Spoopy space

Just like your soul.. or lack thereof.

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>what would happen if you fell into a black hole

>>18058126
Aw hell naw

>>18058104
Zing.

There is nothing really to be scared about. Closest one to earth is several thousand light years away.

>>18058126
Cool

http://thefutureofourworld.ytmnd.com/

>>18058594
I think the scariest thing is that they exist at all. They're such an anomaly.

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>>18058126
Fuck ghost and demons this shit is real, and it terrifies me

>>18058667

Get high enough and you perceive yourself going through many black holes...

>>18058480
>>18058667
No need to worry. The gravity differential would turn you into spaghetti long before you would see that.

The Singularity is where God lives.

>>18058126
Do you fall out of the universe or something?

>>18059156
Black holes are so dense they bend spacetime into themselves, and we don't know what happens to any matter that passes the event horizon. For all intents and purposes, yes you do.

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>>18058126
That visual is inaccurate though. A black hole isn't even black. It's a singularity that in order to exist has to be either infinite or follows some law of physics that we haven't discovered yet.

The Event Horizon would make mincemeat out of you before you even reach the singularity alive, so you will never witness what the "black hole" really looks like. I would imagine, if you could see it, it would be like staring into infinity. Now that's a hard thing to imagine. It would be the ultimate head trip that's for sure.

>>18059213
yeah I think pretty much everyone realizes that when they think about it. It is a singularity. I guess it's the same way you can think about planetary orbits, they're obviously not as uniform as you visualize. You can catch normies out on this really eaily for some reason.

>>18058092
For you

>>18059527
If I pulled you past the event horizon would you die?

>>18059159
>>18059156
You die.

No such thing.

>>18059569
prove it

bump
also i went trough a black hole in no man's sky , i know about this shit

>>18059159
hell there could be a whole nother universe in there

>>18059777
Trips confirm multiverses exist

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>>18059159
the matter presumably gets deconstructed into simpler matter the closer you get to the singularity due to the distortion. rip and tear.

that being said, with the way spacetime curves around and into a black hole, if we could accomplish near lightspeed travel, black holes could be used in order to travel into the far future because of the massive time dialation. It would be even better if the orbit could be increased and decreased in incremental proximity to be able to frequently check up with the rest of the universe.

until closed timelike curves are proven accessible, there's time travel into the past yet though. we can dream

Space probably doesn't exist as we know it..

Gravity is bs aswell, its about density

>>18059804
but relative density is one of the key principles of gravitational theory?

>>18059808
I cant explain it to you cuz im pretty bad at english but i can try to find some1 wjo can

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>>18059808
>gravitational theory

>>18059795
Would something with an even stronger gravitational pull then a black hole break the fabric of space time then?

>>18059817
when he was referring to ether could he have meant dark matter/energy? I am unaware if they had been discovered at that point

>>18059819
As far as we know, 'spacetime', I.E. the 3-4 dimensional plane that our universe is situated in, can't exactly be broken or ripped in any sense. massive distortion, sure, but even singularities seem to abide by these laws.

>"In the general theory of relativity, .... the spacetime manifold is warped by the presence of matter. Gravitational collapse can give rise to singularities in the fabric of spacetime"

There are of course thought experiments and our current knowledge of the universe gives a possibility, but there's not much to go on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_censorship_hypothesis

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>>18059822
There is no dark matter.

>>18059819
Recent mathematical simulations propose that some parts of the universe is literally "melting", which might be a effect caused by black holes several times the size of super massive black holes.

Also, the biggest star we've found to date is so incredibly huge and powerful, that it doesn't fit into our laws of physics. Furthermore, when that thing goes hypernova it will punch a hole in the fabric of the universe, since the power it's going to emit is something that should in no way, shape or form be possible. When massive enough stars collapse, they make black holes. When this thing goes off, we cant even put into words or numbers what the end result is going to be.


If this is too much for you, smoke some weed and eat some mushrooms while meditating on this. You are going to freak the fuck out, might even kill yourself if you have no sitter to stop you, but I promise, you will no longer fear it. If anything, you will admire the beauty of a thing that shouldn't be, which is very much akin to the first true love you experience.

>>18059841
>Also, the biggest star we've found to date is so incredibly huge and powerful, that it doesn't fit into our laws of physics
What star are you referring to? Granted I've not done a lot of research, but as far as I can see, the biggest star we know of should follow a routine supernova.

UY Scuti for reference. Feel free to school me though.

Btw guys, satellites were invented by a sci-fi writer... that tells us how much we can trust the information nasa and others gives us.

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Nothing scarier than this black hole.

>>18059860
Kek

>>18059529
It would be extremely spaghettiffull

>>18059744
>prove that there is no god

>>18059819
a black hole already does

What if gravity was a dimension of space and not an actual force?

>>18060308
Just because it stems from the bending of space time, doesnt make it not a force

space isn't real

God is a shitty mapmaker and left glitches everwhere, that the engine doesn't know how to deal with

>>18059817
>Tesla explains spacetime
>Hollow Earthers misunderstand and make asses of themselves.

>>18059851
He's not referring to anything because he's talking out of his ass.

>>18059841

I'm not sure if anyone in your inner circle has told you this, but I promise - they have thought it.

