personnel captured in Afghanistan by the Russians during the 1980s I can show you the guy that drove me to have my consciousness partioned in Germany in 1973

Accused of being CIA by the russkies I meant

>>18168455
Not much we can do about the threads dying.

You can't expect people to read.

Thanks for the links, very interesting stuff.

>>18168759
I'm waiting for this.

LEAKED: MK ULTRA Programming Film
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jW3yaNjIY4I

This is real. Takes some explaining though. People assume lots of things about how it is used but much of the guessing is in error.

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>>18169363
Operation wandering soul.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wandering_Soul_(Vietnam_War)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d9H_1ygEv8

Given the proper enviroment all this things work.

I think this a great example of this techniques on modern use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

>>18169363
What do you think it means?

>>18168455
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-24/five-killed-washington-state-mall-manhunt-gunman-continues
I'm gonna take this chance to push my theory that this is classic 'ManchuRian Candidate' op. Many personal friends went to school with the shooter, and he fits the profile perfectly, down to his "zombie-like" behavior.

>>18168904
Bumping

>>18168455
could that be related to hilary climpton weird acts lately ?

I wanna talk about civilian sleeper agents. People who don't even know something is up. Things like that.

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>>18170263
These two go hand in hand

This comes from Jos (see illuminati handler threads)

"Function Assets are subjects imparted with a specific set of 'functions' to perform, usually in a haze/daze/dissociative state. Post 'event', these assets will suffer amnesia and fleeting dissociation as amnesia is built into this 'single trigger function' to forget the event, the trigger, and the functions. However they may still experience sporadic moments of amnesia and dissociation if they encounter things similar to the conditions encountered during the event. For example: The subject has been programmed to kill Mr. X. Mr X.'s office is in a theme park where he sits in his office and smokes cigars. Post event, the asset may encounter amnesia and dissociation at theme parks or when they smell cigars.

Alter Assets are just as they sound: assets intended for multiple, prolonged outcomes where an alternate personality is implanted and activated via trigger. Obviously these are usually needed for social interaction functions.
Now, keep in mind that the last 'sleeper' anything I was a part of was in the Navy and keeping tabs on subjects was easy as it was handled in-house and with far less covertness than would be needed for a civilian asset. However, I know that civilian assets are almost always programmed by a programming team and it is that team's responsibility to check in on the asset both pre and post-event. This can be done mechanically most of the time, observing outward behavior or via suggestive social media like the personality tests we discussed. It's generally not necessary (or cost effective) to implant a team member as a coworker or false relationship unless the asset is ultra high priority. Even with that, post-event I can't imagine they'd do this just for the sake of making sure the asset's memory block was still trustworthy."

>>18168455
sentimentalcorp.org
Do with it what you will.

>>18171020
>sentimentalcorp.org
whoa, interesting, thank you

>>18171251
Trust me when i say this though its a good way to ruin yourself as you know it only use it if your fine with that.

>>18171264
I will keep that in mind before I venture into it

>>18171264

Dude sentimentalcorp is just a fucking art project by randy prozac or whatever.

>>18171315
yea but when i first started listening to it litirally physicly injured my brain and destroyed my personality and i couldnt feel anything but that one emotion for weeks months and now when i listen to it i feel nothing at all so eh :l

They don't need to become a constant presence in your life. They only need time enough to reach certain goals in the conditioning.
I can say I did have the memories from the time of the events on to the present. What I did not have was a rational understanding of the memories and until someone point blank asked me if I had been involved in these programs. At the time it was less than 2 months before the 9/11 event in New York and I had just recently turned 33. So as the rest of the country was in shock at the event I was calmly coming to understand why I had always had such a grasp on the orchestrations of the hidden intelligence communities. Within a few months I had sorted it out and went to speak with my dad about it.
The conversation went like this;
”who was that family member that stayed with us in Germany? " (I had thought for years it was my dad's youngest sister and her husband)
He said ” that was no family member.. He was a friend of mine "
(During the 7 years I was there we had only this one couple stay with us for a week)
I said " well he was probably CIA "
Was kind of funny watching him figure it out as he said " he wasn't CIA.. He was a journalist.. .. Well the Russians said he was CIA when they captured him in Afghanistan.. But naw.. He was a journalist. ..that was why he would find me jobs while I was in Vietnam. " (plausible deniability type jobs ..and by the time he said it the truth was taking root)
He was an advisor in Vietnam months before the gulf of Tonkin event and tet of 65 and was there as I was born three years later

I'm trying to put this in perspective as to how these memories figure in. There was no format for coming to understand them but it is completely in error to claim them as false. The False Memory Society is taksed with the discrediting of anyone who remembers.

But I remember.. I always did.

>>18170246
It's a tool for embedding concepts deep in the mind. Knowing how it works from personal experience makes me a bit long on words when I explain it.
I'm about to have to go back to work though. Worked late yesterday then hit the gym on the way home and fell asleep worn out.
If the thread is still alive I will give details.
This was me also btw >>18168751

>>18170578
I had not refreshed the page when I posted that.. Nice contribution. I hope you are on when I'm home from work vthis evening. I'm able to describe my own experiences.

The detail that I would like to go into would likely require a book and not simply a few posts here on /x/

If you bothered to examine closely, that video has five images flashed for about a quarter second each. Under the effects of the powerful mind enhancing drugs used this is a thing that can not be ignored or missed through inattention. The presentation is in an environment of sensory deprivation other than that video. In my case it was an old school film projector but the images were similar. I have deducted some of the images used in mine; just as Alice is a primary figure in this girls film Felix the cat is a primary identity concept used with sub-order structures based on secret squirrel, James Bond, the "eye of god", and who knows what else? I'm left guessing myself.. but I recall the evening they did this.
Obviously my parents were unaware.. but with my dad being active duty it was all too easy for them to remove them from the equation with any simple dinner function. The readily available 13yr old babysitter from across the hall was an experienced operative. I know this from her physical motion while containing one of my older brothers. Left to attend us, we played tabletop board games until a knock at the door. I remember play by play details of these. As we were gathered together one brother tried to hide behind a table but she moved toward him dropping low as if the table was no obstacle immobilising him with supreme ease.
We lived in military housing in Manheim at the time. Under each building was a basement with a storage room for each housing unit above and a laundry room and another sealed area equal in size to this laundry room but never opened.
My dad was the building manager too so we had a box with all keys but I had never been inside

For all my years prior to awakening to truth my honest effort to describe the events of that night would have included mention of returning upstairs from the basement and that "and then, all the clocks melted"

>>18168455
I've always been very interested in the perspective of the people on the other end of the spectrum. It was helpful to read this "jos" guy's experience as a handler. Even though he did a little bit of his job on you, if you weren't aware. And he certainly understands that there is a spiritual aspect to this, that's why he is so sensitive to it discussing it. That's the part that gets you into the most trouble.

>>18175016
That's really the irony of it all. In order to be a functioning programmer/handler you're basically forced to put up blocks in your own mind in order to do your job effectively and without bias. The people creating these slaves are forced to make the same decisions they force the slaves to make. Go figure.

>>18171325
that's the process of your mind and sub mind becoming closer

It looks like the people that got this thread started are not around.. but to continue with the main point;
As an example of how deep seated these images carried influence in later years the first email account I opened in the 1990s was cautiously named "felixohnewort"
I was always cautious of the overseers and this name was chosen as a sort of appeasement to them.. While on one level I had no rational justification to consider that "they" even existed, I had throughout my life spoken of them. Even at 7 years of age I had cautiously chosen where and when I asked one of my brothers "did they had ever taken you to that wearhouse or toy store up in the mountains?"
I was referring to this stuff even then. Caution was a key point. Even at an early age I had been exposed to a lot. As I understand it, the age of 7 is too old for participation in these programs. Two weeks after I turned 7 my family returned to the United States. At that age my idea of "sexual fantasy" involved simply closing my eyes and replaying images that I could visualize right down to the detail of holes in the film edge (old school projector.)
I had lots of experiences that I remembered that are worth mentioning. Too much detail to comfortably fit into a few lines posted here.

The point that got me started though was what it looks like from the conscious perspective of the inactive or subverted "primary non-alter identity" Simply a few memories.. Clearly not dream but oddly not real. I saw myself in the branches of a tree beside a building sort of waiting. The tree had no leaves and structure similar to a crepe myrtle. The odd thing was there was no sky and no ground.. just an empty field of a sort of yellow.. like trying to look into the too bright sunny sky. There was someone in that building and I was waiting on him trying to see through the windowed side of the building. In my efforts to understand I now believe that tree was my physical body.

>>18175095
So, long story short, you are a victim of this, and from your understanding, you were selected for it. And you've been subjected to it since you were a kid.

>>18175144
Basically, yeah. Whether we acknowledge it or not. But who will help us?

I only once managed to activate it. It helps to explain that I had lots of concepts in my mind about space and dimensions and consciousness that I thought were my own intellectual discoveries and inventions. In a highly stressed condition I had many of these ideas on my mind. I was pondering how a certain type of dimensional being was so able to obscure itself and I spotted a location where I imagined a being of its type would hide if stuck in the midst of such a populated area. It was a small tree with good ground coverage from it's lower branches. I simply walked up to it and lifted a low branch and pulled off a tightly and extremely efficiently packed military backpack (which I was not physically wearing.. No explanation for where it came from but even now as I write this the memory of it as being physically real is as tangible as any other aspect recalled)
I quickly swung the pack off placing it under the tree and then watched my body walking away from the perspective of under those branches. I don't know how long I was not the driver of this body but I do recall the moment I reawoke. I was sitting in the back seat of a federal marshals car and as the one in the passenger seat showed his badge (an 11 pointed star) I became aware ..as if nothing had happened.

Can you imagine how fucked up it would be to come out of that into the care of some foreign hostile entity? Like that one girl in Peru did..
I'm convinced now that it(my alternate neurological identity structure) has a lot of military training under its belt but I personally have none or almost none if you include private martial arts classes etc.

>>18175115
I would never use the word victim to describe participating in these programs. I feel strongly that these people invited me to taste reality in a way that will be so inaccessible to the untrained. A particular focus of my conditioning was development of cognitive aptitudes (i.e. psychic and perceptual abilities) and this is probably a major aspect of why I was considered for involvement. My father had been evaluated as being psychic, not by our military but by the North Vietnamese general who had conducted numerous operations with him as the primary target

>>18175245
So in other words, if I'm not mistaken, you have nothing to offer this thread. Forgive me if I'm wrong. But keep up the good work little buddy.

>>18175016
>even if he did a bit of his job on you, in case you weren't aware
...do you really think so? I am glad you found it helpful.

