pi.mobi, 'Cicada 3301'

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<! SOMETHING ENDS, SOMETHING BEGINS. A DATE IN HISTORY IS THE EPOCH OF YOUR JOURNEY. EIGHT NUMBERS STAND BETWEEN YOU AND THE ANSWERS. SOLVE THE TEST AND YOU WILL BE FOUND. >

Wlw hccnm pwdwv m ulzia kksgw as npneeij U gfpxg xrv lts wwwhv rj jqdidm ewwyjzsx
Mcg ervfuba oijfg lwmjs fxbf pi A dcmp bb tumfs as Azvffi zqoppv hlwijp qifvfwo
Lwmf gj kbmqwwx C Etvt sqh kqbx qwelk xzk Uyymesow lts wzuzsqh gr Vyldrf lw mbch eprw
Wlwz ri epbm fseyoho W Xaqk la gbfb hh wlae Omdmztoc az hbpqe xlrsx vixm
Yww xzk giwlvwuw hagmpaf lkmk ownj ws jhfwxg nsig lkvwmhyy bb tdxzq hbpqe xhil
Ub nsm odrsv at Hzjvdlxq ffuxxyaqk lts bpiel drv fvy smnv oil fvy Mifllpdq rygwhj
Wlwes lpjrdomggg mplvllsme gylt gzhq mb C Uywvfwiv ub ygmeddwluba npnaqw

<! http://ln6vyadk4hv3dnyt.onion/i/1amajat99.jpg >

>>17865259
2fc6f2bcc4e37a6cacc43f59d5de09da e8b97a05e896312340adc47d57f7db25 99271472177820b0a66fef595391b2ce

>>17865259
into the rabbit hole, tick tock, into the rabbit hole, tick tock, must stop, tick tock, just lost, tick tock, into the rabbit hole, tick tock, can't be stopped, tick tock..tick tock

I have a feeling whatever cipher this is, I'm not skilled enough to crack.

>>17865279
rather try to solve this vigenere cipher than posting three unsolvable MD5 hashes

its actually solvable without knowing the key with online tool

>>17865399
dont give up
its vigenere cipher
you can try to solve it with guessing the key (picture is a clue, open it in notepad to see where it came from)
http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/vigenere.php


if you get too annoyed you can just try this shortcut:
massive spoiler: http://www.guballa.de/vigenere-solver

btw, i have no idea whats with all that 'EIGHT NUMBERS STAND BETWEEN YOU AND THE ANSWERS'

>>17865443
shit, 4chan removes exif data, you need to get jpg from onion to see exif

anyways only thing in exif is
Comment File source: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Portraits_des_impartiaux.jpg

>>17865443
the thing is, they could be doing literally anything. the possibilities are too huge...

>>17865443
So, if the cipher is so simple it can be solved by an automatic tool, perhaps it wasn't intended to be solved using the key? The deciphered text is pretty useless, just prose. Then we could assume the key, "desmoulins", is in fact the next clue: some date important to desmoulins, like his birth or death? I don't know how this number would be used, though.

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>>17865497

Source of prose is
William Blake, The Poetical Works. 1908. The French Revolution, Book the First
http://www.bartleby.com/235/254.html

Note that William Blakes poems and paintings were used in Cicada 3301 puzzles multiple times and Book the First could be translated as Liber Primus.

pic related, cover of Liber Primus, collage of 4 Blakes paintings

"The voice ceasd a groan shook my chamber I slept for the cloud of repose returned
But morning dawnd heavy upon me I rose to bring my Prince heaven utterd counsel
Hear my counsel O King and send forth thy Generals the command of Heaven is upon thee
Then do thou command O King to shut up this Assembly in their final home
Let thy soldiers possess this city of rebels that threaten to bathe their feet
In the blood of Nobility trampling the heart and the head let the Bastille devour
These rebellious seditious seal them up O Anointed in everlasting chains"

Blake, the complete poems.

>>17865267
opening that image in text editor shows this at the very end of the text: 314com/test.txt

which I think is hinting at this: http://31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751.mobi/test.txt

>>17866681
I think you are right, So this test was launched on anniversary of start of WW1 June 28th 1914. Now French Revolution clues. War, Revolution,. does anyone remember the whole Tower of Galata riddle thingy? I have a hypothesis. But i need to know what that Istanbul clue was first.

>>17865568
Good find !

Any news, or updates>?

What does this shit have to do with decrypting the Liber Primus?

Pull yourselves together, /x/; Jesus Christ.

>>17867046
Its believed by more than a few that Pi Mobi was created by Cicada to help decrypt or rather decode Liber primus. Its been 2 years and everyone is fucking bored of going to uncovering wiki and watching wankers play pocket pool.

>>17867064
That's stupid.

>>17867074
No, whats stupid is a bunch of folks promising to BF Liber and nothing happens, so we spend everyday engaged in rubbish speculation. At least we have a living breathing puzzle to solve here. I am bored to death of all the sites, videos, and scrotum football.Aren't you?

Hello. The PGP nazi has arrived right on cue.
If you want some insight into the newest clues, please look at this incredible video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvwAl4uKIM

What if it actually is a hint towards LP? I mean the french revolution thing? Not literally but metaphorically? Book the first is also a hint.. Idk
Btw did anybody answered the question. can you please post the decrypted questions? Also they are primes , so maybe they are more important?

>>17867080
Call me back when there's a PGP signature.

>>17867135
Ok "Illustrious"

>>17867108
It would make sense, since Liber is basically metaphorical, as far as we can tell.

I want to see the decrypted questions also

Hi Hush hush That video is pure gold ! Thanx

Found an onion.

http://ln6vyadk4hv3dnyt.onion/i/1amhajich.png

And another; http://ln6vyadk4hv3dnyt.onion/i/1amhcjcnn.png

>>17866681
so give us the answers and the 8 digit code so we can all reach the enlightenment

>>17867316
lp ygc qeq adnkhn efre
wdgpfq naf qyeadf
pfab wo nmva nfzxdnp

on bottom of the file, but i suspect its just trolling

>>17867375
What type of cipher is that?

idk
too short to tell if garbage or not

>>17867436
Ok thanks

>>17867135
Will do!

>>17867316
>>17867353
Where did you find those?

>>17867375
Lmao , trolling? Are you sure about that? Figure out what this new picture represents . It's just blatantly pointing towards LP lol

>>17867851
>tfw pi.mobi cracked Liber Primus and this was the only safe way for them to tell others how to crack it

The 8 numbers are the important date we must figure out in order to establish the e-mail adress, obviously. Any ideas?

>>17867860
Doubt it. I think it's cicada's side project in order to give hints towards LP which is the main project. They want us to doubt , so they don't use PGP on that one but they do on the "official" one. I saw the fckin desription of 314 video and it was "Seek and you will be found". It may be a huge coincidence but I don't believe in coincidence like that

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>>17867880
Or cicada took that phrase from 314/found video, put it in black jpg message and in PGP signed outguess, and set date back to Jan 1st 2016 0:00 GMT before signing the text. Its a stretch but it is possibility.

But to add some confusion here is log from a guy who claims he solved Liber Primus years ago.
https://linx.li/c167761c.txt

>>17868073
Sounds like that 33something guy from #CicadaSolvers. He just goes 7/7 = ? all the time lol. It sounds like him with all the "rules" posted on .onion that nobody has ever seen lol. Like 3301 would give people rules on what they are allowed to leak and on the same time always underline "work alone" lol. Makes no sense whatsoever. Another attention seeker.

>>17868073
I don't think 3301 would rip anybody off anything. If someone from the two sources did - it's most def Pi.mobi

>>17865297
2edgy3301me

Anybody decrypted the questions yet? The order is strange too. Only primes are encrypted

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Does /x/ know that Old letter 'from 1796' as it was mentioned in http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/17828683/#17836835 was found on facebook?

