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Other thread reached bump limit heres a new one
McKamey Manor

So, for those of you who haven't been following, McKamey Manor is a "haunted" attraction that has began to gain media interest this Halloween season.

It is an "extreme" haunt, that is basically a form of "legal torture". After signing a waiver agreeing to being bound, subjected to physical touch, submersion in water, force feeding of rotted food and other substances, confinement, and other such things. The experience lasts a total of 6-8 hours. And you are not allowed to leave unless Russ deems you unfit to continue. There is no safe word. Nobody has finished his 8 hour gauntlet. He offers a shorter tour as well, clocking in at 3 hours.

Russ has a screening process to weed through the 17,000 people on his waiting list. After appealing to him on Facebook, you have to be interviewed before being accepted in.

A video he's put together explaining why he is going to "tone down" the experience:
http://youtu.be/Cd1_72Pb42U

The reason this is being discussed is the oddity of Russ's attitude towards participants and his sadistic nature. The haunt was said to cost a fortune, yet he does not charge for participation. He also streams the event for an unknown group in Vegas.

A pastebin compiling some notes. It's a work in progress
http://pastebin.com/sffD1w9c
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>>15346307
No one over 11 years of age is scared of that fake shit blood and plastic spiders.
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too many threads on this nonsense
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>>15346318
Bad b8 m8
if not b8 you obviously haven't watched the videos kek
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>>15346324
only had on thread up at a time unless the other thread is just waiting to 404 because it hit bump limit
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dont forget this 60 minute interview for the pastebin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLBafwmZVjM

>2013
>describes future plans of moving from his house to a fake hospital building on an 11-acre ranch 'where we do most of our weddings'
>wtf, weddings?
>check his facebook likes

Hazy Meadow Ranch & Carriage
15466 El Monte Rd Lakeside, California 92040
>peep it on google maps

so it looks like the mckamey manor experience is now being kidnapped and tortured by a fat wedding dj with navy-level waterboarding skills in his private phobia-hospital staffed by 20 volunteer sadists in slipknot masks.

or maybe its an ARG for feardotcom 2.0
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4Newfags:
It's an "extreme" haunted house. Before entering participants sign a contract which allows Ray and his employees to do anything they want to you (with the obvious exception of murder). There is no safe word, once you begin you're there until Ray believes you're about to die, or until you finish the 8 hours, whichever comes first.

To give you an idea of how serious this is, you can watch the two videos which gives a very brief glimpse of the four 2014 participants. Two of them are crying and begging from the bottom of the heart for it to stop but Ray and his employees continue to mock, taunt and torture them (in this case they're sitting in a bathtub of freezing cold water and occasionally having their head shoved underwater). The tour gets worse and worse every year, this latest 2014 edition is apparently quite bad. No one has been able to complete it. A 15 year marine and adrenaline junky made it 5 (or 6, cant remember) hours into the tour. The adrenaline junky was having a complete mental breakdown and the marine physically couldn't continue, every time he stood up he would immediately pass out.

Everyone is very tight lipped about what happens during the tour, here's what little we know:
- You're bound and gagged (seems like for the whole tour)
- You're beaten (as in seriously beaten, participants have had black eyes, cuts on their faces and serious bruises)
- Locked inside a functioning freezer numerous times for long periods of time
- Waterboarded (a lot)
- Sat in a bathtub of freezing cold water for long periods of time and submerged repeatedly
- Force fed all sorts of gross shit (worms and rotten food has been confirmed, I suspect they force feed you actual shit and puke too)
- They empty your stomach by shoving their fingers down your throat and forcing you to puke repeatedly
This isn't even the worse stuff. In the video 3 of the participants are clearly upset about a certain "contraption".
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>>15346341
Thanks I don't think the pastebin is editable so just pass it on to dexter when he gets on
100% not an ARG it has too much of a papertrail videos from the 2010 haunt and such
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>>15346318
I've seen grown men dance around screaming because some giant fake hands popped out from under a bed. Plenty of people are afraid of plastic spiders and fake blood. Temporary fear, later laughed off as an overreacting to stimulus.

I don't know what's going on with Haunted Houses, but this extreme nonsense is a bad direction. Give people a fright and some entertainment, and let them walk away uninjured.
The fuck is with the 'psychologically/physically torture people' shit that's starting to crop up more and more?
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Is this the same bearded guy with clown makeup on? It's hard to tell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76AFUCU-ZCM&index=17&list=UUsalVbh5qdC36muQ6X_V6GQ
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How many can you check off?

