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Welcome to Divination General!

Come here for readings and discussion of theory/practice.

Every method is welcome: Tarot, Runes, Cartomancy, Scrying, Pendulum, Oracle cards, I-Ching, Tasseomancy, etc.

>If you're new, please read the STICKY:
http://pastebin.com/2Wp1Q074

>Guides made by some of our readers:
Rustig, wrote this to help beginners on how to choose a deck and how to start with the tarot:
http://i.imgur.com/2rodLWB.png

Thoth, made his own tarot and rune guide that wants to share:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ciFuMOVDIkA18d9Rw-Zkklgigx-Y4XzJkGVeMTYWcic/edit?pref=2&pli=1

>Some useful tips before posting:
New readers should post that they're offering readings and what information they require from a querent.
Look for their posts in the thread to determine what's needed and before posting, check if they finished reading already.
Some readers will refuse to do certain readings -- respect that choice. Also, bullshit queries will get bullshit answers.
An "air query" can be made to no one in particular, but no one in particular may answer!

>Readers and Querents:
Please, respect each other, let's keep things decent here.

IRC (Internet Relay Chat) channel for discussion:
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.sorcery.net/#/div/ination

Previous thread: >>17927093
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Anyone doing open readings?
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>>17931535
Sure, need name and your favorite color
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>>17931547
Jacob, green.
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>>17931550
The cards are telling me bad luck and extreme misfortune will infest your pathetic soul for all eternity
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Will I find love, tarot peoples.
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>>17931554
Well that sucks.
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I've found love, where should I deliver?
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Requesting a reading of my future as I delve into chaos magick and create special binding boxes for friends and others who would like a "safe box" for a created spirit.

19, Male, can provide other details. I am a wood craftsman. Will be working my way up to summon a succubus from the Giver as a contract for my life.
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>>17931570
Were you in that thread earlier with the j name?
It's gone
Not in the archive or anything.
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you in here doing readings, cheswick?
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>>17931554
>I dunt believe you anon. ur not a tripfag.
Haha
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>>17931570
>Requesting a reading of my future as I delve into chaos magick

Have fun jerking off on sigils faggot
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>>17931535
Rose, Purple.
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>>17931554
The secret is that's the truth for everybody.
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>>17931584
goddamn, meant to reply to:
>>17931547
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>>17931535
Not a tarot card reader, but when I think of you I see a dude racing in the middle of the night on a pedal bike, lights blurring by and can't really see anything you pass. I figure you're working too hard and taking life too quickly. You were wearing a white motorcycle helmet with the visor tinted black, perhaps you see things in a dark way and think you've got a good idea/view of the world? I also saw some thick gloves on you, and it means you're protected at work and what you do/put your hands to. It seems if you speed up or keep going too fast you'll hit something and get thrown into a ditch. However, if you go fast enough before getting launched you'd break your stubbornness of wanting to go fast. (if you decided to be stubborn.) So yeah, have fun with that.
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>>17931570
You'll be fine, even though you don't know what the fuck you're doing. The rhetoric will fuck your head up more than the shit you do, and you should really watch out for that.
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>>17931596
Well thats... Something I suppose. Thank you.
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Jack tax plz.
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>>17931554
You're going to get your asshole eaten by alligators
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>>17931584
You will never find love and will experience extreme loss throughout your miserable life
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Anyone doing love readings?
T, Aug 2
A, sept 26
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>>17931613
Can you do readings into names and see what comes up? Does that make sense?
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>>17931619
>>17931554
Trolling shouldnt be this obvious man.
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>>17931618
So sex with with sobek? Pretty cash famalam
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>>17931613
Sorry baout that. Was biting peoples necks out in Dwarf Fortress.
alright what did you want me to scry?
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>>17931613

>>17931621
i am also in this thread now.
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>>17931613
Cheswick...you have no idea. I went to sleep last night, not fully being to process something big I had jus realized then. What followed was one of the most horrible nightmares I've ever had. So bad, that I think my brain actively sought to erase my memory of it out of protection, rather than the natural forgetting that usually happens with dreams. It felt like the new ideas I was trying to process, I actually winded up processing in the dream, but in a horrible way, like my brain was torturing me as a way of conditioning what I was supposed to understand. Why did I dream what I did, and why was it so bad? Was there any spiritual karmic reasons?

I'm scared I wouldn't even want you to come in contact with it. It was like an alien's dreams. Or I don't know, maybe your interested and want to delve...
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ORION! you around?
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>>17931651
*being able to process
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>>17931565
>>17931613
You can always tag along spiritually aha

But will she fall for me though?
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>>17931655
You mean me? The guy who was trolling like two nights ago?
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>>17931666
Hey man can you help me practice scrying sometime?
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>>17931651
Cause it was a last life... I like it .didn't look to spooky.
Look into aura shields. If your real upset but it's going to happen again. Your supposed to learn scrying.
>>17931665
Yes she will.
Yay I caught a charmander today. And I walked 7 miles for it
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I'll do a few readings, any question.

What I need from you is you to add all the dates that make your birthdate, divide it by 3 and give me that number.
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>>17931666
Wasn't here two nights ago. Hope you had a good time trolling around here though.

Would you mind to check on my aura real quick?

Been working on some spiritual growth and would like some feedback if possible.
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>>17931686
177,330
Tell me what someone named Vine thinks of me!
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>>17931686
What's happening in my near future?
52.3
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>>17931686
676.667
How does love have for me in the near future?
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>>17931686
Does Anna love me?
663.667
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>>17931686
(07+23+1993)/3 = 2023

My questions is this.

I have a discomfort in my throat. It's been there for over a year now.

Is the issue emotional/spiritual or physical?
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>>17931695
Can you try that again? add the numbers don't put them together.
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>>17931686
676
How will the musical project that i am planning go?
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>>17931684
What did you see? It couldn't have been a past life...it was too weird. I was being put in weird pains.

I suck at divination a anyways.
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>>17931702
here
shit hahah forgot to divide

It's = 674.3333
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>>17931613
How long will it be until I'm with someone who makes my heart soar? I'm one sad and lonely dude and want someone to smooch. I kinda wanna know what they're gonna be like too, if that's not too much to ask.
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>>17931686
675
Was that "demon" in the thread I was in truly real?
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>>17931708
No your just not relaxing while scrying.