On June 26 two days old account Liam Olv (from June 24) posted link to 2 weeks old (from June 13) facebook page fb/Archéologie-Locale-en-Lorraine-1703378479914416/. That page has few posts about archeology and history from Lorraine region, where Beaumont-en-Verdunois is. On June 23 they posted (2 hours apart) images of spear and image of letter.

On /x/ image of spear was posted on June 18 and poster with QR was posted on June 22.

Note that Beaumont coordinates were posted on pi.mobi in beginning of June, and that our first researcher didnt find anything on the location but he provided photos proving that he was there.
http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/17770712/#17773592 French fag never posted any photos from that area.

Translation of text of both posts:
Fascinating discovery in Beaumont this week! An old lance dating from the Roman era of 1St / 2th century has just been discovered. According to the expert the handle was however shaped in the short years, probably in order to fix his alterations as the measure.
We thought the Roman Army was made on the spot in the vicinity of 4th century... Still a mystery to solve!

Ah the epistolary and its many mystery... This lip a bit damaged should yet we unveil its mysteries shortly...
What we know? Sent from Bordeaux to Paris by a certain Mr Von Huge, she was destined to someone important! Can't wait to open version.

Whole thing seems quite scripted to me

>>17868260

Decryption of enciphered (primes) questions in test.txt
As before cipher is vigenere and key is 'desmoulins'

3. Zlsf auvmf qry , qai?
5. Gswe gifvq zdthqb cq vb wqxafm cd xewviff hi pfcwumwzqy tb? Rpspsub.
7. Gixuby epr orvv "ffoep".
11. Zlsf ri ambhoi kffcgm sgu exfsl nwzhoiluba eprau tsfv nz madlkzfshxmal?

3. What makes you , you?
5. Does sound happen if no entity is present to experience it? Explain.
7. Define the word "truth".
11. What do people strive for after completing their path to enlightenment?

Test is very similar to test from Cicadas 3301 puzzle in 2013.
That test can be seen here http://cicada3301.org/test/

>>17867801
On the Mobi site. Its still up

>>17868324
They're only really similar if you didn't understand any piece of the Cicada one

This one's a joke

>>17867880
I am thinking its one FUCK of a coincidence and this is leading me to believe Pi Mobi is 100% Cicada. Yes, they wanted us to doubt. Thats how Chaos Magik works. Sow doubt and then you arrive at a new place.

>>17868324
5: Yes,there is sound,is like a signal,if no one is there to catch the signal it doesnt mean the signal wasnt there in the first place

Reading teh FB. The dudes talking about the old letter are not saying the letter is dated 1796. They just say some frog had the spear and snatched it around that time. Oh, and they say the letter is from around the sam time period,French revolution?

>>17868162
Cicada has" ripped off" all sorts of literary sources.So I am not sure I understand your logic.

>>17868073
>that pic
But it's not 3301 yet. We have a least a millennium before that type of paranoia sets in.

>>17868260
Hello. John here. There is no date of 1796 on the letter, as far as I can tell. It does match late 18th century letters in both the black block lettering of the postal marks and the obvious vellum and indian ink used during the period. I can see taht this is probably an 18th century letter The name Von Huge shows no hits and I am just assuming that the Spaniard who sent her the picture read it wrong or maybe the letter is damaged, It is curious to see a Roman spear and 18th century letter together and I only wish the Spanish person would reappear.

oh and anonymous dumbass that not how chaos magick works

>>17868664
Look who is the dumbass
Nothing has Ultimate Truth. Anything Remains Possible. NUTARP!

>>17868697
Thats the chaos magick code. In other words, what is truth>

Hi This is Zeroes, Now where is my little PGP Nazi? He shows up here like clockwork.Muh ha ha ha

>>17868844
Then don't jinx it by namefagging.

>>17868883
Ok

>>17868844
>>17868906
>>17867784
>>17867738
>>17867155
>>17867087
seriously dude lol your typing dialect is so obvious m8. gotta switch it up a little bit. ironic how you complain about people shifting character when it's convenient xD

>>17868411
You sure about that , champ?

4. A master proposes a game to a man. He says " I have two envelopes. White and black. The white envelope contains a key to a box with 1000 golden coins. The black envelope contains either a key to a box with 1 000 000 golden coins or it contains nothing. You have two choices : you can either take the black envelope only or you can take both of them.
The black envelope was filled many years ago by a Divinity. The Divinity can see the future. The Divinity is never wrong. The Divinity has done this :
- If it predicted that you would take the black envelope, it put the key to the box with 1 000 000 coins into the black envelope
- If it predicted that you would take both envelopes , it put nothing into the black envelope
The Divinity can see the future. The Divinity is never wrong.
a) what would be your choice? Is it a difficult one to make?
b) what possible question does this game illustrate?
Substantiate your answers.

the fuck? Don't get it

>>17868401
Why is this one a joke? Care to elaborate?

>>17867864
08 14 20 16

>>17868437
My logic is : they wouldn't rip off any other potential puzzle makers ( like pi.mobi for example). Of course they gonna rip off ciphers , books , paintings but that wasn't the point. The point was - if anybody would rip off anybody it would be pi.mobi ripping off 3301 not the other way around.

>>17868401
Yes of course because cicada's questions like :

Observation changes the thing being observed.
or
Grass is only green due to a relationship between the grass, light, and your mind.
are totally NOT discussing the same problem as the question :
Does sound happen if no entity is present to experience it? Explain

and the questions from cicada's test :
All things are true
and
There is no truth
are totally NOT similar to the question from mobi:
Define the word "truth"

You can say that this is a ripoff ( not saying it isn't) but saying it's not similar is just a bit retarded.
Just admit that you disdain the test not because of its content but because it's not signed by cicada.
You're probably one of these people that would jerk off to a potentially deep question if it was given by 3301 , regardless if it was just a question like "2+2 =4 . Is that true?"
Try harder. If you don't believe the puzzle , consider it a fake or whatever just don't come up here lol. It's that simple.

>>17869707
I don't agree. I think Mobi is Cicada. That found video went up before Cicada twitter. I know some solvers hate facts, but facts do not care about feelings and as 20 people pointed out, they all saw the video and it was called found. I know some folks falsely claimed there was only 2 hours between the vid and the tweet. Thats wrong There was 11 hours. No solver can explain this mystery credibly.

>>17870378
yeah, but now we have a big text document and it has no signature, like they *always* had in the past with actual cicada

>inb4 hush hush
>inb4 PGP nazi

>>17870378
Read what I said again. I said IF anybody would rip anybody it would be pi.mobi ripping of cicada not the opposite. I never said that I disagree that Cicada isn't mobi. That was just an assumption I made - if they were separate groups , my bet would be that mobi ripped cicada not the other way around.

>>17870386
My idea is - they do it on purpose. They won't give hints to LP just by signing their messages the usual way. In order to forward the progress of 2014 riddle they started pi.mobi so the clues are less obvious. You can follow them and possibly get some more clues or disregard it and try to break LP like before. I think mobi supporters and enemies should cease fire and let them do their thing. Just my opinion

>>17869664
He will not elaborate, The same troll shows up with his PGP bullshit, completely missing the esoteric similarities in the Cicada and Pi Mobi questions. The same butt hurt solver on constant troll.>>17869974

>>17870393
Ok. I see that. But ripping off is a harsh term. If they are connected, perhaps "borrow" is a getter term.

>>17870399
I agree. It seems Pi Mobi is all about giving hints to LP. They keep going back to it, like its something they really want us to focus on, so your theory makes sense.

http://31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751.mobi/3301
You saw that? There's another code in the end of the .txt
lp ygc qeq adnkhn efre
w dgpfq naf qyeadf
pfab wo nmva nfzxdnp

Anybody has an idea what that picture represents?

