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/sum/ Summoning Magick General: Minimalist Edition

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Welcome to /sum/, this is the thread for anything to do with summoning (evoking, invoking, etc) demons and other things like gods and spirits

Want to learn about ritual magick, summoning etiquette, and roll around in all the inevitable shitposts? This is the thread for you!

>PLEASE READ THE STICKY http://pastebin.com/ZHPM0KVz

It contains a complete step-by-step guide to your first evocation. Don't forget to post your experiences and results (or lack thereof) here so we can all learn from them.

The curious, the skeptical, the critic, the practitioner, the babe, the Grand Magus, all are welcome here!
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>>17929802
>Grand Magus

If, and only if, they fail to point out the obvious.
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>>17929802
Last night tried to speak with Amun Ra, deemed the God king of ancient Egypt. Went into deep meditation, taking around 20-30 minutes to access him. I was thrust into a desert, I could feel the sand slipping through my fingers as I grasped at it. I walked for a bit, it seemed endless. A large temple arose out of the sand, it wasn't a pyramid, it was a temple I recognized before, one that was built into a mountain yet it was not cast into one. I went inside, the halls were dark, lit only by a few torches. The walls glistened with golden embellishment and hyrogliphs, I couldn't read them however. I eventually reached the main chamber where he sat, he was around 20-25 feet tall, black as ebony with gold jewelry. He asked me what I disturbed him for, I asked for a way for never ending life. He didn't say anything, I was then thrust into a chamber, lying on a piece of sandstone. There was another raised platform identical to mine about 10 feet away from me with a man lying on it. I looked up from my lying position only to be pushed back down by a Jackal, it might have been Anubis but I can't be for certain. The ritual began and blood seeped out of the man and went into grooves on the floor and entering my body. It was a feeling unlike any I have had before. It was as if I felt invincible, my body tingled and felt powerful. I began to raise up with a swirling vortex of wind beneath me, I released from my meditation to find myself 6-8" above my bed and immediately falling back down onto it upon my awakening. It was the most incredible experience, but I'm not sure what the cost for it was.
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>>17929827
You okay with human sacrifice vampire-bro?
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>>17929816
You mean to say they're only welcome if they point out delusion and shitpost?
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>>17929889

Nope, quite the opposite.
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>>17929901
I'd hope so too, but somehow I don't think many of that Caliber would hang out around here.
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>>17929919

I don't hide the thread, but don't pay close attention, either. It doesn't seem particularly serious.
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>>17929923
Just check in every 6-8 hours for your daily doses
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>>17929933

I glance at it, when it breaks the front page.
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Is it really a good idea to try and summon ancient deities and demons?

Like could I be cursed or some shit from trying to speak to Baphomet?
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>>17930103
I have a daemonic sigil drawn on my ribcage right now.

I don't feel cursed.

You'll be alright bro
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>>17930103
>Is it really a good idea to try and summon ancient deities and demons?

Not without substantial experience with ceremonial work more generally.
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>>17929827
Can you go into detail on how you accessed/communicated with him. I'm intrigued.
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>>17929827
I, too, have seen X-Men: Apocalypse
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>>17930120
I too, was thinking that.
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>>17930114
Normal meditation methods work but it's difficult. First, as I begin my meditation I lie down, eliminate any distractions, light or noise. I usually meditate at night for ease of access into the world beyond ours. Be comfortable, a pillow, soft mat or blanket will do. I on occasion use music but rarely as I feel it is a distraction for my mind however this is subjective. Clear your mind of thoughts, travel to wherever your mind will take you. My mind always takes me to a snow covered plane, wind whipping across the ground with snow drifting along. Trees sparsely cover the land, I consider it my mind's "home." From there I walk around, try to access who or what I want to connect with. This is critical because you just be VERY specific. You do not want to find something you're not looking for. It took me a while, but I finally was able to reach him, arriving in his "home", the desert I specified in the earlier text.
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>>17930125
Thanks I'll give it a try later when I have plenty of time
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>>17930107
So do I start with something small like a dead pet or some shit and work my way up the spiritual hierarchy?
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>>17930130
You read the pastebin in the OP.
http://pastebin.com/ZHPM0KVz
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Maybe I'm just bitter because I've been having issues with getting results, but I'm having trouble swallowing these stories of people being thrust into deserts or becoming biographers to demons or getting familiars they can see at all times.
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>>17930203
A strong lust for results usually leads to bad results.

You have to have passion, but not be really invested in the tangible.

It's tricky but, just relax and continue to work rituals.. The results WILL come.

Physical manifestations are rare regardless of what anyone here tries to tell you.
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>>17930130
>So do I start with something small like a dead pet

I don't even.

I'd start with simpler ritual work and build from there.
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>>17930203
>I'm having trouble swallowing these stories of people being thrust into deserts or becoming biographers to demons or getting familiars they can see at all times.

As well you should.
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>>17929802
Why Wittgenstein?
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>>17930203
Supposedly a demon last night offered us pic related if we typed the first part of his name to extend his stay.

Even if it didn't happen, its still a nice read. Always doubt, but choose what to believe in.

I seriously doubt any fat neckbeards could evoke, invoke, summon, or communicate with God tier or higher tier spirits.

Focus on meditation, calming your mind completely, no distractions first. Practice meditation, making your mind blank.
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>>17930250
And a larger pic of the circle

I am not responsible for what happens when you do this. Especially the part about breaking the circle.
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>>17930235
He's a Grand Magus, Why else?
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>>17930259
>>17930235
>>17930250
>>17930203

6Xz84l

volafile room for general files related to /sum/. I uploaded a few.
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What happened to the Orobas posters?

[spoiler] and can someone tell me why the heck there is so much porn when I search him? [/spoiler]
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>>17930272
Japan, anime, furries etc.
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What's a good offering for Sallos helping me out getting a gf? I don't just want to beg.
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>>17930164
I'm too lazy for all that, plus it's cooler when you explain shit to me
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>>17929802
Summoning magic sounds cool, but honestly id prefer information on necromancy, if such thing even exists to any sort of degree. Not zombies, but speaking with dead, extending live etc.
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Before I start, what should I do if I accidentally broke the circle before I summoned?
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>>17930507
Ah fuck it, hopefully I don't die but I'm too hyped right now to wait. Wish me luck.
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>>17930507
>>17930521
Good luck anon
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>>17930507
Report back friend!
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>>17930521
Well that was disappointing, fuck all happened until after the ritual.

>attempting to summon Furcas
>everything set up, accidentally broke circle but w/e
>light candles
>Hear me Furcas etc.
>nothing
>do it again
>nothing
>do it third time
>nothing
>ask him to show me a sign if he's here
>nothing
>ask for what I wanted anyway (to be taught the art of rhetoric)
>nothing
>offer to spread his sigil and praise him
>nothing
>sigh
>"Using the hexagram of Solomon I bind you to our contract"
>license to depart
>blow out candles
>start packing shit up
>see the triangle might have been broken, or it must have moved when i picked up seal
>randomly start shuddering, no idea why
>randomly start sweating much much more than I normally do (not even too hot)
>reiterate license to depart, just in case
>stop shuddering and sweating
>spooky.jpg
>finish cleaning shit up and come post here.

I can't tell if at the end something happened or I just went a little crazy for a second, but other than that I'm kinda disappointed.
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>>17930657
A disappointing experience is a good first impression, this isn't child's play that you read off your anime board and wa-la! Magic!

You should meditate regularly and be more in tune before attempting again.

Make offerings to him regularly, a cup of wine usually works well. Light a candle and say a prayer noting the offering. Leave the cup out.

Perform a cleansing ritual beforehand and whatnot as well, make sure your circles and triangles are fully intact!
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>>17930677
>Make offerings to him regularly
Not that guy, but I can't leave food/wine out because I live with people.

I heard you can eat/drink the offering yourself if you invite the demon into you. Do you have any experience with that?
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>>17930694
Controlled possesion is
A) hard to controll, and you dont want a demon fucking with the world (as they enjoy) through you
B) dangerous, as without grounding work you can end up psychotic, depressed, or some would say dead, without serious grounding and preparation

Its much harder than just offering. Itll either take years of work or being born a shaman. Even being born a shaman, youd start with other, friendly spirits coming into you, before you let w fucking demon do so. I was lucky to not get fucjed up by narbas, and he only left me depressed up untill now, but eight after the ritual i barely crawled to the fridge to perform grounding rituals/reenergizing rituals with milk.