The pains are levels of activities that happened and you felt unsure about in the last life....
Like ergo death but felt.
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>>17931686
671.33

What does Anouk think of me? Did she love me
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>>17931684
Thanks for the scry, Ches.

nice, work out those glutes! I hope you got pikachu as a starter.
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>>17931690
here.
>>17931666
Last time I talked to you, you were doing some aura reads. telling people their aura colors and some advice.

When you did me you wouldn't tell me anything until I kill a part of me which was a "naive child" aspect of myself.

I was wondering if that's gone or if there's still progress to be done in that sense.
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>>17931686
does the number have any special meaning?
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>>17931698
Manual labor, lots of it, know why?

>>17931700
Love will be founded!

>>17931701
If she was previously married or in a longterm relationship, yes.
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>>17931723
wow.....this is really interesting. I don't know what to say.

More, more!
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>>17931716
There going to be charged with intense shyness.
I feel you need to find a shy girl and ask her out.
She will need work.
I think its awhile till you find her would be nice if you found her on r9k. .

There's another girl I feel at a workplace who will crush on you. Black hair and olivish skin.
Cute personality. This one isn't shy.
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>>17931590

What does this sign mean?
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>>17931706
It won't.............

>>17931710
Nope.

>>17931727
Only have a chance if you're catholic it seems, even then its still a ruse and not likely, but no she doesn't love you right now.
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>>17931756
lol

it means suck my dick
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>>17931686

>672.666666666666666666666666666~

Are she and I destined to cross paths again? If so what will happen?
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>>17931649

Cheswick, how much jack is necessary to appease you, so that you answer the last few questions from the previous thread ;)

>>17931756
Thats Linkin Park's logo.
seems it's only found on the dutch wiki page on them: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park go to the image gallery at the bottom.
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>>17931686
will i find some love soon?
678
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>>17931737
Thanks you!
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>>17931765
SHIT I FORGOT TO JACK
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>>17931613
should i ask her out tomorrow?
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>>17931728
Wtf I got bulbasaur... Did you get my fucking pokemon anon. That's it your now my famalam. Qt.14
>>17931737
But that's the scary jack that kills bv.
>>17931747
I know you've had other dreams too. Your very travelled in the universe. I wouldn't be surprised if your astral projections. Are actually your former memories opening up warrens To other planets for necromancy.
Your guides let on as much... Your meant to pull souls here to reincarnate them. From different dimensions.

Tell me more dreams op.

You need to develop a lot more. To understand everything.
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>>17931770
and another one to appease the Cheswick
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>>17931703
huh...
It comes out to 666 lmao.

Can you do my uery now?
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>>17931761
nope??

I was asking whether the problem is spiritual/emotional or physical? ?

Does "nope" mean not physical?
or
Does "nope" mean not spiritual/emotional?
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>>17931764
8 years from now, you'll both have kids with others by then, you'll be friends though.

>>17931767
If you get out there you'll meet it head on, but you what I'm seeing it says you HAVE to get out and you'll meet it head on and it will be fire.
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>>17931780
i don't think he's very good at this, check the other answers.
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>>17931765

thx^^ I knew it looked familiar but I just didn't remember
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>>17931773
Stalk and dodge until your sure.... But tomorrow if it doesn't rain is fine >>17931770
Wats the read.
Auras golden. You did something to enhance it...
>>17931765
Just the ones with his grey hat on...
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>>17931780
>>17931780
Oh damn, I meant to reply to someone who asked if a demon in a thread was real, I'm sorry I'll do yours right now.
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>>17931783

8 years huh? That'll give it some time. Thanks !!ci8lHu4X8rC
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>>17931780
Ok, It is a physical blockage within your throat, the answer was VERY clear about that.
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>>17931774
Well, that's an interesting theory. I just know I've had a fucked up life.

I have a lot of dreams, but I forget most of them after a few days because of how dense they are. I learn from them though. About life on other planets, and strange ways of perceiving this one.

I wouldn't mind hearing more though.
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>>17931799
Can I get a reading plz?
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>>17931806
Yeah, just do this >>17931686
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ROIGHT
anyone want something scryed?
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>>17931748
Aw gee, thanks. Never really thought anyone would actually crush on me. And I'm someone who needs work, so I wouldn't mind working on someone at all in return. I just hope I can make them feel appreciated enough.

So uh. If I hand over another Jack, couldja tell me if I'm gonna find anyone by the time the year's over? I'm so lonely dude. ;_;
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>>17931790
>>>17931621 →
that one still lol
and uhh yeah that aura stems from my sexuality, i just started masturbating.
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>>17931808
Sure.
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>>17931737
Bv...
Those are nice runes there matey.
Auras purple with almost a firecracker effect with rainbow... I'm guessing it's crazy or you've been dabbling with some hefty spellwerk.

Pretty hands...

See some work issues coming up. And a kid is going to bring you great advice.
>>17931762
No it's this sign that calls out to women and makes them horny enough to.
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>>17931808
Crikey, I'd love a good scry! Just how am I gonna be doing a year from now? Am I gonna be doing ok?
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>>17931774
lol ches. To get Pikachu you had to walk away from the three starters a couple of times and soon pika will appear as the fourth one.
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>>17931808

Two years from now where am I going?
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>>17931808
Praise Kek! Can I get a love scry?

Also, will Kek will Trump to victory?
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>>17931808
if I can fuck this bitch. and how hard.
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>>17931804
Dream journal time anon
Post your dreams.
It's never fucked up unless you have the power of inner growth... Honestly I can see your power lvls getting as good as mine
>>17931808
Scry me a river haha
>>17931809
I don't see much... I see opportunity but your avoiding conversation.... You need to talk to the girls more.
Especially brunettes your crush is a brunette.
>17931810
Yeah gold usually mean sexual encounter or jerking off.
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>>17931807
673
Should I go back and try with the girl at coldstone? If not are there better options?
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>>17931783
>it will be fire
wat
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>>17931799
Thank you. I've been trying to fix this but to now avail. I'm about to just over power my gag reflex and shove my hand down my fucking throat to try and clear the space.