>>17871172
Holy shit. I know that image. Hold on...

>>17871211
Can you post the image? Mine doesn't load.

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What is it?

>>17871397
Chapel oak of Allouville Bellefosse.

>>17871397
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%AAne_chapelle

"During the French Revolution, the tree became an emblem of the old system of governance and tyranny as well as the church that aided and abetted it: a crowd descended upon the village, intent on burning the tree to the ground. However, a local whose name is lost renamed the oak the "Temple of Reason" and as such it became a symbol of the new ways of thinking and was spared"
a possible hint

also :
"The oak tree is between 800[1] and 1,200[2] years old. It is 15 metres (49 ft) high and its base has a circumference of 16 metres (52 ft). Its hollow trunk hosts two chapels, which were built there in 1669 and are still used: Notre Dame de la Paix ("Our Lady of Peace") and the Chambre de l'Ermite ("Hermit's room"). [2] A spiral staircase around the trunk provides access to the chapels.[1]

When the tree was nearing 500 years of age, it was struck by lightning; the resulting fire burned slowly through the center and hollowed the tree out"
Maybe it's a hint towards the dead oak tree from LP?

>>17871397
Its easy to see, since I google imaged...

>>17871445
Wow!! Maybe!

>>17871172
This doesn't look like vigenere. Anybody has any ideas?

>>17871700
Bigramal? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigram

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>>17871397
>>17871405
>>17871416
>>17871435
>>17871445
>>17871469
>>17871631
>>17871700

This image came from this post: >>17867316
I dont know how the hell poster 'Found' that image, he might be uploading it himself. Like one guy after him.

lp ygc qeq adnkhn efre
wdgpfq naf qyeadf
pfab wo nmva nfzxdnp

cipher seems like rubbish to me, or at least hard to decrpyt with no clues
also pi.mobi used capitalization in their ciphertext

>>17871909
Lmao , Sherlock Holmes over here. Mate , it's basically on the page? When you go on the page it says 3301.html . Idk how he found it but I found it just by typing that after the slash lol.
They also used capitalization because the fucking poem had capitalizations in the middle of the text? And this thing is probably different? Ever thought of it ? rofl.

>>17871909
http://31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751.mobi/3301

>>17871965
>>17871970
oh shit i missed
<title>3301.html</title>
thx
ok then it came from legit source

Any Discord chats that are open for this?

>>17871999
Yes.But WTF is the cipher? Could it be rubbish?
I suspect much of LP is.

any1 got a re-upload from that images they link to in /3301 ? Seems to be loading forever....

Wlw hccnm pwdwv m ulzia kksgw as npneeij U gfpxg xrv lts wwwhv rj jqdidm ewwyjzsx
Mcg ervfuba oijfg lwmjs fxbf pi A dcmp bb tumfs as Azvffi zqoppv hlwijp qifvfwo
Lwmf gj kbmqwwx C Etvt sqh kqbx qwelk xzk Uyymesow lts wzuzsqh gr Vyldrf lw mbch eprw
Wlwz ri epbm fseyoho W Xaqk la gbfb hh wlae Omdmztoc az hbpqe xlrsx vixm
Yww xzk giwlvwuw hagmpaf lkmk ownj ws jhfwxg nsig lkvwmhyy bb tdxzq hbpqe xhil
Ub nsm odrsv at Hzjvdlxq ffuxxyaqk lts bpiel drv fvy smnv oil fvy Mifllpdq rygwhj Wlwes lpjrdomggg mplvllsme gylt gzhq mb C Uywvfwiv ub ygmeddwluba npnaqw


copied it to just be plain text hope this helps in the solving of the cipher

>>17872070
I have never seen anything even remotely like this. It has to be babble.

>>17872047
https://a.uguu.se/zYb1vbmxnZ0y_1amhajich.png

>>17872070
that was solved yesterday
>>17865497
>>17866588
read the fucking thread before shitposting

>>17872134
4/07/1789 is start of French Revolution.
There are primes in this date, obviously. My sense is that rather than desmoulins being the clue, its the date that is the clue. I could e totally off.

>>17871909
>>17872033
i have made an assumption on the cipher in that its plain readable English as some of the words can still be read
encrypted once leaving some text plain to read
then encrypted again with some letters but not all
cant say if true but thats my guess

>Open the image in a text editor
>Scroll down

lp ygc qeq adnkhn efre
wdgpfq naf qyeadf
pfab wo nmva nfzxdnp

I'ts not base64 or ceasars shift

>>17872172
I am lost a bit. Could it refer to a date? 7141789 is a composite made of two primes, but 14071789 is a prime.https://bikubik.com/en/number-14071789-0xD6B7ED.html

>>17872174
Status: Finished (4.999 seconds)
Rank Score Solution
1
-4.289
~l why dvd arctic ve~v urhled cae dwvare lean us coma ce~~rcl
2
-4.302
~l why dvd arctic ve~v urhled cae dwvare lean up coma ce~~rcl
3
-4.378
~l why dvd arctic ve~v krhled cae dwvare lean ku coma ce~~rcl
4
-4.44
ch ups ltl inm~~m teat bnphel mie lutine heir by modi me~~nmh
5
-4.456
~l why dvd arctic ve~v frhled cae dwvare lean fu coma ce~~rcl
6
-4.458
~g ol~ srs tin~~n re~r bilges nte sortie get~ by naut necking
7
-4.48
~g wha ere linton ru~r cihgue nlu ewrliu gulp cd n~~l numbing
8
-4.58
~e ml~ pgp rid~~d gang tileap dra pmgria ear~ tv dour dayside
9
-4.597
~v job sts rlp~~p tent cloves pre sjtrle very cd pair pe~~lpv
10
-4.617
~l hum zsz aor~~r sews boulez rae zhsaoe lean by riga re~~orl

http://quipqiup.com/index.php

>>17872191
Take note;
Those 'solutions' I posted are just a few, there are so many.

>>17872214
This is above my head.

>>17872219
If you go to the site and enter that text,
you get those results,
more 'promising' results are found if you chose "find spaces" but nothing 100% and I don't know if I'm finding the solution or creating one right now.

>>17872230
>>17872219
Never mind this site, it's useless (or so it seems)
It will try to find anything, or even make it I don't even know anymore.

Dead end.

>>17872242
Thanks man. This is harder than I expected.

>>17872191
that site only solves cryptograms which are monoalphabetic ciphers
vigenere is polyalphabetic
since text is too short to bruteforce i guess best tool to solve it by hand is this site:http://cryptoclub.org/tools/crackvig_topframe.php

but we dont have any guarantee that its just plain vigenere again

>>17872184
bastille day
july 14, 1789

>>17872291
Ok, but its a composite, yet made up of two primes...I just do not think Cicada would use a non prime..http://numbermatics.com/n/7141789/

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>>17872312
Dude 7141789 is 7 digits. Learn to count lol.

>>17872184
Of course it refers to a date duh. In the test it says (8digitdate)@protonmail.com lol.

>>17872351
I know. I am working on it. Could 07 fit in? Add a zero before the 7, and I do not mean that zero troll @!

>>17872242
Maybe try something different than simple substition ciphers.......

heres an idea.. use http://973-eht-namuh-973.com/ to decipher. might work. im to lazy atm

>>17872395
when you go 14071789 you get a prime number tho

>>17872169
So the revolution started on 4/07/1789 ?

mkay

>>17872407
Thats european way to put it That makes sense since its France. I am american, so we always have day of the week first. That is a prime. Maybe thats it?

>>17872421
No 07141789
But it could be 14071789, which would be european way I guess,. Any EU fags here?