You can leave ifferings outside, id even say its better if they are outside.
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>>17930677
Yeah I didn't really expect much, just kind of surprised nothing at all happened.

I already meditate every other day for 10 minutes most of the time, sometimes I'll go higher. I kind of impulsively did it today, so I was thinking of doing it again tomorrow (at night rather than the evening). Do you think that's a good idea or will nothing happen again?

>Leave the cup out
How long should I leave it out for?

>Cleansing ritual
Could you link me to one? Not sure if the LBRP is counted as a cleansing ritual.

>make sure your circles and triangles are fully intact!
Yeah, as I said it was a bit impulsive, so I wasn't as careful as I should have been. Whoops.
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good info along the lines of the sticky:
http://library.napalm.com.br/books/new/Phil%20Legard%20-%20Goetia%20made%20Easy.html
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>>17930767
Impulsiveness is the polar opposite of what you want here my friend.

You need to build up a connection here through regular minor rituals and offerings, you need a tangible rapport and respect for your chosen entity.

Leave the cup out forever, until you can't leave it out any longer and it's decomposing.

A cleansing ritual... like a ritual bath before the summoning, cleansing the body with water and sea salt and whatnot. Ritualistically preparing yourself for the occasion.

Meditate before you attempt contact, get yourself into an altered state of consciousness through whatever means you like best.
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Who's the best demon to help a lonely neet get laid?
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>>17930824
Going outside, or the paychiatrist/psychologist for social phobias.

Np senpai
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>>17929827

nice share anon, i feel like if you did summon a god you summoned a piece of the higher soul of an entity or energy that had spiritual characteristics Amun Ra had at the time he was labeled Amun ra, so the images you saw where your soul interpreting the truths that were the higher souls purpose at the time. When you asked for never ending life "he" probably dismissed you because at the time that was what "he" was yearning for as well. life does this thing of closing time loops when teaching truths.
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>>17930831
>just b urself
That would be much easier with the help of a demon. So whats the best demon to bring girls into my life?
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>>17927869
I want a familiar that feeds on my fear and eliminates it.
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>>17930858
See

>>17930250
>>17930258
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>>17930858
Yes b urself, youre constrained by anxiety, long learned patterns of antisocial behaviour and probably lck of social skills. What prt of "fix your own problems" do you not understand?

A demon can help you fix that, it wont bring any women to you without you being in the smallest amount attractive, or interesting, because youll still have the inhibitions.
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>>17930890
>What prt of "fix your own problems" do you not understand?
I'm trying bro but it's hard af. It's probably going to take years.

So, I need a demon to turn the tide. I'm thinking Sitri. Maybe he likes neets.
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>>17930784
Yeah, I just saw a time where I wouldn't be disturbed and had (most of) the stuff required to do the ritual in the sticky.

How would I get closer to him without offerings? I think leaving offerings laying around would be pretty tricky.

I should have meditated before I started, you're right.
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>>17930911
NEET Fat ass here.

This seems like some serious stuff, yet fun at the same time. If I get to go to Uni this fall with everything as planned I intend to get heavy into it, making sigil boxes of wood with lock and key for re-usable servitors w/o consciousness.

You really need to fix your own problems by yourself, obesity for example is a symptom not a problem in of itself. You need to fix yourself and strengthen your will and mind in order to be a successful summoner, or have decent experiences with the spiritual world.

Your body is a temple after all. If you want help, motivate yourself. Take meds (I am). Part of my motivation is potentially summoning the succubus but would I do that now? Nope. I'll do it when I'm /fit/, have lots of sexual energy and stamina, and when I'm in a better living situation/have been practicing meditation for a bit.I imagine I'll be ready to undertake very simple servitor's within a few months of consistent meditation, lucid dreaming, and attempted "astral projection".

Good luck anon. Take care of yourself.
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>>17930915
Offer him things that aren't physical, offer to spread his word and his name and sigil, offer him your time in prayer and meditation towards him, offer him a % of your energy. Just don't say you'll do something and not do it, you'll be in breach of a verbal contract and in trouble then.
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I leave for a few threads and this is what happens
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There is something I have been wondering about for a while now and I don't know where else to ask. When I was about 14 I had an edgy rebellious phase where I decided to do a ritual to pledge my soul to Satan. I got a candle and a piece of paper and wrote a vow on the paper that renounced god and pledged my soul to Satan. I pricked my finger and signed my name in blood on the paper and then burned it in the candle. The thing that really stands out in my memory about all of this is that whenever I blew out the candle,I felt a sensation like water running down my left arm. I turned the light on immediately and there was no water or liquid anywhere and my arm was completely dry. It was a very weird experience and I have always wondered if that ritual actually did anything. I want to know what /sum/ thinks.
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>>17930760
Since you're into shamanism and stuff, do you see auras and spirits out of trance? Just curious.
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So I just attempted to summon Sallos and I think I may have been successful but I'm not sure, I saw a flash of light up in the sky directly after I chanted to call him forth the first time, but after I chanted that 4 more times I didn't get any hard signs except I felt kind of a relaxation in my neck and back

I think I may not have summoned him because my summoning circle was a little hastily done, but I had every detail or graphic that was necessary, I even hand drew his seal
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>>17929802
Did A.M.S take anybody's case via email and summon for them? He completely ignored my email, and I'm not sure why.
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>>17931863
He's been very busy getting through everyone's emails but trust me, by no means has he forgotten yours or anyone's

His email is [email protected] for anyone interested
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So does anybody have any more specific stories about who/what they summoned and what kind(s) of bargains they made? I read the last thread and all I was seeing were people saying they had success, but the refusing to elaborate for reasons that were very reminiscent of "that kid" in school who found secret video game glitches that no one had ever heard of and refused to prove it.
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>>17931929
I did a guided meditation recently with a friend and he told me to call on Vine, which I did.

I didnt ask for anything really to be honest.
But I could talk about that if you want.
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>>17931972
That'd be neat. Thanks.
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>>17930203
It's psychosis or lies. Very few genuine cases.
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>>17929802
can anyone help me with Smough and Ornstein? place your summon sign outside the door if yo can.

inevitable shit post. sorry not sorry.
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>>17931980
>>17931980
Me and my friend were talking throughout it.
suppose I'll green text.

>Meditate into trance
>Give the word that I'm ready to start
>I'm in a hallway with doors in the vision
>See a series of different things as well as some parts becoming a black abyss at certain spots in the vision
>After a bit of time he suggested I call on Vine.
>Reluctantly did so because I didnt want to break the trance by arguing.

After calling upon Vine.

>The door at the end of the hallway was replaced with a mirror covered in cracks
>I see him staring at me from inside of it as if the reflection was suggesting I was him.
>His face was of a lion with a somewhat short black mane
>Told my friend what I was seeing while attempting to keep concentrated on the visuals during the meditation
>Vine climbs out of the mirror and approaches me
>He smiled and put his hands on my shoulders
>I asked him to guide me through the rest of the meditation and then one of the doors opened up to reveal a black stygian abyss
>I was plunged into it and at that time decided to break away and discontinue the meditation. (Which I regret.)

Not the most interesting story I suppose but I found it useful on some levels.
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>>17932020
>Needing help with a meme boss
Literally shit tier
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>>17930258
This looks like a posh garden patio design.
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>>17932024
Wow. I wonder what could have been in the abyss for him to show you. Thanks for sharing.
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>>17931802
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

So the girl I asked Sallos to help me out with literally texted me 30 minutes later, for the first time in a month, out of the blue


Wew lads let's go
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>>17931929
had a friend channel something that wouldn't tell me its name.spoke Latin, which i understand and my friend does NOT speak. I said I wanted power and it said it would be mine. I told it not until I knew the price. the answer I got really blew my mind. The price has already been paid.I went through hell as a kid, but at that point in my life, no one knew about it.
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>>17932020
you fucking pleb just summon solaire his sign is on the stair well. Easy mode: kill ornstein first. Harder mode: Kill smough first.
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>>17932109
holy shit that settles it I am gonna summon him!
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>>17931917
What, are you his little fucking lackey?
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>>17932147
I'm seeing her Friday, have also been lifting frequently for about a month now so I definitely look better than the last time she saw me

Will let you lads know how things go this weekend, we're spending 3 days together
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>>17932109
Do you mind explaining your situation with the girl, if it's not too personal.
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>>17932114
What happened to you as a kid?
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>>17932165
No of course not

I've known her for about 6 years now, we've had periods of talking a lot or not really much at all

Lately I've sort of started liking her a lot, she got me through some shit with my ex and has always been a little flirty

I simply asked Sallos to instill some feelings of attraction or love provided that I treat her well and faithfully (since he's all about that shit)

I asked him to give me a sign of some sort, I was very surprised that she texted me only 30 minutes after I summoned him
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>>17932109
Fucking nice. Thank you based Sallos.
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>>17930235

Because he was just as sloshed as Schlegel.
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Was going to evoke Hecate, but ended up just making an offering and praying, even after the trouble of making a circle and lighting a candle.