>>18175205
Have you heard of the montauk program?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_filadelfia_4.htm

>>18175345
Well, take into consideration the work he does for a living. It revolves around deception and disinfo. And this is why I say that even programmers/handlers are programmed in such a way that even they aren't aware of it. He explained to you his job as a handler as a handler would explain in it. No doubt, there are things he simply cannot say. So clearly there is a level of control on him, if not more so than those being controlled by him. And while his intentions are good, he tends to say things that are programed into him. It's a viscous cycle indeed

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https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Weapons-Sisters-Terrifying-Sabotage/dp/0882821962

I knew several kids who were much more involved than myself. Always felt like I was on standby but some of them saw lots of use. The fact that one girl had told me some details that later came out in this book was key to my realization. I had loaned a copy of this book to someone and upon returning it they asked " is this what you are? "
I had intended to answer by saying " l don't see how I could be "
But I instead said " I don't see how (long awkward pause) I could be "
It was as I tried to understand what had happened in my mind to cause that pause that the pieces began to fit together.

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>>18175355
Haven't read up on it but yeah familiar with the name at least

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>>18175340
Sure thing Skipper

>>18175412
But in all reality, it isn't that big of realization. Anyone who is actually subjected to this tends to figure out that something is wrong, and for those who realize it is not in their head tend to keep their mouths shut. I may be an exception. But I have no fucking clue what you're going on about throughout your posts. I simply can't relate I guess.

>>18175423
And what makes you think that people can be so easily placed into one of two categories? It seems that people who think they are helping people are actually doing the opposite, and those are the people who need help. And the people who want to help people are regarded as people who need help. It's definitely a strange (backwards) world

>>18175433
Try getting close to any person with multiple personality disorder. They can say things to you that they are unaware of and while it may seem to be no big deal to you it may represent a massively traumatic event for them to become consciously aware of the thing they recently said.

Read Summer of Katya by this author
https://www.amazon.com/Hot-Night-City-Trevanian/dp/0312978820

>>18175454
And this has no relevance to anything. But I appreciate the kind words

>>18175433
By the time of the realization it had been years since they had bothered with me and so it was a calm and mild event. If it had happened earlier in my life I can only imagine how it would have shaped my life choices. I lived in deliberate hiding of this unseen presence and was hyper aware when they did stuff around me. I knew that the CIA was poking their nose into my life on several occasions and I realised that most people would not even be able to realize it under the same conditions but I had no clue as to why they were taking an interest in me.

>>18175468
But there is no road. There never was a road. All the common paths lead to destruction

>>18175475
Are you being serious? Or just derailing the thread? Because I'm not buying it, as genuine as you sound

>>18175501
Well it might sound like crap without going into detail in the effort to explain. But yeah.. Serious. I'll give one example. As I was attending junior college at about 22 yrs I made plans to go to back to Germany as a tourist or whatever.
At some point someone involved in an art group had suggested that I read der spiegl news magazine. I found a news stand type little book store that had it and bought a copy. Went back a month later got another issue no problem.
But the third time was different. There were many things going on there designed I assume to observe my reaction to, perhaps to guage if my memory was resurfacing. There was a full three shelves of various German magazines and a man with very Germanic hair, clothes and shoes who was always near enough to see what I was looking at. There was a gloating CIA operative (if you know how special all the secrets make them feel you get the impression) who probably was under the effects of some mind enhancing drug. He was behind the counter instead of the usual guy. While I was in the store there were several unusual people enter and talking to him each briefly. Some of their activity was odd enough it is reasonable to guess it was done to guage my reaction. I tuned most of it out assuming just as you would that it was normal but eventually the guy at the counter got on the phone and was speaking dialogue gradually louder each sentence. At some point I realized he was saying odd things like " what is the difference between bratwurst and knockwurst? " and I realized his conversation and the entire situation was not normal. I continued to examine the books and then located one article in one magazine by flipping quickly through several then made that selection paid and got out of there.

In the following two weeks after this my grandmother was visited by a couple selling vacume cleaners. She called me as they were asking her for referrals. I gave my mother's address and said that I was not interested etc. I was at my dads house when they showed up there and I had a clue as to what they were immediately. This is more than 90 miles from my grandmothers. The young woman was like la fem Nikita with her wildly arranged teeth and extreme ease and confidence. My dad seemed to get along with the young 'ex' marine she was teaching how to sell vacuum cleaners. As the young marine told my dad his military history it dawned on me that there was no way in hell his long military career had somehow ended in becoming a door to door salesperson and it was clear from his demeanor that he was absolutely fucking terrified of the chick. Lots of what they did and said contained multiple meaning that they closely watched the reactions to but overall they seemed to simply want eyes on reporting of the interior of the house.
Some of my brothers lived there and I was not certain that their lives were unaffected by this stuff. I even used to suspect that it could happen in their daycare and there's another example of how I knew of it but didn't think I was in it.
There were several other persons at that time that were possibly other personnel but the mentioned events were not subtle. It was as if they were gloating about their secret if you happened to be in on it.
Later I spoke with a friend who had sold vacuums for that same company for 8 years. He told me the procedure was to go street by street every time and never did they simply follow single leads all the way across 90 miles. Imagine how your profits would suffer. And they never visited my mothers house.
Its not unreasonable to draw this conclusion and I'm not trying to derail.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wrinkle_in_Time

This book was mentioned in the book secret weapons that I posted before. It was used in conjunction with the other items such as the leaked mk ultra video in the conditioning for young agency assets, preparing them for use and deployment.

>>18175433
It's pretty hard to tell what's actually going on and whether or not it's real or you're just crazy. That's part of the whole effect.

>>18178141
Children don't become crazy easily. They are very resilient. Their environment must be crazy for them to become crazy. Even though a life excessively controled may be considered a form of crazy, a well structured life can help to keep you in line when enduring this stuff. Most of the events are essentially removed from memory through the use of drugs.
Most of the subjects are raised in homes that are filled with conflict and abuse and neglect. It gives the subject more immediate things to do than to sit around and ponder their disconjoined memories. It is a very effective distraction. Without the daily trauma I'm sure I would have come to understand that something was going on.

>>18175501
When I said it was a calm and mild event I meant that it was oddly comforting because firstly they had not killed me and second it made so many things finally make sense. This was my state of mind as the world trade towers had their effect on society. I'm not bothering to go into the details of the images gathered through cognitive means, that would require a thread of its own.

there are a lot of things i'd like to say about this topic but i don't know how...

how does one say it?

my lips are sealed, the cat's got my tongue, mum's the word, can't breathe a hint, must keep it under my hat, it's all old hat anyway

i know i have gnosis and that's why i keep my noses clean (yes, i am multiple, i contain multitudes)

humans are like computers, you can easily partition drives, hard drives, line drives, sex drives, death drives, remember kids don't drink and drive

i've had to self-partition, tried to re-shelve the book of life, might have been the book of the dead, it's hard to tell

idk what possesses me to write this, perhaps i am dispossessed, or simply predisposed

do you believe in magic? in a young girl's heart? it's not just shadow play but shadow work, smoke and mirrors too, almost ready for lights, camera, action

are you a pupil? blackest of blacks, mirrored reflecting pools? to be an initiate one must be initiated, but then who is the first? the self-initiated initiator? or is it an initiatrix who first pulled these tricks?

don't you know your queen? don't be a drag, or drag others through the mud, unless they want to mud wrestle naked, like an american pig god

in the name of the father, have you forgotten his face? face off, you're face to face now

i love big other, and another, not to mention my mother and my brother

don't get too jazzed up, this is a fairy tale, where else would you hear about monarchs? it is 2016

oh well, time's up, heads up, seven up, you'll have your time in heaven, just buy turkish royals from 7-11 :^)

Anybody who's interested in the techniques used to create a monarch slave should read fritz springmeier's book The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave. It's pretty detailed.

>>18178777
Yeah that one is kind of the 'go to' for everybody. I think it's pretty split in usefulness. I've heard before that book being described as an instrument of mental fuckery in and of itself. Reading it is enough to screw with your brain. Some of the information is quite accurate. Other parts are very misleading.

I'd recommend it with a big warning that not everything is as it seems.

>>18178448
>just buy turkish royals from 7-11
nice rhyme, but I find it funny that turkish royals were totally my brand back when I was a smoker. Heh.

>>18178448
Strange as it might seem to some that is exactly the type of dialogue that can be said by a person with this condition without being aware. Afterward their memory of what was said might be selective and the emphasis in their recollection be very different from any discernible meaning. So many times I had point blank spoken about the stuff. Was I imagining that I was making it up? It's as if I made the statements without thinking about what the hell I was saying.

>>18179696
Some people say that the Illuminati enjoy wordplay and contradictions. Stuff like "remember to forget" etc. Pun and that kind of game. This >>18178448 seemed to be written by a person who is familiar with that kind of mind fuckery, at least on the surface.

>>18179760
It was the sequence of meanings that had the familiar tone to me. The starting with mention of secrecy and then the dismissal of importance.
The need to keep the thoughts about them secret is felt deeply. Even at 6 years of age I was distrustful when I heard of kids getting injured or falling from a balcony etc. I always assumed that there was another story that we were not being told and that we had better not ask about.

the gist of the whole project monarch thing:
>be a psychopathic pedophile
>give a kid lsd
>form a circle around him and chant,"do what we say and you will be free"
>rape him
>???
>profit
now you have a kid who will obey you unconditionally to not get fucking raped

>>18170168

>he thinks alibaba is the chinese Amazon

Opinion discarded

>>18180178
that's the official story, but the declassified mk ultra file was butchered to high heaven. you don't think they'd have given it away if it was valuable information right? the vast majority of the experiments, tens of thousands of records were burned and expunged. we got a sanitized declassified report but it was probably just to throw smoke off the actual trail. not that lsd is totally irrelevant. but I think the scope and horror of what they did in the classified reports just causes people to think to themselves, surely this is an ancient relic. there is no way our government is doing this to civilians and soldiers anymore in any capacity.

Does anyone have any interesting doxx on the King project that is happening all over the world? It's a pedophile network that is actually protected by the government and they make all kinds of garbage snuff movies, they kidnap rape and murder entire families, then adopt them in order to buy their silence, the project has been going on for almost 30 years.

I can take photos of the millitary facilities that they use to film this garbage that I've had in storage for a while. Would be glad to provide any info on the project so that it becomes public knowledge and it shuts down permanently.

Indonesia

Mexico

Japan - Nagoya

Italy

Dominican Republic

Korea

SG

Phillipines - Manila

Gran Canaria - Sta. Catalina/Triana/Guanarteme/Risco/Lomo Blanco/Tamaraceite

Atlantida

Tenerife

Spain - Seville

Portugal

Malaysia - Kuala Lumpur/Teluk Intam

America - Cali/San Francisco/Miami

/Cambridge

Brazil

Canada - Vancouver

UK - Boston

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>>18180822
Holy shit are we allowed to do this.

Exposing a pedophile network sounds pretty based.

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I think she actually got snuffed a while back. Poor girl. At least she has some peace now.

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Some Nostalgia

>>18180836
Nigga please I'm the king.