>>17872492

Yes 07/01/16 is 01/07/16

>>17872606
Ok, then 1789 would be 14071789, as opposed to 2016,
The 1789 is a prime

The cipher could be a strange form of columnar transposition, the lines arent all the same length, but it could still work

>>17873013
Interesting thought Like the fibs on the branches o LP

>>17872487
I mean that he wrote July 4th instead of 14th lol

>>17872928
14071789 is a prime
Desmoulins lead people on Bastille
The Blake poem mentions walls of Bastille
the oak is a symbol of the old system ( governance and tyranny) so i guess bastille falling is also connected to "something ends something new begins" . I think that's it
I think it's it

>>17874157
..so the numbers are for the address for the answers? Has someone mailed yet?

>>17874680
Even if they did , I doubt they'd reply directly back because then everybody would just send msg to them

>>17874680
and yeah i think it has to be it. Too big of a coincidence. Bastille , Desmoulins , the fact that it's not the first time they use dates on that site ( pi day etc) , the number itself 14071789 which is a prime and it's kinda symbolic..

>>17874697
It is symbolic. The shitstorm happening all over the world has similarity. People pissed off at Government and their "intrigues". I have friends in Germany who look at Merkel as a bad actor. her in the US, look at the massive populist movement. Its Nationalism V Globalism. Globalism has been an agenda pushed by Governments and I use to support it, until I realized it is nothing more than a ruse that makes the elite rich and leaves the middle class broke and feeling vulnerable. French revolution was a movement of the people against the elites. Maybe history repeats?

>>17874118
LOL. I noticed. So this points to July 14th 1789
We are progressing. But what about the cipher?
It must have some meaning we are missing.I have run it through program after program and nothing.

>>17874692
When I figure out the answers I'm gonna send it . I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't reply instantly. That would cause a spamfest if somebody verified the mail as responsive. Anybody actually thinking of the answers or is everyone just occupied with the cipher?

I got part of the answer it was from a dream it has to do with jupiter and disapesring or not being there. 9 planets(ignoring the gay ones)

Jupiter gone 8 left. Jupiter either turns into a black hole we all die

>>17875253
Zeroes?

>>17875184
Yes. The questions are interesting, Te first one is clearly a "He who dies with the most toys, wins" answer.But some of the others are very interesting.

>>17875273
What do you mean "he who dies with the most toys , wins" ?

>>17875289
Stockpiling as much coin as you can get, so you can buy big houses, ho's, bling.

asdfghjkl

can i be the smartass too now?

>>17875575
Yes, you can.

>>17875575
No , you're still dumb. This is a genuine cipher. Kill yourself

>>17875582
Oh, sorry. My bad. You cant be "the" smartass.
Just "a" smartass.

>>17875586
What makes a cipher genuine? Is it that, when there is a online-tool for decrypting it? That people can decrypt it easily, even they are not the ones the message is assigned? It be pretty safe to use self-made encryptions, when average google-pro cant find tool for it.

>>17875594
I mean that it presents a message and is not just random letters like the dude above posted..
And I must suck at deciphering because I have no fucking idea what were you trying to say , dude.

"That people can decrypt it easily, even they are not the ones the message is assigned? It be pretty safe to use self-made encryptions, when average google-pro cant find tool for it"

English perhaps?

>>17875612
*are not

You see ? It's fucking contagious . Thx a lot

>>17875586
I agree this cipher is genuine. Its also quite a bit more advanced then the usual vigenere stuff I see noobs using.What if its not something thats in the google toolbox? What if they created a new cipher, not using polyalphabetic substitution.?

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>>17875656
There is a lot of classical ciphers they could use before inventing new one. And inventing new one usually means just making some changes to already established ciphers, they already thought of most possible enciphering methods in past.
And since this message is meant to be decrypted I guess they used one of historic ciphers.
Playfair, columnar transposition, railfence would be my first guesses.
This page might help
http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/

>>17875721
Playfair. Ok, will look into it. I do not know that one. I have a question. You have a icon of a "Saints Lance" Can I assume this is a Cicada/Mobi member? If so, nice to meet you.

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>>17875787
No , he's just a recruit. Every recruit in our facility wear a holy lance on their back. I am a veteran member of Cicada 3301 because my nickname say so and I have an avatar of cicada.

How can I help you?

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>>17875787
no its just random image i have from when i was looking at holy lance images, dont think that my cipher suggestions came from PM team, its just a guess

>>17867880
If I had a LP for everytime i see a cipher I would be in challenger right now

>>17875908
Cute The lance image he used the so called Lance of St. Peter. It was an interesting choice.

>>17875995
The Vienna lance looks like its been discounted.
Its from like 650 A.D.

Well, as far as that spear found in Beaumont,France, it does appear to be 100% Roman. But as this article says, nobody can prove any of the spears THE spear. That being said, I will say its pretty strange than the spear Spaniard found seems to be in such good condition. It's not fake because modern replica's are soooo easy to spot, but there is little doubt it was cared for and from a collection of some kind.http://legends-christianity.blogspot.com/2009/11/spear-of-destiny.html

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Yo guys, another thread came up over here:

>>17876142

Dunno if it's helpful to you guys.

>>17876162
This is what I dug out about Vatican/Rome/St Peter Lance

A fragment of another lance is held in Saint Peter's Basilica within Vatican City. The first mention of this spear is in 570 AD, when a pilgrim touring holy areas of Jerusalem writes of viewing "(T)he crown of thorns with which Our Lord was crowned and the lance with which He was struck in the side." During the 7th Century AD, the point of this second spear breaks off for an unknown reason. The separated tip is sent to Constantinople and enters the possession of Louis the IX of France in the 13th Century. The point is lost in the late 1700s during the upheaval of the French Revolution.

The body of this spear, currently held in Saint Peter's Basilica, also passed through Constantinople. Turks destroyed Constantinople in the 15th Century, but Bayezid II, Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, sent the lance fragment and a yearly monetary tribute of approximately 4,000 ounces of gold to Pope Innocent II(VIII?) in exchange for indefinitely holding the Sultan's brother and pretender to the Turkish throne, Prince Jem, as a prisoner in Rome.

The point of the spear is never physically reunited with the fragment within Saint Peter's Basilica. The only confirmation of a "proper fit" came when a drawing of the tip (made prior to its loss in the French revolution) received by Pope Benedict XIV is compared to the large fragment held at Saint Peter's Basilica around 1750.

The lance has never since left Rome, although the Catholic Church makes no claims as to its authenticity as the Holy Lance. The lance was never shown in public.

>>17865259

12/21/2020

Imagine a unifying vizion.

12/21/2033

Imain that vizion manifesting.

12/21/2045

Imagine an AI, superior to the mind of humans, exponentially expanding its own knowledge and influence.

>>17865443
Simple, eight numbers is a date. xx/xx/xxxx

>>17876520
Ok, that causes some speculation. On that shitty pic of the spear ( garden tool) the wood seems damaged towards the shaft. The vatican spear has some kind of metal brace at the base of the spear, like the one Spanish fag found. Has anyone heard from him?

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>>17876587
few pages suggest that vatican spear look something like this roman spearhead on picture, which is pretty close to spear spanish fag found, but i found no proofs on those claims, all that is certain is that vatican spear has tip broken off

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>>17876616
Agree. But Spainish fag posted some type of reinforced bind here. Take a look
I am no expert, but is it design, or function? Was it to shore up a broken shaft?

>>17876616
And look at that giant crack.See what I mean?Looks more like the staff was damaged.

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>>17876864
bottom part of brace looks like wire

>>17876583
No shit , really?

Guys I cracked the cipher from the oak tree. I tried all of the ciphers with several keys and this is in fact a playfair cipher , the keyword is
tyranny. I tried with this grid ( I and J substitution applied)
T Y R A N
B C D E F
G H I K L
M O P Q S
U V W X Z
N and Y are skipped because they repeat.