I prayed for help either getting a girl my mind has been trapped over, or at least settling it so I know it's impossible to keep trying. I also asked for her to help instigate positive change in my life.

I felt nothing and feel possibly worse than I did before doing it, as if I was calling upon deaf ears. Oh well. I meant no harm.
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>>17929802
I'd like help summoning a love goddesss please.
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I've never really been one for the classical interpretations of demons, but Im curious if there's anyone here who buys into or is intrigued by the idea that the dreams HP Lovecraft's drew inspiration from were at least semi-prophetic and if any headway has been made contacting such entities
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>>17932641
Did you read the sticky?
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If my native language is not English, do I have to translate the summoning spell?
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>>17929802
Did my first ever demonic evocation yesterday

No visuals or auditorial hallucinations but the power. My arms and lips were vibrating just the energy i felt. Oh man

Probably didnt have the success i wanted because the i didnt calm my ass down to focusl. When i told king paimon to depart because i stated i wanted him to mentor me the vibrating energy disapated up into my arms and out my fingertips. Heightened senses lasted 3 hours after that

Im doing it again tonight during the full moon. Any advice on what i should do to fully be able to hear him?
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>>17931741
If i dont do a trance in a long enough time, spirits will start appearing and fucking with me, i occasionaly see auras but really rarely. On war cementarirs and places of masacre, with which poland is riddles i sometimes faint and have visions of the past, or feel the wounds of soldiers being shot. Shit sucks man
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>>17932760
Do you meditate at all? You should start asap if you don't. Also, make sure to do all your daily things(washing dishes, sweeping) so it won't obstruct your focus. If you are unable to hear him then pay close attention to your imminent dreams.
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>>17932828
>If i dont do a trance in a long enough time, spirits will start appearing and fucking with me
Why they do dis?
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>>17932840
Idk, afaik they just want to speak, and in one of my incarnations i had made a pact with them or something. But im not really sure, uts just what i read explaining why.
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>>17929802
>Magick
It's majyckk you filthy casual
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Quick q: blood as an offering. Yeah it's "dark" and "taboo" and all that but so is all of this shit anyway. Would, say, piercing your finger (or a willing donor) and squeezing some into a small cup or something be a cool thing to do? Seems kind of a better offering to me than posting a sigil on the internet assuming it's valued and there isn't some kind of spooky downside but I'm new to all this.
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>>17932920
Dont offer your own blood. Supposedly it may hind the demon to you. Ive heard people saying nothing happened to them when doing it, and ive heard people say realy bad shit happened. Also depends on the demon i guess, but id refrain from giving your own blood nevertheless

Sacrificing animals on the other hand is the perfect thing, but then again, i wouldnt be able to kill a fly without feeling bad. Plus its hrd to do when living in the city.
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>>17932920
Blood is a relatively potent offering but it does create a bond/link between you and the spirit. (i.e. influence your thoughts, possesion.) Just make sure you cultivate a healthy relationship with the spirit before you use your bodily fluids as an offering.
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>>17932985
How much blood do you need?
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>>17932941
>>17932985
Thanks, that makes sense. Only sacrifice own blood if looking for a closer bond with a spirit, so only the sort of spirit you'd actually want an ongoing relationship with.

Animals on the other hand sounds like a great idea. I'd consider pets off limits but urban critters or maybe some kind of rodent from the pet store could be convenient (people buy them to feed to other animals so whatever). I'll be sure to post if I come up with something.
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>>17933168
Frozen rats are your best shot, but the easiest moraly for me would be a chicken. Just chop the head off and let the blood flow.
But od do that outside not inside... Unless you lie blood everywhere.
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>>17933239
>Just chop the head off and let the blood flow.

Have you actually done this or at least seen it done?
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>>17933168
You're misunderstanding the purpose of animal sacrifice, you don't sacrifice rodents and things you have no need for or connection to.

You sacrifice a symbolic cow that could provide much food and prosperity to you, you train and form a bond with a pet bird that you love- you then sacrifice it.

The purpose of sacrifice isn't the physical act, but the non-physical intent of personal sacrifice itself.
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Sallos is great
good luck man
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>>17929802

I'm curious to learn more about summoning, but can anybody qualify what the difference is between religion and spirituality in the case of demons?

Ive thought on almost a daily basis that my life is more of a burden than a blessing. My feeling was I was living in a shadow cast by a demon. maybe it's Hollywood stereotyping but in my mind I understood demons to be bad so recently I went to a church and got baptised (I wasn't at birth) to try and get closer to "God", to lift the 'darkness' ... But then... nothing. Morally I'm a good person already, but life is still ...the same ...if God cannot strengthen my mind and inspire positivity, or create some sort of change in my life... can summoning spirits or demons really alter my experience?

Don't really know what else to do...
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>>17933307
Not irl. Voodoo/hoodoo/voudun rituals though. I wouldnt be able to kill a chicken - dont have the guts to.
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>>17933362
This guy is completely right. Lol, and I just peered into this thread from his post. But, yeah it defeats the purpose of sacrificing something, if it has no real importance to you.
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>>17933529
The act of sacrificing an animal isnt an easy tasj, atleast for me. The very act of kiling an animal is me sacrificing my borders of morality etc. so he is right in some sense
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>>17933525
a friend of a friend found a burned goat in the basement of the Monasterio del Diablo, an abandoned monastery were all the friars were killed "by the devil". Is a famous hunted place here. Do you know of a ritual that fit into all of this? All the basement was burned and the inversed pentagram was in a wall. I always thought it was made by edgy teenagers satanists but who knows.
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>>17933548
>hunted
haunted*
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All you guys even entertaining killing animals - fuck you, you fucking pathetic pieces of shit. Don't harm another living thing for the purpose of your stupid fucking roleplay, asshats.
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>>17933603
Unless it's a worthy offering, because nobody wants frozen mice that cost you almost nothing.
>demons and spirits only like fresh kills of significantly higher value to you or larger quantity that would otherwise be wasted

>I've never summoned anything and even I can wrap my head around this :/
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>>17933465
>Ive thought on almost a daily basis that my life is more of a burden than a blessing. My feeling was I was living in a shadow cast by a demon.
Would you mind expanding on this? Why would you believe a demon has cast a shadow in your life? Have you experienced paranormal phenomenon or is your life just filled with bad luck and misfortune?

>recently I went to a church and got baptised (I wasn't at birth) to try and get closer to "God", to lift the 'darkness' ... But then... nothing.
I hope you put in more effort than that. Did you go to church regularly, read the bible and pray?

>if God cannot strengthen my mind and inspire positivity, or create some sort of change in my life... can summoning spirits or demons really alter my experience?
I believe you can if you consider how much success people have had with it already(Not only in this forum). I'd say go ahead and try evocating a spirit of your choice and see how it goes. Just be respectful and genuine
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>>17933548
The rituals are usually co structes by the person who does them. There isnt really a set of "do exactly this, this then this" for summoning. So i guess anything couldve been donethere, probably a summoning of something.
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>>17933640
Fuck anyone who's thinking of killing an animal for their edgelord roleplay, whether it's a "worthy" offering or not.
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>>17933942
Dickheads like you shouldn't be involved in these threads then
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>>17933942
>implying you've never heard of shitposting
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>>17933937
>>17933937
My first thought was that a bunch of satanist edgies tried to open the gates of hell, and then at the end burned all to clean the place. I'm not saying this is serious business, but finding that kind of stuff in such place is amusing.
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>>17933962
Yeah, I'm the dickhead. Not the people talking about killing animals they get from the pet store.
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>>17934116
Do you get the point of this thread? This thread os about summoning. Summoning is i volved with ritual styled upon rituals of, well, primitive people, rituals involving animal sacrifice. What do you suggest maybe jacking off for this instead, or fucking leaving cereal or "spreading a sigil"? Sorry, but lets be serious about summoning, because i do hate the RP about spreading aigils or some other bullshit.
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>>17934172
You're the worst RPer here.

This thread was good when it was lead by AMS. Then all you faggot roleplayers came in and took it over and brought your edgelord animal sacrifice bullshit with you. Fuck you.
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>>17934193
> This thread was good when it was lead by AMS.

