Lucifer in Pop Music

Musicians tend to have fringe and unusual interests, and most of these were in passing.

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>>17736046
Just because they do strange things doesn't mean Lucifer controls anything or that demons even exist.

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>>17736050
I kind of agree because minus the music talent I was the same way...

But his record of effortless hits is very interesting given his statement

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>>17736143
but sooooooo many of them all do the SAME strange things. That's across different eras and genres.

That's when I see the truth of it.

>>17736050
because it's noooo good

“You listen to Black Sabbath?” “You must be a Satin worshipper!” How many times did we hear that, back in the seventies and eighties? Many assumed because of the name that the boys from Birmingham were celebrating the joys of selling ones soul to the devil. But if one listens and reads the lyrics, you find that the opposite is true. Upon closer examination, Black Sabbath is actually condemning the very things that they are accused of promoting.

In the late 1960’s, vocalist Ozzy Osbourne, guitarist Tony Iommi, bassist Geezer Bulter, and drummer Bill Ward made a fateful decision. They changed their name from Earth to Black Sabbath, and they decided to play dark music. Ozzy Osbourne says that they used to rehearse near a movie theatre where Boris Karloff’s horror movie “Black Sabbath”, was playing. Ozzy explains “Isn’t it weird that people pay money to get the crap scared out of them. That’s when we decided to play scary music.”

At that time Geezer Butler was big into magic and the new age mystical thing. He had been given a book that was about the occult, and he kept it in a book-case near his bed. Geezer says that one night he was awakened to the sight of a hooded man in a black cloak at the foot of the bed. “I couldn’t see his face.” He said that he watched the man take the occult book out of his bookcase and then he left. Geezer thought it was a dream but “when I got up the next morning, only that book was gone!”

Geezer told Ozzy about the encounter, and Ozzy wrote the lyrics to “Black Sabbath”, the first song on their debut album by the same name. As far music supposedly getting people to worship the devil, Black Sabbath had the opposite effect. When I first heard this song on headphones, IT SACRED THE HELL OUT OF ME!

>>17736172
yeah, and many millions of muslims have done the same thing for 1600+ years now, too. Still doesn't mean any of it is true.

>>17736181
Geezer reveals “The way I saw it, as far as this occult thing goes, I saw it as a sign that I needed to either get in all the way or get out completely. I choose to get out!”

The song ends with “Satan’s coming round the bend, people running cause they’re scared, the people better go and beware. Oh no, please no!” The song is not about how cool Satan is, but about how it sucks when he comes for you.

Geezer actually wrote most of the lyrics, but on this one Ozzy set the tone for Black Sabbath as a band that guides the listener through the world’ battle between good and evil.

From the same album, “The Wizard” describes a magical stranger that comes to save the people from harm. “Evil power, disappears, everyone’s happy when the Wizard is near” and “all th people give a happy sigh” demonstrate Black Sabbath’s perspective. There are powerfully bad forces at work in the universe, and it takes even stronger forces to dispel that evil, and that the evil must always be confronted.

The next song “Behind the Wall of Sleep” also frames this struggle, ending with “Now from darkness there comes light, Wall of Sleep is cool and bright. Wall of Sleep is lying broken.” Once again, the people are delivered from suffering in the world of Sabbath.

Geezer wrote N.I.B. is about Satan falling in love with a human woman and changing, becoming a good person. That may sound weird to many, but it is a nice thought.

“Wicked World” a song that laments the blight of the less fortunate with “People where on earth are dying of all these diseases”, rounds out an album that throughout engage the subject of morality and humanity’s value with their driving flowing dark brew of well-played music.

>>17736184
Their second album Paranoid continues this theme, with the song “”War Pigs” denouncing the horrors of war with “Hand of God has struck the hour.” and “on their knees the War Pigs crawling, begging mercy for their sins, Satan laughing spreads his wings. O Lord Yeah!” Electric Funeral issues a similar warning to the despots with “Evil souls fall to Hell, ever trapped in burning cells.”

Off course I don’t think Black Sabbath is a Christian rock band in the conventional sense of the word. But most who decried them as a group that promoted Satan obviously didn’t actually listen or read these lyrics.

And that is a problem that applies to many situations today.

>>17736046
None of the things you mentioned are actually Luciferian. Nice biases. Most of the musicians don't even know shit about the occult. So we can just chalk it up to probability unless you can correctly demonstrate that "Lucifer" gave them talents.

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>>17736188
Why do they all do this?

The single eye is to represent Lucifer.

He doesn't give them "talent"

They channel songs from Lucifer and his Fallen Angels

>>17736198
>The single eye is to represent Lucifer.

That's a sweeping assertion and you know it.

>>17736188
>Most of the musicians don't even know shit about the occult.

I kind of doubt that. I'm not somebody who thinks "Oh shit, occultist Luciferian illuminati" every time I see a pyramid on an album cover. But to think that most musicians are not familiar with the occult is a bit naive.

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>>17736184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHcSssbUBkU

>>17736046

I'm not sure why Daryl Hall being into the occult would be shocking. If you really want to believe in this conspiracy theory (and I'm iffy on it), it'd make more sense for Lucifer to use pop music than heavy metal. Using 80s music as an example, obviously Hall & Oats sold a lot more records than Venom or Mercyful Fate. If there was a Satanic conspiracy afloat, it only makes sense H&O would be the one the conspirators used.

>>17736204
>But to think that most musicians are not familiar with the occult is a bit naive.

Prove it that they're familiar beyond "ahh let's put the spooky eye to lure the retards" level. Everyone knows that one.

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>>17736200
Please give me some alternatives as to why all of these artists do this?

>>17736181
>>17736184
>>17736185
wisdom
as a metal head-i thank you for your knowledge and explaination so that others may know the truth

>>17736046
itt, people believe lucifer exists, even though it's 2016

>>17736213
To get attention, they know it's gonna get people like you riled up. Bad press is better than no press.

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>>17736226
It's not that. They have been doing this long before people realized.

Plus very few people react and make a big story of it.

It's an insiders thing.

>>17736211
pretty sure that in hell hall and oats is on an eternal loop

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>>17736224
He does Sir.

Your whole reality is a distorted illusion courtesy of him...

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I mean this is an industry magazine not for "shock"

>>17736229
That doesn't mean Lucifer or demons are even real.

>>17736226
>it just a coincidence brooo!

>>17736254
That doesn't mean they're worshiping "The Devil."

>>17736245
I don't get how people put blind faith in believing aliens are real without proof but then get triggered when people believe in ghosts or the devil.

>>17736046
Lucifer runs a nightclub in L.A. and plays a little piano. That's hardly "controlling the music industry".

>>17736046
Pentatonic scales lads.
Rythmes and stuffs.

>>17736262
some people deals with him
they need to shill

>>17736265
Faggot just played the same three songs, glad his place burned down.

>>17736262
Except I don't believe in aliens.

Y'all haters corny with that Illuminati mess.

>>17736245
Why do people resist believing in Lucifer

People have recorded experiences with him for centuries.

And we see it with these artists now.

You guys are contrarian for it's own sake

>>17736314
Because none of the shit is real. Who says you can trust personal experiences? I'm sure people have recorded experiences with Zeus and gods of that nature, that doesn't mean they're real.

>>17736046
Funny that nothing in that quote mentions Lucifer at all.

>>17736198
the single eye is eye of horus.

The Eye of Horus is an ancient Egyptian symbol of protection, royal power and good health. The eye is personified in the goddess Wadjet (also written as Wedjat,[1][2][3] or "Udjat",[4] Uadjet, Wedjoyet, Edjo or Uto[5]). The Eye of Horus is similar to the Eye of Ra, which belongs to a different god, Ra, but represents many of the same concepts.

The name Wadjet is derived from "wadj" meaning "green", hence "the green one", and was known to the Greeks and Romans as "uraeus" from the Egyptian "iaret" meaning "risen one" from the image of a cobra rising up in protection.[6] Wadjet was one of the earliest of Egyptian deities who later became associated with other goddesses such as Bast, Sekhmet, Mut, and Hathor. She was the tutelary deity of Lower Egypt and the major Delta shrine the "per-nu" was under her protection.[6] Hathor is also depicted with this eye.[7]

Funerary amulets were often made in the shape of the Eye of Horus. The Wadjet or Eye of Horus is "the central element" of seven "gold, faience, carnelian and lapis lazuli" bracelets found on the mummy of Shoshenq II.[3] The Wedjat "was intended to protect the pharaoh [here] in the afterlife"[3] and to ward off evil. Ancient Egyptian and Middle-Eastern sailors would frequently paint the symbol on the bow of their vessel to ensure safe sea travel.[8]

>>17736213
The Eye of Horus is an ancient Egyptian symbol of protection, royal power and good health. The eye is personified in the goddess Wadjet (also written as Wedjat,[1][2][3] or "Udjat",[4] Uadjet, Wedjoyet, Edjo or Uto[5]). The Eye of Horus is similar to the Eye of Ra, which belongs to a different god, Ra, but represents many of the same concepts.

The name Wadjet is derived from "wadj" meaning "green", hence "the green one", and was known to the Greeks and Romans as "uraeus" from the Egyptian "iaret" meaning "risen one" from the image of a cobra rising up in protection.[6] Wadjet was one of the earliest of Egyptian deities who later became associated with other goddesses such as Bast, Sekhmet, Mut, and Hathor. She was the tutelary deity of Lower Egypt and the major Delta shrine the "per-nu" was under her protection.[6] Hathor is also depicted with this eye.[7]

Funerary amulets were often made in the shape of the Eye of Horus. The Wadjet or Eye of Horus is "the central element" of seven "gold, faience, carnelian and lapis lazuli" bracelets found on the mummy of Shoshenq II.[3] The Wedjat "was intended to protect the pharaoh [here] in the afterlife"[3] and to ward off evil. Ancient Egyptian and Middle-Eastern sailors would frequently paint the symbol on the bow of their vessel to ensure safe sea travel.[8]

>>17736326
ZEUS WILL SMITE YOU FUCKING HERETIC!!!