Monarch Programming

1. Abuse and torture

2. Confinement in boxes, cages, coffins, etc, or burial (often with an opening or air-tube for oxygen)

3. Restraint with ropes, chains, cuffs, etc.

4. Near-drowning

5. Extremes of heat and cold, including submersion in ice water and burning chemicals

6. Skinning (only top layers of the skin are removed in victims intended to survive)

7. Spinning

8. Blinding light

9. Electric shock

10. Forced ingestion of offensive body fluids and matter, such as blood, urine, feces, flesh, etc.

11. Hung in painful positions or upside down

12. Hunger and thirst

13. Sleep deprivation

14 Compression with weights and devices

15. Sensory deprivation

16. Drugs to create illusion, confusion, and amnesia, often given by injection or intravenously

17. Ingestion or intravenous toxic chemicals to create pain or illness, including chemotherapy agents

18. Limbs pulled or dislocated

19. Application of snakes, spiders, maggots, rats, and other animals to induce fear and disgust

20. Near-death experiences, commonly asphyxiation by choking or drowning, with immediate resuscitation

22. Forced to perform or witness abuse, torture and sacrifice of people and animals, usually with knives

23. Forced participation in slavery

24. Abuse to become pregnant; the fetus is then aborted for ritual use, or the baby is taken for sacrifice or enslavement

25. Spiritual abuse to cause victim to feel possessed, harassed, and controlled internally by spirits or demons

26. Desecration of Judeo-Christian beliefs and forms of worship; dedication to Satan or other deities

27. Abuse and illusion to convince victims that God is evil, such as convincing a child that God has abused her

28. Surgery to torture, experiment, or cause the perception of physical or spiritual bombs or implants
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>>15346459
17?
some are iffy as in we don't know what he has planned for the "crazy hours" and the non filmed hours
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>>15346459

did project monarch account for a 15-year collection of the most popular phobias which you are forced to face for hours on end, unsure if you're in hell?
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>>15346459
>1. Abuse and torture
>2. Confinement in boxes, cages, coffins, etc, or burial (often with an opening or air-tube for oxygen)
>3. Restraint with ropes, chains, cuffs, etc.
>4. Near-drowning
>5. Extremes of heat and cold, including submersion in ice water and burning chemicals
6. Skinning (only top layers of the skin are removed in victims intended to survive)
7. Spinning
>8. Blinding light
9. Electric shock
10. Forced ingestion of offensive body fluids and matter, such as blood, urine, feces, flesh, etc.
11. Hung in painful positions or upside down
>12. Hunger and thirst
>13. Sleep deprivation
14 Compression with weights and devices
>15. Sensory deprivation
16. Drugs to create illusion, confusion, and amnesia, often given by injection or intravenously
17. Ingestion or intravenous toxic chemicals to create pain or illness, including chemotherapy agents
18. Limbs pulled or dislocated
>19. Application of snakes, spiders, maggots, rats, and other animals to induce fear and disgust
>20. Near-death experiences, commonly asphyxiation by choking or drowning, with immediate resuscitation
I greentexted the ones that are confirmed to be going on at the manor. I think all of 7 - 18 are 100% entirely possible to be going in in the house as the stuff we are yet to see. One of the props is dressed up as an electric chair so some form of electric shock torture is being administered, I think. Compression with weights/devices seems very likely, the hanging one too.
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>>15346368
>starting to crop up more and more?
There's more than one of these?
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>>15346368
Because they've become desensitized to the spoops, so they need something more to scare them.
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>>15346341
interview is from 2012 season
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anyone who's down for a skype group add me
jimmy.rustles33
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>>15346307
>The haunt was said to cost a fortune, yet he does not charge for participation. He also streams the event for an unknown group in Vegas.
Wait, what? Where did this come from?
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>>15346341
Yeah, his land deal fell through at the wedding/carriage place; he does have some link to Operation Greyhound ranch (Mexican racing dog rescue). As far as I can tell the house is the same in San Diego.
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>>15346581
he mentioned them here
http://www.scaretouruk.com/intense-attractions---interview-with-creators-of-mckamey-manor.html

He mentions them in a few videos (asking contestants to say hi to Vegas). There's a post on his facebook from a former participant who mentions it as well.
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>>15346549
>14. Compression with devices
That is being stuffed into those freezers.
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>>15346596
Huh. This is starting to seem like some kind of non-fatal Hostel deal.
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I'm just about sure that this is all a ploy to generate hype. I doubt the 2extreme4u version ever existed honestly. Look at the 2012 videos and you can see it was a pretty standard haunted house complete with animatronic skellingtons and bad actors.

