Mars never had civilization in the past and NASA isn't lying

>>18113013
Must've been a colony of ants

>>18113023
Bro, no offense bro, but seriously you need to heighten your vibration. Your densisty is thick and is waying you down in your own created reality.

>>18113036
I'm going to agree with this guy.

>>18113036
My question is why NASA, an alleged organization that stands for scientific advancement and exploration, would drive by or on some of these things and not take a closer look.

I mean seriously Google some of these:

Mars spider
Mars helmet
Mars skull

Yeah that thing with appendages or weird lookin turnup thing that's not worth checking our at all.

I would have thought /x/ would be more open about this shit. Isn't this the ghost and spirit forum? An old civilization on Mars is at least scientifically plausable.

>>18113036
wow. I making a joke because OP couldn't even be bothered to post a full size image.

>>18113056

Because the actual purpose of the organization is to be a real life discovery channel and entertain geeks with occasional "science" news, so that we'd be content with the impression that progress is being made.

While in reality, we already have a whole space fleet out there and permanently manned bases on the Moon, Mars and wherever.

>>18113056
>>18113072
any more proof beyond rocks that look like stuff, these are some bold claims you're making

it doesn't even have a surface. its a star. all planets are stars.

>>18113056
Well, we know Mars used to have an atmosphere, but that was a long time ago, as in billions of years ago.
Could there have been something? Yes, that's entirely plausible, Mars is technically in the Goldilocks Zone. However, whatever was there is long dead. After all, Mars has an atmosphere in name only now. It probably didn't used to be like that, but then the core cooled down, the Magnetic Field stopped working, and Solar Radiation fucked the planet up. And all that remains is a red, dead planet. Just another lifeless rock in space.

>>18113013
Way to use a tiny pic, retard.

>>18113158
>but that was a long time ago, as in billions of years ago.

This estimate is calculated based the assumption that the atmosphere was lost in a natural process, without internal or external influence. Which is mistaken.

>>18113063
Quality meme, my friend

Mars is where white people come from, then it were destroyed by global warming/war.
The whites escaped to earth and had sex with neanderthals and created humans.

>>18113056
>My question is why NASA, an alleged organization that stands for scientific advancement and exploration, would drive by or on some of these things and not take a closer look

because, like most sciences/scientists, they must do what the sponsors say.

>>18113567
fuck the whites!

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>>18113567
WE WAS ALIENS AND SHIT

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>>18113056
You do know that NASA is a part of the Federal Government, and like their parent organization, is hilariously prone to not knowing what the fuck they're doing, right? That, and making shitty propoganda.
Hell, most of their images are photoshopped so poorly, that even people with light exposure to photo-editing tools see all the silly shit they do to augment photos.

C'mon guys, quit jerking off to these space-trolls.

>>18113036
>being this fucking new

>>18113013
where's the actual full sized pic you idiot

>>18113013
must be a can of coke, I know they must be pretty rare in Devon islands but still a possibility

>>18113056
are you ready Neo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6IZUq6v92I

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>>18113036

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>>18113013
its connected to nibiru and chemtrails
and the black knight sattelite
and motherships flying around jupiter

>>18113013
we don't have a rover on mars. you really thing they landed a rover on a planet millions of miles away and can get almost real time images?

>>18115056
>almost real time
You mean hours apart

>>18113036
Again, go the fuck to bed tyler kalinin.
You didn't even get the shitty joke did you. Fuck sake.

>>18114410
Just because you can adjust the white balance to get the image on the right doesn't mean the scene actually looked like that.

Take a photo under a street light. You can see that everything is slightly orange because of the street light, and your image will show the same colours.
You can adjust the white balance to make it look like it was taken during the day, but that's not what the scene looked like.

>>18113149
>all planets are stars
Basically
>all people are autistic

>>18116272

All photos from other planets actually come BW and the colors are only added by NASA afterwards. Because including the color data would make the file sizes too large to transmit in any reasonable time. So you can't tell how it really looks on Mars.

So is there a bigger pic or what? I've seen thia a couple of times recently, shitty forced meme?

>Mars

>>18116407
Nope. The Curiosity rover has colour and black and white cameras. They need the colour data to learn about the soil and the rocks, so they can't just add their own colours later.

Most of the black and white images are from the navigation cameras because the rover doesn't need to see colour to navigate.

All those photos are staged, they were taken here on earth

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>>18116559
Source, evidence, burden of proof, etc

>be martian
>be moderately tech advanced
>spy Earth in sky
>mitebecool.jpeg
>science discovers that Mars is dying
>martian governments focus technology on space travel to explore Earth, like how we are starting to do the opposite
>Martians meet Earthlings
>slowly integrate into human tribal society
>build up cities
>try to remain separate at first, but that goes badly
>we martians now

It'd be cool to find ruins on mars that basically tells this story and the struggle of the martians left behind.

Too bad we don't have a backup planet, eh

>>18113023
Lmfao

>>18113013
Cool rocks, now the post the relevant image already.

>>18113056
>would drive by...

And yet we have pictures dont we?

