Satanism

it's the first one i've browsed and made me believe in satanism

>>17315205
Fuck off!
This fucking shit keeps getting spammed here the last couple of weeka. Go shill somewhere else!
We know you are defective nazis who can't into magic. I should know since I was in your sect more than 10 years ago.
Since then, I fought against you along with a number of other satanists. I thought you were all but dead, but I was sadly mistaken

>>17315218
This

JoS is the only based Satanism site because there are real practices for magick and they revive nazism and occultism combo

Always been interested in Satanism since I was young. Anything to bring me closer to it makes me happier.

>>17315228
So that's why they are the laughing stock of the magical community!
Yeah, their magic doesn't work, and if it did, it would be much weaker than that of other schools. Also, it preaches against the Jews, then talks about ancient Israelite gods and and practices like they invented it.
And the ufology? Don't get me started on that shit. Satan is an ayy lmao, suure

>>17315205

Satan is the father of all lies

How you can believe he's a true god when everything he does and stands for is opposite of an already existing God is mind boggling

>>17315248
are you close-minded?

>>17315241
Suggest a better magick school then

No irony here i'm seriously interested

If you really need satanism in your life (and you don't, it's a loser philosophy and magical school) go here
theisticsatanism.com/

>>17315248
well you only say that about satan because your god supposedly said that about satan. what if it's your god who lies?

>>17315250

Nope.

Are you?

I was into Satanism when I was a teenager so I'm not ignorant of it. I know even more about Satanism now that I'm a Christian.

>>17315255
Quabbalah, Thelema, chaos magic, shamanism... Hell, even sufism and christian mysticism are better

>>17315257
It's just common sense bro. Would the universe be founded on hatred, wickedness, and vengeance? Or Love?

If your honest with yourself which one feels like the truth?

>>17315263
But those require reading big books, a lifelong dedication and practice...

>>17315263
Any sites where i can practice that shit?

Is it real?Do you practice them?

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>>17315205
The JoS are the laughing stocks of the Satanic community. They are known for errant plagiarism, being a neo-nazi front, and being a basic starting point for theistic Satanists, all of whom are expected to go beyond the extremely limited and reactionary JOS.
>>17315263
Satanic groups and cults incorporate literately all of those. Everything from Islamic to traditional Satanism takes from those sources.
>>17315262
>i know more about it as an adult christian than a teenager
What does the Satanic community mean when they are crossing the abyss?

What does evil mean in the Satanic community?

What are the basics of Satanism?

>>17315274
There are books... Magical studies aren't something that you can study from websites.
Well, at least chaos matrix gives you good guidelines for chaos magick, but it takes experimentation and a personal approach. Bonus points, it has no dogma!

>>17315285
Hmm can you suggest me some books?

>>17315257
If God lies then men have no hope.

>>17315280
>What does the Satanic community mean when they are crossing the abyss?
>What does evil mean in the Satanic community?
>What are the basics of Satanism?

First of all, don't act like there is one set definition of Satanism. It means different things to different people.

Second of all, I'm not about to be sucked into debating the lies and bullshit theories that make up Satanism. They don't deserve my respect.

And finally yes, I know more now than I did then because before I was blind. Now I see the true nature of Satan and his true followers. Most who claim to be his followers are just confused and don't know any better

>>17315319
>not one definition
re- I don't know.
>not to be sucked in
re- i don't know
>i know more than I did before
re- i actually don't know

Yet you can't answer any of those starter and beginning Satanist questions. Your conclusion is essentially sectarian phraseology: they are "lost" and by Christos you see the truth. Thanks for affirming that you are simply parroting criticism upon a particular variant of Satanism, most likely traditional Diabolism than other theist or atheistic forms.

>>17315294
Yes! The entire works of Aleister motherfucking Crowley! Hope your eyes bleed out reading it the next 10-15 years, depending on reading speed and comprehension... But before fucking the great beast, read all of Lon Milo Duquettes stuff on Thelema, because Crowley thinks you know some shit about magic(k) before reading his work.
Also, read your bitching Plato, Socrates, Descartes, Thomas Aquinas, Nietzche, Kant, Hegel, all of philosophy you can get your little slimy hands on.
Read some fucking Shakespeare as well. Read the Bible, for fucks sake! Read! Read! Read!
God damn it, is it hard to open a new tab and google some shit?

