What is the universe for?

>>17111555
Education.

>>17111555
not for anything, really. It's just there for all we know. We're not here for anything either, so might as well enjoy the ride.

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The universe is not sentient, it doesn't have to be 'for' anything. It just is. Humans are just a component, like rocks, or helium. Just because we know how to make pancakes we aren't special -- though that doesn't mean we can't have fun. Just don't expect any rewards.

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“And the four living creatures, each of them with six wings, are full of eyes all around and within, and day and night they never cease to say, “Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come!”
And whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to him who is seated on the throne, who lives forever and ever,
the twenty-four elders fall down before him who is seated on the throne and worship him who lives forever and ever. They cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

Worthy are you, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created.”

>>17111577
just like a mosquito thinking he is the center of the universe or something like that
>based nietzsche

Shits and giggles

>>17111555
double trips

its for getting sweet numbahs to line up just so

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>>17111595
>based nietzsche

More Camus. :)

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>>17111604

oh shit, what did i win?!

>>17111555

Even though the universe doesn't need to explain itself, I'm guessing the main goal is to fight off entropy. Scientists think that is impossible.

>>17111555
Understanding and progress

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art and poetry, well that is what it is but also what 'it' does.

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>>17111555
For us to explore. Gorgeous pic by the way.

>>17111555
browsing dank memes all night

according to >>17111440 The universe is (possibly) a simulation

If that's the case then our universe is probably some kind of scientific experiment done to gain insight on the universe that spawned us in some manner.

Or we're some kind of strange porn, one of the two.

>>17111595
Mussolini was raised by a devoutly Catholic mother[165] and an anti-clerical father.[166] His mother Rosa had him baptized into the Roman Catholic Church, and took her children to services every Sunday. His father never attended.[165] Mussolini regarded his time at a religious boarding school as punishment, compared the experience to hell, and "once refused to go to morning Mass and had to be dragged there by force."[167]

Mussolini would become anti-clerical like his father. As a young man, he "proclaimed himself to be an atheist[168] and several times tried to shock an audience by calling on God to strike him dead."[166] He believed that science had proven there was no god, and that the historical Jesus was ignorant and mad. He considered religion a disease of the psyche, and accused Christianity of promoting resignation and cowardice.[166]

Mussolini was an admirer of Friedrich Nietzsche. According to Denis Mack Smith, "In Nietzsche he found justification for his crusade against the Christian virtues of humility, resignation, charity, and goodness."[169] He valued Nietzsche's concept of the superman, "The supreme egoist who defied both God and the masses, who despised egalitarianism and democracy, who believed in the weakest going to the wall and pushing them if they did not go fast enough."[169] On his 60th birthday, Mussolini received a gift from Hitler of a complete twenty-four volume set of the works of Nietzsche.[170]

>>17111555
It's for asking stupid questions like that, plus everything else.

>>17111595
Mussolini made vitriolic attacks against Christianity and the Catholic Church, which he accompanied with provocative remarks about the consecrated host, and about a love affair between Christ and Mary Magdalene.[171] He denounced socialists who were tolerant of religion, or who had their children baptized, and called for socialists who accepted religious marriage to be expelled from the party. He denounced the Catholic Church for "its authoritarianism and refusal to allow freedom of thought ..." Mussolini's newspaper, La Lotta di Classe, reportedly had an anti-Christian editorial stance.[171]

>>17111877
The simulation argument is such a cop out. Even if what we think the universe is is a simulation, then that just means the real universe is outside our "boundaries". It still doesn't answer any questions, it's just a misdirection unless the question involves whether our perception of the universe is real or something along those lines.

>>17111555
The separation of the Consciousness occurred for knowledge of division.

>>17111959
if we are simulations, and we become self-aware of that, how does that not answer any questions? how is it a misdirection? questioning whether our 'reality' is real/true absolutely isn't a cop out. it most certainly doesn't necessitate the halt of philosophical and scientific inquiry...