>>18171020
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>>18171325
>>18175040
Kek, Randy Prozac claims his stuff can regress you to the level of an infant because of certain government infrasound mindcontrol research he was involved in and knows about intimately, it actually worked for me BEFORE I learned it was supposed to regress you to an infant (making it not a placebo effect), the first time I listened to his shit my mental state regressed to that of a two year old, I saw everyone as cute, I wanted to do silly things like poke people in the nose when they were being angry, and literally began to think in extremely infantile ways, down to literally going "googoogaga" in my head for a while, I began to act more infantile and everyone was amused with me, it was very obvious, guys and girls alike called me very cute and compared me to an infant. I finally read a disclaimer he posted about how his music regresses you to the level of a fetus, got scared, stopped listening to his shit, and am now less infantile, but it was definitely an astonishing experience and shows life really is stranger than reality, infrasound really can deeply affect you and is most likely used in commercials and TV to alter your mind as Prozac claims, we have far less freewill than we think, perhaps even none, and, finally, that was a great experience and I think it proves Gurdjieff's ideas that most people's inner "essences" or subconscious minds never age past 2 to 4 years old, since at that age an artificial personality begins to be instilled in them (he talked about bringing this inner personality out w/ narcotics, this is in the early/mid 1900s, remember), and some claim Gurdjieff inspired MK-Ultra (which, finally, Randy claims to have worked in, releasing videos of people with supposed implants in their heads in a subproject called MK-Alpha), and, to bring it back, I think many people in their hearts are infants and could probably benefit from regressing to the level they are inwardly at.

idk

>>18180822
Please do that and talk more about it, bro.

>>18181295
But I don't mean that to scare you away, I actually suggest as many people watch it as possible, it'd probably fix a lot of people in the head, or at the very least make life more interesting, having all these people's artificial personalities destroyed, regressed to their true infantile level.

>>18181295
I listened to all of his stuff and didn't feel that different maybe link some that you thought were worse then the rest? i did 3mins on most

>>18180992
When I lived in Mexico about 16 years ago lots of the girls in the strip clubs had a tattoo of a blue bear paw like she has. I never asked but I figured they were more or less property.

>>18169363
that hurt my head
is it the only one though?

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>>18182223
It is the only one that I am able to evaluate as authentic from comparison to my own personal experience.

I am able to determine some of the images used I my own conditioning. I am able to recall the events prior to and after but not the film its self, the drugs were strong.

X

>>18168723
>He has quite a lot of detailed info

No, he doesn't. The gist of his shit is ripped straight off of Svali's story and other accounts any retard can find online, and the rest he makes up as he goes. I read like 20 pages and it was the dumbest RP shit ever.

>hurr durr I rape and torture people for a living but I'm not going to tell you babies any specifics because it "wouldn't be pleasant"

>>18182738
I didn't bother to read it. It would be inconsistent with the behavior of any other intelligence agency operative to disclose this type of details. I would be very interested if such a leak were to occur. Anyone handling this information knows the price they will pay and the real releases of information are almost all done anonymously or through false attribution.

>>18169363
Yes, words, colors, and sounds affect your senses and can make you feel things. Depending on how sensitive you are to sensory stimulation, it can even make you nauseous. Is there some kind of cognitive programming going on? No. Does it work as a trigger? Possibly, but it's not very convenient for that purpose, because no one is going to willingly sit through 15 minutes of senseless garbage.

tl;dr It's a youtube video.

>>18182752

The more spiritually aware individuals habitually disclose classified information as a way to uphold the Law of Confusion, so in theory, it's plausible. But yeah, they don't start threads saying "I'm an illuminati handler ask me anything". The truth is veiled in a prettier package, together with a whole lot of lies, so they can go, "you were told the truth, it's just your own stupidity if you didn't notice". They don't want to give people any kind of an advantage without getting anything out of it themselves.

Also, there are no "private" contractors doing it "just for the money" lmao. That's idiotic.

>>18181295
>, I began to act more infantile and everyone was amused with me, it was very obvious, guys and girls alike called me very cute and compared me to an infant. I finally read a disclaimer he posted about how his music regresses you to the level of a fetus, got scared, stopped listening to his shit, and am now less infantile, but it was definitely an astonishing experience and sho
anon can you post a link to the audio file you listened to?

>>18182758
What if you had been conditioned for it specially though? Obviously it's not going to work on anybody here because we weren't part of MK Ultra and even if we were it likely wouldn't have been that iteration that video was made for. But if you'd been put through a bunch of programming it's possible that video could have specific triggers for you.

>>18182738
He does tell specifics

>>18182752
Your loss, honestly. If you didn't read it, you obviously don't really care about learning anything that could be true. I even quoted him here and you said it was good info, so I think that's pretty stupid of you especially if you didn't even read it to make the judgement. His shit is WAY better than fucking svali. That lady is way more likely to be a fraud.

>>18182778
>nobody would ever make a thread saying "I am an illuminati handler ask me anything" it doesn't come in packages like that
You obviously have NO IDEA what fucking GLP is. That's why it seems strange to you. But WAY stranger shit then that goes down there. I guess I can't blame people from this site for having no idea what the fucking darker side of the internet has to offer. All I'm saying is if you guys don't open your mind enough to suspend your disbelief before making judgement, and you haven't done your research, you will likely never learn a damned thing. ESPECIALLY on a subject like this.

>>18182778
of course there are private contractors doing it just for money. Do you have a basic sense of logic or not? Do you know what MK ultra in hollywood is? Do you really think celebrities are allowed to go around saying whatever they want? Do you really think the people who deal with them are not paid handsomely for their work? Do you really think there are ONLY military applications for mind control? The entire point is to protect the status quo. Everybody who has a big presence on the world stage is subject to certain scrutiny by "TPTB". Or people would go around saying whatever you want.

You think there are no people in PSYCHOLOGY doing it just for money? Of course they are. First of all, hello ? therapy? this is like the opposite. You don't think therapists get paid a ton of money? why wouldn't people who knew psychology, but had learned how to use it to control people rather then help them, NOT get or want money for what they do, especially if they do it well ? hello, logic? of course this shit exists, regardless of whether or not you think you are hearing about it from Jos.

Logic.

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>>18181719

It's not a bear paw. It's a dog paw....

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>>18176874
How do you feel about the contents in this book, any of it grounded in reality? Why is this book being used in particular? I loved this novel.

>>18184034
Just didn't have time. Working long hours and not much free time. I've saved the thread and might get around to it eventual. As far as the truth goes there are many many shades of gray.

>>18184164
>many shades of grey
I agree with that.

>>18184162
I haven't heard of it being used, but you could probably use lot of things for mind control. I'd be interested in hearing what symbols are supposed to mean what in the programming or whatever, like how it's being used

>>18184162
Read the book secret weapons for that info.
It seems to me to have been used to instill concepts that help make the time breaks caused by the time spent as the alter make sence. I don't think they got much use out of me but can't be sure. I remember a lot but not everything. Some of the things I said before I realized that I was in this stuff leaves me wondering. There were a few times that I remember that were probably some form of activation and/or use. I'm certain that some of the kids I knew were far more into the programs than I was.

>>18182822
His eye videos mostly, I also listened to his music for maybe an hour at a time, laughing my ass off at it because it's just so over the top at times.

>>18181562
>i did 3mins on most
that's probably it man it was too short

http://sentimentalcorp.org/eyes_of_randy_prozac/index.html\

kek, do it at your own risk, infrasound hopheads. it was a funny experience for me

>>18184452
>http://sentimentalcorp.org/eyes_of_randy_prozac/index.html
fixed, idk why there was a slash at the end, it works exactly as it is in this post right now, not the one i'm responding to

>>18184452
>
>>18184455
also this is the one that has the disclaimer
http://sentimentalcorp.org/fixed_state/psychological_audio_cassette_1/index.html
probably gotta listen to it for a while though, that's what i did

>>18184459
>>18184455
>>18184452
finally, don't be mad if it doesn't work as i said it did, it may have different effects or none at all, "Prozac" himself says it has different effects on different people but his own intended effect for some of it is also to regress you to the level of your childhood, also talks about altering your dreams (I had supervivid and "hyperrealistic" (to use a creepypasta cliche) dreams, super profound and strange, which I forgot to mention), also some shit with sex drive which I'll let you find out for yourself. i've certainly done a good job of selling it

>>18184471
It didn't do much to me, okay, like when I was watching it it super tranced me out, but when it was over I didn't notice anything lingering at all. I watched two or three vids. seems like he's trying to start a social movement with his commentary and work on a subconscious level and I believe he's done his research but I don't think it has a lasting effect at all

>>18180822
So the evidence?

>>18184044
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

>>18184037

>blatant senseless lies by a roleplaying faggot
>hurr u need to open ur minds

Bro, put the pills away

>>18184022
I said this. A trigger doesn't need to be a 15-minute audiovisual clusterfuck. It's needlessly elaborate, which makes it inefficient for the job. It's just a dumb cliche somebody put together for shit and giggles.

>>18175695
>a man with very Germanic hair

>>18185932
It was a rough unkempt windblown thick dark blonde. The cut itself left the sideburns in a style that was recognizably common to the region. I had lived there from the ages of 4 thru 7 and from 9 until almost 13. I was very familiar with the culture. It may seem to be too subtle a thing to notice but it is a real thing. Also facial hair style is recognizable by region but his shoes were the dead giveaway. All the details considered together and the Germanic style was unmistakable. That and him constantly repositioning himself around the store so that he could see what I was reading made it clear he was not simply a passive bystander. They were not even trying to be subtle. Where there had been one small section of German magazines and such there was on that occasion three full shelves with a wide selection of material covering many aspects of the culture. From news and popular media to women's magazines that there is clearly no market for here. I think the fact that I was able to tune the several people who came in and talked to him briefly was seen as indication that I was not the alter which would have been hyper alert and completely unable to ignore any detail. I was paying attention without giving any physical cue but I was not able to hear the full detail of several strange requests. I had to consider that several of these people were some form of asset from a broad range of purposes.
He then got on the phone and began with the odd one line statements while slightly raising his voice with each one. This went on for a few minutes before I heard that one that was so clearly an odd thing to say that it confirmed my suspicions about all the odd bits of circumstantial data.
But yeah, Germanic hairstyles.. it's a thing.

>>18185871
As you can see in that video I posted the trigger for those subjected to it is "ladybird" to be delivered with a hug. In actual practice there would probably be an injection occur during this hug that facilities the transition of state of mind.

What would you do if you realized that someone in your life is in these programs and is not aware?
Let me tell you what I think would happen if you did. If they are actively being managed then there's a reasonable chance that they (the overseers) would realize that you are a threat to their asset and then a review of your vulnerabilities be made. Any pressure they can put in place to keep you from taking action would be considered and if nessessary, implemented. Worst case scenario they might use an asset (field agent) to enter their life or yours to disrupt any trust between the two of you.
I can say that they are generally set in their ways and would be unopen to the idea believing that their memory is already thorough and complete.
I've known a few but never tried to contact them after I became aware.

