Active American Serial Killers thread? the FBI assumes that

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>>17483301
only active? don't exclude my favorite serial killer qt.

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>>17483312
TELL THE JURY THEY'RE WRONG

>>17483301
is the Cambridge Killer involved in the Smiley Face Killer Theory? any /x/rays in the Boston area notice smiley face tags around bodies of water? plz.

Daytona Beach killer

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The Zodiac killer

>>17483647
I think that's a cop doing that.

The .40 Smith and wesson sigma pistol is very popular among law enforcement in Florida

>>17483694

The guys up North have the mafia. Down in FL the police are the mafia.

>>17483301
Only 50? That seems kind of low. I know that the FBI has a whole branch devoted to just watching truck drivers. That makes me think higher than 50.

>>17483694
SW40VE are popular among anyone who can't afford a Sig or a Glock

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>>17483301
The Long Island Serial Killer is active.
Killed 10-17 people and left bodies alongside the Ocean Parkway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island_serial_killer

>>17483694
>>17484047
They think the Long Island Serial Killer could be law enforcement or related to law enforcement, too.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/long-island-serial-killer-cop/story?id=13337371

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island_serial_killer

>>17486047
South Shore BTFO

>>17483474
I used to tag things all the time with smileys, doesnt mean theres a killer around. Last time i was in boston graffiti was tagged over almost weekly in every easy spot.

>>17486674
I'm from long island, and me and my friends were at the pit as we call it (the bike trails on the border of port jefferson station and east setauket) the night before they found a body of a female prostitute cut into pieces and stuffed in garbage bags there.

They found it down a small concrete ledge about 10 feet away from where we were drinking and had our bonfire. I saw it on the news and.. yeah, shit's crazy. They speculate it was the same guy who has been leaving bodies on the south shore, but port jefferson is the north shore. Strange. It fucks me up thinking he could've been there that night while we were hanging out, and we just didn't notice.

>>17487092
Here's the link. It doesn't have much information sadly. http://longisland.news12.com/news/police-human-remains-found-in-e-setauket-1.10105126?pts=348047

>>17486047
I wonder if there are bodies in the ponds or whatever they are near the discovered bodies? Seems weird to put them on land in the same location?
Maybe he wants them to be found and/or is using a boat so hes dumping on the shore so no one realizes?

>>17487092
Spooky af

>>17486047
Is this the case where the local doctor is speculated to have been involved, and one of the sex-worker victims went to a few houses screaming "help, THEY'RE after me?"

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Something bothers me, here... Are you not fans of serial killers? Are you afraid of them, or would you excuse or support or even help them?

If you hate and fear them, why do you spend so much time thinking about them like this? Why make threads about things you hate?

>>17489195
I don't hate them, but I don't idolize them either. They're sick people. They fascinate me, but I wouldn't want to do more than study them from afar.

>>17489195
You can be interested in terrible things without idolizing them, ya know. Are you autistic?

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>>17489208
That's fair. If you have the time, why do you consider them to be sick? It can be difficult to understand someone you can't speak to, but human beings rarely act without a reason. There might be something happening that you don't immediately see.

>>17489220
I didn't mean to be rude. Of course you can be interested in whatever you please; I was just curious as to why you're interested, or if it goes any deeper than interest.

>>17489246
You didn't come across as rude, and I didn't mean to be rude either. I guess it's just the morbidity of it that fascinates me. As a relatively normal person, I just find it interesting how some human beings can be so twisted and/or broken that they are able to do such awful things to others. I like guro too btw, so keep posting those.

>>17489246
are you a serial killer? because you sound like one

>>17489246
Serial killers are all almost certainly anti-social personalities. Anti-social personality disorder is a psychological disorder both genetic and developmental in origin.

Essentially, the emotional capacity of the individual is extremely limited, and they are incapable of meaningful interactions with others in the same way that you are.

>>17489246
My interest in serial killers is comparable to you being curious as to why we're interested in serial killers. Its just wanting to understand the whys.

>>17489294
Why do you say that?

>>17489294
He's Sperg the ripper

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>>17489291
You're probably thinking of it the wrong way. One person is never completely and utterly different from another, so you can probably think of what makes a person a killer.

Maybe anger or fear in sufficient qualities and quantities, or a sense of justice stronger than normal. I'm sure everyone's felt the desire to annihilate everything at the point when their life has been darkest.

>>17489311
Not ALL, of course. It does require a breakdown of empathy on some level, but not necessarily on a genetic or developmental level. It can be enough to simply not think of most people as 'people'.

Someone who kills in the heat of the moment probably isn't feeling empathy in that moment, for sure.

>>17489341
That's very fair to say. I hope you find what you are looking for, and that it benefits you.

>>17489352
Not "thinking of people as 'people'" is the same as not experiencing empathy for another.

Killing in the heat of the moment, while certainly common, is generally only common in developmentally affected killers, whereas genetically produced killers are much more methodical.

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>>17489388
I don't quite understand. What's the exact difference? You don't empathize with cars or cats. If it isn't 'people', then you aren't empathizing with it. Are you saying that the connection returns after all is said and done?

Only the genetic type can keep a level head enough to stay methodical? Can't a methodical killer be trained, such as in the military? Granted, it'd be hard to get away with enough to practice with, but I don't imagine it being impossible...

>>17489388
I would side with other anon in this, empathy is an emotion, people can overpower feelings of empathy by justifying their actions by feeling like they deserved it.
Most people have a moral compass, some of us can choose which way is north and make ourselves believe it enough so it overpowers emotion even though deep down we know it s wrong.
Its like a flow chart but only getting **halfway down even though you know if you keep thinking then youll realize what youre doing is wrong.

*Halfway down being the point that you see others as being less than humans or deserving of atrocious things.
>vets put dogs down everyday dogs can feel emotions and have personalities theres no great line between our species we're all animals anyway.
>she was a hooker nobody will miss her she'd rather be dead than existing the way she does, I'm putting her down, shes suffering.

>>17489246

Spot the homosexually serial killer

So which one were you, your parents didn't hug you or did they hug you too much?

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>>17489574
Not everyone who likes a bit of gore is a serial killer. Ask that guy up there; >>17489291 .

>>17489343
because you keep posting fuckin guro and seem really concerned with how people think about serial killers and why they think about them. plus you sound like a fuckin whackjob.

Holy shit i'm a early 20's white male who goes to harvard... Im fucked!

>>17483301
>early 20's white males


I remember someone here on /x/ who said he was a serial killer and his target where good looking while males. But that's all he said. He said he didn't want to talk about killing

I liked that guy

>>17489476
>>17489574
>>17489599


Wait... This sequence of posts
I've seen this fucking thread before

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>>17489605
You're quoting the wrong person.

Why do I seem like a whackjob?

>>17489628
I haven't. How does it go?

>>17489633
I don't know

I remembet just checking it until these posts then closing the tab and doing something else

>>17483681
that clever motherfucker...

>>17489645
Deja vu? It's nothing unusual.

>>17489633
>Why do I seem like a whackjob

It's the weebshit

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>>17489661
It's just drawings. Guro isn't that unusual. Still, I can stop if you're uncomfortable.

>>17489661
This is a weeb website and a killer thread....

>>17489633
>Why do I seem like a whackjob?


You ask too many questions

>>17483301
>>17486047
>>17486674
>>17487092

Oh hey lookit this! >>17489882 !!!!

>>17489820
>replying to normalfags

>>17489806
Animes don't deserve to be abused like this.

>>17490035
I know this one about people from Missouri being hicks that don't know how to start a new thread.

The Heart, She Holler

>>17489820
>>17489906
hang yourselves

Heads of blonde, heads of black
Once they're off they can't come back
Heads of brown, heads of red
She's even smaller when she's dead

>>17490275
What about heads of white, gray, purple, blue, green, yellow, and orange?

>>17490283
Never seen that.

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Was hanging out in the middle of a forest here in Florida with a couple friends. We walked across a muddy trail and in the middle of the mud was a human skull. What do?