>>17315319
lol you just rekt yourself with this post. you come out here claiming to represent the "truth" of god and christ but you blatantly lied about "knowing" more about satanism now that you're a christian and i can't help but wonder if you were ever a satanist in the first place.

if you held the truth there would be no reason to lie.

>>17315323
Ohh you sure got me Mr. Intelligent Satanist man.

There's no point in debating someone who can't see the truth. You know exactly what I'm saying but you twist my words so they become lies. At least your doing your father proud.

>>17315335
See >>17315338

Kek, I love it how everyone joins in to bash satanism. This is one of the few redeeming qualities of /x/

>>17315340
i'm not a satanist though. i just think it's funny how you think it's okay to lie in support of god.

>>17315367
>Eveyone
>2 people in this thread

You must absolutely love the mobs that bash Christianity then

>>17315380
Show me where I lied. Prove to me I'm lying if you could be so kind.

You might be lying yourself, though maybe not intentionally

>>17315383
Well yeah! I have a thing against dogma and religion in general... I do believe in a god, or God, whatever, but I do not believe in divine books or men of god

>>17315326
Dude i want some books that directly teach you magick

>>17315390
i'm not gonna waste my time give you a long answer with quotes and all, but you say you know about satanism and then you can't give a single straight answer to some basic questions regarding what satanists believe. maybe you're not lying on purpose and only backed yourself into a corner when you realized that everything you know about satan/satanism actually comes from a christian point of view. considering that you're a man of god, i should give you the benefit of the doubt, right?

>>17315398
Dude, there is no such thing as just magic. It is intertwined with mathematics, physics, philosophy, chemistry, LIFE in general... You can't have magic without life. If you can not comprehend that, I don't think magic is for you. But that is just my opinion.
And I told you to read a guy named Crowley. And I mentioned a site called chaos matrix, didn't I?

>>17315420
>It is intertwined with mathematics, physics, philosophy, chemistry,

if you're saying that reading all of that is necessary to practice magic, then i guess you don't believe that any ancients ever practiced magic because they certainly didn't have access to modern knowledge and probably not even the science of their own time. you sound like a smug asshole and i doubt you've accomplished anything magical.

>>17315415
I didn't say I knew more about what Satanists believe. I said I knew more about what Satanism truly is. Yet another post that twists my words.

>>17315433
They had their own, implicit, intuitive understanding of life.
Ancient magic and mysticism is connected with philosophers and mathematicians for a reason

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>>17315444
Also, trips beat dubs...

>>17315444
if magic requires an implicit, intuitive understanding, then i guess it's totally unnecessary to recommend that he go read fifteen different subjects before starting on magic, right?

just saying that you make no sense.

>>17315467
An implicit, intuitive understanding of Life and the Universe, the key ingredients of magic. Does that make sense?

>>17315493
implicit and intuitive don't go along with thousands of hours of reading philosophy and chemistry books. does that make sense?

you're another poser with Capitalized Words in place of actual insight.

>>17315503
Not him but I'm a Capital Wordian myself.

So watch what you say you filthy lower case heathen

>>17315503
Well, I recommended that to that anon because he is out of touch with anything really. He wants results but doesn't want to work for them. There is no such thing as a free lunch, in magic even moreso

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>>17315234 (You)
get a job

>>17315536
Almost had me ex dee

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>>17315255

You know, if you've got the aptitude, you should join the Mage's College in Winterhold

>>17315380
>i'm not a satanist though
just by the way you refer to Jesus Christ as "Christos" I can tell you are a Satanist

>>17315572
Greecocatholic and orthodox denominations use Christos

>>17315572
that wasn't me. i refer to him as "the jeez" when i refer to him at all (which is never because i' an atheist).

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>>17315577
satanists also write "Xtians" instead of Christians sometimes, they believe true names have power and they refuse to give that power to Jesus by mentioning him... it is one of their tricks, and I am not falling for it

>>17315587
lol your christianity has made you a baby scared of words? i think i'll stick with my knowledge that god doesn't exist. but don't worry, neither does satan. it's just you and me and all the other suckers, anon.

>>17315587
Sooo, are you saying orthodox christians and greek catholics are satanists because they use the PROPER, original spelling of Christ?

