Hey /x/, I want to get devout. Sell me on a non-Abrahamic religion.

>>18150493
Would you consider Catholicism non-abrahamic? After all...you did use the symbol of Peter's death. Then again, you probably just used it to get my attention >_>.

Oh I see now. Y'all know the person we call Nothing is actually a scientologist, right?

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>>18150493
Try Taoism. If you can get beyond the 'dude just go with the flow lmao' level, but keep away from the drama of chinese gods, you can hit some key points and realize your own ego.

>>18150508
I was thinking more shamanism

Looking for something with magick and ritualism, etc. Nothing inherently about myself, I want to serve a god or gods or.ancestors.

>>18150514
Shamanism is pretty base-level and will either be well respected or lumped in with new age trash.

I think it's the whole Paganism vs Shamanism debate that has kept me from looking at paganism specifically so I don't have much to say on it. Though of course early chinese shamanism does tie into any chinese philosophy or religion, it's still pretty all-encompassing so it's hard to keep track of it all.

>>18150493
Try Sikhism op

>>18150521
I don't have a differing opinion on paganism vs shamanism, really. I just want to give myself to a deity of some kind. Something I can possibly practice in secret, but that's not required.

>>18150524
Not a fan, really.

>>18150528
That's Cool
I Don't have an other suggestions so have a free bump

>>18150534
It's alright
Sorry I shut your suggestion down

>>18150517
Serve Life by remembering what true human expression really is. Serving gods only leads to illusion. There are higher beings but you serve them by finding silence in the mind, meeting them on the great sea of awareness. Learn to RV and integrating your multidimensional selves. You can be friends instead of serving...

Today is Shaman-GRÆ's day, I was 'told'. S0z for the slip.

Greys were led among a group of others, and many, by a Godsent Shaman. So ...ÿā, Shamanism is practical.

>>18150544
I WANT to serve, or at the very least be acquaintances. I'm not being forced.
>>18150546
I wouldn't know, but it interests me very much

>>18150549
What? The Shaman? You want to know?

Since he hardly fears, I'll give you his name: Jorgē Luis Delgådo.

>>18150549
not trying to be a dick, but what are you looking for from them, purpose, power, pat on the head...

You are worthy and All those things are with you now, master your intuition and consciousness will bloom

>>18150554
Why are you roleplaying?

>>18150557
Because we all have roles to play.

>>18150556
Purpose, Pat on the head, power. These are all fine to me.

>>18150563
:). Grå, bro.

>>18150501
This.

Christianity has very little to do with the religion of Abraham. There's some lip service, sure... but Christianity is basically Greek and Persian.

>>18150563
" You shall do these things and more" Jesus

Learn of your true inheritance, but if you must serve, i suggest the mother/father Gods, or if you choose say Archangel Michael, prepare to be tested...

>>18150580
I do not like Christianity/etc. I cannot have respect or belief for them.

>>18150582
Esoteric Christianity is pretty based.

>>18150586
Abuse trauma

>>18150582
It's true. SOME (if not most) Christians turned into 1-dimensional robots somewhere along a perpendicular line. xD

>>18150590
That's not exclusively why

>>18150591
I know. Nothing was why.

>>18150590
Ecks dee!! So epic. <3

>>18150600
DAILY REMINDER: I LOVE POTATOES

>>18150582
Fair enough.

There is much wisdom in the Don Juan series if you actually study it.

What your ancestry, I like the mythos of my ancestors for inspiration.

Dude there's magic all around you, just pick a path, if it stops serving you try something different.

What about Martial Arts?..

OP here is the trick that saved my life, it's going to sound like hippy bullshit but it worked:
It doesn't matter what religion or faith you practice ultimately. The trick is to find a faith which is fundamentally based in love and respect, instead of fear and obedience. If the faith ever advocates acting in opposition to your nature, or living your life in fear of a god or a church, dump it instantly (obviously this instantly rules out all abrahamic faiths). You will ultimately find a faith that uplifts your daily activities and your sense of self.