It's extremely frustrating. Doctors say it's nothing wrong. That I'm just slightly congested, due to allergies but It's been going on for over a year.

I was thinking maybe it was anxiety or some sort of emotional distress, but I feel good in that sense, so it does make sense that it's physical I just have to figure out how to fix it.

Could you ask if shoving my hand down my throat is a possible solution??

My number is 674.3333
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>>17931832
i don't know.

i honestly can't describe them.

its mush that only makes personal sense. sure there's stories in them and all. but it's a private language.

a lot about gundams though. and music i make up in my head.
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>>17931843
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>>17931832
yeah i know man.
i was just asking if you could answer a few of the leftover questions from last thread:
>>17931621
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>>17931808
kek protects
tell me how my next semester in uni will go
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>>17931808
give me a scry man

what do girls generally think of me when they first see me
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>>17931836
You'll be invited back.

>>17931837
Fire was in the reading about love being found, have you never heard of love as a fire?

>>17931841
It's a toss up, honestly it may work, but its still adamant its a physical blockage, Id try the doctors again.
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>>17931808
does anouk miss me? what did she think of me
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>>17931858
>>17931837
never heard of said term.

i will just try to be out more then
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>>17931865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxgE4MZkJV4

You truly need to get out more.
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>>17931854
You start a decline.... Keep the grades up and watch your roommate he's a thief.

Also try out some spell work just for the lel.
>>17931859
Liked you... Why not text through social media
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>>17931858
>>17931836
That's pretty aesome because coldstones amazing and she seemed like shed enjoy doing the things I enjoy doing!
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>>17931868
>1968 song as a reference
shit, forgive me for not being a mummy
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>>17931871
dont have a roomate m8
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>>17931865
Like animal lust.... Have you ever felt it for another person yet?
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>>17931783
>>17931797

Also you said we'll both have kids by other people... does that mean we'll both be married, or was it specific for a reason?
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>>17931871
>Why not text through social media
met her like 2 years ago. We volunteered at the same clinic, both are pre med students. Never saw her again

She had a boyfriend but kept giving hints. I was kinda chubby so not too confident about myself.

FML family
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>>17931882
well i have felt lust but i dont think i have ever went bananas
maybe because im pretty romantic i dont feel that level of pure lust
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>>17931880
I see this guy and he will come into your life soon and steal... He's all white so could be anyone.
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>>17931885
Well, I just saw a meeting 8 years from now and children being involved, not children with each other but you both have.
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>>17931812
That wasn't me, as I just got home. I'm guessing you misread.
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>>17931891

Ahh, makes sense why it's so specific then.
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>>17931808
just kill me man
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>>17931888
That's why nothing sticking. You need to be attracted to them sexually not just emotionally and mentally.
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>>17931894
Oh good, I wouldn't want any trouble at work, want to give me a reading then?
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>>17931855
don't skip me m80
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>>17931901
I'm not done working, actually. I won't be done for like 2 or 3 more hours, then I'm going to bed.
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>>17931843
>>17931849
>>17931900
something i can tell you. the dreams last literally for hours. i used to sleep for over twenty hours at a time, and dreams would fill up all that time. it still feels that way today, even though i dont need to sleep that much anymore.
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>>17931894
Or saw your future.... But the aura of you is something else...

Wait.... Yeah I was scrying thoth... You must have thought of him then... To block me. Or crazy did... Hmm.
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>>17931686
671.33

what do girls think of me when they first see me
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>>17931907
What was it that changed? Just age or something personal forced the change... Cause your opening ap warrens subconsciously pretty strong potential in you.
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>>17931703
>>17931779
>>17931686
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>>17931909
You are very noticeable (not sure what reasons), you could have a powerful presence, a one people flock to and a person others admire, but you don't right now.

You can reclaim it though, cast down any friends who put you down and rise above them.

Thanks for asking!

Oh, so all and all, girls notice you, but take no interest, not as of yet.
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>>17931920
Well a few different things. Probably shouldn't say them. It all started around summer 2012 though, if you wanted to guess at it.
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>>17931808
Hows med school gonna go for me, will I finally get a gf?
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>>17931926
>Oh, so all and all, girls notice you, but take no interest, not as of yet.

SHIEEET time to hit the gym again
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>>17931923
Vine thinks you're pretty straight laced, break the rules more and don't seek approval from others.
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>>17931940
That's a factor, but its more about how you stand and present yourself, show you're power man.

Stand tall and KNOW you are above others.

But have integrity, be a good person.

You're going to have a good life man I'm proud for ya.
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>>17931949
thenks mommy :3

your son is gonna slay and lay left and right, make you proud mommy kun
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>>17931941
Awesome. Thanks
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>>17931686
>>17931949
672.666(repeating)

Should I stay or should I go?
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>>17931963
Go, but no need to go far, as far as you deem will work.
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>>17931941
btw did you see any indication of what kind of rules I should break?
The approval part makes complete sense,
but the rules part could mean a lot of things.
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>>17931979
There is actually a perfect saying for what you need to do "ask for forgiveness not permission".

Don't feel the need to ask about what you want or need to do.
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>>17931900
never said i was not attracted sexually, its just that i look down on dumb people so it turns me down even with a hot person.
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>>17931860
mhmm, knowing myself, she'd call by meditation and lucid dreaming, i'll call back.
Music should help me with that.
How on earth is her name pronounced?
Have you heard my name too? if so, you can call me by my name, even if you're not sure.

thanks a lot man. i will meditate on this.

wait a minute?! night as in between sunset and sunrise? i have the strange habit of being completely zen when in nature as long as it's between sunset and sunrise (night).

(reposted cuz other thread is dead)

basically the one question is how do i pronounce her name?
and some less important ones are if you can describe her a bit more and if she likes the same music as i do.
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>>17931982
>>17931686
could I fuck this bitch? and how hard?

673.666666667
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>>17931999
Easy, show integrity around her, never grovel for attention or her approval, don't make her #1 in your life.
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>>17931686

668

How can I ensure that the music I want to release gets the best start it can? Should I focus on putting it out now or refining it more? Thanks
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>>17932013
No dammit, how hard can I fuck this bitch? Paint a picture.
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>>17932017
Is your name Anthony?