>>17490302
Take the skull and crush the bone into a fine dust. Put your bone dust into a small vial or similar container. Use your dust to share the spirits anguish with others. In their coffee, anguish. On their donut, anguish.

>>17489806
Nah, man keep it rolling.

>>17490317
lol

>>17490317
Lmao dude that made me chuckle

>>17490297
If we're talking about people, go to mall, highschool, skatepark, club, etc. Fucking all the colors of the rainbow.

>>17490317
This is a good idea.

>>17484673
>FBI has a whole branch devoted to just watching truck drivers.
please elaborate

>>17490358
Truck drivers are monitored heavily to limit their ability to engage in illegal activity. Trucking companies keep and share extensive logs including mileage, stops and expenses, weigh station receipts.

In the past America has had a problem with truckers dealing drugs, killing hookers, robbing people, transporting illegal goods.

>>17485308
>Sig
Literally no police officers carry a gun with a safety on duty retard. It's not even in option

>>17490302
It would make a bad-ass ashtray.

>>17490555
>No police weapons have safeties

You fucking what?
Just... what?

>>17490555
I guess when training police learn how to use a pistol, they arnt taught how to put it off safe.

Even the secret service has pistols with safeties, you're retarded, kill yourself.

>>17490264
Nice relevant retort, i know for a fact you will die within 7 years.

>>17490302
Keep it and gain sanctuary knowing you hold the key to both somebodies freedom and a families distraught.
Informing cops would be the morally inclusive course of action though.

Long Island Serial Killer is obviously a human sacrifice/blood orgy ritual abuse type of thing done a by a group of people.

People don't even realize how many groups actively practice that kind of thing. It could be the Process cell rearing its head, Satanists, a Red Lodge or just some bored upper class coven of perverts, you name it.

>>17490685
What's a Process cell? Or a Red Lodge?

>>17490403
Can confirm on the drug dealing bit as far as truckers go. I worked dispatch and was close to our drivers all the time and it wasn't even a huge company. We had one person who got caught because they would routinely park the truck and empty trailer in a lot after making the delivery and before their next pick up and they would always want Cali loads but not for the long haul cash. They would park and walk across the boarder or somehow get into Mexico and spend a few hours there and come back and I don't know exactly how it worked but they got busted in a big drug thing. Also had a whole trailer of drugs seized that was suppose to be empty one time with another driver out to Cali.

>>17489311
No, they're not. Why do you think so many people are like OMG when they find them? Billy John had a normal job, wife, kids, normal life with friends and family and nobody could have guessed he would have ever been a person to cause that. I would say it's more of a 50/50 type deal and not proportionally leaning towards socially troubled people out right, although yes something is not correct in their head some where but they show no outward signs of it half the time. (just guessing at %ages) but serial killers a lot more lately do not conform to the guy living alone in the woods with no friends who puts teeth in their omelette for breakfast and has bodies all over his land and is killing them because they don't appreciate him or their girlfriend dumped them so fuck women or a prostitute insulted them or this that anything. Some people just think it's fun and challenging because honestly normal day to day life now a days is a fucking drag and not a challenge. They have the money, the life but lack excitement and want to feel better about themselves.

>>17490555
I have 6 sigs and not one has a safety you no guns having faggot/ Unless you call not squeezing the trigger a safety

>>17490754
You have no idea what you're talking about. Anti-social personality disorder doesn't mean averse to social interaction, it refers to one's regard or respect for others, their well being, and their usefulness to you. An anti-social personality is destructive and uses others as tools to get what they want.

It almost seems like you think a totally average friendly "good" person could one day get bored and start systematically murdering for entertainment.

Which, if that is what you think.. You're a fucking moron.

>>17490771
Actually you are the moron for thinking that can't happen.

>>17490772
Barring psychological or physical trauma affecting the brain, it can't happen. Without a significant catalytic event or long time psychological deviation, no average joe with a clean psych profile is turning into Ted Bundy.

Find me one serial that fits your description.

>>17490700
The Process was an occult group out of California. Supposedly they were mixed up with Manson, or Manson went to them checked them out and decided to do his own thing. Accused of human sacrifice, I dont think anybody has ever been convicted of group related murder though.

>>17490775
Ted Bundy was sloppy as all fuck all

>>17490555
Why would that be?

>>17490795
Most striker fired handguns do not have "safeties" as what is normally called a safety. Polymer handguns aka glock, xd, most s&w now, some sigs, are all hammerless because they are obviously striker fired. Most of those handguns which are lightweight and hold more than tradition 1911 style hammer guns and in lighter calibers offer what police want in affordability, accuracy and reliability. Most of the aforementioned come with a trigger safety, which looks like a tiny piece of plastic sticking out on the trigger or they have that and a safety on the grip also which has to be held in while you squeeze the trigger. It is to prevent the handgun from firing without intentional aiming and squeezing of the trigger and is very common now. A lot of sigs use double action on their first round to make it harder to squeeze the trigger unintentionally ie while you draw it or this or that. Older guns and hammer style guns use actual safeties usually in the form of a bar safety to keep the hammer from hitting the pin or this or that or they use a safety to block the trigger from being squeezed as in shotguns and rifles mainly. Dunno if this helps you or not

>>17490358
Couple days after the fact but here you go!
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/april/highwayserial_040609

>>17490795
Because if some homeboys are about to riddle your ass with bullets its the last thing you'd want

>>17489195

Being interested in something is reason enough to discuss it.

I'm interested in autism which you seem to know about from personal experience. How are you?

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>>17490317

>on their donut, anguish

>>17486047
>the police use google earth for their imaging

lmao

>>17490963
what are they supposed to do? Take their own satellite photos?

>>17490963
I know right. Why don't they just call the space station and get them to fax a picture from space. Those fucking idiot pigs.

>>17490555
some department require it to have a safety. Sig is very popular among cops and usually one of the top "approved' pistols for them to choose from
Sigmas are for hood rats

>>17483694
FL resident here. I don't think ove ever seen a cop use a Sigma, at least by choice
its almost always glocks, sigs, or berettas

>>17486047
that main suspect killed himself didn't he? We'll probably never find the guy who did it

>>17483301
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Keyes

one of the more recent things ive found. I haven't found any documentaries or anything on him, probably because its so recent

>>17491249
That one is always crazy to me. He his his kit buried in their yard two years prior to going back killing that one couple. He obviously WAS in his right mind in doing so and waiting until the time was absolutely perfect and was not psychotic or anything but premeditated everything.

>>17489388
You're talking out of your ass.

All kinds of "normal" people kill in the heat of the moment. It's called a crime of passion.

Also, they pretty much don't even know which killers were "born that way" and which developed that way so you can't possibly be making accurate statements about which type does which kind of murder.

>>17490640
>morally inclusive

>>>/reddit/

>>17491844
Whats a reddit?

I want to be serial killer, but im afraid i will get caught quickly

>>17491238
Most reports say that he works for law enforcement so he has a slim chance of getting caught.

>>17491609
lol, pretty much all "crimes of passion" involve people who at least have anger issues in the first place. truly normal people do not kill outside of self-defense or war.

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>>17483681
Close.

>>17489599

sexualizing a child stabbing herself with scissors is just as alarming as a serial killer desu

>>17491895
funny that you think it's "normal" to kill during war.

funny that stoning loose women or homosexuals to death used to mean that you were a really good guy, and it doesn't anymore.

funny that you think "truly normal" even exists.

>>17491897
toptoptopkek

>>17490775
Would you call an ape a cannibalistic serial killer like you would a human? Behavior suppression is learned, not guaranteed.

>>17491875
if you make two separate kills, I guess that makes it serial. So just don't dilly dally.

>>17492623
>A serial killer is a person who murders three or more people, usually in service of abnormal psychological gratification, with the murders taking place over more than a month and including a significant break (a "cooling off period") between them.

>>17487346
The bodies were dumped in tall grass, so they were covered up by vegetation fairly quickly. If the bodies were dumped in a lake they would eventually wash up on shore, while the tall grass means that they would have been near invisible unless you were standing right on top of it (or noticed the smell). It was a bit of a gamble since they were so close to the road, but since we haven't arrested anyone yet I'd say that gamble paid off.