What can be said about the book secret squirrel business and the movie 12 monkeys?

>>18185037
probably a good thing for you, i listened to the music (systemsdeath recordings, the mouth with static on it in the home page) an unhealthily long time, which is probably what caused that singularly amazing effect on me. let me clarify i was so interested by his stuff that i listened and watched practically everything he had there for a good month or two everyday (goat worship, fetal programming, parasite dreams, SDR (systemdeath recordings) music, the eye videos, other random stuff he had there but took off like Necrosis of Perception), so that's why it had such an effect on me before I noticed his warnings about subliminals etc was serious.

Do you think "they" are intentionally making this year suck as much as possible so that we all get traumatized by it, and are thus more susceptible to mind control and suggestion?

>>18178448

Nice

>>18186038
>Germanic hairstyles.. it's a thing.

>>18186258
Provide links?

>>18185871
Who is to say it's only one trigger? What a stupid and pointless assumption. It could be any number of triggers.

>>18185860
>you clearly have no idea what you're talking about
WOW, the argument of a lifetime right here folks. Clearly this person knows better than I do. Clearly they have some kind of superior sense of reason and rationality, to put such a damning point of contention for the consideration of readers, as a point blank accusation, that I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about.

Or wait, is it just me, but is that assertion somehow...a little lacking hmm? Do you perhaps have a retort with just slightly more substance...or indeed, one with ANY substance whatsoever?

>>18185862
>blatant lies by a roleplaying faggot
let me see any one of you make a roleplay 1/10th as informative and convincing. go ahead, try it. you will fail miserably, because you know nothing about the subject.

People barely know anything about this shit. I do though.

anyone else not able enjoy any movies because of their knowledge of this?

>>18188087
yeah kinda
it was hard to watch american ultra

>>18188087
Yeah, or even life itself. When 9/10 people done goofed. If you can't relate to this then you already goofed beyond measure

>>18187337
"What if they like, had ALL the triggers dude whoa"

>>18187346
You compare the business model of a systematic brainwashing conspiracy to everyday therapy. I'm sorry, but words alone can't describe how stupid this is.

>>18187357

The day shift supervisor was late again today, so I was stuck monitoring the mercury flow in the bell turbines for an hour. Hate that shit, it's nerve-wrecking. Fortunately, plebs know about as much about BRM technology as they do about mind control, so nobody can correct me on the mercury flow having no connection with the turbines.

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>>18184455
I listened to randy prozacs stuff for about an hour yesterday evening, a couple of his eye music videos and the regression ones. I couldnt sleep until 5am, I felt wired and extremely tense and angry. Today I have headaches that wont go with paracetamol or water and my mind feels very "small", its hard to explain, I feel like I have trouble thinking and accessing my own mind fully. Somehow I feel almost traumatized by his music and the horrific nature of the "truths" that he essentially shouts in your face through his music about nwo/illuminati shit.

Its my own curiosity and choice to listen to his stuff all I can say is stay away from that sentimentalcorp shit desu

>>18189289
>You compare the business model of a systematic brainwashing conspiracy to everyday therapy. I'm sorry, but words alone can't describe how stupid this is.

No, words alone can't describe how stupid your failure of imagination is. First of all, you seem somehow willing to accept that military is going to use and not pay the people who do it. Why exactly is it an extension of logic to assume that if people do it for the government in an unpaid capacity, they also offer their paid expertise to those who are willing to pay the right price? That's why way money works, and you better well bet if you have a skill like that there are going to be people who put it to good use. Or are you one of those idiots that thinks the satanic ritual abuse of children is more likely then private contractors who work with the mental programming of adult celebrities?

Yet somehow you think vaguely, with no real actual substance or argument, that words cannot describe how stupid it is that people are paid to program the minds of others. Why is it stupid? Do you think it's done for free? Do you think with Rosanne Burr said "MK Ultra Rules in Hollywood" it was just a bunch of pro bono handlers who somehow have extremely valuable knowledge they don't charge for?

I think You're the one a little to stupid for words here, and you obviously don't even have a solid rebuttal. Way to look dumb, friendo.Think before you speak.

>>18189607
I watched it out of curiosity and it made me feel tranced out while I was watching it but it had no lasting effect on me whatsoever, IDK. I think the guy has bad intentions though he's obviously doing it to wake people up to social injustices.

I'll post some stuff I consider authentic if I can come up with a hard drive/USB cable before the thread dies.

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>ret vet
>wonder what they slipped in with BMT and other training...

>>18190484
if it dies I will start a new monarch thread lol
this subject is important to me

>>18190628
Funny thing is I had family on both sides of some of the testing. There are several things that are SOP now, done to increase the alertness of fresh troops. It's well out of the testing phase.
If, as you ship out, you ask why you received explanation for 5 shots and then received 6 shots you will have a bad day.

>>18190825
go on...

>>18191681
Literally had one uncle in on the administration side and another in unrelated events subjected to tests. In the 1950s some tests were as simple as running through a smokey haze and then being asked long lists of questions and this is the extent of his knowledge.
On the admin side it's hard to get any clear statement but it was with his m when he burned the documentation he had retained. He let me keep some of the lim/did stuff but nothing classified. Played by the rules and still does. Articles on mass psychology etc. were interesting. Not a civilian perspective.
But I had grown up with access to lots of stuff and there are always tons of back channel 'rumors' amount military personnel giving clues to odd things going on.
The reference to the shots come from the personal account of an acquaintance who asked to know what was in the unaccounted for injection. Said he didn't sleep for three days and was hyper alert to even a cricket at 150' the whole time. Reprimanded and stuck on a shit detail for his trouble.

>>18192813
I was with him when he burned..
>autocorrect spelling fuckery

>>18192820
Lim/Dis
Etc..

>>18190825
>>18192813

SERE, any info?
Also the pills they give to aircrew?

Epic bread /x/bros.

MOAR plz

>>18179379
Could you mention anything in it that may be misleading or outright dishonest or even just suspicious?

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>>18192857
I remember finding an article on the CIA effort to find ways to keep pilots alert on long range reconnaissance missions. It said something along the lines of that the sleep cycle of the brain was comparable to corrosion buildup on a battery being washed away and that they could not do away with the cycle all together but they could inhibit it giving the cycle a 90 hour reset instead of the usual 23 hours or so. So that probably has something to do with the pills.

In August of 98 I was arrested on bullshit charges after being attacked by the nephew of a police officer and spent a few days in a holding tank. They brought in a guy over traffic dumbshit who was trained to resist capture and was deployed as forward observer in the battle of Baghdad during Desert Storm. The cowardly little police courteously brought him water etc and were generally fearful of what the hell he was. He spent several hours waiting for a family to come pay his little fee. During that time he would sit and talk only briefly and then return to striking the door with massively powerful strikes any of which would easily kill a man. He was otherwise very calm and civil. I thought it was beautiful watching the coward redneck dumbfuck police tremble in fear of him. He did say that 17 times his unit thought they had Saddam in the cross hairs and waited with yellow light status but that each time the Pentagon came back with red/no go. All these years later it's clear that the target had probably been evaluated as being one of his body doubles. Probably evaluation was done at least in part by remote viewing.

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It isn't Monarch Mind Control, it's Parasitic Mind Control. It is as old as humanity. That is what you should be concerned about.

Brain parasites climb into our ears, and latch on to our brains. They manipulate our fears and desires. The carrot dangling in front is reinforcement like "be my host and you will gain eternal life, salvation, and ultimate purpose" and the whip at the back is "don't be my host and you will be sent to hell, be cast into oblivion, be damned for eternity." This is how it first burrows in.

Once it burrows in it controls even more basic emotions and perceptions. It secretes a drug whenever the host thinks about that makes the host feel good about it, and in time, even literally love it - this is "experiencing God's love." It is a vocal cord parasite, it compels the host to spread its eggs through its voice, by singing its praise, which infects others through their ears. Worshipers get together and sing this praise together, and yet higher purposes are infested in the brain - the need for social connection and purpose. It becomes the worshiper's focus of their life, how they see the world. Parents infect their own children, who are raised knowing only the parasite. There is no debating against it, for it is not merely a matter of someone being mistaken of something, making an error, it is a parasitic infestation.

This is metaphor, the parasites are comprised of information - beliefs, thoughts, habits and practices - but the way it works is exactly as if it were a biological parasite doing these things. They are memetic parasites - viruses of the mind.

All religions are parasitic in this way. Look to Islam and you'll see this, but Christianity is just as virulent. In the West it is hard to see because the chittering of the Christian parasites in the hosts around us urges us to not see it, and to not speak out against it - you will become a social pariah if you do, the hegemony of parasitic Christianity will harm your chances for success.

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It isn't just religions that are parasitic in this way. It is political and socioeconomic ideologies, the reason why politics is so terrible is because it's parasites vying for control, not humans engaged in rational consideration of things. It's conspiracy theories that are based upon fear and paranoia, and the reward of supposed knowledge - this very thread is an example. It's the bulk of consumer culture - the combined effects of a lifetime of marketing and advertisements on our psyches, manipulating our needs. Buy this and you will be more attractive, you will belong, you will be like this famous person. It is in personality cults and media-worship. All of humanity is locked into a matrix of parasitic control, it is the mental parasites that truly run things, run us. Even the elites are victim to it, they are especially infested.

Who made us this way? Was it some mad memetic engineer, space aliens? No, it was memetic evolution. Memes (units of cultural evolution) function like biological organisms evolutionarily: they reproduce, they mutate, they mate (combine to form a blend of ideas) they are selected according to how well they make people pay attention to them. Many times these memes are symbiotic with their hosts, for example a hammer, which is useful, or a recipe for cooking. Many stories, music, and art can be as well, serving vital functions, but sometimes they become viralized.

But perhaps a meme that was once useful gained elements through mutation or mating that viralized it, made it more likely to be reproduced outside of its actual utility. It merges with other memes with viralized elements, and it snowballs from there, competing with other parasites for mindshare.

There is no advice for a way out of this memetic mind control matrix that I can give. I too am infested. Perhaps simple awareness will loosen some of the parasites from the reader who has read this far.

https://vimeo.com/129609470

>>18193456
>>18193458
Topkek, we don't need your fedora ("religion and modern consumerist society are bad!!! conspiracy theories are just a reflection of it!!!!") in a thread about the literal sexual abuse and torture of children and adult human beings to create accessible multiple personalities in them that can be used for drug running, information carrying, espionage, prostitution, etc.

>>>/reddit/ would be more up your alley, buddy

>>18193456
What do you think of roman and greek paganism? those are the original religions dude. you cant just say that every religion is parasitic

>>18193622
You must be pretending to be retarded, if you fail to acknowledge, the consequences of the abuse of marketing.

Wich are well documented, just like the abuse of porn and social media.