Relax. I'm just celebrating my new job with a couple days off. The job starts tomorrow, and I'll be coding with one hand and summoning with the other.
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>>17932683
I'm pretty sure evoking anything Lovecraft wrote about is a terrible idea. The Elder Gods were insanely powerful and uncaring, and anyone who messed with them ended up getting mindfucked.
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>>17932641
If you want to evoke a love goddess, look around on the internet for one that you like and then find as much as you can about her. Shit like how she was worshipped, stories about her, preferred sacrifices, etc. After that, devise your own personal ritual based on what you studied about her.
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>when you're interested in this stuff, but people are too busy shitposting and fighting to actually talk about it

Anyone know a good place to read more about magick and spirituality? I'm not interested in la la new age useless feel good shit, and I don't expect to become a fucking god. Any good websites to check out where people talk about this stuff?
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I summon Ape
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WE ARE TRYING TO GET JITEJIFEJO TO COME BACK

>>17934346
>>17934346

Come help by typing his name, ask questions, and related shit to succubus and hell stuff.
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So I have been slowly introducing myself to the art Of conjuring, with varying degrees of success. I've gone full circle from trying an elaborate ritual where not a damn thing happened, to more of a mindful, meditative approach which I've had the most success with.
I first decided which entity I wanted to summon and decided on pic related because she's my birth demon, because I heard it was easier to establish a connection. Then I pulled up a copy of her sigil on my laptop, or phone depending on if I'm at home or out and need a quick get together. I then meditate, in a dark room, no distractions etc. measured breathing in the nose out the mouth. I usually sit cross legged on the floor with the sigil displayed infront of me. The first time I summoned her I felt an itching sensation on my forehead where my 3rd eye is supposed to be, followed by a pleasant sensation of something almost bulging out of my skull like a horn where the eye is. I had the residual feeling in my forehand for several days after. I'm at work currently and decided to try again. Pulled
Her sigil up on my phone, turned off the lights and got into my meditative state. Once I was completely relaxed I would
Inhale, and on the exhale in my mind say 'Crocell I summon you' after the third time there was an electric flash of light in the periphery of
My vision. I asked for help opening
The doors of consciousness so I could
Foster a better relationship with her and make communication easier. In my mind in envisioned my hands reaching for my forehead and tearing open the skin to reveal my third eye. As payment I promised to post this and pic related, and to jerk off and spill my seed in tribute. Oh also during the above proceedings, once I saw the flash of
Light I got a fucking diamond boner without even realizing it was happening, feels
Pretty fucking good guys, I'm
Convince it's real
Now.
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>>17934446
That's fucking good stuff anon, I'm glad.

Could you help us out in the Jimbo thread over here, post your experience and his name (jitejifejo) and he might comment on it.

>>17934346 →

As for a personal question, how long have you been meditating?
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>>17934454
You got it friend. I've been meditating on and off for about 7 months. Initially had some pretty strong experiences and actually stopped because I was freaked out. Only started up again in the last month for summoning etc.
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>>17934477
Thank you! Hopefully he comes back.

I've been doing some looking into summoning the demons of the Lesser Key of Solomon, apparently King Solomon had a ring with the symbol of God on it, a pentagram, lent to him by Archangel Michael. I'll post the full story in the other thread probably, but TLDR he uses the king of demons to build shit. Pretty dope desu.

I might try for a summoning of Sallos soon.
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What do you mean.
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>>17934495
I'm super interested in learning more. Tis experience literally opened a whole
New door of understanding for me
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How do I develop my ability to see/hear spirits? I'm tired of talking to a wall.
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>>17934666
Meditation, practice visualization techniques, look for ways to heighten your senses.
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>>17934666
In addition to what the other guy said, try to give the spirit a way to manifest physically, like a black mirror or smoke.
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Just called on Sallos to help me with something on the morrow.
Will post back about it if it works out.
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>>17933603
>"DONT HARM ANOTHER LIVING THING FOR YOUR OWN EGO"
>probably eats meat/dairy and doesn't give a shit about the mass murder of animals every day
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>>17934736
I'm a quasi-vegan and even I understand the purpose of ritual sacrifice, don't get too upset with these young people... Their liberal education and the complete disarming of their logical reasoning skills has led to highly emotional irrational man-children.
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>Skimming through stuff
>Demon that most coincides with my time of birth is Decarabia
>Father does a lot of herbalism
>Mother is a jeweler
>Have had a peculiar relationship with birds as long as I can remember

Huh, might look more into this
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>>17932170
raped repeatedly by a neighbor, did permanent physical damage.over several months time. NO ONE had a clue and I was too afraid to talk. hid the blood as best I could and never got caught.
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>>17932941
Blood bonds are very difficult to break, but it CAN be done. problem is once that bond is established, control is lost.
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>>17933362
>>17933529
Well I was thinking more of the act of killing a living creature in the spirits honor more than being like hey I brought you a dead rat (although I'm very happy and flattered when my cat does that). My feelings were more of a "words are cheap" kind of thing.
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>>17935562
Sorry to double post but I'm just kind of trying to clarify concepts here. Is an offering really synonymous with a sacrifice, as in incurring a personal symbolic cost?

The way I'm thinking about it here is going through the effort of procuring something alive to personally kill in a ritual (which is a symbolically charged act most humans wouldn't do or approve of) to honor a powerful being and respectfully request its attention and assistance. That, or pricking my hand and bleeding it over something just resonates with me more than verbal flattery or leaving some food out (I'm not saying those things can't be meaningful, but the way I look at it might be a problem).
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>>17935492
So what powers did it grant? Did you ever hear from the spirit again?
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Should I try summon Satan? What will the consequences be?
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>>17934736
I only eat chicken, no dairy, and I'm conflicted about that as well.

But eating meat for food is still shitloads better than edgelord rituals in you mom's basement, you stupid pieces of shit.
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>>17934273
Well yeah, but there is a heirarchy that includes beings low enough to have dealings with lesser beings, and nearly discernible goals and intrests, the outer gods are waaaay up there
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>>17934746
I'm almost definitely older than you are. The "irrational man children" are the ones killing animals because they think they can summon demons.
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>>17933865

short answer - bad luck and misfortune. There's a history of stuff I won't go into, but at some point I came to believe there was a demon messing my life up , making me curse God therefore giving more power to Satan.

I did attend church and read the bible for a period of around 7-8 months. even attended youth awareness programs. the pastor left after 25 years and the new people selected to come in didn't work out and the transition saw a lot of people leave. haha of course this happens within 1 month of me attending...coincidence maybe?

Anyway I'll continue my research....
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>>17934369
I sincerely douby jitejifejo is gonna pop up in another thread if ever again, shame cuz it it was real he was a cool demon, if fake he was a par RPer
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>>17934788
I like the one who makes you understand the barks of the dogs and similar thing. To me is a very interesting thing, but it sounds like it have a trick for sure.
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>>17929802
Hey guys, I could really use some help.

So I'm really not experienced In this sort of thing. I meditate some (mostly at night) and keep to myself for the most part. I've never gone out of my way to talk to any astral beings or demons but when I go into a deep meditation sometimes something starts talking to me. When I'm in a meditative state, I can see things very clearly, but as soon as I emerge from it details gradually fade away and I immediately become exhausted. Last night I was meditating as per usual and heard several voices talking to me. I live with only one other person and they swore up and down they didn't say a word. The voices talked to me about my life and retold my entire life up until where I am today ( it obviously wasn't very detailed). They started moving on to stuff that I didn't recognize but they kept talking about me. I freaked out and snapped out of my meditation. When I opened my eyes I felt all buzzy.

What the actual fuck just happened? Was this some paranoia induced delusion? Or is some magicy shit going on? I haven't done any drugs recently and I drink very sparsely. I'm kinda scared about meditating again. So what just happened and why?
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About animal sacrifice

In early ages, animal sacrifice only happened due to people wanting to keep their animals alive for dairy when there was a meat/ food shortage.
> You can get supply more food with dairy. You are wrong
Shut up. Cows didn't supply as much as dairy back then. The owner could only supply his daily comsumption but that would mean food for years but only for his owner. Sacrificing that animal meant there would more food than the owner could use. And meat was to consumed immediately for health reasons back then. Storing meat was dangerous and risky. Thus the general public would get their hands on food.

