Lucid Dreaming

>>17940450

I have actually been wondering the same. Can someone who lucid dreams explain this?

It takes practice, like everything else.

Your brain naturally scrubs out dream memories. Even the most terrifying nightmare eventually fades or becomes more like a recollection of a recollection, if that makes sense. It's why keeping a journal is absolutely essential for any kind of dream work.

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>>17940893

Lucid Dream is nothing like this. Lucid Dream is just stupid simple: you, awake, in spirit form.

And if yoou can be awake in spirit form you will be able to see and interact in the Spirit Realm.

So, Lucid Dream is not a "place" for you to try to build a parallel life. Its the real life. The Material Realm (where we are incarnated) is only a limited part of the real Realm (the Spiritual Realm).

>>17941244
I seriously wish you were around before EVERYONE was saying its TOTALLY fine to rape woman. And suck man cock. (pretty much everything youd want to do no restrictions.)

>>Be me In dream. Check hands.
>> 7 fingers fuck yes.
>>Its dark. Looks like small shops all around. I walk in a pub (not really pub) shop
>>Venture around and see a woman in the bathroom (urinals everywhere idk what she was doing there-not cleaning just standing still) through a circular windowed door. I walk in
>> lock the door behind me
>>pull her pants down and while i start their are two people that were mad at me trying to open the door
>>Shove my cock in her like a mad man and fuck fuck fuck away
>>Pussy feels so good
>>Hnnng.jpeg
>>They break door both come at me right before they grab me i wake up.

It felt..so real. I thought holy fuck.. What if they were real and had the power to vanquish me out?

>>17940450
Yes. Dreamscapes are common among lucids.

I've had vivid and lucid dreams that I still remember because I chose to write them down. A lot deal with my ex girlfriend and just thinking about it gives me a rush of emotions.

I truly believe you can do this. I felt more emotion in my dreams/waking up than I have in real life.

>>17941865

>miss ex
>get better girlfriend in real world
>stay with ex in dream world
>cheat without cheating
>two girlfriends to fuck
>?????
>profit

>>17941865
Have you ever called for your spirit guide within a lucid dream or summoned a pagen god?

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>>17941880
Closest I got to lucid dreaming was to realize I was sleeping because Snoop Dog giving me a pair of UFC gloves to fight Tom Cruise in a football stadium filled with spectators seemed a bit weird to actually be happening irl... Hopefully if i keep trying and recording my dreams i will eventually summon people one day :/

>>17940450
You'r living in it as you read this.

>>17941949
stop it, pls, don;t fuck with my head

>>17941827

Last go with a "fast course" of action. I will try to explain all things in a short way, but all this information you all can have access for free on the Internet. You don't need to enter any "secret society" or (worst) pay for this kind of information (the truth):

Everything you do in your "dream state" you are doing it in your real life. We are all immortal souls that in some point incarnate in planets like Earth to learn. And Earth is still a kindergarten-like planet where all kind of souls come to incarnate and learn.Ans many of the souls incarnated here on Earth came from other planets that evolve to be a better place than Earth. And these souls doesn't reach the "minimal points" required to advance to another level (and stay in the same planet evolving, or better, go to another better planet to incarnate).

LEARN THE HARD WAY

Learn incarnated is like training in some kind of a intensive way (a poor analogy would be the gravity training room from dragon ball Z: if you do things the right way you evolve fast, but if you make mistakes...) .

Therefore, in incarnated form you can learn real fast, because your senses are reduced drastically (and some of your senses you might have in spiritual form, will never appear here). And in a place like this you need to try hard and be on focus to always try to do the right thing.

As so, in this conditions, if you do things the right way you can advance really fast in your spiritual evolution. But if you continue doing bad things (or if you already did bad things in your previous life incarnated and are doing nothing to ty to repair your previous errors and mistakes), you don't advance. And in planets like this, the time is always against you when you do bad things. The more you delay on try to fix things you did wrong in the past (in this life or in the previous life), more difficult will be for you to repair it later.

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But doesn't matter how long you take to go back on the right track, you will always have later an opportunity to do so (incarnated and in spiritual form). But as long as you delay it, your own soul will act in a way so you have an urge to try to fix things a.s.a.p.. And this is absurdly intensive when you are not incarnated anymore (i. e.: you are "dead" and have again become aware of who you really are, and your senses are not kind of blocked anymore). And for some people that have committed so many crimes, this sensation is excruciating like the worst pain you can ever imagine ("soul pain" if I can try to explain it in some way).

You can do whatever you want (i. e.: bad things) when you are incarnated, but once you become "free of matter" (a.k.a.: dead) your own soul will charge you "to pay the price" for your crimes). And your previous crimes are always accumulating, and can only be "erased" when you do your job in amend it in the future. And the price is always high. You need to suffer (probably in your future incarnations) more than you made someone suffer before in your previous lives incarnated.

SPIRITUAL REALM

So, with this little introduction about Spiritualism we can continue to talk about the part that focus on this thread. As I said earlier, the only thing that can be considered endless (in time and "space") is the Spiritual Realm. The Material Realm (where we are incarnated) is on a limited part of the Spiritual Realm and its embedded on it. When incarnated in the Material Realm all your senses are kind of "blocked" in many ways and many levels depending on the circumstances, your soul level, what you came here to do so, etc) so you could "training" to be a better person (always better than your previous self in an endless level system).

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And what you are learning? To be good, to be a better person, and to purify your own soul, and level it up (in an endless level up system). And nothing is better than try to do all this in the incarnated form, because it is the fastest (and dangerous, if you do it wrong) way to do things like this.

And for people who came from past lives of crimes, its the best option, because when you incarnate you have your previous life's memories blocked (in some levels, depending on each person), so you cannot suffer (too much) with this memories, and with the intention that the same memories will (obviously) disturb your (some kind of unconscious) attempts of doing things right in your new incarnation.

DREAM STATE

In this planet and level, our material bodies are very limited (in all aspects). And one of its limitations is the need to sleep so the material body can recover from the previous "day of activities". But your soul doesn't need to sleep and that is where enters the DREAM STATE.

Your body needs to sleep but you, yourself, your own soul, doesn't. In this situation you will use this time (consciously or, in most cases, unconsciously, or some levels down of consciousness, depends on each person) to continue to live, and to continue to "training" yourself, your soul.

When in sleep mode, your spirit is not totally embedded in your body, regaining a little more of your real senses (i. e.: capabilities). The level of "plus awareness" varies from person to person in many degrees of awareness: from almost ZERO awareness (i. e.: people that claim they don't dream) to the most Lucid Dream state that can be more "real" than our wake times in incarnated form.

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And it doesn't mean that some people are better than others because they can Lucid Dream whenever they want. Its just how they came "configured" for their "necessities" in this incarnated life (i. e.: what they need from "items" and "tools" to play their "roles" in this new incarnated life).

SOUL POPULATION

Before we can continue talking about Lucid Dream, we need to state clear some crucial information about soul population. In each planet with the evolutionary (in Spiritual terms) level like our own (Earth) there are always ten times or more beings in exclusively soul forms than the incarnated ones. So in our word we estimate we have almost 7 Billions of incarnated "humans", we can estimate that this planet have, around and in many dimensional levels, at least 10 times more beings not incarnated that are in their soul form.

To be more specific, the soul is what we really are, the real life. When we are incarnated is like being swimming at the bottom of a muddy swamp, where all our senses are absurdly limited, including our communication possibilities with the real realm (the Spiritual Realm). And the majority of the people here incarnated in this planet don't cannot ever know the existence of the real life (or what real life is).

And we only can really feel what is really real when we are in exclusively in soul form (i. e.: not incarnated anymore). And when we are incarnated, we normally couldn't see but there are a lot (really a lot) of "people" in soul forma around us. There is no place to ride or do things might think no one will know or see. There are many seeing each and every second of your own life.

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>>17944593

Prove it

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DIMENSION LEVELS AND SOULS

And depends on your soul level, you will always be closest to souls at your same level. If you are a criminal, and/or you are really addict to drugs, alcohol, sex (for example) and/or if you don't respect life (yours principally, and all others), and/or if you discriminate other people by what they are, and in many levels of this wrongdoings, it means your soul level are low (in comparison) to others. And based on your own soul level you will (naturally) attract that same kind of soul (in level) around you 24/7.

DREAM LEVEL ACCESS

And, again, depends on your "soul level" you can reach more or less the dimensions levels available: from the pitch black bottom darkness where many can call a real Hell (correct nomenclature: Umbral, and still has its many lower levels per se) to the most angelic dimensions available.

As I start to say earlier in this crash course, when you are incarnated and go to sleep, your soul becomes more "detached" (in many levels, depending on each person) to your own body. And you will have more or less awareness in comparison to your awake incarnated state (e. g.: your daily life), or ever you will be one of those that claims do not dream at all.

DO YOU REALLY DON'T DREAM? THINK AGAIN

IMPORTANT: Every one "dream". There are no exceptions. But for those who claim not do dream there are two main reasons:

FIRST: this kind of people, what they "dream" (i. e.: what they do in the Spiritual Realm when their material bodies are in "sleeping mode") are mentally blocked for the awake-self life because "they don't need to know because it could not help their objective in life incarnated".

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The other type is the most dangerous (for them only): it came from people who commit a lot of crimes in their previous lives, and accumulated a lot of enemies (now, most of them, non-incarnated), but accept to reincarnate (again) to try to amend for their crimes. And the best protection for them when their material bodies need to recover in "sleep mode" is to maintain their spirits "attached" to their material bodies like they already are in their awake daily activities, so the outside spirits that want to attack them cannot do that (easily).

In this state they will no longer be able to "access" the Spiritual Realm like "free souls" do (in many levels comparing to the awake state of our bodies with our souls "entrapped") in the sleep time. For this kind of people, being a little detached from their bodies will be a living Hell and could not help their attempts to try to be a good person and try to "burn" some (or all) their past crimes in their precious incarnated lives.

It is important to note that HELL is not a "Place", but a "Spirit State". The lower your spirit level is, the Hellish will be your surroundings in the spirit form. ALWAYS!

LUCID DREAM IS NOT A PLAYGROUND, BUT A BATTLEFIELD

In this planet level, with all this souls (many with their souls in the lowest levels), lucid dream is not to be considered a playground, but a battlefield. If your soul is not in a (considered) secure level to be lucid dream and/or you don't have the right protection (i. e.: you consciously and unconsciously don't accept the help of your spirit guides) you might get a lot of trouble for your self.

And independent of your soul level, if you want to Lucid Dream, you must need to be in (at last) a good mental state and ask for help (or support) for the good spirits that want to help you in your "journey outside your material body".

>>17944692
Hello friend. Really enjoying the read so far. Got anymore? Thanks.

>>17944705

I'm almost finish here. I will release one more and then will be open to questions :) I'm Glad you are enjoying this text.

>>17944721
Well it is good stuff. The kind of stuff that really resonates with me. You recommend any books on the spiritual?

>>17944729

For start, all the books from Allan Kardec.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Kardec#External_links

I think it is possible, but it would end up being really unfulfilling.
Sure, it might be fun at the start, but it grows old very quickly.

You can just tell that whatever you are interacting with is "scripted" and just acting according to how you'd like it to. You know what to expect and it becomes monotonous once the novelty dies out.

You're better off having normal dreams.

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LUCID DREAM IS NOT A PARALLEL LIFE, BUT YOUR REAL LIFE

And, finally, considering all written above, if you consider your attempts to lucid dream to build a parallel world or (worst) a parallel life, you are doing it wrong, really bad and wrong. Whatever you do (or try to do) in wrongdoings in your awake sate during your sleep time, you are committing a crime. SIMPLY LIKE THAT!

Every time you commit a crime in your incarnate state you are considered a criminal, and depends on the civilization system you are living now (actual planet evolution and their MORAL and TECHNOLOGICAL advancements) and you are (luckily) catch, you will pay more or less what you deserve. But rest assured that what commonly you pay by your crimes in the worlds with evolutionary states like Earth in the incarnated form, is not (never) enough to really make you pay by your crimes, and you will need to pay it later, in your future reincarnations, with "interest".

And, again, the price you must pay by your crimes in your time incarnated is normally bigger than your own crimes. Because is not only the crime, but all the crescent prejudice along the time passing by that you brought to others (involved directly or indirectly) with your own wrong acts. You can really be considered lucky if you can pay the price by your crimes, immediately after you commit it. Otherwise, as time passes, your debits increases indefinitely.

So, for your own sake, don't (I repeat, DON'T) try to Lucid Dream to create a parallel life of crimes (murder, rape and so on). You are only adding crimes in your soul that you will need to (obligatory) pay it in the future, with all the interests needed.

That's it. Sorry for the text construction but it was created on the fly using my own words, and in parallel I was trying to publish it all in a short period of time for the audience's sake.

>>17944738
Thank you very much!

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>>17944767
Also, when you say rape in lucid dreams, what's the parameters for that? I understand that trying to create a "parallel life" is really like escapism, but you create the dream characters, so why does it matter? Are you saying it is internally harmful to create a situation in which you are forcefully(and perhaps violently) having sex with an unwitting self-created dream character? Is simply "willing" the dream character into inherent consent harmful as well?

>>17944756

Not at all. Try to Lucid Dream is a very interesting task for you (and your soul self), if you want to do this for self learning and self growth (the real growth, the soul growth). And if your intents are good your soul will be rewarded accordingly.

And if you try to Lucid Dream knowing all of this I wrote earlier, better for you. Try to act accordingly when you Lucid Dream again and you will be doing a good favor to your soul.

Go Lucid Dream, be an Explorer, find and know People, Learn a lot of things from other souls above you (in spiritual levels), help other souls (equal or below yours), be Happy and continue to grow and purify your own soul (i. e.: your real self).

>>17944781

The "character' you are "interacting" in your Lucid Dream (or in any dream state you might have) is not a fictional one created by yourself. IS ANOTHER SOUL! Another soul not incarnated, or some soul come from their own sleep state (not necessarily the Lucid Dream state).

And in most cases when you are dreaming, you are with less awareness than in your incarnated awake state (most likely some kind of "auto pilot function"). And it is dangerous for you, because you are interacting (in the wrong way) with souls "defenseless". The crime could be worst. Worst of the worst, is you Lucid Dream and do wrongdoings with other souls not awake like you (the crime is much bigger).

>>17944767
I'm glad I could help :)

>>17944817
What...really? So it is impossible to fractalize a part of your consciousness into a *totally* artificial simulation of a person and then just fuck it? Seriously how is it not the same as programming a sex robot? I'm sure you can interact with other souls in the lucid dreaming state, and probably also your spirit guide, but you can also tell when the person you're talking to in your dream is "fake" in a way. I thought you had TOTAL control of your dreamscape during lucid dreaming?

>>17944765
This question could be silly, but does poltergeist, ghosts, ouija shit and all those paranormal stuff have any connection with these dimensions you were talking about?

>>17940450
this sounds wrong but I had a dream where I could have very well acted out a form of pedophilia (everything in the dream wanted me to, including the child) and I didn't. It's not something I'm interested in at all in normal waking life, but it was a weird dream state. Also I was a different gender/person altogether. When I decided not to do it, it was literally a choice I made. When I woke up I was so happy that I didn't do it, also I woke up very shortly after not doing it. I think I creepily copped a feel on the kid's ribs or something because the kid was all over me and it was as the dream itself was trying to seduce me -_-
nonetheless, pretty traumatizing.

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As I said above, you don't fabricate people in your dreams. you interact with them (soul to soul). That is where all the dangerous reside in any wrong act if you don't know this information. Worst of the worst of the worst will be some one aware of all this information and continue to do wrongdoings in their Lucid Dreams state...

LUCID DREAM TO CONTACT AWAKE PERSONS TOO

And, changing a little in the subject, I remember something important: the soul awareness during the sleep state of our bodies can be used to visit places in the incarnated world, and interact with people incarnated too. You can (e. g.) visit a distant relative, or go for a walk on a beach. And when you contact other people awake you can try to communicate with them too.

Better if you try to visit people with certain levels of spiritual power (i. e.: people who can interact with spirits). You could obtain more information about the process and ever try to confirm it later, calling this people when awake ;)

>>17940450
For some minds, like mine, it is very possible to create a "world" or at least a city that you don't leave. I for one have made a city- much like in Inception and while I slept for only ONE NIGHT I was able to live there for a couple of days, it was very overwhelming not being able to escape. Yeah, it was nice to have family be with you. And it's nice to be able to create anything from air with your mind if you concentrated hard enough.
But in the end, I couldn't stand it because I knew that I was dreaming. Yet I didn't have enough motivation to "leave" this place I created. So I imagined a grenade and killed myself and my family with it.
It really fucked up my grip on reality for quite a bit considering I had a dream then accidentally killed myself and "woke up" into another dream (the world I created) then killed myself again, and woke up.
Lucid Dreaming can be trippy, and really fuck you over

>>17944837

Unfortunately, no! I think you can ever try, but rest assured you might be in contact with other souls (almost 100%) and not some artificial creation. So, don't try this in your dreams for your own sake.

And, I'm talking about crimes. If you really want to have sex in your dreams I think many other souls will correspond to you (in the same soul level) and it will be (i. e.: you can try is as) a consensual relationship between two souls.

But what matter the most is the will to act. What your REAL purpose in have sex inside your dreams? It can be considered good or bad? Think about it.

>>17944882
I'm having trouble buying this. I don't see why you can't have your own personal "dream bubble" which wards out all souls that are not an extension of you. My own personal experiences with dream characters kinda confirm the idea that they are not real in that way, as I sorta use them as a gateway into my subconscious. It is always as if they are "placed" there by my own higher self for my own benefit. I can create as many characters as I want. Maybe even a whole stadium of them. And I can will them out of existence just as fast. This is why I have trouble buying your idea that all characters are other souls, even with your idea of "auto-pilot" mode. This is perhaps only true in a certain dream realm where all souls co-create the dreamscape to experience together.

>>17944859

Yes! They are all souls not incarnated (ghosts, poltergeist, etc), and many of the bad ones are souls that are running from the reincarnated system for a long time and "live" in the Material Realm only to do wrongdoings.

And try to separate it when you talk about dimensions. Consider that what is the real life is the Spiritual Realm. The Spiritual Realm is endless and timeless. And the Material Realm is only a little and restricted part of it where souls incarnated to learn and to become better, evolve, etc.

Inside the Spiritual Realm you can find dimensions "separated" in levels. from bottom one to endless top layers above of dimensions. The higher dimensions the higher souls will be "living" there (e. g.: angels, archangels, etc). The lowest dimensions, the lowest souls (e. g.: "demons", etc).

And to clarify more, angels, demons and so on are only words we use to describe souls in different levels.

Ouija boards, runes, tarot cards, and so on, are only tools that help people to communicate with souls not-incarnated (in higher or lower levels of soul evolution, depends only the level of the incarnated using this tools).

>>17944903
I would like to meet up with Archangel Michael in a lucid dream. How can I go about doing this?

>>17944903
So, what are nightmares?

>>17944860

And you are right. You were being tested and "passed" :) Congrats! We are here to learn and to be tested if we really learn things we (individually) need to learn in each of our own incarnation.

Trying to think positive all the time, be happy all the time (i. e.: the true happiness can only be achieved by only one way: to help others) and you will always be good to go. Obviously each one of us have its own quota of challenges to surpass. And be good all the time help us a lot during this "tests".

Remember this and remember well:

OUTSIDE CHARITY THERE IS NO SALVATION

>>17944922
I have a quetsion though, I used to be shitty and not be a good person and yet it seems that the gods always helped me out. Now I'm trying to be good and I feel the gods have left me (I don't feel their presence) but also my life is physically better?

why

>>17944922
I Don't dream anymore, what can it be?

>>17944870

Create places is very possible. Or, perhaps, you think yuou create a plae but instead this place already exists (but you didn't notice).