In your search for a political standpoint, you actually managed to blind yourself from obvious knowledge, by making the false dichotomy, where, anything that the left believes it's automatically wrong, just because they're leftists.

>>18193622
Perhaps the memeplex I have formulated, which in turn is the result of other influences and by no means novel, will affect you in time. Notice how emotional your response was. Mockery, dismissal, perhaps anger. Your parasites are fighting. However this is one weakness of mental parasites: by trying to fight they require its host to focus on the threat. You read the post and responded to it. Will it work as an antivirus, or a virus-eating virus? Only time will tell.

>>18193646
It doesn't matter what I think. However notice that you are searching for exclusion and exception. Surely this parasite is friendly, right? Search for how you feel when you hypothetically reject your most cherished beliefs, when you consider them in the most negative light. The most infested are unable to even do this, if you are you are fortunate.

>>18193651
Social media and the internet have become incredible new infection vectors. Information spreads very rapidly and with global reach. Witch-hunts, mass hysteria, and hive-mind conformity are normal now. I will not give specific examples but I'm sure you can think of many, and it will only get worse.

>>18193677
It's true social media has become a problem.

With the current campaign, we officially hit a new checkpoint, in internet as a mass media manipulator.

It's going to be a subject of study in low level circles for a while, and most techniques will be improved on.

Most will end in marketing and behaviour research, it could even be a divergent path from conductism.

>>18193719
>It's going to be a subject of study in low level circles for a while, and most techniques will be improved on.

This is memetic engineering: the deliberate attempt to synthesize memes to improve their virality. It is nothing new, and has been introduced into even the military, such as in this document: http://www.robotictechnologyinc.com/images/upload/file/Presentation%20Military%20Memetics%20Tutorial%2013%20Dec%2011.pdf which was presented at the Social Media for Defense Summit.

It's even done on an amateur level, at this location: 8chnet/bmw/index.html /pol/ ideologues plan "memetic warfare."

The problem with memetic engineering is that it's uncontrollable: the same elements of the memes you engineer to be superior will jump ship and attach to other memes, acting like symbiotic viruses that increase the reproductive fitness of their host parasites. In the pre-internet era you could control it by constricting the flow of the information, but this is impossible now.

I sometimes like to consider the possibility of super-antiviruses emerging from this chaos, with some features that makes the parasites benign or even symbiotic. Wishful thinking, and so I try not to become too attached to it.

>>18193651
>>18193677
I wrote some long-ass post against you, but the gods/FBI agents assigned to read my boring posts (kek) apparently didn't like it, I'm this asshole >>18193622

I'm mad because you're derailing this thread (make another thread if you wanna talk about it, why not?) and your view on memes is itself memetics or "parasitic" if you wanna view it like that. Let me explain:

Image a Deity exists. Imagine some enlightened men contact this Deity and gain important occult truths. But not everyone can understand these truths, moreover it's difficult to express them without allegory. They cloak the truths in rites and fancy language and poetic language and establish that this religion they've founded be passed down mechanically/"memetically", like your memetic engineers. But they've done this with a beneficial purpose, so esoteric information can be passed on to later generations. And so maybe all religions were initially created by enlightened men cleverly manipulating the vast swathes of humanity so important info could be passed down mechanically by them to later generations, reach certain people who could benefit by it.

>>18193972
The thread is about psychological mind control. My post is on-topic.

>your view on memes is itself memetics or "parasitic"
There are symbiotic memes and parasitic ones. The "meme" meme has become parasitic with kek and meme magick.

>What if Gods are real.
There's zero legitimate reason to believe they are. None. No scientific reason and no philosophical. 72% of modern academic philosophers are atheists (http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/04/29/what-do-philosophers-believe/) for this reason: as the focus of their entire careers is the rigorous inspection of knowledge with no sacred cows, which is their overriding selection criterion, they have developed an immunity to God memes on average much higher than the general population.

Because there's no reason to believe in Gods the true reasons must be entirely psychological and sociological.

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>>18194056
Well, now I know you're nothing more than a "meme", buddy, with your appeal to authority. Good luck, you had a chance to inspect your own beliefs and be free from your own memes, but you failed! I'm not even going to post a fedora, as that's too memey 4 u!

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>>18194647
First, there's fallacious and valid appeals to authority. Secondly I didn't use an appeal to authority, what I said is essentially "most philosophers are atheists and here's why." Not "this is true because most philosophers believe it.

>>18194770
You have so many fedoras you could put a hundred on the head that's stuck up your ass and still have one left over to give to a poor homeless atheist child.

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>>18194782

In image form assuming you are >>18194647

>>18184455
I get "unauthorized civilian access".

Is this correct?

I restarted the video and got a bit farther before getting it again. Should I just keep going?

Where can I post webm with sound?
The files really need the audio track kept intact.

>>18195123
/gif/ and /worksafegif/

>>18195138
Thanks

>>>/wsg/1331990

>>18195381
This leak is rare. Please keep the three files together and in the order posted.

>>18195386
Can you explain to me what we are looking at here?

>>18181295
>>18184459
>>18184471
Literally fake and gay the website. I listened to most of it and I saw most of it what I could see before it gets cut off. I didn't feel anything minus a little spoopyness, but the whole thing was a waste of time.

>>18195402
I consider it self explanatory. What is there to explain? I assert only that I evaluate this as authentic. Someone from inside thought it would be a good idea to let this out. Maybe it just takes one to know one. Like McVeigh, I caught one glimpse of him on the TV on the day in 1995 that he was arrested and on that same day I disconnected all phones in my house (landlines, no cellphone). I did this without giving any explanation to anyone because it was for the 'irrational idea' that I might get that call and be activated. That was my conscious thought but I did not say it to anyone because of how crazy it sounded. I did not realize the truth until August 2001 early in the month.

>>18195478
>X 10/03/16(Mon)22:02:34 No.1819547
but literally what is it? JW

>>18195478
>I assert only that I evaluate this as authentic
why?
what do you think showing people these webms for ants will do?

>>18195501
They were released about 10 years ago and are small compared to what you may be familiar with due to the technology of the time. Try viewing it in fullscreen.

>>18195520
you completely ignored the two salient questions in my post your fucking fag asshole. fuck your RP bullshite REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>18195520
>>18195530
>>18195478
>>18195402
>>18195386
>>18195381
hi

https://vimeo.com/47933743

>>18195530
The answers are redundant and obvious; showing the images will help those persons who may have an interest to understand that there is substance to the claims of persons who recall their involvement in such programs. I simply thought you could deduce that much on your own. I am not a big fan of unnecessary action.

>>18195562
you are a pretty big fan of bullshit though.
>>18195560

>>18195487
I dunno.. read the thread maybe?

>>18195560
So the video is an art project / viral ad campaign element.

Let this be a lesson to all who take videos on the internet at face value.

Seriously, how brand new can people be?

>>18195560
Damn, you're a big faggot Mr. X. Not that I read any of your bullshit walls of text, anyways.

>>18195578
i'm pretty convinced this "X" guy is a total shill/just plain crazy.

but hey, maybe he is being fucked with by the gov a la Chameleo if he believes all this stuff he says. haha

>>18195560
Okay so it's a viral campaign of some kind though
I'm interested though what it's trying to 'get at'
is this for some kind of game or is it trying to spread awareness of some kind of social issue potentially even mk ultra?
that's respectable in my eyes
even fiction could be based on some fact.

>>18195573
I am the OP of the thread so I've read all of it
I expect if you are going to tell us that you have access to leaks or whatnot you can explain what they are and why we should be paying attention to them. If you can't explain what they mean and why they are relevant, you cannot expect the readers here to take what you say seriously. They are just going to assume you are insane.

>>18195611
>>18195578
this person went into greater detail, sounds like typical ARG shenanigans desu but "X" took it a lil too seriously. they mention they distributed it in fragments initially.

>I wrote and creatively-directed this dark viral film as the centrepiece of an online
>campaign to support the release of Free Radical's dystopian FPS shooter, set in 2024.
>It was designed to be distributed in small fragments across various online and social
>channels to intrigue the community and encourage them to work together to assemble the final sequence.
>The film was also full of 'easter-egg' references to the game, and you could even follow
>the character's name to find him in his current day life (i.e. before he grows up to
>become the doomed soldier), which added a poignant element to the campaign.
>Direction was by Diamond Bullet
>https://www.behance.net/gallery/11204073/Haze-Viral-Campaign

>>18195631
Thank you that's helpful. I figured it was a viral campaign but I was wondering what it was about.

>>18195578
I would be interested in proof that the person who posted that is involved in it's production. I had the videos long before he posted that. Haven't even been on that hard drive in over 6 years and I had them years before that. If it's not authentic then I would concede to having been convinced due to inadequate research into the origin. I will hope that not be seen as a detraction from my personal account or the experiences of others.

>>18195647
>>18195631
>>18195649
there's also a nearly decade old thread on that one arg forum
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19623

>>18195649
I have no involvement in that game's production you dumdum. you either lack basic discernment skills or are straight up crazy; as i believe you have proven many many times over the years i've seen you post here.

the made up drug they inject in the guy is listed in the games wikipedia article also if you think they aren't related enough already.

Its fact that the government conducted mind control experiments. its not a fact that you were in anyway involved imo "X". Keep on RPing you complete faggot.

>>18195611
I stand corrected. I was only aware of the fragmented release. It was, or claimed to be, sent to a random blogger with a reasonable sized audience who posted the videos. I never had followed up on it and the hard drive went into storage. In the fragments that I had the only thing that seemed wrong was the sound of the injection. It is well enough made but the editing, blurring and voice masking left a very plausible version. If I would have understood that you were not someone just joining the thread I would have given a more lucid answer.

>>18195702
No problemo. I like to see interesting stuff, videos like these. But you may as well explain them so everybody can understand why they are important. And if you don't know yourself maybe they aren't so legit. I agree that it does look like something interesting, but people do tend to go out of their way for Alternate Reality Games too so that's always something worth ruling out.

I have offered my genuine account of the events of my life. I would expect that there will be a broad range of reactions. To me your reactions are a matter of demographic statistics. Common belligerence is a matter of character and the success of the Frankfurt school.

When someone posts this much information about their personal experiences they are either:

1. Telling the truth
2. Completely insane

No one makes all this shit up for fun and trolling in a sane way.

>>18196926
I agree, both can be true at t he same time as well

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CTRL+F "cathy o"
>phrase not found

come on, /x/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_O%27Brien_(conspiracy_theorist)

Project Monarch Mind Control slaves wouldn't even be a thing if it wasn't for her

>ia600502.us.archive.org/10/items/TranceformationOfAmerica/tranceformation_america.pdf

>>18196926
Storytellers exist.

You guys need to rewatch Eerie Indiana. Look at what he has round his neck; google that and then watch the last episode.

>>18197351
I'll add Cathy to the general next time, it's just I don't know how much of her story was corrupted by the obvious handler Mark who took her in .

>>18197351

so it was just a fantasy of a succubus?

i hope not. I really wish this world was more evil.