>>17491875
>Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.

i believe in your dreams

>>17489432
Cars aren't people. People are people, regardless of how you think of them. If you regard a person in the same way that you regard a car than you have a problem empathizing with people. Its very simple, and the fact that you're having trouble understanding it makes me think you might have trouble empathizing with people. Not trying to sound accusatory, but your posts genuinely make me think that you might have anti social personality disorder.

>>17486695
Kek

It was probably just a bunch of repressed faggots taking their frustration out on a bunch of hookers.

>>17489195
Serial killers are much more frightening than most of the fantasy shit posted here everyday.

Vampires, ghouls and goblins don't exist, hate to burst your bubble but these sick freaks do. They are out there blending in everyday hiding in plain sight waiting and hunting which is scarier than made up stories about innawoods skinwalker nonsense. Real evil.

>>17489291
>I just find it interesting how some human beings can be so twisted and/or broken that they are able to do such awful things to others. I like guro too btw

Am I the only one sensing a bit of a disconnect here? I think it goes a bit deeper than you're letting on m8.

>>17490640
>Keep it and gain sanctuary knowing you hold the key to both somebodies freedom and a families distraught.

> don't tell anybody someone's feelings might get hurt!

You are an absolute raging homosexual extreme leftist tumbltard aren't you?

>>17492936
Please explain why you called him a leftist?

Or are you just typing things that you think sound like insults?

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>>17491897

>>17491885
almost all major serial killer cases say that. Its just the press trying to juice up the story. They say things like "having access to law enforcement" and make it seem like a homicide detective is really the killer like in the movies, when really he could have taken some intro to criminalistics classes or bought a police scanner

>>17490775

Completely agree with you, Anon. All serial killers have anti-social personality disorders of some degree. They lack empathy for other people because the only thing that matters is them.

Ted Bundy is the perfect example. He admitted that when growing up, he didn't see the point of friends and didn't understand why others pursued friendship. Which makes sense only if see people as holding no more value than a bar stool.

Folks w/ anti-social disorders are able to adopt "normal" live, marry, and have children. But they are pretending to feel. Since they've been unable to feel empathy their whole lives, they've had to learn how to pretend really well. However, early signs of the disorder are usually sitting in plain sight in the person's history through things like animal abuse.

I saw others mention earlier how some people can lack empathy for specific cultures, races, or religions. This is true and not actually anti-social disorder. We evolved as social creatures whose primary motivation for empathy was to protect the group with which you identify. So if you find yourself hating specific members of another demographic... congratulations, you are human. And those folks, due to your upbringing and personal experiences, have fallen outside of your "group."

Serial killers have no group. They only empathize with themselves. They are an island. Hence why they can do the things they do.

>>17491897
That's...actually somewhat creepy.

Is there a way to look up where Bernie was during each of the killings?

If it was him I must imagine he's getting a HUGE kick out of being a candidate.

>>17493108
Because he's placing feelings and personal freedom over delivering justice.

Trust me I'm not one to mindlessly hurl meaningless insults at people.

>>17490620
Yea, they switched to guns with safeties after they accidentally'd president Kennedy. True fact bruvs.

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>>17492814
I suppose I don't get it after all. All it takes is for you to think of a person as a non-person and you no longer have to sympathize with it, right?

>>17492884
That's fair. The feeling of seeking something 'real' is fairly normal.

>>17489941
Everything deserves it, everything gets it, and everyone turns around and deals it to someone else. That's just how people are. The desire to cause pain to others is simply normal.

been on a true crime bender as of late.

the scariest is probably the original night stalker.

but since i'm not female, nor a prostitute, i think i'm in the clear from a serial killer statistically speaking.

>>17494284
Careful, now. there's someone in Boston on a "white 20 y.o. male" killing spree. Still hasn't been caught

>>17494139
If its very easy for someone to think of a person as a non-person then they have a problem empathizing. I can't just flip a switch in brain and think of a person as a non-person. Because I'm not a sociopath. Even trained soldiers often have a hard time pulling the trigger in combat because even though the country has condoned their actions its still hard to take another human life.

>All it takes is for you to think of a person as a non-person and you no longer have to sympathize with it, right?

Its not this simple for most people. People who can easily do this have problems sympathizing with people. The fact that this concept is so difficult for you to grasp is troubling.

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>>17494404
Why is it necessarily troubling? The process to think of someone as a non-person doesn't have to be a flip of the switch. Situations of elderly abuse happen all the time because it is difficult to see someone deep in dementia as being a person anymore; they act more like an animal and it forms that way in someone's mind.

Soldiers can be trained to overcome that hard time through drilling. They know to just pull the trigger automatically and not think about it. There are loopholes to bypass empathy.

Walk me through this a bit, if you can? Where has my grasp failed?

According to this thread there's only one fucking active serial killer
>Long Island serial killer

>>17494436
from what i've read and heard, law enforcement keeps it quiet nowadays.


i kinda see why, just look at son of sam and nightstalker. might not want to panic the masses

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>>17494436
Only one that's really gotten any media attention. There's quite a few more that are being investigated but haven't done enough or been public enough to become notable.

Remember that the police and FBI do not like any serial killer becoming famous. The idea of a serial killer as a celebrity has inspired some people to start killing, and it also inspires copycat murders that are distracting and difficult to manage.

>>17492089
Normal is just following the trends and views of your time. Put on your mask and joins us.

>>17494425
>Where has my grasp failed?
it hasn't. he doesn't understand how easy it is to dehumanize other people and how easy it is to hurt or kill someone when you've successfully devalued their life. it is most likely a process and not a flipped switch, like you said. i'm guessing some people start out that way but i don't really know. i know for sure that people can shut off their empathy if they work at it. at least, they can shut it off for long enough to do terrible things.

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>>17493437

>>17494425

You are describing specific instances in which certain groups or actual individuals are dehumanized in the eyes of a perpetrator, which allows for abuse and sometimes murder.

An elderly care nurse or overly burdened family member who begins mistreating their charge through neglect and emotional abuse is not the same sociological disorder required for serial killing.

The process by which soldiers are taught to kill in combat against an enemy is the same sociological disorder required for serial killing.

We are all rigged through evolution to stop empathizing and begin dehumanizing a specific group or individual when it represents a significant threat to oneself or ones community.This allows us to defend ourselves indiscriminately even though we know violence and murder feels wrong. On the opposite side, it stops us from killing coworkers when they annoy us. However, our instincts are imperfect and not always suited for modern life.

An elderly charge who causes extreme anxiety and stress for a caretaker is setting off this instinct falsely. A foreign invader who threatens your life and the stability of your community is setting off this instinct correctly. In fact, your ability to dehumanize and kill in self defense was the whole point of this instinct evolving.

Serial killing is not the same thing. They are not having their threat instinct triggered. There is no instinct to trigger. They are not slowly dehumanizing their victims over time. They are unable to perceive other people as human in the first place. There are no "humans" but themselves, in the traditional sense of the word.

>>17494975

Whoops, typo. The process by which soldiers are taught to kill... is NOT the same sociological disorder required for serial killing.

>>17493437
shooped dumbfuck

>>17489294
I thought the exact same thing.

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>>17493437

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>>17494975
And you are saying that the only way to systematically, methodically kill over a long period of time is genetic sociopathy? There is no sociological or developed psychological disorder to disallow empathy with enough people to kill?

I don't really understand this instinct. Where's the point that it breaks? Posing a significant threat is very much a matter of perspective.

>>17495185

No I never said that. I don't think we fully understand what causes anti-social personality disorders. The closest people seem to theorize is that it's a combination of genetics and trauma during childhood development... the time when we develop the foundations for understanding others as independent beings, in possession of their own thoughts, desires, and feelings.

So no I don't believe all instances of anti -social disorder are purely genetic. However, adults without the messed up genetic profile and/or lacking the childhood developmental stunting, do not spontaneously have a psychotic break and begin serial killing. Even if it appears they do, the foundation had already been set, whether through genes or childhood experience, but never discovered until now. Almost all serial killers have the clues in their background and often reveal the clues themselves in interviews after apprehension.