Bread and animals were similar sacrifices. Sacrificing your cow by your own will would mean a higher sacrifice only because it was a constant supply of food, but it was equal to burning your crops for example. Actually burning your crops spoiled both your food and the land, so I would say it was even a bigger sacrifice.
Right now, it doesn't mean shit. Food is available everywhere. Even if a demon asks for meat sacrifice, it doesn't matter if you buy some packaged thing or order some fucking kfc.

If you bake some pie yourself, that sacrifice will be more valuable. Cook your favorite food. Don't save a plate for yourself and have some self restraint to not eat it. You cooked that whole dish or pie for the sacrifice, you are not getting a piece out of it

And don't be retarted
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>>17936919
What else do demons want outside of food, wine and blood? Can I leave something like a cup of milk or something?
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>>17936948
Something valuable to you, mostly requires your time above all things nowadays.
So it is either your time or money. You get that milk in exchange for your money so it is a valid sacrifice. But baking a pie is probably a better because you sacrifice both your time and your money. Making some art should be the same

Your blood is a valid sacrifice because it is a symbolism that you are sacrificing a part of yourself. Traditionally wine was a symbolism for blood and bread for flesh.
A sacrifice can be anything.
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Which spirit should I summon if I want to win the lottery?
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Has anyone tried evoking Ishtar or Astarte?
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>>17936966
So theoretically if I make a render of my visions of Vine then he would like me more?

I'm already working on it anyway to illustrate what I saw to my friend who was working with me during the evocation.
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>>17936948
>What else do demons want outside of food, wine and blood?

It's a secret, rather well known, but the kids you're talking to don't know it.
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>Friend summons Kr'thun'ku'lese
>Friend wants to sleep better
>He drinks a of Nyquil after preforming the summoning
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Does having something naturally linked to your soul count as summoning?
I can give some details if you want, but up until now, I've qualifying him as a ghost.
Which sounds like the most plausible thing I've seen so far, but I somewhat fear I may be wrong.
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Other than the m&m guy, does anyone have any experience with Gusion? Does he have any preference for offerings?

I feel naturally drawn to him so I want to try summoning.
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My boyfriend is going to try and summon Mammon but doesn't have incense or a burner, what can they use instead? Has anyone tried summoning Mammon before?
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>>17938243
Black mirror or something similar.
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>>17938321
He doesn't have that either
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>>17938330
You can make one. This is from a few threads ago.

1.) Get a picture frame with a glass front
2.) Get some black spraypaint
3.) Spray the living shit out of one side of the glass
4.) Leave it dry, then spray it again. Keep doing this until you can hold it up to a light and none gets through
5.) Spray the backing cardboard while you're at it
6.) When it's all dry, put the glass in the frame with the sprayed side inwards

If you don't have black spray paint then you might as well try to find some incense while you are at it. Also check online
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how do i help grant a fairy physical form?
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>>17932941
For what it's worth, the only time I've ever had to use blood in evocation was when I was making a very long-term pact.

>>17933362
This seems to be more in line with what I have experienced.

>>17935510
Fuck.

>>17935604
I went into this with the same mindset and it bit me in the ass. The Spirits are really a lot more interested in the intensity of your experience of the offering than they are in what the offering actually is. This is why I offer specific experiences to spirits - I'm going swimming with Forneus as soon as the weather warms up.

>>17935974
What if we can summon demons?

>>17936867
Sounds like you made contact with something. You should try the sticky and see what happens.

>>17937602
Oh, look, another messenger of the Order of Vague Condescension! Observe his technique, children, see how he feels superior while proving nothing?
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>>17938488
Rats, forgot my trip.
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Kek all you retards are going to hell
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How do you summon if your floor is carpet?
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>>17935656
I am basically off limits to all dark entity's. not allowed to fuck with me. people around me on the other hand, there is ALWAYS a catch.
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>>17938488

>Oh, look, another messenger of the Order of Vague Condescension! Observe his technique, children, see how he feels superior while proving nothing?

Ohh you got burned son!
>>17937602

but yeah its true why preach about being all knowing if you're not gonna share anything, just shut up and leave the thread and let us "kids" learn more about this
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>>17938607
kek! you're coming along the ride btw... just for looking at this thread, you are committing sin by looking at these "demonic things" didn't your god told you not to look at these things? doesn't it mention it in that bible of yours? now run along.
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>>17938488
I don't care if you think you can summon demons, just leave other living things out of it. They aren't here for you to sacrifice in your bullshit edgelord rituals. Chop off one of your own fucking fingers if you need to prove to a demon that you can sacrifice something.
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few months ago an /x/ anon made a megaupload library titled "the temple of solomon the king" with several gigabytes(pic related: i downlaoded it few months ago and was 25 GB) of occult/magic books in every subfield.

does anyone still have the link? i know the guy updated regularly and wanted to have the most complete online repository of rare and common occult books.
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>>17937488
>Evoking gods
Eh, In theory you don't work with gods like that. At least not with some of them.
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>>17939615
It shouldn't be that hard if I wanted to, They do have their own seals
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Summoning with no idea what you are doing is harmless. Summoning with half an idea what you're doing is incredibly dangerous.


Who are you? Why are you summoning who you are summoning? What do you think you are getting in return? There is a currency to this. There are deals/oaths being struck around symbols that you are unaware of. The cost of breaking promises you dont even know you made is very very high.
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>>17939596
https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ
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>>17932760
Paimon is a no nonsense kinda guy. Very direct. He expects a lot for relatively little, though, and he's not very good conversation. Why did you pick him as a mentor?
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>>17939657

It's only dangerous if you let it have power over you.
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>>17939076
>Edgelord

Dude just go be a lame little pussy somewhere else then.
No one gives a shit.
We're gonna do our thing regardless.
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>>17939754
Are you implying that it ever doesn't?
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>>17939754
Force is precisely what they are.
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>>17939745
thanks anon.
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my scepticism makes me want to kill myself, i have these weird sensations in my forehead and frequent sleep paralysis with partial projection, but i have had no genuine paranormal experience.
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>>17934446
did you use any protection?
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>>17939761

There is nothing to have power over anything. I am that which I summon. As within, so without.
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>>17939760
No, fuck you, puss.
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Ok. I had a little bit of a freaky incident a few weeks ago. I was out camping with my friends and we had brought along some occult stuff for shits and gigs. My friend Matt is obsessed with Cthulhu and has like 5 copies of the necronomicon at his house locked in his basement (don't ask me why, he's just weird like that.) Anyways, we all bring some stuff with us. I brought a couple black candles, Matt brought one of his necronomicon's, and one of my other pals brought salt and chalk. The night we were out, we decided to do a little ritual. I didn't expect anything. We set up a chalk pentagram and enscribed the Cthulu words repeatedly on the outside of it. We lit black candles at the points of the pentagram and put a ring of salt around the entire thing. In the center we lit a small driftwood fire (cause it burns green and looks badass with hell.) Matt took his necronomicon out and started chanting the Cthulu words (ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn for those who don't know them.) we did this for about 3 minutes before Matt decided to toss the necronomicon into the fire (cause fuck it and it was dramatic.) after that, we decided to let the fire and candles burn out on their own and headed back to our tents to grab a few beers. Matt had just gone to open his tent when he passed out all of the sudden. He hadn't even touched his beer yet so he couldn't have passed out from that. Maybe it was cause he was just tired? It was around 12 pm so maybe But most people don't just pass out for no reason right? We let him sleep it off until the morning. The next morning he woke up and we asked him about it. However, he said he didn't remember any of last night. He didn't even believe it until we showed him the remains of the pentagram. So /sum/, what do u think? Did Matt actually contact something? Or is this just some freak series of coincidences?
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>>17939840
not in a physical sense, like I didn't draw a circle and triangle etc. I had tried an elaborate ritual before with all that stuff and nothing happened. But I truly think that reality shaping is a thing, and I shaped my reality to not allow an entity to harm me in any way. I try to be respectful and forthcoming when dealing with them, so far so good. I'm not saying all the physical protections aren't needed, I just don't subscribe to that line of thinking based on my own experiences.
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>>17940270
Sounds good, do they actually respond to your request in your mind? or is it more like a visualisation, where you make a request and a deal and then it's done, how quickly do you get results? sorry for asking too many questions.
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>>17929802
I've read the sticky; is anything different when trying to summon a Chinese deity?
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>>17940278
Well desu I'm still pretty new at all this. I've gotten visual cues while meditating, as well as physical sensations. SO far I haven't heard voices, but that would be cool as fuck. The only like, concrete request I've made so far was for help opening my perception to make communication easier, which it seems is working. Results almost immediately. I have been meditating off and on for about a year, but I stopped a while back because I had some really intense experiences and it freaked me out, would be happy to share.
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>>17940549
lol it added desu to my post, weird.
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desu all you need to do to summon anything is chant this

O dii, vos amo, donate mentulas mihi magnas et in cavernam meam eas inserite, ut mihi bene placeant.
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>>17940549
Share senpai
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>>17940666
So my dad is heavy into eastern religious practices, even though he's a muslim, go figure. He's been meditating and doing yoga since I was a small small child, so I grew up practicing meditation as a kid but it was always super boring to me so I kinda stopped for years, but the seed was planted from a young age that meditation is a beneficial practice.