>>17315590
You're an idiot, when did he say he was scared of them? He said they hold power

>>17315587
Yeah real satanists believe that. I'm a Christian and even I know words hold power, especially Jesus Christ

>>17315590
I never said anything about being Christian, just revealed a way to identify Satanists in disguise (e.g. you) before some easily influenced anons fall prey to your deception. Be gone now, and come back when you are better prepared.

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>>17315205
Spooky

>oldest god in recorded history is abzu
>mystic things exist

This troll isn't trying hard enough. I could be a better advocate for Satanism without even trying.

>>17315603
Please don't post that again. It scared the me pretty bad

2spooky4me

>>17315593
he probably had no knowledge of the orthodox/greek catholic (the exact same thing btw) spelling, just tried to use a bastardized version of the English spelling to avoid saying the "true" name of Christ/Christo/Christus/etc

So leaving all the meaningless talk , any other opinions about this particular website?

>>17315250
>believe lies
>ask others if they're close minded
lol

>>17315608
Probably. It just bothers me that people have no understanding of their own religion. Most american xtians (yes, xtians because they are lite christians) think Jesus was American or Mexican and that orthodoxy and catholicism are the devils spawn.

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>>17315280
These sum it up nicely.

>>17315634
>Most american xtians (yes, xtians because they are lite christians) think Jesus was American or Mexican and that orthodoxy and catholicism are the devils spawn

What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

>>17315671
I am ranting, obviously. Don't mind me

>>17315681
Well, you're wrong. A few retards might think that but to say that most do is pretty retarded. I live in the U.S. and have never heard one person ever say that. I'm aware those people do exist though

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>>17315554
underrated post

>>17315205
is very cute

>>17315248
How do you know that God is the truth and Satan is a liar? How do you know it isn't the other way around?

>>17315940

When I followed Satan I was left empty and cold in darkness

Now that I follow God I feel his love and see the truth because I stand in his light

The truth doesn't need to advertise itself beyond simply existing. Lies spread like wildfire though to cover up the truth. Just look at the world and see how much aligns with Satan

It's pretty simple

>>17315205
it was great. i am now a satan. when do i get my pitchfork?

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>>17315205
maybe they should ask satan to give them their own website domain and update their faggoty looking site

>>17315205
No, no NO. Not these guys. For one thing, they believe in Sitchin. And the trappings of Goetic summoning are there for a bloody reason.

Try theisticsatanism.com instead. Please

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>>17315205
I wish it was real. I want am incubus
;__;

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>>17315338
>the truth
You speak about this truth and your perception of reality as absolute, while positing knowledge about a subject which you succinctly avoided, all the while decrying the adversarial questioner as an intentional liar?
>twist my words
>truly is
From reading your exchange with others, I see now that you hadn't implied that you understood Satanic positions better than you had when you were younger. Instead, you are suggesting that your particular religious system "enabled" you to regurgitate qualifications in an exoteric manner that invalidates your youthful interpretations. This implies that your understanding of Satanism is strictly from a brief dabbling in your teens, with any esoteric meanings long scrubbed away by scriptural proselytization.
>father
Satan is the name of the totality, the moniker of the eternal black chaos and all (non-)emanations. All gods are born from the strumming of this infernal pan-dimensional chaos. Samael/Lilith is the Dark Father and the Sinister Mother; alas, so is Asmodeus/Lilith, as well as Pan, the Horned God of the Wild, and Hecate, the Night Matron of the Crossroads. The names of and for the extensions and substance of the primordial darkness are many and vary greatly. Its creations, regardless of tendency, are as limitless as the dancing of chaos.

>>17317779
Not that guy, but I see you are referring to the qlipoth. Can you tell me why do Sammael and Asmodeus rule the same sphere, according to some texts? My best friend and I are devoted to Sammael and Asmodeus respectively, so when we found that out, we were like whoaaaah

>>17315205
god fucking dammit. I had to deprogram my cousin from this horsecrap.

Yall niggas need Satan.

>>17315599
lol i had to go before because i have a life but it's funny how confident you are in something you're wrong about. zero reason to believe i'm a satanist yet you're sure i am because someone else called him christos in stead of jesus christ. do you see how silly you are?

go pray on this and see what god says. if he agrees with you about my secret satanist deception, it's because you're only talking to yourself. because god should know what the truth is, right?