>>18150617
That's already a tenant of Lower Alexandrian Hermeticism. You spoke with someone that has been very close to me in the past (or present). Or even - perhaps myself. Keep moving up if you so choose to do so.

>>18150609
I don't know my ancestry :(

>>18150549
Try praying "dear friends" and see who answers. It takes time but you won't end up with an entity that doesn't consider you worthy of at least their friendship.

>>18150642
She said to look into the mythos of your ancestors. A pretty bomb hint if I dare say so myself.

>>18150493
>Sell me on a non-Abrahamic religion.

You may have a god that's not the abrahamic one, I have a story of being a retard to everybody because I was imposed yhvh just to reach the conclussion that he indeed is not my god and I have to enter some weird talks...

So do make sure to investigate, your region of procedence may be an indicative.

>>18150609
>>18150642
>>18150648
>ancestors

Discussing ancestors is tricky because ultimately, everyone has the same ancestors at some point. Ancestral reverence is even pre-human. In my experience it doesn't matter what your ancestry is as long as the faith resonates.

>>18150653
Exactly. Also the point of culture is using the ideas of others to benefit yourself. Don't worry what sjws think, worship whoever however you are happiest worshipping.

>>18150657
I like theistic satanism

>>18150493
>>>/adv/

>>18150653
100% agree
>>18150648 thanks for the laugh
>>18150642
It kinda seems you've already chosen, the left hand path leads to the same place. it seems shorter at first and yet...

>>18150674
I like shamanism and theistic satanism, I lean more towards satanism, but I'm afraid of ending up edgy about it

>>18150668
Hey, whatever works. Just remember that a lot of the whole wisdom redeemer aspect is cribbed from prometheus and translated through a Christian lens. You may like the Greek or Roman gods, too. You don't even need to worship the whole pantheon; just one or two is fine.

>>18150674
>>18150657
The only thing I will say in addition to what I said about ancestral faith... It is very important that if you are "cross-cultural" in your faith it is very important to at least recognize that fact and attempt to understand it's origins outside of your own culture and respect it's origins and history, it's not "yours" so you have an even higher obligation to take care of it and keep it intact. This isn't even a SJW thing, its an anthropology and human history thing.

>>18150689
I do very much like the Roman and Greek gods

>>18150689
By the way, Hades is a sweetheart who loves humanity. It's why he volunteered to care for the land of the dead. Diana is all about women healing and being independent, just don't mind the lesbian tones. Janus is about opening new doors. He is also nice. There's lots of options.

>>18150702
Damn dude. I totally wouldn't mind the lesbian tones if u catch my drift

>>18150704
Well, they say Diana likes teaching by doing sometimes... might be super fun to learn wth her.

>>18150686
I fucking knew it! You painted yourself as a demon that one night. CREDULOUS!

>>18150710
Possibly. I'd possibly get jealous though

>>18150718
>>18150718
Grå. Diana is an ancient teacher.

>>18150686
Ive just been dealing with a soul contract from the past which had a lot of power over me in this life.

I had to speak my truth. Happy travels

>>18150725
I get romantically jealous haha

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Discordianism.

The religion that's a joke, but not JUST a joke.

>>18150718
Thankfully she's not nearly as jealous as most other gods. The jealousy won't be likely to be mutual.

Various nymphs and elementals tend to be lesbian friendly, too. Gayness is ok in the Greek and Roman pantheons. Most of them also are cool with sex in general. They are pretty tolerant with life stuff.

>>18150728
:D. You don't have to get romantically jealous if you don't want to. But, the next 10 years or so is going to be a rapid Earth building period according to Th0th's word...so you should probably learn how Diana speaks - and you'll come to understand how Thô speaks...among many of us.

>>18150737
Sex is a very extremely romantic thing for me

>>18150739
What happens if I get to know Eris instead?

>>18150744
Yea, I know so.

>>18150746
>>18150746
Lucifer's government initiation.