>>18116999
why does this helmet look so smug

>>18117354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDk5mlas_fg

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>>18113013
eat shit and die faggot

>>18117057
Like any first contact scenario, the first question to be asked is this: can we fuck it?

>>18117263
those aren't rocks

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>>18113013

>>18113023
Kek

>>18114745
why is the guy in video blaming nasa when they are showing russian austronauts?

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>>18113013

>>18117057
We just need to make our own goddamn backup planet.

>>18119257
Cool. Post something that shows them not being rocks then.

You know that's really something that should have been done in the OP.

>>18117057
Might have happened, except the martians in this scenario would have been early microorganisms and the method of space travel would have been impact events kicking up debris that happened to land on earth.

Though given how old evidence of life on Earth is its far more likely that the reverse happened and if we find anything living on Mars that it would have been something that colonized from Earth, possibly recently on a spacecraft.

The things commonly pointed to as proof of life on Mars in pictures tend to be either debris from the space craft itself, or just people's pattern matching going wild. Of course if Nasa did suspect something was alive they might actually steer clear of it in order to try to minimize the chances of a colony of Martian microorganisms facing competition from bacteria that hitch hiked on the lander from Earth. That's why despite having evidence of flowing water on Mars today Nasa isn't going to send a lander there to look for life, the risk that we'll kill what we're looking for inadvertently.

>>18120889
Link to the original NASA published photos so that we can see them in full resolution.

>>18113125
I can't think of it off the top of my head, but I know there was a British guy that hacked the Pentagon and other shit and found reference to space agents; I don't remember the specific term. I'm sure someone here remembers better than I.

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>>18113013
>>18119301
>>18120866

People seem to think we've colonized the Solar System because we jumped on the moon. We know jack shit.

There could aliens on Mars and we wouldn't have a clue because its a big ass fucking planet. We've scoured the Earth for millenia and we still find new shit every day.

There is biological life in our solar system we just haven't found it yet due to its vast fucking scale.

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>>18123097
>There is biological life in our solar system we just haven't found it yet due to its vast fucking scale.
I agree.

We've found enough evidence to say that there was 'probably' life on Mars at some point (see pic, 1/3), and we know that on Earth at least there is not a single crevice on the entire planet so far as we've checked that life hasn't evolved to fill.

I suspect that if there was ever life on mars, then there still is, somewhere.

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>>18124476
(2/3)

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>>18124478
(3/3)

Pictures show microbial structures found on Earth compared against pictures from (I think) the Curiosity rover. It might not be Curiosity - that's just my memory of where I found these - but it's definitely a Mars rover.

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>>18113036
>waying

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nasa is the gate keeper , they are in charge of us never getting off this rock.

>>18124476
Fake, the bottom one is a ground texture from Dark Souls 3

>>18124888

That raises further questions.

Is Mars actually Dark Souls 3?

>>18113056
>Mars skull

Omg i googled that, it looks just like the skull i found in one of my dreams from before i knew about any of this, in this one i was looking through a dig site (on mars i guess, it was a desolate world)

It looked just like it the jaw part was wider than the top part and i remember it being very gorilla-like, my memory of it is fading now but i remember something else being peculiar about it, possibly double rows of teeth, memory is sketchy about that one

>>18124888
LOL I RECOGNISE THAT BULGE

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>>18124931
Whoa and what if Yharnam takes place on a S P A C E S H I P

>>18124888
[citation needed]

Literally, since I've had those pics saved since before Bloodborne was released, much less DS3.

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>>18126215
Rechecked the dates, I actually saved them a few months after Bloodborne. Still was shortly before DS3 was even announced.

>>18121410
Pretty sure he was Irish. His last name may have been mckinnen or something.

>>18114410
>blue skies on mars


wanna know how I know the "reality" picture is total bullshit?

Life is pretty common. Look at Earth, it's teeming with the cunt. All it takes is a few chemicals and bam amino acids.

The "we are alone" view exists purely because religion taught us we're special. Any logical person looking at Earth would conclude that life happening is pretty normal and not exclusive to the planet.

>>18117057
>Too bad we don't have a backup planet, eh
Venus

Your testicals are teeming with life. How did it get there? What does it live on?

Do they know they're living on a bollock?

>>18126344
Probably too cold, no protection from radiation etc

We're never leaving this planet. The nearest hospitable planet is probably Proxima B. It's only 20 years there if you travel 1/4 the speed of light.

Our best bet if the climate takes a nose dive would be to go underground or head for the moon. Underground moon base. We should stockpile food on the moon now for the future

>>18126360
>Probably too cold, no protection from radiation etc

Nope. Surface of Venus is scorching hot, but the upper atmosphere (where humanity will live) is a balmy 70° - and the atmosphere is thick enough to protect from radiation.

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>>18113013
>posts a thumbnail

>>18113334
And I bet you have conclusive proof for that claim, haven't you.

>>18120543
Why are you arguing with logic on /x/? Fucking shills.

>>18121410
He was literally autistic, anon. His name is Gary McKinnon and his retardedness was part of his defense against extradition

the civilization here is not under control and we are worried about other planets.

>>18126341
Life is pretty common on earth. Doesn't mean it has to be common everywhere else.