And yes! In dream state, time passes by differently from our awake state in the Material Realm. A dream can be much longer (in time) than the equivalent hours during sleeping time. It can last up to days, weeks, months or ever years. Depends on what you need to do, where you need to stay and so on, during your out-of-your-body soul state in the sleep time your body needs to recover.

Other interesting point. All of us are IMMORTAL SOULS. The soul is indestructibly no matter what you think you can destroy it. YOU CANNOT. But do wrongdoings - being awake or in your dreams (worst: in Lucid Dreams) - will not only accumulate your crimes for the future you to pay in future reincarnations, but will leave marks in your spirit that (equally) will need a lot of good acts to fix the wrong ones.

There are souls that commit so much horrible crimes that if you could see their soul forms you will think they are the worst monster you ever encounter in life. And people like that will need years, centuries, or even millennials to fix their soul back to normal. Its much difficult to repair a wrongdoing than to not commit any wrongdoing - in all senses possible.

>>17940450
>With enough practice, is it possible to build an entire, recurring world through lucid dreaming and live a paralel life there?

The best you can hope for is an elder scrolls clone.

>>17944902

Let me try to explain this:

Once you are sleeping, your soul are more or less "free" from your material body, and with more or less access to the Spiritual Realm.

Everyone have some level of the power of thought. Then, when you think in create people, you might attract souls that are in condition (evolution, power, etc) similar, above or below you.

- If you think of bad things, you will only be able to gather people equal or below your soul level, yourself.
- If you think of good things you can gather people equal or above your soul level, yourself.

When you think on erase people, you might being act to made then leave your side. And ever if you think you are aware of what you are doing (create/destroy life) you could be not aware that what you are really doing is invite people (i. e.: other souls) in/out your presence.

People incarnated in this world, normally means, they don't have the evolution level to try to HELP create life. And ever many times above our soul level, they cannot create life by their own. The one responsible to create life is the source, and all souls created, normally are created pure, simple and ignorant, and follows their evolutionary path (mineral, plant, animal, hominid, man, angel and so on).

Other possibility is you are really creating realistic dummies (false people). Its not impossible, but rest assured that what really counts, what really matters, its your thoughts. If you are doing it with all good intentions, OK.

But if you are using it to do wrongdoings, this is bad for your soul, In the Spiritual Realm, thinking in commit a crime is still a crime and your soul will pay for that.

I hope I could help clarify it.

>>17944906

There exist a hierarchy of souls (from bottom to endless above). And depends on your "position" if you really try to talk directly with some soul much more above than your soul level, and you really have only GOOD DEEDS in your mind, you might:

MORE PROBABILITY: Some intermediate soul between you and who you really wants to talk will talk directly to you or;

LESS PROBABILITY: The being you want to talk will contact you directly.

But be in mind that some beings much more above humanity levels are so strong, so energetic, so radiant, that they cannot be in direct presence/contact of mankind or they will do real harm to the other souls and the entire planet, solar system, and so on.

EXAGGERATING: for some people it will be like being naked in front of an atomic bomb explosion.

>>17944817
Does that mean everytime someone has a nightmare of being raped/tortured/murdered it is another soul acting out these crimes? And if so, could someone theoretically target a person they know in the Material Realm to Spiritual "attacks"?

>>17944919

Nightmares are situations some people experience because their own soul are not in equilibrium (energetically speaking), AND in some cases they are attracting bad souls to their surroundings.

In the case of nightmare with "monsters": souls not-incarnated, exclusively the lowest ones (in evolutionary way, the bad guys) can shape shifting to appear to be monsters in your eyes. Lowest souls will want to attack whatever soul is "off guard" doesn't matter their soul evolutionary level. And the most fragile ones to this attacks are children, because they are far from learn and develop their own mental strength to repel bad souls from interacting with them in the Spiritual Realm when they are sleeping (and free to walk).

And for children, any scary movie or situation can spark future nightmares. Parents can help it when they go to sleep if they always try to think positive for their children.

Adults that constantly have nightmares could being target by group of souls (relative or not with past lives). But primary, it is showing that exists a mental breach in their consciousness (caused by stress, diseases, and so on).

>>17944943

My advice to you:

NO RETREAT NO SURRENDER :)

The good part is you recognize your past of wrongdoing and are trying to do the right thing from now on. In the past other souls might saw in you a chance to go back to the right track and always help you until you decide to be good again.

But the road is long to fix all this problems, and all this difficulties are part of your new journey. The souls that helped you in the past continue at your side helping you, but they know they cannot do it for you and you really need to face it by your own strength.

Also, when you do wrongdoings, it affects all your "bodies": soul and material body too. When you start to be good again, it reduces all the bad vibes you were generating from itself in the past, and your physical body is suffering a lot less now.

Be strong man :)

>>17944945

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>>17945046

> Does that mean everytime someone has a nightmare of being raped/tortured/murdered it is another soul acting out these crimes?

YES.

> And if so, could someone theoretically target a person they know in the Material Realm to Spiritual "attacks"?

YES

In both cases might be involved souls incarnated (that target other souls in the Spiritual Realm) and non-incarnated ones. This could be because of problems between souls in past lives (e. g.: crimes that one or both parts are involved). And the actual soul incarnated are trying to live another life (trying or not to amend its past errors) and the other part (non-incarnated) trying to revenge it by itself.

There are cases where low level of non-incarnated souls are trying to target good people to destroy their lives so they could contribute to create more Chaos on this (already Chaotic) Word.

But rest assured that:

1 - A soul, incarnated or not, is committing a crime and will pay for it in the future. Their own souls are marked with their crimes for future actions.

2 - If the one who are being target are aware of this, he/she can state loud and clear in their dream that they want it to stop and the criminal souls must get out of their presence (its the law). The souls that try to continue it (their crimes against other souls in the Spiritual Realm), will be burden with a crime worst than the initial one because of the refuse to go away.

3 - They can always call for help for their spirit guides in that matter.

Anymore questions? :)

>>17945134
thank you very much :)

When you say "it's the law" however, do you mean a "Law of Reality" that's impossible to break, or a law in which some governing body enforces?

Once again thank you this is really informative!

>>17940450
No shut up. Go away

>>17945149

When I said "its the Law" is because this law exists in the Spiritual Realm. No soul can attack other soul if the other soul state that it cannot be attacked. It doesn't mean the attack will cease only because of that, but every soul with minimal knowledge about this, know what they will face in the future if they refuse to stop.

Most evil souls attacks its soul's victims knowing they don't know (or they are not aware of) this law. And in incarnated form, in this planet, considering the evolutionary state of both the planet and many of its residents, a bunch of incarnated ones will forget this statement and will be prey for evil souls.

And I'm glad I could help :)

>>17945173

Continuing:

The Spiritual Realm is the real life, and the Material Realm its only a small rough part copying some of it, in all aspects. Humans create laws in each country. In the Spiritual Realms there are laws too. And they tend to be more perfect in every aspect.

What we know from reality, here incarnated, is only a grain of sand in the universe (comparatively).

I'm still open to questions (for a short period of time). But I remember something interesting that I could share with you all:

Do you know what a demonic possession really is like?

>>17945196
What can I do to stay in the lucid dream? I have only had a couple but I remember getting too excited and waking up. Also how can I make them more clear/vivid? What is the best way to practice? Thank you for your advice and time it was really nice to read

>>17945196
What's a good place to start learning about the spiritual realm and how to enter it?

>>17945200

Well. I have one little trick that might give you more time in your next Lucid Dream state. When you notice that you are loosing control of your awareness level, just look around in a 360º way (always maintaining your perception in the surroundings) so you can gain a little more time in this state.

But this trick is not eternal. You can do it every time you perceive you are losing control. Just one 360º each time you need, will give you a little more awareness time (every second count in this state). But sometimes it will not work, but don't worry. It just means you need to get out these state and live your dream state in whatever awareness were required for your learning.

My personal "record" was using this trick 4 times in the same lucid dream. It ensures me some precious more seconds each time I need to do a 360º and look with attention at my surroundings.

But know that you can increase your average awareness each time you try to Lucid Dream (successfully or not). It means that if you try to be Lucid Dream all night, you will increase little by little your total awareness power. So ever in your "normal" dreams you will notice that you can achieve a little more awareness than before. Ever if this awareness is far from a Lucid Dream state, you still can growth little by little every time you practice, and in the overall practice time you will notice that you are growing in your awareness state each night for all your dreams in the future.

>>17945245

i believe, first you need to know about the spiritual Realm. As I said earlier in this thread you can start by learning all the books from Allan Kardec:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Kardec#External_links

There is no real order but the first (the Spirit Book) is important to introduce the theme to you and serves as the basis to all other 4 books. The others you can learn out of order if you want:

1 - The Spirits' Book (read it first, no matter what)
2 - The Book on Mediums
3 - The Gospel According to Spiritism
4 - Heaven and Hell
5 - Genesis

In the link above you will have access to all 5 books for free, because there is copyright no more (these books were written in the XIX Century).

LUCID DREAM IN A SPIRITUALISM PERSPECTIVE

After you read this books you can try any book about Lucid Dream you want. Just to know the work of the authors and the techniques they present in it to achieve the Lucid Dream state. But keep in mind that will be difficult to find a book about Lucid Dream that considers the knowledge in it about Spiritualism (what really happens).

And that's the problem with this books about Lucid Dream. (Apparently) They all make people think about this subject as if they are accessing some kind of fictional parallel world or something similar, that only their physical minds (i. e.: cerebrum) are generating it, and they can do anything they want no matter the consequences.

This is wrong and this is dangerous. Very dangerous!

REMEMBER: Knowledge is Power!

The Bible, if you can consider only one phrase as correct, that might be this one:

John 8:32 "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

And as Einstein (1879 - 1955) said: "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. So is a lot.'

He also said something very useful about Reality (what we are entrapped in this incarnation system) that serves to you to understand that there are a Spiritual Realm:

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."

>>17945300

And the rest, you need to try to find it in the Internet (for your own).

If you want you can save this page-thread in your computer to archive all this information I typed in here. I know the text I wrote was very summarized but still is a good start for you to try to find more about it in the future.

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thank you for the information anon

>>17945506

You are welcome :)

>be able to have lucid dreams since childhood
>think it's normal for everyone
>finds out that actually it's pretty uncommon
>sometimes sleep paralysis
>it's still fine I guess
>come to /x/
>"SPIRIT FLYING SHENANIGANS"

This is sad even for /x/ standards, even in the fake pictures at least they try to be reasonable.

>>17941922
Please commit suicide, celebrity-obsessed little twit.

>>17944817
Fuck you and your bullshit moralizing. "Crime" as defined by whom? Each and every one of us is surely a deity, and we have the right to do everything that we are physically and spiritually able to do.

If you let yourself get tied down with bullshit artificial guilt ideology, you will fall in the same trap as countless catholics and SJWs. The truth is, crime doesn't exist. In a fundamentally artificial world, how could anything we do have any eternal implications? The only thing real behind the illusion is the raw consciousness behind the being, and I could no more kill or harm that than I could create the world. No one can, it is simply there and will always simply be there.

So then I ask, how is it possibly to commit a crime against another entity if you are incapable of inflicting any meaningful (not illusory) and lasting harm upon them?

>>17945300
I've been a lucid dreamer since I was very young, what you say puts a lot of things into perspective for me. You may not be able to answer my question. The most persistent theme in my dreams is thrilling chase. sometime's I'm escaping prison, sometimes I'm chased by bad people, sometimes dinosaurs, sometimes aliens, sometimes the authorities. Often times I am armed, and often times I reach a point where I feel as If the only option is to take my own life to avoid capture. It's never frightening, it usually just feels like the end of the chase. Sorta like I'm saying "good game" before quitting. But taking my life never works. one time before prison guards got me I jumped off of a cliff, when that didn't work I shot myself in the head, which didn't work either. So I kept shooting myself until I woke up. There have been a couple occasions where it seems that I'm able to take my life but the dream seems to rewind, and I'm told that I don't get to see what comes after that. So am I doing something inherently wrong? I never do anything to provoke the chase, I'm just thrown right into it. Should I not enjoy it? Am I supposed to submit? If what you're saying is true then maybe I've had enemies in past lives. Am I being reckless?

>>17945611

Read the literature I cited earlier and you will understand.

>>17945756
Damn dude, you are surprisingly chill about me totally telling you to fuck yourself. Alright, I'll probably have a look for myself

Only lucid dream I ever had was when I realised I was dreaming while I was in a room with a girl so I decided to rape but I got too excited and woke up.

>>17945611
To answer your question you need to understand something called supervenience. Supervenience is essentially a "building block" not in physical form but in any form. If I gave you the knowledge to construct a thousand homeless shelters from minimal resources from which such homeless population actually rise up to become normal then you can say that I created a supervenience with you. Those homeless people that are now becoming fully functional people in society giving in the greater good could not have been made possible at the same time without me giving you the info for building cheap camps. Let's say someone kills me before I give you the info and the homeless camps are not made. Therefore it is now possible either someone will help the homeless camp be built again since the idea exists and the faster author doesn't, or the right timing of things makes it so it never exists. Causing the homeless who could have made a difference to have not made any differences.
What I'm saying is that morality isn't easily defined for now, what you should consider for morality is creating new events. That is the key that everyone should be seeking. Event creation.

>>17945805
In other words, to make it brief, consider the consequences.

>>17945630

Life is sacred, and one of the most horrible crimes is called SUICIDE. With that in mind lets analyse the whole situation:

I think you are been tested (dreams can be like that too). So, try not to loose your cool, your control of the situation, and try not to kill yourself in your dreams. You kill yourself, you loose. And this kind of dream will restart over and over again, until you, someday, succeed. Simply like that ;)

And what you learn in the dreams, use in your life. One suggestion I could give to you is: before go to sleep think positive that you will be able to solve the whole situation by:

1 - not to kill yourself.
2 - try to analyse the situation you are been tested (captured, been frightened and so on) and rationally try to find a way out. resist in not to try a forcibly awake.
3 - In the middle of these dreams try "wake up inside the dream" and (if it is successful) try to convince your own self that it is just... a dream.
4 - Always ask for help to your spirit guide, before you go to sleep, and if you could remember, during the dream too.

I think the principal in your dreams is how to deal with extreme adversity situations like your examples cited above. Sometimes situation like this occurred to me too and in the middle of the dream I also realize that something is wrong and the whole situation vanished. People that start to chase me earlier stop and start to act normally, and something like this. Sometimes you need to fight back too, impose your will, as a way to solve the situation.

This type of situation always try to help you to control your feelings, to not be aggressive, depressive, submissive or anything extreme in your life. There is always a way to solve the problems with cool mind and a lot of interior energy (from your soul).

That said, keep in mind that dreams can also be a way for the spirits/souls to help you to learn something that is important to your life incarnated here.

>>17945770
I'm just trying to help you, ever with you answering me in the heat of a moment like that. I will take no offense so don't worry about it :)

And I will try to answer your last phrase/question:

> So then I ask, how is it possibly to commit a crime against another entity if you are incapable of inflicting any meaningful (not illusory) and lasting harm upon them?

I think I already answered something similar earlier for another anon, but here we go:

Think of committing a crime is a crime too, doesn't matter if this thought will be realized or not someday. In the Spiritual Realm (the real life per se) The thought is a powerful tool. You can create everything with it (depending on your own power). And if a spirit wishes the death of others, it will have power to harm others.

Bad thoughts can do a lot of harm. Good thoughts can do a lot of help.

You cannot kill or destroy a soul because it is indestructible. But you can do a lot o harm on it, on souls, with your thoughts. And not only in the soul of others but primarily, in your own soul. When you wish bad things might happens to others you are hitting not only your target, but your own self too. Rest assured that.

For you to try to measure the power of thought, think about this: ever incarnated, if a lot of people in this planet (independently from its own spiritual level or power) could think in World Peace constantly, the world will be in peace in no time.

But what we can see in these days are people with bad thoughts everywhere. Actually the world is in a crescent chaos, generated by all these bad thoughts (and consequently, the material acts of bad people around the world).

>>17940450 probably , the best i could do in a lucid dream was to reqct at the world. I remember a big beach and random people that i never met start to talk to me , nice people btw , so i started to talk to them with logic answers and then i though "holy shit im in a dream and taking control! ....can i create anything in here?" So like a good perv i though about having sex with one girl that was in the beach and it felt so fucking real that i came in real life , sure you can say that was a wet dream but it doesnt end there , after sex i started thinking i wish we were somewhere else like my house and all of sudden im in my house and i swear i could feel everything , grabbing stuff , eating , i felt the flavors of the food , the cold wheater... so i would say yes you can with practice

>>17945778

Lucky you. You did not complete the act. But as I said in other answers, the power of thought is immense, and bad thoughts can do harm to both you and your targets.

Be careful with your thoughts, and principally, with your acts.

>>17945884

In spirit form, with the power of thought, you can be in any place you like/want instantaneously.

I'm going to sleep a little now, but if you all want continue to post your questions about the matter in discussion here. When I wake up, if this thread is still open I will continue to answer your questions. Good night to all :)

>>17945907
Indeed , i want to ask you something. Oncei wake up and close my eyes i can see a room , is always the same room with leaves on the walls with a tiny desk in the middle , kinda look like a asian house... is not a dream because im awake but if i close my eyes is like i can see this room. A few days ago for the first time i saw a person on that room a little girl smiling and i got scare and opened my eyes. The room most of the time have color but sometimes is black and white. What is this? Im sure is not a lucid dream at all

>>17945939

Lucid Dream is only one way to communicate and interact with the Spiritual Realm. There are other ways to do so. Your vision could be some place in the Spiritual Realm or some place in the Material Realm. One thing is clear. This room exists somewhere and the people in there too.

In the Book of Mediums, codified by Allan Kardec you can find a lot of ways someone can interact beyond its 5 material senses. Take a look. But if you never read anyone of this books I suggest you start with the first book: The Spirits' Book.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Kardec#External_links

>>17945968
But why can i see this room? And why is always this room? What scare me the most the little girl looked evil , probably because everything was black and white and made her look more creepy

>>17945922
I hope this isn't too much, but this is in two parts cause it was too long:
(1/2)
So about 5 or so years ago I made a friend (who I would later be in a relationship with) online and despite the long distance we seemed to have a sort of connection with each other. We had synchronicities and stuff, according to http://www.astrotheme.com/astrological_love_compatibility.php the two of us have a nearly perfect compatibility, and we often dreamed of each other and told each other about the dreams, even early on in the friendship. But like, when she dreamed of me I don't recall myself being in her dreams and vice versa. The closest thing to that was one time I dreamed of her maybe a week or two before we were in a relationship and in the dream (from what I can remember, since this was a while ago) I recall like, hugging her for the first time or something and soon after in the material world we were actually in a relationship. Also in said dream, what I dreamed she wore, it turned out that was or was very similar to what she was actually wearing that night. But one question I have is how come when one person dreams of another person, the other person doesn't also experience that/is it "really them" that we're interacting with?

>>17945922
>>17946165
(2/2)
Also (and this is dream related but there's some backstory I need to give first) since then we broke up and after a month or so from that point we started talking to each other again and we continued being close friends for a few years and then out of nowhere she disappeared from the internet and changed her phone number and stuff without telling me and we were without contact for a while. about 6 months or so go by and she starts going online and stuff again, but every time I tried to contact her I got ignored or blocked. It was really weird and out of the blue and unfortunately I don't have all my old text messages from my old phone to see if I said anything wrong that would cause her to be upset with me so I can't even really reflect on what I did wrong to improve myself as a person, I just lost a close companion.
I had a dream a few months ago that really fucked me up. She was trying to call me on the phone and I picked up but I had poor service so I tried finding somewhere with service and she was still talking and I was trying to listen and respond to the best of my ability but it wasn't working and either she hung up or I lost service or something and the call ended. Is there anything you might be able to tell me about that dream to help me understand it or something?

>>17940450
No

But maybe!!