The owner saying that he has to tone it down gives plausible deniability that the two extreme version videos were staged. Realistically, I doubt it was toned down at all because they never upped the intensity in the first place.
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>>15346564
Blackout in NYC.
Haunted Hoochie at Dead Acres
>ATTENTION: Entering Dead Acres entails known and unanticipated risks that could result in physical or emotional injury. Risks may include among other things, slipping falling, collision with fixed objects or other participants...This may be the best haunted house you've ever experienced. Have Fun.

The Cult, NH, seems it didn't last, but there's people asking it to be restarted.

Freakling Bros: Gates of Hell in Vegas [might be the Vegas counterpart to McManor.]

Yeah, there's more than one 'haunted house' like this place. The more hype there is about them, and more people trying to get into them, the more popular and prevalent they will become. There will be some dumbfuck who takes 'extreme' too far.
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>>15346620
>The owner saying that he has to tone it down gives plausible deniability that the two extreme version videos were staged.
Watch the videos of the people bailing the 2014 tour. You cant fake a mental breakdown. It's real.
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Is there any record of this from years ago? I know you're saying the videos are from 2013, 2012, but are they? This could be elaborate marketing for that movie, the Houses That October Built, which is about an extreme haunted house that's too extreme.
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>>15346625
Gates of Hell is spooky, but very much a Haunted House with monsters and traditional methods.

Also all of the places you listed are legitimate businesses that charge money and hav,e you know, licenses and things. Russ just converted his house to be a permanent Haunted Rape House and doesn't charge money or run a business from the home. It's in the middle of a very suburban residential area.
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>>15346629
>Pick ropers with intense phobic responses
>Expose them to whatever they are phobic of to induce panic and break down
>Film results
>'Oh man, it's just too intense, gotta dial it back'
>Censor any mention of what set them off to cover up shenanigans
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>>15346625
Blackout is still "friendly" though. You sign the waiver, but it's just to cover some basic things. You may get shoved, pushed to the ground, restrained, poked aggressively but that's really the extent of it. McKamey is literally torturing the participants. Blackout is a lot more sexual I heard. You might have a naked dude doing the "party boy" skit from Jack Ass on you, you might be dry humped by a naked girl (yes this has happened pretty much every year), you might be groped by naked men / girls but it's still a haunted house while McKamey Manor is just a Guantanamo Bay simulator.
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>>15346347
>Ray
I thought it was Russ.
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>>15346629
I did watch them which is what leads me to believe it's faked. There are some strange similarities between the two as well. Both sets of people make a point to ask where he found his actors, for example.

Also is the fact that he documented the 2012 version very thoroughy but the new version is kept under wraps despite it being ostensibly changed anyway. That combined with the theatrics of supposedly streaming to an unknown cabal in Las Vegas makes me think it's all just for hype, even if I'd like to believe that there is a real like spooky torture house that operates as a front for a reptillian security contractor or something.
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>>wait til contestant passes the fuck out
>>move them to a dark dressed up room with chains and body bags hanging off them
>>tie them down to a hospital work bench with medical tools next to them
>>theyre unable to move, and would probably freak the fuck out due to what theyre seeing, smelling, fearing
>>have "the fat man" walk in laughing with some crazy shit like a butchers knife or a drill
>>fake chops up a body or some fucked up shit that will send the person thinking theyre next

I'm probably a pussy but if i woke up in a place like that I wouldnt be thinking, "this has got to be fake" if they played it right
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>>15346657
If this was fake I think they would've had that marine freaking the fuck out too, but instead he just lied there calmly asking to continue. And that adrenaline junky is a GOAT actor if it isn't real.
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>>15346657
but what would he gain from the hype?
It's a free attraction mang
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>>15346704
That's definitely a good question. Maybe he just is really passionate about his haunted house and just likes having people come and talk about it.
>>15346679
If they were actors then they were pretty good, yeah. I don't know, if he releases some more footage I'd be more inclined to believe.
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Everybody leave a guess on what you think the contraption is.
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>>15346732
Nonexistent.
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>>15346732
An onahole that leads into a box of mosquitos.
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>>15346629
>Watch the videos of the people bailing the 2014 tour
I saw only the Super Mario Bros. video. Is there another 2014 video with victims on it?
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Hey guys, Dexter here. Glad to see the new thread. Thanks for restarting this Mike. Tripfagging for posterity's sake.

I'm posting from my phone at my job, and I have an audience watching a live play 3 feet from me, so...

I'll update the pastebin after these shows when Im home.
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>>15346368

Because the more sophisticated these places become, the more people ask for.

At one time, you could just fill a house full of people having sex with 2 or 3 inverted crosses to send the whole purist Christian community of the 1800's in a terror frenzy. Nowadays sex is considered a normality and inverted crosses are so lame that emo teenagers wear them around their neck without causing much of a reaction.

So the more horror become realistic and sophisticated, the more people are interested in the real deal.