>>18126594
Life was created on Earth as a buffer.

>>18126360
The moon is literally made of cheese. We don't need to stockpile food there.

>>18113013
4K pictures Thanx mate

Look up "the first sun". Ancient cultures say that saturn are our first sun and ruled the sky (planets orbiting it. Saturn asociated with chronos (and lucifer, shiva and appollyon. Then zeus (jupiter) came and threw chronos (saturn) from the thrown. Jupiters gravitation threw planets out of saturns orbit and started orbiting our current sun (which saturn was orbiting already but too far away to be dietinguished from other stars. Past mars it will get hard to do so already) that explains why all planets are orbiting the sun in the same direction. Then maybe it wasnt an adteroid killing the dinosaurs, but the change of orbit. It gets dark and cold since it travels through the dark space. Big floods through the change of tides (a lot of cultures tell about one. The whole world bei g under water probably was exagerated, but still big areas would be flooded) Plants and dinosaurs die with a lot of other stuff. Civilizations from other planets probably werent so lucky like mars. We survived by chance. If you say people havent lived long enough to witness that, look up the oldest human evidences. Humanoid footprints being over 200 MILLION years old. Bellshaped metall objects with engravings, in a depth indicating they were allegedly about 2 BILLION years old.

made a thread about that archeological stuff and it got deleted. 2 times. Think of that what you want

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>>18126360
>Venus
>Too cold
Are you literally on drugs?

>>18125318
Underrated post

>>18113056
This. Also the camera equipment appears to be shit. There are cameras available that takes pictures where you can zoom in on a license plate from kilometers away. Those seem to be a bit better than an iphone camera. When you spent millions of dollars to sent a robot to a rock in space, bring good equipment god dammit

>>18113023
Fpbp

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>>18113056
Cause it's all fucking fake.

>>18126892

dude, flat earth theory is retarded.

>>18126917
It's so crazy that even after 800 years some Venetians are still unsure whether they live on a planet or a flying saucer

>>18126892
You realize NASA is not the only fucking spatial agency in the world don't you?

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>>18126984
Oh yeah we can always check out Reuters for the latest update in space

or I'll just phone up one of my indian friends and see if he's heard anything from their space program

>>18126984
I'm aware, are you aware that they are all in on it?

>>18126989
Don't deflect, you're talking about the earth not fucking mars.

>>18126892
You know flat earth theory started as a joke and then some schizophrenic tards ran with it... If you honestly believe you live on some disk floating In space then you need to step outside from time to time my friend..

>>18126924
> I believe what David Icke tells me...
k

>>18127006
Yeah let me just call up my buddy he's in the navy and he knows all about this kind of stuff, I'm sure he'll fill me in on the TRUTH

>>18127009
No it started becasuse one of the other planets in the solar system was destroyed and its inhabitants had to flee suddenly through portals which carried them to planets far across the galaxy, including some flat disc-like heavenly bodies which orbited around very small suns, or very large planets

The worst part is that they were forced to leave everything behind, and so they really had no means to tell where they were

>>18127009
What if mememagic accidently was used, and by acting like you believe you actually gave power to that idea, and even more power recieved from those who really believed so now we actually live in a flat earth because we memed it

>>18126892
>using the United Nations logo as evidence for a flat earth

The logo is what it is because it's the only way to represent a complete world map as a 2-d symbol without putting any one country in the center.

>>18126344
You realize Venus is the hottest planet in the solar system and its atmosphere is literally poison gas right?

>>18127525
Holy shit! you don't actually believe the bullshit NASA tells you do you?

You fucking dumb sheep

>>18113013
size of the fucking pic is about as large as your dick huh

>>18127531
You're an idiot.

>>18127525
Not poison gas, per se, just not breathable air.

>>18127525
Humanity would colonize the upper atmosphere, not the surface. They would need oxygen masks for venturing outside, as well as protective gear if an acid cloud is in the vicinity but other than that the pressure, temperature and gravity would be fine for a human being.

>>18114410

You know a blue sky on Mars is impossible, right? You know the reason the sky is blue on earth is because of the ocean, right?

>>18115056

>lol I know what kind of tech we have cause I'm smrt

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>>18128526
The sky on earth is blue because the higher frequency light rays from the sun are scattered by atmospheric gasses more than lower frequency light rays.

>>18113149
troll or nah?

>>18126649

Uh... but how do you account for Saturn not having the mass to combust, nor burning now? Also, the atmosphere is mostly heavier elements, and those only form in stars much larger than our own sun.

>>18121262

Holy shit. I'd never heard that before. Definitely makes sense, but where did you read that?

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>>18128575

Ok, so Mars still doesn't have a blue sky.

>>18128725

Not that guy, but the sky in the second picture isn't super blue, anyhow. It's sort of a greyish-blue color, and you can see it getting dark near the top, so it seems legit. The atmosphere there is mostly carbon dioxide, which is a pretty big chunk of our atmosphere, so it wouldn't surprise me if the atmosphere on mars looked somewhat similar, but less intense. I'm guessing the first picture just has something like window tinting to protect the optics in the device that took the picture.