>>17944371
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>>17944868
*fart nois(

>>17946289
Wow. Nice shitpost, kid.
Though I must inform you, 4chan is not a place for people of your age. You must be at least 18 to use 4chan.
But thanks for the bump anyways.

wtf ive had this thread open for like 8 hours. im surprised it hasnt been 404

>>17946388
Are you OP or are you the person who was answering questions and stuff or neither?

>>17946391
neither, just a useless lurker

Hello my Friends. Thank you for waiting. I wake up already. So I will again start to answer your questions :)

Also, Happy "Caturday" for everyone :)

And before the answers, remember that cats are good souls that are here on this planet to help us. In the evolutionary scale of the souls they still in the animal Realm but they are the ones with the most spiritual power and with the most contact/interact with the Spiritual Realm. Also, they are really good to us who love them and can help us against low level souls, anytime. They will show that you have been visited (by souls), and if the ones are good or bad souls too.

They help not only to maintain your home clean of bugs, but clean of low level spirits too. But, of course they are not here to protect us without us doing nothing. There is something in the Existence called Cause and Effect that reflect to our souls. If you did something wrong to someone in the past (in this life or in some past lives) you will need to pay for this. And all souls you prejudice somewhere, someday, if they are not in a certain spiritual level they will think of "immediately payback time", and all this can be turned in a Chaos spiral downhill if no intervention are made.

Remember: YOU ALWAYS NEED TO REAP WHAT YOU SOW

So, cats are here to help us in a certain limited way, but it is best to have one close to you. But a cat will only accept you if you love them. They can know if you want to be with them only by pure stingy interest, and in this case they will not help you at all.

LOVE MUST BE MUTUAL BETWEEN SOULS

>>17946054

> But why can i see this room? And why is always this room? What scare me the most the little girl looked evil , probably because everything was black and white and made her look more creepy

In the Spiritual Realm there is no such a thing as Coincidence. There is always a meaning, a purpose. And all souls are connected in some kind of degree or level, in results of past lives interactivity (good and/or bad) and the acquaintanceship
in the Spiritual Realm too, when souls are not incarnated at all (There is a time between reincarnations that varies from soul to soul based in their own necessities).

Maybe this little girl is related to you in some way? My suggestion to you: when this scenario occurs again, try to immediately ask for help to your Spirit Guides, to help you achieve an answer about this matter. try to identify the room and the girl and the reason you always could see them both.

Also, try to ask your spirit guides why the room looks so creepy and what you really need to do in this case scenario.

There are a lot of possibilities in this scenario: good and bad ones. But don't worry and focus on try to:

1 - Know the truth and;
2 - What you really need to do in this case

But remember, and remember well: when you ask anything to your spirit guides, it must need to come from the bottom of your heart. You must start asking for help and guidance with pure intents only.

In the Spiritual Realm and specifically around this planet (that yet need to evolve too) there are a lot of low level souls that want to pass by to be your spiritual guide. More times than any incarnated souls. Its a real Horde of low level souls just wanting to prejudice others.

If you could see what is really happen right now at your surroundings, you will call the scenes from Hell Keanu Reeves saw in the Constantine movie as "a lovely kindergarten day in a lovely sunny day with dear friends" :(

>>17946054

Continued from: >>17947110

And there is a lot of low level souls in this world interacting (in a bed way) 24/7 with the incarnated ones (that the majority of the souls incarnated here on this planet cannot see or hear them). And when you cannot see or hear someone who wants to do harm to you, you become unaware of your surroundings (and their intentions in the Spiritual Realm). So, your mental defenses will be (automatically) lowered and you will become a good target for them.

And being manipulated in the shadows by low level souls is not a good way to live, don't you agree? ;)

MOST BASIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE SPIRITUAL REALM

You can find more detailed information about this (at first in a introductory way) in the books of Allan Kardec:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Kardec#External_links

There are a lot of good (and bad) physical and digital books, and sites all around the Internet, but for you to know how to choose between them YOU MUST NEED TO HAVE PREVIOUS, BASIC AND SOLID KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH.

For this I recommend all 5 books codified by Allan Kardec. But if you never read one of this books,please, I suggest you to try first his first book on the matter: The Spirits' Book.

Understand that all books from this author are only the basic of the basic of the basic true information about the Spiritual Realm. But with them as your basic knowledge you will be able to not let others misguide you in the future. They will become the basis to your logical reasoning.

All this books are not Fairy Tales. They try to guide you in the Basics of the Spiritual Realm's Knowledge using the Scientific Method. They will not try to pull down your throat, by force, any kind of information, so don't worry.

And when you finish them, you will know for sure that you now know ONLY THE BASIC OF THE BASIC OF THE BASIC of the Spiritual Realm Knowledge.

There still a lot of information out there for you to satisfy your curiosity, your taste for knowledge.

>>17946054

continued from: >>17947133

IMPORTANT: all this information about the Basic Books of Spiritual Realm's Knowledge is not a indoctrination act. So don't worry.

All knowledge must be free to everyone who wants to learn. And you don't need to try to affiliate yourself in some kind of Group or Religion to try to learn more.

YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THAT TO ACHIEVE TRUE KNOWLEDGE.

With the basic knowledge I think all of you will be good-to-go, "alone" in the search for more True Knowledge later. When I said "alone", is alone from any incarnated people around you. If you really are in doubt about something (someone, some information) you can always ask for help to your Spiritual Guides.

Spiritual Guides are the Souls with soul level above you that are responsible to guide you, and every person have at last one of them together with you all the time. And a curiosity information about Soul Guides: they choose who they want to help, but everyone have at last one soul Guide close to yourself.

So, if you are in doubt of something, ask for help but rest assured you need first to clear your minds of any bad thoughts and need to ask from the bottom of your heart for guidance, with the must good intentions you could achieve.

Only then you will receive an answer of a true soul Guide. But be WARNED: if you don't ask for guidance with good intentions you will attract for you low level souls that will try to cheat on you, impersonating someone else. You will think you are talking to your Spiritual guide, but instead you will be talking to a low level soul that will do whatever it can to corrupt you more and more. And rest assured they are Masters of Mischief and are the ones responsible to the fall of many souls incarnated here on this planet.

They are limited souls, egoistical beings, that do not accept others to grow, to level up their souls and will do everything to drag you to them.

So, always ask to your Spiritual Guides to free you from them, too. ALWAYS.

>>17946165

First, it is possible for you to dream about you two together, too. It was probably you two as souls together in this dream, but remember that each people have its own awareness level of its time in the Spiritual Realm as souls during the sleeping time of each body. So, the encounter really occurs but you could not remember it well, and she could remember it vividly.

And about the clothes, that are dreams you could see a little in the future, or ever she was showing you what clothes she would love to have in your first date. Remember that the real realm is the Spiritual Realm and the Material Realm is only a rough, a draft and limited part of the Spiritual Realm. The material Realm always copy (absurdly limited and in a rough way) from the Spiritual Realm, and not on the contrary.

Other important fact about dreams is that when souls are more free from their bodies in the sleeping time, they will show you their true form. The soul appearance is not exactly equal to the material body. It differs from little to a lot depending on the soul, the level, the influence from pasts lives, and so on.

So, sometimes you encounters someone in your dreams, see a different person, but feels that this person is some of your friends, love, relative, etc. The "physical" appearance doesn't match at all, because the soul appearance can be a little (or a lot) different from the physical appearance of the material body, but it still someone you know well.

Also, depending on the "power" of a soul it could shape shifting too, in a totally different "person" in front of you. And the soul doesn't need to be super leveled up to do that. It is the most basic feature of a soul, so ever low level souls could "change their appearances" to try to misguide you from the good path.

So, always trust in your feelings, not in the supposedly appearance of the soul in front of you. If in doubt, ask your Spiritual Guides for guidance. ALWAYS with good heart and good intentions.

>>17947154
Thanks alot , i will try to read those books. Is a weird experience for me to think i can see this room for so long and finally have some kind of answer i will read all i can about it , thank you!

>>17946171

Well, I think this dream was some kind of you two trying to communicate with each other, because of the problems you two are having in maintaining a communication (and relationship) in the Material Realm.

About the problem of loosing completely contact with each other, where one of them appears to doesn't want to talk to the other and try to disappear from his/her life, it happens a lot in this world. Partly because of one of the couple that changes drastically their own behavior, their companions, their beliefs and so on. And the other one trying to find out what he/she did it wrong in the past (finding it or not).

Sometimes, the culprit is one of them who offend (intentionally or not) the other, and doesn't remember its behavior. But, sometimes this is just the other person problems, and attitudes that changes too drastically at some point in time, and leave us confused an trying to know what to do in this case.

My suggestion to you:

1: Don't worry (too much)
2: Try to find if it was your fault
3: Independently of the (2) if you want to try to clarify things to her, try to send her an email telling her that you really care for her, that you don't want to loose contact, and so on. And at the end leave it clear in the text that you will not try to contact her anymore if he doesn't want and you will wait for her to answer your email.

Other approach would be you ask your Spiritual Guide what to do in this case. Remember that what I suggest to you above is me, in a incarnated form, with my real senses very limited (but with good intentions) trying to help you. But your Spiritual guide is:

1: A soul more level up then your own soul and;
2: They are in the Soul state (exclusively). It means they don't have a physical body and have all their senses in the maximum (they could achieve with their soul level). So they can see your situation much more clear than you and (probably) me.

>> 17946171

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REMEMBER: When ask for help to your Spiritual Guides, always have the purest intentions in your mind and ask with the bottom of your heart. You will be truly answered by them (and not by low level souls trying to misguide you).

:)

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>>17941244
>spirit form

>>17947190

You are welcome! :)

>i be the body dropper
>the heartbeat stopper
>child educator
+
>head amputator

Before you try lucid dreaming, get into breathing. Breathing will flow into meditation.
You will know when you're ready.

>dangers are dangerous for a reason

I'm still open to questions here :)

>>17947707
You keep talking about a "spiritual guide"
Could you elaborate a little more on that? What is a spirit guide, how do I make contact with them, etc.?

>>17947212
what the fuck is so funny and why are you on /x/?

>>17947750
not the same anon, but I would to know if this spiritual guide could interact with me or someone else in any possible way, either with sounds, visual interactions, etc.

soo i have a few questions:

Since i have no control over the events in my dreams will my souls still be charged with any crimes that are committed even though i am unable to do anything about it?

It was mentioned earlier that anyone you see in your dream was another soul and acts of crime against them are bad but what if this "other soul" is visibly a fictional character? (like Tracer or something) would it be like a test then?

Does religion play any part in all of this?

Why is it that WE are not aware of all this but THEY are? ("they" being the "low level souls" that prey upon the weak)

>>17947755
just your average skeptic im assuming

>>17947750
>>17947778

OK. Both questions are similar and complementary, so I will try to answer them together. But first, lets try to make some standards in this conversation to help understand its contents:

1 - Every living being have a SOUL
2 - Every soul is the REAL SELF of every living being
3 - The souls that are not incarnated in the Material Realm and live only in the Spiritual Realm (temporarily or permanent) we will call them SPIRITS.

Based on this 3 statements we can define a SPIRITUAL GUIDE:

A - A Spiritual Guide is just a Spirit that accompany (by their own will) one or more souls incarnated here on this planet in their daily lives, with the aim (or, in order) to help them in their challenges in their current incarnated life.

B - Normally, a Spiritual Guide are souls much more "leveled up" in their evolutionary spiritual path than the correspondent incarnated ones they might guide.

C - A Spiritual Guide can help the incarnated one in each and every challenge they must need to face, but the request for help must come from the incarnated one, directed to their Spiritual Guides.

D - The Spiritual Guides are not here to help you (in the level of a direct interference) in every single situation because of each individual Karma of each incarnated soul living on this planet, because some challenges each incarnated must pass by themselves and not by a direct interference of a Spiritual Guide.

E - But in this cases the Spiritual Guide can help you without an act of direct interference. If you really are facing a difficult challenge but you discover (by yourself or by your Spiritual Guide), that this new Challenge you must need to face by yourself in order to pay old debits and reduce your Karma (some challenge you need to pass because its one of the meanings of your current incarnation) they still can help you giving you "strength" (mental, energetic and so on) so you can have "power" to bravely face against this challenge.

Is there a different board on 4chan that discusses lucid dreaming? One that doesn't believe in spooky ghosts?

>>17947874
Okay, but how does someone "request for help" from their spiritual guide? How do I contact them? That part is what I'm still not really totally understanding. You've mentioned how helpful or important their help is, but I don't know how to ask for and receive their help

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>>17947750
>>17947778

F - The Spiritual Guide interacts with you in a mental state. Its almost an intuition or something similar. And some people have enough spiritual power to they can see or talk to their spirit guides like telepathy, with voices hearing directly in their own heads.

But don't confuse it with some psychological mental state illness that in most cases are people mentally defenseless, facing bad souls non-incarnated, attacking them 24/7. Probably because of problems in past incarnations, partly because the incarnated one have a vibration soul status too low (normally low or induced by stress, diseases, alcohol, drugs and so on), equalizing it to the low level spirits around, attracting them.

G - The more evolved a soul, more energetic it is, the higher is their vibrational status. But a soul can vibrate less with interference (electromagnetic radiation in large scale, drugs, stress, emotional compromised, diseases, and so on). Think positive is one of the keys to try to maintain your vibrational status in a higher level ALWAYS. Don't low your guard in this world NEVER.

>>17947809

CONTROL LEVEL IN A DREAM

First I daresay that everyone have some kind of control level in their dream state. From the "autopilot" function when you are acting based in a subconscious instinctive way, to an awareness much more higher than in a awake day, that make you start questioning what reality really is.

Sometimes you are allowed to face your "dreams" with all awareness you could pull from it. Sometimes not, and that is one kind of a challenge. And when you have to face a crime in your dreams with almost none awareness I think you are been tested. You are not exactly committing a crime but I can believe that the architects of this scenario (the higher spirits involved on it) must want to you to be strong enough to pass this challenge the right way in your lower level of awareness. And once you achieve it, this dream will be over and will never repeat itself, and you will be the winner of the whole situation.

My suggestion to you is: always keep fighting against yourself in a way of growing your own internal energy (your soul energy), and continuously level up your soul. And the right way to to this (believe it!) is to try to do good things in your daily basis when you are awake. It will built a strong core in your soul so you could face little by little any challenges that appear in the awake state and in dreams. And I'm talking about be good in every possible way: in your thoughts and in your actions.

As I said earlier in this thread:

OUTSIDE CHARITY THERE IS NO SALVATION

And I'm never tired of repeat this statement myself everytime :)

>>17947980
Is there a name for these set of beliefs that you follow? And does this tie in to Christianity with God or Jesus Christ?

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>>17947809

AWARENESS LEVEL IN A CRIME

The degree of your "involvement in a crime" varies conform your awareness. If you are being manipulated, you probably will face less charges in the Spiritual Realm in the future. But being manipulated also could mean that you are in a low level state and/or think similar to the non-incarnated souls that are influencing you to commit a crime (ever in dreams).

Obviously, a crime in the Material Realm is much more serious, because as I explain earlier in this thread, we are incarnated to try to learn fast, but that a lot of risks involved, and if you use this opportunity to commit crimes it will be the worst for you later. The price is much higher for a crime here incarnated than in the dream state.

LIFE IS SACRED

The basis for this is the following statement: Life is Sacred.

In the incarnated state (i. e.: in the Material Realm) one of the most horrible crime you can commit is taking a life: be that life of someone else (murder) or be yours (suicide). You are here for some reasons: to learn in a fastest way, and to achieve your goals that you previously agreed to be settled. If someone interrupt your incarnation by force, what is the meaning of you came here to learn? You will need to restart it all again from the beginning (from another birth) learn everything again, forget everything you learn in the interrupted past incarnation, and so on. Worst is all the lost opportunities in the previous incarnation that was ceased and will not come back again.

That is why every life is sacred. To the most angelical being to the worst demon. They all have the chance to evolve, to be a better soul more and more.

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>>17947809

LEVEL AWARENESS BETWEEN THE INCARNATED AND LOW LEVEL SOULS

You need to be on guard every time, 24/7, because you are incarnated in a problematic time in this World's History. Ever the lowest of the souls non-incarnated have more "awareness" of its surroundings than any of us because they can see and (in many different degrees) interact in both Material Realm and in the Spiritual Realm. And if we are not aware to what we need to perceive outside the Material Realm we will become an easy target (a real sitting duck) to them.

But if we can maintain our guard always up we can be many times stronger than any lower level soul trying to corrupt us, and we will never let them misguide us in the path of the righteousness.

And in response to:

>>17947809
>>17948076

RELIGION IS A HUMAN CREATION

As we can see in this world, Religion is a Human creation. And like Humanity is prone to errors, mischief, misconceptions, abuse and so on. And they have many different faiths, directions, levels of the truth. Depends on the necessity of each soul incarnated and their evolutionary levels. Some still need to believe in a Cruel Sky Dad and an Eternal Damnation for bad souls (what is terrible wrong because doesn't exist any eternal suffer for anyone), others can already accept reincarnation, Karma, and so on.

The path I choose was to seek the truth, independent of a religion, or sectarian systems of beliefs. And I start to participate in this thread to try to help my dear anons to know the traps in the actual discussions of Lucid Dreams that almost take over the X Thread recently. I think this is the first thread on the matter that really discuss Lucid Dream integrated where it must be embedded: in the Spiritual Realm.

As I said earlier Lucid Dream is not to build a parallel world, or to commit crimes. On the contrary, it is the closest to the Spiritual Realm (the real eternal life per se) you can find when incarnated in the Material Realm.

>>17947903

You are in the right board and in the right thread, and we are not discussing about "spooky ghosts" here anon :D

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I don't mean to derail this thread or anything but seriously what the fuck is with this ad? I get this same exact ad literally every time I check this thread.

>>17947908

I think I almost answer your question here in:

>>17947925

But fell free to continue to ask whatever you want about the theme.

>>17941244
>in spirit form

Aaaaand this is why I never partak in LD threads.

>>17947908

And read at the end of the >>17947154

>>17948200

Probably a paid add.

>>17948190
But how do you know that God is not the one that created this Material realm and the Spirit realm?

I've researched many things like this before, an atheist turned Christian talked about the many realms beyond Earth showed to him by Jesus himself as he was escorted from Hell.

While doing research on angels (in Christianity) I've found much information about Spirit Guides as well.

I find it plausible that these things might tie together in what God has created. Yet us on Earth should not know of the other realms he has created because we are not ready, as the Bible has forbid it.

The beliefs are very similar and ultimately try to direct people to doing good, your belief in knowledge and my belief in faith. But there any many distinctly shared characteristics about Christianity and Spiritism. Who's to say they are not dominantly separate beliefs, but pieces to a much bigger puzzle?

>>17947903
You arrogant attention seeking little twat. You can fuck off to any board you like. I'm sure people of all sorts are just waiting to bask in your wisdom.

>>17944817
you seem to be confusing ones own subconscious mind with the astral realm.
the vast majority of our dreams scenario-simulations created by our subconscious mind. Becoming lucid in our own dreams can allow for us to create a gate-way into the astral realm where you communicate and interact with other "souls and inhabitants."

>>17948257

> But how do you know that God is not the one that created this Material realm and the Spirit realm?

The Source (or God, or Whatever name anyone can call that can represent the omnipotent consciousness) is the one responsible for all that exists with the participation (in co-creation) with many other higher souls in existence (the ones that already achieve higher grounds on the infinite evolutionary path a soul can take)

> I've researched many things like this before, an atheist turned Christian talked about the many realms beyond Earth showed to him by Jesus himself as he was escorted from Hell.

There are many Realms above (and below) Earth. There are Infinite layers above to be more precise, but in Earth standards there still a fell layers down based in what this planet is immersed according on its evolutionary status and its evolutionary's soul population present here (incarnated and in spirit form only).

> While doing research on angels (in Christianity) I've found much information about Spirit Guides as well.