You're a fucking faggot, dude.

>>18059841
You'd kill yourself without a "sitter"? Who the fuck has a "sitter", and how could you let yourself lose your mind? Fag.

>>18060685
OY WEY SHOT UP THE GOYIM CUNT KNOV

>>18059841
this sounds like a lot of hyperbole

>>18058092
They don't exist, black holes.

>>18059156
It's like falling off the edge of the world in a Unity game.

>>18058092
Op you need not fear the unknown, triumph in the glory that there is and will always be more to learn. Black holes are sorta the end-game planet within this plane of existence. They are the manifestation of entities coalescing into a point of infinity or in another way they are a spiritual mass so large and advanced that they breach the limits that have been set forth to nurture experience. They are the manifestation of us returning to god brother and they are beautiful and mysterious in so many ways.

>>18059817
>Lord Steven Christ

LOL that methhead is hilarious!!

>>18059838
Shit, got your Nobel prize yet?

>>18060281
9gag exists. /debate

>>18058672
Dude DRUGS LMBO

do u even know what is a singularity /x/

>>18062587
memes

>>18062587
it's like a one dimensional point of infinite mass, right?

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>>18059529
>>18060276

Keep that shit of this board fucking hell

Back to >>>>>>>>reddit fagets

>>18059795

Left is OPs dick.

In the middle is your dick.

Right is my dick.

>>18058641
They're really not, though.

>>18059149
Where does he go on holiday?

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>>18059841
Why do you say the things you say?

>>18058092
as a christian i always thought that the sun was a symbol of god for being in the center of the solar system, but then i thought that in the center of the galaxy there is a massive black hole. as a person who belive in symbolism of nature this thing is pretty creepy

>>18062617
infinite density

some mass occupying virtually a "point" in spacetime causes infinite density

>>18058126
Why does everything seem like a ripple or like some kind of superfluid in this perspective? I have heard that the universe "flows" and that spacetime is considered to be "foamy" in nature.

>>18064530
it's "foamy" due to fluctuations in energy in the vacuum.

>>18062583

>but stoners are the most obnoxious people

This meme needs to die. I shouldn't even pay attention to it but this shit is completely detrimental to any discussion.

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Yes, space can be a very spooky place...

>>18064542
>implying drugs have any place in this thread
in case you didn't notice its a fucking black hole thread, nobody gives a shit

>>18059841
>Also, the biggest star we've found to date is so incredibly huge and powerful, that it doesn't fit into our laws of physics. Furthermore, when that thing goes hypernova it will punch a hole in the fabric of the universe, since the power it's going to emit is something that should in no way, shape or form be possible. When massive enough stars collapse, they make black holes. When this thing goes off, we cant even put into words or numbers what the end result is going to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UY_Scuti

What the fuck are you talking about? It's not that mindbreaking of a star.

>>18058641
Not really.
They are just very massive things.
Anything greater than 3 solar masses is a black hole.

>>18064580
>Drugs don't have a place

On a paranormal board on 4chan? That's a bit of a retarded line to draw.

>>18058092
then you better never search for ''Goatse''

>>18059860
RIP in peace Harambe :(

>>18064550
>spinning uncontrollably till you die

This would be my all time fear as an astronaut

>>18062557
kek

What's truly creepy is how unimaginably insignificant and puny our existences are compared to these objects. It's literally beyond comprehension.

>>18064521
Just imagine being in there, billions of light years away from anything

Shit is scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn_wtGkjUMo

>>18064870
Imagine being one of the only stars in the center of the void on a planet with a civilization that exists there knowing that they are 1 billion light years from anyone else.

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Let's talk about the great attractor. Theories on what it could be? My theory is that it's literal center of the entire universe, and the original point of the big bang.

>>18064940
What if the universe is infinite and the galactic superstuctures are just part of a larger structure we have yet to understand from our limited perspective.

>>18059841
I wanted to believe you, it sounds cool, but you're just a faggot. Please provide some fucking proof or cite shit.

>>18064967
I wish people at scientific consortiums were this frank lol

>>18064906

They'd probably think they are the center of the universe

>>18064906
You mean.... the way people act already?

I m an fuck man you ever want to see the human race's intergalactic policy in microcosm?
>(assuming we survive long enough to establish contact)
Just spend an afternoon in Hollywood CA.
>my shit is the most important shit that has ever befallen any being ever.
>my opinions or trivial errands trump national security, the constitution, common decency, common sense and the laws of physics. I want them done now.
>I am literally a waste of space and a resource e consuming meat bag with absolutely no talents to offer anyone. Ever, not kidding when I say I would die without the system of yes men and peons who I pay other people's money to.

Not saying we're all like this but...let's face it. There's a reason nobody has contacted us yet and it mostly because humans are still acting like enormous, grade A, dicks.

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>>18063600
Zegama beach

>>18059159
I don't mind the explanation on through the wormhole, that states from your perspective you would fall into the black hole and pass the event horizon and get torn apart in a nanosecond or whateve. but if your friend watched that same fall into a black hole they would see you fall towards the black hole and you would get slower and slower as you approach the event horizon till you basically slow down so much you would pretty much be frozen in time. Making you both alive frozen in time and dead and torn apart at the same time

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>>18066128
>tfw Johnny never got to go to zegema beach
Damn bugs.