I've seen a tour of this horror run, though, and aside from the force feeding of foul food, the whole thing seems babby tier. Simply because they can't really trully harm you and you are aware these people are actors.

I've even seen two actors apologize to one of the participant for scaring her too hard in the middle of the run. Granted the said participant was an elder God tier pussy.

Basically, the most people force you to do is put your hand in a toilet full of a mixture of disgusting things, make you lay next to a "mutilated" actor in a coffin, have a couple of people yell in your face, some impressive effects that are still obviously fake, etc.

IT really doesn't look like any big deal.
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If it wasn't for the fact that i don't live in the states i would take the McKamey Manor challenge for you guys... you know, i need some excitement in my life and i think this could make the trick.

The only think that freaks me out is... who the hell is watching the livestream in vegas? a bunch of lizardmen in a casino?
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>>15346790
Probably some high-stakes betting amongst sadists. Review everything about the participants and put odds on how long they last.
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>>15346347
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It's an "extreme" haunted house. Before entering participants sign a contract which allows Ray and his employees to do anything they want to you (with the obvious exception of murder). There is no safe word, once you begin you're there until Ray believes you're about to die, or until you finish the 8 hours, whichever comes first.
This is so fucking illegal.
The participants could get his ass thrown in jail if they could confirm what acts took place. Just because you signed a contract doesn't mean someone can commit felonies.
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>>15346740
kek
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Well, the thing that confuses me the most about this thing is how the actual experience seems to be so different than what's advertized and what's shown in the videos.

I've seen videos where people go around a house with cool effects, actors and shit, but nothing in the vein of what this OP video has demonstrated.

OP's video looked like a gauntlet of torture, nota haunted house tour like those shown in many youtube videos. One even had a kid in it despite the fact the experience is forbidden to kids.

Are there two different Manor experiences? This shit seems insanely crazy nonetheless.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, I'm usually in many threads questionning the credibility of many conspiracy claims, but this looks like it's genuinely either a torture resisting training program to screen potential agents or an actual test to see what exactly can the common man go through.

And the thing is that the aspect of curiosity is so strong, I'd be curious to try. This OP video almost seems staged to an extent to give off the impression that these two huge bearded dudes were tough guys who pussied out, but they didn't look like tough guys to me. I've endured extremely brutal beatings and tortures in my life at the hand of psychopatic relatives, which kind of touches my ego and makes me feel like I could do it, but it's actually crazy! rumors of being fed feces? Being stuffed in freezers? Beaten to near death?

What the fuck is this shit? I feel the only reason why it's so secretive is through intimidation of participant because if what happens in this mansion comes to light to anyone, there would be a revolt about it.

I don't know man, for once, this looks genuinely suspicious. For once I could believe something waaaaay more fucked up than we think is happening behind the scene.
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>>15346768
If you're not scared outside of legitimate harm, why bother with haunted houses? Faggots that pay up and wander through whining 'none of it's real, I'm not scared' are like dealing with a Fedora atheist that voluntarily came to Christmas mass. An annoying little shit you just want to curb stomp.

Disgusting shit isn't scary, it's gross. People really need to learn the difference. Last time I went to a haunter trade show there was an animatronic of a morbidly obese person stuck to a bed farting and vomiting all over. Another display set up was a filthy toilet with a video projection of squirming maggots filling the bowl. Dummies set up to look like they're vomiting into barrels are a frequent prop. Gross, but not scary.
One of the 'extreme' places had you drink fake urine. The fuck is scary about that?
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>>15346740
That sounds kinda hot, but ignore that.
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>>15346876
look at specifically, what this thread is about, theres a guy who waterboards you for 8 hours in his remote torture themed fake mental asylum and doesn't charge anything. this is not what you're talking about.
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Glad to see that others notice something is seriously wrong with this.

If you watch the survivors and quiiters videos it definitely seems like the intensity is increased on the long tour.

What is the ring leaders background in the military? I wouldn't be surprised if he was apart of SERE training or interrogation
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you know what I wonder? Have any female contestants been raped/molested/groped? I mean, with all the other shit they do, why wouldn't that occur?
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>>15346942
Doubt it. In an interview the guy said that he thinks using sex to create fear is cheating.
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>>15346802
It sounds pretty sick even if the ones watching are just common people. I also wonder who funds his little house of horrors since he claims he spends 'hundreds of dollars' and his only pay is dog food which he donates to the greyhound thing.
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>>15346948
in some of his videos he states it's his labor of love, he went to a bunch of haunted houses as a child
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>>15346948
It just doesn't sound right. Dog food?
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victim names going into the pastebin?