>>18128694
Did-did you not take elementary school level science?

In the beginning before our sollar system, there was a large star. It exploded. Scattered dust particles slowly formed together. Then the largest mass formed the new yellow sun called Sol. It had left over matter that got stuck in it's gravitational pull and the dust circled around it and formed into planets.

>>18123097
I've always thought, what if we just dropped the rover off in a desert like place? Like deserts here on earth, I mean I bet you could drive an rc car with a gro pro on it for weeks in the rub' al Khali and not see a DAMN thing.

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>>18126892

Read a damn book, nigger.

>>18126892
I was just looking through a telescope at the planet saturn... pretty amazing sight to be honest senpai.

also it's pretty amazing how the illuminati managed to put their cgi in space like that

>>18126892

Well if some guy Shahzwar Bugti says it, it must be true.

>>18128526
>You know the reason the sky is blue on earth is because of the ocean, right?
Holy shit you still believe that dumb shit they teach in kindergarten?

>A clear cloudless day-time sky is blue because molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light. When we look towards the sun at sunset, we see red and orange colours because the blue light has been scattered out and away from the line of sight.

>>18113023
Top

>>18130216
There's also the fact that ozone gas has a faint blue tint.

>>18128840
Except for bugs and vegetation. Which are everywhere...

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>>18128842
>>18128842
>>18128842
That piece of shit was SURE the universe had to be geocentric
>dumb old shit thought he was the middle of existence. fuck him and your trash book you condescending fuck.

>>18126292
Is it because you're too young to remember the early pics NASA shared decades ago when they weren't photoshopping them?

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Selection bias. Out of the tens of thousands of rocks from thousands of pictures taken by the Mars rovers, there's bound to be some unusual rock formations, especially when you're using parts of images only a few pixels in size. Many of the rocks are small size too.

It's almost like you've never gone outside before and seen some actual rocks on Earth. Spooked by fucking rocks.

>>18126892

You idiot, you can see the spherical shape of the planets with a small backyard telescope. Observing Jupiter shows that it is a sphere, Jupiters day is 9 hours so you can see it in a single observing setting.

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>>18130848
delete your keyboard

>>18130809
Viking I had two cameras... a high resolution b&w camera and a low resolution color camera. The images they released were the high res b&w photos colorized by an artist based on the low res color photos.

This is basically what NASA does to almost all images it releases.

>>18113013
Guys, nasa is covering up. I can prove it by looking at these photos they make publicly available.

>>18113072
I believe this to be 100% true.

>>18130802
Bitch, Ptolemy was disproving flat earth faggots like 1900 years ago.

If all you know about him is that he was geocentric then you should basically just kys, fag.

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>>18116407
>the color data would make the file sizes too large

All i wanna know is why there are no stars in every fucking picture they have of space/moon/mars whatever.

>>18133482
It actually has to do with the camera lens and frequencies
Photography is not as simple as just snapping a picture

Professionals can spend hours adjusting the focus on their camera's lens so that the light hits it just so,
that only the essential light enters the lens, and the rest is reflected off

>>18133497
>Hours
What? Do you even photography, anon?

>>18133118
Yes, color images have larger file sizes than grayscale pictures and even with modern technology, you can send less of those than you can send BW images, or do you somehow disagree?

>>18133497
>i have no idea what i'm talking about

>>18133482
Light pollution. It's when there's so much light close by to you that it drowns out the light of the stars. You can see this for yourself in any city, go to a well lit parking lot in the middle of the night and look up. You'll see mostly black and the occasional satellite and particularly bright star.

>>18128852

I was just thinking this exact same thing.

I've spent hours trawling the sky with a pretty nice amateur telescope.

>>18129973
lol yeah, Shahzwar Bugti sounds like something you order at an Indian restaurant when you're feeling adventurous.

>>18130848

I too enjoy the idea that the world is not as it seems.

I recommend you read the Invisibles by Grant Morrison, and stop wasting your time with stupid shit like this.

Jesus Christ that ship is big enough to cover Florida and that man could stand on a major city.

I mean, seriously, the fucking proportions are that off and did you really believe it? Fuck me.

>>18126649
>...that explains why all planets are orbiting the sun in the same direction.

Holy shit, you're a magnificent retard at that! Or maybe it's due to the rotation of circumstellar disks that form around the ''newborn'' stars? Even so, Uranus and Venus have retrograde rotations.

>Humanoid footprints being over 200 MILLION years old.

You're probably thinking of elongated footprints left by resting Coelophysoids around the late Triassic, early Jurassic era. No, they are not humanoid you dense fuck, they are produced because the animal is resting on it's heels (contrary to the usual locomotion of theropod dinosaurs, which rests the body on the toes). Even a quick observation can tell they're not particularly humanoid, and definitely not primate of origin.

>Bellshaped metall objects with engravings, in a depth indicating they were allegedly about 2 BILLION years old.