Anyways, you need people to see it, they will like it.
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>>17932038
Not anthony but it does start with an A

But you're saying I just need to show it to people and it will pick up from there? Sounds too good to be true... Can you tell me anything about what a career in music looks like for me? Sometimes I worry that I'm not on the best path for myself

Thanks
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>>17932048
Yeah, you need people to want your music, they'll like it no doubt.

I don't think a career would be a good choice unless its a timeless music, if you're just playing the flavor of the month, you don't stand a chance.
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>>17931920
did my last girlfriend cheat on me? is that why we broke up the way we did? i feel confused about how she feels about me.. or who she really is
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>>17932069
She is very young emotionally. Why didn't you cater to her needs...
I feel it's left her bitter... Maybe stay away from this one.

Once you get over this girl you'll find a better woman more experienced in relationships on a grand scale.
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>>17931686
did I really screwed up and what's gonna happen to me in the future?

677
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>>17932090
I really tried, but I couldn't tell what she needed and it felt like she was trying to hurt me. But I think I was just being paranoid... Also you dodged the cheating thing so does that mean yes?

I know getting back with her is a bad idea, so is there anyway I can make her less bitter without leading her on or something? Or are we just not going to be friends and I need get over it...
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>>17932090
Just showing my support for Cheswick
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>>17931613
Why has C been hurting me like this? Does she just not give a dang about my feelings, or does she want me to hurt, or what? Did she ever actually like me at all? What's her deal? Asking you, cause the last time I tried asking her about things like this she said she felt like I was guilt tripping her.
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>>17932119
I think friends for the long term until December would be great.
Try in December to restart with her. And yeah she didn't cheat. Just really inexperienced.

Women need time to get over things. She actually thinks your angry still. I mean you could text her and ask to go and talk. But I mean it's really fresh still. Might wanna wait.
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Can i get a reading, cheswick?
Do you do general readings at this time?
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>>17932056
Hmm okay thanks. This kind of confused me more because I feel like every musician wants their music to be timeless? I guess I was asking if I will have a happier life I stop trying to pursue music, but I might as well just give it a shot.

Thanks again, this was helpful!
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>>17932134
Wierd is she nervous of you I can feel her being nervous not mad.
Ask her why. And buy her something.

She feels younger too...

I honestly don't think she knows what she wants. Ask to kiss her and see what happens.
>>17932131
>Awe +1tarot card for you
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>>17932150
what can i expect for the next 2 weeks?
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>>17932144
....
Or do what Jack white did anon. Worked for him
>>17932143
>We're is the Jack tax
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>>17932157
>jack tax
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>>17932154
A woman is arriving soon. Strange I heard a beatle around you...
Like as in the group.
Why is he hanging around you I wonder...

See some money coming to you in awhile.
And I think there's a theater production close you need to watch in the next two weeks.
Also watch your health for awhile. It's not the best ATM.
For the next 2weeks start a juice clense it's fun.
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>>17932150
Thanks. I don't really get it, I'm a huge pushover in the end and she's told me before she gets a really laid back vibe from me, so really, I'm confused on that nervous bit.

If she doesn't want me though then I understand. Thanks friendo.
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>>17932168
thank you
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>>17932167
See some flower baskets you need to put up outside.
And I keep seeing cowhide blankets around you... Maybe time to redesign your bedroom.

I see some shadow people around you and your neighbor... Has there been a death recently...
Or are they just attached.
Some pets crossed back to say hello to you.
And your totem is a beaver...
Hmm.
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>>17932157
ya know Jack White really does inspire me! I have thought about doing upholstery or something for cash ( and just cuz manual labor always makes me feel better) then working on my music on the side.

What's your advice Cheswick? You think I could show Jack my music and he would let me become his apprentice? Maybe I should focus on finding my Meg... (although she seemed kinda like a bad fit for the j man)
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>>17932183
Except she does... Which is weird....
She's weird you sure you really want this girl. Cause if you got some love oil it would change for the better...
But you need to go to a occult store for that.
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>>17932157
Love reading, please, Cheswick. I am male and in a relationship.
Thanks.
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>>17932150
>+1 tarot card for you
Thank you, I'll add a guidance card in my next reading!
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>>17932192
That would be nice but would you leave your family for Nashville...
But anon meg was with him when they got there start in the first place.
And he has had multiple past lives with her....
She got sick is all. Hopefully she gets better one day and they can get the band back together again
>>17932195
I see strife and misconception all around you....
Is it possible to talk about things and really pay attention.
I feel a pregnancy soon around you...
Welcome to fatherhood anon
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>>17932194
Naw actually, I don't know if I want her anymore. She makes me feel pretty unwanted when I already felt pretty worthless before me and her became somewhat of a thing. The whole shindig really took it's toll on my depression.

Here's to hoping I can find someone who doesn't make me wanna kill myself. Thanks again for the read, amigo.
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>>17932195
>>17932215

Oh well, that escalated rather quickly. kek
Hope things turn out well. Thanks.
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>>17932187
Thank you
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>>17932090
What's in the future for me, Ches?
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>>17932215

Hello! If you're still doing readings, I would like one. I'd like to know if the person I've fallen for feels the same and/or intends to act upon it. I'm a male.
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>>17931576
I chuckled.

>>17931579
Topkek

I need to sleep, so in order to drain my energy faster I will do 5 readings.
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>>17932268
Lots
More growth as you understand life is just a lesson.

I see a nice family dinner tomorrow. And I wouldn't mind if you went shopping with a girl this week.

I see your a little disappointed with your brother but that's alright.

I think you should try and stare into fire later to see if you can see anything.

See palm trees around you and I hear Georgia....

See a snake as a totem for you... So your supposed to heal people. Maybe by just being around them and cheering them up.