They are all souls: angels, archangels, co-creators, demons, ghosts, poltergeists, succubi, humans, extraterrestrials, old gods, goddess, deities and so on. Based on the evolutionary path a soul can take, some are located in higher levels above humanity, some in lower levels. And normally, all of them start from the beginning like everyone of us, in other planets at all, billions of years ago and so on.

> I find it plausible that these things might tie together in what God has created. Yet us on Earth should not know of the other realms he has created because we are not ready, as the Bible has forbid it.

Knowledge is a tool that can be used for good or for bad. Better if used for good so you don't stop your soul's evolutionary path. Some over spec technology are not passed to us because we are not ready yet (in MORAL advancements).

>>17948211
then dont

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>>17948257

> The beliefs are very similar and ultimately try to direct people to doing good, your belief in knowledge and my belief in faith. But there any many distinctly shared characteristics about Christianity and Spiritism. Who's to say they are not dominantly separate beliefs, but pieces to a much bigger puzzle?

You can try to think of all this religions and concepts as fragments of the truth. And the better way to handle all this information is to try to organize it all in a super set way (mathematically speaking). Always removing the wrong and misguided information parts, adding the truth and correct parts, always confronting each piece of information that could be represented as the same knowledge segment (always choosing the best part of it to be placed in its correspondent/correct position). And bit by bit you will be able to create a solid, modular and crescent knowledge basis of the truth about what matters the most... Life, Existence.

>>17948292

Subconscious mind is not a place, but it is most likely a awareness state of mind. The location in your dreams is always in some place and level in the Spiritual Realm (and remember: the Material Real is a limited portion of the Spiritual Realm and it is embedded in it). That said, the behavior and the situation you might being participation in it is highly influenced by the state of your mind. And if you are incarnated, it is most probably that you are been tutored by other higher souls during your sleeping time, too.

And the creation part is real. In the Spiritual Realm what matters most is the power of thought and how you use it (for good or for bad). What you can never dream of creating here in the Material Realm (sorry for the pun) you can easily do in the Spiritual Realm.

And the interactions with other souls/inhabitants is most likely the contact/interaction with other souls (directly or indirectly) in your dream state when your soul is less embedded in your material body.

If you are "dreaming", you (i. e.: your soul) are already in the Spiritual Realm. Becomes Lucid in a Dream is just elevate your awareness state in the same place. And I think everyone must try to do this sometimes (or whenever they want). Try to become lucid in a dream is a part of the way to try to grow your own soul level, too. With more awareness in the Spiritual realm during the dreaming state you can learn more, can participate more, and the most important part: can register this experience in the Material realm when you wake up.

REMEMBER: Not all dreams we are allow to remember when we awake, because the knowledge gained there could hinder your "mission" here incarnated. And if you become strong enough to be able to Lucid Dream, it means you are ready to retain the knowledge of this specific dream state to your daily life in the Material Realm. Bonus point taken in the evolution path :)

So, you all, try not to misuse the Lucid Dream as a tool.

>>17940450
>Does your brain explode from the overload?
actually

you'll probably wear yourself out doing it, I've had times when I wake up when things get intense and it feels like my spine running hooked up to a car battery - so it's not as innocent as you might wish

Still open to questions :)

>>17948433
What about the spirits of animals. Could you go into more details on that? You said something earlier about cats being special or something.

>>17948441

The spirit of animals are placed in a evolutionary ranking in to (big) steps down our position. They already evolved from the Vegetable Realm, and some day they will evolve to the human condition. There are a lot of sub levels in all this evolutionary path but to simplify it for now I will talk about the big steps: Vegetable > Animal > Hominid > Human. Well, following this path the next huge evolutionary step are the Angels. Someday everyone will be able to achieve this level.

Going back to talk about the animals, we all need to extend the love for the life (and the living beings) to them too, and to all beings in the inferior levels of the evolutionary scale of the spirits. Also, the Animal Realm have some interesting characteristics:

A: They can be considered our "little brothers" in the evolutionary scale of the spirits.

B: They don't have free will like us so they cannot commit crimes (and consequently they are not punished).

C: Normally, when they die they are immediately allocated into the reincarnate system. So normally they don't wander too much in the Spiritual Realm. Of course there are animals in the spiritual Realm, some of them stays a lot of time there.

D: Animals are presented (incarnated and in spirit form only) in many inhabited planets. Planets in many evolutionary degrees (above and below our evolutionary level of our planet) have animals living together with humans.

E: In the planets more morally advanced than Earth the animals are treated with love and respect, serving the human race with love and dedication. No animal are used as food for humans in this planets.

F: In the superior worlds the humans are more advanced (in technology and, principally, moral) and the animals too having better communication media between them. But the animals are always inferiors and submissive to humans.

>>17948433
Would being murdered absolve your soul of your crimes since your time to correct them was arbitrarily shortened?

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>>17948441

G: All animals are programmed to act instinctively in any place of the planet they might be living incarnated. Their natural behavior is imprint in their program as living beings. So, whatever the planet, the birds will know how to build nests, the carnivores will know how to hunt their preys, and so on.

EXTRA: There is no such a thing as a retrograde evolution. So a human will never reincarnate in an animal. And there is no jumping steps, so no animal will jump directly to a human incarnation.

H: When an animal evolves inside their own category they will stop to reincarnate in wild animals to reincarnate in domestic animals, because they already acquired enough knowledge that differentiate them from the wild animals. The very coexistence with humans is, for the domestic animals, a great life experience for them. Once you treat well your pet with love and care, when they die and need to reincarnate, they will reincarnate in a species that is in their same evolution level. So help your pets to evolve fast: give a lot of love and care to them :)

And remembering Leonardo Da Vinci: "I have from an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men."

J: The animals have a intelligence that permits them to have a certain degree of freedom in action.

K: Again, there are animals living in the Spiritual Realm but they are different from the animals that inhabit the Material Realm.

L: When an animal dies it conserves its rudimentary consciousness, and all its learning experiences that will be useful in its evolution. After death the animal soul conserves its individuality and its own consciousness.

M: As said earlier when a planet evolves it doesn't need certain types of animals with low level of spiritual evolution (e. g.: The planet Earth evolved a long time ago to not need anymore animals like.. the Dinosaurs).

>>17948631

We are souls, Immortal Souls, and our real place to live is in the eternal endless and timeless Spiritual Realm, in your infinity level up system of your souls, always evolving and become a better soul more and more. And with all this, always maintaining our individuality.

If someone needs to reincarnate it means that they still need to learn the basics. Incarnation is only a small initial step of our evolution path to level up our souls. If you can see it in a big picture, it is nothing more than a blink of an eye in all Eternity.

THE PRICE OF A MURDER

If someone that still need to participate in the Karma cycle (and consequently in the reincarnate system) and still commit a crime against life (e. g.: kill another soul incarnated) he/she will probably needs to pay by this crime somewhere, someday, in the current incarnation or in some other future incarnation the same price (someone probably will take his/her life). but this is not the only one way to pay for a murder crime using the Spiritual Realm Rules. And as I said earlier, as times passing by and the prejudice grow (and the affected ones become more and more affected, prejudicing more and more their own evolutionary path) the price to pay can grow larger.

But there is no one, unique, formula for each correction system. There are a lot of ways to put things right back on tracks, and the easiest ones (for everyone) ineeds to take place shortly after the "incident".

HISTORICAL EXAMPLES

Remembers what happens to the murderer of the Abraham Lincoln? Maybe he was "lucky" to be killed immediately after his assassination attempt, but the murderer kills an important figure of the U.S. that could contribute more and more to the country if he was still alive at that time. So I don't know if the murderer really pays the right price at that time or he needed to reincarnate later (and suffer more) to pay by what he needs to really pay.

If having bad/crime-filled thoughts can add up the debt your soul has to pay then what if I dont have much control over what goes on in my thoughts? Like if im reading a book a word or phrase might get my attention and make me think of something else which then makes me think of something else and so on until my mind is just a flurry of random ass thoughts. Or sometimes i try to stop thinking about something but cant because im thinking about not thinking about it

Your mind is essentially a universe that is built on your 'life times', it's part of the spark of creation and unlimited intelligence.(one-ness).

Your consciousness collects the information and saves it deep within your sub-conscious.

Now as time passes the universe inside you continues to grow and grow to the point that you can live in it, mainly because you are god in a developing universe, such as this one.

Lucid dreaming or regular dreaming is a key to being inside this self-created universe and our brains cant really comprehend it due to our programming and the things we put into our bodies which essentially clouds our minds, which is why we can't stay lucid or remember dreams.

Your own dream(reality) is you being in "astral" form and accessing the place to put it in simple terms. It's also a bridge to other worlds, realities and even astral projecting into the world we currently live.

To answer OP's question, Yes you can but it's not something worth doing while alive because it's a huge waste of time and you'll actually slow down your progress. The only efficient way in doing this is mastering lucid dreaming, create beings that will help you and be serious about what you want to create. These helpers will be bits of your consciousness which I said is unlimited and will obey you to do anything. But I recommend that you don't dwell doing it. Mainly because of your limited consciousness of your brain, it can only handle so much.

Anything I should clarify or be specific about?

>>17940450
It's funny that you ask! I've had so many dreams, I've literally built a whole world. I have so many memories of that world it feels like I've lived it all, everything in those dreams feels real, I just don't feel pain. I even wonder if it's the future I'm seeing or different dimensional me's.. Confusing that's all I can say.

more than deserved bump, all this stuff is interesting

I'm going to sleep again. If the thread is still open later I will answer more questions :)

You have mentioned spirit guides a couple of times and I was wondering how you come into contact with them? Does everyone have them? Are they all good? Any info would be great!

>>17944765
What if you have sex with another person in this parallel world?... And they like wanted it too? Not forced or anything? Just curious...

I'm still awake so I will answer one more before going to sleep :)

>>17948977

No problem I think? Its just two souls "interacting" in a consenting way in some place of the Spiritual Realm?

If you are not addict to it I think is OK. The difference between medicine and poison is always the dosage.

But, doesn't matter the place I think it is better if you are in a relationship because of love and not only because of sexual attraction. Think about it.

Please tell me about demonic possessions..

>>17949039
You've truly help me see a lot of things tonight! Thank you. I asked about the demon possessions..

>>17949296
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>>17948968
>>17949039

>>17940450
Yea

is masturbation considered a crime on your soul?

>>17949559
ONLY IN SPIRIT FORM :)

>>17949613
kek

last bumb before heading off to sleep

best LD thread in ages.
thank you anon, your contributions will not go unnapreciated

>>17947755
I mean if the guy is anything like me he saw the thread on the home page and stumbled across the guy. If you want to believe him it just makes it even more brilliant.

Fucking spirit realm, lol...

>>17950596

Thank you too, Anon :)

I'm glad I could help :)

I'm awake now. So, lets start with the answers :)

>>17949139
>>17949296

First, a statement: there is no such a thing as monsters, ghosts, poltergeists, demons, succubi and so on, They are all human souls like us. Most of them are considered as fallen souls.

THE MEANING OF THE FALL

But don't misunderstand about the "fallen" thing. They are not fallen angels either. One thing you must need to learn is that every soul can fall, independently of its actual soul evolution state. Once the soul reach the human level, it acquires something very important: Free Will. And with that it can do choices by its own in the continued infinity soul evolution system.

And with choices, it can choose to do good and (unfortunately, for those who want to be bad) to do bad things to other souls (incarnated or not) and to itself to (directly, or indirectly as a consequence to do harm to others). And every time a soul chooses to do bad things, they stop its soul evolution process, and start to stagnate. While others continue to evolve, to be a better soul, it stop its own grow and (in the majority of the cases) it deviate from the right path.

NOTE: When I said "fall" is not like a soul will go back to the basis of the soul evolution process and return to the Realms below its own (e. g.: Animal Realm, Vegetable Realm and so on). There is no such a thing. The path is in ONE WAY ONLY, and it is in direction to the top. YOU CANNOT GO your soul evolution process in a backward way. A Human soul have Free Will in its own system and this is not only a major step in the evolution system, but a very defined and bold line that says: "from this point on you cannot go back any more." The same for every other major steps before the Human Realm. For example, you will never see an animal reincarnate as a plant.

So, when I said a soul can fall, it means it can stagnate in its soul evolution process, for years, centuries or even millennials.

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>>17949139
>>17949296

INTERACTION BETWEEN SOULS

That said, lets move on, to the topic about how souls can interact with each other. As I said earlier more than one occasion here in this thread, what matters the most in the Spiritual Realm (and, of course, in the Material Realm) is the power of thought.

With the power of thought, if you try harder together with many others to use it to do good deeds, you could achieve wonders. For you, for your companions, and for everyone on this planet.

But you can use it to do bad things, too. And that is the real (and dangerous) problem. And in theses days what you can see in the world? Chaos! A crescent and downward (energetically speaking) Spiral of Chaos taking over the entire planet bit by bit.

Actually, at this time frame of the Earth there are a lot of low level souls doing bad things, acting in both, Material and Spiritual Realm, by misusing its power of thoughts. Souls incarnated and (mainly) souls in spirit form only (souls that are not incarnated on this planet but live around it, around us, around our lives). Its a real War happening every second in the Spiritual Realm around Earth.

And as I said earlier on this thread, we, the incarnated ones, are in a certain disadvantage here. We are trapped in matter (our material bodies) with most of our true knowledge, memories and our senses (and senses' capabilities) blocked or hindered to the point we cannot ever have the idea that is much more out there, out of the (absurdly limited in many aspects) Material Realm.

And the souls around us that want to do bad things, are always trying to corrupt ourselves, every time! And remember, THEY DON'T NEED TO SLEEP. The only ones that need to sleep are us because of our material bodies. If our mental defenses could be down during the awake state time we live our lives, it could be worst when we go to sleep.

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>>17949139
>>17949296

Because, like it or not, our bodies are a little more of a protection to us than you can ever imagine. And when we sleep, our connection with the body loosens a bit (in many degrees, depending of the soul, its evolution levels, and so on), and we are "exposed" to the Spiritual Realm in many levels of a lack of awareness.

If we are not mentally strong, if we are not always thinking in good deeds (the primordial fact to help you grow your defenses), you will be an easy target to all low level human souls (the ones that do bad things, not the ones in the initial evolution state of humans).

I'M AFRAID OF NO GHOST... WHO DO YOU WANNA CALL?

Are you afraid of GHOSTS, DEMONS, MONSTERS and other things like that? If your answer is YES, think again! All this "beings" are nothing more, nothing less than human souls. Low level souls that like to do bad things in some cases, or just lost souls wandering around in other cases. So don't be afraid. You are a soul too ;)

Every time you hear about a haunted house, think about it: there are one or more human soul, trapped in the Material Realm. Souls that could not reach the Spiritual realm because of its own limitations (they do bad things, they are addict, they a trapped to the material needs, and so on). Reasons to do bad things can be endless. Endless and easy ways. But to do the right thing is what matters the most, and every soul must fight so, the good deeds, the good thoughts can prevail, always.

And you can help these souls too. With the power of thought you can help them find their own tracks again. Think in a positive way, think you want them to be helped by higher level souls, think it with love and compassion and you are doing good to them. They are like our own family... Human Family. They just lost its way somehow.

>>17940450
ugh listen kids, lucid dreaming is not an escapist, masturbatory mental retreat, unless you're doing 25 to life in a prison. It is not a video game, where you fulfill power fantasies.
Step One: Dreaming, generally passive and composed of insignificant detail.
Step Two: Lucid Dreaming, you are aware that you are dreaming and control the dream.
Step Three: Pellucid Dreaming, where you are aware you are dreaming and let forms arise and fall away as they will, you let the dream run it's course without interfering, this prepares you for
Step Four: Deepest Sight, you are aware between dreams, there is nothing there, no dreams, no stories, no silly shapes arise from the trash of the day or it's worries, just awareness. Nothing to be aware of, this is the you that existed before your parents were born, the nameless awareness of which what you call your Self is really only a pinched little contraction within. Sleep is the highest form of meditation, the only holiday from the self and it's suffering, Lucid Dreamless Sleep is experience you can bring into your waking life that grounds you in the here and now. Less anxiety about the future, less nostalgia or regret about the past. The past and the future are not real, too much concern with what is not real is psychosis.
There is no Time, only Now.

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>>17949139
>>17949296

ASK FOR HELP TO YOUR SPIRITUAL GUIDES

If you want to help other lost souls and don't know how to do it, just ask for help to your Spiritual Guides. But remember to ask it with all good intentions, with pure thoughts about it, and from the bottom of your heart. On the contrary, you will not reach your Spiritual Guide and other low level fallen souls will be glad with the opportunity to try to trick you. Remember: there are a lot of lost souls around Earth lurking at us 24/7 always waiting for the opportunity to try to trick us, to convince us to stray our path in the soul 's evolution system, to stop us to do good things to others and so on. And if the opportunity appears they will love to trick you and make you think they are your Spiritual Guides and will do whatever it takes to make you fall. And they will not rush. They will do this on a way you will not ever realize you are been tricked.

So, don't lower your mental defenses. The best way to do that is always have good thoughts in your head (the thought itself), and in your heart (the felling generating by the thought).

THE SOUL APPEARANCE OF A CRIMINAL

That said, you can now understand that, the more bad things they made - in their incarnated life and in their soul life - the more Karma they will be accumulating, and the more prejudice to their own soul they will achieve. The more prejudice to the soul, the more deformed it becomes. So, some souls are so deformed because of their past lives of crimes, so their souls appears to be real monstrosities. And as you know there is no end a soul can evolve, so there is no end on what bottom a soul can reach by committing crimes (against others and simultaneously, against itself).

If a soul commit a crime against others, this bad actions will hit its own soul too. If the soul commit crimes against its own (like suicide, addiction, and so on), their souls will pay the price too. That is the Law.

>>17950995
Hey, could you give me some insight anon?
When I have normal dreams they are usually wish fulfillment dreams, with them I always get what makes me feel loved, comfortable and happy. Usually they turn into lucid dreams the same time when shit starts happening. There's this sense that an oppressive presence wants to end me or make me do awful things.
So, assuming I did a lot of enemies, or a big one, in my past lives and now they are actively making me lucid dream, when I have no intention to, what the fuck should I do?
There's also always this thing, when everything starts falling into place in my life is like some external force pulls me away and make me fuck everything up, like I'm being controlled from the outside.
How should I pay this debt or at least make these entities less angry with me, last time it even tried to convince me to kill myself.
Any ideas are welcomed.

>>17951189
Also, for the longest time I feel like I was some kind of criminal before and whenever something bad happens to someone close a voice inside me keeps yelling that it was my fault.

>>17944642
The last time we proved it to you, you were so hysterical at the fact that we saw what you did that one time, that you made yourself forget.

>>17944765
>And, again, the price you must pay by your crimes in your time incarnated is normally bigger than your own crimes. Because is not only the crime, but all the crescent prejudice along the time passing by that you brought to others (involved directly or indirectly) with your own wrong acts. You can really be considered lucky if you can pay the price by your crimes, immediately after you commit it. Otherwise, as time passes, your debits increases indefinitely.

That's the wonkiest explanation of the law of attraction I've ever read. I think your exposure to bankers in this lifetime has severely colored your psyche into terms of loans and deadlines.

Anyways. Spirit can do whatever it wants. But, once you start creating worlds for yourself via Lucid Dreaming, this means that you can only experience the cycles you yourself are capable of imagining. So naturally, what you give out is what you get back. That's the recursive feed back cycle. It's not implicitly "interest" and "spiritual coin," although that's certainly one way to look at it. It's just thought is deeper than matter, and if you pee in the pool, then that's what you'll be swimming in, on all levels of your experience.

You can always just leave a cycle by erasing your memories of that cycle. Even if you get "paid back" from actions of a previous cycle, by forgetting how to be the person that would receive those consequences, you become numb to their effect. It does make it difficult to climb the spiritual ladder if you keep wiping your own thoughts, though. By the way, did you know many humans don't have any memory of incarnating? Fascinating.