>>17736314
It's not a single person it's a type of person.

Buddha is a lucifer who cast himself out of heaven even

>>17736368
Egyptian Gods and goddesses are Fallen Angels

Led by Lucifer

See how it works?

>>17736326
All different centuries nobodies right?

Come now anon

>>17736385
Yeah but can you explain the abrahamic religions of ancient Sumeria and the far east? Are they all just lucifer and fallen angels according to you?

Did your dad beat you with a bible?

>>17736400
>abrahamic religions of ancient Sumeria and the far east?
what? moloch and all those? demons
it's clear as water my friend

too bad you cant see it

>>17736409
This guy gets it!!!

>>17736394
No, you can't trust anecdotes not because they're nobodies but because you don't know if they're being delusional. Anecdotes aren't reliable.

>>17736448
so we go burn ours history books, right

>>17736462
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>17736495
He's saying if we can't trust anyone else who has experience in the past how can we know anything

>>17736495
history is made by anecdotes, speeches, records, how can you trust those?

>>17736559
History isn't a scientific claim.

can never go wrong with G59

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS2wX8KWhNQ

>>17736620
also, should prob link this aswell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ugrcUpapE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuTFMV2iZo

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The music industry is directly led by lucifer.
There is no question to it.

>>17736730
How do you know? Based on some questionable evidence and some claims that you think are true?

>>17736760
No, actually.

>>17736760
Not that anon but,
1. All evidence is questionable but not all evidence is equally questionable.
2. There's a fool born every minute. Someone will think any given claim is true at some point.

>>17736262
>>17736262
When did I say I believe in aliens? Anyway it's probably because much of the modern concept of the devil comes from Milton and Dante, not scripture, but so many people seem to take bible fanfic as legit theology.

Also Lucifer isn't the devil and it isn't a prometheus figure. It isn't even used as a proper name in the bible, it's used as a metaphor (the word actualy means morning star) in a story about a hubristic Babylonian king.

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>>17736046
Who is this Lucifer gentleman you speak of? Is he some record producer I've never heard of? Sounds pretty groovy baby.

I control them with magic of geass on all people your minds are coned to be compatible with me your God. The people will ever more sing me more and more praises, I will create Paradise. MY ETERNAL JOURNEY WITH A COMPLETELY FUTANARI EXISTENCE AS I YOUR GOD RA LUCIFER. 666 AND MY NUBILE DICKGIRL SLAVE. I own you all, I am your one and only God.

>>17738002
Not mine faggit i'm a self trained demonhunter.

>>17736050
This why I no longer listen to music at all!

daryl hall was.beautiful...

>>17736046
does the gesture with two fingers and thumb up have a name?

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Alguien quiere garbanzos?

>>17736245
kill yourself

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>>17736077
Tha fuk is that picture..?

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>>17736046
Holy Text Website
>www.holytext.org

>Solomon's Key revealed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my62usDz7eA [Embed]

>The King is Coming - Response to Rihanna's ANTI diaRy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGew7WXwELk [Embed]

>The King is Coming II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqysfg0mnDE [Embed]

The Grand Plan and Final Deception of Lucifer (preview)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUJJja_Opis [Embed]

Illuminati - 666 signs - Darkness is coming.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inJdxcdZdWI [Embed]

Descent of the Stars
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h8Al2fLgtU [Embed]

My personal testimony.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJeBOfvLGA [Embed]

The Bible way to Heaven. Salvation is simple.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEBz25lGdY [Embed]

The breath of Life: Setting the captives free
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paY4JKNIZ2U [Embed]

Exposing the heresy of Lordship salvation.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVqCKTYwQGk [Embed]

Faith without works is dead – James 2 EXPLAINED
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3QCpp2J5M0 [Embed]

Can you lose your salvation? - Short answer: No.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAY8wLXzLg8 [Embed]

Is the King James Bible the only preserved Word of God? Short answer: Yes.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtI_mVOXbQ [Embed]

Alien Abductions stop by calling out to Jesus.
>www.ce4research.com

>www.satan.io

>http://www.babylonrisingblog.com/

>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5EtLmidKchvadyrEotfENg/videos


Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of Hosts, the whole earth is full of His glory.

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>>17739278
Jesus Christ is God.

>>17739278
WHOA!
BEAST by dre

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>>17739301
Yes sir.

>>17739279
so underground music is really jesus music?

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>>17739301

>>17739188
No, nigga, you kill yourself for believing in invisible beings.

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>>17739314
No it's satanic music.
The only type of songs that I know are 100% Christian and Godly are the psalms in the King James Bible.

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And the Catholic church is not Christian.
It's just calls itself that, it's pagan.

Well if planet is satan then planet is satan

>>17738743
I cant find anything about it...

>>17739316
That image is wromg. It doesnt spell in the name of allah. The first one isnt even arabic.

t. Arab

>>17739458
Really? Let's find out by an ex-terrorist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtquNNEO7Fw

Woops. I guess you were wrong. Practicing taqqiya doesn't work mate.

>>17739322

I tried thinking of the loveliest song I could think of to disprove you, and it was "God Only Knows". Then I remembered the lyrics and realized you may be right.

God only knows what I'd be without you

Without WHO?

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>>17739487
Exactly.
You get a lot of luciferian messages playing those "christian" songs backwards as well.

>>17739487
the most luciferian songs are the most beautiful

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>>17739507
reprobate

any one able to decipher Daryl Halls gestures?

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>>17739698
As above so below.
2 keys in heaven
2 on earth

It's the same nonsense baphomet statues or fake Jesus pictures do etc.

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>>17739698
that hand gesture is a blessing

>>17739722
No it's not.

>>17739698
He is specifically making the sign of the trinity.

>>17739726
It's all about electrical circuitry

Cut a branch at the tip and it is sure to grow sickly, as the electricity cannot discharge properly, as it would through a pointed branch, but instead hits a flat wall and bubbles out as a sickly flame

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>>17739741
You're serious..?
Show me where in the Bible, which should be the FINAL AUTHORITY where Jesus says there is a sign of the trinity...

this is all satanic.

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>>17739750

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>>17739755
Where in the BIBLE. you goat. the catholic church is the whore in the bible.

>>17739750
Through God we may overcome our wickedness,

Through faith we may dispel our desires,

and through the church, we may transcend this banal existence, and do away with the need to eat, to drink, or even to speak

All you need to nourish you is a single bite of bread, and a single sip of wine

Any more than that is gluttony

Any less than that is heavenly

>>17739759
>you goat
I chuckled. I understand what you are saying but the gesture is not specifically from catholics.

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>>17739759
Goats and sheep are the same creature

the males become goats and the females become sheep, but occasionally a male resembles a sheep, and a female resembles a goat
so it was that they removed all the goats, and left only a stark few males, all of which resembled females

So it was that they slaughtered the lamb as soon as it began to act strangely

An old goat is called a ram, who lives a satisfied life, and whose horns continue to grow

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>>17736730
>>17739278
>>17739279
>>17739307
>>17739316
>>17739328
>>17739759

>>17736620
>>17736638

Yes, hip-hop is modern day poetry. This is certainly up there with Baudelaire's Flowers of Evil. No question.

>>17739213
U dont wanna know.

>>17739213
Pagan harvest ritual

>>17739926
>reverse image search
>results for racist lynchings in the south
nice try faggot

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>>17736046
here's a fun pic for Iblis in music in general...
I actually got him to break character on instagram
He puppeteers Kevin Gates body ever since he was killed in a robbery and gave himself a rap career since Satan likes being a rapper

please ignore my idea of only brown people being Jews.. in reality we are all Jews, from white to brown to black, 12 Tribes of Israel, made from clay and black mud (Surah 15:26, 18:50)

the nigger literally confirms that he was alive when the Bible was written, he's 6,000 years old.

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>>17736198

*SPOILER ALERT*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyiWkWcR86I

This person, yes is bad man.I know his work. Takes university computers and attack business. Never see people like this. Ignore . He is animal. will go away

>>17739213
It's /pol/'s great-grandparents

>>17739971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBGpRLjNnzM

God save you. Sincerely. From the depths of my heart, God help your poor addled mind.

>>17736204
>But to think that most musicians are not familiar with the occult is a bit naive.
You have not lived long enough among the normies. You know a thing or two about the occult, I know a thing or two about the occult, and that makes sense since we're both people who hang out on a paranormal forum. A lot of your friends probably also know stuff, as do most of mine, which makes sense for the same reason. Mainstream musicians largely come from the normie hordes, however, and this knowledge among the normies is not common. If I showed one of my office friends the typical Baphomet illustration, they would not be able to put a name to it. They have never in their lives heard the words "As below, so above." A number that would surprise you wouldn't even recognize the name Aleister Crowley. The symbols, phrases, and general idiom that seem like basic common knowledge to us are wholly opaque to most people; and by extension, one can likely also say to most recording artists.

As to the ones who do know these things e.g. Bowie, it can probably be safely said they reference these things for the same reason I screen printed the Eye of Horus onto a T-shirt for myself. Shit looks cool.

>>17739971
please explain more...

>>17739784
No. Separate genera.
http://www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/difference-between-sheep-and-goats.html

belinda carlisle another into the occult

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but I don't get it. I mean, sure there are people within the entertainment industry that worship some kind of left-handed diety. But what does it do if you slap like a pentagram on something or cover one of my eyes in a photoshoot?