I feel something important may fall off and break later... Watch out.
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>>17932278
How close am I to astral projection?
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>>17932278
Read me then I can drain you.
>>17932270
They feel OK. I think if you approach them they will be undecided... You need to make them love you. Anyway what are you running away from ATM I think your using love as a deterrent to something else..
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>>17932290
Real close.
Usually if you stay up longer like 15+ you can slip right onto the astral plain

>now Jack tax
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>>17932290
Ugh sorry I forgot, give me a nick, and a gender please.
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>>17932301
Big G
Male
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>>17932215
Yeah I hope they get back together too that would be sweet, and I'm only a little surprised that they had multiple lives together. The music he was able to make with her does seem like it has more of a magical quality than some of his other stuff, but I remember reading an interview where he said it became draining to write songs with her or something. I bet he's just acting tough though, doesnt want to say he needs her

I think I could leave my family for Nashville, yeah. I mean I love them, but I gotta leave the nest, at least for a little while. And I could definitely do it if it meant I get my foot in the door in the music world.. I'll consider it
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>>17932301
Female
Cheswick
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>>17932301

Black Acanthus
Male

General if you're doing readings for others.
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>>17932295

Can you give any advice/see any paths that would be most fruitful in gaining their love? I suppose the hunch I had that they needed to approach me about it was right...

I don't feel as if I'm running away from anything. If anything, it feels as if I'm running toward this person. I'm drawn to them like a moth to flame - they themselves have said that they've never met a person who had more in common with them. It's shocked me enough to consult your help, at least, and that's to put it mildly.

The biggest problem around the whole situation is that it all seems so impossible to come to fruition yet I feel it must.
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>>17932278
Female
Lizard
Will I find a job soon?
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>>17932301
Male, Rafael.
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>>17932301

JT, male.
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>>17932330
>>17932330
Most likely before the end of this month.

>>17932311
I can't do general readings, I just can't it's like asking a calculator the meaning of life, with no input I can't do much.
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>>17932295
Hey Cheswick, I want to get more into occult magic, specifically I want to start giving readings. Do you see potential in me and where should I start? I don't really want to start with a deck and id prefer to do things non-traditionally if possible
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>>17932278
did I screwed up, will I have another chance?
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>>17932338

No generals? Okay then... what's my love life look like?
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>>17932322
I think you should focus. I know it seems nice but it's a lot of work.
I do see paths were your really happy and it works out.
The one in question is a soul tie from a India life.
It was great.
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>>17932301
>>17932342
female
Elvira
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>>17932338
Thank you *cries in tears of joy*
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>>17932338
>>17932337

This is me. Since you're not doing general readings I'll ask if my current plans are worth pursuing or if I should try something else
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>>17931686
Are you still doing readings? Will things between me and J ever be how they used to be?

My number is 670.3333333
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>>17932338
>>17932290
Don't forget me nigger
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>>17932338
Ur cute.
Tell me about Jack whites love life.
>>17932341
Well topkek go with wax scrying.
Or try reading with warcraft cards.
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>>17931808
When will i find a qt p2t
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>>17932364
Nani desu what do the numbers mean...
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>>17932377
Are you doing readings at the moment, Cheswick?
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>>17932346

>I think you should focus. I know it seems nice but it's a lot of work.

It's difficult to determine what I should focus on! It seems every avenue ends in a brick wall or me misinterpreting a "sign", and that really saps my will and focus.

>soul tie from an India life

I believe it. Now I'm gonna feel double fucked if it gets muddled, ha. Reading that made me really happy in a nostalgic way. You say it was great - how so?

I'm sorry if I've asked too many questions! I must hope the Jack tax covers it.
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>>17932382
Scroll up for magical techniques
There are fly totems around you. Kawaii.
Insects are my favorite.
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>>17932301
Ant
Male

How will I do in med school
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>>17932364
If it's really 672.33333 and not 670, definitely not.
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>>17932385
You know daily life love and Bollywood.
It ended and you got depressed as she was killed in a car accident.
You had four kids all bright eyed and happy. All had a family.
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>>17932288
Nice double dubs.
Feeling under the weather, going out will be nice.
Heal people, huh? Interesting to read that today. Had to tear my heart apart making my ex stay in the past. She relied so much on me.
Relationship isnt going well, things are sucking so much, and not in a way i would hope to... guess i am needing this trip around palm trees and georgia, Ches. And can only hope that what is about to break isnt this that i hold so dearly.
One animated jack white for the jack tax this time. Tried that cold tea you told me about, loved it. Thank you based Ches.
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>>17932370
Well i don't want to do it unless i can become powerful(like you)? Can I? I wanna be accurate

my bday is april5, 1995 idk if that helps
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>>17931532
I know I've fucked around in here before..Sorry
26
Brandon Love
Newport news, Va
23606
brown hair, brown eyes
5'5
230lbs
Gemini
Question, Hows the next couple of months looking? Will I get the job I'm going to the interview for?
Here's a pic of two things I like, mopeds and girls.
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>>17932401
>>17931937
Anyways, I didn't really dream when I just took a nap, but what happened (which does often) is interesting. Events and the way I felt about them were looped in my head. as if my brain were processing them, and usually a possible future is briefly shown which, though it never really comes out to be true, provides catharsis. It actually had to with being on here, this time, waiting for your reply.

Yes, sort of revealing my crazy power level.
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I've never done one of these before so forgive me if I fuck this up. Is there someone doing readings right now? Stuff's been going on and I need a little guidance.
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>>17932400
Its 670 not 672
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>>17932420
Been awhile since I've seen you here. Have a short read:

>Hows the next couple of months looking?
10 of Pentacles, 5 of Wands, 4 of Swords.
>Will I get the job I'm going to the interview for?
Knight of Wands (Reversed), The Hierophant, High Priestess.

It's looking good for you, albeit with some downs. Career and financials will be your main focus, and it seems you will invite some strife into your life possibly to do with romance or a situation at work. It doesn't look that bright in the romance department for you, but it's going to be a busy period of work and trying to be at peace with your inner self - something I think you've been lacking for awhile now.

Regardless, you'll learn a lot in the next few months and possibly have a new direction to head towards in your life. The beginning may be tough, though.

Also, watch out for a grill with red/auburn hair and some light acne on her face. I think you're going to have some luck with her.
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>>17931628
Are you asking someone to scry and tell you the names they see? (Random names?)
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>>17931686
676(3)
When will I marry?
>>
Any open readings?
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>>17932452
Literally in the OP.