About a year ago I decided to try meditation for fun, just to see if any of the hoodoo shit I read about it was real. So I looked up some guided meditation info and decided to try a past life regression. I went step by step and did what I was supposed to do, ie; visualize a grassy hill, then imagine you are zooming up into the air, into space far away etc. then come back, with the idea being when you come back you see a former life.

So as soon as I started the 'return trip' part of the process I felt a violent spinning and jerking in my perception, like I was getting thrown around. I was inside a plane that was spinning out of control. I had my fingers in a kind of floor grating or something trying to hold on, but was thrown out of the plane through a huge hole in the side. I saw myself falling through the sky with debris and stuff around me, I was looking up at the shattered frame of a WW2 style bomber, (Lancaster I think) tear itself apart in mid air, it was on fire, flack explosions going off and tons of other planes flying in formation. It was like one of those falling dreams where i fell for a while and before I hit the ground I snapped back to the present, but there was a date kind of stuck in my head for days after. When I looked it up online I found out there was one of the first massive daytime bombing raids of Germany that took place on the day and shit loads of British airmen were killed, and lots of planes lost, it was a total failure.

Anyway, thats one of a few that scared me off of meditation for a while.
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>>17940549
WTF that pun. Lost it.
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Would it be acceptable to, instead of drawing the circle and the triangle and other symbols on the floor with chalk, to use masking tape instead, and inscribe the names directly onto the tape?
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>>17940823
Yes
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>>17932941

I pledged my blood when I was a 13 year old virgin to "any all dark Lords" so that I could seduce and claim anyone. (I carved sigils into myself that are still visible 10 years later.) Since then I've been molested and raped by family members and strangers during ten year period and I experience sexual hysteria if I do not have intercourse at least once a day. I do not recommend this action.

Any advice on how to reverse this?
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Can I have some advice for getting increased intelligence, deities to summon, appropriate offerings/sacrifices etc
By increased intelligence I am refering to extreme high-genius level intellect.
What would I hypothetically get in return for my soul?
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>>17940823
you can use a canvas, or silk or other fabrics... While you respect the design and keep the circles closed everything should work.
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>>17940957
For extreme high-genius level intellect you would probably have to consult Rofocale. Practice meditation and evoking lower-tier spirits for some experience. I'm not sure about the price but a long-term pact should be expected.
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>>17940874
>Any advice on how to reverse this?

Nope. You're fucked. Literally.
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>want to summon demon to help make me live out one of my sexual fetishes
>Don't know about any demons that relate to fertility.
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Alright what should I give Orobas tonight for answering some questions?
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>>17941483

Have the questions already been asked and answered, or are you planning to ask tonight?
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Do you need circles for invocations from Ancient Egypt and Greek as well?
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>>17941513

I would.

Really, many of the Goetics are just older gods from other cultures anyways.
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>>17941512
I'm going to summon at 10 during the hour of jupiter.

Currently the plan is a cup of wine as a gift.
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>>17941518

Yeah, I figured so most basic books on ritual recommend circle. I figured invocation for Egyptian should use one since it's more ritual like but I wasn't sure on Greek as that's closer catholic praying from what I understand.

Salt best for circle?
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>>17940217
I don't believe in coincidence. Something might've happened, he could have faked. I don't know man.
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>>17940874
Find a Grand Magus, they would be able to help, but that help wont come cheap.I've done it, its risky as hell and the person needs to be with me so that rules me out.The reason that it is NOT cheap is there is a cost that the bond breaker must pay. And no, i will NOT put that kind of spell out on the internet for any fool to attempt.
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What would happen if I evoked Clauneck?
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>>17942055

Probably, Clauneck would appear before you.
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>>17930103
but how do summon an gf
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>>17942259
Would he give me the winning lottery numbers?
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>>17942327
How much are you worth?
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>>17942352
If bank balance is the same as worth I'm worth 460 bucks
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>>17932253
>the 19th
Well, hopefully you see this.
Is there any particular reason why you called on Hekate for her assistance with that situation?
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>>17938672
Get a large plywood plank or flip over linoleum perhaps?
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>>17942394
Here, check this out if you haven't already.
http://palomayombepnw.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-goetic-daemon-clauneck-price-of.html
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Has anyone here worked with Jake Stratton-Kent's material? Specifically Geosophia: The Argo of Magic?
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>>17929802
Stupid question: When you're offering something to a spirit following this guide, would you leave it in the triangle?
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What gods do you lads invoke, and which names do you inscribe around your circle?
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>>17929802
Alright. I'm interested in this stuff now. I'm gonna try going into a deep meditation tonight and see if I can make contact with anything. Advice?
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>>17942992
I'm gonna use this image as a focus. Is this connected with any other power besides those in Jewish culture that I should know about? I'm Jewish so it doesn't seem right to be praying to something other than what I believe is God. How will this focus impact my chances of making contact?
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Can an evocation be done with two people both asking for the same thing? How about each asking for their own desire? Or is this strictly a solitary practice?
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>>17939745
>>17939596
>https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

I still update, but haven't lately, there should be a list of new titles in the "update(s)" folder.
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>>17944355
Also any number of board archives.
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>>17943003
>this nigga gonna try'n summon god

jewbro, the torah prohibits this sort of shit.
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>>17930120
Kek, I was looking for this.
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So I just performed my first summoning.

I followed the guide in the sticky, with a few minor additions and embellishments, just for my own peace of mind.

I summoned Aratron, one of the Olympic Spirits. Said to provide familiars and teach alchemy, magic and medicine.

I had to repeat the invocation three full times, and did not get a definite sign of presence. I followed the advice in the sticky, and just moved on to the welcome. At that point, I felt a little more like I was actually conversing with a present spirit.

I asked Aratron to teach me, and work with me to improve my magical abilities. I asked him to give me a visible sign of improvement and progress within one month.

In return, I promised to spread his name, inform others about him, to spread his sigil around, and to affix the sigil I used to summon him in my book. I also promised to occasionally make small offerings to him. I hadn't planned on making that last bit a part of my bargain, and I'm wondering if I didn't get a little bit hoodwinked there.

Anyways, I finished the ritual, and now I'm here. I don't feel any particular way yet, but shit, it's my first time and who knows if I even really got in contact with anything.

I'll update as time goes by, and let you now if there are any results.
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>>17946483
Do what you promised or you WILL realise the consequences, please don't screw up.
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>>17946483
>>17930106
>>17929827
>>17932024
>>17932760
>>17934446
Y'all niggas wanna email me at [email protected] wanna get you into a Discord with more information to teach and maybe you could teach us too
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I'm going to try evoking Furcas again tonight, but I don't have any candles (used them all last time). Is just incense fine or should I not bother?
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>>17931917
I emailed him a few days back, still no response. I like to take things like this slow though so no worries.

I plan on summoning Orobas and making a deal for the use of his spirit lie detector, and then once I'm done with Uni, summoning a quarinah (basically arabian succubus) for occult teaching and the succ. After that I plan on making deals with most of the goetic spirits for their various blessings.

[spoiler] I hope he gets back to me soon. [/sploiler]
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>>17947463
Well if you're interested in long term contact with spirits, it's a good idea to develop your astral senses so that you can easily communicate.
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>>17947701
Trust me, I definitely have been. I've been meditating off-and-on since may 2015, but only started doing it near-daily about two months ago. I understand the importance of meditation and your third eye and I'll make sure it's open before I summon.
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Think I'm going to summon dantalion tonight, brothers.
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guys im in need of the demon natal chart and some info howto, would anyone be so nice?
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So, /sum/, I've decided that I am going to live forever. I refuse to die, therefore I will not. However, I'd like to hedge my bets, so to speak. While I have determined that my death is an event that will never come to pass, it never hurts to have backup plans.

