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Camped in Sedona, AZ over the weekend and stumbled across a "spiritual contact" center called Angel Valley. The place seemed abandoned but somehow well kept at the same time. We walked around to some of the newer looking buildings which were kind of like cabins. I checked the door on on of them and it was unlocked. I walked in and saw what looked like a nice hotel room with peoples shoes at the door with socks in them, a purse and wallet on the counter. This weirded me out a little bit so we walked around some more and found huge labyrinths and mazes with crystals in the middle. Sounds like your average "new age" retreat but what was unsettling is that there were literally ZERO people on site, and everything seemed to be new other than unkept grounds. After leaving Sedona and returning to Phoenix my girlfriend became obsessed and did extensive research, finding out that a lot of weird new agey, cult like activities happened out there (and still do according to their website) as well as a few deaths with sketchy details. Basically just wondering if anyone has any information or has heard of this place or the events that took place as well as anything deeper on this "James Ray" guy.
>inb4 TL;DR
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I live in Sedona bro. Where is this at?
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>>18143029
Lol Im out in Flagstaff and study at NAU. Took an indigenous studies class, I remember the professor talking about it and sounding legitimately angry for the first and only time.
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>>18143029
I freaking love Sedona. Never once have I got a creepy vibe from it. Plenty of smelly, new age hippies, sure, and elderly pottery collectors, but never anything sinister
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>>18143029
I really wouldn't worry about it. Sedona is fine.
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The scariest thing about Sedona is the occasional E. Coli outbreak at Slide Rock.

Well, that and having crazy teen friends who take those switchbacks between Sedona and Flagstaff at 50 mph.
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i worked at a metaphysical shop some years back and this woman (who I've never seen nor heard from again) held a seminar in the back room. she had all these crystals and drums out but she never used them. she was trying to recruit people for her cult in Sedona and she brought along two followers who were totally convinced that she had a special connection to the universe or something. they seemed happy but also totally deluded, all three of them. more sad than creepy
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I take it no one here is falling for the vortex thing, then.
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>>18143506
Deer Pass Rd I believe, off of the 89A
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>>18145345

I'm going to Flagstaff to go camping tomorrow! I'll maybe check it out and bring camera. If there is any interest.

However, it is supposed to Rain the next few days throughout AZ. So we will see.
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>>18145631

Also regarding spoopy Arizona, pic related. Twin Guns and Diablo Canyon. This is from 2 weeks ago.

Supposedly, the most violent & murder capital of the old west. Lots of early deaths & legends of buried outlaw gold.

I'm probably going to try to go here Wednesday. See what the rain washed up - buried things make it to the surface somehow after a much needed rain storm.
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>>18145631
Very interested, I would love to hear someone elses experience after knowing the history

>>18145642
I've read a lot about Diablo Canyon, was planning to make a trip soon. Let us know how it goes.
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>>18145631
Also interested
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OP here, totally ok with this being a general "Spoopy Arizona" thread.
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Jerome is the spoopiest in AZ
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Not the spookiest but some weird shit has happened around my house in mesa
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I saw a javalina eat a cat.
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I was longboarding to school when a pack of coyotes ran right in front of me, there were 5 or 6 of them
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>>18145631
Rain times are best for camping - much less forest fire danger. The downpours in monsoon season only last about a half hour and they hit int he afternoon. If you set up right you can weather them fine. Ask around about good places in the lava fields. We used to go out there, douse fallen trees in gas, then have a bonfire drinking fest. Good, naked times. Perhaps ask the college kids if they know of Twisted Sister. Tis a weirdly shaped pine tree to mark the road to our spot, but it might have been just small-circle-of-friends thing that never spread. That tree gave off a lot of good energy.

Last, go hike the lava tubes - they drop about 20 feet underground, then go horizontally for a good mile or two. Like a naturally-made, abandoned subway tunnel - fun place to get spoops.
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Hey OP im heading up to Sedona in a couple weeks, do you know exactly where it is
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>>18143029
Your lucky you weren't there with them. They'd probably cannibalise or forcibly convert you to their cult. Think Jonestown/Waco but worse bubbo
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>>18146049
>>18145345
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>>18143029
I live in flagstaff. Let me tell you something. Second just has the culty murdery vibe to it. An old ranching town in heavily forested mountains.
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>>18143029
I stayed in flagstaff once, it was nice but the leftist vibe was disgusting
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>>18146983
I blame NAU. Bunch of college kids mostly.

I wish half the town would just go away. The downtown area was nice though.