>>17112049
If I ask "What is the point of the universe?" and you respond with "The universe is a simulation" how does that not misdirect the question? If our universe is a simulation, then a larger universe must have created us, so the point of that universe is the same point as ours. So whether the universe is a simulation or not, the answer to the original question will be the same and the answer isn't a simulation in the real universe.

>>17111577
I know all of this to be true as I am a based human being with no scope outside the windows of my mom's house.

>>17111877
>>17112049
>universe; all existing matter and space considered as a whole
If our universe was a simulation it wouldn't be the "universe". It would be redefined as part of the universe. The actual universe would be us plus the medium we are on plus everything else.

>>17111577

Why do you post these things like they are fact? What is so wrong with posting a thought and accepting that it is your personal thought and you would like to open things to discussion?

I guess I don't really get the fear of sharing an idea as an idea.

For nothing, and for everything.

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i think the only shit that gets for all eternity its time, and thus inside of it everything physical happens.

porn, memes, shit posting and mootles in neko ears :3

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It's for passing butter

>>17111577
The pessimists view

>>17112214
Why are you bitching about the fact that people can have opinions? Are you allergic to closed mindedness? How have you survive contact with the internet at all, let alone 4chan of all sites?

>>17112459
>those feels

>>17111595
>>17111887

how many of you have moments of existential absurdity?

Random times during the day where it just suddendly dawns on you how weird it seems for all this shit to exist ? Happens to me every day, and I think it must happen to most people with no fixed religious belief. It can give me goosebumps

>>17111555
Asking what the universe is for.

>>17112702
Every few weeks for 3 years straight.

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>>17111577
This /x/ not /r/atheism you fucking cuck.

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>>17112702
Constantly.

>>17111579
Oh yeah, so we can create stories therefore god exists

We really exist? Life exist? We Universe really exist? which would be tested?

>>17112796
yeah thats probably the most complex part

>>17112702
Same. Makes no damn sense. I go into deep thought about it. I think about why do I exist and what the odds were of me existing. It's fucked up.

>>17112702

Not often enough.

Feels fuckin' great then it does happen though.

>>17111555
Fun and games, in my experience.

But then, not everyone appreciates the fine art of mathematically proving their own existence.

>>17111555
it is a shared hallucination between two god-like entities of equal power who created the universe so they could flirt with each other

>>17116744
And one of them was very, very shy. And needed a lot of space.

>>17113246
fuck you you have no idea how hard it is to handle these fucking feels all the time goddamn.

I like the thought of us being in a simulation. I mean, how cool would that be? If somebody actually created us, but just because they had the technology to do so and yet doesn't really give a fuck about us.
>All hail our based alien programmers

>>17116889
Yeah it actually gives me more feels than all the gods of the Earth combined. It makes me feel loved despite the apathy.

>>17116889
>tfw we are a simulation
>tfw we create a near-real simulation in the next 100-200 years
>tfw we become a simulation inside a simulation

>>17111555
I believe it just spirals infinitely upwards.
Example: A fly can see tiny phenomena not normally observable by humans, by their view the world is vastly different. They see us as huge apes who live in giant stones for unknown reason, they probably think cars are another lifeform and not a tool of humans. A fly will probably not travel further than a mile in its life (just pulled that fact out of my arse, the point is they wont see much of the world). There is no way a fly will know it is in the UK, or that we call it a fly, or that we know all there is to know about them and the rest of our world (pretty much). To a fly the world is it's surrounding area, there is land outside of where they are but they don't posses the means to go there or a reason to, all the need is poop, water and whatever they eat and while they are at hand, the land they can't access easily is as mysterious as space is to us.
There could be a being or something beyond our comprehension that sees us and has observed us and thinks nothing of us, as we do to a fly. Perhaps the movement of cosmic objects is actually some kind of super being or unknowable phenomenon which has its own perspectives and sees us as little insignificant flies. Further onto that, beyond that being perhaps there is something even greater than that beyond it's comprehension and this goes on infinitely. To the point where all of our feeble notions are utterly irrelevant.