The message looks like this after deciphering :

is the oak really dead
primes are sacred
send us your answers

No idea what the first thing means or what does it refer to

>>17878289
Interesting

I tried tyranny because it is what the tree represents and it worked. Idk why playfair tho

>>17878292
I agree. Interesting.

>>17878289
OMG wait. Maybe it's about the uncovering wikia , the page with what was described as the dead oak tree? Anybody tried to actually apply playfair on LP?

>>17878591
Not yet, it seems, but that could be a new approach.

>>17878293
Because they wanted it to be tough. Pi Mobi is far more complicated than what some say. Its more Liber Primusy, if thats a word lol

>>17878740
Maybe , I typed Playfair and Bastille in google and got this lol :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Playfair

On leaving Watt's company in 1782, he set up a silversmithing business and shop in London, which failed. In 1787 he moved to Paris, taking part in the storming of the Bastille two years later. He returned to London in 1793, where he opened a "security bank", which also failed. From 1775 he worked as a writer and pamphleteer and did some engineering work.

If it's intended , then it's a nice wordplay. Kind of clever

>>17865259
vovi

>>17878765
Most interesting.Well, I am impressed.

>>17878768
Who does everything Pi Mobi do(does) take us back to Liber primus?

Someone should start a Wiki page on the Pi Mobi puzzles. Maybe I will
They show up on 4chan and then FB, and sometimes YT. I went to the 3301 wiki and teh admins are a bit behind the times, so maybe a new Wiki is needed.

>>17879102
>I went to the 3301 wiki and teh admins are a bit behind the times
It's like they think pi.mobi is just some guy piggybacking on Cicada.

>>17879291
I disagree. Too many hands in it to be "one guy'

Ahhh, the piggybacking theory..Its been discounted, If anything, didn't Cicada piggyback Pi Mobi in the Found video? Found video preceded the tweet by 11 hours, so its clear the two are connected. The piggyback theory is stupid. We might also ask why no solvers were able to suss out that the music in that video was Michael Haydn, the drunken yet talented brother of Joseph Haydn.
The real question is why Playfair cipher?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6KR34hTmUI

LOL.

>>17879460
rotf!

>>17879344
The description could be altered after the fact tho.

>>17879737
There were enough witnesses who attest to the video being originally entitled found. There are a good dozen or so, including the admin of teh facebook cicada page that say they also remember it saying Seek and You will be Found.So I checked archive.org, and the video shows 15 likes and under 4k views in April. Everyone says title was changed in March, not January. Take a look at the April snapshot yourself. https://web.archive.org/web/20160412063316/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzA_Le3Iq_w
My money is on the many witnesses who describe a video with few views, not marketed, entitled Found, with music that hinted at "hiding" If the video was some scam, it would have been marketed. Finally, the use of the phrase empty path,,In empty path and lane and grass will creep That could refer to Beaumont, and the clues given as grass will creep i.e. warmer months of spring/summer. The evidence is clear. Either its connected to Cicada or Pi Mobi knew what Cicada tweet would be before Cicada tweeted, 11 hours later

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>>17880006
Or cicada 3301 took quote from that video to induce more confusion, PGP signed it with older date and include warning to check PGP signature to avoid false paths. Although in that case 3301 would have to find that video and would have to predict persistence of pi.mobi PMs to keep their puzzles alive as long as they did.
There might be either people who solved 3301 puzzle in previous years or solved Liber Primus involved in pi.mobi, although I think that experienced solvers would use different tricks.
I guess we will never know what was the real sequence of events.
I am not saying that pi.mobi puzzle isnt worth solving but last official 3301s statement was 'Beware false paths. Verify OpenPGP 7A35090F.'

>>17869645

The main question for me is "Does the Divinity wants me to get 1 000 000?"

>>17880249
Care to explain what those different tricks would be? Maybe pi.mobi isn't supposed to be difficult or similar to the official riddle because of its purpose. Which is hinting towards LP?

>>17880249
Could be. It would not be unlike Cicada to purposely cause confusion. Chaos theory.
But, as many have stated, the "beware false path" warning probably has little to do with PGP and more to do with another meaning. I side with the many who believe Pi Mobi is being used by Cicada to illuminate a path to Liber primus.It's clear to me that both Pi Mobi and the latest Cicada tweet have the same message, i.e, keep focussed on liber primus.I would say the Pi Mobi puzzles are very much worth solving,

dunno if this was pointed out before, but the archive of that website has two different messages
https://web.archive.org/web/20160121003149/http://31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751.mobi/BM2cSwMJ7SaEji4qU8p1isEkVHuHCHhmZgwh.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20160412060814/http://31415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751.mobi/BM2cSwMJ7SaEji4qU8p1isEkVHuHCHhmZgwh.html

>>17881845
page changed few times, but it isnt well documented, if you are interested best source is 4plebs archive use search

>>17881775
I think that they would at least be using outguess, and they would do more on opsec, you can find logs of pi.mobi guys trying to recruit people on multiple sites and I think its quite obvious that PMs are actively involved in solvers community, spanish fag is very suspicious, jpg of that map 'all roads lead to rome' was posted on facebook two days earlier than it was posted by spanish fag, they were actively trying to persuade people that cicada doesnt use PGP anymore, someone was claiming that pictures from spanish fag have location exif from paris which isnt true since facebook and 4chan both remove exif....

>>17881916
You are making valid points. I mean I don't necessarily agree with the outguess one because you could say the same thing about all sorts of elements of the previous puzzles i.e. the most obvious one which is PGP . I agree on the 2nd part though. Were there people that were trying to persuade that 3301 doesn't use PGP? I thought 3/4 of the pi.mobi supporters were saying that XD. Or were the ones who you suspect of being PMs just saying that pi.mobi doesn't use it because it's a side project which points to LP? That's a major difference.

Was there music involved in CAKES or is it bs?

>>17865443
eight numbers means that the epoch they are talking bout is between the year 1000 and 2016 i guess.

>>17881999
Dude it was established days ago. Read the topic , don't shitpost.

Can anyone give me an update on where we are right now? Thanks :)

>>17881960
No. It was some people who were saying PGP was no longer used in 2015, not with pi.mobi.
The main proponent of that theory was the zeroes person, who is obsessed with Liber. Remember, in 2015, the idea that Cicada was not using PGP anymore was because hacking community was feeling nervous about all encryption being compromised by NSA. Pi.mobi did not even launch till January, and the PGP convo dates back to Sept 2015 on FB. Very different issues.

>>17882092
Since then, PGP has been used though. people who talked about pgp being abandoned have never been right about that before, and they will probably never be right as almost no threat to PGP (short for RSA being broken) applies in the context 3301 uses PGP in.

>>17881916
Thats because the all roads lead to rome image was posted and then deleted on Pi.mobi ! Please get your facts straight.That image was posted, then deleted, and then a poster of the same image was found by Spanish Fag 30 hours later Then Spanish fag posted the picture of the spear and then said he would post again and the thread was 404ed. Ball of confusion here, with one or two solvers relentlessly attacking mobi as usual. The 314 video proves the connection to cicada, because it was originally called found. Its so obvious that the admin of wiki is actively trying to do a troll on mobi cause he was wrong. No fan of zeroes, but he does have a point about the motives and intentions of some solvers.

>>17882109
I always thought, and still do think open PGP is pretty safe. I am just saying I remember the conversations and they were heated.

>Yfw all is says is "ur a faget"

I also remember the PGO conversations dating to well before Mobi, but on Reddit. I am not on FB for security reasons. But can we forget the PGP shit, I have a question. Why has nobody brute forced liber primus? If Mobi and twitter are both saying stick to LP, and anons have been saying "lets BF LP", why no action?