Like if I start putting pentagrams on my body in marker, will I suddenly gain power? What purpose do these images serve? I know that the usual response is that "symbolism speaks to the subconscious mind and implants intention," but I must say that when I see a music video, movie, or whatever I don't suddenly want to purchase the product in the movie, worship satan, or anything in between.

That's the one thing I guess I just don't understand about the occult. Like when does it actually produce anything tangible in your life other than a philosophical jerk-off discussion over satanic symbolism? Can anyone point me in the right direction?

>>17740129
DERANGE AND CONFUSE THE POPULACE BY DESTROYING ACCEPTED CHRISTIAN VALUES. A POPULATION UNITED BY COMMON VALUES OF CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A WEAK ENOUGH POPULACE TO ENSLAVE. BOMBARD THEM WITH ENOUGH SYMBOLISM IN THE MASS MEDIA TO MAKE THE PEOPLE WHO REALIZE IT FEEL IMPOTENT.

THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT.

>>17739307
Am i the only one who read wicked?

>>17740139
but even christian imagery does fuck all. Like if I see a cross or a picture of jesus, I don't want to go to church or suddenly become a christian. If I wear a cross am I supposed to gain magical powers or something? That's why I can't follow the occult and religion. It's like you spend so much time with reading, studying and symbolism and it literally does nothing to better your life. Fuck, if I could draw a pentagram on me and become more wealthy, I'd do it in a heartbeat. The same with a cross too.

>>17740078
Satan isn't all powerful and mysterious as some people make him out to be
He is quite literally a tentacle monster that uses sinners and dead bodies as puppets on the earth to enact his own will.
People either sell soul and become controlled by him, giving their power to him as is described in The Revelation 17:13...
Or... his lizard/zombie army attempts to kill you and bring your body back to life with magic - putting his spirit inside of the body - instantly turning it into a faget.

He isn't alone in his pursuit of global domination as Young Thug (the antichrist) attempts to do the same thing, and has probably become worse than Satan at this point.

I'm speaking from experience as they have tried to turn me into a puppet by putting me under and bleeding me out at a hospital.

These niggers are millions of people at this point and plenty of artists in multiple genres - literally taking up space, as they will spy on oppressed artists (via astral projection or remote viewing) and take their content, even their freestyles and steal their lyrics/songs, as they have no talent themselves.

they are quite literally just taking up space on this planet and making it progressively worse

Young Thug told me personally that he aims to destroy the Earth simply for the fact that he wished to be immortal and is now suicidal (he can't kill himself).

>>17740154
seek help

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>>17740158
smoke your crack

>>17736046
I'll give you props for that pun at the end

>>17740167
I am young thug speaking to you from the mouth of the other. I will influence a generation of satanic worshippers through my next multi-platinum record called "Queef Nigga". SKKRRRRTTTTT

>>17740174
brrrp! jit jibeep durp dap *thugspeak intensifies*

>>17740182
no homo we smokin' penises

>>17740076
>As to the ones who do know these things e.g. Bowie, it can probably be safely said they reference these things for the same reason I screen printed the Eye of Horus onto a T-shirt for myself. Shit looks cool.

Except that Bowie had a phase where he was deeply into the occult, and an apparently dark strain of it. The "Thin White Duke" era was pretty dire for him. Though before that, The Man Who Sold The World was dripping with occult references. Obviously those of us who were on /mu/ in January had new threads almost every day on the occult refs in Black Star.

>>17736760
S H I L L S everywhere.

>>17740198
"they are all the same guy"

>>17736185
The demo version of War Pigs was even better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crctR9fTc6Y

>>17740154
>I'm speaking from experience as they have tried to turn me into a puppet by putting me under and bleeding me out at a hospital.
Explain

>>17740263
hospitals and places where blood is taken and drawn are a hotbed for lizards/devils
they need our blood, humans, in order to have energy and keep their bodies alive : the blood is the life.

I was attacked at an emergency room by lizards and forcefully put under with medication, and woke up feeling like shit, dazed and confused, pale, with my veins hardened on my right arm, as if rigor mortis set in

they do this in an attempt to kill you and take your body over - they continually need bodies to have a presence on the earth because their undead spirits cant do shit besides tap on walls and whisper to people lol

they didn't expect me to actually survive the attack, and most people don't

I've met people with similar experiences, even getting drained at the dentists for crying out loud.

It's pretty fucked up.

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>>17740148
The symbols allow the fallen angels more power to enact there will and manifest on this earth.

the true answer

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We are supposed to wish for the redemption of all including the puppet music industry pop stars but I admit it's really hard not to want to see Kanye get what he deserves

>>17740335
You sound fucking stupid.

>>17740399
>2016
>not wanting every producer of popular music on earth to get shot
>yes, every rapper, every singer

>>17740415
No, he called them puppet music industry stars. Puppets of whom?
>Y'all haters corny with that Illuminati mess

Why does Satan and demons in general rock so fucking hard?

>>17740434
I cross the street when I see a spook in my path, so bye.

>>17740454
What the fuck does that even mean, bro?

>>17740494
Stop it you're spooking the shit out of me right now.

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>>17740399
I do>>17740399
not sound like ANYTHING this is writing dumb cock

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In my eyes
Indisposed
In disguise as no one knows
Lies the face
Hides the snake
The son in my disgrace.


Everyone is a pretender.
There is not one person alive who does not serve satan.

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>>17740618
We can bring it on the floor
Never danced like this before
We don't talk about it
Dancing on, do the boogie all night long
Stoned in paradise
Shouldn't talk about it

>>17739307
Mickey got some dope robe and wizard hat. Them shorts too, but the whole wizard thing is even better. I'm a serious magus, but I still like that kind of thing. The real deal is nothing alike, lemme tell you.

>>17739484
That guy is a known liar.

>taqiyah
Only Shia practice this and in life threatening situations only, where it would be expedient to not be known as a Shia. This is usually in countries where the Shia are a minority or not present at all, so it has nothing to do with the whole of mainstream (Sunni) Islam.

>>17739759
The whore of bablyon is jerusalem.

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>>17740274
I work at a hospital, fagotron. My energy is spent trying to prevent you from dying because of some stupid shit you did, not bleed you out for my lizard man army.

Because Lucifer isn't real because the Supernatural is just a meme.
Anyway, the name is of a Greek not, not a Biblical one... that was added after if it was incorrectly translated.

>>17741027
Not that poster, but...
If you work at a hospital and still browse 4chan, then you deserve to be fired for being mentally ill yourself, and for being exceptionally immature.

>>17741033
Are you fucking retarded? I work for a hospital too and I can browse fucking /b/ for all it matters. If you dont like it then when you get cancer dont go to a hospital because "the people there browse 4chan".

>>17741033
Stop projecting so hard, cucklord.

>>17741036
>I can browse fucking /b/ for all it matters
I don't want immature people pretending to help me.
Just because a corporation and america's academic system says you're not a total immature fuckup means dick to me.

I only wish adults to operate or help me.
Not children.

>>17741040
>Cucklord
This past year that word has been overused and misused.
You're not even using it in the correct way.
Someone would have to cheat, and there isn't anything in these threads that has anything to do with that at all.
>Bet my life you can't even name the 3 most important fallacies to avoid in your line of work
>"Educated"
lol

You're a slogan spewing spazz that randomly screams words in a feverish manner for no reason at all.

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>>17741055

>>17741036
>Browses /x/
>Thinks they're mature and responsible

>>17740005
That's actually pretty sweet.

>>17736385
Shut the fuck up, you stupid fucking bible thumper. Holy shit.

I feel dumber after reading your stupid theories. Not only are you making sweeping rp assertions, but you're also trying to tell off people who are trying to enlighten you. Fuck off and kill yourself.

People like you should be banned from this board.

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>>17738743

>>17740274
Drain your own blood in a tub, you fucking moron.

>>17736182
It's ALL true when you're the only household in the neighborhood that isn't Muslim.

>>17736358
Now, now, lad... >The Eye of Providence

The deeper symbolism should be discovered by those curious enough to teach themselves.

>>17736380
This. "Lucifer" is an archetype (to many folks)...

I also understand that there is "Lucifer" not at all connected to Abrahamic bullshit, or even LaVeyan bullshit.

>>17736609
Also, written only by the victors.

Holy shit. My next album will be titled, "Deus Vultures"

>>17736394
>>17741100
Im here to enlighten them ass munch

they have nothing to offer me

now go tongue you moms cunt

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>>17741536
I appreciated it, yo.

Some people think they like the stimulation of discourse, but really prefer the comfort of echo chambers...

>>17736245
Lucifer and demons are real.

Regards, target of Lucifer's pranks.

>>17741033
he's obviously a devil who is mad that I'm telling people that hospitals are where they like to kill people and keep the bodies nice and clean so they are pretty when they hijack them

>>17741648
Your anecdotes aren't evidence for the existence of a Lucifer or demons.

>>17739213

early photo manipulation

>>17741033
I work at a home for the sick elderly. But it's fine, they leave in body bags pretty regularly from natural causes.

>>17736258
But it also doesn't explain why they do it.

>>17736213
Being edgey is cool. I would know. I own a lot of shirts with pentagrams and such. I even have a shirt with a burning church and upside down crosses staked in the ground outside and it says "Burn the False Gods". My buddies and I even greet each other by pointing horns in each other's direction and hissing

>>17740282
So everytime I rub my eye I'm momentarily giving them power? Lol What if I walk around with my eye covered all day and convince everyone I know to do the same? Will the world fall to ruin? Lol

>>17740494
He called you a nigger, mate

>>17742323
At least until you run into a saint and you develop epilepsy and can no longer go outside during bright sunny days without eye protection

>>17741055
You realize /b/ is browsed by everyone from your doctor to members of your police force, military, national security, and everything below and in between...

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>>17742346
/b/ is browsed by retards.