You are completely correct, the instinct its totally a matter of perspective! One society's norms have different breaking points than others and individuals within each society all have their own breaking points as well.

So while we can debate how military training and propaganda takes advantage of our evolved instinct to dehumanize others, the reality is we have this mode implanted within us as a useful means to cooperate with folks within our own group, look out for each other, and then defend against others at all costs.

But what about someone whose instinct perspective is very skewed in comparison to societal norms? Like for example, a father who feels his life collapsing due to divorce or unemployment and decides to murder his family. His perspective is way off, but it's still his threat instinct that has kicked in. However, even after, he's still unlikely to go on committing prolonged, systematic murder of strangers outside of maybe an immediate "spree" brought on by his break. Even then secondary victims are often other family members or employers.

>>17489208
This

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>>17483301
WTF, I live in Malden and a white guy in his thirties was just found dead in a river nearby after partying.

>>17483301
Jeezum crow I thought Ramirez was supposed to be handsome

>>17495252
>>17483301
AND the article has that kid from my high school too. This shit is freaking me out.

http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/16956215/#16965330

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>>17495240
Getting somewhere! Thank you for your insight. This much I can sort of get, though I still think that human psychology is flexible enough to allow things out of the ordinary to happen, such as your example of the father going on to kill more families, or a serial killer being 'trained' by propaganda or even more direct methods. Even so, perhaps he would need to have some kind of underlying framework to make it possible.

I guess I am that divorced from most people.

You've already picked me out and I'm anonymous enough that I don't care. Yes, I have an empathy disorder that's never been diagnosed. People describe me as being over-polite because that's essentially how I have always gotten by in social situations. It works, and if I get what I want then it's worth the trouble of being a doormat.

That being said, what would you describe me as? That's basically why I've been asking.

>>17495252
massfag here officially spooked

>>17484047
The Mafia is alive and well and has been in Florida for a long time. Tampa was their hub, idk where they are located now. With cuba opening back up, they are gonna be bigger then ever

>>17495258
>>17495259
>>17495274
Remember; 50 serial killers active in the US at any time.

>>17495274
http://malden.wickedlocal.com/article/20160316/NEWS/160316572

IIRC the victim was a murderer himself who killed a local survivor of the marathon bombing. The Greater Boston area has been getting very sketchy lately with gang violence and more random murders.

>>17495290
Glad I'm a Britbong, then. Relativly safe, seems to me most of our notable serial murderers were child killers or target gay men. I'm sure someone will prove me wrong, though.

>>17495303
There are killers everywhere. I imagine that those in Britain use poison in the absence of firearms. You can easily poison somebody by spilling a drink on them; they'll die within the hour if you use the right kind of cyanide.

You can't really hide from it.

>>17495308
Hory sheit they're ebrywhere

>>17495262

theres always that one roleplaying autist in these threads like this faggot

>>17495303
yea I think Harold shipman has the highest count for brits and he killed children mainly

>>17495262

I'm glad you enjoyed the discussion. I did as well. I also want to stress that i'm merely arguing beliefs that I've adopted after reading books on sociology, morality, and unconscious behavior. I decided these thoughts made the most sense and now like to share them whenever an interesting convo pops up around the subject.

I think I picked up the flag for someone else arguing a similar point with you earlier in this thread. I would not have tried to diagnose you as having an anti-social personality disorder and none of your posts set off any significant alarms for me. Even your post about the cars and cats was just misconstrued by other posters.

Honestly my impression was one of someone who was investigating what causes someone to start serial killing and what makes them capable of doing so.

I have to admit that I probably began reading up on them myself because of this same curiosity, though I lack any kind of empathy disorder. There's just a morbid curiosity about you are and are not capable of.

I hope you seek out a proper diagnosis in the future if it is ever something you are interested in or becomes feasible in the future. I assume it would be nice to know more about yourself if you already notice you are different.

At the same time, remember that having an anti-social personality disorder does not mean in anyway that you are prone to the type of behavior discussed in this thread.

While I lack an empathy disorder, I do have the evolved threat instinct that we discussed. And it's my own compass that would prevent me from engaging in the various examples of skewed perspective we talked about.

>>17495326
>talking to yourself on /x/

atleast try to type differently next time you do this

>>17495317
I thought he killed OAP's mainly?! You thinking of Beverly Shallit or someone like that? Preddy sure The Ship mostly killed OAP's....

>>17495331
yea youre right I got them mixed up

>>17495327

I'm very much not the person who has been posting with the anime pics in this thread. But thanks for your opinion!

>>17495336
NP mang

>>17495339
sure thing kid

>>17495316
You could do it yourself if you wanted.

>>17495355
Nah, the thought of killing someone even in self defense freaks me out. Even learning some of the more advanced moved at juijutsu (purple belt here) make me feel weird when thinking about the effects on a person, like "helmet grabs", even the fucking "lion killer" choke and double collar crab from guard, shit like that. But that's why I do it I guess, to get over my fear of violence

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>>17495326
Well, that's good. I like knowing about myself, but I'll figure it out myself. Bringing a psych into it would just complicate things unnecessarily. Some errant thought I had about comparing myself to other people like me sent me on the whole serial killer kick.

I'm not concerned about murder. If I find a good enough reason, sure, but I'm still convinced that anyone would do it if they had a good enough reason. It's fair to say that most people don't end up murdering anyone, even most people with no empathy.

Not all serial killers are anti social nor are all psychopaths serial killers.

It's a meme spread by Hollywood movies where every psychopath and killer has to be this loud obnoxious narcissistic faggot who declares everything before he does it.

A psychopath would rather be that janitor that quietly observes everything, lends a helping hand and strikes when the time is right instead of being a hot shot ceo that acts all awkward and is over the top.

Psychopaths and anti socials don't see a need for friend because they realize that friendship is not really a legitimate concept, neither is love or marriage. The only people who will truly love you are your parents, and even that is not always guaranteed.

I don't think it'd be accurate to blame the anti socials for thinking that friendships aren't real, I myself had a shitty childhood and hence I grew to resent the world and the people in it.

If you look at society without all the emotional baggage, you see how it really works, newton's third law of motion is more accurate than any philosophy or pop psychology articles you'd come across.

Every action has an equal an oposite reaction, one person acts, the other reacts. One businessmen earns a ton of money and trusts his partner with it, the partner sees the naivety of his friend and flees off with the money. The naive is left with his dick in his hands, eventually ruining his relationships with his wife and kids and everyone else. One guys action managed to ruin his entire life.

That is society at large, chain of actions and reactions. The fact is, humans are like animals, they like strong and smart ones, discard weak and pathetic ones. In the end butchering a human is no different than butchering a cow or chicken. Some blood pops out, the animal suffers and then silence.

Ruthlessness is a trait you should certainly adopt if you want to get ahead in life. Although I'll say some of the most kindest people I ever met were also the selfless types.

>>17491609
I'm saying that isn't the psych profile of a serial killer, as that is what this thread is about.

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>>17483301
Any Boston /x/philistines want to meet up?

>>17483474
Never seen any smiley face tags.

>>17495185
this pic is retarded. why does she have intestines coming out of her eyeball? if you're gonna draw the inside of the body on the outside, at least get your anatomy right.

>>17493376
Thank you anon, for a reasonable post in a sea of insecure projection, hollow ridicule and sincere idiocy.

I myself am anti-social personality. While the ignorance doesn't bother me, the refusal to accept the obvious answer to underlying psychological condition of a serial is a bit grating.

I haven't really considered the idea of empathetic killing in the way you described. I do think that someone who would kill (in a way almost FOR their identifying group) is almost killing because of empathy.

I don't have any investment in other humans, so I don't really see a reason to protect or hinder their political or religious ideals for any reason. I'd like to see the silliness of religion done away with, but what can be done.

What you need to keep in mind is that most serial killers are highly functioning anti-social personalities. They don't have the impediment of emotion clouding their mind. Whereas you may think of love, family, social relationships, they only see the situation as it exists. At least to them.

