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Hey can someone tell me the story about The hole in цapичинa

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Hey can someone tell me the story about The hole in цapичинa
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Bumping.
Post more.
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I can't but maybe someone can
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Bump for interest
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>"цapичинa"
>1 result (0.25 seconds)
:^)
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>>17656047
Learn to read Cyrillic, pleb. It would take you all of about twenty minutes.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%D1%86ap%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BDa&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=Tsarichina
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Im living close to carichina.People say that according to an ancient civilisation the first being that walked on earth is buried in carichina's hole.The hole is now walled in with cement by the bulgarian military.
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>>17656060
I am from Bulgaria i fucking know киpилицa, I wanted to know if some of you know a bit more than what is written on the sites
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Thats really interesting. Have you seen it?
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>>17656184
Responding to you
>>17657207
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>>17657193
>>17657207
No.All I know for it is from friends and an old bulgarian documentary - http://m.vbox7.com/play:806d414395
Къcмeт.
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>>17655447
No, tell us the story of what the fuck is it.
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Bump for interest
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Does anyone have the coordinates?
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Links and pictures cause this is an image board after all.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread296769/pg1
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>>17657371
Me again, look at this.
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=151233
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>>17657411
The page had a Jesse Ventura video, that alone made my day.
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>>17657419
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>>17657422
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I hadn't realized there are any bulgarian /x/philes. Пoздpaви! Also bump for underrated mystery.
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This story is amazing and deserves a final bump before I leave.
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>>17657418
Блaгoдapя
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So what is it?
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>>17657371
Man, I hate to break it to you, but that video has been taken down. Do you have another link?
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>>17658964
It works for me. Here, I found it on youtube too.
https://youtu.be/w1JyEEr1v1U
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>>17658946
Hey, I missed the discussion!
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>>17658946
Bulgarian military dig a big hole, found a weird tomb and those weird incriptions in the tomb.

Weird tall creature in the tomb, run the hell out and sealed the hole with concrete.

That's how far my cyrillic can take me.
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>>17659756
Bump
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The story is basically this. The actual dig definitely happened, that much is beyond question. The rest could be smoke and mirrors.
>Guy has a dream that a medieval bulgarian tzar buried his treasure near this village
>he goes to the ministry of defense and they authorize a dig in days
>a medium comes to the scene claiming she's in contact with aliums
>convinces the general that authorised the dig that there's a tomb underneath the village, containing the corpse of the 1st humanoid (probably the missing link, which is also hermaphrodite)
>for the next 2 years they dig a 165 meter deep hole
>a ufo supposedly lands near the sight and aliums go in the tomb while everyone is instructed to stay inside, even the men in charge
>medium during the 2 years has been getting hieroglyphs from the aliums and has been writing them down
>she gets 1 final communique that they are finally near the tomb
>new government notices the expenses on this project and sends a science team to evaluate
>they shut it down and the hole is closed off with concrete
>files are classified, hieroglyphics are confiscated, ministers and generals involved at the time refuse to talk about it
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I have to say this is pretty interesting and I've never heard about it before
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>>17657411
Where are these from ? Is the source legit and close to the original case ? I don't want to put work on some scams
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>>17661094
I get them from the page I posted, I assume those are the ones the medium drew.

Can we get the name of the medium?

Don't we have a resident Bulgarian to ask this things?
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>>17661185
The story is quite blurry because of bad/weird translating between bulgarian and english but if I've understood correctly the medium who wrote down all this is Elizaveta Loginova
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http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=47471

http://www.miniforum.net/showpost.fcgi?tempid=2&MGID=2912819&page=15

From the second link

Some conclusions: Received writings are young and unknown to the Earthly science.Possibly,they were created for this contact.Age of writings is less than 100 years,(metric measurements mentionned).Contacts began with Kiki,followed by Roro,Sorel,Shield,Supreme Intelligence.There were 4 contectees at the beginning,but after 9 months only Elizaveta Loginova remained.Is that a hazard?-No.The deliberate selection was made.Same goes for a work team.Eli Loginova maintained a daily contact, and when necessary - at any time.When Loginova received informations in Bulgarian,oral or written - she insisted on silence,in order to record a message correctly.When she used an authomatic writing - no silence was required.