>>18198752
Read up on the detroux scandal, this world is fucked up and you need to realize it quickly. It's not fun and games.

https://isgp-studies.com/belgian-x-dossiers-of-the-dutroux-affair

>>18198805

shit now I regret what I said

fuck evil

>>18196926
this guy is most likely copy pasting to a large extent. he's been around for a long ass time telling the same stories and pushing questionable things like the vid from this thread.

>>18198805

woah that site man

10/10

>>18198899
Really? I admit I am a bit new to /x/ so that could certainly be. I was on GodlikeProductions for a longtime but my name is now blacklisted there.

>>18198752
I don't think I'd call it entirely a fantasy. Someone I know mentioned that it's hard to get good information from the victim of mind control because they don't truly know what's happening to them or why and their heads are all kinds of screwed with.

>>18168455
If this is real, which it is in some form or another, then I guarantee that most (if not all) of these websites were created to feed into or worsen that very same programming. By the very same people doing the programmer. Intended to lure in people suffering and looking for answers and cause them even further harm.

But hey, what do I know.

>>18199911
This. At some point you have to step back from it all and let go of the things you thought you knew. Which is very hard to do.

>>18199911
Well I'll put a huge warning on one particular thing which is shit written by fritz springmeier. That book will fuck your mind up whether it was fucked up in the first place or not. Doesn't matter if it's true or whatever, that shit will fuck up your mind.

True it's a deep rabbit hole that can make things worse. People seeking the truth can't help themselves though (eg me)

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>>18181295
Any way how to get pass the "unauthorized civilian use detected" on the videos?

>>18198805
>https://isgp-studies.com/belgian-x-dossiers-of-the-dutroux-affair
READ IT NOW FAGGOTS

YOU WANT EVIL?

EVIL IS REAL

PEDOWOOD RULES THE WORLD

>>18198899
My personal experience is not copy paste. Only in a very few instances have I copied from my own previous writing. If you know of my previous posting then you know that I haven't been on much lately (Although I have seen other people using the X name in the time I was least present). You can see that I am keeping myself to a single topic here because it is hard enough to introduce people to even a single aspect of my personal experience and cognitively obtained visual and conceptual images. Many people are not able to grasp the truth and become emotional in their efforts to dismiss and deface it.

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>>18168455
I'm under monarch mind control, but used God's power to turn it against the Satanist Jews and now they serve me as the filthy slaves of slaves they were born to be.

>>18197356
All I can do in the face of disbelief is to sincerely present as much detail in the highest clarity and quality with the most thorough effort possible. When dealing in intangible data that has no verifiable relationship to material reality any opinion may be claimed to have equal value. But when you are offered an opportunity to verify fact, such as my claim that you can find the name of the guy that drove me to a facility near Manheim Germany to have my alternate identity created through trauma based conditioning, a differing opinion is of little value.

>>18197259
I agree. However, sanity is a relative term.

>>18200410
How many years ago was this?

>>18200398
>six feet deep
lol

>>18201042
Previously stated; 1973
He was captured in the 80s and never released, probably died in lubyanka

Combat journalist
Protip:
It's an Arabic name

>>18201674
if you want to tell your story, just tell it.You're acting like you want this to be an ARG to stroke your ego.

>>18200391
if you're worried about other people stealing your name just use trips
and if people call you a tripfag whatever fuck it at least they can't pretend they wrote shit that you wrote

>>18202502
Just too busy working etc and got not much time for posting right now. Was at work as I wrote that etc. Omw to work now even..
Many of my posts are described as walls of text.. I suppose too long or too short gets a reaction.
>>18203454
I don't see it as a problem. It is for clarity in a single thread and not an effort to create an established identity.

>>18203811
It might help you to simply write it all out.

>>18168460
I was seriously interested in info when I posted >>18168751

>>18203811
>writing one name is waaay too much work.
>guess I'll make excuses as to why i'm a huge RPing faggot.

>>18206594
Let him say what he wants, that's the benefit of the namefags.

>>18209053
>the benefit of the namefags.
muddying the waters with false information is a benefit? lol

http://www.vice.com/read/elisa-lam-drowned-in-a-water-tank-two-years-ago-but-the-obsession-with-her-death-lives-on-511

Tuberculosis bioterrorism was caused by the pedophile network since they took her family hostage.

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Alice in Wonderland has always been very "monarch" for me

You know these things probably even have some kernel of truth associated with them but the fact that the people going on and on about this are insane, gullible, stupid losers makes the rest of the population dismiss some of the actual info

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>>18209053
I have lived my entire life with a general awareness of programs such as Echelon, complete with detailed personal accounts of specific actions of personal information collection efforts, and even had acquaintances who worked within these types of operations. I simply prefer to use the anonymity available here without providing a clearly identifiable means of tracking my identity.

>>18211844
You have to wonder if the entire conspiracy theory community is ruined by the loud and memorable crazies. There ARE a lot of respectable conspiracy theories, but nobody remembers them quite like the paranoid schizophrenics.

>>18212410
People can't tell true from bullshit anymore.

A wall of crazy text, can hide some valuable info, take it as tactical crazy cammo.

>>18212462
Yup, well I'm open-minded enough to sift through appearances to find what lies beneath. But most people simply aren't wired that way. And school doesn't help.

>>18212480
Aren't people educated with memes yet?

School it's a wasteof your time, you could learn ten times the amount if you used time anywhere else.

Only good thing about school are the people.

Too bad they are gather together, around a cult to ignorance.

How would someone truly go about realizing if something like this happened to them?
It rings a bell to read, but not clearly.

Has anyone noticed the Morse code at the end of American ultra? I've tried deciphering it but am struggling with when a letter begins and ends.

>>18215049
have you tried googling it? I'm curious to know too

>>18215045
Do you have military ties in your family? do you know people in intelligence?

>>18215103
Sort of. Dad's been involved with local politics and law enforcement for my whole life, never military but has done some civilian contracting (in intelligence, though I'm pretty sure nothing exciting; he briefly mentioned before that the info is all declassified & publicly available now.) I've met various important people over the years due to his connections but I couldn't name many, since I generally had no idea who they were, just "some friend of dad" at the time.

The weirdest thing to me is that I can see a lot of the signs but at a lower level, weaker. It feels sloppily done, or something. Like it was never completed, or done by an amateur. Don't know how that would work, though.

>>18215188
If your father was involved with contracted intelligence work it is possible. What have you read and what has resonated with you that makes you feel this may have happened to you?

>>18168455
>not even 1 link to vigilant citizen
shaking my head here

>>18215231
If you have links you feel should be contributed to the next general dump em. This is one of my newer laptops so a lot of the links on my other one weren't included here.

>>18215103
>have you tried googling it? I'm curious to know too
not deeply all the links are commercial shit if i do find out ill make a post(if im aloud/idgaf) I've got a few ideas like separating the static/soundtrack and recording intervals

google suggests it's linked to the joker alter due to the snow white script used in past / song playing during transmission being called snow

note to anyone attempting to crack it during interstellar murphy discovers that her ghost(father) wasn't sending morse but was sending binary and it was also mentioned that parts of the data can b lost in transmition through the wormhole/across dimensions

>Do you have military ties in your family? do you know people in intelligence?

not him but i have 4 godfather/2xgrandfather/father from military one directly influenced my hospitalisation/schizoaffective/did i applied twice for army i cant remember anything besides preliminary tests

>>18215220
id say its confirmed the level is unknown tho "ring a bell" is pay attention for an alter

>"some friend of dad" that's the cover i was always given

>>18212410
I'm of the probably-not-that-far-off idea that the CIA themselves are responsible for the bullshit.

Maybe initially some of the loud crazies were people who the CIA paid to be loud and crazy or otherwise led them like the proverbial horse and the carrot.

Also writers paid to write complete nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Jewels_(Central_Intelligence_Agency)

So there's not a peep about this.

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Resources for you

>The Establishment, a.k.a the people behind all
ftp://gftp.ga/The%20All-Embracing%20Library/ESTABLISHMENT/

>Information Warfare
ftp://gftp.ga/The%20All-Embracing%20Library/INVESTIGATION/INFORMATION%20WARFARE/

>Cyber Warfare
ftp://gftp.ga/The%20All-Embracing%20Library/INVESTIGATION/CYBER%20WARFARE/

>>18215235
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/IlluminatiFormulaindex.shtml

>>18215220
There's various things. Lots of lost time in childhood, though not much anymore. I noticed different "personality states" a few years ago, or rather finally put together that they weren't normal "moods" but something deeper. Generally I maintain memory between them, or don't even notice the switch until after it's occured - but mannerisms, handwriting, interests, etc change significantly.
The beta/sex kitten bits seem very familar. At least one of those personality states I mentioned is very submissive and sexual, and tends to see herself as a cat or catlike being. Other things that seem familar: dolls, demons/angels, gemstones... I haven't looked at any of the videos or anything, but from the texts I've seen a lot of the main triggers don't ring a bell. (Most Disney, Wizard of Oz, etc, gives me a weird feeling but not an intimate, related one, just a weird one.) If it matters, another of these "states" does cause quite a bit of dissociation ("watching from afar" feeling, time loss) and tends to be cruel/manipulative to outsiders while supportive inside.
Definitely had innapropriate sexual knowledge and fears from an early age. Repeated tendencies to identify & approach "dangerous" people, specifically abusers and pedophiles. Incredibly submissive responses, especially to certain authority figures. Heard voices for a while, but unrelated issues + meds forced them out. Up until adulthood, had very little in the way of outward anger responses, even in situations they should have been reasonable - I would blame myself for everything, if I assigned blame at all. Obsessive thoughts of "I haven't been abused / I should be abused" when younger. Easily accepts contradictions as concurrent fact: I can say one thing, think another, and still hold both as 100% true. Easily believe own lies to the point I forget them.

I'm missing a lot of typical signs, but the stuff that is there keeps making me question. I don't know if I'd want to know the answer if I got it.

>>18217364
can you elaborate on the lost time in childhood.

can you elaborate on the alters, do they have names?

do you know if things did happen to you with those friends of your fathers?

How did you learn about mk ultra and when?

ok, i found nice page
http://pickenslab.net/
what you guys think about their work and is this somewhat connected with all mindcontrol programs?

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>>18219371
Mmm. typical post-grad neuro studies, conductism, alcohol abuse, and new meme drug.

I liked the project on ketamine, but that will make it useless as an anti depressive.

http://www.pseudoccultmedia.net/

>>18218150
>can you elaborate on the lost time in childhood
Starting some point in late elementary school or middle school, I noticed I had very few memories prior to age 9-10. What memories I do have are snapshots of times at school/school events, etc. I specifically remember a moment around 9 when I was told we were going to my grandparent's house. I told my mom I was excited because I had never been there before, and she laughed and told me I'd been going there yearly since I was 2. I had absolutely no memory of this, or of the house once I arrived. I often had moments of waking up and feeling like I'd been sleeping for weeks, or like I hadn't done daily tasks (using the bathroom, etc) in that long.