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All this depression , feels and absurdity... We need to do psychedelics guys. I don't see what else is there. I bet we are disgusted by most people we see , hang or come in contact with...

>>17116913
So... The Lovecraftverse. Purpose scales to infinity and exceeds human comprehension so completely that we might as well be purposeless.

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>>17116924
Yeah pretty much Lovecraft kek.

>>17116818
and the other got bored and went about setting off a chain of events that could bring about the end of days

so you know
whenever you're ready, really, dear
only the continuation of the entire universe as we know it depends on it
no pressure

>>17116969
I bet our universe to some beings perspective is silly, petty and basically useless. I'm not a nihilist by the way, I like our world.

>>17116969
I mean I kind of want to know what universe tastes like but I ALSO don't want to see it end completely.

Can I just reserve the right to ask "Is it safe?" until the stars burn out or something?

>>17116979
I guess one bite never hurt. Just a taste...

>>17111555
Its for physical beings to evolve to become apart of thy universe.

For our most Sacred Trogoautoegocratic process.

>>17116996
Are we not already?

>>17117004
Depends on how you incarnated.

>>17111877
>>17111665
>These faggots believe in science
Next you'll be telling me that Thoth didn't tell the Egyptians how to build the pyramids or give them the tech to do it.

Long story short: It began as a simulation program where we learned about our universe, but was abandoned 8.1 billion years ago when a species became too advanced. I'm just part of a team that makes sure they don't break through the barrier.

>>17117016
Could you elaborate on why you think humans are not a part of the Universe? Not saying your wrong, just interested.

>>17117054
how can i join ? i am poor and dont want to hang out with people

>>17117067
I think what he's suggesting is that humans become part of the universe itself via process of spiritual awakening twinned with organic death

>>17111826

why are you spamming korean girls in this board?
are you autistic?

>>17117075
Oh I see yeah, I suppose all humans have a very narrow worldview. Our lives are nothing, we see very little of the universe and understand little.
Again I'm not a nihilist, I like this world.

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>>17117098
now you see what he's suggesting, again, I think, he could mean something entirely different, but what I think he's suggesting would mean that lives are indeed something and that the universe is an organism that assimilates souls that join it after shedding their physical forms

on both an atomic and spiritual level, the point of the universe becomes to become the universe

the lives we live are merely pupal forms and we will emerge from our mortal cuccoons as a part of a living feeling universe organism

I'm just saying, becoming part of the universe via spiritual awakening and death is a belief that directly stems from having the very opposite of a narrow worldview, so please don't tar all of us with the same brush, thanks much

thing about the universe is you see exactly as much of it as you want to see

>>17117054
The Nibblonians?

>>17117171
The comic Slaine: Book of Invasion Vol 2 (I think) deals with a similair concept. Mankind reincarnates over and over again because they are scared to go back into the earth (The Goddess in the book) in this example the earth is the universe. Slaine says becoming part of the Universe is the ultimate goal of life, haha if that's the case I'm very scared of that. No private thought, seeing sides of other people that I'd dare not see and facing terrifying truths. In a way though it might be liberating and cleansing being part of such a union.

>>17117067
Incarnation is not local to Earth. It happens wherever life does.
>>17117075
There's no universe to become a part of. If you want to get Buddhist on me, then realize your assumption are your own.

>>17117171
So the fools that think themselves governors of the universal organism are still begging for omnicide I see.

>>17117209
Nobody that wants those potential benefits need ever consent to those risks.

Anyone that tries to associate the two has committed an act of multiversal war.

>>17117219
you choose to see less while others choose to see more
I choose to see that people choose to see what they want
you can choose to see that I'm choosing to see others choose whatever they want if you want, but I'm not sure why you'd want to

the choice is yours

cloud storage

its just a prank bro

>>17111555
What are you for?