I'd actually be pretty interested to see this, because I love OopArts. You're probably thinking of the Dorchester pot, which no, was never claimed to be about 2 BILLION years old.The sediment it was found in belongs to the Ediacaran period, which is around 600 million years old. Pretty fucking old, but barely a quarter way to 2 BILLION. And you realize, just because it is found IN the sediment doesn't mean it automatically belongs to that sediment right? Especially when the object looks suspiciously like a Victorian candlestick with decorated engravings indicative of an 19th century Indian trinket.

>>18133482
because they were made during the day

>>18133482
It's because the moon is much brighter than the stars in the background, so to expose for the moons surface they have to use a faster shutter speed which means the sensor doesn't capture enough light to expose the stars.

Imagine going to a brightly lit street at night, with lit up billboards and signs everywhere, and a lot of street lights.
If you take a photo to expose the street properly you won;t see any stars.
If you take a photo to expose the stars then the street will most likely be a white blob and overexposed.

>>18133497
You have literally no idea what you're talking about.

>Destroy Mars
>Destroy Venus
>now destroying Earth

T-thanks Whites

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>>18128512
how does one permanently stay in the upper atmosphere?

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>>18134440

>>18127158
A convenient story, senpai

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>>18130742
You didn't even try to use google, did you?

>>18130835
Worst attempt at discrediting the conscious thought of another human being, EVER! Your failed attempt at an argument in combination with that picture lines up in no way with your statement. You post a picture of rocks from Earth and yet there is no selection bias which makes any of us think that those are human skulls, petrified iguanas, statues, or anything remotely appearing to be an organic life-form or technology of any sort.

>>18134440
Balloons, you moron.

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>>18113023

>>18126422
too bad it rains concentrated sulfuric acid tho

>>18134406

Venus wasn't destroyed though. They evolved. They're living fire now. They're what Earth will be.

Don't get attached to your flesh.

>>18134487
not real
>>18134638
balloons lose gas and can easily be popped ya dip

>>18134724
>not real
You don't fucking say
>balloons lose gas and can easily be popped ya dip
And concrete dissolves in water and collapses under its own weight if not reinforced with metal. And yet.

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>>18134724
>not real

>>18114410
There can't be blue sky. Blue sky on earth are Made by oxygen in the atmosphere, wich Mars has none. Imho

>>18113023
10/10

>>18113072
So men in black are real? Cool

>>18114518
>implying
That's an iron pill, he's gone off the deep end.

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>>18113056
>mars spider
>mars helmet
>mars skull
Doomslayer's tomb discovery when?

>>18113063
I kekd to your joke as soon as i read it.

>>18126563
extinction could happen suddenly and without warning for countless reasons. Colonizing another planet doubles our chance of survival.
Besides, it's not like early explorers had 'solved' Europe before exploring the new world. It's in our blood to keep spreading. Like bacteria. Live a virus.

>>18114410
Just like our atmosphere is blue Mars atmosphere is red, retard, not a filter.

>>18128852
That never actually happened, the memory was planted in your brain.

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>>18128801
Actually solar system formed by means of gravitational collapse of interstellar molecular cloud.
You must've confused the creation of solar system with the big bang.

>>18136419
>Actually solar system formed by means of gravitational collapse of interstellar molecular cloud.
Which came from the remains of an exploding star. I repeat Anon's statement; did you not take elementary school science.

>>18113158
Mars was demolish because of space wars, its not really red its more of a browish/yellowish desert color, NASA edits the pictures so to it doesnt resemble a surface that was wreck with nuclear missiles. Also i am willing to bet it wasnt "billions" of years ago, it was probably more recently then that. Now, dont jump down my throat but for all we know there is still an atmosphere in mars and we are just being told differently to fit the agenda.

>>18113567
I think you're wrong ( or you're joking) i think white people are from venus I THINK

>>18124844
>Jewish

Yeah, no. Fuck you.

>>18133772
Holy Shit. This.

>>18126649
This person knows whats up.
There was a mechanical device that resembles a modern spark plug ( definitely not made by nature) it was embedded in a rock that turns out to be +1 million years. Most discovery that questions everything we were thought by the government gets taken away by the Smithsonian institution rather quiclky and its never seen again

>>18128801
"elementary school level science" is just another way to indoctrinate all of us

>>18136861
Another retard.

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>>18136825

>>18113567
>The whites escaped to earth and had sex with neanderthals and created humans.
Wrong color there buddy

>>18136861
[citation needed]

NASA isn't what NASA says it is.

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>>18136891
Drink from the fountain of knowledge my friend, educate yourself.

>>18128526
>You know a blue sky on Mars is impossible, right? You know the reason the sky is blue on earth is because of the ocean, right?

And these are the people that tell us we are wrong.

>>18136894
WE
WUZ
KANGZ

>>18136861
You remind me of my Great Uncle
He would always repeat anything he would watch on television and swore it was the truth....btw he couldnt live alone because he had the nental capacity of a 12 year old.
Im pretty much saying, you are fucking retarded if you believe that click bait shit

This stuff on mars shit is stupid because its just random images of our stuff. Yeah whats next a Gameboy is spotted? WOOO ALIENS...man you guys are fucking stupid.

