What do you think about the Fibonacci sequence?

It's pretty

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It's a pattern.
There are many patterns like this.

>but this one is my pattern.

>>17886133
its beautiful

>>17886144
what other patterns do you know?

A great way thing to study and will help give insight into our fractal universe.

>>17886143
>>17886149
why?

>>17886165
cool, how?

>>17886173
Look up Fibonacci fractals, fractal patterns in our universe and that pic of a brain cell next to pic of universe and draw your own conclusions on what significance that these similarities and patterns hold and the practical implications of any truth that lies therein

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>>17886164
Fibonacci is simply a number consisting of two previous numbers.
This is the axiom.
1.1.2.3.5.8...

You can even do that yourself and find patterns.

You can look up the Vedic Square for example.

I've had some pictures of patterns like this but I don't seem to be able to find them.
So I'd start out with the vedic square if you're interested in stuff like this.

Tesla had some stuff to afaik.
Math is a great thing.

>>17886183
>that pic of a brain cell next to pic of universe
>draw your own conclusions on what significance that these similarities and patterns hold

lol
take any basic physics course and you'll find out that any similarities are purely due to laws governing minimum potential energy.

>>17886192
Well?
What else did you expect?

>>17886199
Nothing, but the way >>17886183 mentioned it it sounds like there's some overarching divine construction at work, or that it's some inexorable mystery that boggles the mind.

>>17886192
Which is what should be understood. Also the concept of the Fibonacci, the idea of taking the two most recent things and combining them two create a new unique value and then repeating infinitely is a beautiful thing to meditate on

>>17886204
My bad didn't mean to make it seem that way but wording it "study math and physics faggot" doesn't get people excite know what I mean dog

>>17886204
You see, what you did here is simply play with language.
The laws could just aswell be a divine construct, and it could be a mystery that boggles your mind.

But it doesn't. Because our society likes to make everything bland.
Come up with this 2000 years ago and you get some Bible type shit.

If you take it straight, nothing will ever boggle your mind.

>>17886185
nice, what are some other patterns like that?

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>>17886133
>>17886183 /this and >>17886185 this

>>17886204
As above so below

It's not pi
It's phi

>>17886144
kek

It is just fucking numbers, there's no deep value to it. I will never understand how people think PI or other numbers are key to solving universe's mysteries. THEY ARE JUST. FUCKING. NUMBERS.

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>>17886481
To you they are just fucking numbers.

>I will never understand
Because you say so.

>>17886491
That's a beautiful place, but what does it have to do with numbers?

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>>17886500
Either you see it or you don't.
Like I've posted earlier, look up vedic square for example.
Alot of architecture and art has been constructed by numbers.

>>17886391
>pic
Now you go off and look for yourself. Bring something back.

>>17886481
it's autism anon. 3deep5us sheeple

>>17886185
cool, it's a ponzi scheme

>>17886530
That too. Many things can be gotten out of it.
You can even calculate games with it.

Math tunes your piano, builds your car engine, produces medicine, builds houses.

But it's just numbers, right?

Math is a language. If you cant speak it it's clear why you don't understand.

It's like a man with an inability to speak chinese says it's just sounds.
That is really not smart at all people.

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>>17886572
This guy gets it.

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>>17886133
Since we're all sharing fractals and patterns I'd like to share my personal favorite: the Mandelbrot Set.

>>17886585
Upvote

>>17886572
>builds your car engine, produces medicine, builds houses.
But you need medicine, car engine, and bricks to build thigs like that, not Math.

>>17886622
Material things are the ingredients, math is the language of the recipe.

>>17886622
Are you retarded?

>>17886633
This.
Ofcourse you gonna need the material.
Just having flour, water and fire isn't gonna bake your bread.
Having the proper recipe will give you bread.
The quality of the recipe is equal to the quality of the bread.

It is so with everything.
Sure you can do much without math, just by feeling.
Having math as a support is gonna make things alot easier.
And if you want to share your recipe you're gonna need a language.

Musicians have a language which is a conversion of math.
To play an A Chord first you have to know what that even is. Math will bring you this if you choose to work with the original language.

Yes many people dismiss this because they think it is not necessary.
We can see the results of that.

Todays orchestral/piano music is almost pure math.

Just numbers, right? Ofcourse.
It's not just about the numbers, but about who uses the language.

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>>17886622
Try to live without math for a week.

(It'll be great. You can't spend money. You can't look at your speedometer. You really can't watch TV, since that needs mathematically designed circuits.)

Have fun

>>17886669

Literally impossible. The universe is math in and of itself, living without math would be death.

>>17886908
Can we refine this answer and say:
The recipe of this particular universe right here, right now can by explained by the language of mathematics.

It's an interesting thought, because obviously what the fibonacci sequence is, is an applied pattern which reveals another pattern, revealing another pattern ect..

You come up with the simple rule:
Every number must be the product of two previous numbers.
0,0,0,..
1,1,2,3,5,8,...

Donald Knuths Surreal numbers are pretty nifty aswell.
You write a bracket with two sets.