>>18059819
A black hole rips that layer of space. What is beyond that. No one knows.

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>>18064596
the star's radius the largest known of any star and approximately 1.7 times the size of the famous Betelgeuse. The star is so immense that if the Earth were the size of a 20 cm (8 in) diameter beach ball, the diameter of Jupiter would be about 2.1 m (7 ft), the Sun would be about 22 m (73 ft) in diameter (around the height of a 7-story office building), while UY Scuti would have a diameter of 38,000 m (125,000 ft), over four times the height of Mount Everest

>this gives me the willys

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>>18066181

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Let's take this away from black holes and stars, I wanna' talk to you guys about retrocausality.

as >>18059795 pointed out, closed timelike curves could be the solution to backwards time travel. I won't bore you with proper particle physics because:
>1. I don't understand them in their entirety
and
>2. That's pretty boring

But for now let's look at light cones and worldlines.

Basically, light cones are 'flashes of light' that a particle causes when it interacts with spacetime. From looking at a light cones of a singular event, you can understand the events that led up to it, and what events should succeed the current light cone. Because these events happen on a subatomic level, you can really only work this stuff out in retrospect, but that's besides the point.

Now, a worldline is the path a particle takes through our 4D universe. If you were to track the worldline of a particle, you could start at it's creation, and follow it through space and time to it's end, and seeing all the interactions it has in it's lifespan via lightcones. Once again, this is pretty hard to do out of controlled environments, as matter and energy are constantly at battle with other particles, so it's easy to get lost. But it can be done.

1/3

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>>18066359
Okay, so what does all of this have to do with time travel?

You know how einstein-rosen bridges (wormholes) are a hot debate? That's because they're not proven, just considered possible by our model of the universe. Of course at this point you could just ignore the rest of this post because it's based on guesswork (albeit educated). What I will not be talking about is time dialation sorrounding wormholes, or the properties and consequence of travelling through one, but rather the rarely mentioned side effect of wormholes. Closed timelike curves (CTC's).

In short, a closed time-like curve is a world line of an object in space-time that returns to a previous point it it's worldline, possibly even the beginning. Wormholes as dictated by spacetime, allow for these curves to occur naturally in space. How is this possible? Well, light cones (as abstract as they are) can be tilted on their 'time axis' by heavily warped spacetime, to a point that the object that is giving off these light cones, can sort of 'ignore' space, and seem to teleport across distance on the space axis. From an outside observer it would seem that the object had jumped into the future. This is where things get crazy. If the object's light cones keep tilting to such a degree that the worldline starts to head backwords in time, it can wrap back around to a point earlier in it's worldline. This object can interact with it's past self and not cause a paradox. Causality should be considered law.

2/3

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>>18066367
>So what does this all mean?

It means that a section of space can be used to travel backwords in time (albeit as dictated by causality).

There's even the possibility of a particle's causation existing in this curve, and that the particle then goes on to create itself, infinitely. This is known as retrocausality, and it has been witnissed in muted examples here on earth.

Up to this point the majority of what I've written is deemed plausible by various papers etc., google it, you'll get more in-depth studies and all that jazz than what I've put forward. But this is where thought experiments take over.

What would happen if you knocked the particle off course from it's worldline? What if a human was in a CTC worldline and he got knocked out of the curve as his lightcones were tilted back? There are dire consequences to this, as causality breaks down, and something that existed both in the past and future is suddenly unglued from the natural flow of time. If we were able to create CTC's on the fly, you could set a CTC to loop a certain section in spacetime, and then cause the object within that CTC to leave it when your worldline is heading backwords in time. Controlled backwards time travel! It could even prove the many worlds interpritation if it's possible.

I wasted way too much time writing this for an /x/ thread, but I thought it was interesting.

3/3

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>>18058092
Holy shit, now that's what i call a hole!
How can she even compete now?

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>>18066369
Nice but how does that relate to spaceships?

>>18066424
but it's a paradox because if you put the whole universe inside the whole then it's not a hp;e anymore it's like s shell because there would be nothing outside it to define it as a hole

>>18066461
maybe spaceships will be able to go back in time and give us spacefaing technology that lets us go there to travel back ad infinitum. you never know.

>>18059795
So you are implying that you can't go back to past?
Get a girlfriend then. Bitches love bringing up the past.

>>18059822
Most likely something like that. They definitely weren't known at the time.

>>18064521
This is bullshit, it's just a cloud.

Still, if you lived there the night sky would be completely black.

>>18058126
Not even once.

>>18062641
somebody get this hothead out of here

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>>18066181

just when i thought astrology was scary enough i see this shit....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdy6bfD9Fq4

Universe Sandbox is good at putting things in perspective.

What if black holes are just doors to alternate universes?

>>18067165
>astrology

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>>18066622
So what you are saying is aliums are actually us from the future and are slowly providing us with technology to advance ourselves so we can come back in time to advance ourselves

>>18067127

leave

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>>18067638

>>18067628
really makes you think

>>18058640
>http://thefutureofourworld.ytmnd.com/
powerful. thanks for sharing anon

>>18064603
So they're not really "holes" then?