>>17882124
because that is two significant problems you have to solve. The amount of combinations for rune keys up to and including length 10 is something like 350 trillion, which is an insane amount. the other thing is, how do you check a solution to be correct? That takes time as well and might still not be absolutely sure to indicate a right solution. You just dont have enough time because the complexity explodes

>>17882131
That is such a good answer, I wish I could give you a thumbs up, but its chan. Thank you for clarifying !

>>17882124
Read the description on uncovering wikia to see how they approached to the bruteforce problem. >>17882131
Not quite correct altough the part about insane amount is correct. The exact number would be around this :
29! possibilities which is about 8.841762*10^30 permutations. It would take a 1000 years to find it. Literally a 1000.
Each revealed rune would lower the possibilities from n! to (n-1)! and this is ONLY if we assumed there is one operation applied on each rune lol. It's possible but only theoretically lol.

>>17865259
Whats pretty funny is Cicada is a christian cult obsessed with finding a false god to portray Jesus. They're actually pretty stupid. You can find their website, more cicada shit all on the Tor network.

>>17882209
You're on the other hand , are actually pretty sma...nah jk you're stupid as fuck . Fuck outta here with this christian cult shit.

>>17882188
Sound of my head exploding

>>17882216
Yea, I also agree. It aint no christian cult shit It borrows from middle ages catholic pilgrims tradition, but its way beyond any Judeo-Christian mind set.Its ultimately about many things, privacy, individualism, self enlightenment, etc

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Im Marie and I lost 50 pounds on Nutrasystem!

I know three Pi Mobi guys who all swear by PGP.
Not that Cicada always uses it,
Only Zeroes and a couple of others thought otherwise.I am inbetween. I feel like anything encrypted can be hacked, but 3301 did use a sig on Jan 6th, That we know.

>>17882111
Thx, I didnt know where that jpg came from. And it looked like it was posted by PMs. Guy who posted it on FB when asked where he got it literally said
'I'm more concerned with what it indicates than where it came from. It's a map of sorts.'
>Please get your facts straight.
Would love to but, how? Pi.mobi is lacking proper documentation.

>>17882188
yeah, i didnt have the numbers ready, but the point stands regardless, computationally speaking its hardly ever going to happen.

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>>17882209
did you found this one http://2lol7ha4j442rqeg.onion
or this one
http://vj7suk6t5bfjugdv.onion
?

>>17882257
Ok, sorry of I sounded a bit uptight. here is my theory. If you read the words of twitter, it points to Liber primus being a map. Numbers are the direction refers to geo coordinates. The issue is, as one anon pointed out, that there are so many potential variables. If I am correct, then Liber Primus is an actual treasure map of sorts, and Pi Mobi was created to focus interest back on Liber Primus. Press came out on the 2016 puzzle and in the articles, the solvers interviewed expressed frustration with Liber primus. I think Pi Mobi keeps hinting at us to revisit Liber. That image was on the mobi site with a tag saying "back before forward" or something like it. Then the whole thing was taken off the pi mobi site. This time, they adjusted the Mobi site yet again. I keep going back to "The path lies empty, numbers are the direction", etc. It all sounds like a treasure map.Thats what I believe LP to be. If this spear discovery is a hint, then maybe my theory might have foundation. Who knows? Sorry I jumped your shit.

>>17882262
1000 years, wow. So maybe Pi Mobi is created to provide further clues.

So whats the update?

Isis has nothing on the French, who were beheading en masse in the 1790's

>>17880280
Does it matter what the divinity wants, if you take the black, the 1000000 is there for you?
Or are thinking that, the question is: is it you, that picked the one you picked, or did the divinity make you take it?

Maybe the digit date is 06/06/2006

>>17883337
How did you come up with that date?

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Hi im new, i was reading this post and am looking to the posted links i found some interesting things, i dont think that are shitpost ok. One of the links says: 4577291000
The other one shows a sign like an s other two like an m and finally one that looks like a < .
The image shows a a desipher code
I dont know what means so.... that bye :) (sorry for my bad english, im from chile and im 13 years old)

>>17883865
Welcome, we can use all the help we can get.

>>17883865
Let's hope the mods don't notice this post. I really hope this kid doesn't get banned.

>>17883980

Wow we have a summer fag here.

Anybody familiar with huffman coding, or something similar, how does one go to find if it is used somewhere? I cant seem to really get the idea of it/them. Probably not related to anything, but just trying to learn something.

>>17884019
http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Huffman_coding
Tho Playfair was used for this puzzle FYI

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>>17883865
those charaters are celtic runes, meaning SEEK

http://ln6vyadk4hv3dnyt.onion/i/1amte66hi.jpg

Empty paths could refer to a coma like state.
Neuropaths.

3301.html

>>17885834
Where did you come across that onion?

Hey guys, I've been following along trying to work out what I can. I'm new to the game here. 2 questions.
1. What is Liber Primus?
2. How did we get "desmoulins" as the key?

Thanks

>>17886467
Also, the last onion pic posted of the "Juillet" date, I can't save it directly using the tor browser on my phone. Can someone post the original file directly here?

>>17886470
That's a fake because pi.mobi guys used this TOR:
http://ln6vyadk4hv3dnyt.onion/
That's an image uploader. So everybody can go there and generate an image of his own , posting thousands of fake clues.

If it's not on pi.mobi I'd ignore it. What gives away the poster is the garbage "cipher" at the end of the 14 julliet txt. It's low , even for pi.mobi standards lol. It's not even a cipher . So gtfo with the fakes.
I mean seriously :

You are a law unto yourself
Each intelligence is
holy. impose nothing on other
send us your answer

That's the best you got?

>>17886484
I also think so.I discounted that Onion for the exact same reason. So now we will get a bunch of copycat fake Pi Mobi's. Figures,

>>17886484
I hereon announce that if NO PGP = NO CICADA
then NO MOBI = ....NO MOBI
XDD

>>17886492
Heron? Is that a bird?
I hearby announce I will continue to concentrate on the Mobi puzzle and ignore the FAKES!

Two solvers decided to create the fake one.
You all know their names.
They are jealous if all the attention Mobi is getting
I know you all dont respect Zeroes, but he is right.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvwAl4uKIM

>>17886508
He said "hereon" not "heron"
And it's "hereby" not "hearby" , you illiterate.

>>17886538
K zero , gtfo with your fucking fake advertising.

>>17886538
are you sockpuppeting again zero

nobody cares about your videos lol

>>17886573
Seriously that nigga will just drop the link in every possible occasion. Lol - Pi.mobi update - Zero drops a link , somebody saying hello - Zero drops a link , somebody dies - he drops a link and blames Brotherbox and Nox Populi. Seriously Zero gtf back to playing Dark Souls or something.

Hereby./Hearby.
That was Zeroes or someone playing a joke.
Why does it come down to Zeroes pushing his vids and Brotherbox and his buddies pushing PGP? It would be nice to get rid of both those guys. Sick of the dog whistling.

>>17886599
Can you blame them for "pushing" PGP , though? How else are you gonna establish that something is legitimate?
I know I know , the youtube video .....

Zeroes, Brotherbox, Arealys, locked in mortal combat, till the end of time, or the end of their high school years.We should create a ARG and make a movie called The Epic TrollMasters

>>17886599
Zero, I know its you. Hush Hush is that other youtube channel you have. Stop the stupid sockpuppeting, you are making yourself look even more ridiculous than your videos and the mask do.

14071789 is the correct 8digitdate.

Cicada still uses PGP, at least on twitter, but they have to use none PGP clues on Youtube. Its the nature of the platform. I do not buy this latest fake onion, but the 314 video convinced me of the connection.Just the title alone, Found, did it,

>>17886627
And you established this how?
Proof or gtfo ple.