The flip side however, is low functioning anti-social personalities. These are the unintelligent ones. They exist solely to service themselves, and are most often drug addicts, criminals, etc.

>>17495185
Sociopathy is actually a distinction of anti-social personality disorder indicating that their APD is developmental rather than genetic.

>>17495317
>theres always the one roleplaying autist
He just claimed he had an empathy disorder. Even if he had said he was anti-social personality, it isn't the most uncommon thing in the world.

If anyone is an autist it's faggots like you who scream "LOOK AT THIS RP FAGGOT AUTIST" every fifteen seconds to prove that you're super smart internet detective man.

>>17495695
It certainly varies, and emotional dysfunction isn't a unilateral trait of all anti-social personalities. I feel anger and revulsion primarily as an emotional reaction to others, but I don't understand love or longing. The wishes and judgement of others is just a non-issue for me I guess.

In retrospect emotion is the wrong word, emotional involvement may be more accurate.

As far as I know the only way to tell the difference would be to learn about the persons childhood and developmental history.

>>17495621
>>17493376

>>17492620
This guy makes an important point that you've both conveniently ignored.

Someone who finds that their pro-social behavior is not a positive adaptation, or to their own benefit, can shed their empathy, adopt anti-social behaviors and even kill.

You talk about "instincts" or "motivation" but you leave out some important ones. Serial killers achieve a certain type of infamy and immortality. They can live out their fantasies of revenge, even if not always against the people who deserve it. They can prove without a doubt that they are "above" another human being. Those are motivators. Desire for power is a real instinct and in order to achieve it, empathy can be degraded or intellectualized away.

Humans are animals. Social and moral constructs were created to put us in our place because it would be anarchy otherwise. Murder is bad because we've been taught to feel that way and even then, there are "acceptable" forms of killing. You couldn't possibly know how a human would behave under natural circumstances because there is a process of "civilization" from the moment they are born. Every human behavior is carefully crafted and ascribed motivations that go along with society. It doesn't mean this can't be overcome if you recognize the ideas that control your actions and have a strong desire to break free.

You don't need to believe your actions are "right," you just need to stop caring that they're wrong. You've convinced yourselves that this is not possible without a personality disorder and most would conclude that a person like that has a disorder but is it really true? I think it's a simplification that ignores the fact that diagnosis of disorders is another highly relative human interpretation to keep the masses safe.

>>17495732
You're debating the potential to kill and cause harm, and to value one's self above all others isn't related to APD.

Everyone else is debating the relation of the presence of APD to a SERIAL KILLER.

If people had a little reading comprehension this wouldn't happen.

Of course anyone can kill or engage in anti-social behavior, even to the level of a spree killer. This is related to a psychotic break or similar circumstance. A serial killer who engages in prolonged behaviors involving murder, torture, cannibalism, rape, necrophilia, etc. is NOT a minor product of someone psychologically conditioning themselves to become a mass killer.

If someone, as you state, is coveting the idea of "shedding a social adaption and adopting anti-social behaviors", well, that sounds exactly like the type of shit an anti-social personality would do in the first place.

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>>17495722
I guess I just see other people like I see objects or animals. Maybe they can be cute or interesting, but it isn't like I can emotionally connect to them. If they have a problem it's either clinical(Oh, my car's out of gas, that's the issue.) or easy to brush off(Oh, my cat's meowing about nothing.)

About my childhood, I... probably had a lot going on in that head. Was a pretty sickly kid, in and out of hospitals for a few years and a recluse after that. I obtained a real sense of self a lot later than most people.

>>17495732
This is what I'd like to believe, that someone can 'give up' empathy. It sort of tilts me that most people can't, like it's some compulsion they can't control.

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>>17483474
>>17486741
Boston people are the biggest fags.

Pic related: The most terrifying attack on boston of all timr

>>17495573
No, you were saying that there's some difference in the behaviors between a "genetically produced killer" and a "developmentally affected" killer and I'm telling you that's bullshit. There is no true definition that separates these two and in most cases we can't even know whether someone was born into killing or became a killer because of their environment. You pretend it's known science but it's just something you made up.

>>17495637
>>17495695
It's not true. ASPD is a psychiatric diagnosis. Sociopathy and psychopathy are descriptive terms used in other settings and are not in themselves valid diagnoses but both basically fall under the category of an anti-social personality. You hear these used all the time in the media because the public loves an unfeeling monster and these labels get a reaction. The distinctions between sociopathy and psychopathy are vague and vary depending on the source since there is no standardized description of the distinction as they are not valid diagnoses. Some say it's a matter of nature vs. nature, some say it's a degree or quality of their social impairment. Some people use them interchangeably. The truth is that there's probably no clear line. It's all still up for debate. Anyone who claims otherwise is just wrong.

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>>17495849
Decided to look it up myself, and this seems right. Do we really know so little about this? I can understand the hollywood mystique, but is it not well-researched to a point they can tell nature from nurture?

>still replying to the avatarfag

did your psychic tell you to be nice to autists?

>>17490968
well, yes.

>>17495849
>psychopath
enjoys inflicting pain/suffering etc
>sociopath
doesn't mind using the above to achieve goals, but they're not the goals in themselves

>>17495695
>I don't care about people or what they think

>replying to every person

>>17495262
Sound like a gigantic pussy who likes crappy anime

>>17495575
>Using a serial killer thread to lure victims

>>17494302
you mean the killer known as alcohol?

>>17495837
Besides the actual terror attack?

>>17484047
The police are the Mafia in the North too

>>17497077
False flag attack*

>>17495262
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>>17495373
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legit question:
What's the difference between narcism or only thinking of yourself and lack of empathy?
:)

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>>17483301

How do you guys feel about the "narcos" down in Mexico who rack up in the thousands?

Pic related. This guy killed ~600 personally and was responsible for thousands more.

>>17497374
Hot as fvck.

>>17497373
from someone who doesn't know shit, the first is you care about yourself so much that you want others to do the same too.

the latter, you just don't give a fuck, and will use whoever the best way it suits you.

>>17497374
First thought is, who the fuck haven't we gone in there to pacify that shit?

Second thought is, they would probably just migrate south. Probably need an alliance with the bigger nations in the Americas to make it happen, but we don't have the best record when it comes to meddling with other nations. Thus we are probably stuck with corrupt governments not doing shit against the big players, and just taking down the smaller bosses.

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>>17489352
Did you say justice?

>>17497366
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They are separate functions. There is no 'making room'.

>>17497436
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>>17497411
Damn, this is tough, so if the E stands for the end of a word on words 4 letters or greater then the 3 and 2 letters shouldn't have E on the end, but in the first set of parenthesis their is a possibly 2 letter word that does have an E, so does that mean its actually a 1 letter word or is my computer separating them wrong and this words is part of the word prior to it?

>>17497411
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>>17491897

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Oh look

A potentially interesting thread on /x/ promptly ruined by fedora tipping edgy faggots with muh social anxiety muh murderous tendencies

>pic related, it's every singly one of you autists

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>>17498321

>>17497390
Everybody hates Mexicans and they don't have anything we want.

>>17498514
They have our jobs.

>>17497725
June 30th 1990, Missouri

this fuking thread sucks thanks for ruining it autistic idiot

>>17494139
You seriously need to seek professional help / medication. I've read through your string of posts, and it's obvious you have a fairly extreme case of ASPD. Most humans have an innate biological "love" for other humans, regardless of affliction, perhaps it takes root in an instinctual desire to preserve the species. At some subconscious level we (Normal, sane people) are aware of the lifetime of love and care that goes into most people, and are able to project our own instinctual urges for life and love onto anybody else.
Talk to your doctor about antipsychotics and mood stabilizers.

i know of someone who is very likely a serial killer, but is super smart about it and only kills street prostitutes. its my best friends father. he used to viciously beat his daughters, and had a cheating whore mother. would dissapeer for days at a time with plenty of empty desert around to dump bodies.. the most damning his daughters would clean his truck and would sometimes find multiple id cards of females. he started in cali, and now lives in the south somewhere i forget where.. heatd at one point there was missing hookers in the same area. if hes not a serial killer then i would be surprised

>>17494216
>you will never wake up in the middle of the night to your wife being raped by a tranny lifeguard

>>17501380
this is real shit, inb4 "armchair psychologist". please pay attention to this.