>>18128852
"They" implanted the memory in your head, man. "They" want you to think you saw a planet, but all you saw was a projection, man. The moon is just a hologram projected onto the crystal shield that covers the Earth.

theres no air to breathe or water to drink on mars theres no food to eat either, theres no gravity, theres no trees and you cant start a fire there. there cant have been any people on mars its retarded dumbass jewishness to say that there could be Life there. its jews trying to sell more book and movies about aliens etc.

>>18126600
I actually read something once that stated Mars would be good for starting life, but not cultivating. And earth would be best for cultivating it not starting it. I came across this while reading about panspermia. Its an interesting theory I'd say.

>>18139661
Counterquestion: What exactly makes Mars better for starting life than Earth?

>>18113013
They found jpeg artefacts on Mars?

>>18139986
Oh yeah thousands of them.

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>>18121262
someone with rationality and common sense...on /x/?

jokes aside, I agree with you. this is probably the most sensible thing I've read in a mars thread in at least a year.

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>>18121262
Fuck them. The galaxy is our birthright. I want to claim it now.

>>18128535
>lol I know better because I watch the news and trust nasa

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>>18113036

>>18134751
Rekt

>>18134497
Sounds more like it's inconvenient for you

>>18113023
Da real mvp. Perfect 5/7

>>18139797
I don't recall the specifics, but I think it had something to do with its thin atmosphere being better suited to start bacterial life on account of the fact bateria thrives better in space than on earth. But again were talking about bacterial life, not mammalian life or something complex like that.

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>>18113023

found a bigger pic

>>18141166
>bateria thrives better in space than on earth.
I don't believe that's the case actually.

>>18141248
Did you just blow up the original one in MS Paint? Because that quality is absolutely abysmal.

>>18141438
pretty sure that was the joke

>>18141432
I would suggest you Google that shit then. It's not hard to learn stuff.

>>18141725
would be cooler for you to actually ellaborate on your controversal and seemingly silly claim tbqh

>>18141734
Why would you want to hear it from me when you could literally just google "bacteria in space" and learn all of the facts yourself? Its clear you have no interest in understanding my "controversal" and "silly" claim, you just want to shitpost.

>>18141771
Okay, I looked it up. It was, A) One species, and B) inside the warm, humid, oxygen-rich environment of the ISS.

>>18141771
I am actually interested in this topic and thought i would follow some experiments, but I dont think your very broad statement that "bacteria thrive better in space" holds much water. For one thing only a small percentage of bacteria we even know of was actually in space. And yes there are some, that can survive the radiation and the vacuum of space, they dont really thrive there nor are they a representation of all bacteria. There are also bacteria, which thrive better (in some aspects) in microgravity. But this was confirmed by some experiments made in the ISS. So the "atmosphere" they were in and the nutrition they got was still earth-like. And they also dont represent all bacteria.
So I actually would want it to hear it from you, as I dont know where you are coming from

>>18141808
>An attention-grabbing study from 2007 found that Salmonella, which you probably associate with food poisoning, becomes more virulent when grown on the ISS. The space-bred microbes were injected into mice back on Earth, and the mice promptly became sicker and succumbed more quickly.

>Last year, researchers found that Pseudomonas aeruginosa (below), a common bacteria that can cause infections grew faster and formed thicker aggregates of cells called biofilms. These biofilms also formed a bizarre "column-and-canopy" structure that it doesn't form on Earth. Other bacteria like E. coli and staph also grow better in space.

>But Bacillus safensis appeared to grow 60% better in space. B. safensis is no stranger to space travel either, having already hitchhiked on the Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity and Spirit in 2004.

Way to be a dumb cunt.

>>18141911
>citing something that completely agrees with him
>calling him a dumb cunt anyway
kind of bi-polar or something?

>>18141818
Sure not all bacteria grow better in space, but its been shown that microorganisms can live on the exterior of ISS, and of the 48 they tested in ISS none of them actually did any worse or died. So they either did about the same, or did better in a simulated environment.

So sure, my original comment was broad, I accept that, but there is lots of evidence and studies shown that my statement has factual backing. With that said, its by no means a stretch to assume that microorganisms could do just fine on Mars. I'll see if I can find the article I read about Mars being better for life than Earth, but this was some years ago.

>>18141929
>getting upset when evidence provided actually supports someones statement.
Some kind of incompetent shit or something?

>>18141939
but it didnt support your statement. it supported the statement of the guy you are calling a dumb cunt. that seems kind of ambivalent to me

>>18113056
nasa fabricated their own records of man made global warming. its possible that they are politically driven since funding and interests go hand in hand

>>18141954
How does it support his statement when he claims it was only one species when its shown that several do better? You're also ignoring the fact that its shown some organisms can survive the vacuum and radiation of space.

>>18141931
Yeah, that statement was very misleading. We can only make the conjecture that some bacteria could benefit from the lower gravity on mars (if still in earth-like air) and wouldnt instantaneous die from the conditions (if in mars atmosphere).
There is no reason to assume mars is better at sustaining any earth organism better than earth does. Esspecially not for the reason that "bacteria thrive better in space"

>>18141984
Notice how I said "I think". Also I never said Mars would be better at sustaining an Earth organism better than Earth. Try not to be so critical of someone statement especially after you're making erroneous assumptions yourself. That's why I suggested that the other poster look it up because I could have easily been incorrect seeing I was drawing this all from memory.

