Has this been Debunked yet?
I looked at the church and its creepy looking inside and outside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSUftIR1X64
>>18011400
pretty much anything paranormal about christianity has been a fraud, fake, con, etc.
If it's real, it's the first in a long list of bullshit after bullshit.
I.E not real.
>>18011441
t. Unbiased
Trust me stay away from religion nobody is going to save you you need to save your self
>>18011400
>Has this been Debunked yet?
>implying
Not sure desu, OP. If one were to fake this they'd need to cut out the eyes and stick their own within it like they do in portraits in movies.
But the body is 3D and it's probably in front of a lot of people during a sermon. On the other hand you could somehow animate eyes on it, even though I highly doubt that's the case since it doesn't look animated and it would probably require more skill than it's worth.
It doesn't look like the camera guy notices the eyes or was intentionally trying to capture the shot.
If you can find a track record of Mexican Catholics doctoring footages of 'miracles', then that might help you find your answer.
>Site manager and paranormal activity expert Ivan Escamilla says more than 20 specialists, as well as priests, had spent weeks analysing the clip and found no proof it had been doctored.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/statue-of-jesus-opens-its-eyes-in-miracle-which-has-left-priests-and-church-goers-in-shock/news-story/dee02044b5eac314cd54e3283bfcb083
So far even specialists could find no proof of it being doctored. I'm personally going to lean on the side that it's real.
>>18011441
>Said le leddit hat man
>>18011649
>Mexican
Confirmed for fake
>>18011441
Completely wrong, anon
>>18011649
>Not sure desu, OP. If one were to fake this they'd need to cut out the eyes and stick their own within it like they do in portraits in movies.
Or they could just paint eyes on him, no?
>Site manager and paranormal activity expert Ivan Escamilla says more than 20 specialists, as well as priests, had spent weeks analysing the clip and found no proof it had been doctored.
Thing is that people promoting some paranormal finding always "say" that it's been extensively studied and deemed undebunkable but there's seldom anything behind the claim.
It's just a statue with open eyes
>dumb christfags are actually going to buy into this
lel
that 4chan iq poll was right
>>18011649
>So far even specialists could find no proof of it being doctored. I'm personally going to lean on the side that it's real.
Yeah, those same "specialists" couldn't find any "proof" that the fucking bedsheet aliens popping up in peoples yards in Mexico were faked either. Until that guy 100% recreated the exact scene with a broom stick, wires, and a table cloth.
>>18011822
>Or they could just paint eyes on him, no?
In the footage nobody painted the eyes from open to shut and vice versa, this was even recorded during a live sermon.
>Thing is that people promoting some paranormal finding always "say" that it's been extensively studied and deemed undebunkable but there's seldom anything behind the claim.
It's possible, but I guess the claims of the site owner depend on his credibility.
>>18011840
I didn't know about any of that, maybe international specialists could take a look at it and speculate how it could have been doctored.
At the end of the day we don't know for a fact if it's real or not until we have some hard proof on either side.
>>18011941
At the end of the day, you're the most gullible retard in existence if you think a statue of jesus randomly opened its own eyes in a mexican shithole on it's own.
I'm usually keen to believe spooky shit, but this is downright retarded.
And these specialists you refer to usually turn out to be fucking hacks just vying for attention.
Jesus that thing is creepy, eyes opening aside it's literally a zombie Jesus.
>>18011840
Do you have a link to the debunk video? Sounds neat.
>>18011971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCkrgNoiqNQ
>>18011649
>>18011941
You are a retard.
>>18011649
The mandela effect
>>18011941
Where is this footage anyways?
>>18011400
fake but creepy asf
>>18011960
How exactly am I gullible because I speculated that it could be real? I've so far seen one video that does a good job at looking at it frame by frame and it does look pretty dodgy to me, but like I said we can't come to conclusions without hard evidence, but I'm leaning to it being fake with the new information/looking at it frame by frame.
My church has experienced some unexplainable stuff before and we haven't gone to the media about it any of it (and no, it's not some shitty Protestant church in the US).
Looks fake to me.
>>18012806
>it's not some shitty Protestant church in the US
So it's some dumb as fuck catholic retard church in bum fuck nowhere.
You're a retard.
>>18013703
>So it's some dumb as fuck catholic retard church in bum fuck nowhere.
No, not really. Nice try, though.
>You're a retard
Stay mad, kiddo.
>>18013833
>>18013833
>No, not really
So kinda
Stay retarded christard
>>18013840
>So kinda
"No" as in you're completely off. Enjoy your shit-tier fake churches though.