I'd like insurance, for whatever it is worth. My question is, is there a "demon" or what have you that can make sure I never die? Or is that something that is beyond them?
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>>17948732
>My question is, is there a "demon" or what have you that can make sure I never die?
No, but there are demons that rule Alchemy and help you sort out your shit.
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>>17932009
How can you know that certain cases of psychosis has anything to do with other entities or not? Psychosis is just a label put on different cases which may have completely different causes.
But obviously having a mental breakdown is not as desirable as having control over your magickal experiences.
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>>17930306
Food, wine.
You could also give blood or semen but that creates a bond between you and the entity so it's not always what you would want.
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Can't be assed to read the whole thread,but sorry if this has already been posted.

>esotericarchives.com

I recently got an interest in this stuff and this is a really good start. Just printed off Le Grand Grimoire for a read.
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>>17948850
Thanks for sharing. There is also a really neat library here, check it out
https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ
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>>17948886
This is awesome,thank you.
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>>17948886
>>17948915

http://pastebin.com/T8fgbHgr
http://hermetic.com/
http://english.grimoar.cz/?Loc=idx&Lng=2

The mega the other anon posted is a fucking treasure trove, but here are some further sources and databases. Between those links, and the mega, we've got a metric fuckton of resources here.
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Summoned Dantalion. Nothing happened. You guys are full of shit.
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>>17950857
Did you sell your soul for a pack of gum?
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>look at how to guide
>still using Jewish connotation
>nothing on spoof detecting
>using Key of Solomon as a reference

Is this a thread on how to embarrass yourself?
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Hi everyone, just wanted to post an update, I'm the guy higher in the thread that summoned Crocell a few days ago successfully. Since then I've continued to do summons every day, which have mostly been meditation sessions where I try to solidify my connection. Since I started things have been happening in my life, work has done a complete 180, I'm suddenly very successful in my line of work, to the point that higher ups are taking notice. Also, I've had some items I was trying to sell in CL, and was having no success, only getting scammer responses. In the last 2 days I got 5 all cash offers within driving distance. The strange thing is I didn't specifically ask for these things to happen, but they were both low level subconscious stressors I've had for a while now. Is there any precedence for a summoned demon to help in other aspects of your life aside from what you specifically ask for? Long story short, things are going great, and I'm going to continue doing this for as long as I can. Thanks for exposing me to this stuff x, I think the key point is I'm not sitting back and hoping that shit happens for me anymore, I'm being proactive and trying to effect my own reality. So far so good.
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>>17930120
thought it sounded familiar
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>>17938364
I feel like thats the cheapest, low quality way to do it with little semblance to an actual mirror.
A sheet or face of onyx, or deep black metal placed behind glass would be far closer to a black mirror.
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>>17951243
It works fine for me. Quit being a faggot.
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Would trying to evoke Bacchus be a good idea? I've heard he has quite the jovial, party-centric spirit which could help in social situations.
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>>17951109
Would you attest that mindful meditation gets you better results? I've heard people swear the same thing.What exactly do you do when you try to solidify your connection?
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>>17934446
It sounds like you just opened your brow chakra
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Has anyone had experiencing with evoking Astaroth?
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>>17951619
I would Say that In my experience that is the case. I tried summoning with an elaborate ritual, and not a damn thing happened. I'm of the opinion that wether you are simply meditating, or going through the typical 'left hand path' type steps, they are both means to the same end. I'm not saying one is right and the other is wrong, this is just what worked for me. I just get into a good meditative state, and empty my mind, focus solely on my breathing and the rest comes naturally, almost like intuition. So far the only real request I've made is for a stronger connection to the entity I'm summoning, but like I mentioned other good stuff is happening as a result.

>>17951722

You might be right, but would that also allow me to subtly effect my reality? Like I mentioned in my other post, things have been happening for me in my life that are almost undeniable. Either some entity is helping me out, or I'm influencing the world around me for my own benefit. Either way it's pretty awesome.
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>>17951243
yeah dude don't be a dick... A black mirror is a black mirror no matter of what material is made of as long as it serves its purpose. You don't need to be an asshole about it.
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>>17951761
She's my personal guardian and i always invoke her, got any questions?
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>>17934342
Why?

>>17948886
>>17948915
You're welcome ;^)

>>17949018
I already dug out the best of grimoar, and my mega is now twice it's size with about 5k individual files.

>>17951833
Black Mirror's a relatively modern convention. If you thumb through the old MSS for Lemegeton, they describe smoke reading, hence the brazier.
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>>17951833
If people are allowed to be picky about the quality of the circles they make, I'm allowed to be picky about the quality of ingredients going into a black mirror.
Don ' t disrespect me.
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>>17952090
A general rundown would be nice. What is she like and how did you "find" her? What realm does she exist in and what is her view on people evoking her?
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>>17952161
Dee used Aztec obsidian.

>>17952164
He better be fine with it, I just evoked Az'terah a handful of days ago, will do so again shortly.
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>>17952167
I'm fine with a rundown
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>>17952161
Be picky about it, but just remember that reading entrails is another method of divination that works for people and there's no pomp at all in that.
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>>17952172
Of what, Lemegeton or what I do?

Pic(s) related are the oration I use for that particular godform.
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>>17952182
A rundown of what you do and maybe what people have asked from them
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>>17952161
lol I'm in no way disrespecting you bruh. Just saying if it doesn't affect you then why criticize, instead you could just advice the person there is better methods to making a mirror. Some people don't have as much money as you or others here. So they get what they can take.
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>>17952182
Pic continued.

>>17952177
>Haruspex was not practiced with pomp
https://web.eecs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/Har.html

Nice self-similar numerals.

>>17952186
The oration listed plus pic related is exactly how I approach the godform at the moment. I don't think I screwed with the oration too much in my black leatherette.

For a description of Astaroth the spirit, see Lemegeton:
>http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/goetia.htm
>ctrl+f Astaroth
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>>17952191
Money should be no object.
Quality is of the highest importance.
Don' t Disrespect me , Dude.
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>>17952164
>A general rundown would be nice. What is she like and how did you "find" her? What realm does she exist in and what is her view on people evoking her?

She's very loving caring and comforting to me, but i've heard she is a great warrior to our enemies, she protects and helps me without me even needing to ask her sometimes. I'm unsure on how long i've known her but she discerned to me the age of my soul and how long i've been on her side in the spiritual war, in this life she's been with me even before i dedicated to Lucifer and has shown me the future 10+ years in advance, she exists on the same planes you and me do, both the physical and the astral. When it comes to evoking i asked her what she thought about ceremonial magicians and people from these threads when it comes to evoking with methods we view as disrespectful, such as the lbrp, the solomonic circle and triangle and also using the hexagram, saying that she can help in times of need but disrespect like that is dearly payed. Nothing will protect you from the true gods, if you want to meet her show your trust in her by INVOKING her
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>>17952205
what are you gonna do?
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>>17952256
Not him but for him to curse you it's enough to focus at the message you sent, people can do very detailed readings if you do as much as post a dot, people who fuck around with the occult often end dead or worse
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>>17952262
alright sounds fun, go ahead and curse me :)
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>>17952193
Thank you.

Leave it to Rome to add flair to everything. I wouldn't want to get festive clothing bloodied personally.
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>>17952262
>Not him but for him to curse you it's enough to focus at the message you sent, people can do very detailed readings if you do as much as post a dot, people who fuck around with the occult often end dead or worse
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>>17952262
fuck off rp faggot
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>>17952264
>>17952277
>>17952274
Laugh all you want neckbeards, plenty examples of people who did the same and ended up in mental institutions
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>>17952262
aww that's cute jimmy now run along to bed now mommy has some warm milk for you
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Say one sees heavyish smoke flowing towards them during a dedication ritual. The smoke clears away when focusing the eyes, but returns as soon as they stop. Any thoughts on this?
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>>17952290
I've known more occultists who have psych degrees than have been to the ward.
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>>17952299
Sounds like basic fluid dynamics, mate.

I get helices, and all sorts of flow patterns.
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>>17952290
kek! it doesn't work like that ya little dickmuffin.
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>>17952262
Fuck No I'm not gonna curse him , what is this, 4th grade?
I ' m just requesting respect. Quality assurance.
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>>17952308
It wasn't the flowing geometric shapes like it usually is, but a fog/smoke. I haven't seen that before when unfocusing.
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>>17952332
A single motion or breath will disturb smoke flow.
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>>17952262
>people who fuck around with the occult often end dead or worse
lyl
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>>17952340
It was definitely just in my vision. I had a ball of herbs burning, but the smoke viscosity wasn't nearly as thick and went with the wind.