>>17951189
Ignore them. Make it clear that you're not interested in participating in a Lucid Dream with those sources of thought, and then don't. Bonus points if you can view them not as oppressive "bad guys," but as valuable and validated sources of consciousness that have every right to exist even as you do. And then to, in all fairness and honesty choose to ignore them anyways, even as they go on existing outside your sphere of awareness.

The other option is to try and "fight them" or whatever, but in terms of immortal spirits this just continually attracts you to them. You ever do that one where you destroy the physical component of a cycle you didn't want to participate in, but then you find yourself in a curiously similar situation, with a different physical component of what appears to be the same kind of cycle? "The faces and the names change, but the streets stay the same."

Yeah. That's spirit in action. You can kill the body, but that just makes the spirit come back again, in a different form.

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>>17949139
>>17949296

THE WORST BLIND IS THE ONE WHO DOESN'T WANT TO SEE

Trying to help other souls is a good thing we all can all do that at any moment, but it is no easy thing to do because of the fallen soul's own "fault", own "problems". Imagine a fallen soul always crying for help, desperately, and a lot of good souls around trying to help and the fallen soul refuses the help... or worst: the soul is falling so deep in its own darkness that cannot ever see a lot of other good souls at its surroundings trying to help.

Now imagine it in a large scale. In the actual time of our planet Earth we have a lot of fallen souls wandering around the globe. They are not in hundreds or thousands of souls, they are (at last) in billions times. Now imagine a good part of it crying for help, and a much more number of good souls around trying to help them and they continue to refuse help or unable to see that same help. This is the true scenario of our Planet in these days... and it is very sad.

And the good souls will never help them by force because of the free will. It will be considered a crime to force help to others, and a good soul - a good one - will never commit a crime like this. There are rules and good souls know that this rules are there to help turn the Spiritual Realm always a good place for anybody.

HOW SOULS INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER

Well, we are almost at the part I will be able to answer your initial question, but all this background information was necessary to help you all (i. e.: the ones who still don't know about it) try to understand how things work in the Spiritual Realm.

Basically, souls interact with each others by the power of thought. With thoughts you can communicate with each others independently, or as a whole group. And doesn't matter the distance, because you can sens anyone you want doesn't matter where this soul is in the Existence.

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>>17944371
>>17944475
>>17944526
>>17944593
>>17944654
>>17944692

hey look it's all garbage

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>>17941244
>awake in spirit form

dis nigga

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>>17949139
>>17949296

With thoughts you can create anything your imagination can produce in the Spiritual Realm, too. With thoughts you can be in anywhere you desire, instantaneously, and so on.

That said, you can comprehend that with good thoughts you can produce good vibes, and with bad thoughts you can produce bad vibes. If you interact with other soul with good thoughts you are doing it good. If you interact with other souls with bad thoughts you are doing it bad.

SOUL LEVEL AND PLACE

You already know that exists and infinity number of levels a soul can heach based on its own evolution process (i. e.: be good to others, help others, and so on). And all souls are grouped in this levels based by their own merit. So, more advanced souls will be in places more evolved, more radiant, more energetic, with a energy vibration much higher than the levels below, but much lower then the levels above. And a low level soul (not necessary a bad soul) will be in places, dimensions, levels, much lower in terms of energy, vibration and merit then souls more evolved.And the higher the energy vibration of a level compared to your own soul vibration, it will be a natural barrier you will never be able to reach or penetrate without your own merit. Only when you advance your soul in this souls' level up system you will be able to advance to a better Realm, a better place, a better dimension

But independently of your own soul level you can reach anytime you want the lower levels. You just need to vibrate less (energetically speaking) so you could enter the lower Realms, dimensions and so on.

SOULS GROUP BY ENERGETIC AFFINITY

So, now consider that we are souls, have our own energetic levels, our own merits, and we are living here in this planet called Earth, incarnated, so we could learn what we need to learn.

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>>17949139
>>17949296

You now know that Earth is not a Paradise. In the planet evolution's scale, Earth is considered a place of atonement, and a level above Earth will be considered a place of regeneration, and so on. One day Earth will be a place of regeneration and no low level souls (and correspondent bad souls) will be permitted to running free or incarnated. And some people says that the time is near.

But we still have a lot of trouble here just because of that - the transition that soon we need to face (we and the planet together). And every time a world needs to pass this test (from a place of atonement to a place of regeneration) there is a War. All souls that know they will not pass the minimal level requirement to level up are working against all this process trying to corrupt as many other souls as they could.

Also, we know for sure that there is a lot of bad souls reincarnate in this planet that, conscious or unconscious work together with the bad low level souls to bring this crescent Chaos on Earth (and all other souls, incarnated or not). So, you know that souls are naturally grouped by their levels, not only in places but too, in the same environment, working and living together all the time in the Spiritual Realm.

And these souls will almost interact between themselves all the time. And a low level soul will never be able to interact with a upper level soul if the same upper level soul doesn't want. Therefore, the most powerful one always rule. But to be powerful in the Spiritual Realm you need to be always good to others. That is the Law. And the more you help others the more you grow so you will be able to help many more other souls, and the growth cycle repeats forever.

>>17951446
Hey man, I'm this guy >>17944767
and I'm really glad to see you're still rolling on with this thread. This is one of the best thread's on /x for a while.

>>17951325
hey look its a shit post

>>17951457

I'm glad you are liking it :)

I'm still trying to answer other anons following some post order here. But, because I need to write all this knowledge on-the-fly (and with my own words: from mind to the computer) in order to try to help, this is taking some time (and a lot of type errors are accumulating). So sorry for any inconvenience, redundancy, and so on.

Also, I already spent three days (Friday, "Caturday" and today) in this thread but I hope it will not be a waste of time to you all.

I hope this knowledge will be incorporated in the knowledge of all anons here that needs to know all this stuff. I believe there is no site on the Internet with all this information together (that's why I'm trying to write all this stuff in some logical order).

The only problem here is that I can only pass a condensed version of this knowledge. But with this, I believe all anons here will be able to search for more knowledge and also know how to evaluate it in the future: they will know if the knowledge that they will find is right or wrong.

And if it helps other anons in their "search-for-knowledge" paths, I'll be glad, very glad :)

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>>17949139
>>17949296

INTERACTION BETWEEN INCARNATED AND NON-INCARNATED ONES

We already know that we are here incarnated with limited awareness of our surroundings in the Spiritual Realm, and there are a lot of low level and bad souls lurking around us, waiting (BE WARNED: they are masters of patience, have access to all places and don't need to sleep) for the best opportunity to pass through our mental defenses and make us stray from the right path.

But, if you can maintain your vibration levels (energetically speaking) in a higher status all the time it will be enough to be able to repel them, permanently. But if your mental defenses down a bit, they will attack. And they can not only make direct attacks to souls incarnated in this planet: they can use other souls incarnated that are at their same energetic level to do the job for them. Because they are weak and cannot interfere directly (like they would love to do) on the Material Realm, they need the help from other bad low level souls like them that are incarnated here, to act in their place.

Souls at the same levels, with the same thoughts, always work together: for good and for bad. The bad souls will always do some influence (in some cases is almost a commandment) to other souls incarnated at the same level, to do bad things to others they want to target. The intentions is to help lower their target defenses, make them commit errors, or ever direct crimes so they can fall too. And if they succeed it will be one plus in their horde. And no one in your right mind want this to happen.

To help convince the bad incarnated ones, the bad low level souls will promise many villainous things to their incarnated tools could do the job. Most of the promises involve some kind of award in some addict or nefarious act they will help the incarnated tool satisfy itself, before and/or after the request.

>>17941244
>lucid dreaming is spiritual and not just a dream with higher lucidity

alright retard

>>17941244
Oh what a fucking faggot

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>>17941244
> you, awake, in spirit form

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>>17941827
>try to stick finger through hand
>it goes it the hand omg omg
>quickly call out for my high school biology teacher and make her give me a bj
>after a while someone stops me or something
>"you are not ready" something something
>try to look for my spirit guide in the dream
>wake up
the dream was cool and the way I woke up felt amazing

>>17940450
No.
If you dream about the same exact people or AI
They will die or disappear.
I've followed them around one time in a dream.
They usually die.
Then you are left alone.

>Can you accumulate a lifetime of memories there?

You can.
Sometimes you'll have a Déjà vu when walking past a place cause you've been there in a distanced dream.

>>17951755
Was your teacher a guy

Again, thank you for the patience anon. Could you tell us more about miracles and when the mind has power over the matter?
Really appreciate!

>>17945300
Hi is there a chance i can talk to you on Fb? I'd really love talking to you cause i think you can help me learn more. I too am very spiritual and have some theories of my own that i can see you also confirm, so i think we are in the same page. How can i send you my fb so that it remains private?

I had a lucid nightmare once.
>Basically the equivalent of a lucid dream, except there is a second, malignant dream master in there with me.
>We keep switching scenarios and summoning weapons to fight one another.
>Manage to blow its head off with some exploding shotgun shells after what felt like hours.
>Its head slowly regenerates (the entire thing looked like some pitch black lich)
>Stares through me with its black pits
>"Fool, you are still too weak. I can make a second in this place feel like a year."
>Alarm wakes me up

After reading this thread I have a lot of guilt about a previous at least semi-lucid dream I had

I was having a weird time, was scared to be alone at night, so I kept a steak knife on my bedside table. In the dream, a Dark Stranger approached from down the hallway. I was standing in front of my bed, and I was terrified. I grabbed the knife and stabbed him in the shoulder as soon as he got close enough. I remember him screaming something like "I just wanted to know!", still feeling very uneasy about his presence inside my house. Upon waking I felt very guilty about having stabbed first and asked questions later.

I don't think that was the first dream I've had with that same mysterious stranger, and it wasn't the last. He seems to stay quite a bit farther away from me now and never approaches.

>>17941244
Kill yourself

>>17952136

Learn by your errors and mistakes from previous dreams and use it in your life to be more and more a better person everyday and continue to grow your soul in the right path ;)

>>17951985

Fb == Facebook? If it is, I'm sorry but (believe it!) I really don't have a Facebook account (I don't like social networks at all). And how people could share contacts privately here on 4Chan?

>>17952266
Thanks I'll uh, try not to stab people in real life for being in my house uninvited, I guess.

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>>17949139
>>17949296

DIRECTLY: BAD SOULS MANIPULATE OTHER SOULS IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM

For most of the bad low level souls, in the reality they all live together, the baddest and (in their conception) the strongest ones always rules the others. In this places all bad but weak souls are constantly manipulated directly by the bad and "stronger" souls in the lowest levels of the Spiritual Realm. And when I said "directly" it is not a figure of speech. They literally can interact soul by soul transforming the weakest ones in mind slaves. They can control what they talk, how they move and so on. The worst kind of enslavement possible and are made in the lowest levels of the Spiritual Realm.

INDIRECTLY: BAD SOULS MANIPULATE OTHER SOULS INCARNATED IN THE MATERIAL REALM

But here in the Material Realm (our actual place that is a little, finite and a rough imitation from the Spiritual Realm) there are some cases of similar behavior. The goals are the same: try to bring more Chaos to all the Existence. But there are some differences and reasons to do so. In the Material Realm the target of the bad low level souls expand a little: here they want to pray on the careless incarnated soul ones.

The reason to pray on the "living" can be many, but we can group it all in at last two main reasons:

1: LOCALIZED: They want to settle unresolved past feuds from past lives (in a worst way possible, including revenge) or;

2: GLOBALIZED: They want to bring Chaos to the world and will pray on anyone they think they could "bring down."

As said earlier in this thread, the bad low level souls that are non-incarnated have many advantages over the incarnated ones: including on the list is the capacity to analyze the soul of this victims. And this is no extraordinary feature, because in the Spiritual Realm every soul can see other souls.

>>17944654
>And depends on your soul level, you will always be closest to souls at your same level.
And how can i level up ?

>>17952779

As I said before in this thread the only way to level up your soul is doing good deeds to others. But it needs to come from your heart. You need to do good deeds from the bottom of your heart, always, with pure sentiments in your mind.

Forced actions of good deeds or, worst, wanting some kind of reward, is useless. And if you try doing things that way with all this bad thoughts in mind, you will do it wrong. And instead of leveling up your soul, you will stagnate. And in consequence, this bad actions of yours will lower your spiritual/soul defenses (you will vibrate less in a low energy level stage). And you will become more of a target to all bad low level souls around, to prey on you 24/7.

OUTSIDE CHARITY THERE IS NO SALVATION

The true happiness is to serve others, specifically people in need. Help others in a material and in a spiritual way of action. The more you help people, more happy a soul can become, more powerful too. And that way it can grow naturally. So, using that method, you can level up your soul any time.

And with "practice", it will become more and more natural this kind of action by your part, turning this way of leveling up into some kind of automatic mode, always enable :)

Once you start to do good things to others you never stop :)

You need to have Love and Compassion, Love and Gratitude, towards others. Always!

bump?

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>>17949139
>>17949296

FACT: In the Spiritual Realm there is no disguise. If you are a bad one, everyone can see it at a glance. There is no way to hide it.

The one way to hide who you really are, is become more stronger (in a way of leveling up your soul). It means that in the Spiritual Realm the souls in a level below you will not be able to obtain information about your soul if you don't want them to know. The more leveled up your soul, all below you will not be able to obtain any information about you if you don't want it to happen. Also, they will never be able to talk to you or to localize wherever you are if you don't want.

But here in the Material Realm, as incarnated souls, with all our senses very limited (and many soul capabilities blocked) doesn't matter if you are much more leveled up then the bad low level souls if you cannot be on alert 24/7 like you could as a free soul in the Spiritual Realm. You can be spotted easily. But, of course, depending on how much higher is your level you could have a natural protection against some rank of bad low level souls.

But all day (and night) there are many incarnated souls that "fall on their hands" because of some level of negligence with their natural (or trained) spiritual defenses. The attack results can vary in a wide range of the target's behaviors. From the victims having a bad mood to a "total control" of their soul. Any action that can unbalance the target's mind is a bonus results to all this bad low level souls.

As I stated numerous times before in this thread, the well successful attacks have all the intent of make a soul fall - to make a soul stray from its natural path (their evolution).

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>>17949139
>>17949296

NOTE: I know that this answer in particular is taking too long but I think it is necessary. Also, I think in the next post (or two) I will be able to finally reach the important part of your question: DEMONIC POSSESSION, and I will try to talk about "EXORCISM", too.

Strictly speaking, I will try to show you what really happens in an "Exorcism" during a "Demonic Possession", what many people do it wrong (in most cases because the absence of the right Spiritual Knowledge), and what really needs to be done in any case (and, perhaps, try to invent a new name to substitute the word "exorcism").

I'm going to sleep now. Later if the thread is still open I will try to finish this answer and also try to answer other anons in this thread.

>>17951189
>>17951192

I did not forget you anon. Once I awake, if this thread is still going, I will try to answer your question too

But >>17951264 already gave you an interesting answer.

>>17951250

I have some comments about what you wrote there too. I hope I will have time for all this.

>>17951855

I will try to answer it later after I sleep, if the thread is still running. This is indeed an interesting topic to discuss.

>>17952416

I think this test in your dreams is more about helping you to gain more self control, and not about an specific action to an specific case.

But, indeed, if someone enters your house uninvited I think you need to do something to protect you, your family and try not to commit any crime against your own soul. To do that you always need to choose well a way of action to try to solve a tricky situation like this.

I'm gonna sleep (for real) now :)

>>17945580
Listen here fucking little bitch, the thing is i dont even like-know them from anything other than knowing how their face looks like, the thing is that the weirder the dream gets its easier to start lucid dreaming because you are more likely to tell reality from dream very easily even in the deep state of trance one goes into when sleeping

Well have you ever heard of these stories of people having such vivid hallucinations in the space of around 2 weeks... They'd be married and have kids etc but then find out they never existed because they were hallucinating
Like a near death experience or a bad drug trip into a coma or something could cause it
Its a bit similar to what you're going on about in a way

>>17953838
schizophrenia?

Fuck, anybody remember years ago when that guy was telling the story about the place he kept visiting in his dreams? Everything was powered by water or something? Shit.

I've got a few stories. Neither are lucid dreaming but they're similar to what OP's talking about. First happened to a buddy of mine.
>dude is having issues sleeping
>starts trying different meds to help with insomnia
>friends start telling him they saw him last night at a bar or something and he has no memory of it
>eventually realizes he's been hardcore sleepwalking to the point of going around and just doing stuff without being conscious of it at all
This is just prefacing to show how bad his sleep issues were. This is where it gets fucked up
>one night he has a dream
>the dream is an entire fifty years of life
>lives his life, every day, wakes up in the morning and goes to bed at night, et cetera
>gets married
>has kids
>his kids grow up
>he lives an entire life in real fucking time
>wakes up
>as far as his brain can tell, he just went to bed at the age of sixty/seventy something and woke up back in college
>freaks out, desperately asks people where his wife is
>completely fucks him up for months

How do you come back from that? How do you even fucking live your life?
That happened looooong ago when he was in college, he's legitimately married now (not to the woman he married in his dream, which was my first question).
Shit's fucked.
Other story is way less interesting and is effectively the same thing. I once lived three days in a dream. Way less devastating obviously, but still really fucked with me. I woke up, went to work, hung out with friends, went to bed, dreamed, et cetera. Then woke up and realized none of it was real. Really fucking weird to deal with.

I have an inquiry.
The first time I tried it, I succeeded even though I half assed it. I might've full on astral projected because I couldn't tell that I was dreaming, everything was vibrant with no hint of it being a dream, until I realized I was dreaming. Then I kind of sperged out and the atmosphere changed tone and I woke up.

Now I try with the explicit purpose of lucid dreaming and everything is usually staticky and blurry like I'm not picking up the channel right. I'm always sluggish, and I can never impose my will right. I always rush to change things, and sometimes I briefly get what I want before it all goes tumbling down, and other times it all turns on me.

I'm guessing it's my desperation to explore that's fucking everything up, but does anyone have any tips?

>>17941244
>interact in the spirit realm
its called astral projection you pleb
and i'm pretty sure lucid dreams arent astral projection, they're done on the mental plane not astral, or they're an isolated spot of the astral. not sure desu

>>17941827
if you desire to rape women and suck man cock just because you'll face no consequences, you should sort that out first.

>>17944371
>>17944475
>>17944526
mostly right but a few things i feel like i should mention
the "spirit realm" aka the astral doesn't contain the physical, the astral is just a state of consciousness. the more conscious and the higher the vibrate the higher you go. so you can be between the two which may be what you're thinking. there is no location

you can't distinguish between astral projection and lucid dreaming and that is causing a lot of your information to be complete shit (unless you're doing it intentionally) let me break it down:
lucid dream = being aware of your dreaming. its just that: dreaming.
astral projection = leaving your body to enter reality

I lucid dream and have my own world, just had a dream last night actually. Really weird, I have a light and a dark side to my world. I can't control much though, and if I do I feel it's mostly subconscious.

>>17940450
When I was a teenager, I started throwing around ideas for writing a story but never got around to fleshing it out on paper. Been over a decade now and I keep returning to that concept and expanding it. Feels like it's this massive saga that's common knowledge almost (due to how long I've been imagining it) and yet I've never shared it with anyone. I don't know if it's a shame that no one else can enjoy it or not, but until I get the opportunity and drive to really commit it'll stay unknown I guess. It's especially daunting considering how many years I've been developing it mentally, like it's gone through so many phases. Like imagine committing to a tv series that you've already prep'd 10 seasons of. Maybe one day, but I'm not fussed either way

>>17953878

Reminds me of that story from Junji Ito about the guy whose dreams become progressively longer every night he sleeps until they last for thousands of years.

In your friend's case I feel like it would be more the 'feeling' of having lived that long with sporadic memories giving the impression that you lived a long time.

Well, I wake up already. I will start with the pending answers now.

>>17954557
Give us the elevator pitch.

>>17953838

In dreams you are almost interacting as a soul in the Spiritual Realm. In the Spiritual Existence there are a lot of places, levels, and dimensions that can be used where time works in a different way. What could be days, weeks, months inside the dream state, was only a couple of hours of sleeping.

