What is /x/ thoughts on collective consciousness and effecting

How do they measure these spikes in consciousness?

>>18124117
Take a sit son.

Where do you want to start?

>>18124121
They have a series of computers. Something about random number generators that get less random before events like Inside Job and the Paris attacks last year.

>>18124124
For starters, is this the "magic" of which our ancestors spoke? Like prayer, magic was meant to be done in groups. So would collective consciousness be the same thing?

/pol/ seems to be having a field day with applied memetics. And are turning into cult of Kek. Kinda same thing.

>>18124132
Shamanic beliefs, are rooted in a concept of the "whole", the axis mundis.

The earth doesn't belong to you, you belong to the earth.

This collective reality was denied by positivism, because it was directly opposed to the core principle of science, wich is humanism, the man as the measure of things.

Objective reality became observable objective reality, therefore the concept of a higher order or higher powers, beyond our observable universe became outdated and even dangerous.

All shamanic traditions include some kind of contact with the other wordly, the man and his totems, animism, etc..

The old belief, that this world is shared with the souls of everyone that ever lived.

Modern symbolic manipulation, takes from the old ways.

Old egyptian God, as a symbol, has a power on itself, given by the devotion and dedication of it's worshippers, you can use that leverage and use it to manipulate the current consciousness, the same way all of the occult religions have been doing since the edge of time.

So, collective consciousness and the old shamanic beliefs, are usually one and the same, Jung and freud studied old shamanic traditions, to come up with their respective theories.

Now, the main problem, it's what can you do with it.

>>18124180
>Now, the main problem, it's what can you do with it
This got me thinking about Voodoo. With Voodoo the targeted individual must believe in your ability to effect them, but with a group of people willing an effect it doesn't require the other party to believe in the collective abilities of the first party.
Now that the second party is noticing the effect in a particular case which I won't mention for fear of the band hammer, they seem scared and are panically doing damage controll. So does belief in the concept of "magic" or "prayer" in both parties intensify it's effect?

>>18124180
There is a state of things.

You have trends, you have cultural ethos, and lately we call them memes.

The minimal amount of information to be part of society, this are designed to answer the basic questions, who are you?, what are you doing here?

If the answer it's a straight white men in his 60's, you have a collection of cultural landmarks associated with it.

Same thing for every generation, same thing for every person on society.

Now you can manipulate those landmarks, if the landmark, it's a human beign, he can manipulate them himself, those will be used to make you do things, simple brand recognition.
You buy something because it was advertised correctly to you.

But you can change the meaning of those landmarks. And reverse the meaning, so you can reject something because it was advertised correctly to you.

That's how reverse pandering works.

They tell you, that you want something, and you don't want it anymore, because they "told" you.

>>18124232
Humans are social in nature, it's a biological imperative.

If a large number of people wish you harm, you will be most likely harmed, even if they don't touch you directly, cause your social enviroment it's manipulated.

>>18124158

that board needs a containment field before kek becomes any more powerful

>>18124129
The reason the numbers get less random is because of the sheer amount of spoofed and fabricated data that goes on before these major events. Let that sink in.