I was asking because I wanted to know if other people had the experience during ritual though and if it had signifigance, not really for the scientific explanation though since I was pretty sure it wasn't actually there for anyone else to see.
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>>17952362
Interesting.

Are you an apt smoke-reader? It could be a nearness to the "veil" of reality, as referenced in the Sign of the Rending of the Veil. Could be a stage of manifestation if you're pretty new and not sure what to look out for.

See if you can get it into "form" next time.
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>>17952369
Reading smoke isn't something I've tried yet in a serious way. I tried to stay in the state of semi unfocused because it would get thicker and more surreal, but kept focusing my eyes again unintentionally. My mind felt a little like cotton candy and the best way to describe trying to stay unfocused is that it was like having a word on the tip of your tongue and not able to remember it.
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>>17952319
>Quality assurance.
kek!
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Having some doubts about this topic, may i ask somebody here about it?

1~I'm really interested in summonig, but as much as I try, i can't truly believe in all this. I wanna believe, don't misunderstand me: I read the guide in the sticky and i can't help believing that everything is just...impossible. I mean, "impossible" talking from a logical point of view. I wanna fuck off scientific tought and all that, be able to ignore that part of me that says "don't waste your time in this bullshit", but i can't help it. That's what i feel truly inside, altough i want to believe. Would you recommend me to try summoning or it's worthless? Any other help?

2~english is not my native language, should I translate the speeches to mine or just say them in english? I mean: is it necessary to strictly respect every word, or can I make little changes?
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>>17952407
I know that feel.
Familiar, like something you dreamed but can't quite remember.

Just keep working the path, man.

>>17952415
>i can't truly believe in all this
The spirits give zero fucks if you believe in them or not. Belief isn't a component here. See "Medical Anthropology and the Problem of Belief".

Meanwhile, the spirits, very much so, believe in you.

>logic
I can make just as many truth tables in defense of evokation as I can derascinating it.

>ESL speaker
Depends on your native tongue. The vast majority of this material is in various Western Euro languages, though I'm not familiar via who or which translations are best.

In some cases Spanish speakers are better off than us. They've had Tantraloka and certain necromantic materials while English speakers are only now getting translations of the stuff.
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>>17952423
I'm>>17952415
Thank you, will be looking forward reading it.
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>>17952262
>>17952205
>>17952319

Hi samefag
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>>17930103
idiot don't you know baphomet was already summoned on 9/11
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If you are using a scrying mirror in the triangle to try to "see" the spirit, where does the demon's seal go?
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>>17939751
Wow 4 days late, Sorry anyway hope you see this

I see him as being Charismatic, I've researched him as being a Mentor of influencing others. Also i read about him having a sense of Humor

After i summoned him asking for a familiar i did hear a soft cartoonish almost cute voice while i was falling asleep and got a burnt in image of a creature laying on my bed. I might of been careless on my choosing but with all the contradictory information i thought i might as well see for myself, The other one i would of wanted to choose is King Belial for a military/warrior career but i researched him as being a real tight ass that would fuck me up if i make a small wrong move, and after all the experience with king paimon was positive and out of this world

>>17946620
Emailing you now.
>>
What does /sum/ think about chaos magick?
I've designed my own sigils and experienced benefits from the castings.
I want to get deeper into invocations, evocations, or any kind of summoning, but I'm not sure I have the stability or power right now.
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>>17953338
Thanks for the update. I've got a few questions if you don't mind answering.

Why did you ask for a familiar? Are you able to describe how the creature looks like? Can you sense it around you at will? What's your "occult" background?
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which demon can make a person go crazy? one that fucks with people's emotions and psyche. Or a demon that can make people depressed..
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Any result regarding career/employment? Please share
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I had a weird dream where I was trying to scry in water. Do you guys know a good source to learn about this?
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>>17953925
Paimon binds a person to your will.

>>17953947
Bune definitely.
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>>17952423
>certain necromantic materials
Which ones?
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>>17953965
Have a gander through the Mega link in this thread.
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>>17953978
I have found Crystal Vision Through Crystal Gazing by Achad, seems good and I guess is the same principles.
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>>17953732

The main-main reason i requested a familiar is for divination via tarrot and help with other things in rituals

after the ritual upon falling asleep it was like my vision was moved from me looking down on my bed and seeing a white cat-rabbit looking creature on my bed. Not menacing at all

My occult background was basically for a year or so being taught magick by my cousin in celtic paganism tradition. I didn't believe in the "religious" side of things and decided to go my own way. i believe in deities but not gods if that makes sense, He joined the Black Forest Coven and wasn't allowed to teach anyone as an initiate or something like that and i didn't want to join the first "society" i came across if i didn't believe in their tradition

(and that caused a lot of drama, although thats for a different story)

why ask anon?
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>>17953732

As for sensing it since i've did this ritual i haven't tried to physically sense it around me (12 hour shift job that i've taken on for a bit to get money till i find a more stable job)

I've thought i've sensed pets crawl in bed or enter the room when they weren't and pets bark in random directions and "stare" at the wall when i enter the room

im thinking about doing a little something with him/her when i consecrate my tarrot, Im off tonight so i might meditate on them, I didn't even get their name
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>>17954134


Edit: Not ritual. Evocation

sorry lack of sleep
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>>17952423
Are you still here Ape? What do you think about this blog post? It's pretty interesting and makes me feel as if I have a lot to learn as a newbie.

http://palomayombepnw.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-goetic-daemon-clauneck-price-of.html
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>>17929827
>he was black as ebony
WE
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>>17930234
>I don't even
THIS, I literally can't
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FFs guys make a new thread
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>>17931661
Well i think you better pepper your Angus anon, did you even ask for anything?
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>>17930877
>wants a familiar that feeds on its owner's fear
>literally in its best interests for you to be as frightened as possible as often as possible

whatcouldgowrong.jpg
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Are there any demons that can control fertility and make people pregnant? Cause I want to do something akin to IRL Rosemary's Baby
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>>17952205
Shut the fuck up with this "don't disrespect me" bullshit. If you have the money for an obsidian mirror, then go buy one.
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Hey guys, I'm a complete novice and I have a question regarding my situation. I was told that the "spirits" want to work with me, and was recommended to practice summoning and mirror work. It seems this type of summoning is focused around specific entities, so how would I go about knowing about the spirits that want to work with me? What if they are not the same type of beings that are described here, is the summoning different? What mirror techniques are there? Is there a way just to interact with spirits that are already willing to interact with me?
Thanks for the help.
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>>17955915
Who told you that the spirits want to work with you? Did you not press them further to elaborate on which spirits wanted to work with you? Learn how to protect yourself or banish if you do not already know. Check the Mega link in this thread for some info on scrying. Meditation is the way to go if you wish to know who wants to contact you.
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>be me
>let's summon a demon
>Uvall bb let's go
>take a warm shower
>get dressed in nice black clothes
>pack my bag and begin my journey
>make my way up the mountain
>headphones in, blasting "Fly Away" by Lenny Kravitz on repeat
>make it to a nice clearing on the mountain
>sit a spell and rest up
>Feel calmed and good
>begin setting up my heresy
>create circle in the dirt and mud
>names of the gods outside it
>circle around that
>set up tape triangle
>candles at each corner, sigil and incense inside
>little to no wind
>try lighting a candle
>sudden gust of wind blows out the match
>wtf
>try again when there's no wind
>sudden gust blows out the match
>repeat x20 times for a whole matchbox
>wakemeupinside.mov
>Fuck it, we'll do it live
>sit in the circle and meditate
>can smell the incense without it being lit
>knew nothing but the sounds of nature
>sudden rush of energy
>Jump up and point wand at the circle
>"Uvall, my nigga answer the phone"
>no answer
>"For real man, pick up it's important"
>nothing
>"Fuck it I'll leave a voicemail"
>continue with the ceremony after the 3rd time
>suddenly my arms were heavy
>knees weak, psalms were sweaty
>Uvall's spaghetti
>"Uvall, humbly ask you to help me out, you've got a deadline in 2 months"
>"I'll invoke you while I eat fine meats, cheeses, and wines so you can enjoy stuff as payment if you pull through"
>"Will also spread your sigil online and at some physical places so everyone can see your greatness"
>Grab the Hexagram
>"I bind you to this contract by the Hexagram of Solomon and the authority of the Almighty"
>point wand at triangle
>"Now Uvall, peace out, don't fuck up and don't hurt me or my loved ones, I'm counting on you"
>ritual ended
>pack up my shit
>That Lenny Kravitz
>go home
>post about it in /sum/
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