>>If you're new, please read the STICKY:
>http://pastebin.com/2Wp1Q074
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A bit slow today so take my music and picture as a bump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU
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>>17933448
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU
While our generation have Justin Bieber, good job.
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Shit, I just got reckd by the place I was going to buy tarot cards from. The only had one deck and I couldn't be bothered waiting for them to restock (should have bought them online i know), so I bought them. Figured it'd be the same as tarot just different artwork.

Whoops. Instead I got "Healing with the angels" :/

When I went to return it, they'd closed the shop. Think I'm just going to open it now, doubt I can return it anyway. So, anyone want a reading from the angels? (kek)
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>>17933455
<3
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>>17933459
Sure! Maybe the deck chose you... just sayin'. Haha. Sorry, we have been having a lot of angel talks recently in the irc.
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>>17933459
>>17933466
I agree with this Anon maybe the angels have chosen you :P

sure why not, I would like a love reading please. Lets see what the angels say.
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>>17933459
What do the angels have to say about my current career situation? I'm trying to get into something new, but I have no idea what to do.
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>>17933466

Watch is this one witch's intent who is watching me?
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>>17933459
Sure. What information do you require?
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>>17933466
>>17933474
>>17933476
>>17933484

I guess it's a possibility lol.

Information wise, I think first name should be enough. (Gender too if you have both a male and female name)
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>>17933466
>>17933499
Cara
Thanks!
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>>17933499
Melissa
What should I focus on right now? What can the cards advise me?
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>>17933499
C , male

Love reading ,if you please.
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>>17933499
James for this one
>>17933476
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>>17933505
Body Care, Balance and Children

Body care: you are asked to care for your physical body

Balance: You have been very busy recently

Children: In terms of this spread, I'd assume that you should pay more attention to your inner child, or that new children are coming into your life soon.

If I had to guess, this spread could mean that you're either too focused on exercise and need to just have some fun, or the complete opposite and you've not been focused on your physical health and should play less games.

>>17933509
Nature, forgiveness and celebration.

Nature: You should spend some time alone in nature, it would be very beneficial to you.

Forgiveness: You need to let go of anger and resentment, you don't need to forgive the action just the person.

Celebration: Cause for celebration is near

From what I can tell, it seems you need to be more peaceful and one with the world, and should you do so you will feel much better.

>>17933511
Enchantment, Children and Reversed Self-Acceptance

In terms of love, I'd say that you either will or already have found someone you love. Children in this sense could either mean you need to be more playful and less serious, or that new children will come into your life soon. Reversed self-acceptance means you must accept who you are and just enjoy being yourself.

In this spread, I feel like you're far too serious and you must accept your childish side and express it more, without fear of being judged.

>>17933514
Romance, Friendship and New Beginnings

The first thing I thought when I read this spread was that you will encounter new opportunities, so you should carry on looking for something new. If I had to relate the other cards to it, you will likely find new friends at a new workplace, and perhaps a new love.

I hope any of these are accurate, sorry for being so vague on some of them, I'm struggling to find ways to interpret some of the cards.
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>>17933561
How does my career prospect look like?
Will I be able to achieve my goals?
I'ma female, 20
Thanks
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>>17933561
Thank you. A something I'm already working on.
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>>17933561
Thank you very much! We are going to stick with the inner child thing... please no more kids :/ haha. This message made me smile for reasons and I appreciate it.
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>>17933499
Aleksandar, if you're still here, thanks.
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>>17933499
Kaiko, female
Normally not a fan of love readings. But can you ask the angels if I will find love anytime soon just for kek
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>>17933561
3rd one here. I haven't found someone I love , not yet. The last two cards are on point... Could the child be my next love? Meaning a childish person?

Thank you so much
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>>17933499
Mel/female
when will I hear from n again?
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>>17933499
E
Female
Love reading.
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>>17933499
AN
How will I do in med school
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>>17933599
Male
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>>17933589
>Could the child be my next love?
MODS MODS MODS
kek
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>>17933499
John
Hmm. I'd also like to know what the angels say.
>>
r
should i buy weed from the guy ive been getting it from?
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>>17933566
No name but I'll try anyway.

Reversed trust, truth and integrity and new love.

It seems you don't trust yourself to be able to be able to achieve your goals. You should have more faith in your abilities. Truth and Integrity means you should probably let go of anything inauthentic and all activities that do not mirror your highest intentions for yourself. Perhaps you're trying to cut corners or cheat to try and reach your aspirations? New love in the book says a new chapter in your love life is coming, but I think that it could mean that just a new chapter of your entire life is coming which you will love. So I think you'll find a job which you truly love.

>>17933580
Harmony, listening, reversed playfulness.

It seems that recently a conflict has been resolved, and you should know that you deserve this peace and happiness. Apparently you are in communication with your angles, and the messages you are receiving are very real. Other than this, I could interpret it as you should pay more attention when listening to people as they could have valuable information. Reversed playfulness means you should be more relaxed and have some fun.

>>17933584
Celebration, reversed surrender and release, reversed playfulness.

Celebration could mean that soon you will have something to celebrate over, which could possibly mean love is coming. Reversed surrender and release means that you should stick to your guns and keep doing as you are. Reversed playfulness means that you should be more playful as perhaps you can come off too strongly at times.

>>17933589
Interesting, that certainly could be a possibility. I didn't even think of reading it that way, but you definitely could be right.

>>17933592
I'm not too sure how to do yes/no readings, so I just drew one card and you got truth and integrity, which could mean that you will hear from them soon but you have to be true with yourself and decide whether or not it is worth it to get involved with them again.
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>>17933638
thank you very much
>>
m
what should i do about the rest of the summer, in regards of relationships and friendships and family and money, or whatever else you see
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>>17933638
Aleksandar here again, you were right, I did resolve a conflict recently with a friend of mine, sort of. And yeah, I do feel myself that I should take some time and relax, seeing as I'm on a loooong-ass vacation. Thank you very much man.

Also, if it's not a problem, could you give me a quick love reading? It doesn't have to be detailed. If you can't, I understand and thanks anyway.
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>>17933638
thanks for the reading!~no name
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>>17933638
I believe the Child represents my next girlfriend. A few readers told me my next girlfriend would be childish and clingy.