>>18060276
you're a dense mass

>>18067836
for U niverse

>>18064603
>Anything greater than 3 solar masses is a black hole
I'm just gonna assume you wanted to say *could become

>>18058092
If you stick out your dingus near one it'll make it longer.

>>18064870
Peaceful.

>>18067836
Lol

>>18067013
Underrated

>>18067823
With space time collapsing into itself id be afraid to call it a sphere


It's a point in three dimensional space, but since I haven't explicitly seen it be described as a sphere I don't know what to call it

>>18066359
>>18066367
>>18066369
Much obliged for the insightful explanation. Kinda taken a back to learn something factual at /x/.

>>18058092
>space
>real
kek, for a paranormal board you guys reek of facebook retards

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Space is so beyond interesting to me. It's literally the only thing I look up in my spare time just to learn about it. But somethings just make me just speechless. For example, just to cross the Milky Way, it would take 100,000 Earth-years to get across, while going at the highest (known) speed in the universe, light. Yet, the Milky Way is just a microscopic speck in the size of the Universe. It just... scares, inspires, and bewilders me just to think about

I wouldnt mind sacrificing myself and get launched into a black hole to see what happens

>>18068386
you get crush, you really get launched onto it rather than into it

>>18068393
i like space

>>18059758
>I know about this shit because i played a shitty video game

>>18059841
Sounds cool, too bad you're talking out of your ass. You probably entertain your dumbass pothead friends well with your pseudo science though.

>>18059841
>literally "melting"
literally stopped reading

i think that we as humans are in a weird place right now.

we are technologically advanced and intelligent enough to understand a lot of things about the universe, but at the same time we know nothing that really matters at the end of the day. every significant scientific discovery just poses a million other questions that will probably never be answered within our lifetimes, if humanity ever finds a answers at all.

and that is really scary. at least average people likes us in the past had religion, we have nothing but weird complicated science shit that even our most intelligent contemporaries can't even really begin to explain.

What if black holes are some alien cloaking device/ defense system?

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Hide black hole posts.

Ignore black hole posters.

Do not reply to black hole posters.

>>18068660
ehehehe

>>18062641
>baneposting is related to reddit
fuck off, newfag

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>>18059869
No!
Keck...

Sagittarius A*
Supermassive Black Hole at the center of the Milky Way
Approx data:
Distance: 26 K ly
Mass: 4 M solar masses
Diameter: 40 M km

>pic: Orbits of prominent stars around Sag A* (1995-2010)
>A. Ghez, Keck Obsevatory, UCLA, et al

>>18058092
Is that creepy enough for you?

>>18064940

>original point of the big bang

There is no such place, that's not how it worked

>>18067136
imagine how many civilizations have been destroyed by this

>>18059159
Civilizations get so advanced technologically that they can travel to speeds faster than light and they choose to live close to black holes where time doesn't exist thus making them immortal while they can observe the universe. We sometimes focus on what we can see, with light, but light blinds us. We should start looking into the darkness.

>>18069023
>close to black holes where time doesn't exist thus making them immortal
The matter that makes up our biology and that of the ship's would still decay. Time is warped and the dialation makes it so time passes slower to an outside observer, sure. but that's not how it works.

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>>18068409

are you for real?

>>18060704
he should have hired a professional artists, fucker is so cheap

>>18059777

Technically, yes, but not really.

If a true singularity does exist, it's infinitely dense -- well, actually, infinitely everything. Don't take "infinite" for granted, because it's not something anyone can possible understand. Yeah, there could be a whole different universe in there, but not as far as you and I are concerned -- or anyone else within this universe. It's not somewhere you could conceivably go.

What I mean to say in TLDR terms is that you might as well say there could be a whole different universe in your mom's ass. It's equally likely. Anything *and nothing* is possible in something like a singularity. There could just be a single quarter in there.

>>18059213
You wouldn't "see" anything.
It's a nonsense question like "what if 1+1=3?"
It's a singularity. By the time you got close to it you would already be a part of the singularity yourself, and a singularity cannot experience as it's not alive.
So a black hole "really" looks exactly like it looks.

>>18069037
there's actually about tree fiddy inside of black holes

well it was about this time I noticed that god was about 8 stories tall and was a crustacean from the protozoic era

>>18064808
Life is as rare as a black, I would state that it is even much more complex than those big things.

>>18069030
if they are intelligent enough to travel faster than light, I suppose they could make an indestructible material, and then don't really have to be like us, make out of bones and flesh, there's a whole universe out there, and randomness will play its best cards

>>18069063
So what you're saying is you don't need to orbit the black hole at all. If you make materials and change biology to be immortal you don't need the black hole.

It's all about reference. If you orbit a black hole, time slows down yes, but only from an external view. Everything on the station by the black hole will pass like nothing has changed.

>>18069035

Cheap doesn't begin to cover it. Dude was so stingy he just let physics take care of everything. Nothing hand placed whatsoever.

>>18069068
That's a good point

>>18069078
chaos theory my ass. why do we praise this guy again?

>>18068325

upvoted

>>18059156
>>18059559

You wouldn't fall out the Universe, calling it a hole is a bit of a misnomer, its more like an incredibly strong gravity well.