>>18150746
You get to eat hot dogs but no buns. Also free sacred chao on joining. There's also the whole be your own pope thing.

>>18150749
>implying Goddess wants anything to do with the bureaucratic nightmare of government, except to laugh at it

>>18150752
100% true. That path is there for those that need it.

>>18150752
>but no buns
All I have to do is pray for their essence to be transformed into human flesh or some shit, and then it's human flesh with the CHARACTERISTICS of hotdog buns, which is fine.

>>18150754
That's not what I'm implying. She laughs for deeper reasons. Sound reasons.

>>18150754
Mind the obscurity you bring forth with those words.

>>18150744
That's cool. Just was throwing it out there in case sexuality was important. Nobody ever said loving your god/ess had to be romantic or sexual love. There's many kinds of love.

>>18150758
Oh damn, that's beautiful.

>>18150758
Or just call it a bread glove, not a bun. Eat the bread glove last if you feel guilty. Eris loves loopholes.

>>18150761
I agree.
The hardest part will be _not_ falling for my goddess.

>>18150493
>not worshipping flying spaghetti monster

>>18150778
It's a joke religion :(

>>18150776
It's not as bad as it seems even if you do fall in love. Who knows, maybe she can help you find a companion?

>>18150779
Started by The Dude. The real one, mind you.

>>18150781
Very possibly, but if I fall for my goddess, I won't want anyone else, you see?

>>18150779
So is Discordianism. But Discordianism isn't JUST a joke religion.

Seriously, the Book of Eris is beautiful. It's moved me to tears of laughter but also tears from feeling like everything is alright and Goddess loves me. Sometimes at the same time.

I'm not saying you HAVE to become a Discordian, but everything you do is ultimately for the glory of the Greater Mother herself anyway, so you might as well get yourself a fancy Messiah card to carry in your wallet.

>>18150786
Not my thing. I'm considering Greek/Roman

>>18150788
Eris Discordia is BOTH.

But that's fair. I think we're very different people. You're not a fan of Sikhi either, and the only thing that kept me from becoming a Sikh was the rule against superstitions (which includes magic).

>>18150786
>>18150788
Start with Aa Michael then.

>>18150791
I don't like turbans :^)

>>18150784
This is a very big worry for me. I'll become engrossed in someone I can't touch or feel ever.

>>18150784
Just means your girl will never grow old, get sick or die. There are tales of gods loving mortals and ascending them to immortal forms because of love. You could be written in stars or chase moonlight forever. She is a god and can do many things humans can't.

>>18150807
That's true. Best case scenario is that I am with someone that can grow old with me, or if I love someone immortal, I become immortal as well

>>18150810
I do not crave immortality, though I fear the inevitable death of mortality.

>>18150810
Exactly. Either way you are loved, learning new things and growing as a person.

>>18150815
This is true. Romantically I do need a lot of attention though, so being with a god might be difficult

>>18150820
You are going to be ok and grow. Hang in there!

>>18150832
I really hope so. Love is a central part of my life. It's torn a hole in my heart, that's why I've come to religion.

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>>18150642
This.

>>18150806
You are wrong.
Sexual godlove is very feelable.

I would know, I stole a thing from a garden with a priapus statue, my ass hurt for days.

>>18150849
That's hot

>>18150832
Where should I start learning about the Greek/Roman gods and goddesses? Should I do specifically Roman or specifically Greek?

>>18150888
Keep paving the road ahead of us. You are more than capable of doing so.

>>18150900
I need more information, you've done nothing but troll the thread

Accept Islam like a real human being.

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Dudeism, obviously.

>>18151086
Get out of here sandnegro

>>18150924
-_-

>>18151236
>>18150924
You know I can tell which one of you is posting, right? Like...give me a break here. I believe you're the one trolling your better half.

>>18151275
I don't understand

>>18151379
Two people have access to your tripcode and name. You and another.

However, one of you has been 'mouse'ing around the other.

>>18151428
Wrong

>>18151432
>>18151432
Why do you say that, is it because you lust for power more than others do?