>>17740076
>>17736204
There was an episode of Joe Rogan's podcast with Everlast (I think it was the first one he was ever on). There was a point in the conversation where Everlast asks Joe if he would like to know who all in the music industry is a witch? Insinuating that there's a shit ton and he was ready to call them out. Joe says no and changes the subject.

I'm still kind of pissed Joe didn't let him speak on it.

Just so you don't waste your time nothing ever comes from it and they don't really talk on the subject.

>>17742359
that sucks...

>>17739759
>implying protestants aren't dirty heretics
Catholicism is the only true christianity

>>17742502
The Vatican is the most evil institution on earth.

>>17742355
Keep telling yourself that. Your lawyer and doctor are likely to browse 4chan just like everyone else

>>17742359
Everlast is a bible thumper, though. Everyone is a witch to you retards

>>17742333
Sounds very autistic. Are there many of those around in our shitty society?

>>17736198
>>17736213
>>17736238
>>17736244
>>17740282
>>17740293
>>17740618

what happens if you close your second eye?
you lose your ability to estimate distances, you lose a dimension, because you need booth eyes for an stereoscopic vision,
it´s a sign for the worshipping people that they are blind for doing so. the worshipper are a dimension under the entertainer/star. it´s a judging pose, so it´s more dedicated to lucifer than any heavenly deity

>>17736046

> magic and occult is bad
If you really believe that, stop following Abrahamic religions and become an atheist, since all of those religions are based in magical miracles and run by occult priests.

>>17742622
He's actually Muslim though and not really a practicing one, but I'm sure that still fits into your edgy worldview.

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Oh its this thread again.

>>17743218
yuppers...

its very relevant

>>17743256
To what?

>>17743271
to yo mama

>>17743325
That's what I figured.

>>17743328
smart man

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Daryl Hall has an effortless cool..

>>17739717
Finally someone that knows their shit

>>17743859
How do you learn the shit?

thread stilk alive???

>>17739317
Yeah, like air and electricity and shit.

>>17745461
Those things are physical and interact with the physical. You know damn well demons and shit are different.

hey guys whats going on in this thread?

>>17745528
OMG it's the hero!!!

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>>17736213
Maybe they're all pirate fanatics. They cover one eye to symbolize the eye patch commonly worn by pirates. What's the term for a record that outperforms almost every other record? Gold record. What do pirates plunder for? GOLD.

What do rappers celebrate most in the female body? The booty. What do pirates also plunder for? BOOTY.

The Beastie Boys even have a song called Rhymin and Stealin and if you listen closely to the lyrics, it's an homage to pirates everywhere. They also have a song called Professor Booty. Their entire career has been built due to their clandestine connection to pirate and pirate culture.

Even Rihanna is in on it. What does Rihanna start with? That's right. R. And what do pirates say all the time? ARRRRRR.

Wake up sheeple.

>>17745551
It's funny because it's just as valid as their 'logic'.

Lucifer can't control shit because he's a made up being that spawned from oral tradition among goat-fucking, camel-riding sand niggers.

>>17745587
You're a fucking idiot. I think this whole 'musicians are luciferians' thing is stupid but whether or not religious deities are made up they still influence human beings to an amazing degree. Fucking edgy super atheist. Go die in a fire.

>>17736046
i would argue the most creative or visionary ones have all believed in something other than a traditional religious god. there's something there with symbolism, and you can tell they need something more specific to say the least.
it's imagery based and what lucifer represents. if they write the same kinds of songs as others, how they express it won't even be the same. it's much more direct.

If I ever make a good album I'm gonna give you ppl a shout out in the
Album art

>>17745598
they have been they eve influenced hitler and napoleon

>>17745613
great post thanks!

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If any of these were real then why would they even leave any hints to it?

>>17746581
just to fuck with you

>>17736046
All music is Evil. Read 'What's Wrong With Christian Rock?' by Jeff Godwin for the real truth about all kinds of music.

>>17746581
I guess it's a bit like Descartes' Trademark argument.

>>17736046
You're out of touch
I'm out of time
But I'm out of my head when Satan's not around...

>>17736730
Yeshua means HE IS (implied who) SAVES

Yahweh or Yehovah means HE IS.

This picture is heresy and has no understanding of OT prophecy or Hebrew.

>>17745598
If something isn't fucking real it can't influence you, you down syndrome piece of shit.

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>>17746603
Same reason as that Cicada code thingy

O'Brien's opinion on the subject: "Not being totally up to speed on a lot of his [Aquino's] activities, although of course I am familiar with who he is and some of things he was involved with. I don't think it will ever come out, the extent of some of the types of very interesting -for lack of a better term- programs; I don't know what you call them, mythological programming or psychotronic warfare experiments, however you want to politely phrase those activities... [It appears] there is an element in our culture that is very involved in some very ancient practices... And again, this is a subject that a lot of people just don't want to hear about."

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>>17746759

Some of us understand it a little too well, I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eR0DyDg7wQ

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I'm very glad you know about this. But do you know something else? Much of this has been placed in facilities all over the world, in the jungle in the Amazon, in Australia, and other remote places. Eventually, I got assigned, to a deeper and deeper level, and before I was going to be deployed to this place in Australia, they took me into another level of my educational program.' He said, 'You don't really know what's going on.' He explained that he witnessed a Satanic ritual initiation. Those present shared blood and there were sacrifices going on and torture. He was being acculturated to the programs of Satanic worship and Satanic sacrifice and the love of the bloodthirsty killing of innocents. He told us that once he got to that level, he had to take a vow to Lucifer. And he did. This is not the first person who's told me about these programs..."

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Greer has been talking to a lot of people in high places, including friends of Jimmy Carter, members of Bill Clinton's White House staff, CIA director James Woolsey and Lawrence Rockefeller. These men all had come to the conclusion that things were going on above their heads over which they had no control and weren't allowed access. By the mid 1990s, Greer and his team (apparently) had generated a lot of chatter within the halls of Congress and the White House, but nobody in government, including Clinton, decided to push the issue for fear of their lives, and official Congressional hearings were never held, especially not after 9/11. However, recent statements from a researcher named Christopher O'Brien indicate that there actually was some sort of secret inquiry by Congress into this subject. And again, Satanism was not far away.

>>17736046
>How can we deny Lucifer controls the music industry?
Because that which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

>oh no, someone has different beliefs than me, they must automatically be EVIL!
Get the fuck over yourself, you egotistical cockfag

>>17736380
What the fuck are you actually talking about. Lucifer, as a name, means 'bringer of light'. According to christian mythology, he was the lamplighter of god, and beloved of him. When god created light, it was Lucifer who was said to have sprinkled the heavens with stars on his command. Later when god created Adam from clay and breathed life into him, he commanded all of his angels to bow to his new creation, deeming it perfect. Lucifer was prideful, and refused to bow to what he viewed to be a lesser creature - for his disobedience god basically sent him to time out, making him watch over the souls of men who became damned.

I'm not even a fucking monotheist and I know this bullshit, you have no excuse dude

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"I probably shouldn't even say that, because I'll probably just doom myself for any publisher picking it up, but I do have some evidence from law enforcement sources that do validate this particular theory. I can't get too far into it, but I've been told by law enforcement that a part of our government does know that there is a quasi-military group out there that's doing ritual magic involving ritual blood sacrifice, and not only cows; the inference being humans..."

"[This] law enforcement officer, who is an expert in ritual crime, was called to Washington to testify in front of a secret Congressional inquiry group about some sort of group outside of the government but with access to military technology that was doing ritual occult crime. And he, they, mentioned [some] cattle mutilations as one aspect of this crime..."

>>17736198
>The single eye is to represent Lucifer.
>citation needed
>>17736213
>if you can't present an alternative, then I'm automatically right with no good reasoning at all!
this is what you call a "false dichotomy".
>>17736229
>It's not that.
>it's my more complicated version of why
see "Occam's razor"
>>17736265
LUX is an awesome place. Pretty sure the whole "Lucifer" thing is just the owner's gimmick, but damn if he doesn't play up the charming devil angle well.
>>17736385
>Egyptian Gods and goddesses are Fallen Angels
Citation needed, you slanderous cunt.
>>17736409
>anything not my god is demons
>because muh book says so
kill yourself.

>>17740274
holy fuck you are completely delusional. Get some fucking meds for your schizophrenia, you fucking nutjob. You sound like the type of crazy fuck who would let their kid die from something preventable instead of going to the hospital because you believe in faith healing.

actually, don't get help, just fucking kill yourself

>>17746996
Damn my /x/ sense is tingling give us more.

>>17747000
The always on time shill, you are doing your job perfectly, I really hope you are an AI.

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>>17747000

Go fuck yourself with that stupid ass Occums Razon bullshit.

That's retarded and a meaningless concept to me.

Seagull shit means more to me that Occums Razor

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg

They really ought to stop hinting at it. In the age of information technology it's too risky.

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>>17747022
There is something going on here that is dark in the worst sense of the word, that is hidden in the worst sense of the word, and exists like a great pulsating mass at the center of all our lives whether we want to acknowledge it or not. And we have got to confront, and cure this, if we are going to ultimately have a future as a species.
“They” have always known something. From the Egyptians to the Mayans to Templars to Nazis to Bilderbergers. And you? Though you can smell the scented altars, though you can hear the boot heels in the street, though you can almost taste the blood in the air, you’re not supposed to know.

>>17741033
hello Kettle, I'm pot. You're a nigger.

>>17742502
Don't you have some little boys to touch, you filthy fucking kiddy diddler?

>>17747025
How do people take this movie seriously with a guy dressed like this?

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“Electrodes erase and benzos swallow tears/ Me and my demons could learn to like it here

>>17747048
I think he looks cool

>>17739971
lol that's awesome, you got kevin gates to respond to your insane bullshit. 'he was present when those books were written?' that's gnarly.