Guess I won't find out until I meet this person...

Thank you so much for the reading , take care of yourself.
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Ill do some readings today, anyone interested ill need your gender, sign and query.

I am just practicing since i am a bit rusty. Dont expect much and please no love querys.
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>>17933698
M
virgo

what can i expect for this week?

please and thank you
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>>17933698
Male
Cancer
When am I going to die?
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>>17933638
Thanks for the reading anon
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>>17933698
female/aquarius/will moving into my school be better for me/will i ever get out of this town? (hope you dont mind thats technically two)
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>>17933698
Female
Pisces
What will August have in store for me?
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>>17933704

There is something overwhelming you in this week (world reversed) and this might be related to either paper problems or not getting what you have been working for (justice).

For some reason this issue or project is holding you from moving on. Even though the results are not being satisfactory you have invested so much that you just cant give it up. Altrenatively you might experience delays in a travel or something related over waters (Six of Swords Reversed)

In the end youll get the optimism you need to sort this thing out. Remember that in order to heal sometimes we need to have calmness and do what is practical. (the star)

Hope it helped and would like some feedback if possible.
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>>17933593
Reversed freedom, retreat and intention.

This could mean that you are feeling trapped, perhaps you really like someone but don't think you're free to pursue anything with them? Retreat means you should spend some time alone in quiet thought, and try to get your priorities straight. Intention means that you should make sure your thoughts and feelings reflect your true intentions. In terms of love I think that you might know someone that fits your criteria, but perhaps s/he has a history that you are struggling to overlook? Either way, you should spend some time in thought and see if anything pops up.

>>17933599
Reversed spiritual growth, balance, emerging.

I'm unsure to the relevance of spiritual growth, but if I had to relate it to the other cards then I think perhaps you will take studies very seriously, and not spend enough time trying to develop spiritually. Emerging could mean that you will be very successful in your studies and future.

>>17933606
Reversed abundance, enchantment, reversed divine guidance.

Reversed abundance means that support is coming to you right now, but you aren't appreciating and listening to it as much as you should. Enchantment means that you should try to recapture your childlike sense of wonder and awe. Reversed divine guidance means that the gods and angels are trying to speak to you, but you aren't paying enough attention. Perhaps there have been signs that you've chosen to ignore? Hopefully this carries more meaning to you, I'm struggling to understand this one honestly.

>>17933666

Sure, you got reversed playfulness, new beginnings and focus. Interesting that you got reversed playfulness again, I guess you really need to relax lol. New beginnings in this sense could mean that you will find someone new very soon. Focus means you should focus on what you want rather than what you don't want. In this sense it could mean that when you find someone you should try to focus on their good qualities rather than bad.
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>>17933698
Kaiko, female
Going to do a ritual tonight. what should I expect?
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Libra, male.
Will I graduate next year. And will my love interest bear fruit
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>>17933753
>Reversed freedom, retreat and intention.
It is true. Ive been dumped lately so yeah. I guess I do need time alone for now. I really hoped that my ex would be the one, but in his mind I wasnt.
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>>17933711

2041 (?) Tarot is not great for dates. that said, it will probably when you manage to get some small but good accomplishment. Perhaps not yours but from someone close to you.

I will appreciate feedback if you can :^)
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>>17933698
Sagittarius male. How's my career outlook?
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>>17933749
>There is something overwhelming you in this week
true

For some reason this issue or project is holding you from moving on
>i am working on a project for a while but the results have been pretty satisfactory, however there have been delays

the star tells of achievements so hopefully i can achieve what i seek

thank you very much for your efforts!
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>>17933728

>will moving into my school be better for me

It will be hard for you to do so? the cards says yes, but the process is (obviously, since you are asking) stressful. Some people has advice you to do it, right? You will find a way if you want to.

>will i ever get out of this town?

Definetly. Five cards point a yes and one points a no.

Lots of court cards mixed with the sun, makes me think that you will start a family somewhere else.


Hope it helped.
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>>17933773
OK I'll give you feedback when I die
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>>17933753
Aleksandar here again, thank you very very VERY much man. You're the boss.
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>>17933698
Male
Gemini

How can I make things better?
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>>17933499
>>17933474
Alexandra
Female
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>>17933754
>>17933698
Just realised I forgot the sign. I'm a Gemini
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>>17933698
female
aries
is my financial situation going to become better?
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>>17933753
>Reversed abundance, enchantment, reversed divine guidance.

Yep, I know what it's referring to. Thanks.
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>>17933748

There is some issues that you have been having recently? something depressing? probably related to a disappointment or something you want but cant have (five of pentacles). this issues are likely to continue, and this is related to some mistakes that you will continue making, seems like you need to sort your priorities straight (seven of pentacles reversed).

You might manage to get away from this but you need to be more calm headed. Dont rush and if you try to communicate do it clearly. Also, if a travel is involved check everything before you part. Is better to arrive late and safe that dont arrive at all (Eight of pentacles reversed)

In the end, you might get that message that you are craving for, or even meet new opportunities in romance.
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>>17933499
AN
What does about think of me
Male
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>>17933869
>Eight of pentacles reversed

I meant wands
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>>17933839
Reversed music, reversed answered prayer, new love

Reversed music means that you should make an effort to immerse yourself in music, it will help lift your spirits. Reversed answered prayer could either mean that you you haven't prayed and thus they have nothing to answer, or your prayers have been answered but perhaps you missed it. Either way, I'd say be more observant and see if you can see any signs. New love, pretty self explanatory. It means either a new partner or a rekindled love in your current relationship.

I'm still trying to figure out the meanings of reversed cards, as its pretty vague in the book but hopefully this still provided some insight.

>>17933871

New love, dreams, and ideas and inspiration.

I'm not too sure what your question, but I assumed you meant to say what does (s)he think of me? If that's not the case, then correct me and I'll do another reading.

Anyway, new love could either mean that they're interested in you. Dreams is a sign that you should pay attention to your dreams, as they will tell you a lot in the days to come. Ideas and Inspiration also means you should pay attention to new thoughts and ideas that come to you. If I had to guess, then you already know the answer to your question but you haven't thought about enough or choose to ignore your conclusion. Either way, if you're interested in them romantically then this could end well.
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>>17933869
How discouraging.