>>17117276
It's not for sucking your cock.

>>17111566
What do you mean by its there?
And we are here?
You know you are in the universe right?
You talk about it like its something seperate. You can't be that dumb
Can you? /x/ so maybe

>>17117254
There is no choice in those words you spoke.
>>17117449
The mind is all but separate from the universe.

>>17112214
Because some ideas are ridiculous. Just because you created them in your special little head, does not mean they deserve to be entertained by anyone else. Actually, you presenting a ridiculous idea, that should have been dismissed by yourself if you weren't so moronic, is an imposition as it has to be entertained by someone before it can be dismissed. Your making people think your stupid thoughts. Be kind and keep them to yourself

>>17117090
she's an attention whore

Do you realize that every time you masturbate and you cum you are cumming inside the universe?

>>17116877
Confirmed snowflake.
"It's so hard to be me because I'm so deep"
Wanker

>>17117477
I want this tattooed on me

>>17117467
So your saying it isn't. You try to compose your sentences like yoda to sound smart and wise, except you just said the exact opposite of what you meant. Luckily I already knew what you meant and knew you were wrong. Your thoughts exist in your brain. Which exists inside your mind. Which exists inside your brain. Which exists inside your skull. Whch exists on planet earth. Which exists, guess what? Inside the universe you dumb fuck.

>>17117469
>it has to be entertained by someone before it can be dismissed
Only in your delusional little clique, friend. Only in your delusional little clique.

(FYI general relativity is naught but an idea Einstein had one day. Someone has to think up new ideas if we want to stop human thought from stagnating for all eternity.)

>>17117519
>Your thoughts exist in your brain.
Untrue.
>[your mind] exists inside your brain
Also hardly fully accurate. There are parts of the mind that can be held within the brain, but most of the concepts and contents of your mind exist in a space well removed from physics and the physical brain that you've accused me of being bound by.

I am not so bounded as you wish to believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp4NkItgf0E

I'll just leave this here..

>>17111555
For that is an opinion so far

>>17117600
>INB4the researchers found an algorithm that mapped the source code of the browser it was running in

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>>17112624
It's true though, Earth isn't even remotely close to being the largest planet in our own solar system, we're the atom of a grain of sand in a desert.

>>17112702
I do, but when I think about it I try to avert my thoughts, the cosmos is too great a topic for mere men.

The One

lawofone.info

>>17112702
I feel real good when im doing some hiking and exploring some cave or climbing rocks and suddenly I know everything that ever happened; the creation of Earth and life was just so I could be there, doing that, at that precise moment.
That moment when I accidentally brush on my godhood. I created everything so I could enjoy it.

>>17116913
I like this post, anon.

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I will give you knowledge.

Each and every human that has existed, and every one that exists right now; each one has a piece of the puzzle. A bit of knowledge, a different experience.
All apart, in pieces; this information is useless. But when we put it all together; that's when things are going to get fun.

Law of one? As some anon mentioned earlier in this thread. Now it has its true meaning.

Any thoughts? Ideas?

>>17118090
Only knowledge I can think of is that eternal puzzlers never have any answers. Watch Phi-Brain.

>>17111555
Learning.

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>>17118090
i find myself thinking this exact same thought on a regular basis

things are fun :D

The higher truth? The meaning?

Some things cannot be know, they are beyond your reach even when shown.

>>17117535
Comparing realativity to comments on 4chan.
Look at the comment below yours.
Look at 99% of "ideas" on 4chan
When a comment or "idea" on 4chan changes our scientific veiw of the universe I'll eat my hat!
Realativity is based on complex math that you nor I will ever understand.
Einstein said the most important tool is imagination, but he didn't just wake up one day and go "what if it's all a simulation" or "it could be......" He used his imagination in the application of math. He used observations of the universe, repeatable observations, to apply to his calculations. When the next Einstein shows up on 4chan he will sound nothing like anyone posting today. Your flawed logic is an embarrassment to the human race and our achievements. To condense the brilliance of Einstein and infer that your ideas are as valuble as his is ludicrous. He thought before he talked, as most do. You can't even do that

>>17111555
i was bored.