Steve Pure
Russell Jones
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>>15346959
he loves harming humans emotionally
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>>15346959
The guy must be filthy rich or something then... or maybe the guys watching in vegas pay for everything

>>15346960
Exactly
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I've looked all over forums and still can't find out what the secret was that broke a few people. I just read that some people asked if it was legal.
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>>15346948
>>15346960
>>15346973
He is sponsored by dogs?
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>>15346979
Maybe the survivors sign a contract that says they aren't allowed to tell what happens during the tour
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Stop viraling this shit.
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I want to try to tough it out but I really want to know the contraption. Im not looking to be stuck in a box where the fat guy is just raining ass logs down on my face
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>>15347000
They do.
However, contracts do protect you from crime. If they secret was illegal, a contract/NDA would be thrown out of court.
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>>15347000
This- that, and I really do think they're partially stockholmed. I mean, who picks up the pieces after the guests break?
If he only lets people who have gone through act, then stockholming them makes perfect sense. You become part of the MM "family."
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>>15347000
They do, and he muted parts when they talked about the device.
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>>15347015
Why?
Tis the season.
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>>15346653
Yeah you pretty much hit the nail on the head. I'm all for immersive, spooky Halloween attractions but getting literally tortured for hours on end is neither fun nor safe. They take something too far and they're one accident away from a snuff film
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>>15347025
>>15347016
So we'll never know about the device unless an /x/phile is brave enough to take the challenge
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>>15347025
The "contraption" is nonexistent, you dumb fucks. If you think otherwise you've bought into the guy's twisted methods of drawing attention to the attraction. You get beat up for a few hours, then Russ says something along the lines of "Too bad I was able to break you guys so early, now you don't get to see the really crazy stuff" and they haul you out. Seriously
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>>15346307
>He also streams the event for an unknown group in Vegas.

This gives me a very incredibly uneasy feeling.
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>>15347062
It wasn't him, it was the guy who was so distraught over it and they tried to get him to continue by saying he would have to go back in. It was real fear not acting.
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>>15346745
No problemo duder
You should join the Skype group when you get home! Got 2 people so far
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>>15347062
Nah it exists- it has a name. If it's the same contraption which broke the junkie and the brothers is an extrapolation, but it is the extrapolation all the evidence points to.
An anon the other day suggested it may be along the lines of Houdini's Chinese Water Torture Cell.
Which makes sense.
Stress posistioning, claustrphobic, and some form of waterboarding or drowning simulation(it seems to have the most bang for your buck) were my original ideas.

>>15347068
Likewise, most likely they would be betting on "what" breaks them, or how long they last. It may be his funding, since he's wanted to move onto bigger things (prior 2012 it was his hobby and self funded.)
My question is- did he contact the group in vegas, or did they contact him? The latter makes more sense if they provide funding.
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I want to see a monk tier meditator destroy this place with situational koans.
I want him/her to instantly enlighten the actors with his response to their stimuli.
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>>15347130
I want to see some pyshcopath become the next victim, only to snap and start killing the staff like some stupid cliche slasher flick
>DOES THE MANOR WIN THIS TIME RUSS
>grabs fedora and unleashes a demon
>sorry russ
>disappears
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>>15347130

Real life is not like your chinese cartoons.

The only kind of person who could go through this is either someone with incredible mental and physical discipline, in the vein of your esoteric bullshit monks or some shit, but in a REAL LIFE setting where he doesn'T enlighten people with stimuli magic, but is merely disciplined enough HIMSELf to endure the torture.

OR

A really fucked up person who either enjoy the most brutal of tortures as either a sexual kink or merely as a fucked up thing.

OR

Someone who's experienced worse and is utterly broken inside to the point where they cannot be broken further.

OR

Someone who went through the most harduous of torture resisting training.

There are actual people who could go through this shit, which is why I wonder why none of them did. All we've seen so far are average joe pussy citizen go through. I'm not denying the torture isn't intense to the point actual tough people are broken, but no actual fucked up mentally broken hardass has participated yet.

It's bound to happen eventually. I can't believe this place will go for years without, eventually, meeting their man.

Imagine a guy walking in and being so impossible to break that he actually breaks his aggressors?

I want to see this happen, I don't want the house to be defeated, I want to see it YIELD.
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>>15347175
>Imagine a guy walking in and being so impossible to break that he actually breaks his aggressors?
Seeing as russ chooses who gets in from the waiting list, this will never happen.
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>>15347175
Thich Quang Duc.
That mental and physical discipline...
Have you meditated before? A steady practice can do wonders for the mind and body.

As for "breaking" the "actors-" well, what better way than to make them want to quit by someone being completely at peace?
I mean, you could break them in the same manner that they've already been broken- but what does that gain?