And when you are in a sleeping state, your soul is more freer from your material body and you continue your life, your existence there, in the Spiritual Realm. Normally, the only one who needs to recover by sleeping is your body, not your soul.

That said we could at any moment in your life span incarnated spent a lot of time in the Spiritual Realm during our time sleeping, because there are places in the Spiritual Realm where time goes much more slower than in your Material Realm.

REMEMBER: THE REAL LIFE IS IN THE SPIRITUAL REALM

And in some cases, the time spent there was so vivid that when your body awakes you becomes confused by many reasons. The primarily one is that we are here incarnated to learn and we need to forget most of our past lives before this incarnation. And when you awake from a sleeping state, your soul goes back to be limited by your material body and all restrictions are again applied.

When we go to sleep, our souls can be more freed from the material body and some restrictions applied are loosen on purpose.

For many souls (primarily the advanced ones) being incarnated is a real torture. So, when we go to sleep is the time when we can go back to our real home, our real lives, with more senses unblocked then in our awake state in our incarnated mission.

So, this is not schizophrenia or anything similar like a bad psychological condition, so don't worry.

If you want an advice: train all day to always being awake in your dreams and always try to remember everything when awake. As time goes by you will become strong and, perhaps, could free your own mind inside this incarnated mission (and not waiting when you die to be real free).

>>17953878
>>17954560

Please, read this:

>>17955429

>>17955442
No, that's wholly irrelevant and fuck off with your dumb shit.

>>17954557

Every idea we have incarnated is nothing more than something we carry from the time we spent in the Spiritual Realm as free souls. Be this your own experiences, be it others experiences, be it a hint some soul gave us about something (mostly our technological and moral advancement in order to help our civilization grow are hints from the Spiritual Realm) and so on.

And all people incarnated can be a channel to this, to obtain all information needed from him/herself, or primarily, from other souls living in the Spiritual Realm that are more advanced than us. Be it an invention idea, be it a novel idea, be it a TV series idea... the list goes on.

And what matters the most is to share all this channeled information with all Mankind. That is the reason you are channeling something. Be it for your own help, or to help others.

There are levels and levels of the capacity for channeling information that varies from each person incarnated. So, while some people will have only fuzzy ideas (in many levels), others will have the most clear ones.

>>17954087

Don't be so limited and seek for the Real Truth. The real life is in the Spiritual Realm, and you can visit it every night your body are sleeping and your soul are more or less freer from it, so your senses are a little (or much better) in that state than during your awake state incarnated.

As I said in my first post on this thread, Lucid Dream is simply and stupid: you (your real self, your soul), awake, in the Spiritual Realm.

Technically speaking we all live our lives in the Spiritual Realm ever when we are incarnated, because the Material Realm is a little portion embedded in the Spiritual Realm. So you are always living in both "planes" when you are incarnated, but you have your senses very limited in this condition (and in the majority of the cases, you cannot ever perceive the existence of the Spiritual Realm).

So I will, AGAIN, alert all of you: don't be tricked in thinking Lucid Dream is something you could "created in your mind" as a "parallel world" so you all could "escape from reality". This is wrong and you are all being tricked. And this can lead your soul to fall really hard if you are careless.

Once you can accept the truth, you will be able to grow without problems, without adversities, and will always staying in the real path so your could evolve yourself (i. e.: your soul) infinitely.

>>17953979

Try to ask for help to your Spiritual Guides. But always ask with pure intents in your heart (and your reasons to Lucid Dream). If you do it right they will help you.

>>17955546
I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but you're confusing lucid dreaming and astral projection. Look up astral projection and you'll get what you're saying, but lucid dreaming is just dreaming. Which can involve other beings, but it's mostly a personal experience that uses symbolism and similar aspects to teach you.

Other than that, I agree with what you're saying. But it's not lucid dreaming. Calling it lucid dreaming is misleading. Lucid dreaming just means you're dreaming, but lucid. It's the definition of the word. Read peoples experiences with astral projection and I'm sure they'll line up with what you're saying.

>>17944962
I'll take this into consideration in my travels and pursuits, thanks anon

Hey /x/, so I'm new to this board. I'm not really new to lucid dreaming though, it's something I used to train myself to do for fun as a child.

For a while I've been frequently having painful nightmares. Usually I have full control and can wake myself up, but not lately. I actually feel pain in these dreams, and they always involve the same entity wearing red armor. This torture ranges from physical to sexual and I almost always get sleep paralysis.

Thoughts? I really want some genuine advice, I'm just a Christian scrub with no understanding of this kind of stuff, I'll take whatever I can get.

>>17955603

But this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you. When you go to sleep your soul becomes more or less free from your material body. Your body needs to sleep but you (i. e.: you as a soul) do not. So, as a soul more or less freer from your material body you continue to live your life. But, normally, we as incarnated souls during the sleeping time of our bodies could not stay in a awake state closer to our own "normal state" as incarnated ones, so when we remember "our dreams" they are really fuzzy and crazy and when we awake to the material life the first thing we think is we could not have control over our "dreams".

But in this same sleeping state of our material bodies, when our soul are a little more (or less) free from them, we could stayed in a much more higher (or just a different kind of) awareness, that our programmed state as incarnated ones will not permit us to remember when we awake again (after "sleeping") in the other day because it could interfere with our "mission" or "learning" in the incarnation life.

And when you Lucid Dream, you are (again) a soul more or less detached from your material body, in a awareness much closer to our awareness level when we are awake in the material world. That is why we think is so (or more) vivid the experience.

My suggestion to you: acquire more Spiritual Background to your knowledge database, so you could expand your experiences in Lucid Dream (and knowing what I think is the real truth). One of my suggestions is reading the books from Allan Kardec:

Star with the Spirits' Book, and later choose whatever you want to read. But try read all of them (if you could).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Kardec#External_links

They are all free and you can easily find them on the Internet in many languages (and formats) you want. To know the real truth about the Spiritual Realm you don't need to be affiliated in any secret society or paying for some "occult" material in order to learn.

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>>17951855

> Again, thank you for the patience anon. Could you tell us more about miracles and when the mind has power over the matter?

MIRACLES

Before we enter in the topic about Miracles we need to understand about our situation here on Planet Earth. This planet belongs to the category of Planets of Expiation, where a lot of infant souls (souls that are in the earlier evolution stage of humankind in moral and knowledge) are here incarnated so they could learn, they could evolve. Also, planet like these also can house other souls that didn't achieve a minimal stage of their soul evolution in other planets like Earth, that evolve from Planet of Expiation to Planet of Regeneration.

It means that when a Planet need to evolves from one low category to a higher category, the souls incarnated in that time can only continue to live there if they already achieve a compatible soul evolution stage. On the contrary they a banished to other worlds in equal or below conditions from the initial planet before the evolution. And this choice depends on how low a soul fell. And there are souls here that comes from many and many other worlds fallen constantly for centuries or ever millennials. And unfortunately this continue to happen in a accumulative way for billions of years.

Many of this souls' original worlds are full of advanced technologies and cultural aspects, but every time the fall they are sent to worlds much more primitive in material bodies much more limited (and also primitive ones), so they can try to learn the hard way and also try to help the local initial human souls (in the evolution process) to advance at last in the knowledge area (because in the moral area they don't succeed.

But, to a soul strayed from its path there always an infinite number of chances to try again at it disposal, but not forever on the same planet because they evolve too and cannot house them anymore. So they are sent to low level planets to start again.

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>>17940537

Okay, /x/: I'm glad I found this thread.

I am a 26-year-old, caucasian, middle-class, university-educated Canadian man. I have had many lucid dreams in my life (more than 20, at least) and I have come to thoroughly understand them through not just study, but experience as well.

Lucid dreams (and dreams in general) are your imagination.
Have you ever daydreamed? I mean, just really spaced out (say, during class, or waiting for something), and got absorbed in your own imagination, unaware of the world around you for a moment? That's basically a form of real dreaming.

When we sleep, our bodies essentially create conditions of sensory deprivation. We typically prefer conditions with as little light, sound, and stress on our bodies as possible. This kind of does a 'hard shutdown' of the world outside our minds. In this state, our imaginations can run free without having to think about our immediate surroundings. Without any sight, we eventually see what we imagine more vividly, without distracting sounds, we hear imagined sound clearly, and this is a big one; without being conscious of our physical sense of touch, we begin to fully feel imagined sensations and feelings as well.

Now here's where the "lucid" part comes into play:
When we dream, and are lost in our own imaginations, we are still in control of our imaginations, and thus, our dreams.
The thing is - any time time we're simply using our imaginations to daydream, we're aware of the world around us. We can conjure up the image and sound of some crazy monster, imagine the texture of its surface, the force of its strength, but still be aware of reality (the world around us) to know "that's scary, but it's not real, of course. Just my imagination."

However, during sleep, we cannot see, hear, feel the world around us to know that what we're imagining isn't real. Furthermore, with the body paralysis of the R.E.M (rapid-eye-movement) sleep state, we cannot even move our muscles...

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>>17956106
>cont...

...which only confuses the fight-or-flight response that arises when we now "know" the imagined monster is real, causing that "moving through water" feeling when we feel the urgent need to run or attack in a dream.

The only time it is possible to experience a lucid dream is when we imagine something so completely unbelievable (or blatantly dream-like, or even simply realizing that you can't remember how you got where you are), and we are in a light enough sleep cycle to be aware that we simply cannot accept the thing as being real, even without a present real-world to compare it to, only then do we finally stop to think: "Wait... this is definitely a dream. It's the only explanation."

THEN, the dream is lucid.
From there, the lucid state, or "being aware that you're in a dream", can last what feels like seconds, or even weeks (haha now I bet I have your attention), depending on any number of several factors that I have discovered, and occasionally circumvented:

A big one is trying to move your body/head. During this lighter sleep cycle, even a simple "I'm dreaming! I'll just walk over there and-" will jostle you awake when you try to move your legs. The sensation of your real legs rubbing against whatever you're sleeping on will break the 'immersion' of the dream, and make you realize the world around you, awakening you.
To get around this, and this one's the first big hurdle, is to imagine moving your body. No, not just imagine, BELIEVE you are moving your body, imagining the FEELING of your arms/legs moving, the sight of them moving, the feeling of moving forwards, etc. This even applies to flying, eye-lasers, anything. It's exactly like Morpheus tells Neo in the Matrix: You have to BELIEVE it, KNOW it. That makes it real in the dream.

Another one is your sense of awareness. You have to keep reminding yourself that it's a dream. You'd be surprised how easily something like an imaginary cop shouting "STOP!" can break the lucid...

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>>17951855

In worlds like our own there are many security factors to prevent the cumulative fallen souls to havoc it all. The security measures range from their own limited bodies and some mental blocks, so their souls could not use all "their" powers they have in the previous, more advanced worlds.

When in this new low level planets this fallen souls must fulfill their "obligation" in being good persons, in making good deeds, and so on. But they are not alone in this new "schools". All inhabitable worlds in the Existence have present a higher number of higher level souls, organized in many degrees, always ready to help all incarnated ones in their training, their missions, their learning.

WHAT IS A MIRACLE?

Miracle is everything out of ordinary that surpass the actual capacity of the incarnated souls in manipulate the Material Realm around them (not to mention the lack of ability of an incarnated one in try to manipulate the Spiritual Realm per se) . So the more primitive the Material Realm, less the incarnated souls can manipulate it above a certain limit imposed. And everything above this "line" can be considered a miracle.

A miracle can always occur, but only when the higher souls (that are tutoring the incarnated ones) permit. And the intention of a Miracle is to help people "open their eyes" to beyond the Material Realm. To help them realize there exist a "world" bigger than this limited "material space", and that are forces far beyond the power of a "mortal". The intention is to help the incarnated ones - in their very limited way of powers and awareness - to try to comprehend the grandiosity of the Creation, the grandiosity of Life per se, and to try to show them that the real life is not limited and material like that. The real life is in the Spiritual Realm with an endless evolution system that can be achieved with good deeds only.

POWER OVER THE MATTER

As all that say, a Miracle can be considered a "Power Over Matter" ;)

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>>17956117
>cont...

...state and cause you become a passenger to your subconscious once again. Because that's what non-lucid dreams, particularly nightmares come from: The subconscious. That imaginary cop was only there because deep down, even if you know it's a dream, it's part of your subconscious knowledge that crimes are illegal and met with police response, so if you imagine committing some kind of crime in a dream, it's common to simply include a cop as well, without you even being aware that you did it.

Nightmares are a byproduct of the subconscious and our own primal fears and worries. Throughout human history, right up until the last 500 years or so, survival was the primary object of everyone's mind, as life was frought with deadly dangers. In order for primitive humans to overcome this, their superior intellect adapted by trying to predict dangerous scenarios, in order to plan around them and try to circumvent or at least prepare for the worst (which was common at the time).

Thousands of years of that resulted in humans being natural worriers, planners, and predictors. It's how we've survived despite lacking fur, size, claws, horns, etc. in a world of tigers, wolves, and venomous insects. So when our brains shut out the outside world and our imaginations start to go off on its own, it's not surprising that the subconscious will occasionally drive your thoughts toward the things you don't like, to try and help you prepare for them. Unfortunately in a dream, you can't escape from those very real-seeming imagined things, and we are forced to face our fears in a very literal way.

When it comes to initiating a lucid dream purposely, this is where there aren't any simple solutions.
The only way I've figured out how to do it, is to immerse your conscious mind in thoughts of dreams, thoughts of your own dreams, and thoughts about your own thoughts, as well as frequently remembering to stop and...

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>>17956238
>cont...

...think to yourself, no matter how obvious it may seem, "Am I dreaming? Is this a dream?", then checking, however you can best think of checking if your surroundings are a dream or reality, to make sure of whether you are dreaming or not.

When you do these things often enough, they start to become habitual, and you'll find yourself thinking about it in dreams too, which, as you are now aware, is more likely to result in you realizing that you are in a dream, which results in more lucid dreams. More lucid dreams means more practice and getting better at lucid dreaming, which in turn can result in you basically having your own lifelike virtual reality simulator inside your own head that you can access once in a while. (This is why I believe tapping into the R.E.M sleep parts of the brain might be the best way to achieve full-senses VR)

And to finally answer the OP's question: Yes, it is POSSIBLE, but it would be extremely difficult. You would need to keep a constant train of thought on this fictional world in your waking life in order to keep imagining it in dreams, constantly reminding yourself of the characters, feelings you felt there, areas, etc. You would also never be able to lucid dream every single night because lucid dreaming does not provide the body with the adequate rest it requires from deep R.E.M sleep cycles. You would gradually become more sleep deprived, and find yourself requiring frequent naps just to get sufficient real, non-lucid sleep.

thank you for the reply anon, really appreciate it!
hope to see more posts from you :)

>>17956691
If you're referring to me [>>17956106],

Thank you. I'll be back here tonight in about 5 hours to answer any questions and discuss things. I'll make a thread if this one's gone.

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>>17949139
>>17949296

DEMONIC POSSESSION

So, for a low level bad soul to successfully preys on its incarnated victim, the soul incarnated must be at low level in its soul's defenses and have some mental affinity (conscious or unconscious) with the bad souls lurking around. And what really counts it is the spiritual baggage of the soul. What describes a soul is its actual life, as all other past lives, in thoughts and in actions. That what defines a soul, and it level.

An incarnated soul can be attacked constantly without noticed by the perpetrators, and bit a bit they will corrupt the target soul until it is defenseless. And once the prey is defenseless, the bad souls rules. The intensity of the control can be total, with the bad soul controlling the target incarnated soul, directly: soul by soul. It is almost as if the bad soul covers the target soul controlling every aspect of the prey: its movements, its vocals, its behaviors, and so on.

BAD SOULS LIKE TO PLAY WITH YOUR BELIEFS AND DISBELIEF

Our society are so much compromised (mentally speaking) that actually there are a bunch of souls incarnated all ready to be manipulated at some point. And bad souls love to incite violence, prejudice and disbelief in the hearts of the incarnated ones. The more corrupt a soul is, the more they can manipulate it.

The bad souls have another advantage at their "hands": they know that, the majority of the souls incarnated here on this planet cannot perceive the existence of the Spiritual Realm, the real place for life. They also know that souls with less knowledge, are more easily to input fear on their cores, and with fear the soul defenses drop drastically.

So they love to know that you don't know nothing about the Spiritual Realm (or couldn't remember), and they had time (centuries, millenniums) to create all kinds of disbelief to input fear on you, so they can easily play the roles of GHOSTS, POLTERGEISTS, DEMONS, MONSTERS and so on.

By the way, ppl, ive had abductee experience, can i retrieve lost memory on it?

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>>17949139
>>17949296

Every fantasy, surreal that can cause fear and panic in the incarnated soul mind they will used at its fullest in order to control you. And they will use their new "hosts" to help you believe its been possessed by a demon or something.

So, what you are seeing in a "demonic possession" is not a demons controlling a material bodies of its victims. No! The modus operandi is: a bad soul controlling an incarnated soul, that is controlling its own material body (by the commandments of the bad soul).

That is it! There is no control of a body that doesn't belong to the non-incarnated bad soul. Bad souls cannot control inanimate objects, either, in the form of a possession. Otherwise you would be able to see a lot of store mannequins (or similar objects) moving around in every corner of this planet. Or you would be able to see all kinds of inanimate objects moving around "being possessed" by bad souls. But it doesn't happen.

They doesn't have that power to incorporate in inanimate objects. Even worse, trying to controlling (directly) a living material body of an incarnated soul, that still "alive".

WE DON'T USE ALL CAPACITY OF OUR MATERIAL BODIES

And, as an addendum, the human body is almost underused (physically speaking) by us. This is also another limitation imposed on us when we go incarnate on this planet. But the bad souls know how to control the soul they are preying to move its body at fullest. That is why we see strange things like super strength, abnormal and fast movements from the bodies of the "possessed ones."

>>17956917

Ask about that to your Spiritual Guides. Ask them for help in remember this abduction cases. If they see that there is no problem for you to know the details about this experiences (i. e.: if it will not harm you, your mind, and it will not disturb your mission, or learning, incarnated on this planet, they will help you).

But, as I always say, ask for help to your Spiritual Guides with pure intentions only (and the real reasons to do so), from the bottom of your heart. That way you will be able to contact them and not some bad souls around that will love to trick you, impersonating your Spiritual Guides and help you to fall in your evolution soul path.

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>>17949139
>>17949296

THERE IS NO EXORCISM

There is no such a thing as Exorcism, as we (think we) know it:

FIRST: There is no demons or similar creatures in Existence. What really exist are souls, good and bad ones, strong and weak ones, high evolved and lower evolved ones.

SECOND: There is no taking over of the victim's material body, instead it is the bad soul that are controlling, DIRECTLY, the victim's soul, that consequently is naturally controlling its own body.

THIRD: The real taking over is to the victim's soul, in a continuous process of CORRUPTION and SUBJUGATION, implemented by the non-incarnated bad souls on the incarnated souls' victims, to lower the souls' defense levels to the point of them (the bad souls) to interact directly over the soul's victim.

FOURTH: All this process cannot be called a DEMONIC POSSESSION. Instead it can be called (a high degree of) an OBSESSION PROCESS.

SO... WHAT TO DO? EXORCISM TIME? :)

NO!

Well, the soul's victim was taking over by one or more bad souls, DIRECTLY (normally, if there is more then one bad souls, one of them is the leader and take over the victim's soul directly and the others are present together). So, what to do?

Q: Make a Standard Christian Exorcism?

A: No!

Q: Make an Exorcism from other religion?

A: No!

Q: Attack the bad souls with all your spiritual power?

A: NO!

PROBLEM 1: Traditional Exorcisms focuses exclusively on "demons". They don't consider that the attacker is another soul like the victim. THIS IS WRONG!

PROBLEM 2: Traditional Exorcisms uses some kind of script and think it have power to cast out demons. THIS IS WRONG!