>>17746957
>citation needed

>>17747022
>Pointing out blatant logical fallacies is only what shills do
>believe my stupid bullshit without any bit of evidence or credibility instead or you're a shill
>>17747025
>I don't have any logical argument
>I'll just attack basic logic itself instead!

Please don't reproduce, there are enough retards in the world as is.

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>>17747048
Man I love this movie so much...it has so much going on.

Nite Owl has a great look!

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>>17746957
>>17746996
It is so far above and so far below that it is everywhere.

Who can say they are free? Who can tell the truth without fear of reprisal? Who will not be silenced? Who knows? Who knows?
Somebody knows. Somebody knows.

There are forces in this world, and if you do things for them, they'll show you things, they'll show you things you wouldn't believe.

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>>17747074
I wish I knew who isn't trapped like a rat on this prison planet matrix

>>17747071
It's a thread about the diabolo in music, seriously what you expected to find?

I don't get you at all, you are on the paranormal board all the non crazies read this and have fun, some topics are on the verge of reality, and some are completly true, but in general we just read this things and cringe, like a sane person should, what we won't do is disregard eveything and start spouting occam's razor BS on here, cause it's clearly not the board for that.

Now you are going to tell me that you don't believe in big foot, and that's just sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bul5Jz8zUgs

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we will delve into the metaphysical and occult aspects of Whitney Houston’s death. This article is a little more advanced than my first article and it is for those that have done at least 1 year of research into the occult and the illuminati doctrine. If you are in doubt or just simply don’t believe that Whitney Houston was sacrificed, then you should stop reading this now.

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In the Music industry, once you take the oath to worship the goat, you are considered a king or queen. Once you sign a major deal, for millions of dollars, you can never blend back into the crown and become a commoner again. This is why the recording artists are paid royalties. If you look up the term royal, it means king.

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In the Secret Society called the Music industry, they have a different religion and way of doing things. It is similar to the ancient religions of Egypt, Babylon, and Sumeria. Within these ancient religions, when one was initiated into kingship or queendom, they had to agree to take part in certain rituals. While I will not go into all of these rituals here, I will say that the initiate has to agree to death. What I mean by this is, once you become a king or queen you can never go back to your old life, there is no looking back. Once initiated, the king or queen then agreed to their life being ritualized all the way up to their death. Their length of life was measured by a test of strength and endurance. The pharaoh’s of Egypt (Tama Re) were tested after so many years in a ritual called the Sed festival. In this ritual the Pharaoh’s strength was tested in many ways. If the pharaoh couldn’t pass this test, he was murdered. These rituals and festivals are still going on today within the music industry and political fields. The people involved in these industries are on a different level, as their beliefs are totally contrary to what the masses believe.

>>17747106
Big foot's more believable than this retarded shit. I'm on the board because I believe in the paranormal. Believing in the paranormal doesn't have to mean automatically believing every single half-baked bullshit conspiracy theory, though, especially when the entire underlying premise is already dubious.

>what we won't do is disregard eveything
Go ahead and believe every bit of bullshit anyone spouts, then. While we're at it, I've got a bridge to sell you.
>occam's razor BS
right, and things like evidence, good reasoning, and skepticism are all bullshit too and to be disregarded as well. You're the ones that are fucking sad.

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>>17747149
Your an angry pathetic little man

And again fuck off with that Occum's Razor crap

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the ritual performed on Whitney Houston was used to steal the energy of the woman. This video can be viewed through my website by visiting the link at the end of this article. The elite are now going after the woman to use her in rituals of sacrifice. Madonna, Nicki Minaj, Whitney Houston, Lady Ga Ga and Blue Ivy, were all used as a part of a ritual to take the woman’s feminine energy and to offer it to these demons that the Elite worship as Gods.

Whitney passed on in Hollywood, California, at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. The term Hollywood translates to Holy Wood. The Holy wood comes from Druid mysticism and deals with fertility. Now Jay Z and Beyonce’s daughter tie into this ritual as well because her name is Blue Ivy. Ivy also deals with fertility, as you will see once you research it. Keep in mind that the pictures of Jay and B’s daughter were held and released days before Whitney’s death. The demon was being conjured, through harnessing the energy of the people. There is a Christmas Carol called “the Holly and the Ivy”, and it was the basis of this ritual. Don’t take my word for it, check it out for yourself.

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The last part to this occult story is very important because it reveals another woman who is involved in this ritual, Queen Elizabeth II. She is called a blue blood and maybe the reason why B and Jay’s daughter is called “Blue.” Queen Elizabeth II is the sovereign and head of the Common Wealth Nations, but she isn’t exempt from having to make offerings to the deities, because this is how they keep their power. John Todd taught that the sovereign Kings and Queens of the Elite are the direct representatives of the demons on earth.

>>17747176
>still no reasonable arguments
>still no citations to all these bullshit claims
>addresses no points
>I'll just repeat myself and claim he's mad

You seem to have something against Occam's razor (with an A, learn to spell you fucking mongloid). Care to explain why you think it's "crap" and "bullshit"?

If there were any credible source or sound reasoning behind this contrived tinfoil hat horse shit, I'd be willing to entertain the thought. So far though, just a lot of claims with 0 substance.

Go on, explain it to me, wise one. Give me something other than "because I say so".

If not, then you fuck off with that "hurr no logic allowed" attitude, you uneducated pleb.

>>17747189
>http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BatDeduction

Your detective skills would make Adam West proud.

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>>17747213
Listen man

I love to argue on here to me it's all in good fun. We all don't know each other.

The reason I don't put stock in "logic" or other nuts and bolts philosophies is that my beliefs are different.

I truly believe that Lucifer has changed and altered our reality to such a gross extent that everything we think we know...is wrong

I can never "prove" this to you. It took many years of studying this and living through the 1980's all the way up until now to really put it all together.

We can go back to hating each other but research rigorously...don't stop.

The truth is more awful than you dare to accept but a diligent seeker will bear fruit.

>>17747300
>Listen man
Listening...
>I love to argue on here to me it's all in good fun.
My confidence in your word is ever growing.
>The reason I don't put stock in "logic" or other nuts and bolts philosophies is that my beliefs are different.
Right, because belief always trumps reason. Look how well that worked out during the dark ages, the inquisition, or any theologically based society. The main point of logic is to make sense of things. If you disregard logic, why not just believe every crazy idea ever, without question? Because that's fucking stupid, that's why. I wouldn't expect you to believe there is a pink elephant in my back yard without good reason.
>I truly believe that Lucifer has changed and altered our reality to such a gross extent that everything we think we know...is wrong
ok, WHY do you believe that? Is there any reason to believe that other than some guy told you so?
>I can never "prove" this to you.
I'm not asking for empirical fucking evidence, just some reasoning that doesn't rely on "because I said so". You know, something that actually makes some gods damned sense.
>It took many years of studying this
studying WHAT? If this is actually something you can fucking study, then give me the fucking source you dodgy loony toon.
>and living through the 1980's all the way up until now to really put it all together.
right, because living through the fucking 80s makes you such a wizened sage, privy to knowledge us "normal" folk don't have access to? And put WHAT all together? I've seen nothing but the biggest stretch of reasoning and tenuous connections, very much like what >>17747222 is getting at.
>We can go back to hating each other
I don't hate you. I hate how deliberately retarded and gullible you seem to be.
>but research rigorously...don't stop.
research. fucking. WHAT? All I've ever seen on this subject is nutjobs making wild, outlandish claims with nothing to back it up other than "BECAUSE I FUCKING SAID SO".

Now you may be wondering who these demons are. The sacrifice rites that the elite are performing are dedicated to the demon Goddess Lilth and the Goddess Ishtar. They refer to these Goddesses as Mother Earth to veil their true names to the commoners. Lilth was the first wife of Adam, according to the Bible, and she came before Eve. Lilth is the handmaiden of the Goddesses Ishtar and Ishtar is considered the queen of the underworld or demons. Another name for Ishtar is NaNa and this is who Rhianna was calling on when she sang the song, “What’s My Name.” This is a example of what I spoke of in the last article about the musicians calling on demons!

>>17747300
>The truth is more awful than you dare to accept but a diligent seeker will bear fruit.
First you disregard the concept of logic completely because "muh beliefs", and expect anyone to believe you know a damn thing about "truth"? Do you fucking listen to yourself?

Gravity is a truth. You know how we figured that out? logic. Nuclear forces is a truth. How did we figure that one out? yup, logic. 1 + 1 = 2. Once again, we know that because logical. fucking. reasoning.

If you want to convince someone that 1 + 1 = 3, you're gonna have to show your fucking work. If you can't do that, go back to fucking middleschool.

>>17747355
Oh look, someone talking out there ass. Get schooled, son.
>Lilth is the handmaiden of the Goddesses Ishtar
wrong. They have nothing to do with each other. cite the source on this, or you are a fucking liar. Give me ONE piece of literary or mythological work that makes any ties between these two.
>Ishtar is considered the queen of the underworld or demons
Also wrong, and a blatant fucking lie. Ishtar is the goddess of fertility, love, war, and sex. Nothing in her mythology relates her in any significant way to the underworld OR demons.
>Another name for Ishtar is NaNa
Oh wow, something that's actually correct
>and this is who Rhianna was calling on when she sang the song, “What’s My Name.”
Even if this is the case, so fucking what? and by that logic, i'm calling on Ishtar every time I call my grandmother "nana".

This is the type of bullshit I hate, you delusional fucktards making shit up out of nowhere and trying to pass it off as "truth". You are a lying piece of shit who doesn't know the first thing about history, religion, or mythology.

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>>17747381
Lucifer taught Jubal the forbidden arts of making music. The strings, the timbrels for percussion, the wood winds out of reeds, and the horns out of metallurgy.