>>17317797
Sinister darkness and chaos....

Sounds lovely you edgy faggot

>>17315205
Some useful information on meditations, veers off from Satan's teachings with racism and some bigotry. Jews aren't "evil".

JoS claims Satan is the creator God of All yet appears to race hate from what I've seen.

>>17315634
>Most american xtians (yes, xtians because they are lite christians) think Jesus was American or Mexican and that orthodoxy and catholicism are the devils spawn.

no, these are americans on /x/ and /pol/ and 4chan-type places generally. normal american christians aren't anything like that so these people are relegated to the internet wasteland. some of the real life christians are idiots, of course (especially on 4chan and /x/!), but don't let your perception get skewed from all the bullshit you read around here.

>>17317823
Not him but..,
Jesus said...

"He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters"

Are you with God and the truth or against it.
One can only have one master

Either your father is God the father

Or your father is the father of lies, Satan

>>17317833
yeah, i joined a couple of their yahoo groups to see more info and it's full of hitler/kikesrbad/racemixingisbad and even national socialism info. seems like a way to recruit people to neonazism.

>>17317836
>implying even American Christians on 4chan think Jesus was born in America or Mexico

You're fucking kidding me right?

>>17317847
I'd argue the biggest trick Satan ever pulled was convincing himself he didn't exist and that he wasn't God, to help forget the truth that Satan exists within his own mind and is surrounded by his own thoughts.

I am that I am.

>>17317861
Cancer this post gave mr

>>17317847
what jesus said really doesn't matter. he accused me of being a satanist which is a specific system of beliefs. i am an atheist and have no supernatural master, divine or otherwise.

if you want to consider me an enemy because i don't believe in god and am willing to say that to anyone who inquires, that's fine. i don't consider you an enemy but i certainly wouldn't invite you over for tea if you're saying that satan is my master unless i'm a christian because that shit is bananas.

i have values and a conscience and i do my best to contribute to making the world a better place in my own little ways and do as little harm as possible and i don't do it because i love jesus or because i'm afraid of eternity in hell. if you can't accept that i'm a good, godless person, that's your own issue.

but either way, i'm certainly not a satanist.

>>17317855
well i was referring mostly to the derision toward catholicism from some anons here and on /pol/.

>>17317861
Thag is Satanic word twisting at its finest my good sir. To the point that it makes no fucking sense

>>17317875
I know I sounded kind of harsh, but that's just the way I see it. I'm glad that you try to contribute to the world the best you can. That's what started my path to God. I believe this means you're open to the truth.

I'm not saying you are consciously being a Satanist, it's just that Satan is a powerful force who keeps many people from seeing the truth and love of God

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>>17317889
Well you've got a point there. I happen to be one of those anons (except I'm on /his/ not /pol/)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M

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>>17315255
Memetics. Social engineering. Viral marketing. Sociology and psychology.

Realize that 99% of humans are gullible cattle, and then try to figure out what makes the 1% so powerful and influential. Protip: It isn't magic.

>>17315205
the first place that edgelords go to spoop mom and dad

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>>17317803
>Why do Samael and Asmodeus rule the same sphere?
I suspect it has to do with Asmodeus being a chthonic aspect of Samael, who is dualistic both in nature and in his marriage with the bloody mother of all creation. Asmodeus is also united to the same primal force of power, the dragon womb wherein all emerge, are destroyed, and are reborn.

Asmodeus, Lord of Demons, is united with Lilith, the seductive maiden, while Samael is united through Leviathan unto Lilith, the bloody whore. War births between the two personifications of the primordial chaos, signifying the ever-shifting and self-cultivating pursuit for holistic mastery within the chaotic, primal forces of Sitra Ahra and ever-dynamic faces of chronozon.

Amusingly enough, I came across Samael, Lilith and Asmodeus prior to diving into Qlippothic study, as I worked first with Asmodeus, then Lilith, then Samael. I have recently picked up Qliphoth Opus 3, alongside the Book of Sitra Achra, Scales of the Black Serpent, Qabalah, Qliphoth and Goetic Magic, and Nightside of Eden. There remains a large amount of studying to do into the Qlippoth. So far it is extremely fascinating.

Why do you think they are said to rule the same sphere?