>>17502178
>would sometimes find multiple id cards of females
You just hand these to the cops and the story ends.
So your post sounds kinda dumb or the daughters are galactic-stupid, as well as de facto accessories to the murders.

>>17503405
I'm counting that as a win in my book

>>17502178
What happens to the IDs? Do his daughters still live with him? Are you in contact with your friend still?

>>17502178
Also, where in the South? I live in the South man...

>>17501380
bullshit and he's a roleplayer anyway.

>>17501380
also, ASPD isn't treated with medication and especially not antipsychotics or mood stabilizers. it's a personality disorder, not a mood disorder or a form of psychosis.

>>17503462
it's not even GOOD armchair psychology.

>>17483301
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>>17504424
CRUZTED
i dont see zodiac
DR ET CUZ
oops the beans are spilled.

>>17484047

Shut up you inbred Florida faglord

>>17483694
/k/ here:

.40 S&W got to be a popular civilian cartridge due to its popularity among LEOs (popular with Leo = high availability+manufacturer marketing of guns in that caliber), and the sd9ve is a popular handgun in general.

I wouldn't jump to it being a cop on account of the .40 sd9ve anymore than I'd jump to it being the KGB if they'd been shot with a makarov.

>>17493376
Ted abundant was crazy in love with a girlfriend in college. The breakup with her prefaced the murders. What are you talking about?

>>17495030
He was a baby when these took place or something. The timeline doesn't work.

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>came to the thread to read about serial killers, curious facts and youwouldntbelievethisshitisreal details about crimes and shit
>full of blogging and avatar fagging
>gore avatar fagging at that

I know this is /x/ but it's actually annoying to scroll 2 or 3 chunks of post at the time because of the gore making you feel uncomfortable to read the rest of the thread

>>17498321
Yeah it's pretty fucking annoying.

>>17504756
So you're saying it was the KGB? I KNEW IT!

>>17505363
It's not even that it's uncomfortable it's just wasted brainpower and annoying shit no one wants to have to read.

To the dumb edgy faggot who feels like posting paragraphs of shit about what a dumb edgy faggot he is go here: psychforums.com and fuck off with ruining decent threads because no one cares except other dumb edgy faggots who think what you're saying is some sort of revelation.

Think a lot of people overthink this, with their pseudophilosophizing shit. "Explain this!" "Well what makes you think that?" and "It's not necessarily" and all this horseshit about genetics vs. development. The two often go hand in hand.

Bundy, for instance, had a bad but not horrible childhood; was a peeping tom in his youth and degraded into violent pornography. He said specifically that when he married sexuality and violence he created a monster.

There was no weird, you know, "justification" in his killings. They deserved it or something. It's sad and funny that people are so scared of that kind of behaviour they have this idea that the killer had some weird frame of reference, that they were justifying their actions with a bunch of ideas, and they weren't REALLY killing people and enjoying it.

Nah. Bundy is one example; they found a girl with a ligature sunk so deep that the folds of skin met each other. He LOVED it. He LIVED for it. He planned and planned and planned - walking around with crutches and an arm in a cast - and when he got in that zone he lost himself in it. He was addicted to the violence and the passion of killing someone. Just the *act*.

Not the thrill of playing God, or the vengeance of "you deserve this", but just the pleasure of the act itself. One time he managed two in a single day; I imagine that might have been the best day of his life.

If that's too hard to understand you have no place talking about serial killers or really, killers in general.

No I'm not some tossing freak and yes I'm disgusted by the whole idea, I just find it amusing that people avoid the *worst* possible explanation in favor of some shit like "he had X disease. He believed *this* and *that*. It's CLINICAL, man."

Some people reach levels of moral & emotional depravity that no psychiatrist or armchair-philosopher could ever diagnose, much less understand.

(Apologies for the retarded drunken long-ass post)

>>17490297
i got a big purple head.

>>17489195
Autism confirmed

>>17495695
Reported for underage b&

try to make it less obvious in future threads please

>>17501380
Bullshit, he's a teenager trying to emulate what he thinks ASPD looks like to feel cool and edgy. Stop playing psychiatrist because you're bad at it.

>>17505363
that's how these threads go. Most of the time its the same 5-6 crime cases that get mentioned. The Taumon shaud, lead masks, the german family being killed in the 1920s. At least there are a handful of new stories in this

>>17490963
>not using a simple, up to date and easy to read system for the public to see
if anything I give them props, its not like when they show you a blurry surveillance photo and ask you if you have information on whatever the hell it is

>>17490795
firstly, hes wrong. some departments do but for the most part they prefer something striker fired like a glock because theyre cheap, simple to use and have easy access to changeable parts if needed. Some feel safties are dangerous because its another thing that you need to remember if you have to use a gun, and unlike tv ,most shootings are quick and you need to react fast

>>17483694
you know people other than cops can use that caliber right? Its not south America we're youre limited to certain cartridges
>not having a problem solver

>>17484673
"roughly" 50. you also have to take into account the different kinds of killers. Mass murderers, spree killers, robbers, ect. People heat serial killer and you think of them all being Jeffery dahmer but technically it includes a lot more

>>17495621
you mostly just sound like a dumb cunt. i could believe you are narcissistic but i highly doubt you really have an "anti-social personality" as much as you're a bitter special snowflake.

>>17486047
>>17487346
hes probably revisiting the dumpsite or lives in the area. Think about it
>barley anyone goes to that specific spot. Ive been to that part of NY and its all marshes and elephant grass. Nobody will willingly go in there
>if he wanted to dispose of the bodies, the beach is literally a few yards away. why take them that far when you could cut them up, weight them down and have the tide take them out? Your chances of any bodies being found are greatly reduced
>one of the main suspects lived in the area, close proximity to the dump site
then there was the apparent incident of one of the girls running around the area saying people were going to get her and knocking on doors asking for help, only to be found in the marshes later

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>>17489195
people are interested in crime. The mafia, drug king pins, bank robbers all do just as bad things but are romanticized. The thing with serial killers is they are to many people the ultimate evil, like something out of a fairy tale. A gangster will kill, torture, or kidnap for money and power, a serial killer will do it to get his rocks off. And to be fair unless you associate with the people most gangsters and the like wont ever bother you, where you can run into a psychopath just by chance Its the closest thing to a monster under the bed we're going to get as adults
also >>17489208 >>17492884
I find it pathetic that some call them "cool" or "handsome" or idolize them, but I do like reading about them like you would a shark in a tank, just to see how they tick. Particularly how they get caught. Im going to school for forensics and criminology and stopping people like this seems like a damn good job as far as being a cop goes

>>17505538
I was heard, before his exacution, bundys lawyer came to visit him in his cell and found him weeping, saying "he really wanted to be normal but just couldn't" Really makes you think about the cocktail of past upbringing, personal experiences and mental illness that can fuck up a person

>>17506387
>one of the main suspects
could you link to article?
>then there was the apparent incident of one of the girls running around the area saying people were going to get her and knocking on doors asking for help, only to be found in the marshes later
for this, too? i haven't read much about it.

>>17505538
>no psychiatrist or armchair-philosopher could ever diagnose, much less understand.
no one but you, of course, the genius who sees clearly. thanks for enlightening us.

>>17506423
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRaripbEHkc

Couple a vatos took him
out. After all that. Hilarious!

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>>17493437
>>17491897
except that this is the actual letter.

>>17483301
I believe there is a serial killer operating in the Canadian province of British Columbia, mostly in the Lower Mainland region. Lots of young men (late teens/early 20s) have gone missing under suspicious circumstances.