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>>18121410
gary mckinnon. he found references to 'fleet to fleet transfers' and 'no terrestrial officers'
Hes still to this day unable to visit relatives in scotland because he may yet end up getting extradited because of their slightly different laws.
Compare that we wont extradite gary, but are handing over another autist who hacked the us.

>>18113557
?

>>18136825
>Be Benjamin Franklin
>just flying my kite with a key, want to see if I can kill myself
>four score and seven...
>HOLY FUCK WHAT'S ARE THOSE LIGHTS AND LASERS AND EXPLOSIONS IN SPACE

>>18134497

'Because the earth is flat' is a convenient story for schizophrenics to believe

>>18140644

im a little late, but

A) dubs fucking confirmed
B) I've been saying this shit forever but no one understands

>>18141248
too big anon, too big

>>18141984
>Esspecially not for the reason that "bacteria thrive better in space"
Especially since the 'better in space' bacteria cited so far have been tested inside the ISS, which has an earth-like atmosphere, so the only thing that could be enhancing their growth is the microgravity.

>>18136891
why is that untrue? do you have de answer to everything on earth?
close yourself you arrogant motherfucker
dont want to se anything like this dont come to /x/ loser

>>18141248
u suk

>>18143911
It's untrue because there is literally 0 evidence for it.

>>18113056
what if the picture was taking from earth ?
>old fashion helmet ?
i mean why would there be a metal helmet on mars ?
i'd expect a different kind of helmet but not a 2 WW earth helmet or whatever

>>18113072
Or space isn't real

>>18113023
first post
best post

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>>18113056
most of the weird shit we see on Mars is people zooming into a couple pixels of a much larger photo and "sharpening" the image until it looks like whatever you want it to

>>18126360
>Venus

>too cold

>Store moon on the food

>Where no one can get to it

You're a high-level dipshit retard.

>>18141929
what he cited actually disagrees with the guy who said he "looked it up".

>>18141984
>Yeah, that statement was very misleading.

No it wasn't. You're being an overcritical cunt.

Your conjecture is misinformed, because Mars doesn't have anything close to Earth-like air. Mars' atmosphere is 96% carbon dioxide; Earth's atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, and 0.039% carbon dioxide.

>There is no reason to assume mars is better at sustaining any earth organism better than earth does.

What about engineered organisms? There are already projects working on genetically engineering microbial species to feed on an oxidized iron substrate. If they can survive a high carbon dioxide atmosphere, these organisms would thrive on Mars. If the genetically engineered microorganisms consumed carbon-dioxide for energy or, like plants, for structural sugars, they would thrive on Mars (the only prerequisite being that the microorganism can survive living on an oxidized iron substrate. There are totally natural microorganism species on Earth right now that consume carbon dioxide (Thiomicrospira crunogena) and iron ("iron bacteria").

>Esspecially not for the reason that "bacteria thrive better in space"

All cells develop differently when an environmental variable as omnipresent as gravity is canceled. For example, in higher pressure, cells grow larger. In lower pressure, cells grow smaller. In higher gravity, cells grow lower. In lower gravity, cells grow smaller.

On Mars, we can reason that cells would grow significantly smaller than they would on Earth. A smaller cell requires fewer material resources to reproduce; cell populations that live on an edible substrate (oxidized iron on Mars being a virtually infinite resource) can be expected to reproduce heavily. Reproducing is cheap, food is literally everywhere, and there's no competition.

Source: Masters degree in Biological Sciences

>>18140644
>>18142553
Ya'll are some galactic species supremacists.

Humans are honestly like vermin, too irresponsible and violent for the technology we have, ruining our only home and the only place in all of existence that we can comfortably live.

Alien species have FTL travel, detailed maps of every star system within 10,000 light years of their home planet, million-year-old civilizations, and bodies genetically engineered to perfection.

This notion that Humans will take over the galaxy in a wave of bloodshed is both hilariously naive and tragically characteristic. Our fantasies of violence, our dreams of conquering, of invading, of jihad, of total control over nature. This is just the Human ego masturbating to it's own self-aggrandizing dreams.

It's like a rat humping a mcdonalds toy, dreaming of the day it and all of its 20,000 friends and family can feast on the flesh of the upright hairless tailless cat people.

>>18128704
> Definitely makes sense, but where did you read that?

Not the guy you replied to, I'm >>18145744 this guy.

What he's describing are self-evident courses of action. It's well understood that cells can live and persist on the outside of spacecraft for months, and probably years, at a time. Pair this with the knowledge that absolute sterilization is impossible without destroying some of the more sensitive equipment on the rovers. Basically, it's more than reasonable to assume that the rovers have Earth life in the form of cells on their exterior. Working with this premise, it becomes the most responsible course of action to avoid getting near any potential source of Martian cellular life. This would include water sources, as well as items photographed in the rovers that might be masses of biological material (aka some kind of organism or collection of smaller organisms). Having the rovers approach these things, or worse, physically interfere with/touch them, as this would make the risk of infection and contamination a bajillion times higher.