Not sure if the hippies came from NAU. My dad said that they were there when he went to college there almost 25 years ago.
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>>18146989
Flagstaff is bullshit. I live there. I deal at Cliff Castle casino in Camp Verde, and let me tell you the fucking traffic man. Nighttime isn't so bad when the city sleeps, but the town is so overpopulated thanks to the students it's ridiculous. Took the way through campus to get on 17 the first day of move in week. Big mistake. Also very tempted to shoot the shit with some Yavpai, dig into their spoops, but I always deal them out before I can fit any good conversation in.
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>>18146983
Two types in Flagstaff -
-rednecks and ranchers, very conservative, usually in the rural "suburbs" of Flagstaff.
-hippies and homeless, very liberal, stick to the actual "city" and the areas around campus

>>18146989
It is the college, but it's always been a big hippie/homeless draw. They come up in the summer to escape the Phoenix heat, then most of the homeless disappear back south for the winter.

>>18147019
The fact that Flagstaff basically shuts down after 8 pm is one of the worst things about the city. Everything good about Flagstaff is in the outside, natural world.

And it's your own fault trying to drive through campus on move-in day.
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>>18147055
You are indeed right, Brohenheim. It was my fault. But jesus fuck, I honestly did not expect them to shut down every single fucking traffic light, bring out all the rentacops and unpaid interns to manually (and shittily) hand direct traffic. Can confirm about the vagrancy. Nature here is lovely, but I am very uneasy woods walking after dark here, and it has nothing to do with hobos. Not sure why, just bad feels man.
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They also do dream quests ive been there a few times and its always like this the guy that runs it is either up in the hills or in town there should have been a number on the door if there is no one there
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>>18143029
Are you saying Sedona is full of Hailbop David Kuresh weirdos? that sucks cuz i wanted to visit this winter
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>>18147131
Make no mistake, it's a hipster new age bullshit city. That being said, the scenery is gorgeous. Don't talk to strangers, and don't take or drink anything offered for free.
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>>18145716
>>18145743
>>18145743

AZ Brah here, I'm heading out camping in Northern AZ tomorrow. I want to explore the crystal labyrinth, that's interesting and significant. I can't make it to Sedona until the way back - too many switch backs and it looks like crazy rain all over AZ (we seemingly can't drive in rain, myself included, we sperg out).

I have TONS of spoopy Arizona OC (folklore, myths, ghosts, crazy murder mysteries, some old transcripts) that I'm going to be dumping all October.

I challenge all AZ /x/philes to find cool stuff all October. Most of it has never really been explored.
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>>18146983
>>18146989
>>18147055

I love flagstaff!

Regarding ranchers & hippies you just described my family - old ranching family of cowboy Northern Arizona Democrats. haha awesome. I live in downtown phx though

>>18146016
I was at Lava River Cave last Tuesday, I was the only person I saw.

I forgot, near Two Guns, AZ there is the Apache Death Cave. I didn't find it when I took these pics last week. I will this time or die trying!

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>>18145716
>>18145743

Canyon Diablo is now a ghost town, but it was described as:


> Within its first year, the town received its first marshal. He was sworn in at 3:00pm, & buried at 8:00pm that same night.
>Five more town marshals would follow, the longest lasting one month, and all were killed in the line of duty.
> Main Street was "Hell Street"

the Tombstone Epitaph, described Canyon Diablo as
> "toughest Hellhole in the West,"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canyon_Diablo,_Arizona

There is a rarely told legend, 2 outlaws robbed a Wells Fargo stagecoach in Flagstaff. It was carrying silver (coins, bars - not a big deal b/c muh gold)

The outlaws headed East, buried the treasure in Canyon Diablo - travel faster etc. They headed to Prescott Valley.

Got drunk.
bragged about it.
Got killed.

One died of illness & old wounds, but whatevs.

They never went back to get the treasure.
No reports of anyone ever finding it or reporting it.
Silver may be there.

Also, the negative energy of all the murdered, drunks, addicts, & men suffering crazy mental illness.
I wonder if any restless spirits are there?

Did any of these sad forgotten souls hide their meager fortunes around that cursed town?

I wonder where all those bodies were buried?

These are some of the things I'd like to check out this week. I have good cameras & am getting either a GoPro or such.

TLDR: I'd like to get you all some interesting, unique OC.
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>>18147326
>>18145743
>>18145716
>>18145710
>>18146016
>>18146965


P.S. If I don't find anything great, I'll post some stories my uncles told me back in the day. One involves bells, the other involves beer cans.

Both stories involve...you guessed it...SKINWALKErS !

it's bad luck to say Skinwalkers true name...

yee naaldooshii

literally translates to “with it, he goes on all fours.”

i've heard some crazy small bits of info about Wupatki on the Navajo reservation. Pic related.

There are literally dozens of native ruins all along the Little Colorado River.

Back in the day, especially during the Great Depression i'm told, these ruins were looted unfortunately. Stuff was sold to tourists and such through the 1950s. Lots of bad history. I got a couple stories from old timers about extreme bad luck some grave robbers had.

My now deceased grandfather, who said he never participated, said the only rule back then was "don't touch the head. Leave the skull as it's found." i don't know the implications of this.
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Shoutout to my fellow sedona bros, didnt know there were so many on 4chang
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>>18147909
Mesa bros too
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