And the bad souls Laughing Out Loud of all this idiocy, because words don't have power on their own. What have power is the soul and it doesn't need specific words to work out its own energy.

PROBLEM 3: Traditional Exorcism thinks the problem is only the "demons" and forget that the problem is within the "victim" too. THIS IS WRONG!

i was attempting to lucid dream a few nights ago and right before i went into it, i heard a very loud horn, like one that people blow all the time at sporting events. does this mean anything? i woke up after that because i thought it could have been something in my neighborhood, but it wasnt.

I've already made some questions previously, but I got some more. This thread sure is interesting :)

Does really exist a soulmate for each one of us? Or something similar to this concept? (Maybe something like a group of souls with a high level of compatibility, I dunno)

Last thing I would like to know. Is the personality of a person directly tied with its soul? I mean, if I died, will I maintain my current personality in my other life?

>>17957098

I will try to answer your new questions tomorrow. Now I need to sleep. And I still need to finish to answer the question about DEMONIC POSSESSION and (consequently) EXORCISM.

About your earlier questions, what was about? They were answered?

Well good Night everyone and I will be back a.s.a.p. to answer other questions if this thread is still open later.

>>17957090

If you were sleeping and hear a sound, it most probably came from the Spiritual Realm (if you could not confirm it came from the Material Realm when you immediately awake after the sound).

When you "sleep", you continue to live in the Spiritual Realm as a soul (only your body needs to recover). And when you go to the Spiritual Realm, in the sleeping time of your body, you could be anywhere you want (or anywhere you were permitted to stay) in the Spiritual Realm.

Now I will really go to sleep :) See you all later :D

>>17957114
It was actually only one question (my bad) about the spirit guides and how they interact with us. I take the opportunity to thank you for the answer!

>>17957114
What do you know about the Shadow man? I saw him once in a Lucid Dream and it was terrifying,

>>17941244
wut even is this trash

I just woke up from a spooky lucid dream
it started out semi-lucid, where I was just watching and not really controlling anything, I saw an acquaintance of mine doing something weird with a group of people, they were squatting, as if they had to stay in one place for a long time and got tired, but that's not the spooky part.
I walked into a sort of sitting room in the house I was in and on the couch was my freshly dead grandmother. I approached her and asked "Grandma! How are you feeling!" I noticed she looked basically the same as before she died, a little less swollen maybe. She told me that she still had the same problems as before, and held up her hand and said she had a big hole in it. I perceived this hole to be an energetic one and not a 'physical' one, it was like her entire palm was the 'hole'. She told me to come close to her, and I could hear a faint angelic choir, which got louder as she pressed our ears together. We then spun around and we had switched bodies!!! I was slightly annoyed and I said "Oh no you don't!" and grabbed her, pressing our ears back together and switching back to my form. I then proceed to.... beat the shit out of my grandma while screaming in a foreign language?... I even broke her leg.... she didn't seem too disturbed, neither did the other people in the room? This just happened and I and very unsettled and can't go back to sleep. This isn't the first time something weird has happened in a lucid dream involving a member of my family.

>>17941244

That Would Imply that cartoon characters are real, and Dubai is not.

Well, sorry for the delay. I will start to answer the questions here (and try to finish the pending ones)

>>17957215

> What do you know about the Shadow man? I saw him once in a Lucid Dream and it was terrifying,

There are TWO POSSIBILITIES:

FIRST: Some other soul was trying to communicate with you but your senses (i. e.: your awareness as a soul in the sleeping time of your material body) were to much limited, and you could not ever see properly.

SECOND: It was a bad soul trying to input fear on your soul to low your soul defenses. Remember what I already answered in other questions: some bad souls will ever take the opportunity to try to lower your defenses based in your disbelief and misconceptions about the real truth. And the REAL TRUTH IS: the existence of the Spiritual Realm as the real place for the eternal life, for everyone as an immortal soul. So, as much as you BELIEVE IN LIES like the existence of demons, monsters, ghosts, and so on, the more the bad souls will use it against you to attack your soul in order to help you fall in your soul evolution process.

If something like this happens again, you can:

A: Try to not be afraid and think that monsters (or similar) doesn't exists and;

B: Ask who is there and what he/she/it want.

C: If he/she/it not answer or, worst, try to scare you more, ask for help to your Spiritual Guides (and remember: ask for help always with pure intentions in your heart).

D: If he/she/it identifies he/she/itself and you could not understand, comprehend or ever recognize it, SAY OUT LOUD that you cannot trust he/she/it and ask politely to the same entity to leave your presence.

E: If it not go away, immediately follow (C) and always maintain your mental condition in equilibrium as I said in (A).

F: If you are trying (C) and think it is not working, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG. SO, CONTINUE TO TRY HARD, AND HARD AND HARDER (with pure intents only). Some higher soul will appear to help you immediately when you do it right.

>>17957186

Oh, OK! :) So it was a question I could answer to you. I'm glad :) I will try to answer your new question soon.

>>17957098

>Does really exist a soulmate for each one of us? Or something similar to this concept? (Maybe something like a group of souls with a high level of compatibility, I dunno)

The answer to this question is: YES and NO.

So, in order to help you understand it I need to write some background knowledge first:

Each soul are created by the source as an UNIQUE, PURE and IGNORANT entity. There is no two souls identical, because:

1: They are created separately and;

2: each soul will always follow its own path in the souls' evolution system from the beginning.

And with all life experiences available in the incarnated form, a soul can advance step by step in its own evolution, reaching Realm after Realm (Vegetable > Animal > Hominid > Human > Angel and so on) in the infinite soul evolutionary path in the eternal life in the Spiritual Realm. But the Realms before the Human are just basic environments in order to help build and grow each soul's core.

Once this souls reach the Human Realm they will be considered as souls with their core built in such a complex way that can permit them to receive the gift of the Free Will. And when a soul have its own Free Will it means that it have a fully "conscious" system working too, and can live their lives by its own choices, training their souls to get rid of all their previous animal instincts. They also need to grow in a MORAL and in a KNOWLEDGE perspective:

MORAL: means (in a summarized way) being good to others and help others.

KNOWLEDGE: means learn how the "reality" works and try to use it to help make their lives a better one for everyone. Naturally, KNOWLEDGE leads to TECHNOLOGY.

And this is a DUO. Once you reach the Human Realm they must be learned together, always.

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>>17957098

HUMAN SOULS LEARNING TOGETHER IN MANY INCARNATIONS

During many incarnations in the Human Realm, many souls experiencing life in the matter together (as a parent, a lover, a friend, and so on) and some of them try to follow the same path together, taking the same steps, reaching step by step the same levels in their souls' evolutionary path. They also always ask the higher souls to incarnated together in the same time frame, to be closer in the Material Realm so they could always meet and live their lives together. And souls closest to each other not necessarily means only two souls. Also, there are a lot of souls that chooses to walk the eternal life together incarnated or not) as a group.

This kind of souls are considered the "soul mate" type.

But not necessary this situation will last for all eternity. Of course there are cases of actually higher souls walking together from the beginning of their human evolution, but it is not necessarily a norm. Because of each choice an independent soul can make in their incarnated lives (and also in their time living in the Spiritual Realm), they can choose at some point to follow different paths. Also, if one of them happens to make wrong choices middle of their eternal journey, this soul will stagnate in its evolutionary path. Normally, other closest souls ill try to help bring back this friend (lover, parent, and so own) to the right path. In some cases higher souls continue to try to help old friends that have fallen long ago (centuries, millenniums, and so on) in the lowest levels of the human soul evolution.

One last piece of knowledge I can register about this theme is: for a human soul that needs to be incarnated in the Material Realm to learn, once it dies it returns to the Spiritual Realm as a soul. And there are always a period of time between their incarnation attempts.

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>>17957098

And in this time they continue their immortal lives in the Spiritual Realm. As a soul advances in its evolution path, this period between incarnations becomes longer and longer, until a time there will be no need to incarnate again and a soul could continue its eternal and endless evolution in the Spiritual Realm only.

>Last thing I would like to know. Is the personality of a person directly tied with its soul? I mean, if I died, will I maintain my current personality in my other life?

As I answered earlier in your last question, each soul is created by the Source as an UNIQUE, PURE and IGNORANT entity. There is no two souls identical. Each one follow its own path and have its own life experiences as an individual, ALWAYS BUILDING ITS OWN PERSONALITY.

Therefore, there will be no two equal souls, much less two souls with equal personalities, doesn't matter how long they live their lives together in their evolutionary path as human souls. And a soul's personality is built in its own soul. So when an incarnated soul dies, it comes back to the Spiritual realm as a soul with all its knowledge and personality baggage.

Or course, human souls that still in its initial state of evolution, in order to learn, on each incarnation it needs to forget what they cumulative know from the first time it becomes a human soul to its current evolution position. But as long it advances in its evolutionary path more and more past memories can be accessed from its past lives during the incarnation period.

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>>17957098

FUN FACT: Once a soul transit from the Animal Realm to the Human Realm all its memories of being whatever animal a soul were in the past is COMPLETELY ERASED FROM THE SOUL. The reason is, there is no reason a human soul needs to remember what kind of animals it were in its countless animal past lives (for millions, billions of years or more). And another reason is that a human soul is a complete and unique soul reconstruction. Its a big level change, from animal to human.

Comparing both its impossible because they are incompatible, in organization and in complexity levels. A human soul is completely different and it is absurdly complex in comparison to an animal soul. Even in animal souls evolved enough to almost the point of change their status to be a soul of the Human Realm, because an animal soul to become a human soul it is necessary a complete reconstruction and a new whole level of structural complexity and "new functionalities", like Free Will and Consciousness.

That is it :)

I really need to sleep right now.

I will try to finish answer the question about DEMONIC POSSESSION and EXORCISM tomorrow. I think I will be able to finish that answer in one or two more posts (I hope).

I think I already have answered all questions from the anons on this thread too. But if anyone have any more questions (and/or if I just forgot to answer someone), please just ask. I will try to answer too.

Now is my time to ask something to all anons present here on X: what is the post limit on a thread in this board? With this answer of mine we will be in the number 249 (of posts) and I know some boards have a limit of 250 posts (or so).

I have issues where I'll randomly jerk awake when I'm about to slip into dreaming, but only when laying on my back.

I love dreams where I am powerful, an do magic, fly, change realms, etc. The kind that make me wake up and feel good about myself.

>>17959964
good stuff as usual anon!
now, could you tell us more about advanced ancient civilizations like Atlantis, if possible?

>in a dream
>aerial view of an oil refinery
>a group of men is led next to a tank insulted in Arabic and then beheaded
>have feeling they are Kurds
>teleport into bodyp>I'm wearing a full niqab
>walking down a mountain valley passing armed balaclava wearing guards
>"wtf is happening"
>enter a small shack/shrine thing
>inside are 4 other niqab laden people
>suddenly everyone drops the niqabs
>josh Brolin and four other badass operator looking guys are here with me in a tiny room with an altar
>"okay this isn't real"
>josh Brolin starts briefing us
>we will be storming an oil refinery held by ISIS and capturing a high value target (Muslim name I forget)
>another woman enters the shrine
>disrobes too soon
>hot super badass operator woman
>guards outside are suspicious
>josh Brolin looks out window through binocs
>large armored convoy traveling down the valley about a mile away
>suddenly a jeep is in the room
>get in that shit, mount the 50
>firing tracers across the valley, watching the convoy fall into a ravine
>convoy returns fire but is off
>speed towards the refinery
>blow off the heads of a few enemy gunners and drivers pursuing us
>having more fun than literally every before in any dream or event ever
>pulling up to oil refinery
>start taking heavy fire
>lose a jeep
>push on, kill at least 20 ISIS with the 50
>jeep smashes into wall
>dismount and climb up oil refinery structure
>see the HVT
>disarm him and knife fight ensues
>disable and restrain him, place bag over his head and viciously beat him
>laughing maniacally
>josh Brolin stops me
>we gas it out of there

most fun I've ever had in a dream.

>>17940450
I'm inclined to say yes because every single lucid dream I have starts in a fictitious town that is slowly getting bigger.
I don't practice or anything though so I'm no expert.

I wake already and will restart with the answers (after the coffee) ;)

>>17951854
"her"

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>>17962548
hey! i've been enjoying this thread from a distance. and i think the post limit is 300, not sure. also good morning.

this is more of a speculative question, but as far as learning a skill during a dream, do you think you could 'program' yourself to excel at something in the waking world by utilizing lucid dream time?

for example, i have these dreams where i'm playing the guitar and it sounds nice / feels natural. the dreams are spontaneous, not lucid. sometimes i play ambient stuff on my real life guitar but not remotely at the level of a good guitarist or my dream persona.

i can only allocate so much time to guitar practice in my waking life, but what do you think the result would be of spending lucid dream time playing and practicing? and i'm sure this could apply to other anon's interests as well - painting, studying, wizard stuff etc but for the sake of ease i just used guitar as an example.

tldr - have you observed any effects of lucid dreaming insofar as enhancing waking life abilities?

>>17962596

>this is more of a speculative question, but as far as learning a skill during a dream, do you think you could 'program' yourself to excel at something in the waking world by utilizing lucid dream time?

Everything you do in a dream (and it not depend on your awareness degree) you are learning something: for your incarnated life, for your eternal life in the Spiritual Realm as an immortal and free soul, and so on. But what you can take with you (in knowledge) immediately after a dream to your awake incarnated state is very little, because many things you do in higher consciousness in your dreams you cannot remember in your awake incarnated state, and this is a natural barrier for you, so you could not remember because this information, this situation, this knowledge could hinder your progress in your incarnated state.

But if we could be aware like we are aware in the awake times during our incarnated life, in equally terms during our time in the Spiritual Realm when our body are recovering in its sleeping time, and if we could use this time for practice, it will be good for us. Very good indeed. This will be considered a higher level of IMAGE TRAINING feature. And image training is always a useful tool to be used to learn anything you want. And together with the equivalent material training (i. e.: the "hands on" process) in our incarnated times, it combines your mental strength and goals to do a better job, every time.

Even, there is a saying: "For a task to run correctly you need 90% INSPIRATION and 10% PERSPIRATION."

But image training is not magic! Everything you must perfect you need to do it hard, in a exhaustive way of training. So, use your free time to "think" and "rethink" a problem, a way of action is good for when you will really need to work on it in the Material Realm.

So, if you could add this "normal level" of image training to an "advanced level" like when you do it awake in the Spiritual Realm during sleeping, it will be the best.

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>>17962596

> have you observed any effects of lucid dreaming insofar as enhancing waking life abilities?

Training and repetition is always a good way to do better each time you try to do something. And if you could "training" in the Spiritual Realm too and take with you all knowledge learning there to your incarnated life, it will be better for yo. But there are only one way to do so (based on your own power) is to use your time in "Lucid Dream" (i. e.: the time your soul is more freer from your body and you could interact with the Spiritual realm in an awake state similar to your incarnated awake state), to training what you want to excel in your material life incarnated here on Earth.

> i can only allocate so much time to guitar practice in my waking life, but what do you think the result would be of spending lucid dream time playing and practicing? and i'm sure this could apply to other anon's interests as well - painting, studying, wizard stuff etc but for the sake of ease i just used guitar as an example.

No one of us, incarnated here on Earth has the "right time" to do what we want because all of this "mind limitations" that are imposed to our souls. And our material "environment" is a constant supply of "distractions" for us to forget to think about what really matters: evolve our soul in the Material Realm, incarnated, so we could have a better life in the future in the Spiritual Realm.

And the only way to evolve our souls is to help others, to be good to others, not only in a material way of actions, but with good thoughts too. Remember:

OUTSIDE CHARITY THERE IS NO SALVATION

This is of the utmost importance for us in our evolution state, if we want to continue grow our soul power endlessly. You need to try to do things here incarnated on Earth that could serve others (i. e.: meaning to help others in need). Bringing a better life to others, means bring a happy life to you too.

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>>17962596

But I am not here to incite you to preaching. NO! Because THIS IS WRONG!

We need to live our lives with actions, not only words. Words will not save mankind. Its their actions that will be evaluate to see if a soul will EVOLVE, will STAGNATE or will FALL.

And you don't need to be affiliated to a Religion or a some kind of Cult to help someone. And you don't need to live only to "pray God" or whatever a religion call the Source, the Omniscient Mind, the Supreme Being. THIS IS WRONG!

You are here here to help others in need, and words preaching and so on will not help them. If a person is famine, words and preaching will not fill its stomach. The only thing that will fill its stomach is a good and healthy food.

If a person is a victim of any kind of violence, you are not doing good to try to bring him/her to your Religion or cult "to try to save his/her because because of past sins." THIS IS WRONG! AND THIS IS FALSE!

Unfortunately, there are so many things humans do in the name of their "Religions" that is the OPPOSITE of its true meaning: to "Reconnect" us to the Real Life in the Spiritual Realm. And you can only do that if you are doing good to others, helping others in the Right Way.

Again, unfortunately, there are so many Religions and Cults out there manipulating people instead of truly helping them to find the right path, the TRUE PATH.

MATERIAL CREATIONS TO HELP MANKIND

And when you create SOMETHING GOOD in this material world like: a real good piece of art, a real good piece of music, a real good technological advancement, you really are helping Mankind have a better incarnated life, so they could spend their own time helping others too and continuing to learn to evolve their MORAL and KNOWLEDGE, to consequently bring more good things to others, so it will be considered a good thing. WORTHY TO LEVEL UP YOUR OWN SOUL.

AND THANK YOU TOO...

... by informing me the possible post limit of a thread on X (300 posts).

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If I happen to meet a "bad" soul or a lower spirit that may want to take advantage of me (are there even cases when they don't?), would it be wise to try to get closer to it, talk to it or get to know it if I am aware it cannot harm me (going by everything you are saying)?

does interacting with lower spiritual strata influence my ability to level up or is it still as a "learning experience"?

>>17959889
but doesn't the human soul build off the animal one? we still share many instincts with animals

>>17961315

> now, could you tell us more about advanced ancient civilizations like Atlantis, if possible?

A lot of people here incarnated in the Material Realm (and a lot of higher souls living in the Spiritual Realm, too) say that Atlantis really exists in the past. This place was one of many attempts of the human civilization in trying to bring a fast advancement to Mankind incarnated here on this planet. But, unfortunately, like many other attempts, the civilization corrupts itself, falls and vanished (by their own or by the price they must need to pay as a Collective Karma).

Some says in the Atlantis, there were many technological wonders that in comparison to our own technological advancement we are still in the pre "Medieval Era". But they "forgot" to advance in the MORAL side too (i. e.: they become very bad people, egoistical, distorting BASIC TRUE LIFE VALUES, inverted all moral conventions, and at the end their society becomes pure Evil and Chaotic).

So because of many bad thing they did, they paid together what we call Collective Karma. so natural disasters get rid of any trace of its civilization.

WHERE IS ITS REMAINS?

Well, if something of their culture that could be considered as highly technological advanced could survive a global (or local, focal) "natural" disaster, it will be in a few numbers and in a few spots only. And there are two possibilities remaining:

1: Nothing was found or;

2: Something was found by its kept hidden from the public (because of interest gains it could offer in the wrong hands to try to manipulate and dominate others).

To try to analyze it we can make a fell comparisons to our own Civilization. First in the MORAL advancements: we appear to follow the same path of the Atlantis. We are bad people as a whole, and we are creating a "good" society only to a fell to live "happily", and a really bad society to all others.

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>>17962829
>>17962863
>>17962916
thank you for taking the time to explain this so thoroughly. i read through this several times. . .i find the way you word things really interesting, and i get the feeling you walk the talk - and based on this i am inclined to trust your word

and this:
>And our material "environment" is a constant supply of "distractions" for us to forget to think about what really matters: evolve our soul in the Material Realm, incarnated, so we could have a better life in the future in the Spiritual Realm.

resonated with me, thank you for the reminder.

i do agree wholeheartedly agree that it is good to be charitable to other humans - but also remember not neglect your own self care! this means you!

i would like to create something beautiful to level up my own soul, as you put it. that excites me, and i guess to keep something (knowledge, art, inventions) inside is hurtful to all involved in lieu of the thought that we are all naturally creators and it does no good to suppress instinct. so i guess the happiness of all humans are connected/universal. anndd i just answered my own question or something :D as for the post limit, getting close and so guess we fill find out haha.

thank you again.