The Axioms:
1.)Every number corresponds to two sets of previously created numbers, such that no
member of the left set is greater than or equal to any member of the right set

2.)One number is less than or equal to another number if and only if no member of the
first number's left set is greater than or equal to the second number, and no member of the second
number's right set is less than or equal to the rst number

So it looks a bit like this:

0=< : >
1=<0: >
-1=< :0>
1/2=<0:1>

See here>>17886185

So we could say, that if one simple rule of applying numbers would be changed, our universe would change.
Therefore, if the law is in the application of the numbers, then the law can be known in numbers aswell as application.
Theoreticaly, ofcourse.
And so you come to the fibonnaci numbers and the observation of it in nature.

>>17886669
That episode always made me feel so weird as a kid.

[spoiler] And not a tingle in my pee pee weird either. [/spoiler]

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>>17886133
It's a pretty nice sequence, it's my main algorithm.

>>17886973
you seem to know a lot about this, go on

>>17887499
Well I really would not know how to go on at this point, because I don't know what you mean by "you seem to know alot about THIS".
What do you mean by "this"?

What I do is study patterns and abstract forms of mathematics. Playing with numbers and so on.
When you work as a cashier for example, as I do sometimes, you also work with numbers.
I myself think that such a kind of math is a derived form.
What I mean by that is, that you have a set, linear ruleset.
You get a rather arbitrary number and you add or subtract from that number with another arbitrary number to get a sum.
There is nothing fancy about this, as we all know from school.

So when I have time on my hands I look at the "behavior" of numbers when I apply different rules.
Rules like the fibonacci rule. You take a pattern and you will receive a pattern.
Look, a simple rule like "A number consisting of two previous numbers" gives you the golden ratio, which can be found everywhere in nature.
What does this tell us?

Last post I posted about Knuths "Surreal Numbers". Which was originaly John Conways idea.
I did so because this one can rather sweetly explain how we can get away from 0.
Otherwise if you do the fibonacci sequence you will be stuck on 0 forever. Creation will never happen.

In Knuths Book "Surreal Numbers", which is written in a dialog between two kids, it is written so that each day a certain set of numbers is created.
When the rules are well understood it is not difficult to see how we can get from nothing to 0, and from 0 to 1.
On Day 0 there are no numbers, only nothing, which is written thus < : >.
This value contradicts with the first rule in such a way, that in both sets there is the same value, namely nothing.
This creates the first number 0, which is in the book actually just a dot.
0 is here a number which is both infinitely smaller aswell as infinitely bigger than nothing.
This is the creation. From there on we get all the 1, -1, 1/2, -1/2, 2, -2, 1/4, -1/4, 3, -3..

>>17886192
that doesnt make it any less interesting and enigmatic.

>>17886215
Science is just magic translated into boring language with no depth so that autists can understand it.

>>17886481
>Im too dense to understand this concept therefore its meaningless! Im MAD!

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>>17887554
Well it seems the system now thinks I am spaming.
Get your shit together janitor.

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>>17887597
The pic I've talked about.

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>>17887602
Also stuff like this with wavesimulations.
Done with the simulator which can be used from
...falstadDOTcom

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>>17887620

what ratio/frequency is that wave made of?

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>>17887668
That is a good question. I do not know.
I am unfortunately no longer in contact with this guy.

I know he was posting here on /x/ too for quite some time.
My only chance of ever finding him again is asking and showing his pictures.

The green dots show the source, as far as I am aware of.
That is all I can tell you about it.

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>>17887692

>>17886164
1 4 27 256 3125 ...

>>17886133
its not that special
everything is a pattern
literally

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>>17887799
Do I smell a Zen Buddhist in the house?

I can clearly see a pattern here.
And I'm not just talking about those triple dubs.

our physics teacher back in 11th grade made us watch a video on the Fibonacci sequence. Thought we were gonna learn something but it sounded like a bunch of bullshit.. especially when it started talking about how they believe this proved that the world was created by the christian god because of it.

>>17887851
>especially when it started talking about how they believe this proved that the world was created by the christian god because of it
Which is funny.
Earlier I was thinking abit about the numbers that I have posted, and about fibonacci.
I came to the conclusion, that it is therein absolutely impossible to know "Who" did this.
So you see, it's definitely not a proof that the christian god did this.
I mean, what kind of argument is this in the first place..

What I saw however, is that fibonacci took the rule, observed the numbers unfold according to his rule and found what can be found throughout nature.
Now while you cannot know the "prime architect" or "god" in this way, you can certainly see what has been done.
That is, you now have a language with which you can reliably reproduce.

Nothing

>>17887851
What kind of special education retard class were you in that an 11th grade science class is showing religious oriented films to kill time?

>>17886133
He's a great dude and isn't afraid of anything.

>>17887727
>1 4 27 256 3125
1^1, 2^2, 3^3 etc. but what's so interesting about that?

>>17887872

This video series is a great explanation of the significance of the fibonacci sequence and its presence in nature:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahXIMUkSXX0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOIP_Z_-0Hs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14-NdQwKz9w

>>17888142
Thank you for sharing.