And you wouldn't die either, not from the hole itself, at least not until the black hole is destroyed anyway.

Because time would stop. before it did though you might see a potentially infinite amount of years pass before your eyes.

>>18064940

The Great Attractor is actually the Xeelee ring, tunnelling a hole from our universe into another

This thread fucked me up senpai. I need to go watch something shallow and never go back here again.

>>18069044
>there's actually about tree fiddy inside of black holes

If it is a singularity, technically, it's infinitely possible that there is and isn't. On one hand, you could say there is since time is infinite and given enough time, there are infinite possibilities. On the other hand, infinity is infinite so you can't really say it exists because there is nothing to compare it to. So is there tree fiddy in there? not in any way we can define it as tree fiddy. Would someone spare that tree fiddy? Same deal, impossible to define. Infinity does not gel well with imagination.

>well it was about this time I noticed that god was about 8 stories tall and was a crustacean from the protozoic era

Likely not. The idea of God is indistinguishable from the idea of infinity. So, if God were about 8 stories tall and was a crustacean from the protozoic era, it would be God and not God at the same time -- exactly like Jesus. This is because if you could compress God to a finite form like that and still retain it's infinite qualities, you would have something that is not quite Godly and not quite un-Godly at the same time. So, whether you could still call this 8 stories tall crustacean from the protozoic era God is questionable (even if it really were God), but given our complete lack of ability to comprehend infinity, you could not with absolute certainty claim it was not God.

>>18069213
I like how much thought was put into a response to a south park joke.

>>18063026

Your dick is so tiny that not only has it collapsed in on itself, but it actively pulls in everything around it as well?

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>>18058126

>A black hole behaves like a simple tesseract

>>18059841
Even if you are speaking of UY Scuti. You are so very wrong. UY Scuti being compressed beyond its Schwarzchild radius wouldnt be all that big of a black hole.

I would like to point your attention to the Supermassive black holes at the centres of galaxies. So massive thst they could hold Billions of our suns. and so vast that their radius is Vastly bigger thsn thst of our solar system.

I am speaking of a black hole with a radius that is several orders of maginute largers than the largest stars we know.

It is unfathomably massive!

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>>18059758
>buying games made my shitty nofuns leftards and vocal sjws

>>18059213
There's a singularity at the very centre, but the event horizon can have gravity as weak as you like. The larger the black hole the weaker the surface gravity, and nothing "special" happens at the horizon, as per the equivalence principle.
There is nothing singular about the event horizon.

>>18059156
Black holes literally eliminate other directions. When you get deep enough forward, backward, up, down, left, right; all directions lead toward the center. Every bit of the blackness is the exact middle, if you look slightly above it, still the exact middle, turn around, still the exact middle, everywhere is the middle. It isn't just that you can't escape the gravity, even if you could there's nowhere for you to go. All directions lead further into the middle.

>>18068952
probably not even a single one. gallactic centre isnt a good place for life to evolve

>>18069177
>you wouldn't die

>>18069446
Isn't that just personal perspective of the observer being pulled in?

>>18069464
ever

potentially.

>>18069482
it would tear you apart, lisa

>>18059822
Ether theory was a competing scientific framework in his time.

The idea was that there were not particles, but everything traveled through a substance called the ether. Very cool stuff, and has some cool experiments that can be reproduced today, but ultimately flawed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether

>>18063767
but without that, the galaxy would crumble and desintegrate into the void. And all shall return back to that type of singularity at the end of time.
Symbolism+1.

>>18058694
this. when you get too close to a blackhole the gravity will pull unreasonably stronger on the side facing the blackhole then on the backside which will make your body get stretched a lot more than you would be comfortable with. and yes, spaghettification is really the scientific term

>>18069593

Theoretically only in a smaller black hole. With a radius large enough, spaghettification might not happen on a small body.

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if you fear black holes look up big rip. its one of the theories how the universe will end. it basically says that the expansion of the universe (we are already experiencing) will become faster and faster until the force holding everything together cant withstand anymore. at that moment simply spacetime itself will rip apart with lightspeed destroying everything. ans since it would be at lightspeed we wouldnt see it coming. we would be there now, and gone the next moment. maybe its already on its way

>>18069607
Big freeze is even scarier if you ask me.

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>>18069670
that was when entropy reached its maximum level and every place has the same amout of energy meaning there wont be happen anything anymore right? that doesnt scare me as much. we would see it comming when the enthropy advances more and more. would leave some time to prepare for the heatdeath mentally

>>18069260
>It is unfathomably massive!
So's your momma

>>18069729
Oh snap

>>18069741

nah

>>18069687
>would leave some time to prepare for the heatdeath mentally

why would you need to mentally prepare for it humans and life are going to be long gone by the time heat death happens, thats like a fundamental aspect of it

>>18069760
why is always everyone thinking we wont live long enough? i mean yes it goes downhill currently with humanity, but we arent extinct yet. and if we at sometime are able to colonize other planets it will become really hard to go extinct because no matter what happens, somewhere else will some human survive. i know at some point the conditions in all of the universe wont be suited for humanity anymore because of the enthropy, but i just gonna count that as point of the heatdeath hwne humanity cant survive anymore (after that it gets uninteresting for us either way)

>>18059841
i used to be afraid of space, especially black holes.
now that im older and under stand the raw power and intensity of space it blows my mind.

and then you talk about this shit and it gives me a boner

>>18069920
heatdeath occurs long after all matter is consumed by black holes though. It won't happen until the last black hole disperses.

man I would fuck a black hole if I could

>>18064959
Isn't this the case already? Look at matter on every scale, it's always part of a greater structure.
For all we know our entire universe is a building block for some giant aliens ballsack.