>>17118132
>>17118090
>>17117865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwbNUnl5nqA

"I used to count in millions then-but now I only count in one"

>>17118153
>Look at 99% of
Stopped reading right there. I don't judge ideas by their statistical content, I just them by their actual goddamn ideological content. I'm not gonna be the one to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Pan for the gold nuggets of content or GTFO.

>>17118090
Just got uncharted 3 today. Found this.
> pic related
The pillars.
Left represents female. Right represents male. Center represents balance.
Center one was the way forward.

Like I said. The knowledge of one or the other alone isn't enough. Combining both is.
Synchronicity?

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>>17118851
Fuxk. Forgot picture.

Btw all my capchas are about marking squares with gift boxes on them.
Gift of knowledge?

>>17118801
Then you're an idiot. Intelligent people don't seek out collectives of retards to share ideas with. If 99% of a group is bullshit, anyone worthwhile isn't going to waste their time with it.

>>17118851
Having the same philosophy as someone else at a totally random time in your day is NOT a valid form of synchronicity. You can call it fate if you want, but that's really just stretching it.

>>17118879
I understand and acknowledge your elitism and I offer you zero sympathy for your jadedness.

>>17118892
Don't know what you mean.
But I wrote both, this >>17118851, and this
>>17118090

>>17111555
What does EVERY thing in the Universe have in common?

Answer this, and you have your answer.

>>17119041
Ah.
>>17119138
Structure?

>>17119333
trips gets an answer.

Every thing in the Universe is either created by something else or relies on something else to survive, whether it be a photon, proton, person.. etc Nothing can exist on its own or be created ex nihilo. Without things, there would be nothing. Our purpose is literally the universe itself.

>>17119138
>What does EVERY thing in the Universe have in common?
your mom's vagina

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>>17119433

>>17119433
Only thing I can get from this is dependence. Everything depends on something happening so it can exist. Everything alive depends on something else to survive.

>>17119867
>to survive
This isn't really a property of life. Life happens to survive because entropy hasn't hit heat death yet. It's sheer coincidence. The answer is structure. I'm sure the other anon meant to say something profound, but the fact that I feel insulted when someone tries to accuse me of having a purpose is evidence in its own right for abstract analysis. If anything in the universe is real, so is my pointless indignation by extension.

>>17111555

Maybe nothing. Maybe something. In either case, there's no way of knowing. Just grab your complimentary bag of humanist values, and ride the wave.

>>17112624

Nothing especially pessimistic about this worldview unless that's your personal reflection. Any egoist worth their salt would be quick to point out that positivity in purpose is as spooky as spooks get.

Perhaps you meant cynical though, in which case, get ye to a dictionary.

>>17119901
I don't understand. What is entropy, and what do you mean by
>because entropy hasn't hit heat death
yet.
?

>>17119931
It's a concept in thermodynamics, which is the study of closed systems. The internet isn't known to be a closed system, so thermodynamics might not apply on the timescales singularitarians think about.

>>17111555
If I asked you what is a rock for you'd anwer there are some imposed uses but no real purpose or destiny right? Why'd you think the universe is different?

>>17111555
Our universe is just one of an infinite number of other universes out there. Our universe is like the way it is because of random selection-the mass of an electron in our universe is 9.10938356 × 10-31 kilograms, while in another universe it would be completely different, or non existent(either scenario would alter everything drastically). Our universe is for nothing, one could argue that without other universes ours wouldnt exist, therefore ours exists so that others can exist. But its not really for anything. Its just here. We're just here. No one wanted us, or our universe. Our universe isn't something that was intentional.

>>17119901
>>17119939
this guy tries way too hard

>>17119939
>The universe isn't known to be a closed system
Fuck me.