>can you elaborate on the alters, do they have names?
Sort of. Some I named when I started trying to figure this all out; others had names picked for other reasons. Sex alter had one picked out for camwhoring and such. "Host" had one for general online nicknaming, though some of the old nicknames I used ended up being more the idea of other alters.
I actually hesitate to call them full alters though - for the most part, it feels we have good memory and continuity. Things others experience feel like they happened a long time ago, but are still more or less remembered. Like we're either operating out of the same core, or through some filter, or both. There is at least one exception I know of, who definitely gives fuzzy memory/sense of being disconnected from body. I can answer more specifically if you ask but I'm not sure what else to say vaguely, or in public honestly; /x/ probably isn't the safest place to discuss specifics, but I suppose no where is safe in the first place.

>>18221574
>do you know if things did happen to you with those friends of your fathers?
That I don't know. My father doesn't really seem the type, even if I assume my memory is fake; my parents were clueless and occasionally neglectful or ignorant, but I don't take them to pimp me out or anything.
At the same time, I really don't have enough memories of that time to put together who else or why. I'm pouring water into a cheese grater. I know was in various daycares and with various babysitters and waiting around in various doctors officers, and most of the rest of the time I was alone at home. Some of those daycare runners and babysitters and doctors and such were his friends. Most of his friends probably knew where we lived, or could find it. If my life is otherwise this fucked, there's a good chance *something* happened with *someone* even if it was just "vanilla" child sexual abuse. So there's a good chance it was one of them, but I couldn't tell you who or where.

>How did you learn about mk ultra and when?
I think I actually first remember seeing it going through Wikipedia articles or something. I thought it was interesting, but not much beyond that. Over time it was brought up various places - mentioned in an analysis of some song lyrics, on lists of "creepy things," etc - and I started getting more interested, but only in a passive sense. It had an appealing quality, but trying to read most of the info felt like slogging through mud despite being usually all into this shit, maybe because I usually browse this stuff at 2am. It's only the past few days when it was brought up on some "conspiracy theory" list for the umpteenth time that I started looking at it deeper and started making some connections. I still can't say I'm convinced, but things line up enough to keep me thinking about it a few days later, so here I am, I guess.

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can someone explain to me what the whole mind control conspiracy program relevancy to today is wasn't MK Ultra a failed program that shut down in the 70s and isnt it just another modern day rehash of the 80s Satanic ritual abuse hysteria?

>>18221816
You're missing the point. We want there to be some big, bad ebil government/shadow organization behind all the Bad Shit, that we can expose it, save the world, and reap in endless smugbux by saying we knew it all along, remember what I said?

Do you want that, or do you want the Bad Shit to be caused by upscaling general human stupidity? Good luck with that, how do you fight stupid? I'd rather fight bad guys in my conspiratorial LARP.

>>18221574
you are probably right in that /x might not be the wisest place to discuss this. I have a forum
http://bluemonarch.freeforums.net/
where I kind of specialize in this subject of mind control. if you make a username there and send me a private message that might be the more appropriate format for us to talk (I'm caylus ark there too). It's up to you friendo.

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>Monarch thread
>Not a single post of the Zaza Hotel

Literally wew lad.

They even have a menu titled Monarch and Private Events as a subcategory.

P U R E C O I N C I D E N C E

http://monarchprogramming.wordpress.com

>>18221835
>We want there to be some big, bad ebil government/shadow organization behind all the Bad Shit

Normally because that is the case. It's funny though because when anyone mentions it you tell them to "go back to /pol/", it's cool if you can't handle the facts and you can't handle that life isn't a bed of roses. Just try not to drag down the useful members of society down with you like you always do. Next you'll be telling me the eternal victim is hated for literally no reason and has been for the last 2000 years.

>>18223494
go back to /pol/ mindcuck.

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928 Allerton Ave, Bronx, NY 10469

MK Cadillac Training Center

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>>18224401

>>18211057
Go on.

>>18224582
It talks about it a lot here
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/oz.htm

I made a collage to trigger myself with
http://bluemonarch.freeforums.net/thread/176/ti-butterfly-nameless-wonderland
or did I make it because I was triggered? I dunno.

>>18184037
>You obviously have NO IDEA what fucking GLP is.

I think you're the one who has no idea what that site is about. Check out some of the words that get you a life auto-ban on GLP, that'll give you a hint.

>>18180992

Seems to still be working. You can fuck her in the shitter for $100.

http://adultsearch.com/oklahoma/tulsa/female-escorts/426215

Who's the whore and what's her relevance?

>>18175245
>A particular focus of my conditioning was development of cognitive aptitudes (i.e. psychic and perceptual abilities)

Could you extrapolate on how you developed your psychic abilities?

>>18226130
There are no words I know of that get you a "life" autoban on glp that I know of (thought that place could probably deserve its own thread for weirdness) and any autoban can be circumvented by paying (of course) or gotten around by a vpn. however, if you try trying "caylus ark" there, you'll be banned.

>>18226130
What words would you say net you a "life" autoban from glp? I've never heard of that, but I know if you talk shit about any of the mods that you're as good as permabanned.

>>18226437
I got banned for saying that the jersey devil was a goat on a tree.

Besides that it's a great forum.

But their mods are even more paranoid than ours.

>>18226469
the paranoia and insanity of the mods there make the ones here look like supermen/woman and saints, believe me. that's coming from a former longtime member. those guys are crazy. and that site will make your mind go all paranoid and weird. I don't recommend it.
There are lots of weird autoban words.
"being a goat" seems to be one of them (things with goats for some reason). Oh, "read a book" is another. I used to think maybe some of these random phrases are somebody's trigger words or some shit because otherwise it just seems to fucking random. but then again, who really knows. it's a cool forum, just don't post. my recommendation. I've known plenty of otherwise sane people rendered crazy from spending too long there....

>>18223958
>"W-w-w-well p-p-p-p-prove it"
>Proves it
>"F-f-f-f-f-f-fuck o-o-o-o-o-off b-b-b-b-b-back t-t-t-t-t-to /pol/ you r-r-r-racist a-a-a-a-anti-s-s-s-s-semite"

Be honest, are you one of those nerd virgins or just a beta?

>>18222137
I'll do this soon, hopefully. Thank you for your advice.
At the moment, thinking about all this has just made me more paranoid, and weird things keep happening. I'm not sure if it's connected, but just in case I'll let it lie for a while and see what happens.

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>>18226157
Do you know how to read? Can you understand sentences? It's all in the thread

TFW you are the ultimate byproduct of this program, the physical embodiment of Kek.

>>18228334

Doubtful.

>>18188818
>tfw I ended up explaining that MKultra was a real life program only with was less cool results after watching that with people.

>>18168475
>http://www.standbyformindcontrol.com/all-movies-on-mind-control/
I think you might not have gone over this blog. they dont review movies in the context of mind control/mkultra at all.

>>18175453

>Try getting close to any person with multiple personality disorder. They can say things to you that they are unaware of and while it may seem to be no big deal to you it may represent a massively traumatic event for them to become consciously aware of the thing they recently said.

You might be on to something.

Sometimes I say weird, obscure shit, then afterwards I become ashamed of it and that creates a mini-trauma which leads to dissociation, depersonalisation and derealization. During this phase I'm basically just lying in my bed like a corpse. I've managed to waste the last year using that method.

Basically I have the power to become invisible or dead at will for a certain period. I've experienced a lot of traumatic shit in the past.

Whenever I feel too depressed or lazy to handle reality I use that method.

this thread has been on x for literally 3 weeks lol

>>18231927
This. Shit's done to death by now. I've nothing against the spreading of knowledge and discussion, but it seems like the same shit regurgitated over and over at some point.

>>18227915
it can be triggering to talk about and think about.
use your discretion, sometimes the past is better left sealed.

>>18231344
yeah you're right, my bad. I'll fix that next time.

>>18231944
you guys don't think it should have a place where people can talk about it on x? I don't think it's insignificant subject matter. But I guess not everybody finds mind control as interest and relevant as subject matter as I do. I mean isn't any subject the same shit regurgitated over and over again at some point?

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I posted this in another thread but it seems more appropriate here.

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>>18222952
>Zaza Hotel
Room 322
>pic related
322 is the official number of Yale's Skull and Bones society.

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>>18232695

>>18229767
just look at the logo, butterfly

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>reading Programmed to Kill
>mfw all throughout Part 1: The Pedophocracy

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>>18168455
Good job on this thread, OP. Especially the way you started it out with all these sources. Looking forward to investigating, just wish I'd have found the thread sooner.

>>18174581
love this image

>>18233134
I've read almost every thing by David McGowan. I loved his Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon: Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & the Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream... I found the whole thing online years ago. Probably still up in a few places if you look.

I've read so much about the McMartin pre-school trial - police reports, transcripts, you name it... and some of the claims he makes in regards to that case are completely false. (the assertions he makes about the officer who died "mysteriously" just before he was due to give testimony comes to mind as being a glaring example.)

He's such a great writer. And I love how (especially in his Laurel Canyon piece), he puts pieces together but doesn't jump to conclusions, he puts that to the reader. Just be cautious, investigate the claims and their sources (or lack there-of)... any decent conspiracy theorist will do this no matter what they're reading... just wanted to point out that in at least one case, DM put pieces together in a way that made a picture that was incorrect, the pieces themselves were flawed.

I've been meaning to read more of Programmed to Kill, I guess seeing through a part of his version of events surrounding McMartin put me off. How do you feel about the other parts you've read?

Anyone else have thoughts on Programmed to Kill?

>pic unrelated
just some history

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>>18174581
the Art of Alex Gross
>http://www.alexgross.com/

So is this randy prozac stuff legitimate? most of his stuff comes off as it were sketch comedy.

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>>18197351
Is she the first person to have talked about Project Monarch as a concept? or the first to talk about the mind control and splitting? I've heard of her, and about how her book is all about this "conspiracy theory", but I've always wondered if it was actually the original source, or if she was the first person to describe her past abuse and programming.

anyone else know?

>pic related is the second part of the image posted >>18234131
The history of the MKUltra (what we know, and when we knew it) has been much easier to trace than the history of Project Monarch. I know it's getting late in the thread, but I'd be grateful for any info or sources I could check out on this (especially regarding Cathy O'Brien).

solid info here:

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Ritual_Abuse

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Tranceformation_america.pdf

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Project_Monarch

>>18182758
>willingly

Who says they do it willingly?

>>18221835

It's both actually.