>>18069239
his cock was at one point so large, that it's own gravitational force turned it into a black hole, something so dense that it will suck in everything around it.

>>18071822
so you're saying he had a sex change?

>>18069493
So Ether would work in waves?
The thing is, there was an experiment showing that particles also travel in waves until they are observed, I don't remember the name of this experiment, but what if Telsa discovered the phenomena first, but due to a lack of understanding at the time, nobody came to this conclusion?

>>18071826
He was forced to, every time her got erect he would pass out from blood loss.

>>18069687
>fuck we are going to die soon
vs
>not existing and thus not experiencing death or the expectation of it

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>>18068242
But what if..
Tears in space time.

Go in one end, and out the other.. They say the universe is still expanding..

What if what ever is pulled into the black hole, is pushed back out in another place.. Explaining why every single planet, star ETC is spherical.

What if it's just spat out that way.. Like a melon baller?

I'm also very sober.

>>18071862
Let me correct myself a little bit too.

Granted, gravity and a constant rotation can spin something into a "ball."

It's just a thought.

>>18064940
It's nothing, just random movement of galaxies.

https://youtu.be/1T8dgMRl6Kg

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>>18071862
>Black Hole Utencil.jpg

>>18069607

I believe in a cyclic universe, so that doesn't scare me.

>>18071986
What does it matter to our miniscule lives anyway? Cyclical or not we'll never know. Of course this doesn't mean we can't question things, I'm not some depressing nihilist, but really, humanity may never know.

We should fear our own fate more than that of the universe.

Listen familia, black hoes aren't all that scary.

What's really frightening is that which you cannot see or understand.

Objects in space that do not consist of any conceivable characteristics to help us define them are the real villains.

Or did you really believe that humanity has identified everything there is to identify in our reality? Human technology and intelligence can only go so far.

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>>18072179
>Listen familia, black hoes aren't all that scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Yi58jtNdY

What the planets of the Solar System would look like if they were as close to us as the Moon. I've always found this incredibly unnerving

>>18059213
From a subjective point of view the event horizon is nothing special, it has no significance to an observer falling into the black hole. More, unless the black hole is of vast size, galactic mass or more, you'd be string long before you reached it.

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>>18069213
dammit Data

>>18071822
>his cock
>will suck in everything around it

in soviet russia...

anyone here know a good docu about black holes?

>>18071808

I would fuck anything that moves tbqh fampai

>>18072179

>black hoes aren't all that scary

For you

>>18067628

Fake and Gay

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>>18068325

upvoted

>>18058126
That made my legs feel like jelly. Same feeling I get when I look at vast expanses of sky/ocean.

>>18068660
Underrated.

>>18071988

I agree, but it's true of black holes as well. The sun will burn us out long before we ever go anywhere, assuming we don't kill ourselves long before then.

>>18069492
Kek'd

>>18072207

There's a far scarier video depicting the same thing better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY2jv4GWUhQ

Space is retarded to be scared of . there is nothing there.

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So apparently beings born in the far future won't be able to see anything but their own galaxy due to the expansion of the universe. Kind of spooky, but it makes me wonder what we might've missed out on ourselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL4yYHdDSWs

>>18062419
he's not trying to express his uniqueness, just sharing his knowledge

quit judging man

>>18073612
Everything is there

>>18069177
This is wrong. Sorry. [spoiler]Everything being discussed in this whole thread is pure speculation anyway. So you can be right[/spoiler]
Time doesn't "stop". It can move faster or slower, but never stop. You would be slowed down while approaching the Black Hole. But since everything around you is being slowed down you won't see time passing differently from you.
Also, yeah you will die. The Black Hole gravity is so strong it afects your atoms. The bottom part of every atom of your body will be "havier" than the top part. The Gracity will fuck you up in an atomic level until you become just another part of the black hole.

>>18069063
I suspect if AYY LMAOS figured out how to travel at light speed they probably also figured out how to make themselves immortal. Biological immortality seems significantly easier to achieve that light speed travel or FTL travel desu.

>>18059808
Its the Other way round, gravity is more akin to an optical illusion rather than a force the more dense an object is the more it bends space around it, if you put 4 marble on each corner of your Bed and stand in the middle the marbles roll towards you that's sort of what gravity is it draws things in not beacease it's a force but rather because a dense enough object creates a kind of funnel in space and the moments of objects towards the centre of that dense mass is called gravity

>>18059817
They disproved ether dumbass

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson–Morley_experiment

>>18060276
4u

>>18072179

You're right. You know what the scariest thing is? Our brain is capable of filtering out information which doesn't conform to our deepest anticipations and perceptions about reality.