>>17119955
Not to mention he isn't making any sense.

Also, your triple dubs is Czech

>>17119901
>entropy
>entropy
>entropy


..is a property of thermodynamics. Entropy is a consequence, not a fundamental aspect of the universe.

So, if you're gonna use scientific terms.. at least know what you're talking about you fucking dickwad.

>>17120131
No, he isn't. He's a dickwad.

>>17120177
Yes... >>17119939
So much as I said.

>>17112702
Here, here. I just had that moment. It feels absurd indeed. I can't even describe it word.

>>17111826
what is the demons name?

>>17120177
Well that is just why our universe exists to counter the law of entropy.

>>17120893
No that's just the 4chan mood. If you spend too long on here you'll get a severe case of the sads.

It can get pretty surreal depending on which boards you frequent.

>>17120952
I literally don't believe the physical universe exists, but even under my model where ideas aren't real but somehow manifest reality anyway, that's true.

Ideologically, thermodynamics wasn't worthy of governing the illusory laws of physics.

>>17121083
second this

you gotta have a real strong constitution to be on here without letting it get to you

even then it's good to take breaks. i find it helps so browse with intention

>>17118801
I preech being open to all ideas but when I read something I disagree with I stop reading. Top kek

>>17121206
You misunderstand me; I don't preach openness or open-mindedness to arbitrary ideas. I seek only to open people's minds to the infinite composition of reality. To do that, we need to kill statistics and other methods of shoddy "approximation" of reality to let pure cognition and raw discernment flow like that fluid it was always meant to be. Basically I'm open to every idea expect statistics and judgment.

Elitism I can go either way on.

>>17111555
Hyperpenis.

>>17121090
Why do you people talk about theoretical physics like it's just some up in the air conception that has no logical or reasonable foundation? Theoretical physicists is not just "I think it might be like this." It's based on current knowlege of the universe or a theory that describes the observable universe but still can't describe "everything." A theory of everything is the holy grail of theoretical physics. They call it the "grand unified theory." It has yet to be achieved. But any theory that's worth anything is based on current theory's, the observable universe and mathematics. The only one that can be contradicted is the "current theory." If it contradicts either the observable universe or if the math doesn't work, the theory is useless. Stop pretending you know anything about the universe and stop using theoretical physics as an example of why your "theory's" can even be considered. They are based on nothing but crazy thoughts in your own head. Your logic is flawed. It has no base in science, math or observation. Just crackpot delusions

>>17121225
There's a phrase I love
When arguing with a fool
Pretty soon it's hard to distinguish who the fool is
I know I'm not a fool
So I'll argue no longer

>>17121259
>
Here's why. There are three traits that define the vast majority of the people here on /x/ (a majority that continues to grow as everyone else gets fed up with the complete lack of quality control here and leaves,)

1: Most of them are under the age of 18.
2: Most of them are not especially smart. We're not getting the high school savants or prodigies here, not by any stretch of the imagination.
3: Most of them are suffering from named and confirmed mental illnesses and hate their life and the world around them. As a result, they hate facts and reasoning and love any frivolous fantasy that can make them think that either they rock or the universe is awesome. Most of this involves actively denying reality.

Once you accept those conditions, the /x/ approach to modern physics makes perfect sense.

Its to fight the evil boogly wooglies and take down cults like the one lead by Baba G so we can make the world a better place and have a psychic and deaf golden age and live in harmony free from the power hungry people.
But its mostly out of love just some people are born tainted.

>>17121269
Now there are some wise words.
Thank you anon

>>17121259
Probably because theoretical physics like is just some up in the air conception that has no logical or reasonable foundation.

And if it wasn't, we'd treat it that way anyway because philosophy of the paranormal is more interesting than barking static knowledge as if it's supposed to mean anything more than once.

Also /x/ is quantum physics and psychology

>>17121280
No prob, Bob!