>http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/families-see-similarities-in-recent-missing-men-cases-in-b-c-1.710005
>http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/families-see-similarities-in-recent-missing-men-cases-in-b-c-1.710005
>http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/02/06/daniel-holt-missing-bc-man_n_1258825.html
>https://wenswritings.wordpress.com/tag/missing-men/

>>17505363
What is it about fantasy gore that gets people so riled up? I'll bet you wouldnt bat an eye at seeing a half decomposed zombie in a hollywood movie. And that would be even closer to real gore since its in 3d

>>17490317
A sensible chuckle from me. 9.5/10

>>17483301
>>17486047

>tfw I'm literally a male in his early 20s who alternates between Boston and Long Island

>>17507492
Good. Hope either one of them gets you uni fag.

>>17497373
Cringe

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>>17483301
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/skull-found-hollywood-sign_us_56eec411e4b09bf44a9d8c35

whos to say its not the same guy who did Elisa Lam

>>17507492
well long island serial killer goes for women so you have no worries there

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You'd be amazed what people get away with.

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>>17510271
Umm, silencer on a revolver doesn't make sense. Go ask >>>/k/

>>17510271
>1946
>still walks the streets

More like hobbles. Assuming he isn't already dead.

>Arkansas

So you're telling me you can get away with murder in a state with a shit ton of rural areas and retarded cops? Wew lad that's news to me.

>>17510712
>So you're telling me you can get away with murder in a state with a shit ton of rural areas and retarded cops?
murderers get away with their crimes all the time even when the police are well trained and have lots of resources. it just depends on the evidence available to them.

>>17483301
I can't even read the stuff this prick did to people during his murder sprees holy shit

>>17496167
Go read more.
You're not within one thousand miles of right.

>>17506382
>I highly doubt you really have an "anti-social personality"

You aren't even capable of correctly utilizing psych jargon.

So how do we know you're capable of knowing what ASPD entails?

>>17494216
Donnie Darko?

>>17510292
Nagant revolvers want to have a word with you.

Fucking noguns faggot...

>>17512225
>Nagant revolvers want to have a word with you.

That's like using the existence of the platypus to argue that mammals lay eggs.

>>17507492
you're fine, just don't binge drink like your peers and you'll have a fighting chance at not drowning like a fucking idiot drunk.

>>17512345

This is no fucking joke. There are stories of people acting like they are your friends and get you wasted and beat the shit out of you and pull up to a bridge and throw you while your swollen and still intoxicated from drinking.

My main rule is I always have my 2-3 of my buddies with me when we go out. If one decides to use the restroom, we follow. I hate getting split up especially when there's a large crowd of people. Shits fucking real and don't fucking let your guard down because of a free drink or think walking alone intoxicated at night is safe!

>>17513151
>This is no fucking joke. There are stories of people acting like they are your friends and get you wasted and beat the shit out of you and pull up to a bridge and throw you while your swollen and still intoxicated from drinking.

Sauce on these stories

>>17513164

Starting from 2008, there's been a shit ton of college students usually white, tall, good looking and intelligent (yes they were going to school and work) that were dying from accidentally drowning. Almost all of these cases were related to alcohol. That launched a nationwide investigation with the help of
Local and state as well as elite pi's on why these college students primarily on the east coast that were dying.

Its scary af and I recommend you do your research online to be aware (not try to solve some shit as that's dangerously stupid) and go on here and share.

>>17513164

There are stories online of a two survivors that were chased down the woods and hid and another one that got tangled on a tree when they tossed him. Both survivors contacted the police and filed a report.

>>17513164

I never went to college and just stayed with my high school job and worked my way up to manager at a popular store in my city. 52k a year with health and dental and also I buy and fix and sell things as extra income. I try to make an extra 600 per month from buying and fixing electronics and resale with markup value.

Reason why I didn't want to go to college was I knew social problems of finances and trying to be cool and also adapting with fucking peers and deal with their shit and finally crazy antisocial fucks shootings and crazy shit happening so i wouldn't want to risk it.

>>17513328
nice blogpost.

that's cool though really, at least you don't have a shitload of debt or something.

>>17513328
lol thats absurd. well on your way to agoraphobia, join the club tho i guess

>>17490779
I worked with a psychiatric patient that was raised in an occult group in CA. She was one of the few patients I've worked with that I felt had a legitimate case of dissociative disorder (multiple personality disorder) brought on by severe childhood trauma. She told me a story about some ceremony they did where the end result was them burying her alive in a coffin when she was 7 or 8 years old. They dug her back up before she suffocated (obviously). One day while in shift, I watched her run from one side of or unit to the other side and jump head first into a locked/closed door in an attempt at breaking her neck. She only knocked her self out and fucked her neck up badly.

I wonder if it was the same cult.

>>17498321
OP here, yeah, Guro-fag can go suck Otis Toole's fat fucking drifter cock, Thanks everyone who isn't Guro-fag contributing and adding their theories/info on killers, surprised the thread is even still up.

personal theory-
Currently the only suitable area for stationary serial murder may be middle america, or a middle american urban area, maybe an Omaha type area with a college. As the majority of the Boom-Killers (1970's-1990's) were primarily located in four coastal regions of the Northwest, Northeast, Southwest, and Southeast, if anyone has information about their hometown and any number of either disappearances or rumors related to it, maybe keep the thread alive, or don't so that we don't get edgy-meme-lords for another 200 posts.

>>17506629
Underrated post, it seems like there's already at least one person getting charged with a murder in these disappearances (though a couple it looks like were just people taking impromptu early 20's vacations) what do we know about the accused Richard MacInnes?

also on the McElwee, the victim profile is really strange for serial murder/kidnapping as he looks to have been extremely physically fit, may be a Gacy type that impersonates a police officer or authority so that they can get a willing submission rather than having to do a forceful overpowering, as that would leave at least some level of crime scene evidence of a struggle, as well the fake-cop thing might explain the way the car was found abandoned on the side of the road.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/richard-macinnes-charged-in-michael-scullion-cold-case-1.2567088.

>>17493376
I'm not sure about this for some serial killers, Elmer Wayne Henley seems to not have been a person with empathetic issue, just drawn into a spiral of social positivism related to increasingly deviant criminal behavior, especially knowing how much he was trapped by Dean Corll into continuing on penalty of death by dean corll or death by electric chair for being complicit and aiding in murder. I think the biggest problem that links Serial Killers is in criminological terms, a desire for social normalcy in spite of personal frustrations which they tend to work out through deviant means.

Examples
Richard Ramirez- Influenced heavily by his cousin and felt as though his streak of murders and rapes were a way to connect with this role-model figure in his life while also giving him a persona of this sort of "lord of evil" type so that he could feel socially significant.

Ed Kemper-
Wanted to be socially normal, of high intelligence and able to discern personal motivation as a deep hatred of his mother that made social interaction with women nearly impossible for him and thus the projection of violence onto them became one of the only releases available to him without jeopardizing his parole.

but ultimately this is a very nurture based look at the serial killer, rather than just the nature of the killer.

>>17506588
>>17493437
>>17491897
>>17483681
zodiac has been solved for awhile now
KILL/SLF/DR/HELP/ME/KILL/MYSELF/GAS/CHAMBER/AEIOUR/DAYS/QUESTIONSABLE/EVERYY/WAKING/MOMENT/IM/ALIVE/MY/PRIDE/LOST/I/CANT/GO/ON/LIVING/IN/THIS/WAY/KILLING/PEOPLE/I/HAV/KILLD/SO/MANY/PEOPLE/CANT/HELP/MYSELF/IM/SO/ANGRY/I/COULD/DO/MY/THING/IM/ALONE/IN/THIS/WORLD/MY/WHOLE/LIFE/FUL/O/LIES/IM/UNABLE/TO/STOP/BY/THE/TIME/YOU/SOLVE/THIS/I/WILL/HAV/KILLD/ELEVEN/PEOPLE/PLEASE/HELP/ME/STOP/KILLING/PEOPLE/PLEASE/MY/NAME/IS/LEIGH/ALLEN/

>>17515099
Sauce?

>>17515129
me

>>17515136
Ted Cruz, shouldn't you be campaigning somewhere?

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>>17483325
IS there video footage of him doing this expression?