Monk tier ftw.
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>>15347175
The marine claimed to have SERE training, and that it was nothing compared to the manor.
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>>15347184

So you're implying that rather than selecting people who he suspect could make it through, he is willingly selecting candidates he knows for sure could be broken?

The only thing I'm curious about is, for what purpose?

Either he willingly chooses weak people because he and his crew are looking for an opportunity to be on a power trip by humiliating and physically harming people

or

This is all part of a hype campaign.

Either way, I don't see how it relates with OP's theory that it is a test to see what the average person can go through. Unless his interview is really meant to screen the actual hardasses from the average person and his video with the two bug dudes is nothing more than a smokescreen to make people believe even the toughest gets broken.

Something I noticed right away with these two dudes is that they're wannabes. I didn't believe for a second that they actually had guts. At least not the guts required for this experience. People are too easily fooled by the size and appearances of people. These two dudes seemed too stereotypical to be true. I mean, both are big, have lots of tattoos, mean looks and a huge beard. It's basically a stereotype for which a lot of people can fall for.

It was pretty obvious they were just average dudes who LOOKED tough.

Either way, I'm just really confused about the whole deal. at the same time, it could be nothing more than a HUGE hype campaign for almost nothing, it could also be the real deal or could actually be some kind of social experiment. There are so many elements that both fits and contradicts at the same time.
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>>15347219

There is a difference between the training and the field is what I meant. Soldiers are trained and most soldiers who trained, but never seen action still feel tough, but they don't know shit about the actual action.

I'm talking about Privates who've seen blood, tasted blood, BEEN tortured before and seen worse.

Though, those people probably have severe PTSD and probably loathe the mere idea of going through an amusement park themed after their worst nightmares.

>>15347210

I'm saying this become very few people are able to reach that kind of discipline and that reaching a level where you can ignore pain and external stimulus is not the same thing as being tortured.

I've done years of MArtial Arts, Meditation has become part of my training, my being, still, does it mean I could just waltz in a torture hosue and say "hello guys! my mind is as solid as Iron, test me!

You've never actually witnessed what you claim in practice and never seen one of these "enlightened" monks being tortured and resisting it, which is why I say you're just fantasizing.
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>>15346549
>Hunger and thirst
>Sleep deprivation

8hours is not enough time for those to be considered
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>>15347281
They apparently force you to vomit, so hunger and thirst could happen.
Sleep deprivation, ehhh, maybe in the sense that they strain your body super hard, thrown you in a freezer, then before you fall asleep keep you awake. That's not really sleep deprivation though, seeing as you wouldn't become delirious from lack of sleep.
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>>15347368
>you wouldn't become delirious from lack of sleep
Not from an 8 hour torture, but you can become delirious from a lack of sleep. Gotta go more than 72 hours without it though.
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>>15347389
No im saying that even though your body would be stressed, 8 hours isn't enough for sleep deprivation.
You could probably become delirious through other means though, but it wouldn't be caused by lack of sleep even if they made you super tired then kept you up.
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>>15346802
That sounds about right actually. Don't for one second think the rich folks in Vegas wouldn't do something like that.
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>>15346625
Black out has and still does the water torture
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Kind of related to this torture house/extreme haunt stuff:
Whatever happened to that Detroit based simulated kidnapping thing?

There was someone at least trying to run a business off of the cities violent record, offered to fake kidnap people and rough them up for a couple hours before dumping them back at their hotel.
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>>15346980
>>15346960
The dog food goes to a charity for adopting dogs that he supports, if you look at his Facebook page he's obsessed with greyhounds.
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Bumping in hopes of getting a first-hand green text up here. I know you are out there anon, you can tell us, we won't laugh.
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>>15346307
>All this shilling
Give it up m8, no one cares about bootleg holoween horror nights.
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>>15346768
>I've seen a tour of this horror run, though, and aside from the force feeding of foul food, the whole thing seems babby tier. Simply because they can't really trully harm you and you are aware these people are actors.
This. The only thing that REALLY makes me not want to do it is eating gross shit. If they can't do any permanent physical harm, the pain can't be too bad.
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>>15347583
>bootleg
pffftt watch the videos m8 theres something much more going on here
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>>15347583
How is it even shilling? Sounds to me like you're derailing. Why even post in this thread?
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>>15346307
>There is no safe word.
You're really fluffing this up to make it more /x/traordinary. The safe phrase is "I want out".
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>>15347905
>all these people knowing nothing
http://youtu.be/Cd1_72Pb42U?t=8m53s
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>>15346368
>some entertainment, and let them walk away uninjured.
It's like you've never been to a BDSM club or a choke party. I bet you like missionary sex too, you freak.
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>>15346732
I was thinking some next level torture device, like waterboarding but worse. Like, I dunno, they contort your limbs into super awkward positions and then whip you while being gagged. Or something.
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Can I just point out that they say they will only let you out in the event of a medical emergency, but that no paramedic or medical professional could legally work with this guy. Not just that, but this chick is ONE OF THE ACTORS. I've been in contact with the San Diego Police Department. They haven't even heard of this place, though the website claims officers are on site on busy nights. This is all very shady. It could be that the people who signed waivers just truly believe they can't do anything after.