>>17121259
The worst part about your explanation is that you ignored my reasoning. I don't mind having a debate about philosophy or the philosophy of science in particular, but when you say my logic is flawed on the basis of your assumption that your logic is on a different plane of comprehension than mine, it gives me zero reason to give you the epistemic time of day necessary to refute your argument. Nevermind that your argument refutes itself by failing to do the one thing it sets out to do: Form a UFT.

Was is this thread or another one where an anon got pissy about treating random anon's ideas like those of Einstein? Either way, there is one way in which all human ideas are equal:

Nobody's created a unified theory of everything.

If you can't admit we're equal in at least that dimension, I can't bother indulging your argument.

>>17111577
Nigga this is a reward.

You and I are rewards. The pain and suffering are all what you make of them. This is a drug trip, and your perspective is what makes this a fruitful experience or a bad one.

>>17121265
>Pretty soon it's hard to distinguish who the fool is
Sounds like /sci/ reasoning to me. Also includes an attempt to judge other people and kind of relies on statistics about speech pattern analysis. If you have trouble telling idiots apart, it's not safe for you to browse /x/. >>>/sci/

>>17121269
>We're not getting the high school savants or prodigies here, not by any stretch of the imagination.
I honestly believe that's exactly what we get here because they have nowhere else to go on the whole of the internet where their ideas can reach the public eye without someone insisting that three billion internet users all have the same probability of being a genius.

The internet literally rejects geniuses that same way genius has been rejected throughout human history. Geniuses being isolated isn't just a trope someone made up because they wanted to parody society, it's a real thing. It happens all the time. You can't study the history of science without finding a genius going through a fucking horrible period in their life due to their supreme ability to think thoughts that nobody else in the world has ever thought.

You know where people go when they think thoughts beyond what the entire world can think?

THAT'S RIGHT. WE COME TO /x/.

Nobody else will indulge the perceived air or arrogance that comes with being a genius.

(FYI if you want to refute this argument you better have a method of performing accurate Bayesian analysis on a sample population.)

>>17121341
No, see, this whole, "the world rejects geniuses" is exactly the kind of self serving fantasy that low minded people with delusions of grandeur tell themselves. The real world doesn't actually reject geniuses, hell part of true genius is understanding how to market said genius to the world. That's a lie, a denial of reality, stupid people cling to because they want to be important and they want their dumb ideas to be embraced.

But it's not the real world at all. The real world is this : they're not smart, their ideas are ignorant and people largely ignore them purely for those reasons, while the actual geniuses don't waste their lives gaslighting around on fucking 4chan whining about how no one understands their genius.

>>17121361
Dude. Arguing with a fool!
Tis a fools endeavour.
Let them think they were right.
If it's a coping mechanism and they need it, just let them have it. Your post before enlightened me a little. Let mine do the same for you. Then we've both helped someone that deserves help. I know the anger is hard to ignore. But as you say, they ignore anything that resembles reason or logic. Your intentions are coming from the right place but they don't deserve it

>>17121361
>part of true genius is understanding how to market said genius to the world
Yeah, that's just not accurate to history. Most of the geniuses science heralds were picked up by someone else and funded because one lucky guy had a knack for finding talent. You're an idiot if you think all geniuses are supposed to be social hacking geniuses in addition to any other type of genius they have.

Fuck, even without looking at actual history, the mere archetype of the genius should be reason enough to understand the there are very distinct branches of knowledge and being a genius in a few of them does not in any way imply being an expert in any of the other fields of study. That we have specialists at all is evidence that you either have no idea what you're talking about or are intentionally shilling against genius/savants.

>>17121361
We should be feeding their delusions and misinforming them as much as possible. That's what they deserve. And that's what will probably be accepted by them. I realise I'm not that smart. Reasonable but not smart. You and I can face reality. They can't

>>17120893
See, you proved my point.

Rampant dreamers come to play in the park that is the universe

luls

not even kidding

>>17111595
nietzsche was a party pooper