>>17887901
I live in texas. it was a physics class

>>17887872
yep. but the dude talking was some creationist, uh.. Ken Ham or something like that.

>>17886204
Because there's nothing amazing about the universe or anything!

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>>17886133
>not sure whether this is bait trying to pit the scifags against the creationfags, but it probably is

>>17889336
Surely this is something we can agree on?

>>17889343
Is this the part where we start a pointless fight on whether or not we agree to agree with each other?

>>17889345
No this is where I jump in and call you a faggot.

>>17889351
Should I now tell you to suck my dick while questioning your own heterosexuality while posting an epic maymay?

>>17889345
Out of interest which of those sides do you believe I'm on?

>>17889353
You do what you feel is right.

>>17886133
Prettyy trippy!

>>17886185

Am I wrong to observe some correlation between the Fibonacci Sequence and Zipf's Law?

>>17889372
yas!

it's just a meme sequence.
>my turd formed a fibonacci spiral in the toilet cuz i'm super spiritual, now i'm a shaman and illumined. Check my spirit molecule kang

>>17886133
It's the optimum rate of growth for a linearly expanding system.

>>17890853
don't you think that's awesome?

>>17890857
Yes, kinda. Not to the same extent other authors praise it, but still a pretty cool number.

We Will Smith now

Don't believe in numbers, for they are a product of language, and there for are man made, they may show what is happening, but that is because they were designed for this purpose, and if you believe in numbers explain to me how grouping different aspects of a system by assigning numerical value proves the existence of a fabricated construct. As we know all of math can be constituted with letters or other symbols and still have mathematical potential.
Math only explains the constructs of this universe that man has placed a linguistic value on, meaning math can't explain the unkown, going to prove that one needs to place a value on a system before it can be mathimatically explained. Going further to prove numbers exist only as a construct of language and not am integral part of the universe.

>>17891003
>numbers are a product of language
The cock you're sucking will always be 1, regardless of it being said or not

>>17891025
Define 1 and I will believe you

>>17891025
Just as I thought, ypu cant because numbers have no definition until imposed on a system wherein they draw their definition from the given system.

fibonacci sequence is the most beautiful thing ever, and so amazing to contemplate, i'm getting super high just thinking about it actually.
Strange to think that this world is born from functions and numbers, but we have the proof, reflected and encoded in every atom of being in the universe:
maths... frickin WOW!

shiny carrot on a string used to bait us away from the actual sublime image

>>17891003
They are an inference tool of realities structure. Because they can be subbed with letters doesn't really invalidate them. It's a system of modeling experience

>>17890875
do you know any other cool sequences?

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>>17886477
HOLY SHIT

>>17886477
can someone pls explain?

>>17892954
Ray of creation, law of octaves, sacred heptaparaparshinokh.

>>17892983
just read about Heptaparaparshinokh, it seems interesting. can you talk more about it?

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ITT: Acknowledging the existence of fractals.

>>17893086
woah

>>17888967
Wasn't that the guy that debated Bill Nye a while back?

>>17892983
can you elaborate on that?

>>17886143
it is

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Look up Villard de Honnecourt. Pretty interesting stuff from someone that youn during the Middle Ages

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>>17893740
Yep

>>17894296
saw his wikipedia page, but what does he have to do with the fibonacci sequence?

>>17893932
>>17893034
>http://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/philo_lawof7.htm

>>17894311
There's a a diagram in which he includes the divine ratio. There's a step by step instruction too. I believe it's called Villard de Honnecourt diagram

>>17886133

it's good stuff, brah, i really appreciate everything that fibonacci has done for us

>>17894339
thanks, what else?

>>17894363
like what?

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>>17886133
I feel like there might be something more to it, but i'm not sure what exactly

>>17886133
It's bretty fuggin dank number meme :D :D :D

>>17895718
is it?

>>17886604
Had a water droplet of condensation fall off my drink and onto my pants, wet spot was a perfect low rez rendition of the Mandelbrot set. Mfw z=z*z+c.

>>17886637
Calling that guy retarded would be more of a compliment than anything else.

>>17886604
>THICC

>>17895760
You're probably right baka.

>>17894380
The underlying construction of reality as we perceive it.

>>17891142
Came here for this

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>>17895799
Ignorant profane.
>>17886604

>>17895804
ayy lmao

>>17886133
The golden rectangle.
The power of infinity.
The true power of the spin Johnny.

>>17886481
It's alright, you can admit that you don't understand what numbers are.

>>17895999
what is there to understand?

>>17886400
SPIRAL OUT MOTHERFUCKER

meme, meme, entropy, .eme, me, e.

>>17896146
what am i looking at?

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Fibonacci song

https://youtu.be/_tcW-j7KFgY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateralus_(song)

>>17896899
Tool fans made me hate tool

>>17899372
Tool from a musical standpoint is pretty cool at times if you ignore the existence of their vocalist and pretend they don't repeat the same measure too much

>>17886133
it just werks.

>>17902472
werk werk werk

>>17886133
real

>>17902655
real recognize real and this nigga the realest