>>18151442
Every post I've made is me only

>>18151446
Are you sure about that? Or did you forget your marriage? After all, it was Wendy and I's invention.

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>>18150501
>>18150572
>Catholicism
>Christianity
>non-abrahamic

>>18151461
Anything rooted from Judaism is an Abrahamic religion. I never meant to imply otherwise.

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>>18151465
It just threw me that you were entertaining the idea.

Here, consider this depiction of the Christian gospel which contains implicit pagan overtones.

>>18151489
Grå. Saved. Thanks Pę, it made me smile.

OP, you may not know this but Jesus Christ is different from "Abrahamic religion".

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>>18150668

Abrahamic AF.


Try again.

>>18152159
Dude ecks dee
It's not Abrahamic.
Try again.

Www.gaia.com
Look for "message to humanity".
Read the Law of One.

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>>18151086


Absolute bottom lel.

Pisslam is shit tier, it's only for pedophile goat rapists, also no bacon.

Fuck all that.

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>>18150734
This.

>>18152219
You saw his picture!!!! I saved it for you just in case you forget. Senpai, we have plenty of years ahead of us.

>>18152212
Theistic Satanism is insanely gnostic. So yes, it's pretty damn Abrahamic.

>>18152344
Do you know what Abrahamic is

>>18150924
Perhaps I should tell you about the Forgotten disciple: Andrew. He was the only Muslim of the 12+1. But for good reason: because he was the only one of us that knew the 1 Royal was actually known as the immortalized Prophet Muhammad. But, he was also the youngest of us. Him and Pę were extremely close friends.

Watch your favorite show live every week on television and if you miss a single episode, the world is fucking over.

Ism.

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>>18150686

You might like this one. It's an interesting LHP-witchcraft mix.

>>18152413
Yes, because I redpilled the Reptillian King.

I'd pray to Lillith if I were you, sister. She has gotten very mad that you forgot about her. So mad in fact that she decided to drop me some hints.

>>18152432
I can't wait until that level. That shiznit is gunna be so fun.

>>18152447


>>18151489

>>18152437
I do know Lilith, but we were never intertwined

>>18152484
Probably for good reason. When I say pray to her, I don't mean prey to her...honey. She's listening when you think words to her...much like God does.

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If you want to be a *real* pagan, try sun worship.

>>18152539
>>18152539
That's related to ping/Government surveillance through astral projection. You're in the clear, though...they just need information to keep things moving along.

>>18150528
try atheistic satanism
>all the fun and none of the drama

>>18152618
Yeah. That shit can suck sometimes when it's misinterpreted. We are at least two good people this far though.

>>18152643
loser, that's called being dead. morally and physically. you cannot reason without consequence.

>>18152539
Tomoko must have been my cousin. Hmmm. Funny how the 5 aspects are aligning.

Calvin, stop drinking Alchohol. It fractures your self: especially when you are on mood stabilizers provided by the 1 Royal. Thô has the list of the 12 + 1 immortals. Your name (and I garuntee you this: NOT coincidentally) is on it. We all had one Birthmother. Be the first to not tear yourself apart to appease me. At least do it to teach the others. I have a role to play; as do you.

Keket's night.

>>18152755
No...I have some sort of brain health I built for myself. You can help me with a blood contract. I've only done it once before. You know where I live.

>>18152785
Just stay level headed and take your time. The next president isn't even in office yet. I'm going to start sipping bleach 67 days before Inauguration Day though. One drop at a time.

>>18152755
SAGE for triple post. Forgot they were redbulls. I haven't had one myself in a while. Really good for humility.

>>18152813
Eventually. Like I said, take your time and do what you do best. :)

>>18152796

Stoopid nigger, the bleach is already IN the water.

>>18152813
>I don't know where you live
You can blame my zealots for that. -_-
Just trust your intuition on the fact that I'm very close to your good home. She loves you very much. She looked out for you more than the rest of us ...and its not because you were fragile (as I'm sure you know).