>>18128840
It would be way cooler to make a deep-sea sub and start mapping the ocean floor. We don't know SKWAT about the oceans; a fleet of exploratory rovers would make discoveries every day, possibly re-writing what we think we know about the oceans. That shit would be amazing.

>>18113036
>waying

Everyone's lying about everything, anon. The President isn't truthful, the news isn't, celebrities aren't, your family members lie, etc.

Everyone has an agenda and everyone picks and chooses what they want to release to the people who listen to them, including NASA.

>>18126892
Flat Earth theory is the most retarded nonsense that could possibly ever exist.

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>>18125326
BLOODBORNE BROS UNITE!!!

alli have to say is. remnants of any civilization would be millions even 100 million plus. The fact is life may not be so special so it could have had a civilization, however due to the weather many of those rocks could have eroded in funny shapes due to billions of years of high speed sand storms.
i don't know if anyone ever saw an old anime about a dying planet and everyone dies but they shoot a biological missile or something to a young planet..

>>18114871
>Hitler was an atheist because he tipped his fedora

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>>18145449
How blind am I
my first thought was
>That's got to be fa..oh there's snake
Now I feel dumb, thanks

>>18146475
>hitler tipped his fedora because he was an atheist

>lurking the fuck out of this thread
>one guy trying to bait so fucking hard throughout

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>>18145789
>Humans are honestly like vermin
no they're actually

>Alien species have FTL travel, detailed maps of every star system within 10,000 light years of their home planet, million-year-old civilizations, and bodies genetically engineered to perfection.
like humans

source?

>It's like a rat humping a mcdonalds toy, dreaming of the day it and all of its 20,000 friends and family can feast on the flesh of the upright hairless tailless cat people.

humans made 100% of mcdonalds toys

>>18145815
stupid argument.

if this was true they never would have landed

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>>18113013
I still think it's Titan, Mars is something they destroyed. 666
End of creation
Saturn
Titan is 6th moon
Greeks vs Titans
Prometheus steals fire with a bush
The bible
Moses is greeted by a fiery bush, whatever it was, came from Titan, it has an atmosphere, water, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide, possibly oxygen

>>18149535
Also games, sega Saturn sonic collects rings and chaos emeralds
Emerald tablet chaos Greek god of creation
Emeralds chemical period table, space group six, hexagon. Saturn has a hexagon on it, Titan. Titanium alloy skeleton, terminators, alien promotheus is Titan, ITS ALL FUCKING TITAN!

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>>18149545
These cunts, the illuminati, worship fucking Titan!

>>18149551
The emerald tablet, is the philosophers stone for fucks sake, they own fucking everything. ? Random select. Now stop choosing fucking Mars, because that's total recall you faggots.

>>18149535
Zoom that in. What's in the top sections semi faded?

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>>18149535
More interesting than Mars skull.

>>18149578
Titan moustache dragon and half chameleon snake.

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>>18113013
http://lifeonmars.pub/articles/mars-thermonuclear-explosion/#more-34

Did someone say dead civilization on Mars.

>>18128526
fucking moron

What does it matter if Mars used to have a civilization or not? It clearly doesn't have one any more.

>>18113013
When did NASA completely rule out that Mars had a civilization in the past? All they did was collect samples and photographs then send them back. The point was to learn more about it, they said there are signs that they may have been water, which gives the possibility of life and thus civilization. These are illusions and image fragments. Mars was likely similar to earth in the past, this being millions of years though. Actual material evidence of a civilization would not be sitting on the surface of the planet, or intact.

>>18128526
It's because of the nitrogen in the atmosphere you fucking idiot.

I really like abbath's solo album, immortal ain't shit without em.. The one album he did "I - between two worlds" was a masterpiece and very underrated

>>18113036
I read this in Tommy Chong's voice and it sounded right.

>>18116381
It explains why the surface of the Earth is several million degrees.

>>18126917
Don't use the word "theory". It's not interchangeable with "made up shit".

>>18136877
Seems you skipped the grammar parts, too.

>>18126344
>Rains acid
We should send people like you there

I was thinking about this earlier.

My parents (born in '49 and '51) got to see the moon landing and moon walk. I'll probably get to see the Mars landing and Mars walk.

What a time to be alive.

>>18113056
>/x/
>open
>ever
The faggots here are worse than /pol/. This is top 5 worst boards for faggotry.

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>>18113023
>>18113036

>>18113023
I bet a bunch of newfriends are just replying to your post now because another said it was an old joke; I bet they don't even know what you were referring to, but their little brains crave a sense of belonging on an anonymous image board so they laugh anyway.

>>18128526
>because of the ocean

you sir are a moron

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>>18150033
>open means believing everything no matter how stupid

>>18149523
You truly are incompetent, if your logic were valid then nothing would ever get done. We have to take risks you stupid shit.

>>18134895
>the reason theres noone left on mars is because the Doomslayer have already been there
it all makes sense now

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>>18149635
Genuinely curious what I'm supposed to be looking at in the bottom photo and the top right.

>>18149795
*Oxygen

Nitrogen is colorless. Oxygen is blue.