Maybe there is stuff out there, but it just gets filtered out.

Everyone who has tripped on LSD knows how vivid and real hallucinations can be. But if your brain is capable of "creating" such real hallucinations, maybe it's capable of the opposite - blending out "useless" information or information which would unnecessarily burden our minds.

Just imagine a ticking clock. After a while the ticking is far back in your mind and you can barely perceive it if you don't focus.

Just ask yourself: Why do children have a LOT more nightmares than adults? Make the connection...

>>18069607
>The pitcure
Thats only a postit note size picture. It contains thousands upon thousands of galaxys with billions of stars within the galaxys.

>>18064940
You realize there is no real center of the universe....? Each and every part of the universe expanded at once, so technically every single point in the universe is the center of the universe.

>>18073846
Stop saying density. Say mass god damn fuckers. Volume doesn't matter here!

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>>18064521
A desert in space.

>>18064870
There are still galaxies in there, but they are probably so small that our detectors can't pick up the light from within. So still a milky way in there, you're still in a galaxy full of stars and shit.

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It's baffles me when people come into discussions like this citing scientific experiments and discoveries, actually believing that those are end-all be-all truths.

It seems ridiculous for us with our short history, looking out from this tiny rock to assume we're definitely correct in everything we've learned about mathematics, physics and space.

>>18068325
I legitimately thought that was a good, introspective post.

Have an upvote.

>>18073871
Shoulda said ragu

>>18059841
>things that's aren't the case
Nothing is too big or small so it couldn't be expressed in (complex) numbers, dumbass.
There's no star breaking rules of the universe (thanks for not giving a name, btw, makes you sound more legit). There are pretty massive objects in space, but things always follow pretty simple rules. If it looks too big to be a star as a star this size should collapse into itself, it's probably just a massive, already ignited nebula (from which stars form, btw) which will go straight to black whole, skipping the whole stardom. Or it's a black hole which has an orbiting ignited gas sphere around it. You wouldn't be able to see the black hole then but just big ass fireball

Also, of falling in love feels like that to you, may off the drugs for a while and get checked. Love shouldn't feel like a existential crisis into nihilism.

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I feel that this belongs here.

>>18074113
lmao what the fuck is this.

>>18074113
Classic Ramirez

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNDao7m41M

From OP's webm

>>18074113
i kek'd too much

>>18064603
>Anything greater than 3 solar masses is a black hole

This is false.

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>>18058092
what if I told you there are extremely lethal pulsars that just a gravitationally dangerous as blackholes.

flying rouge through outer space at over millions of km a sec.

sucking objects as it passes. possibly entire solar systems.

>black widow pulsars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlUoAaQF70M

pic is the actual photo showing its bow shock

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>>18068660
Fucking black holes

>>18064550

There's nobody in that suit btw, it was a planned experiment by Russia to see if old spacesuits could be repurposed as satellites.

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>>18066181
Actually it's comforting to me how big our Sun is. That light isn't going to go out any time soon.

>>18069173
>>18073055
>>18074015
>Reddit

Fuck off

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>>18058092
>>18058126
Makes you wonder, for example if a soul or ghost can be somehow measured or detected,my hat means that it is composed of energy of some kind.

This energy, like everything else in the universe, is subject to the laws of physics. If a soul were to fall into a black hole (which is nothing more than a super massive star with tremendous amounts of mass and gravity) that should would forever be trapped by the gravitational field.

It will never leave that place and instead it would b compressed and lose all shape or form. Would a soul trapped in a black hole be able to remember or act? Couldn't it be argued that a black hole could be a hell of some sorts? Forever in it and unable to ever leave for all of eternity or may be until the universe coalesces back into one again.

>>18073667
why do we even try to advance as a civilisation if it all ends anyway

>>18064596
>>18066181
>>18066197
>>18074930
>If placed at the center of the Solar System, its photosphere would at least engulf the orbit of Jupiter.

Man it takes Jupiter 12 Earth years to orbit our Sun.

That's a huge bitch!

>>18071831
You mean the double slit experiment?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment

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>>18073667
I've always wondered...what if we didn't try to expand and explore the universe but instead we found the universe within the tiniest of matter?

What if instead of going out, we went in?

>>18075420
You will find the exact same universe within as you would if you have gone out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/there-is-growing-evidence-that-our-universe-is-a-giant-hologram

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>>18065998
>Assuming other lifeforms have the same moral standard or views as this basement neckbeard that hates going out in public, or even an emotional reaction or emotions in general

>Critiques humans as a whole because "My shit is the most important shit" then assumes other beings have the same standards as him

If one could isolate the dense remaining neutron at the center of the event horizon from its gravity well and then drop it through the palm of your hand, what would it feel like? Would you feel anything? Would it just pass through the spaces in your atoms painlessly?

What if i hurl a big fart from here directly to the SKY?
The Earth would move (along with that moon ofc) by a big chunck like i say 1 meter from its axis or nat?
Just random guess you know.

>>18059855
>full retard: the post
>just another day on /x/
>I was only pretending, yea, that's it. Pretending.