I'm in desperate need of a job by next month, and was hopeful I'd stop messing up and get it straight. And all of these cards sound pretty ominous regarding that.
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>>17933754
>The Heriophant
>Knight of Wands

I dont know what to make from this, but ill say its going to be good. Sorry for being vague and short.
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>>17933911

Sorry, thats what i got. If there is any counsel its been some time since i last read so my interpretations might be wrong and i am just wasting everyone's time :^)
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>>17933920
No, thank you. Seriously. Sorry if I sounded rude or ungrateful, it's just not entirely what I wanted to hear. Can't always be happy with the results, I suppose.

If anything, everything you said was very relevant to my situation in the coming month, including the travel bit. It's just not a happy read lol
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>>17933892
Can i get a read on when my life's gonna stop being boring?
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>>17931686
672

How should I begin looking to further my career?
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>>17931686
667.333333
My family health and happiness, mine financial future and love.
Thank you good sir my best wishes for you.
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>>17933892
that actually sounds exciting, well I was thinking of going to concerts but maybe next year. I really liked the new love thing :3 well I got in a fight with my ex so maybe things might look up for us I really hope so. thank you for your time :)
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>>17933940
I wouldn't know how to do that, sorry. Hopefully another reader can help you though.
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>>17933892
Isaac
Can I get a love read please? I'm feeling pretty lonely and heartbroken, and would appreciate it on levels unknown to mankind.
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>>17934019
Sure thing.

I drew support, meditation and friendship.

Support means that simply you are not alone in this time. In this set it is characterised as angels and God watching over you, but if you don't believe that then there are other people who would like to support you if you give them the chance.

Meditation means that you meditation would be very important for you right now, and you should practice meditation as much as you can.

Friendship means that changes in your friendship are occurring and you should be honest with yourself and your friends. Another way this could be read is that you could make new friends or you should get in contact with old friends.

Since you've given me some context, I'd suggest that you find friends or family and just try to take your mind off things: it will all work out eventually. (Friendship, support and meditation.)

Unfortunately there's not much about future love, but perhaps a new or existing friendship could lead into something greater. I'm sorry there's not really anything to do with love in these cards, I'm sure that's not what you want to hear.
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>>17933499
Ant
Male

What do girls think of me when they first see me
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>>17933786
thanks, it does help a lot
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>>17933698
f, Aqua
is he seeming off for a reason or am I just being annoying? did I stress him out too much last time we were together, idk what his issue is, I don't wanna end things, does he?
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>>17934058
I decided to just draw one for this question, and I drew reverse playfulness.

This suggests that you appear as a very serious person that is more work than play. Hopefully that helps.
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>>17933499
Richard
Male
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>>17934055
Thanks, don't worry! This reading was definitely wonderful to hear, it's not like I'm so thirsty that I'm disappointed to hear I'd just be gaining friendship. Friends are nice, thank you. I hope you have a lovely day.
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>>17934083
It certainly does thank you mate
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>>17934086
Signs, reverse spiritual growth and reverse trust.

Signs indicates that you should pay attention to the messages left by angels. Notice and trust these signs, no matter how insignificant.

Reverse spiritual growth means something is blocking your spiritual growth. Perhaps you have too many doubts or fears about any of the research you have done.

Reverse trust means that you should trust the divine entities and have faith that they're with you.

This is a very spiritual centred spread, so hopefully that's relevant to you in some way.
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>>17934070
also my bad if this sounds like a love reading but we're not together we're like casual friends or something
>>
Male
-Always want to know how my financial situation will be in the future.
-Will I have another child also?

Thanks!
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rhan
male
pls
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>>17934128 Name is Robert btw.
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>>17934128
>>17934132
pls read the sticky
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>>17934137
Can I have a love reading, please?
Shelly
20
Female
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Ankh
Male

What will my financial situation be like in future
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Meyo
Male
What does she think of me - her initials are NP
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>>17934161
No fuck off
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>>17934161
haha please forgive this person that wasn't me but yeah you should ask someone who is currently reading ^_^
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>>17932410
>not the way I hoped to...
Topkek

You need to relax and take off of life for awhile. Like Netflix and chill.

Do you have a PlayStation. Farming s+ ranks on mgsv is fun.
>>17932413
Yeah but it will take drive and practical experience
I see someone coming over this weekend... Have fun op.
Also feel Spirits want to talk and really get to know you.
Hey I feel you don't know much history is it possible to pick up a world war 2 book and read about it.

April.... So a Taurus? Good luck with that kek
>>17932431
Your projecting into the multi dimension
It's true just happening Somewhere else.

Your not grounding yourself with the world root.
And the warrens are pulling you everywhere.

Got a lot of magic power try to find a professor x to help you control your powers.
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>>17934183
>Top45kek

I see this weekend will be fun. Try and download a new show to watch.
And a ghost dog was sitting near your door looked like a tiny puppers
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>>17934129
>>17934232
me pls mane
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>>17934119
>This is a very spiritual centred spread, so hopefully that's relevant to you in some way.
Yes, it's very relevant for me. I know that "blockage" but i cannot determine what is it. However i cannot see any messages left by divine entities, so i assume that they've abandoned me.
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>>17934238
Have you been seeing repetitive numbers, things that you would think are a coincidence, a nagging voice in your head?
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>>17934232
Hey Ches, you reading atm?
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Any one doing readings?
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>>17934283
>>17934283
>>17934283
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>>17934264
You got five fingers and no thumbs.... That's sinister mang.
>>17934235
Feel this is about a crush... Is it?
Watch out for hot drinks... And burns in general...

Try for less spicy food.

And give a tree some water this weekend.

I feel aliens are around you in the spirit.... Watch the warrens you open...
You need to head over to pol later for some kek
>>17934250
IRON PRICE M8
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>>17934264
I'll be doing some later this morning after gym and heircut
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>>17934296
Haircut.... Don't like the sound of that...
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>>17934232
I started watching scrubs so...
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Good sirs I am looking for some readings, so who is free for some time plz tell me.
Thank you.
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