I spoked to Elizaveta Loginova 2 years ago. She showed me a whole notebook with the symbols she "received", but didn't allow me to make a scan or photocopy. But I can that I found some similarities to the Sumerian culture.
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>>17656060
No one cares about your shitty slav runes faggot.
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>>17661238
>Some conclusions: Received writings are young and unknown to the Earthly science.Possibly,they were created for this contact.Age of writings is less than 100 years,(metric measurements mentionned).Contacts began with Kiki,followed by Roro,Sorel,Shield,Supreme Intelligence
I can't understand shit here
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>>17661287
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_8d9a711b0101epna.html

http://www.discuss.com.hk/forumdisplay.php?fid=712

I can't understand nothing at all but I'm not complaining cause someone will.
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What . fuck. The.
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>>17662104
Yeah crazy shit.

This is advanced /x/

Low level goons, keep practicing your energy balls.
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>>17661026
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>>17655447
Is there any primary sourced information on this? I might as well be reading fanfictions over here.
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>>17662392
Elizaveta Loginova.

Someone spoked to her in the miniforum thread.

I'm waiting for some Bulgarian or russian to get here and give us more info.
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Like most aliums legends this could very be a cover up for a covert military project gone bad.

The story in the first link here >>17661238 mentions the mysterious death of "sensitive" Maria Naplatanova while working on the project. Govt. claims no connection, and maybe that's a common name, but just googling Naplatanova brings up her name on a list of people working at the LABORATORY PHYSICAL PROBLEMS OF ELECTRON BEAM TECHNOLOGIES

http://www.ie-bas.dir.bg/Departments/Beamtech.htm
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>>17661185
The most important medium is a grandma called Baba Vida. She is the one that predicted the corpse in he hole, by saying "the thing that you will find there is not a man nor a woman" she even predicted where the corpse has been found by saying that they will find it in the 100th meter. The found it on the 99.7th meter or something like that.
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>>17663115

they were going to free something like Black Adam, to destroy AFRICA.
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>>17663433
>Baba Vida

You mean Baba Vanga. Baba Vida is a fortress.

What's your source for her prediction, please?
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>>17663471
Yeah sorry about that, I mixed the two up a bit. http://www.chudesa.net/vanga-slava-sevryukova-vidyaha-carichina/caricina-slava/ Here is the source its in the red text, just scroll down. Right now its pretty late and i need to get up early tomorrow, but bythe afternoon i will be free and i will translate most of it. And if someone can do it earlier the whole thread would be very happy.
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>>17655447
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=151233

This has to be the most bizzare thing that happened in the history of Bulgaria, if not the ET-related topic as a whole
>some random person has a dream that a medieval treasure is hidden there
>he calls his friends in the army
>meanwhile, some extra-sense has dreams that the first human's grave and a portal to a far away star was hidden there
>army suddenly becomes pants on head retarded and sends like a whole engineer company to imvestigate
>start digging a tunnel
>only officers are allowed to dig and it goes slow
>multiple ufos are claimed to have landed/flyed/hovered around the site
>everybody there is scared shitless from multiple ayy lmao occuranses like aliens visiting and everybody waiting in their trailers for the aliens to enter and exit the hole, energy walls appearing in the tunnel etc.
>after 3 years they are finally told they're retarded by a government commission and the funding was cut and the hole sealed with cement to this day
The mindboggling amound of people who observed these things and believe them makes this a quite bizzare incident. My rational side rejects this retarded dig, but my inner /x/phile wants to believe because of the amound of witnesses, including commie-era generals, who were not quite the supersticious type.
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>>17657411
I was searching alphabets that looked similar to the writing.

I got this

http://www.ancientscripts.com/linearb.html

http://www.ancientscripts.com/lineara.html

http://www.ancientscripts.com/bengali.html

http://www.ancientscripts.com/tamil.html

http://www.ancientscripts.com/khmer.html

Baba Vanga was extremely respected behind the iron courtain, and made several accurate predictions.

Any way to confirm that the military made the diggin?
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>>17655447
bump
hope this pans out
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Archaeologyfag here.Those glyphs do look vaguely like proto-Sumerian. Oddly enough someone on Stormfront reported on something similar that appeared in Romania... not too far away.