Arthur C. Clarke was an physicist and mathematician who happened to enjoy writing. He wasn't the one to come up with the concept of geosynchronized orbital satellites, he was merely one contributor to the field. Probably the most important contributor, but it was certainly not a one man show.

>inb4 fanboi

I find his writing dull, and soulless. He could explain technical ideas in simple English extremely well. He could not create interesting characters and dialogue.

>>18074871
Holy Jesus fuck. Just look at that thing. Fuck everything else. Just look at that shit. It's like a fucking Super Saiyan is flying through space.

>>18075487
If other beings dont share his views, wouldnt that make him a special snowflake? You either acknowledge his uniqueness in thinking that way or you acknowledge that other people may think this way too.

>>18059213
It doesn't have to follow any law of anything, hence the term black

>>18064521
Cloaked super object, or said super object not visible with human eyes

>>18075420
we are doing both

>>18076016
pleb detected

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>>18064521
>it looks like a massive bird

>dat dumb picture

>>18058092

Don't worry. They don't exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lwup7WD15w

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>>18077660
>mfw LHC creates black holes every time it smashes atoms together
http://www.livescience.com/27811-creating-mini-black-holes.html
https://home.cern/about/physics/extra-dimensions-gravitons-and-tiny-black-holes

>>18063600
Ibiza

They say if you travel 2c time changes.

Ok then. What if i poop so hard that i make a mountain of poop that in half an hour i'm sitted on a so big bulk of shit that i Reach the SKY?

Will try that tomoz.

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Black holes are basically cosmic horrors. They're points of infinite gravity density, and the laws of the universe as we know break down inside them. Black holes are literally supernatural.

>>18075420
microcosm/macrocosm
as above so below
etc.

>>18078114
also we have no way of knowing or comprehending what they look like because they absorb all light within range. sounds awfully lovecraftian to me

>>18078114
>I watched a pop-sci video on YT and now know everything about black holes
Oh, hello Dunning-Kruger!

>>18077660
They do. Your video also doesnt say shit about their existence, you know that right?

>>18078008
It's a good thing they keep those tiny black holes tucked away in a box show any doubting Thomases. Oh wait! They don't.

http://phys.org/news/2015-03-mini-black-holes-lhc-parallel.html

"The LHC has already been trying to detect mini black holes, but has come up empty-handed. This is what would be expected if there are only four dimensions, since the energy required to produce black holes in four dimensions would be much larger (1019 GeV) than the energy that can be achieved at the LHC (14 TeV)."

>>18078148

"Your video also doesnt say shit about their existence, you know that right?"

It most certain does talk about their existence (or lack thereof). Don't lie and say it doesn't.

>>18077660
"I'm not talking about wether or not there are black holes. [...] I'm talking about the historical question: does..."

This plus the fact, that YT videos dont tend to have scientific merit makes my statement not a lie,

>>18062641
SOMEBODY GET THIS HOTHEAD OUTTA HERE!

>>18064615
Drugs aren't paranormal you stupid nigger. I hope you get arrested and raped in the ass by the entire prison.

>>18064625
lel

>>18068660
nice

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>>18078466
>since the energy required to produce black holes in four dimensions would be much larger (1019 GeV) than the energy that can be achieved at the LHC (14 TeV).
Pardon my ignorance.
Wouldn't 1019 GeV be 1.019 TeV?
Therefore doesn't the LHC have > 13 times the energy required.
Just sayin'

>>18079466
lol moron

>>18068866
Can you explain?

>>18079466

It's a formatting error. The anon meant 10 to the nineteenth power GeV.

>>18059838
dark matter is ether they changed the name for it.

>>18079495
nope

>>18058126
through the looking glass

>>18079481
big bang was just an expansion of space

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>>18078146

>>18079588
good point

>>18058092
Americans are still denser

>>18079630
Which is why the rest of the world is drawn to us and starts to become us.

You wish you had half the attractive power of super-dense Murrica.

>>18079630
ur mom has a scary black hole

>>18075369
Because it's not gonna end for a few billion years, so we gotta keep occupied with something in the mean time.

>>18067744 I worked on the aircraft, it was built at boeing south Carolina

>>18063600
gran canaria

>>18074912
Well? Can they!?!?

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>>18068660

>>180794

I could repeat myself I guess? Not being a dick, just not sure what you want me to clarify?

>>18064615
>On a paranormal board on 4chan?
A-Are you implying that's false?

>>18058092
I met a girl with the mass of seventeen trillion suns.

>>18064521
I hate this fucking pic, it's not a void, it's a molecular cloud, Barnard 68 to be exact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard_68

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>>18069243
my fucking brain trying to comprehend the loop

>>18080247
When she farted, did it have the force of a supernova?

Was it hot?

>>18080115
"I've never seen so many cross eyed people in one place"

>>18059841
>DUDE WEED LMAO

>>18072179
Anything that could potentially kill us is a villian, so basically anything in space.

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>>18072207

>>18079642
yes, i want to become a nigger

>>18080272

This anon is correct.

>>18066145
Just because your friend doesn't see the light emissions from your death doesn't mean that you don't die

>>18068582
That would imply that aliens are holding every galaxy (i.e. all matter) in the universe together. Its paradoxical because they would have needed someone or something to do this for them to ever be created in the first place.