Also, he's ex Navy. If he retired or was discharged honorably, he is receiving income from the military. Military training explains the tactics he uses. Of course, we have the Geneva Convention for this Shit, but it is classic military tactic to break people down and build them back up how you want them. That combined with how he selects his actors screams serious indoctrination. But seriously, how can you trust someone who isn't professionally recognized in the medical field with the say over whether you get out or not, especially when she's crazy enough to work for him?
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>>15346948
>he tortures people for free
>gets paid in dog food
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>>15347210
Plese go roleplay somewhere else.
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silly americans
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>>15346742
The one with the marine and adrenaline junky.
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>>15346768
>Basically, the most people force you to do is put your hand in a toilet full of a mixture of disgusting things, make you lay next to a "mutilated" actor in a coffin, have a couple of people yell in your face, some impressive effects that are still obviously fake, etc.
>IT really doesn't look like any big deal.
That isn't the 2014 tour. They waterboard you for hours on end, force their fingers down your throat until you puke repeatedly until your stomach is empty, they keep dunking your head under water repeatedly for long periods of times, they sit you in a bathtub of freezing cold water for longer periods of time, they keep you inside a functioning freezer for long periods of time, they literally beat you. Look at the adrenaline junky with black eyes, cuts and bruises on his face.

You're not reading the thread or watching the video. They literally torture you at this haunted house.
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>>15346873
>I've seen videos where people go around a house with cool effects, actors and shit, but nothing in the vein of what this OP video has demonstrated.
That was the 2012 or 2013 version where it was still fun. It more physical than your average haunted house but still fun. The 2014 version is just torture.
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>>15348637

The girl is referred to at least once as a nurse and generally seems to be the only one that genuinely cares about anyone's safety in the videos. But you make a good point. She wouldn't risk her medical profession by working with this guy. And her concerns seem to be routinely ignored by Russ and the other actors. Even if she is a professional, she doesn't appear to be able to help anyone. A psychologist on site would probably be more helpful. The latest victims are clearly going through some serious shit.
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>>15348637
>>15349104
I'm bretty certain this *ahem* "nurse" is just some girl they pulled in. She probably read one or two "how to CPR" guides online and that's the extent of her knowledge.
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>>15349104
As a med student planning on emergency medicine, that's what seriously worries me about this.
If this guy doesn't have at least an experienced nurse on-site with unconditional power to veto ideas/stop events/eject participants/etc (especially since he claims no safeword) he's going to end up doing some serious damage.
You know the old saying, it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

>>15346347
>every time he stood up he would immediately pass out.
Common sign of low blood pressure

>- You're beaten (as in seriously beaten, participants have had black eyes, cuts on their faces and serious bruises)
The beating is probably for sadistic purposes only. It rates very poorly as a torture technique, since it leaves obvious evidence, gets the victim's DNA everywhere, often boosts their resistance to other methods, is very unpredictable, and can get you into serious shit if it turns out the victim has, for example, hemophilia (congratulations, you just won a pants-shitting 911 call, a trip to the hospital and probably one to the local courthouse), or HIV (during beatings, fine blood spray often gets everywhere, so if the beaters aren't wearing protective equipment it can and will get in their eyes, nose, and mouth).
This is why it's CRITICAL to require medical history and waivers from participants, and for this level of action probably a recent physical and maybe even an on-site exam).

>- You're bound and gagged (seems like for the whole tour)
He probably knows enough about safe bondage to prevent any problems from this. But see above - if they have a medical condition you didn't know about shit could go very bad very fast.

>- Force fed all sorts of gross shit
See above (allergies), but otherwise safe if you're not an idiot.
>rotten food
Should be sterilized to avoid unnecessary risk.
>I suspect they force feed you actual shit and puke too
Only safe if it's fresh and the participant's own. And even then, shit's risky. Better to fake it.
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This kind of smacks of viral marketing, but if people want to hear more about the practical side of this shit ask away.

>>15349093
>They waterboard you for hours on end
Dumb if true, not a good use of the technique.
>force their fingers down your throat until you puke repeatedly until your stomach is empty
Crude but not necessarily dangerous. Better ways to do this.