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t430217/

Never heard of that before. Maybe it's connected, who knows. This whole thing is awfully fishy. I've never heard of it before. Thanks /x/.
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>>17662476
anecdote =/= primary source information
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>>17664918
The same goes for all of us or, most of us at least... The story is really interesting and makes is want to believe it.
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>>17657411
>We took a train to get to the place named Kostinbrod
>the road got much worse as we got further from the place
the train road ?

>To get to Carichina we even had to walk three kilometers along a very narrow path on a mountain slope
Kostinbrod is surrounded by farm fieds, go 3km any direction and you end in another town

that story seems quite unreliable
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>>17666269
oops
was for
>>17657418
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>>17665861
Youre retarded. An anecdote is very much able to be used as your primary source of information, its just not concidered a primary source of information of high quality.
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>>17666302
"Yesterday I was fucking your mom and she said aliens circumcised you and put an alien horse dick in your ass as a practical joke."
>This is a primary source of information.
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>>17666856
Be serious there's witness, a documentary (on bulgarian), any source we can get, a lot more than regular /x/ mysteries, a more primary source you could get, will be someone going to tscharina and taking a picture at the concrete filled hole.
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>>17663115
Yeah but if it is her they did say that they've used her before that's why they brought her in.
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>>17666949
Ok, pic related is what the hole looks now (keep in mind this happened 23 years ago, so there is little to show that there was a hole at all)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1JyEEr1v1U
This is an official tv documentary on the subject

Even though the video is in bulgarian and i can't be fucked to write 50min of subtitles those post give a good overview and you can logically piece the visuals
>>17661026
>>17664918
>>17657411
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So instead of investigating, they fucking sealed it off? Why?
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>>17667640
Scared of unleashing the beast within.
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>>17667645
> beast within
There is nothing that humankind can't handle. I mean nothing in that tomb.
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>>17667640

They wasted time and money and resources listening to an old wackadoodle women, they found out there was nothing there and sealed it so people wouldnt go there and explore and hurt themself and sue the ones digging the hole
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>>17667703
That explains it.
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>>17667703
Why seal the hole with concreate and not the same dirt that was digged then? Spending MORE resources on concrete doesn't really make sense if you go with your previous conclusion .
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>>17655447
I know only that the human kind is not evolved enough for this knowledge...aaa I know too the army steals the most of money income to project....
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>>17667584
Thanks for posting the picture.

It's definetly something, so now, we have a story that doesn't makes sense, an unexplained diggin, based only in the reputation of the babushka lady, or so they say.

>>17663115This is always a possibility, army's don't waste money specially in commie countries, that's a lot of vodka that you are not drinking.

Did they found something,anything?

Why did they keep diggin?
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>>17668013
>reputation of the babushka lady
Nope, they started digging way before they went to Vanga. They visited her when the hole was already 99.8m deep and she just fueled the madness.

>that's a lot of vodka that you are not drinking
Money is wasted here all the time. What bothers me the most is that several very high rank military personell (colonel and above) would personally dig 2 years basically by hand for nothing, only fueled by personal initiative. The digging was done exclusivly by "reliable" officers. Bulgaria just isn't the type of country where a person would waste so much time and effort without a clear and present prize.
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>>17668013
>>17668379
I mean that there is a 0% probability of perfectly rational group of around 100 people to ride the loony bandwagon and invest so much effort for 2 years without there being some motivational "occurrence" along the way to hype up the dig like the reportet ufo sightings (not only by the military, but by civilians too).

This, or the americans were playing with MK Ultra on unsuspecting people for shits and giggles in the early 90s.
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>>17668414
Can we prove that the army was playing with MK Ultra tecnhiques, and some experimental planes?