>>17959334
I think it was trying to communicate with me, but all I could see was a shadow and red eyes.

It was calling me by my name. I tried to answer, but my voice wouldn't come out. And in the dream I was in my apartment, everything exactly how it is. That's why it was so terrifying.

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>>17961315

And I think that, even after the RESET implemented in the Atlantis time, the few who survive and all other bad souls that incarnated here from the past to today in order to learn to be a better person and try to rebuild our Mankind the right way: all of them FAIL MISERABLY.

So, the final answer will be, our civilization never changes in the Moral aspects, and continues to do bad things to others and to themselves.

In the KNOWLEDGE status (i. e.: the technological advancements) we are far from it, from where the Atlantis could reach. But I think all technological advancements are still following somehow the same update progress (not the same inventions at all) because the same souls that fail miserably in the past continue to incarnate here on Earth to try to amend to their past errors. But instead many of them are only accumulating more and more errors to their souls. And the technologies are been recreated worst then ever each new attempt after the RESET (and the Atlantis was not the first RESET mankind suffers, and it appears will not be the last).

So if you could compare or technological advancements from this past two centuries, you will notice something peculiar. At each new achievement, at each new progress singularity, some old techs die and some new techs are born. And some techs that not die, they evolve. And this piece of technology follow to behaviors:

1: They become more "powerful" (in capacity, functionality and so on)

2: they become small and;

3: they become more and more "fragile".

So, get rid of our major technological advancements in a RESET-like process will be "a piece of cake" to the planet. If some kind of RESET occurs today in out society the majority of our advancements will disappear without a trace in a global catastrophe, spare only the strongest creations of the past, like the pyramids, the Greek constructions and so on.

Want to try lucid dreaming, but too scared of a bad dream or experiencing sleep paralysis.

Any advice?

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>>17961315

To the survivors rebuilding the Mankind civilization in the far future, their archaeological experts will think that our Old Civilization could only reached the technological advancements of the Greeks, or the Romans, and they will never find (easily) any of our computers (desktop, server, portable, tablets, smartphones, smartwatches, and so on), vehicles (cars, planes, boats), our printed books (neither the digital ones...), the electrical system (the grid, the transformers, the towers) or ever the finest ones like the photo voltaic cells, the wind turbines and so on.

And depends on the catastrophe level, they will never find the remnants of our own buildings of steel and glass, neither our masonry constructions... but they probably will find (more easily) the remnants of buildings made of marble and stone from the past (much more catastrophe-resistance than our achievements in the actual civil construction)... and whatever you could think of a real advancement of our civilization.

So, to end this explanation I think that is much more easier to make disappear a more technological advancement Society like ours (and the Atlantis one) than to erase an old society in time like the Greeks or the Romans.

A greedy society never think ahead of time, never worries about the future, doesn't bother to think outside the Material Realm and (worst) think they are "Gods" and that nothing will happen to destroy their Status Quo... until they desperately Cry Out Loud for all forgotten Gods, Saints, Angels (all higher souls, that help our civilization in the past) they never want to believe exists, desperately trying to save themselves instead of others, and forget about the people suffering at the same moment with the same intensity around them.

Even in the end of their (bad) Civilization they continue to be Egoistical beings, so they disappear without a trace. But don't worry, they will have a chance someday, to return to the right path.

>>17963061
> Want to try lucid dreaming, but too scared of a bad dream or experiencing sleep paralysis.
> Any advice?

There are a lot of information about what you want to know in this thread. As a summary (but you still need to read all this that was published in here): the more you know about Spirituality, the more you know that when you are "dreaming" means you are awake in the spirit form (i. e.: your soul are living in the Spiritual Realm) and all other life are souls as well just like you, you will be able to not be afraid and will know how to ask for help when needed.

>>17963007

Don't be afraid and try out (as many times as you need until achieve the desired peace in mind) all tips I wrote in:

>>17959334

>>17962977

> thank you for taking the time to explain this so thoroughly. i read through this several times. . .i find the way you word things really interesting, and i get the feeling you walk the talk - and based on this i am inclined to trust your word

Thank you too, because I'm glad I could help :)

> i do agree wholeheartedly agree that it is good to be charitable to other humans - but also remember not neglect your own self care! this means you!

Yes! You can help others but cannot forget about yourself. Ever. Living a martyr life on purpose without the necessity to do so, will only contribute to hurt your own soul and prejudice you, so you could stagnate or worst, fall as a soul in the future and waist your precious time incarnated here on Earth.

AND, another reason is that you need to stay with BODY and MIND in good conditions if you truly want to help other to grow as souls.

> i would like to create something beautiful to level up my own soul, as you put it. that excites me, and i guess to keep something (knowledge, art, inventions) inside is hurtful to all involved in lieu of the thought that we are all naturally creators and it does no good to suppress instinct.

EXACTLY! Put it out of your mind, of your soul, and try to build something good, to you and to others with your own ideas :)

> as for the post limit, getting close and so guess we fill find out haha.

I think we don't need to worry (too much) about the post limit, because I recently saw a thread here on X that is above 300 posts. So the limit must be 350, 400 or 500 for posts without images. Better for us, we will be able to continue to expand this knowledge in one thread without need to open another one.

>>17962958

> but doesn't the human soul build off the animal one? we still share many instincts with animals

Yes! In order to survive as an animal a soul need to build up their instincts. But when a soul is upgrade from an animal to a hominid (you can call it the intermediary between human and animal in a rough way, but a hominid is a human soul and not an animal one), they still need some instincts to survive, so they could build their souls from the beginning, from the scratch, as humans (communication, survival, protection, group protection, natural knowledge and so on).

And that instincts must be gradually discharged as the soul grows as a human being, as they acquire MORAL and KNOWLEDGE that will continuously help them to grow as a civilization (and as souls).

And the problem is just that, some "old" souls (but not evolved enough), even living incarnated in Civilizations like ours, insist on using (in the wrong way) their instincts that was not discharged to prejudice others, to their own egoistical reasons. Their old animal instincts were transformed in some "evil behavior". They are not anymore natural animal instincts, but something "human made" in a wrong way that only bad souls use.

Think about it: if they are in a place they don't need to hunt to survive, they don't to need to use force to survive, they don't need to copulate to survive, they don't need to kill to survive, WHY they need this instincts, if not to deviate their own souls from the right path to satisfy their own egoistical needs only?

>>17962939

> If I happen to meet a "bad" soul or a lower spirit that may want to take advantage of me (are there even cases when they don't?), would it be wise to try to get closer to it, talk to it or get to know it if I am aware it cannot harm me (going by everything you are saying)?

> does interacting with lower spiritual strata influence my ability to level up or is it still as a "learning experience"?

The only good reason to you to stay close to a "bad" soul is IF:

1: You have enough spiritual power to help you (to protect yourself) AND to help the soul in need (as all bad souls are considered souls that need help to go back to the right path) AND;

2: You really want to help them to go back to the right path (with pure intentions only).

On the contrary (if not the 2 statements above satisfy the answer together), maintain your distance from them, and if you perceive any bad soul is approaching you, just ask for help to your Spiritual Guides.

And you will only be able to ask for help to your Spiritual Guides if you ask it with pure intentions only, from the bottom of your heart.

NEVER WORK ALONE

And if in the 2 statements above you can answer YES, even so never "work alone". If you want to help other souls, at last, talk to your Spiritual Guide and always, ALWAYS ask for their presence and help you at that moment. Never do it alone, unless you are considered a HIGHER SOUL.

And if you really are a higher soul you NATURALLY don't work alone and have many, MANY souls BELOW, EQUAL and ABOVE your soul level, present with you all the time WORKING TOGETHER AS A TEAM ;)

Did it happen in your dream that you tell to people in there "this is a dream, you are fake" and they suddenly stop what they are doing and they all watch you with surprised/shocked expresion??

>>17957788

If it really occurs, it was a (very) weird dream. But doesn't matter the weirdness level of a dream. If it was real, means that it occurs in the Spiritual Realm. Here, in the Material Realm, we live in a place with very limited possibilities (including the Laws of Physics), so anything that happens outside of our "limited standard of behaviors", its considered for us as a "weird" situation.

Maybe it really was your deceased Grandmother, or someone impersonating her, and she was trying to help you (and/or tell you about something). And don't worry by her absence of action after you try to

> beat the shit out of her

because in the Spiritual Realm there is no "Physical Force" like in the Material Realm, so you could see only what she (or they, if many other souls were participating in this scenario behind the "curtains") want you to see, about what really happened (or you think what was happened) there, in that dream.

My suggestion: try to ask about what occurs in that dream (and in any other weird dream involving members of your family) to your Spiritual Guides. If you really want to know about it and could ask with pure intentions only, from the bottom of your heart, they will hear you and will try to help you understand it.

Even ask about the foreign language scenario too. Maybe in one of your last incarnations you lived your material life in other country (and probably was an important life to you so you could remember its languages in dream). Again, the best source to try to comprehend all this is located at the "hands" of your Spiritual Guides.

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>>17949139
>>17949296

By the way, the last course of action cited at the end of the earlier post is the WORST WAY EVER to try to solve this kind of problem.

WHY, you ask?

Let's present some case scenarios about the (possible) consequences of this kind of (reckless) action of your part. So, what would happen (in a wrong way, of course) if you try to repel all the bad souls with your own spiritual power?

SCENARIO 1: Lets say you have the spiritual power to do that. If you try to counter-attack the bad soul and if you really have the spiritual power to do that, it will be a waste of time. You will only maintain it (or them, the bad souls directly involved in this OBSESSION PROCESS) away from its victim only for the time you are close (or while you still have "juice" to use on your spiritual power).

FORK 1.1: Lets say now you go away after repel them. What will happen? They will return to attack the victim, more irritated, more angrier than ever, and will torture the victim's soul more than ever because of your reckless counter-attack. Congratulations! You did not only NOT SOLVE the problem, instead you make it worst for the victim :(

FORK 1.2: Lets say you "run-out-of-juice" in the middle of your attack against the bad soul. Rest assured that it will return soon, more irritated and more angrier than ever, just to attack (again) the original victim, and (possibly) YOU TOO. Worst case for you if there are more than one bad souls involved in this OBSESSION PROCESS against the soul's victim. When you run out of your spiritual power there will be a bunch of them attacking merciless everyone's present, and primarily the "hero one" who tried to save the soul's victim recklessly and now is out of energy, and probably afraid enough to have its own soul's defenses low enough to at less gain a headache or two (if he/she is lucky enough).

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>>17940450
When ever you dream write the shit down, eventually you will realize you have "zones" that reoccur. Recalling certain dreams will also help you remember others. Some zones are connected too. Like for example I have a "Mall" zone connected to a city zone through an escalator and stairwell.

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>>17949139
>>17949296

Worst scenario ever if you attract all this bad souls to haunt you too if they think (or find out) that you will be a "good prey" to them. And they could to, at last, try to turn your life a living hell everyday (remember, souls doesn't need to sleep and could be at your side haunting you 24/7 if you are weak enough for them to haunting you).

SCENARIO 2: Lets say you don't have the power to ever scratch the bad soul (or bad souls if more than one soul attacker is present at the moment tormenting the soul's victim). The bad soul will Laugh Out Loud at you, and (mentally speaking) it will be feeling more stronger than ever, more motivated than ever, and will use (and abuse more) the victim's soul and (indirectly) its material body, to show to you what it really can do, torturing more and more the victim's soul and its body (and could ever damage it pretty bad in some cases). Also, the bad soul will try to show to you "who is the Boss" and try to scare you. And if you become afraid, you could become the target, on that moment or in the future, as a new target to the bad soul's horde.

FORK 2.1: If there are more than one bad soul participating in this OBSESSION PROCESS against the victim, the others could immediately try to attack you too. And, again, you will be "out-of-juice" and possible a real "sitting duck" to them. And depend on the numbers of the bad souls you could be immersed in a real deep problem... and you don't even have a proton bag with you :D

OK! I WILL NOT ATTACK RECKLESSLY, SO... WHAT TO DO?

First you need to understand what really is causing all this OBSESSION PROCESS, what really is going on in this "strange relationship" between the soul's victim and the soul's attacker. As I said earlier in this answer the OBSESSION PROCESS is the culmination of a series of actions of CORRUPTION and SUBJUGATION of the victim's soul promoted by the bad soul. But why it is attacking so deep the victim's soul?

Well, as an incarnated soul here on this planet Earth I (still) need to sleep (again) :D

And about this 'endless' topic, now I know exactly that I will not be able to finish about DEMONIC POSSESSION and EXORCISM with only one or two more posts :D But i know it will be necessary a lot posts to finish it because I really need to detail many knowledge points around the main question in discussion. But don't worry (too much): if the thread is still open I will try to answer it all to the end.

Also, I already know that It will take a little longer than I expected, but I hope you will be able to enjoy it at the end, when all pieces are glued together in this BIG answer.

Also, I'm still open to new questions. and I think I already answered the other pending questions too. But if any question is missing, please point it out and ask again. I will gladly answer your questions on the go.

But for now, good Night to all :)

>>17964866
thanks for everything so far anon, really insightful and helpful info!

>>17965324

Thank you too. I'm glad I can help :)

And I wake up already. Now I will start with the answers.

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>>17947903
Rarely you'll see a thread here without the roleplayers. There isn't much about lucid dreaming though you just stay awake through sleep paralysis and then you are lucid in a dream environment.
And then afaik almost everyone defaults to fucking or killing half the people they know or flying.

I have had many lucid dreams and in one, when I realized it was a dream, I looked up and I was in a busy city street. I looked in my hand and I had an axe. I don't know why but I just started swinging and nobody cared. They just walked around the gore. I killed over 100 'people' in that dream and it felt amazing the entire time.
That level of hyper-violence has never happened in any dream again.
I don't experience any of this 'remorse' or whatever you keep talking about.
Any thoughts?

>>17967582
You're an edgy 13 year old

>>17967631
But I felt bad when I woke up.

>>17967635
LOL

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>>17949139
>>17949296

PAST PROBLEMS, PAST SENTENCE, PAST FUTURE

In LIFE there is no such a thing as COINCIDENCE. All this situation is at this level of cruelty for a reason.

In most cases this is an old feud between two or more souls over time, by entire generations, by many incarnations where souls inflicting pain to other souls, always switching their roles as each incarnation life time passes. In some incarnation one soul is the perpetrator and the other soul is the victim. Grunges are always kept, to them to the core of their souls, and in the next incarnation the role reversed: the one perpetrator now is the victim, and the victim is now the perpetrator, and this downhill Spiral of Pure Chaos can keep going and going for centuries or even millenniums if nothing is done to stop this madness.

Normally an attack like this, with this level of subjugation, is a difficult-to-solve problem that comes from past incarnations. Probably the victim soul in the last (or some past) incarnation was the perpetrator and the actual soul attacking was a victim at that time in the past. In this new incarnation, only the last perpetrator from the past is incarnating here, probably because it was a chance offered by higher souls so this one sinned could try to redeem itself, paying by its past crimes in a way or another. But the hate burning in the victims soul can be so intense it refuses to reincarnate in the same environment with the last perpetrator to just participate on its life and try help amend the situation for both of them.

So, the hate inside this soul is so intense, corrupting itself so deeply, that it falls completely from the soul evolution path. In its eyes it only wants to revenge itself AT ALL COSTS, and probably choose to stay in the Spiritual Realm (i. e.: in the lowest levels of the Spiritual Realm, much closer to the Earth surface) to try to achieve its revenge attempts (and, again, at all costs).

>>17967582

First, I think you need to understand that all the time you spend as a soul in the Spiritual Realm during the sleeping time of your body can be a time of learning for you, yourself. And learning can mean living in various kinds and levels of simulations, with many situations involved so you could train your soul to be good, to know how to truly act, and to try to get rid of old vices.

And I don't think is a good idea for you to release your old instincts so freely like that in this situation. You are actually living in an era that there is no need anymore to "swing an Axe just to kill other people". The actual time is, for you and all other souls incarnated here on Earth, to try to turn this World in a better place for everyone... and not going to war in a barbaric way of life.

And you need to know that our real selves are our souls. Our material body is nothing more than a clothe that one day will rot. But the soul is ETERNAL, is IMMORTAL, is INDESTRUCTIBLE.

Rest assured that a soul cannot be erased from existence, but can accumulate a lot of damage from time to time, from others attacking you or, in the majority of the cases, from yourself. How? Every time you do something bad to others (an action and/or a thought) you are hitting not only the target soul of your cholera, but your own soul too. And little by little this will "deform" your own soul, turning it "ugly" and "broken", and unable to reach higher dimensional levels anymore, trapping your soul in the lowest dimension levels of the Existence, limiting yourself into your path to level up your soul.

Go downhill is always easy, climbing up is much more difficult.

And the only way to level up your own soul is to do good things to others - by actions and by thoughts - during your time here on Earth in incarnated form. Or even in the Spiritual Realm when your body needs to recover during sleeping time and your soul is more freer from it to act in the Real Reality (the Spiritual Realm).

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>>17967699
Please don't listen to this disinformation agent, he's part of the Titan's disinformation party. Oh wait, did I say He? I meant it. This post was made by an illuminati spam bot.

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>>17967865
You're claiming half truths to fit your proportionately half baked excuses.
The soul can easily be purified, allowing for more fluid movement in the higher spheres. You just have to make beneficent decisions.

>>17967892

If you think it is easy to pay for your sins you are doing it wrong.

No soul can be "easily purified" by their crimes. Every crime you commit a crime you will need to pay equally for the damage you caused: to others and to yourself too. And the longer your crime goes unpunished, the worse the price for you to pay in the future, incarnated or in the Spiritual Realm.

If it was really so easy to purify ourselves after each crime committed, the World now will be a Living Hell and all life would have no value anymore...

Your way of thinking is very similar to the Medieval times of the Catholic Church where people could buy forgiveness with money alone.

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>>17967943
Pfft
Fuck that
It's ez if I say it's ez, I'm the fucking creator of the universe dawg
Your limitations are your own to surpass because I don't have any boundaries oppressing me

Time to sleep again. I will continue tomorrow with the answers :)

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I can't tell what's worst, the faggot writing this huge roleplay-fic down, or the retards that are buying it.

Lucid Dreaming isn't some spiritual bullshit, it's fucking science.

For the laughs, I'll remember to commit as many crimes in my lucid dreams as possible, starting with genocide.

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Shits fucked yo, i don't want to sleep anymore for i may see my damn future again. Why the fuck do people want this, this shit is a fucking curse for me. A curse i just woke up with one day, and one day i was just dreaming, having a good time then i realize half way into my dream that the dream is getting too surreal. (Mind you o have had past "Deja'vu" experiences before, but they are all after dreams so was pretty familiar with this and being the fag a was i didn't think much of it then so i just forget it like any other dream then later when that moment from my dream happens i freak out a bit. But anyway...)
>decide, fuck it why not set a mental note and force myself to remember this one to try and fuck with my future cause fuk it
>force myself to remember every detail, and keep a mental image of this moment
>year later
>itshapening!.jpg
>try everything in my power to get myself to do anything different
>nothing changes.
TFW things will never be the same
TFW you don't want to experience this again for the fear that you will see your own death and it be unchangable.
>Fuck life spoilers...

I see you people have you personal brainwasher around here, at full steam, telling you what to think.

I'm impressed, the amount of CAPSLOCK bullshit written in this thread is astonishingly big.

Let me tell ya, dreams don't happen outside of your little dirty mind. At most, they can help you feel better in the morning if they were about something nice. Don't let the scarecrow convince you of the contrary.