>>18178777
>fritz springmeier's book The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave


read the full text here:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/mindcontrol/mindcontrol_index.htm

also found a few places where you can read/download a .pdf version of the book easily

>>18226308
Read the book "Secret Weapons" to get an understanding of the type of experiences the programs put a young person through. One of the girls describes being tied to a floating log in a dark room and the log being spun so that breathing had to be timed and the asked such questions as "what is the name of the President in (future year)". She describes the concept of a tesseract and goes on to use the word as a verb, to teaser. This concept is central to the book "A wrinkle in time". There are many things to understand about magnetic fields and consciousness. Most, if not all, of the hypercritical prejudgmental wannabe skeptics choke hard when they are caused to face the facts of the nature and structure of our consciousness and the physical systems that support it. If you want to get into examining your own consciousness you can start by examining sight and visual cognition. Try to wrap your head around how the optic nerve functions as it delivers the variations of the pitch and hue gathered in the little radial patches of rods and cones of the cornea. All that we see and know visually has been essentially created within our brains. Is it difficult to understand that 'reality', as we perceive it, is a product of the neurologically generated electromagnetic field that our consciousness is based in? That our consciousness is a non physical thing? An extreme state of detachment to all physical reality is desirable in development of cognitive perception. Don't bother yourself by becoming extremely attached to the idea of being detached. Understand how your own physical mind is attached to your consciousness and that you are more than physical.
Images within your mind have arrived there by various means so take time to examine them, internal to your own consciousness, with particular attention to dreams. The things you find should get you started on your journey. It is hard to walk away from your own personal knowledge in favor of the public views of a subject.

>>18234180
I really don't think so, no.

>>18234183
Yep, cathy was the first to coin 'monarch' and call it out as such. officially nothing with that name has been revealed. mk ultra is not technically monarch. but the name monarch has become ubiquitous anyway. I believe that, whether or not that is a real project's name, the symbol of the monarch butterfly is a real one that's used in programming, and it's sort of nice that the world refers to a broader range of projects, both speculative and informed, than mk ultra, which is synonymous with a specific program that is delineated as
1) no longer in use in any form
2) completely ineffectual
3) no longer of interest to relevant authorities
I don't think any of that is really true
And I believe a lot of declassification of mk ultra threw people off - before it was declassified thousands of records were burned. which begs the question of why declassify what remained at all.

really makes you think.

>>18226308
To answer your specific question, my own development was largely a natural result of exposure to persons in my life. I am not convinced that my mother was not somehow conditioned by earlier versions of these programs. To give an example of how my father's ability, I was in a large wholesale store with him and clearly heard him say " are you about ready to go, boy? " in his quick gruff military style. Although it sounded like he was standing right behind me, he was on the other side of the store more than 200 ft away. It also happened on occasion that when talking with his mother I would suddenly know what she was about to say, full paragraphs, in advance of them being spoken. On one occasion a kid in my 10th grade drafting class started flipping a Susan B Anthony dollar coin trying to get me to guess wrong. 47 times before the coin stuck sideways on the base of a desk, which would have been tails as I had guessed if it had fallen. At the time I considered it to be simply a matter of rhythm and proportion.

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>>18235491
thank you much for the info, anon. I think in fairness, whether you believe none, some, or all about the Project Monarch conspiracy, that anyone investigating and deciding for themselves should know about Cathy and where this all came started (along with everything that has followed and what others like her have reported since of course).

as for MKUltra, from what I understand the records were discovered (they weren't with the rest, but stored away somewhere when the order came down to destroy everything.) From there, didn't they become publicly available through a FOIA request? I'm in the dark about whether that's how it became "declassified" or if that was a separate process, and at what point it got to officials testifying about the program and when it ended and such.

Regardless, and to answer your question, 'why declassify what remained at all' - the suspicious theorist might conclude the destruction of other records supports the idea that there is more and worse going on (then and possibly now), more and worse than we could ever know... The devils advocate, and the optimist in me, however, has a theory that some awesome CIA secretary-type saw the opportunity to move the worst of the worst -or at least some of the worst- of the experimenting on record and hid it purposefully, in the hopes it wouldn't be destroyed and even revealed at some time... But then again, I'm a skeptical sort of conspiracy thinker (more interested in the theories themselves than all out believers in them. I love finding out what can be proved about certain theories and what can't, etc.)

If I get time today, I'll look into the history of the "declassifying" and get back. I know the thread will hit the archives by the weekend..
in fact, maybe some anon would be so kind as to start a new one when it does, and refer to this thread in it, and put together a post with it of all of our links and sources and stuff to read mentioned here.

>>18180992
>>18226157
>>18228319
>Do you know how to read? Can you understand sentences? It's all in the thread

that's uncalled for, honestly. Fact is, there is no info in this thread about this girl specifically or her story, none. I was curious and found a fringechan thread with her pic with an anon in it dropping info bombs on her - her disappearing and getting "snuffed", the type of programming she'd been under - but no sources or evidence of any kind for these claims, and the thread just ends before the anon talking about her concludes who did this to her (though they act as if they know and that her tattoos are evidence of it).
see for yourself:
>8ch ... fringe... 83957 - can't post the exact link, so try google, or search that original image and find the fringe thread maybe? damn spam filter

as for Katie Lue, if you want to contact her, her website with email and phone is easy to find. I'd post it, but I don't want to get a ban for posting a NSFW link. She shows up on other escort sites as well. Google image search that first pic or try "katie lue escort" oklahoma, dallas, etc.

Who knows if this is all RP or if this girl was really caught in something horrible and harmed by horrible people using mind control... I thought I'd post the info so if the other anon or anyone else who was curious like me could find out for themselves. I find the way the anon in the fringechan thread was withholding info and the "can't you read. it's all in the thread' + her photo being posted here with no name and no context a bit odd, myself.

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>>18235822
I actually would really like some context on this too...a link to more info or anything would be great. It's a little weird.

>>18235721
I was planning on starting a new one when this gets archived if there are no objections to that. somebody else is free to start it to. I just think there's a lot to talk about here and many links that the internet likes to bury and google sinks it all into the huge category of mind control which is basically a junkyard because it's so broad and full of evangelical Christians and disinfo.

Does this have anything to do with the gangstalkers? You can attack operators with black magic.

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>>18168455
I know I'm late to this party, but I figure this would be the best place to ask:

Been trying to find a physical copy of the Tavistock Institute book by Dr. Coleman, but it's like it fucking vanished. Anyone know a retailer or working pdf link?

>>18236515
http://famguardian.org/Publications/Shaping_The_Decline_Of_USA/Shaping_The_Decline_Of_USA-Coleman_John.pdf

No thanks necessary

>>18236235
I tried multiple times to post the 8ch (fringe) thread, but there was just no way to get through the spam filter here.
On a couple websites I found doing an image search on the pic (which you can do from this thread with the arrows in the post menu, or with a google image search add-on) that her name is Katie (Katie Lue). She was in (possibly from) Oklahoma, now it looks like she's an escort in Dallas. I found the other chan thread just a few links down when I did the google search of the pic of her posted here >>18180992

it's definitely a little weird... maybe one (or more) of us will be able to find out more for another thread

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>>18236238
Excellent! There are a lot of good links ITT for further reading beyond what OP posted. (btw, great job, OP! every thread should be started like this one - posting images, links, related info, anything to lead off the discussion and guide expectations...) Anyways,please do start us off if you can. I'll be a back-up; I'll make a thread myself if there isn't a new one posted in roughly 24hours after this one is done.
I'd love to put together all the links from this thread with lite descriptions for you but will need some sleep first. Maybe we could compile the further reading info online somewhere offsite, a google doc maybe? Like you said, researching this stuff is not easy!

btw, the Dave McGowan pieces I mentioned here >>18234131
can be found online here
>pdf-archive.com/2015/01/12/david-mcgowan-programmed-to-kill

and here
>netteandme.blogspot.com/2015/04/part-1-of-20-strange-but-mostly-true.html

I highly recommend reading the second, his "Weird Scenes Inside Laurel Canyon". It's not brought up often on /x/ as Programmed to Kill is, but definitely relevant to the discussion of CIA's history and mind control programs!

also, please (everyone) keep in mind as fabulous as a writer he was, we need to be stern about checking out details he provides in his work, investigate claims to their sources fully. Do be discerning and careful when he (oh so brilliantly) puts his circumstantial and sometime coincidental pieces together for you, especially when all you want to do is jump to a juicy conclusion... like I found out when I read the Pedophocracy chapter in PTK... trust me, it's tempting to fall in love McGowan as you read, he's that good. Keep your tinfoil hats on straight!

Unfortunately the brilliant and funny and brave and talented Mr. McGowan left us all not long ago. He was a smoker and died from lung cancer. Read more here -
>memoryholeblog.com/2015/11/24/a-great-man-taken-from-us

>>18236883
Perfect, sounds good. A google doc would be a great idea. I'm a little tired right now but I'm absolutely up for working on something like that. I need to fire up my other laptop because I have a mass dump of links there I didn't include here. I also have a huge library of pdfs on my computer I would love to upload somewhere for people to look at and access as a few are a bit rare. I'm not sure the best way to do that though.

>>18236883
>>18237528
okay so I started a google doc roughly, feel free to edit it and add some more stuff, I will probably later too

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e58rw_uulApyqezyzZm8qmAkwRWfvCl7JZHkIgE2Ju4/edit?usp=sharing

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>>18237528
I have a huge folder of x-related pdfs. many came from the same library (some mega upload site), but some gems added in from other places. The name of my folder is "X-files" of course.

that Mega upload site may be an option for us for sharing those. Seems easy enough to figure out, I've just never used it before.

Wish I wasn't so busy today.... very glad we can work together on this (especially into the next thread.) Thanks!

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>>18237974
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e58rw_uulApyqezyzZm8qmAkwRWfvCl7JZHkIgE2Ju4/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks so much for starting this. Just realized you're the OP. Awesome job, all around.

Despite the fact that I should have been doing any of a number of things I must accomplish today, I spent the last hour or so adding stuff to the doc. I'm inexperienced in working in google docs, so if you have any tips or suggestions or critiques, please do mention them to me here or in the doc.

>>18238842
That Hyperdimensional Art of War looks like a bunch of badly written fanfic

>>18238964
wasn't added by me so that's not a link I've familiarized myself with, yet.. (stuff I contributed is the 2nd page of the doc)

did you mean these?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_filadelfia_4.htm

hyperdimensional warfare
http://montalk.net/matrix/67/the-art-of-hyper-dimensional-war

Might have to put at the top of the list to look into first!

>>18239153
The Hyperdimensional warfare, not the one from bibliotecapleyades.

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>>18239213
all I can think of this the /his/ "Finno-Korean Hyper War" meme. Funny stuff. Completely obvious BS, made-up war that happened in imaginary places on Earth and Outer Space in like, 7000B.C. It involved Jackie Chan, Jedi knights, and a Tyrannosaurus Rex
>pic related


anyone else familiar with the links r/t Project Monarch ITT?
care to comment on what's good, what's not?
Contribute more?
Help us flush out the full story on MKUltra - what we know and how we know it. Like OP said, researching it online can be so complicated. Personally I've felt "lost before I started" when looking into it in the past.

see google doc link >>18237974