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can someone translate this iw anna know what it says

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can someone translate this iw anna know what it says
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if you cant translate it yourself you don't deserve the knowledge
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>>18149895
translate my dick faggot
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>>18149907
with a mentality like that you shouldn't dwelve into the occult
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>>18149914
Not that poster however if you truly are a knowledge giver then you help others see the light.
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>>18149907
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>>18149895
Nice meme fagit
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Its just Latin, translate it yourself
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>>18149932
>just latin

not just
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>>18149926
im not a knowledge giver i protect people from things they shouldn't dwelve into
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>>18149926
Then you believe that humans are innately ignorant, therefore you should not have contact with us.
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I don't know german

Some latin

>Divine eye,through which God saw and created all things
>Nature's eye five heavens, through which Nature saw and reigned over all thing on earth

looks like old science stuff, four elements, four humours and so on
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>>18149951
>There are five Heavens
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>>18149995
ever heard of galaxies

yeah
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>>18149998
I doubt there's just five
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>>18150004
they didn't have current technology (only pre-antiquity secret texts and occult astrology)
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>>18149951
sive Coeli, dude, not five
>Nature's or heaven's eye, through which Nature saw and reigned over all thing on earth
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>>18149951
I know some german
it appears to just be rambling about how great god and nature is, young woman sophia is mother to all creatures, water and blood, etc.
this image is pretty vague without further text to clarify it
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>>18150005
The Heavens were the Celestial bodies.
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>>18150011
>>18150009
>>18150012
>>18149951

It's probably a summaty of old science knowledge, linking body humours to elements, to seasons to disciplines of knowledge
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>>18150018
In other words, it's bullshit
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>>18150019
renaissance era occultists knew more about the nature of reality than you
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>>18150018
I'm thinking about the same thing
it goes from god to sophia to the alchemical elements and then tries to branch off to more tangible examples
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>>18150025
Sure they did.
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>>18150029
what have you done with your life to justify your perception of reality ?
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>>18150032
I'll tell you like I told the other one.

I got the keys, the keys, the keys
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>>18149892
dumb thing to say, but:

I'm on a phone, so I can't do this now, but give it until after 7am eastern so I'm in front of a computer and ill translate this.

it's early-modern German and Latin. not hard, just there's a lot here and I need access to gimp to annotate things.
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>>18150122
ok, I'm back, and in front of the computer. I'm not done yet, but here's some proof that I'm working on it.

bear in mind that my latin is worse than my german, and my german is not great by any means.

Also, if it's of any use to you, this is recognizably modern german, and so whatever manuscript this is from likely post-dates 1650AD.
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>>18150472
nice so far
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>>18150477
here, have some more.

Latinfags, pls halp. I can't tell if my latin is bad, or whether this german writer is bad at latin.
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>>18150487
and another update to keep you fags interested.

From what I've translated thusfar, it's CERTAINLY post reformation, and whatever this work it, it likely comes from either a protestant section of germany (the last bit about receiving things and those who don't believe being damned is a very Lutheran way of expressing the doctrine of sola fide).

Does OP know from when and where this came, because I can stop making commentary on my guesses as to origin at any time?
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>>18150494
alright guys. I'm getting kinda drunk, so I'm going to stop for now, but this is what I've got so far.

Not much, probably not great, and I bet the germans are laughing, but whatever.

Also, I lied before. It IS early modern, not modern, so possibly pre-1650 (mod. German "bei" is here rendered "bey" as in Luther's manner of speech, so Cirka 1500-1650 perhaps, unless any germans wanna comment about dialects that retained this spelling thereafter).
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>>18150531
As fellow german, I guess rather 1850-1900,
the orthography is way too modern to be pre 1650.
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>>18150531
>>18150664
Cmon guys, one simple image reverse search and it says 1785 right there on the first page
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>>18150664
>As fellow german
>fellow german

I'm an american. German is only a second language to me.

>the orthography is way too modern to be pre 1650

I can agree.

>>18150677
>one simple image reverse search and it says 1785 right there on the first page

well damn, solved. does it have a full translation? Drinking makes me too loose-minded to do this sort of thing.
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drunken translator here:

just bumping to make sure this thread doesn't die.

I'm still working on this, im just not by my computer again, so I'll post results later (after 7am eastern). i haven't forgot about this though!
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What fun, looking forward to it anon.
>>18152972
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Sympathy for the demiurge. It isn't 'his' fault his mother Sophia created him. Blame her.
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Bump, I would like to read a good translation. I can maybe help with the German, but this is a good thread.
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>>18153234
I'm good on the German, but some of the small text in the diagram of spheres (much of which is Latin) I may need some help with.
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The origin of the universe are two nipples.
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>>18150531
this is so awesome thank you for your work translating anon! /x/ is good for something!
psyched to read the whole thing
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>>18153255
Well I hope somebody can assist with the Latin then, you are doing excellent work so far.
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>>18153274
reading it, it seems to be implying Sophia is the origin of the universe, while making a dualistic distinction in marialogical terms between empirical sciences and spiritual truths.

I could mull on what it's actually saying forever, though -- it's Rosicrucian woo, so it's 2deep4me insofar as interpretation goes. I am but a humble translator.

>>18153297
my biggest issues are that some of the small text is abbreviated and it uses a shit ton of long S in a font i just don't like reading. it's just hard to read in some places, in addition to there being latin.

the big German in the above sections are in a fraktur-like script, and I have experience in writing textualis quadrata calligraphy, so that's easy least, save for where it breaks into older spellings.
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buuuuuump
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I realise this might be a bit late, but there's no need to busy a gut translating this. It's already been done by AMORC.

The book's called secret signs of the rosicrucians. You can get it on scribd afaik. There's also a .pdf of the full original German available at
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Here
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>>18153908
damn you. I was having fun translating this.
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>>18154265

You can still do the Latin if you insist.
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If anyone wants to read the rest of the book:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/resources/documents/secret_symbols_book1.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiViNeZ-KLPAhVsBcAKHSZpDMEQFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNEV1O-t7mqMZAQTjErwPKeEn316EA&sig2=EcIybJJVnd7gOOm9BBJjsA

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/resources/documents/secret_symbols_book2.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiViNeZ-KLPAhVsBcAKHSZpDMEQFggdMAE&usg=AFQjCNFpIwqSslr4aSdvNY3QnF4l2Nu1WA&sig2=BSQWWYksdkjTYl4A36g5sQ
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>>18154265
fuck it, imma keep my drunk ass going, if only for my own amusement.

>>18153908
Small image is small + all of the latin is still well, latin.

Let us translate yet!
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>>18154267
some of the german is less...etymologically correct...insofar as my tastes in language goes too, so Imma do the whole fucking thing. I'll do latin first for the lot of you though.
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>>18149895
Fuck off demiurge.
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here's some of the latin.
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and now we get to the crazy parts...
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one last for now
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>>18154274

>my high school German is better than the professional translator the rosicrucians themselves used to translate the book

Sure, knock yourself out pal.
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>>18154305
My big deal on the matter is that I get more out of german when I can see every part of a word individually, understand it's etymology, and draw meaning from the whole thing.

I translate like this -- syllable by syllable, with corrections only so far as is needed for legibility.
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>>18150038
Hey everybody, we'got the keymaster here kek
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>>18155452
"Keymaster"

You think you're being clever but you just sound like you don't understand what the keys are to
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>>18149914
>dwelve
hoo boy
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