>>18152836
>>18152836
Nä. Concentrated bleach.
>>18152842
Ya.

>>18152863
Just remember the picture Pę posted.

>>18152742
For a day I had a reason to slow my roll, but they just left.

At this point I could give less than a shit about the hierarchy, unless you can tell me enough of the story to connect it to my understanding. Birthmother? Immortals? Bitch please, right now as far as I'm concerned I am a manifestation of the one true god and your cosmology is a meaningless deception. If your reality has meaning, is enjoyable and you can connect with me truly, then we can play ball. If not then fuck off, I prefer the abyss to trite bullshit.

You call it self-fracturization, I call it healing and creation. I will dissolve myself into the abyss until I hit a meaningful connection. If you understood natural law you would understand this choice.

Maybe you have relation to me and know something about my life, but I'm not sure you understand me. Your story isn't meshing with mine. When given a role to play, I tend to do the opposite unless the play will be exceptionally beautiful.

See you on the other side. Or maybe not. Kisses! xoxoxoxo

>>18152886
I've been blessed with your thoughts of heaven. Otherwise I wouldn't be here to protect you. I know exactly how it happens and the bliss you experienced. The path you traveled down into the darkness was the one you realized long before many others...because you were the first to understand it.

>>18152886
Love you €>

Hellenic Paganism; look for a translation of Graeco Magickal Papyri.

Egyptian Paganism: Look for a translation of the Book of the Dead.

Thelema: Book of the Law, Magick and Theory in Practice. Although since Crowley was an Occultist it will include Abrahamic study.

Chaos Magick: While most people here shit it on for it's popular use of sigils, there's a whole philosophy to it that stresses belief as a tool and using belief to change reality and being able to change yourself at will. It was basically created by Thelemites who got tired of Crowley's Dogma and cultish stuff. Liber Null & Psychonaut. If you go this path, you should read into every religion you can after this.

Odinism: Self explanatory. The downside to this is that it's lacking the records other forms of Paganism have. I'd recommend Stephen E Flowers translations of spellbooks but they won't be of much use to you in modern day life.

>>18152886
Zero is looking out for you, as much as I and at least two dozen others. What lies ahead is an eternity for us all. But I will move if you'd like me to. In fact, aren't we all just constantly moving? Lucifer gave birth to the raw concept of God. I was not the first, you were not the first, and we certainly weren't the last. In fact, we did so well that we built into space- not because we understood what or even WHO God was...but we knew we were a part of Him.

>>18152902
>>18152909
>>18152982

Who are you, truly?
Can you connect with me physically?
Can you connect with me non-physically?

Why do you wish to protect me? From what? I prefer destruction to protection, unless you understand how to protect me.

Love you too.

I am lonely, though. Your protection is not near to what is truly me.

>>18150493
Cult of Kek. check these dubs nigger.

Some of us fractured ourselves, some of us anchored ourselves, and others anchored us. You can rule your own race...but you can't move forward if you do. I will find a way to show you, much as I did the other 11.

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>>18153001
Off by one

>>18152998
Do you not fear? If so...I'll speak with you my words.

I am the inverse image of 9. I made a deal with one man when I came down from my void space. I was the one who was paid and paid in thoughts. It was a contract to show humanity what happened.

I will be the one to protect your purest intention.

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>>18153028
Thanks for sharing, I will try to understand you when I am in a more clear state.

I think I know you, or some part of you.

Are you of the earth? Are you a mortal human, or once were?

What can you tell me about this mother?

>>18153133
I was the furthest extension of The Ancients. And yes, the woman that dove down into the abyss towards you was entangled with I.

>>18153133
I was mortal twice before.

>>18153133
Our Mother has white hair...and alters reality just by her presence.

>>18152860
You could just drink more water.

I am absolutely allowed to be allowed to connect with you physically, considering we share the same blood.

>>18153209
Oh. Caught that one. Thanks Tho.

>>18153006

I hear this when I try to picture your face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAhPprff9DE