Were would you put that in the scale of possibly explanations?
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>>17668484
I do use the guided questions a lot...
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>>17668484
I said kind of jokingly. The US had no motivation whatsoever to brainwash irrelevant 2nd world post commie people. It is a theory thrown by some conspiracy theorist here though.
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>>17670681
Well that was harsh. True, but still harsh.
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>>17662357
Ha

Im glad we finally found something x-worthy

Bump
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>>17668414
Is that the dig site?
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>>17670911
Yeah, its a military map cutout. The hole is at precisely 54 1/4 below the 80km sign

Also, apparently google maps cars managed to plow through the muddy roads and get there. Here is street view directly on where the hole was from ~10m away
https://www.google.bg/maps/@42.8911844,23.238368,3a,75y,349.13h,65.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw5LbWERKhu4uatuuIDnIgg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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>>17670944
Is that tower related to the dig at all?
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>>17670951
No, its the electric transformer of the village. Everything to do with the dig was either hauled out or filled with concrete.
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>>17661026
>psychic convinces ruskies to dig for ayys
>no ayy lmaos
>keep digging
>keep digging
>keep digging
>scientists hear about digging and shut it down

Am I right?
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>>17671285
>ruskies
*bulgarians

>Am I right?
yes
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>>17656060
>Tsarichina
No use Cyrillics in Bulgarias. Only Soviet Union. Bulhar no Soviet. Nonono. Bulhar have wonderful pussy, boy and girl!
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>>17671296
Nonono. Bulhar no Soviet. Have clean Westerner bodys like Germanics Jerry or Francoise.
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>>17671296
Defens Ministers Mutafukavski make big propaganda mistake. It a joke see? No thing to see here. But in Sofia we have cleanest prostitutka! You visit Sofia we maidens clean your buttovski!
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>>17671376
>>17671380
>>17671383
Are you feeling ok? Sounds like you're experiencing a heavy metal poisoning.
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>>17657458
>underrated mystery
This is complete fabrication, anybody can see it
It's as plain as day
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>>17661026
This story has so many holes it's crazy
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>>17672221
OK shill
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>>17665428
Are you fucking daft?

Just look at >>17662476 >>17657419 >>17657411

None of these have consistent strokes or repeat loops. Any idiot (even those on /x/) can tell that this is little more than chicken scratches.

For a form of communication, there needs to be consistent, established characters to find definition and in none of those are there a repeated stroke set.

There are a couple hidden dick drawings, but no language structure.
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>>17672221
don't come around here talking all that jazz pal you click post again and with that rubbish and ill flatten you out in a jiffy
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>>17672369
shut up cunt u have no idea what youre talkin about moron
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>>17672416
The characters on those pages go from left to right in a lined structure with a slight drop as it progresses.

There are no significant repeated character groups so its impossible for the language to actually communicate. Take the Voynich Manuscript. The reason it baffles cryptographers is because it has indicators for real language but an unknown characters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

Those things look like dicks, has some sketched characters (rather than a stroke, it was made like a drawing) and even some characters drawn into others.

If these are the ramblings of some alien race trying to communicate, why wouldn't she be given a translation rather than "their" language? If it's some alien language, then why would their written language be in linear form similar to ours? Granted, if some alien language didn't meet our human standard of written communication, than why would it adhere to our standards of lined communication read left to right?

Its slop, any fucker that can actually read would be able to tell that and you're a retard.
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>>17672369
I see at least 3 similar characters...
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>>17667703
>communist state getting sued by a citizen
kek you sure sound retarded m80
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>>17672369
Thank you, somebody finally pointed that out. If they were words/letters there would be repeats, and there's little to none.
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>>17659756
They thought it was Roman ruins and got scared.
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>Bulgaria
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>>17667640
Roman ruina
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>>17673083
I'm don't really think you are wrong, but...

Those are automatic writings done by a medium during trance, when she saw an image of the actual writings and copied them.

If you wanted to copy some of those Brahmi scripts, it could also look like this.

Now these are a lot of ifs

If automatic writings and remote viewing is possible, and if those are actual alien writings.

It could look like that and still be a depiction of an actual lenguague.

I have seen some human writings that look as bad as those. Pic related.

But my best guess is that, this is something else completely and those are just smoke and mirrors, but I have even less proof of that.
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This is just the sort of thing that supposedly happens in Russia all the fucking time. Have you ever read the English language Pravda site? Russians have no journalistic integrity
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>>17668414
Hitler. Lance of Longinus
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>>17673083
look like dicks.... Are you seeing what you want to see?
I agree though. It's a mad women's writtings. What to the shills so long though?
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>>17673876
>http://www.pravdareport.com/
Wow... thanks man...
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>>17674416
That is not far fetched for /x/ standars.
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