>>18011441
*tips*
>>18013891
>fake churches
Are you going to enlighten us as to what the correct denomination we should all follow?
>>18011400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCkrgNoiqNQ
Anyone who thinks this could be real is seriously retarded
How does a spirit make a statue have moving eyes, anyway? How does that fucking work? These kind of stories are stupid as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnao5SBunfI
>>18014116
you need to stop using reason in relation to the paranormal right the fuck now
>>18013972
There is only one Holy Mother Church. Come home.
>>18014188
Ghosts make some sort of sense. Alternate dimensions, angels, demons, aliens, cryptids, shadow beings, etc. all make a certain level of sense.
Statues opening their eyes? That shit don't make no sense.
>>18013972
For you guys, either Catholic (even though (((they))) elected an anti-pope) or Eastern Orthodox.
>>18014700
>Eastern Orthodox
Shit's fake bro.
Even priests from my local church say that's edited
>>18011400
Reminds me of those "Jesus crying blood" statues.
Now I'm on the side that say they're fake, but what leaves me thinking is "why do they need to go so far?"
Do they really feel the need to actually perform a "false witness" action by rigging their statues in order to ironically promote the faith?
And then I question how do they justify it because honestly they are actually breaking a rule in their own faith about lying (they probably think "if it'll convert more people or give them faith, then I'm sure it's okay")
But while we're on this sort of topic, what does /x/ think of the Shroud of Turin?
>>18011400
I suspect someone painted eyeballs on the eyelids.
>>18011649
>it's real.
You know what else is real?
Evil.
>>18016078
>what does /x/ think of the Shroud of Turin?
I have read a lot of it and personally think is real, or at least in the sense it was used to bury a real guy that got crucified 2000 years ago.
Is he the same guy the Bible talks about? Maybe. that guy's friends and relatives probably saw the image on the shroud and started to think he was actually the son of God, the Messiah or something like that and then started writing about him and making up shit about him too. Then in the early middle ages someone found it again and went crazy and a shit ton of artists started drawing Jesus like the guy on the Shourd.
>>18011400
That picture (moreso the thumbnail) reminded me of Enchantress.
That Jeebus is spoopy.
>>18011649
>On the other hand you could somehow animate eyes on it, even though I highly doubt that's the case since it doesn't look animated and it would probably require more skill than it's worth
It's basic entry level after effects shit.
>People who desperately want the paranormal and religious "miracles" to be true claimed it was real and not doctored
Wow, no fucking surprise there!
See, I have told you ahead of time.
"So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the wilderness,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.
>>18014003
/thead
is there no righteousness left on earth that i should be reading this shite today?
the cycles continues... the persecution of the man who was who He says He was continues....
the Messiah of the Jews came, and they loved something else more than the fulfillment of their God....
i think that this cycle continues and it is a great tragedy over all the face of the earth
The voyce sayd; Cry. And hee sayd; What shall I cry? All flesh is grasse, and all the goodlinesse thereof is as the flowre of the field.
7 The grasse withereth, the flowre fadeth; because the spirit of the Lord bloweth upon it: surely the people is grasse.
8 The grasse withereth, the flowre fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
There's a reason the scriptures warn you to do away with the worshipping of statues. Demons can possess these objects and do all kinds of weird shit with it. The possession of dolls is another thing. There were several cases of possessed dolls that would terrorize or haunt the family in the house that it lived in.
>>18011441
>he doesn't know the Church has an entire department dedicated to disproving or proving claims of miracles,saints and supernatural events
>he doesn't know inside the Vatican are quarters for each scientific field.
>>18011400
Where's the church location? any more videos?
I guarantee the Vatican investigations group would be on their way there right now(if not already there), if there is any amount of truth to this of course.
>>18011649
I heard on the news that it was fake...guess I'll keep reading about the links...
Jesus does not exist. He's a rippoff of the Egyptian god Horus. Mary is actually Isis.
>>18019995
>>18019995
or maybe the fact that the story is older than Christianity hints at a truth rather than a fiction.
>>18019676
The Vatican refused to even examine the video.
>>18020011
The hint of truth is that both are anthropomorphic personifications of the sun.
>>18020662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFca32_7YUU
>>18019995
That has been debunked a lot of times too.
Oh it happened while it was being recorded, how convenient.
>>18013840
>>18013703
Why are you so angry? Calm down man
please tell me /x/ hasn't sunk this low
Jesus, christians are dumb as fuck.
Especially mexicunt ones.
bullshit, creepy as fuck tho
>>18019995
>info from zeitgeist
its been debunked.
Fake or real, that shit is creepy