>>17886627
That is the correct date, However hush hush is not zeroes. probably a GF.
Here is her twitter. Nice pic. https://twitter.com/Seelea_HushHush

>>17886650
trust me on on this, i *know* Hush Hush is Zero. He comments on his own videos under Hush Hush and Grasp print, another channel of his

>>17886650
Lmao. Zero and a gf . You mean HushHush is his right hand or left hand bruh?

>>17886646
Before he answers, this is my conclusion as well, based on the number being a prime, the word tyranny, and the clues to Bastille.

>>17886652
Ok. I was just guessing.It is pretty funny in the scheme of things tho. He is relentless.

>>17886660
Okay , did you sent a mail tho?

>>17886667
No, but I will.
I was waiting to see what results people got. I know stupid right?

Dose anyone think we should concentrate on Zeroes message?Frist thing I do is check out his new video and lots of people commenting.Brand new comments. Check it out. Zeroes is smart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvwAl4uKIM

>>17886688
Based on this message alone one can come to two conclusions
1. The one posting that fucking link is Zero himself
2. Somebody knows how he misspells -
One word : Dose
That's like a Zero signature. Only he's retarded enough to write that word in that way.

>>17886695
based on his behaviour alone we can deduce a few things
1: only he cares about his videos
2: nobody would even find them interesting if he didnt spam them
3: he likes to be talked about no matter how stupid his shit is
4: he doesnt care how stupid he looks

>>17886681
What do you mean by "results" ? Like replies from them or sth?

>>17886701
Yea, replies. So far nobody posted that they even got a reply. I was hoping someone would. Have you tried emailing them?

>>17886698
That dude suffered a serious asphyxia while recording that video in the mask lol. You can literally hear him struggling and heavily breathing. A new edition of plastic bag challenge.

>>17886698
Well, its 100% Zeroes. He posted new replies within a couple of minutes ago, so its no impostor but the great Zeroes himself LOL.Legend in his own mind. He does have an audience tho. Cant figure out why.Vids are uberlame

Q? What or whom is wind?
Reading the comments on his videos.
Wind is one of his nicks?

Proof. Read his most recent comment, barely a minute old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvwAl4uKIM

>>17886738
wind is a person that was at least orbiting, if not part of the legit cicada. she was in the channels around 2013 and either had enough influence in cicada or did help to design the 2013 puzzles. she talked about folly and wisdom before files with that name appeared in the 2013 iso file.

zero claims she was stalked and harrassed by the solvers, which is of course nonsense

>>17886750
Ok thanks for this. I researched and saw this.
Why was tracking her Ip address? Was that legit? I saw Brotherbox say it did happen.

Ok, sent my email in to them. Lets se if I get a response.I hope they reply soon, b4 the chan goes 404

>>17886829
it was looked at where she connected from, its believed that that was her legit address. it was the only thing available at the time to rule out an impostor (of which there were some). you dont get a name or an address out of it, pretty much only the general area where someone lives. It doesnt give you personally identifying information, those were never public or even used against her.

there was no mocking of her, no harrassment of her and not even animosity. no reason at all to dislike her. in fact i would like to talk to her again. Zero made that shit up wholesale, as he usually does

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>>17886829
>>17886750
Wind was tracked purely for authentication reasons. She didnt have an account on freenode so everyone was able to troll using her nick. Her IP was only way we could know we were talking to real wind. And she was never harassed and nobody was 'hacking' her. She was intelligent but she liked to troll solvers community with vague clues or even short puzzles. She never provided any proofs of being affiliated by 3301, although she claimed she is in contact with them via phone and letters.There are numerous logs of her trolling on wikia, and she didnt mind those logs being published.

Here is one of her cryptic questions:
>Do things left alone and clues never found change over time, or are they simply as static as ends never tied?

>>17886853
Yes and no. Take a look. This is just one paste bin, Admittedly, we did accuse wind of being a troll and we did track IP. Yes, we did mock her, and even believed it was a dude at first. Zeroes may be speaking to her, but we have no way of knowing, cause wind left the building in late 2012.
http://pastebin.com/UTBcVixL

>>17884121
yeah, just trying to find a new ways to play with liber primus. I am no genius, so i just try and try, until there is no many options left...
I have had lots of spare time recently, and this is way to kill time, and maybe learn something too.
Have you found use for the gematria yet?

>>17886910
Not yet. But LP has too many random probables. Could take till we have quantum computing to get the thing decrypted.

>>17886909
i almost guarantee you zero is not speaking to her. we were a dick to her sometimes, but whatever beef there may have been was not enough for anyone to harass her with the permission or blessing of the community leaders at the time.

i doubt anyone is really mad with her about anything in $current_year

Wind was cryptic. Yes, she was tracked to authenticate her. I did not do it, that was BBS and Ill I think. I remember all this, and Mahisha and a bunch of others, like some distant memory. Looking back, 2012 behavior is not 2016 behavior and maybe everyone should not judge wiki so harshly. If wind took it hard, then apologies.

I think Zeroes is talking wit her. Here is why.
You guys say you were dicks to her and tracked her Ip, but that you liked her. She is a chick and that stuff drives em bat shit. Secondly, zeroes cant spell worth shit, but his spelling improves dramatically after he says he has partnered with wind. He drops his mask routine and starts talking all about stalking and IP tracking and none of that is on wiki. It sounds just like a chick. My money is on Wind using Zeroes as her battering ram. Read some of the pastebins and we dudes can duke it out and have a beer later. Chicks sulk and plot. You know the drill. Finally, the arguments Zeroes is suddenly making are clear, and show a linear mind, not one strangled by wearing a mask too tightly.Just listen to his last statement on this video. Pure Wind..cryptic and open to all sorts of interpretation.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHzlEQzK5Rg

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>>17886909
Last time that we have any logs, she was on freenode in 2014 when #cicadsolvers already existed.

http://uncovering-cicada.wikia.com/wiki/Winds_logs_from_16_jan_2014
http://uncovering-cicada.wikia.com/wiki/Winds_logs_from_16-JAn_2014_part_2

>>17886936
She didnt took it hard, she even posted a riddle with broken jpg of oroborus in comments under article about her. And when she was asked if she was OK with logs being posted she said: <Wind> You can collectively choose what to keep of mine or throw, I won't correct any misattributions or provide further explanation that what is necessary.

>>17883694
Critically acclaimed rock-band AFI released an album that day. It only makes sense, anon.

>>17886976
That has to be literally the dumbest , most far fetched conclusion I have ever seen. Are you born this stupid or is there some way to mentally regress like that?
When did his spelling improved dramatically? An hour ago when he still wrote "dose" instead of "does"?
And yeah that video is pure Wind....NOT!
Everybody , even idiots can sound cryptic.
Cryptic =/= make sense so half of the work is actually done before they even open their mouth or write something...

>>17886983
I would say that response is cold, if you ask me.
But thanks for the update. The response she gave deflected any direct answer regarding if she was ok with the logs, but spoke to the caliber of her posts.Wind did seem to have some advanced knowledge and insight into Cicada. Almost like they leaked things to her. That 314 video and mobi could be the same deal.

>>17887093
Maybe Wind is behind Pi.mobi oO

So Hillary goes scott-free and all of America, and much of Europe condemns the US Gov of tyranny.The Bernie and Trump supporters are melding down and the popular word of the day is Tyranny. I will say this. Pi.Mobi seems to anticipate this shit like Nostra. Props. If its an ARG, its an intelligent one.

>>17886538
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvwAl4uKIM
I'm about 110% convinced that Hush Hush is zeroes.

>>17887104
Maybe Wind is behind BOTH Pi.mobi and the 314 video. Maybe Cicada uses her to leak. That brings several theories together nice and neat.

>>17887107
I told you, I *know* its him

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>>17886920
Hehe. There are many things to try indeed.