The children of Cain learned the ability to whip people into a frenzy of lust or violence with this knowledge.

A great celebration is a Jubilee

Extreme, unreasonable joy is being jubilant.

Thousands of years later here we are. The musicians channel the songs from the Fallen Angels and demons.

Those symbols are meant to honor Lucifer. The songs we hear today have been played in forms all through the centuries.

As Led Zepplin says the song remains the same.

Now the reason I don't lay it out for you is simple. Your just waiting to respond back retorts, not really sit there and absorb and ponder.

Your ridicule of the 1980's for example. The world I grew up in might as well have been Mars with how different it is in 2016.
Living through it gives one much more context, and discernment about the world today.

The next problem is a deep knowledge of the Bible is absolutely needed. With you though, it will immediately turn into a demand that I "prove" the Bible.

Do you see even on the most rudimentary level how exhausting it would be to lay it all out to you?

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>>17747381
Second...that wasn't me. Conversely, there is nothing for me to "get schooled son" about.

Just using that vernacular makes it clear that you are still looking down the rabbit hole, not actively climbing down to plum the depths.

Because lucfier doesn't exist

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>>17747342

You want the Truth? I'm going to be 100% honest with you. Every single person lives and acts in a mental universe of their own creation; as they say the map is not the territory. Guess what- people live in their own maps.

Science says that objectively there is absolutely no reason to believe in GOD. None at all. Empirical evidence points at this.

The religion the conquered the barbarism of the world says that GOD incarnate, Jesus Christ, came down to Earth so he could tell us to love each other and that if we fuck up, and commit actions that cause horrendous suffering and pain to our fellow sentient beings; that he'll forgive us as long as we're sincere and start walking the right path.

Now there are two possibilities:

1. He really was GOD, and we should listen to him.

2. He was the greatest DECEIVER in human history in that he convinced the greater part of Humanity that GOD loves us and wants us to live in peace with one another- and not live in a survival of the fittest, Dog eat Dog World- despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary (disease, pain, suffering, evolution). In fact one might as go as far as to call him "the one who opposes GOD" because GOD would have created the nature of this violent, power based, torturous reality, and he's telling them that the opposite is the case and that we should live in peace, be productive, and love one another.

Either way- he's the one, or his meme at any rate, that we can thank for most of society living in a map where they believe that GOD wants us to live in peace and harmony with one another. The reason that the vast majority of humanity identify with the "light" part of their personality, and not the dark, violent sociopathic parts of their personality.

That's why he's referred to, even in our modern scientific age, as the "Lightbringer", even though he might have been lying. Because regardless of whether or not he was the Son of GOD the fact is that he is Humanity's Messiah.

well that was a fun read, I'm go watch church now.

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>>17747454

(Continued)
You want the truth? Every single person is free. Free to indulge in the absolute worst acts of barbarism and inhumanity that you can possibly think of. Murder, rape, torture... they're all on the table; and all you have to do is open a history book to see that humanity has absolutely no compunction about utilizing this freedom. Only religion, and specific altruistic religion based on Christian/Egyptian roots stands as a mental obstacle to the view point that it's "bad" or "evil" to do things that are, objectively speaking, beneficial to self and harmful to others. People live in their own maps, and its only soceity handing them maps with religion drawn in that tells them differently then the map reality is handing them.

Now please, tell me, oh wise one; how you would prevent people from exercising the absolute worst parts of their nature if everyone was an atheist? Any convoluted intellectual argument can be easily dismissed in an environment of absolute atheism as "well that's just your opinion MAN" as they proceed to murder, rape, steal as much as they want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIoIOKygOK0

You want the Truth? The reality you live in is utterly fucking terrifying, and it's only thanks to the meme of Jesus Christ that we have some semblance of brotherhood and civil society that isn't based on fear of "Roman" style civil justice.

>>17747428
>Lucifer taught Jubal the forbidden arts of making music.
Citation needed. Genesis 4:21 mentions Jubal as being "father of all who play stringed instruments and pipes", and nothing else. Also, where is it said that making music is a "forbidden art"? This is especially hypocritical seeing as how music is used in just about every church ever to praise the abrahamic god.
>The children of Cain learned the ability to whip people into a frenzy of lust or violence with this knowledge.
k. not even gonna bother trying to find that, Genesis is a clusterfuck as-is. Verse, please?
>A great celebration is a Jubilee. Extreme, unreasonable joy is being jubilant.
so what? what does that have to do with anything?
>The musicians channel the songs from the Fallen Angels and demons.
yeah, so you say. You already lied once, excuse me for not taking your word for it.
>Those symbols are meant to honor Lucifer.
Which symbols? Clarify the subject
>Now the reason I don't lay it out for you is simple. Your just waiting to respond back retorts, not really sit there and absorb and ponder.
No, you won't lay it out because there is nothing to lay out. If you have anything worth consideration, I'm all ears, and have been asking for that from the beginning. All you've been doing is be dodgy about the whole damn thing.
>Your ridicule of the 1980's for example. The world I grew up in might as well have been Mars with how different it is in 2016. Living through it gives one much more context, and discernment about the world today.
I didn't ridicule the 80s, I ridiculed you thinking that living through the 80s is something special. newsflash, mother fucker, I lived through the 80s as well. Not much has changed, actually.

cont.d

>>17747494
david played the sax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM-gZintWDc

>>17747428
>The next problem is a deep knowledge of the Bible is absolutely needed.
Been there, done that. I used to study the bible every day with the intentions of becoming a preacher. The contents of that very book made me dubious after taking a good hard look at it, so then I started to study history and mythology to try and rationalize and explain the inconsistencies, which just further confirmed it to be bullshit for me. Nice off base assumption, though.
>With you though, it will immediately turn into a demand that I "prove" the Bible.
Nah, I'm well aware how much christfags like to shift the burden of proof, so my counter would be to DISPROVE all religious texts that came before it. They were there first, after all.
>Do you see even on the most rudimentary level how exhausting it would be to lay it all out to you?
Why don't you try me?
>>17747447
well excuse me if all you retarded christcucks sound the same. If that wasn't you, then why the fuck are you responding to it? I called out that post for a blatant lie, so why are you responding in their place?

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>>17747494

Music itself is not inherently evil...see you always get ahead of yourself. The type of music that was taught and passed on to Jubal was designed to aid in the orgiastic demon worship of his kin.

As for music being channeled by the "spirits"? That's actually one of the easier subjects to begin your studies.

Begin with Carlos Santana Metatron


I didn't ridicule the 80s, I ridiculed you thinking that living through the 80s is something special. newsflash, mother fucker, I lived through the 80s as well. Not much has changed, actually.

This is why I can't even with you anon.

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because , rap. its so bad its to good for Lucy.

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>>17747512
>The next problem is a deep knowledge of the Bible is absolutely needed.
Been there, done that. I used to study the bible every day with the intentions of becoming a preacher. The contents of that very book made me dubious after taking a good hard look at it, so then I started to study history and mythology to try and rationalize and explain the inconsistencies, which just further confirmed it to be bullshit for me. Nice off base assumption, though.

Fascinating. I did the very same thing and the complete opposite happened. I was able to make 90% of the Bible cohesive and understand what it was telling me.

The older religious texts and myths are easy to explain. The Fallen Angels ruled the Earth for a good while before our Heavenly Father of Lights decided to use the Hebrews to establish the truth.

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>>17741000
niggers rolln over in his grave

>>17747454
>Science says
No it doesn't. Science is a tool and a method. It doesn't "say" or "think" anything.
>there is absolutely no reason to believe in GOD. None at all.
Technically true, but this isn't an argument about the existence of god. Fuck off with your red herring.
>Empirical evidence points at this.
Not really.
>The religion the conquered the barbarism of the world
Delusional. Most of the world barbarism is done in the name of religion, and it has been far from conquered. And yes, I'm familiar already with your fucking religion, I used to believe it myself.
>Now there are two possibilities:
No, this is a false dichotomy. There are endless possibilities and variations that we have no way of knowing for sure. More intellectual dishonesty, why am I not surprised? To be fair, your second option would sound more likely. A little history lesson- one day, a tribe of middle eastern people decided the practice henotheism. They chose their preferred god from a pantheon of many, and worshiped him exclusively. Over time (a long time, btw), they decided to stop recognizing the other gods and literally "demonized" them, and began to claim that all but theirs' are fakes and evil in a "with us or against us" mentality, and made their religion and holy book being an amalgamation of stories, traditions, and beliefs inspired by (and in some cases, blatantly plagiarizing) other cultures and beliefs. THAT'S fucking truth.
>>17747491
Complete bullshit post full of strawmen, red herrings, and more intellectual dishonesty. Christianity didn't invent morality, and it sure as shit hasn't prevented people from doing bad things to others. You also seem to be under the assumption that I'm an atheist. Take off your bias glasses, because the whole world isn't separated into christians and atheists, as much as your simple mind would like that to be.

cont'd.

>>17747491
I won't even trying to bother touching the "atheist have no morals!" claim, since I'm not an atheist, and that argument has been done to death (spoiler, plenty of atheists have morals and don't go around killing and raping each other).
>The reality you live in is utterly fucking terrifying, and it's only thanks to the meme of Jesus Christ that we have some semblance of brotherhood and civil society that isn't based on fear of "Roman" style civil justice.
are... are you TRYING to be ironic? Or do you not see the hypocrisy of this statement? I'm pretty sure threat of eternal torture is much worse than anything the Romans could do even at their worst. Take the damn blinders off.