>>15347645
>If they can't do any permanent physical harm, the pain can't be too bad.
lol

>>15348637
>It could be that the people who signed waivers just truly believe they can't do anything after.
Unfortunate, since they do have legal rights.
Waivers are only good for lawful actions, if he's criminally negligent or doing illegal shit it doesn't matter what anyone signed.
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>>15346722
>...."maybe he's just really passionate about his haunted house..."

listen to yourself talk
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>>15347163
I SECOND THIS
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Would be fucking sweet if people who went through the house posted their experiences.
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>>15349917

I think that's part of the waiver you sign, that you don't tell about what happened.
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>>15349819
People do all sorts of extravagant and expensive things purely out of personal interest. It's not that hard to think that maybe the guy is just a crazy old fuck who really likes Halloween.
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>>15349958
well sure, but what does that matter on an anonymous board?
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>>15349998
But anybody can come on an anonymous image board and say they did it. How do they prove it?
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>>15350028
True. I suppose I'd have to settle for a convincing pasta about McKamey Manor instead.
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>>15350028
Surely they have some form of document from the place with all the things they probably had to sign to get in. They could just blur their name out.
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I made a vocaroo for McKaney if anyone wants to listen
http://vocaroo.com/i/s07DukK8XAMV
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>>15349987
what does Torture have to to do with Halloween?
even if the torture "haunt" never existed and is just a youtube promotion of some sort for his place, it's still fucked up what he does to the children and people at the normal haunt (sticking them in coffins etc.)
But i do actually believe that the torture haunt is real considering all this new BDSM stuff that surfaces these days.
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>>15350158
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>>15350185
How many people are scared of being tortured, of death?
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Two things that were weird for me were the guys begging him not to bring the man back, and i think theyre talking about the man here: http://youtu.be/Oag3NflZkqU maybe not. however, my thought to the contraption that he wont let them talk about is that they fully rid you of your senses, sight, hearing, smell, etc, and leave you in a tight box for a long period of time. Thats what it seems like to me, but im not sure.
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>>15350197
every existing human on this planet.

but that wasnt my point.
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The marine actually wanted to continue. What a tough motherfucker
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Excuse me but why the bloody hell would someone want to be SERIOUSLY tortured to the point of PTSD?
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>>15350204
I would bet a million bucks that you are right about the contraption.

It's like the only thing that's left that would still be considered legal if the customer signs the waiver.

It's pure Psychological harm.

I suggest you start picking up a claustrophobia fetish to avoid fearing these sorts of things because they can do damage by just thinking about them.
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What if clown and beard guy are the same?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76AFUCU-ZCM&list=UUsalVbh5qdC36muQ6X_V6GQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd1_72Pb42U&list=UUsalVbh5qdC36muQ6X_V6GQ
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>>15346324
It's being marketed, it's pretty obvious with all the lies and defensiveness.
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It never ceases to amaze me what people will do out of curiosity.
Remind me to stay far away from San Diego on halloween season with one of my dumb friends not realizing what it is he's getting us into.
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Has anyone ever seen the Experiment? (pic related) it's orginally a german movie but there's also a U.S remake (with forest whitaker, i think)

Im too bored to explain everything but they put this guy in a claustrophobia black box for hours at a time and do all sorts of psycho torture.
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>>15350240
watch german version with U.S subtitles if you're up for it
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>>15350240
It's also based on a real story
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Someone's gonna die and it'll get shut down. And nothing of value was lost
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How does this count as a haunted house?
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>>15350263
my sides
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>>15346549
>10. Forced ingestion of offensive body fluids and matter, such as blood, urine, feces, flesh, etc.

That one's more or less confirmed as well
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>>15350274
>you will never ever and allways never ever composite armor of the tank crew armored facility generator mess jizz cum nigger cock horse dick nipple shit and giggles ayy lmao rotfleisch roflmao anii succubi suckybus illuminati paraphrases the deception when luciferius the great arrived in the land. 10 mintues later everyone bows down to him and sucks his dick. only adam the weishaupt creates a seperated landmass of initionated people following the opposite rules of anyone that dares to fight against the master of deception. etc landmass america adolph lundgren nuclear powered submarine spacecraft mission order 12 delta 4 echa 3 for 6 is acceptwed in mission 3 a t 4 oclock eastern standard times.bnm
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>>15350273
because rob zombie owns the land there, maybe?
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>>15350278
it amazes me.
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>>15350224
I think im right, especially since in the video with the brothers, they're wearing noise cancelling headphones after they get out of the contraption. and they tall about how they lost their mind for a bit and thought theyd died. the best simulation for dying, i think, would be sensory deprivation and claustrophobia.
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