He seems pretty mad :^)

The thing what i hate about society is why the fuck do they care if they live or die? I mean you know them nor you care about them. Why being a goodie two shoes for no logical reason? Why giving a single fuck for the men or women who you don't EVEN know in the first place. It's utterly damn pathetic that some people get sad over a person who's not a relative. Fucking idiots why not mind your own damn business and fuck off and let the guy do his bad deeds in privacy? Surely why will you people give a shit if they get killed anyway? Just be a goof fucking queer boy and keep your lips sealed before it gets mutilate okay? Thanks

>>17483301
that's not paranormal faggot

>>17490403
>In the past America has had a problem with truckers dealing drugs, killing hookers, robbing people, transporting illegal goods
So the FBI has a whole team devoted to monitoring truckers? What division? I'd like to know more because right now america has problems with people of all occupations engaging in the same behavior you claim about truckers, but the FBI devotes a whole division to truckers? it doesn't make a whole lot of sense but I'm curious about it

>>17515485
it makes a lot of sense because truckers move around much more than an average person so when a trucker on his way from NY to NV kills a hooker, by the time the body is found he's already in las vegas or something and not a prime suspect

Also since truckers are often far from home they either don't have time for a wife or they're far from her so they seek pleasure from hookers and make extra cash dealing or using drugs living a double life, so it makes very much sense to monitor them, don't be offended if you're a nice trucker, it's just that at least in the past many truckers did turn to crime or criminals became truckers because it was beneficial in their thieving/murdering/drug dealing business

that's just my hypothesis though i'm not even american

>>17483681
Even Ted Cruz himself is accepting the joke though which I think is great. Fuck the republicans but as a person I don't hate Ted Cruz.

>>17489195
It's a fascination. I'm fascinated by the psyche that drives people to break the moral boundaries and kill other human beings. It's a morbid fascination. I don't support or approve of serial killers or any other violent crimes, but they're fun to read about, and it's nothing new either. i've been watching shows about the zodiac killer, jeffrey dahmer, and other famous killers since I was 8 and was sneaking into my mom's room to watch them when she fell asleep

>>17489352
god enough with the shitty animu pics. At least get some decent taste.

>>17490403
There was a trucker serial killer who just plain would kidnap people and kill them in his truck, he was only caught i think when someone managed to escape when they realized what was up. He'd pick up hitchhikers, people no one would miss.

Women get raped a lot by truckers when they hitchhike.

>>17514990
Who do you think you are to disagree? Someone with some actual knowledge? Not fair.

Once met a guy in the airport. He wore glasses and an off-white, almost grey suit. He wore very clinical glasses and carried a very unassuming briefcase. He approached me after catching my eye a few times and started asking me what seemed at first to be very unassuming questions, but after a while started to sound very much like he would like to know where I was going when I got off the plane (We were sharing a flight).
All through our conversation, I got the impression that if I was to give him any solid information, there was a very high chance that my body parts would end up in various parts of the country. You never forget a crocodile smile.

>>17517189
Apparently we all meet a serial killer at least once in our lives. It's fascinating..

>>17517189
>>17517197
Or maybe he wanted to fuck. People are weird.

>>17515099
>zodiac has been solved for awhile now
>>17515129
>Sauce?

http://zodiacrevisited.com/yet-another-person-cracks-the-340/
> Corey Starliper is the latest in a long line of people who claim to have solved the 340.

Fortunately, this time, the claim is accompanied by the supposed solution, details regarding the procedure used and other insights into the circumstances surrounding the alleged decipherment. Pretty clearly, Starliper's solution is not valid. Corey Starliper is the latest in a long line of people who claim to have solved the 340.

Fortunately, this time, the claim is accompanied by the supposed solution, details regarding the procedure used and other insights into the circumstances surrounding the alleged decipherment. Pretty clearly, Starliper's solution is not valid.

>>17518270
yeah, i looked into this because the message sounded like it could be legit but it turns out that he just fudged a bunch of bullshit to make it work.

>>17483694
>>17484047

re: possible cop involvement (in Florida)

http://willsavive.blogspot.com/2013/01/two-men-last-seen-with-collier-county.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Terrance_Williams_and_Felipe_Santos

>Both men were last seen being arrested by former Collier County Sheriff's deputy Corporal Steve Calkins for driving without a license. He claims he changed his mind about both arrests and last saw the men after he dropped them at Circle K convenience stores.

This story is so fucked. The cop was definitely involved. He's caught in lie after lie... Has never been charged though because there are no bodies and no evidence of foul play...

from Investigative Discovery website (Don't know if the episode is available online - might be on Hulu)

>Terrance's family quickly learns the car was towed from a cemetery the morning after Terrance was last seen at the party. The missing man's mother goes directly to the cemetery to question employees. The story she is told sounds very suspicious. There are several witnesses who saw Terrance getting arrested by the same deputy that called dispatch to have the Cadillac towed. But when family finds no reports of an arrest or booking, they feel something is amiss.

Then, after a complaint is filed against the deputy, an internal affairs investigation unveils disturbing details, which sound eerily similar to the case of another missing man out of North Naples. Is the Collier County Sheriff's Office confronting a coincidence in the extreme? Or are they faced with investigating two missing person's cases, with the suspicion of foul play, where the only person of interest is one of their own?

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Who was WMBC? are the 11 found his only victims? I doubt it, as the deposits of bodies are often times scattered in clusters in an area much like Bundy and Ridgway, and this seems very similar to Green River's murders.

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>>17515201
>haha mom check me out
>i didnt cut myself this time!1!1!!!
>so edge

>>17515210
Thats not contributing to anything retard

>>17515201
Hey settle down man

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>>17515201
Its because of people like you that bad things happen.

>>17489195
I'm interested in alternative forms of torture, doesn't mean I'm going to go out and torture people, or find it acceptable

Is there a diagnosis for people who occasionally resemble ASPD, besides autism? Definitely not autistic, but slip into APSD thinking sometimes. Have the ability to empathize. Actively work against intrusive thoughts of violence and cruelty for public image firstly and realizing these people would suffer secondly. PTSD.

>>17490317
Wow hahaha

>>17507492
don't be a dipshit and get black out drunk by yourself in a public place. Its a pretty common rule for women (who still do it anyway) but it should be for men too. Don't think youre too manly to get robbed, beaten, or at the very least get tossed out by some annoyed bar tender

>>17513222
>>17513255
that's the supposed smiley faced killer(s) right?
I watched some shitty movie on it and assumed the case was fake/exaggerated

>>17515197
I think its his trial, where he acted as his own lawyer

>>17518488
Pfft, in Veracruz, México, that shit is commonplace.

Recently, three perfectly normal teens were picked up by police officers in that state. They disappeared and the cops said they'd changed their mind about arresting them and let them go a few blocks from where they were detained.

Eventually the truth came out that the cops worked for a cartel and had delivered the teens to them, who were in turn butchered.

>>17515201
because unlike you we aren't hateful little bitches that just want to watch le world burn. Most people are moderately happy and have enough going on in their lives to not want it taken away by some pissant edge lord

>>17515485
because truckers have immediate or at least better access to mobility, which is the main issue with serial killers. You kill in one bumfuck part of a state and move on to another bumfuck part of a different state before people know whats up. There aren't many jobs out there anymore that grant you immediate access to travel so frequently and with less paperwork. Im my job wants to move me to another states that's a few weeks of paper work and notifications. If IM a trucker I can be up and down the east coast all year

>>17517189
I meet weird people when I travel too. Some are most likely just creeps, spergs and have zero social skills so it comes off worse then they think. But Id bet ive run into a dangerous one once or twice. Just don't go off with them and youll be fine

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>>17483301
>tfw I don't read about this shit until I start a new job in the Financial District.

10/10 very spook all of times.

44.993129, -89.626604

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>>17493437

Anyone else mildly interested in then role play binary cipher and date.
>>17521954
cool

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>>17492884
>ghouls don't exist

>>17521954
>residential address in wisconsin as if anyone could possibly care.

KEKTIMUS PRIMAE, thanks for the disinfo