>>17743801
thats baba booey
noine

>>17747527
>Music itself is not inherently evil...see you always get ahead of yourself.
you LITERALLY called it "the forbidden arts of making music"
>The type of music that was taught and passed on to Jubal...
Still need a source on where you got this information, because Gen 4:21 is the only mention of him, and it doesn't say anything about that.
>Begin with Carlos Santana Metatron
Yeah, he says he channeled and angel for his music. Any reason why I shouldn't just think he's crazy or eccentric? Santana's music is OK, but nothing I would consider "divine" (or satanic, depending on what source/narrative you're going with).
>This is why I can't even with you anon.
Can't even what? Use complete sentences, please. Yeah, technology has changed, what of it? Tastes, fashions, styles, and music has changed, but that's always been going on. It doesn't even take a couple decades to see patterns in trends and popularity among that sort of thing.
>>17747538
>The older religious texts and myths are easy to explain. The Fallen Angels ruled the Earth for a good while before our Heavenly Father of Lights decided to use the Hebrews to establish the truth.
How convenient. If that were the case, how do you know the god you currently worship isn't a fallen angel, and the REAL god has yet to establish the actual truth? How can you know that for sure other than "because the bible says so"? This is the same book that condones rape, slavery, genocide, animal and human sacrifice while threatening unending torture if you don't be his obedient, subservient little bitch. If there's any truth to the bible, I find it more likely that YHWH's the evil one. There have been plenty of gods from other cultures and religions that don't come off as psychotic tyrants, or even demand worship for that matter. I'm sure you explanation sounds nice in your head, but it still comes down to one deity's word vs many others, and in the historical context, yours is the late comer.

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>>17747551

You really don't get it, do you? Either GOD wants us to live in loving peace and harmony and will punish you if you step out of line; or he doesn't give a shit about Justice.

If he doesn't give a shit, then there is no reason to be kind to others, at the expense of self, at all; rationally speaking. If someone put a "hit" out on you, there is NO REASON why I shouldn't kill you for 20 million dollars if someone made the offer if I could get away with it. If rationality is your measure of morality, then murder is completely rational if it benefits you and you can get away with it.

Either Divine Justice exists or not. If it doesn't exist who cares about your long winded intellectual ramblings about right and wrong or your feelings? You'll be dead, and I'll be too rich to care while being surrounded by beautiful materialistic worshiping models and sycophants to care about your OPINIONS on right and wrong.

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>>17747590
I think it was you responding to another anon saying he was wrong to call you an Athiest. What do you believe in?

Santana is the first of many, many musicians that say they channel the spirits or the spirits enter them.

Look this up in context with Michael Jackson, Joni Mitchell, Beyoncé, Nicki Minaj, The Beatles, and so on

I will give this to you. You are an interesting thinker. Could this be like an episode of Family Guy where "God" after "God" appears one after another say "Stop! I'm the real God!"

I don't see in the Bible where Yahweh condones rape or slavery. He also says human sacrifice is abhorrent to him. But muhhh Abraham and Isaac right?

The purpose of that incident was Yahweh foreshadowing the coming and death of Jesus.

Yahweh was sacrificing his own son for us. He wanted Abraham and every generation to understand just how that feels.

Animal sacrifice was necessary because humanity broke Yahweh's law and sinned. The wages of sin is Death. Innocent animals had to be sacrificed to cleanse our sins in those times. Horrible but we did it.

Genocide. Those were orders to wipe out the Nephilim and the genetic seed of the humans mixed with Fallen Angels who fathered children.

That had to be done, Lucifer was trying to get mixed into the human race to thwart Yahweh's plan of redemption and judgement.

If you think back to 1986 and now to 2016, and you truly lived back then like me. I feel you would never make such a statement.

>>17747625
No, you wouldn't. You argue religion with anonymous. You could never be so pragmatic.

Also rationality does not mean automated zero sum responses.
You are a bad person, just accept so god may forgive you.

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>>17747678

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKpFOs-g8VQ

Either Jesus was right, and GOD loves us and wants us to love one another. Or the evil cunts of the world are, and you're a fool for not ignoring your feelings and doing whatever act "the sheep" decry as evil are, if they benefit yourself.

In short; either there is a Just GOD, or you're a fool for not choosing to be a sociopath.

It's either, or.

>>17747638
>What do you believe in?
What does that matter? I'm not the one trying to convince others of what I do or don't believe, I'm asking for what reasoning to believe the outlandish claim of some demonic conspiracy in music, which has still been skirted around. And yes, I'm well aware what musicians say, it goes as far back as the poets and musicians of greece being inspired by the muses. Who fucking cares? That is beside the point. You keep ignoring the question and hand and going off on irrelevant tangents now, and I already know and have addressed the dogmatic spiel in the second half of your post more times than I care to remember.
I'm questioning the tenuous connections being made and assertions that the devil is influencing all of our music, and that there is some vast fucking conspiracy going on with it, but somehow leaves "clues" in the open for anyone to interpret. I've also not seen any address to the blatant falsehoods that I have pointed out either.
>If you think back to 1986 and now to 2016, and you truly lived back then like me. I feel you would never make such a statement.
Well maybe you should pull your own head out of your ass. If you looked at things objectively, you would see that things have only gotten better during that time. Rapes, murders, crime in general, even war casualties have drastically dropped in these few short decades. You only think things are "getting worse" because less people are falling for dogmatic bullshit. Some things that haven't changed? Stupid people asserting stupid things, and thinking if they call it "the truth" enough times, it will become reality.

slow response due to work. cont'd

>>17747625
No, you're the one who doesn't get it you stupid faggot. You are framing it with your own bias from the onset, and creating a false dichotomy, saying "There is only A or B", while ignoring C-Z.
>If he doesn't give a shit, then there is no reason to be kind to others
You mean aside from the fact that we have empathy that makes a person feel good by helping someone else? Or the fact that we've only gotten so far through cooperation and teamwork (civilizations existed long before christianity fyi). Or the fact that we, like many mammals, have adapted to be social creatures in order to better survive, because strength in numbers? You keep trying to put people into these little boxes, when things aren't that simple. You seem to completely ignore the fact that there are kind and generous people who don't give a flying fuck about your god. Is it really kindness when you are being kind of out fear? Maybe, but not nearly as sincere as someone who is kind just because they want to (and the other reasons I just listed).

But look at you, read what you wrote. You're a fucking arrogant sociopath who's more concerned with feeling superior to everyone else, and the only thing reigning YOU in is your fear of daddy. You are strawmanning so hard, the poor farmers will have a corn shortage this year. You're fucking scum, and should remove yourself from the gene pool immediately.
>>17747703
>In short; either there is a Just GOD, or you're a fool for not choosing to be a sociopath.
>It's either, or.
once again, no. It is not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
educate yourself a little.

>>17747625
>doesn't know about the golden rule
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule

Do unto others as you would have them do to you. This is a pretty simple, to the point rule of how to treat people, no religion required.

Would you like to be tortured, murdered, or raped? Would you like someone to take your stuff? No, so you shouldn't do it to others. You bible thumpers don't like this rule because it would also include "Would you like someone else to dictate what you believe? Would you like someone to stone you to death because they don't like where you put your dick? would you want someone to threaten you with torture if you don't do what they tell you? would you want someone to insist that you believe their wild claims without any good reason, and berate you when you question it? would you like someone to tell you that you are a horrible person just for existing, and demand you apologize forever for something you didn't even do?"

The golden rule is great. Too bad it's too simple to build a religion around.

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>>17747912

Other is not self. If all there is is material matter then rationality revolves around self and what benefits self. You completely dodge the issue; why should I follow the Golden Rule? Its more of a Guideline, really, if all you believe in is material reality, or if you believe that GOD doesn't give a fuck about Justice.

If someone offered me 20 million dollars to kill you, it would benefit me immensely. I wouldn't have to work another day in my life. My life would be filled with all the material goods and beauty that money could buy, and if you subscribe to evolutionary theory I would be doing the right thing since I would be able to propagate my seed with many more females then I would be by simply working an honest job.

It's not a false dilemma at all. Someone offers me 20 million dollars to kill you, an innocent, in cold blood. It's an either, or scenario. Either I take the job, or I don't.

Rationally speaking, I should take the job. All your Sophistry is is an attempt to convince yourself and me why I, one with power and motivation, should not do what science, self interest, and rational motivation says I should not do- namely, take advantage of you. The weak.

Either GOD loves and protects the weak; or it's survival of the fittest. You just trying to dodge the issue and pretend that there is some sort of reason to be good when, looking at reality as it actually exists, there isn't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PeyiU3uWJ8

>>17747944
>Other is not self. If all there is is material matter then rationality revolves around self and what benefits self.
wrong. see "Reciprocal altruism". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism
You shouldn't make such bold claims out of ignorance.
>You completely dodge the issue;
hello kettle, I'm pot. You're black.
>why should I follow the Golden Rule?
because it's mutually beneficial to do so. unlike religion, which only benefits the few at the expense and subjugation of others.
Why should I follow the Bible?
>Its more of a Guideline, really, if all you believe in is material reality, or if you believe that GOD doesn't give a fuck about Justice.
All we have are guidelines. Your Bible was just guidelines written down by power hungry men to satisfy themselves and establish the status quo they wanted. Also, if there is a God that created us all, he's not obligated to give a fuck about us.
>If someone offered me 20 million dollars to kill you...
If you need the threat of torture to keep you from doing as such, then that's not morality, that's fear.
>if you subscribe to evolutionary theory I would be doing the right thing
More ignorance. Haven't you wondered why the most successful species are community driven and cooperative? see the link above.
>I would be able to propagate my seed with many more females then I would be by simply working an honest job.
Unless you become a fat fucking slob that no one would want to touch because you were too lazy to earn your keep.
>It's not a false dilemma at all.
>proceeds to compare apples to oranges
You're not too keen on reading comprehension, are you?
>Rationally speaking, I should take the job.
NOW you want to invoke rationality, and on top of that, you do it incorrectly! congratz!