>>17887114
might be far fetched, but earlier this week i got a pretty good feeling..

see:

>>17869049

>>17887114
I would not doubt it. He rants about Nox Populi being Arealys and Martin being brotherbox. We have known that forever. Maybe its news to Zeroes.He sure acts like its a CNN moment lol.

Wa wa wai wait. Nox Populi, the dude doing the 2012 solvers vids is also Arrealys, the Reddit Modman?

>>17887149
also, notice how Hush Hush leaves the thread after (failing) trying to discredit Zero after shamelessly promoting his videos all throughout this board? Of course every time he gets called out he leaves the thread:
>>17886616 (last poste from him trying to bait that he isn't zeroes, after no one responded he just upped and left)

(if my call out last Thursday was correct, well you can see that he dropped out of the thread). It seems to be a reoccurring pattern. To me it seems that zero thinks he has super good ideas, but since anon doesn't take him seriously he lies about his actual position in the game. It's pretty basic covert narcissistic behavior. ''oh well my lying has a good reason behind it, but these other people that actually solved the game". Dude is just mad because he can't express his ideas in a way that people will take him seriously. Point and case.

>>17887169
he lies about facts too. he really only cares about winding up people (no pun intended) and producing himself. hes simply not honest in the way he handles criticism

its a miracle why anyone watches his video and i believe everyone is sick of him

For the record, and hopefully we can move on, Nox Populi is Areals, Brotherbox is Luce and Martin, and Zeroes is Hush Hush and Tim.
Now that this is clear, can we actually get back to solving the puzzle? Thanks anons.

>>17887187
But people love trolls these days. He has tons of views. People are attracted to useless drama, and junk TV shows . Zeroes once again has injected his junk into the threads. As someone says, if someone dies, zeroes posts, if Brexit happens, Zeroes shows up, if the sun rises, you get the picture.

>>17887192
Pls, isn't the tree image from the onion too big?

>>17887203
you might be interested to know that its plausible to believe he viewbotted at least one of his videos. his cicada interview went from 8k views to 3.5k views at one point. a fall in views usually means that youtube detected counted views to be fake and removed them from the count

its not stupid to say he might have done that to his recent videos too, his statistics show spikes "long" after the initial release and its not a steady climb at all. the point is, its credible he viewbots/buys views/buys subscribers, though him spamming his videos might help him too

>>17887228
Could be. He admitted his" interview" was a "Lark"
But my question is this. How did he seem to know things about Wind he could not find by snooping? I would not put it past him to be hush hush, but i also would not put it past Wind to use him to tweak noses. Just like I do not put it past Nox and BB to use their alias's. After all, what is real on the internets?

>>17887263
everything he says about wind that is true is also on the wiki. i never advocated for those logs to be on there, but now its a public source and a dedicated troll might just have looked through all of that and was smart enough to drop a bit of the less well-known info to make his story seem believable

its in nobodies interest to figure out who is exactly who. people choose their identities in different places for a reason, and as much as zero approaches being the winner in intellectual special olympics, we should not look behind what other people want us to see in terms of identity.

having one identity per medium seems okay to me. what zero does though is a different thing. he has multiple identities in some spaces that all echo each others opinions. nothing like that has ever been said about arealys or brotherbox

as far as i know, and i tend to be informed, wind is long out of the game. at least my informed sources didnt bring her up in like forever

>>17887206
I tired resaving it few times and got even bigger pngs.

Is anyone solving the test?
I'm trying but English is not my native language and these can be confusing.

>>17887276
I agree with you. Those logs do not seem fair.
I also agree with you that there should be one nickname per medium. The problem seems to be on both sides. Nox Populi also has a reddit account by that name, and as you can see from the link. his aletr ego Arealys is in convo with him. https://www.reddit.com/r/cicada/comments/4kbdao/noxpopulis_youtube_series_on_solutions_and/
To be fair, Zeroes also probably did bot drive. he is a narcissist, its clear. But he seems to have some type of following and may be attracting people who may have felt dissed on wiki or the IRC's. I sense Zeroes may have a spectrum disorder, so I go easy on him.However, I do strongly get a sense that wind was upset, or at least put off by some aspects of her interactions with other hunters/solvers. She is another matter all together. A Mother Hubbard figure, ethereal and ephemeral. Not at all challenged. Not at all unaware of who and what she is. Wind always impressed me with her clinical yet poetic nature.

>>17887327
Yes, the word Tyranny.
The word derives from Latin tyrannus, meaning "illegitimate ruler
Its like they knew Hillary would fix the election. Thats two for two with pi mobi. First the whole birdman/airport shit in Istanbul. Now this. Leads em to believe NSA is involved.

>>17887376
I'm lost, I mean test.txt. I dunno wtf u talking about hilary, I'm not even american.

>>17887388
Ok, today our FBI director let Hillary off, after she commited crimes. She may be our next President and we are left with shitty choices in her or Trump. Tyranny is here, in EU, and everywhere else.

>>17876294
Thread got deleted, but here is the link that was posted.
First link: http://expirebox.com/download/73b3663ac6cca871352712dfb3a5b66a.html
re uploaded link: http://expirebox.com/download/06f12394f036b8c5323bc31b1ac5a1fd.html
Apparently It's an SSTV signal. Note that I cannot guarantee the relevancy of this, or even the safety of the files to your computer, on account that I am pussyshit.

>>17887401
and that has to do with this thread because?

>>17887440
because the operative word in the puzzle is tyranny. The messages have been about "obstructing injustice' The central theme being Government is corrupt. Its taken from Blake who said You cannot have Liberty in this world without what you call Moral Virtue, and you cannot have Moral Virtue without the slavery of that half of the human race who hate what you call Moral Virtue.

Well, I blasted Zeroes on his video, and expected him to troll out. He came back with somewhat of a normie response.Maybe he can be reasoned with to make a video where nobody is trashed. I would like to see the whole Brotherbox-Zero skirmish end. We are all better off without drama

ITT: Attention whores argue about who's fake Cicada clone is the most real-like.

>>17887540
PGP Nazi's Arealys and BrotherBox show up and post, showing that any competition drives them nuts.

>>17887579
Zeroes, and areal or whatever your name is, blow..vamoose, take a powder.
Take your drama to a chat room.
Meanwhile, the adults will concentrate on solving.

>>17887437
Whelp, I'm retarded, it's not deleted it's just archived.

Btw I tried messaging protonmail, and it only works with 14071789.
I tried different date formats and 11 of july.

>>17884407
They are called runic. Nothing Celtic about them. Its the same 'text' the vikings used. Pre-catholisism... Pagan if you will.

>>17887785
Correct Shadowwalker.Liber Primus is a book of magick. One must avoid false paths, or "merkstave" meaning dark stick and false road.And studier of proto-Germanic culture would have seen that Cicada 3301 was using "false paths" to indicate how to decode their tome.I am not much of a Cicada researcher, and prefer to stick to dead languages , but I thought some might consider this lead, should it help. Ben.

Yo the e-mail is legit. I got a response yesterday
http://imgur.com/a/n3j29
This is what it said.
Suprisingly ,two of my mates also sent their messages but they had no response. Idk why but I know that their responses were pretty shitty. They don't know shit about functions so their answer was crap ( when we compared) and imo they ignored the assumptions given in the typically logical riddles like the one with the treasure. So the e-mail is legit if anybody wondered.

>>17865267
>SOMETHING ENDS, SOMETHING BEGINS

Witcher reference perhaps?

>>17889254
Yeah There is a pic of naked Yennefer at the end of the puzzle. True story. Confirmed info

>>17889254
Monarchy ends? I mean French Revolution and all

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>>17887540

Has anyone else found the reference to 161967?

If you have then what's the first letter and the other 5 digits?

I've found some other interesting stuff there and am considering sharing.

Ping me here.