Science doesn't say you SHOULD do anything, you uneducated pleb. It's a tool and a method, it doesn't think, it doesn't say, it doesn't feel, any more than a meter stick does. cont'd.

>>17747944
cont.d

serving self interest alone would make you a sociopath, which has it's place. They either make great leaders (which plays right back into cooperation), or horrible monsters (which gets you kicked out of society).
>namely, take advantage of you. The weak.
How cute. The illiterate fool thinks his crutch makes him strong. Also, nice christian attitude there, you pathetic hypocrite.

>Either GOD loves and protects the weak; or it's survival of the fittest.
Did your so-called GOD protect the children of this faithful family? http://time.com/8750/faith-healing-parents-jailed-after-second-childs-death/
What about these? http://www.masskids.org/index.php/religious-medical-neglect/cases-of-child-deaths
>You just trying to dodge the issue and pretend that there is some sort of reason to be good when, looking at reality as it actually exists, there isn't.
argument from ignorance, and I'm not the one that's dodging anything. Funny how you say "looking at reality as it actually exists", yet seem to heavily imply that evolution isn't actually a thing, when the "reality" is that there is mountains of evidence supporting it. I'm not even disputing the existence of a creator, but if there is one, the only version that makes sense would be the deistic one, completely neutral. I'm disputing your bullshit book, because if you actually read it without your rose-tinted glasses, you see it describes a god that is hypocritical, hateful, narcissistic, egotistical, and a bloodthirsty tyrant that promotes ignorance.

>>17747847
>cont'd
The playing of instrumental music is universally attributed to the “gods.” In Babylonian accounts, Satan came into Genun (Jubal, Jabal, Tubal-Cain, Naamah)and taught them how to play instrumental music, organize choirs, organize dance teams, learn to paint and dress the ladies to make them seductresses in order to lead the Holy Sethites off the Mountain of God and down into the dark valley of celebrative worship. This was the origin of fertility rituals having their second carnation in modern churches.

Weapons and musical instruments gave the Cainite family power to enslave the Sethite family. By improvising and using technology to overcome others, the warriors-musicians treated the weapons and instruments as idols or gods. Later people made the instruments in the form of their idols and women wore tiny instruments as charms. Flutes were decorated with female sexual organs and string instruments still look like the female body

>>17748156
>In Babylonian accounts, Satan came into Genun (Jubal, Jabal, Tubal-Cain, Naamah)and taught them how to play instrumental music
Once again, citation needed. What Babylonian story did this happen in? Because Satan being in anything Babylonian is news to me.

The Pentateuch records how each year on the Day of Atonement a goat would be cast into the wilderness 'for Azazel', carrying on its back the sins of the Jewish people.
Moreover, Azazel, one of the two leaders of the fallen angels, was said to have fostered a race of demons known as the seirim, or 'he-goats'. They are mentioned several times in the Bible and were worshipped and adored by some Jews.
There is even some indication that women actually copulated with these goat-demons, for it states in the Book of Leviticus:


'And they shall no more sacrifice their sacrifices unto the he-goats (seirim), after whom they go a whoring', perhaps a distant echo of the way in which the Watchers had taken wives from among mortal kind.

This clear relationship between the Watchers and he-goats is so strong that it led Hebrew scholar J. T. Milik to conclude that Azazel 'was evidently not a simple he-goat, but a giant who combined goat-like characteristics with those of man'. In other words, he had been a goat-man

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>>17748193
"Jubal, Jabal, Tubal-Cain, and Naamah were known as the four Rawuns (bards) Great explorers, musical enchanters, warrirors and adventueres, the songs of their adventures are the staple of any Moorish courts musician or interpretive dancer. Cursed by Sethu, all of these found their lovely voices changed to whispering, hissing snake-like sibilant sounds.

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>>17748193


"Now the reason for which the children of Jared went down from the Holy mountain, is this, that we will now reveal unto you" (Second Adam and Eve, 19:9).

It all began with the Cainites "leaving the fold" at the top of the mountain and going down to the valleys and river bottoms (Lot's Choice) where the soil was rich and one could gain a livelihood without too much work. Since "an idle hand is the Devil's workshop" the leisure time opened the Cainites up to listening to unholy spirits

The writer proposes to explain how Satan overpowered the children of Jared and chapter twenty explains that his tools were ravishing music, strong drink, and colorful clothing. The Sethites first begin to look with lust, they revolted from the counsel of the wise, they descended into the valley of iniquity, and they could never get back upon the mountain.


Second Adam And Eve CHAP. XX.


Ravishing music; strong drink loosed among the sons of Cain. They don colorful clothing.

The children of Seth look on with longing eyes. They revolt from wise counsel; they descend the mountain into the valley of iniquity. They can not ascend the mountain again.

See Enoch

Satan worked directly with early men and women to seduce them away from the Holy mountain but if his influence was going to spread he would have to recruit disciples and show them how to carry on his work.

"After Cain had gone down to the land of dark soil, and his children had multiplied therein, there was one of them, whose name was Genun, son of Lamech the blind who slew Cain" Second Adam and Eve 20:1

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>>17748193
I'm citing the apocryphal Book of Adam and Eve

"But as to this Genun (Jubal), Satan came into him in his childhood; and he made sundry trumpets and horns, and string instruments, cymbals and psalteries, and lyres and harps, and flutes; and he played on them at all times and at ever hour. -- Second Adam and Eve 20:2

If it hasn't been pointed out this thread is prejudiced.

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"But Genun gathered together companies upon companies, that played on horns (Jubilee) and on all the other instruments we have already mentioned, at the foot of the Holy Mountain and they did so in order that the children of Seth who were on the Holy Mountain should hear it. -- Second Adam and Eve 20:11

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"When, at the end of that year, Genun saw that they were being won over to him little by little, Satan entered into him, and taught him to make dyeing stuffs for garments of divers patterns, and made him understand how to dye crimson and purple and what not. And the sons of Cain who wrought all this, and shone in beauty and gorgeous apparel, gathered together at the foot of the mountain in splendor, with horns and gorgeous dresses, and horse races, committing all manner of abominations." (Second Adam and Eve 20:13-14).

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>>17748407
>I'm citing the apocryphal Book of Adam and Eve

Putting the credibility of the source material of Genesis aside. Let's just assume it's 100% accurate (lol). Why exactly would a fan-fiction written in the mid 300s AD by some obscure Syrian deacon have any sort of credibility?

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>>17748064
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Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces. 7Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.…

Proverbs 9:8
Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you, Reprove a wise man and he will love you.

Proverbs 23:9
Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, For he will despise the wisdom of your words.

>>17742359
It's probably because "witches" dont exist and didn't want to talk about something retarded.

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>>17748484
I'm sure they were a lot closer to what actually happened in 300 AD then we are now anon...

You know as well as I do it's not "fan fiction"

It's oral traditions that are hundreds of years old written down

>>17748588
>text from 300 AD
>accurate portrayal of alleged events in 5500 BC

Genesis was written around 1500 BC. Why didn't the rest of the story get written down then? And you honestly think oral tradition can keep a story straight? It's the biggest game of telephone. Besides, the guy who wrote it was an author known for writing biblical exegesis, which is basically rewriting or as we call it today, fan fiction. Please, tell me, who wrote the original Book of Adam and Eve and when? Because as far as I can tell, nothing starts popping any time before then.

>>17739755
>17. shadow clone jutsu

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Gary Glitter with THIS Monster...

Humorous to ser how fumed some folks here get when confronted about their intelligence on the matter at hand. Almost makes me want to believe in shills, due to the arrogant backlashes that contribute no logic (yet those that display none will also project how you do not have any, either). Understand these people and their responses, how asinine it is to laud another in a sea of fools, meanwhile, bringing nothing to the table themselves. But these posters should appear obvious by now.

Derailing, thread sliding, ad hominem. Three main elements here. Quit propagating this idiocy.

Here's my equal contribution - we are all sheds of Lucifer, of Satan, of Jesus, of all the constituents that derive from the universe that birthed us here, separately, to experience its own creation, giving us this body for our eternal soul to use in understanding more. Religion controls, just as government controls. The bible is split with duality everywhere. Politics is done the same way - bipartisan system. Now, we are seeing the rise of 3, of balance, which those in power do not want, for balance gives us a grander understanding of our creation, rather than splitting us in the false dichotomy of heaven and hell. All it does is give the universe more grief and issues to deal with on a grander scale. We are born from darkness into a world of light, of sound, of visions and temperatures. And all but the work of text, translated (who knows really how many mistranslations there has been - just consider the amount already ). The newer ones today even exclude stuff written prior to the KJV or ESV. Look up Bill Donahue on more of this. The bible needs not to be taken literally. After all, it is an object that we observe in this illusion of the universe. Our eyes view the world virtually. Look at concave and convex lenses. The universe that really matters comes from inside of us. The virtual universe is around us. God, who is inside of us all, speaks through us. Remember who you reqlly are.

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The eye at the top of the pyramid is lucifer.

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>>17748756
The shackled unicorn is the son.

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>>17748768
this is it, the apocalypse.

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>>17748750
I knowwwwww riiiigghhht?

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>>17748750
>Politics is done the same way - bipartisan system.

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Do you think the Beatles are satanic?

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>>17748819
Who pushes the sun form sun up to sun down?
The uh Beatles

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>>17748064

No where in your rambling have you stated WHY I shouldn't murder you for 20 million dollars.

The Universe would continue on, only you would be dead and I would be rich.


There is only two theological possibilities philosophically speaking:

1. Evil and suffering is something GOD doesn't care about.

2. GOD is the ultimate Cop, and when you die you face your own personal Judgement Day.

>>17748808
>This message brought to you by idiocracy