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Let's discuss something weird. All of you probably know

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Let's discuss something weird.

All of you probably know about Voyager, the space program which sent probes all around the solar system, then towards and into interstellar space. What you might not know is that Voyager 1's continued operation is completely anomalous.

First of all, it has lasted much, MUCH longer than expected. Though it was designed to last until 2025, many of its subsystems were supposed to shut down much, MUCH earlier. However, they somehow managed to remain operational.

The second anomaly concerns its speed; Voyager 1 is accelerating, and the cause is unknown.
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>>14882698
Wasn't it propelled by this super-weak system that was supposed to last a long ass time?

Or am I thinking of something else?
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>>14882698
>Voyager 1 is accelerating, and the cause is unknown.

Yeah, Where did you get that information?
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>>14882731
look out we got sci here!
oh shit!

>the door is over there retard
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>>14882720
it was propelled the gravity of the gas giants. and the solar wind from the sun. I don't get where op has the idea that it is speeding up. it has actually slowed down. because it is now out of reach of the solar winds of the sun
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What is VGER from Star Trek the Motion Picture?
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>cause is unknown
Actually it uses and ion propulsion system, so yeah.
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>>14882720
Voyager has an array of hydrazine RCS thrusters, but they are not used for propulsion, only reorientation. They still have enough fuel to keep the craft stable for a few more decades. After that, only electric gyroscopic methods of reorientation will remain.
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>>14882868
So this begs the question. What's the point of it even being there? What else will it encounter? We know there are no other planets around for Voyager to photograph.
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>>14882876
No, you're begging the question. It's toast, so we're sending it off in to space. There's no mystery to it, there's no covert operations, no illuminati rituals, no paranormal spooknicity. It's the easy thing to do and for some of us the thought of it drifting far after we're gone is a nice one.
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>>14882820
Voyager 1 definitely does NOT have an ion thruster.
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>>14882698
Actually, the Voyager acceleration anomaly's been explained. The heat distribution from the nuclear generators causes a slight imbalance of thermal emission. The this tiny imbalance in infrared photon emission causes an equally tiny net force. And that force turns out to be juuuust the right size to explain the difference in velocity.
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Inspirational.
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>>14882741
Why would it be slowing down in an environment where there is virtually no friction?
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>>14882885
lol what if it crashes into the alien capital and starts a intergalactic war
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>>14883167
Not exactly slowing down. more like no longer being propelled. because a lack of solar wind pushing against it
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>>14883173
Why would aliens start a war with aliens in another galaxy after being provoked by us?
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>>14882814
/thread
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>>14883281
no theyd start it wirh us it wouldnt be immediate but theyd know about aliens (us) and fear and resent aliens (us) and when we do meet itll be the first in the long line of what will come to be known as the Intergalactic Voyager of War.

and we will be known as Voyagers due to them finding a debris of the Voyager that says "Voyager".
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SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
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>>14883167
There are still stray atoms in interstellar space.

Over time, something as small as Voyager will totally slow down.
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>>14883321
1. Any aliens with interstellar capabilities could stop a satellite that size from doing any actual damage

2. Any aliens with interstellar capabilities would have "evolved" beyond feelings like xenophobia
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>>14882698
>Voyager 1 is accelerating
[citation needed]
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>>14882698
>Voyager is accelerating

No it isn't. You're thinking of the Pioneer Anomaly:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioneer_anomaly
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>>14885139
>2. Any aliens with interstellar capabilities would have "evolved" beyond feelings like xenophobia
Why on Earth do people always assume this?
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>>14885139
Yeah because past a certain point everything becomes a wheatgrass drinking hippie, right?!?
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>>14885139
no, im saying the satelite crashes before they have interstellar capabiltities retard and its like their 9/11
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>>14885162
because they think having low species esteem (all aliens are better than us humanity is SO unevolved) makes them seem intellectually.

little do they know its just their retardition showing.
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>Though it was designed to last until 2025, many of its subsystems were supposed to shut down much, MUCH earlier. However, they somehow managed to remain operational.

Are you actually retarded?
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>>14885175
not him, I think that the whole "evolved beyond xenophobia thing is stupid too, just

>retardition
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>>14885164
That's entirely right, seeing as this point is subjective
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>>14885169
The Human race will be long dead by the time Voyager hits anything
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>>14885139
fine. they're alerted to the existence of a dna resource, aspie.

who wants to party with /sci/?
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>>14885181
I'd expect they evolve past compassion for any intrlligence developed shy of a certain threshold.
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>>14883173
If it hit a planet, nobody would notice. It'd just burn up in the atmosphere.
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>>14885195
>a DNA resource

>implying alien life forms would utilize DNA

>implying even if they did, that our DNA would be even remotely compatible
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>>14885206
Would you deny Buddhist metaphysics arent applicable to sentient beings?
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>>14885189
P.R.O.V.E. I.T.
e e u e v t h
o a g r e t o
p l h i r y u
l l t f e - g
e y a y y b h
i t
t
t
y
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>>14885162
Because you aren't going to make such progress when you're fighting amongst yourselves or against others.
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>>14885228
the past 1000 years of scientific progress beg to differ.
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>>14885236
>progress

My sides
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>>14885169

Ooooh, haha! That is pretty funny.

The Voyager IS pretty small but it's also going really fast. F=ma or some shit like that.
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>>14885227
Wow, that's a gay drawing
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>>14885227
It's estimated voyager won't reach another star system for at least 40,000 years
Humans will have wiped ourselves out long before then.
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>>14885248
thanks i have alot, i call them i-paintings because the i stands for ironic.

>>14885253
once again, prove it. human kind will exist up to the heat death of the universe.

even if earth only had 5000 years left that would still be enough time to begin populatining the stars. its mere exrapolition my boy.
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>>14885269
>human kind will exist up to the heat death of the universe
Prove it
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>>14885269
You should call the a-paintings
a for autistic
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>>14885227
>>14885269
They're the most paranormal things on /x/ currently.
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>>14885271
im not the one whom lies the burden of proof friend, i dont have to "prove nothing will happen". youre the one wh has to prove S.O.M!E.T.H.I.N.G. will happen. its simple quantum logic, things will continue as they are now until theyre changed by something.

>>14885274
painting cant be autistic, idiot. and if you were calling my autistic well that just shows you know nothing about the desease because most autistics are great artists. im not saying im autistic im just saying thanks for the compliment.
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>>14885294
Your drawings are terrible and you should feel bad.
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>>14885281
thank you, i wouldnt necessarily say theyre paranormal but i understand your point. thank you.
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>he signs his shitty doodles
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>>14885269

Are i-paintings all you make because you're afraid to put in any real effort into one? Maybe you're a harsh critic and no one is harsher on you than yourself.
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>>14885301
now are you just saying that or am i that offending your traditional values?
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>>14885313
No, they are objectively bad
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>>14885309
yup, these are actually from my post-i-sketch era (the i-paint style era) and then i have the pre-i-paint era too.

>>14885311
no i also write stories, draw physical sketches, create games, and am an inventor.
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>>14885316
why? rationalize your impression.
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>>14885316
>2014
>still believing in objectivity
>lol
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>>14885324
>write stories, draw physical sketches, create games, and am an inventor.
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>i'm not bad at art it's just ironic
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>>14885330
use your words ... yes i get it youre "quoting" me but why? do you not know how to articulate your thoughts?
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>>14885336
>>14885326
>>14885324
>>14885313
>>14885307
>>14885294
>>14885269
>>14885227
Please tell me you are under 13
if not you should be embarrassed to post these in public
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>>14885327
theyre fools.
>>14885333
exactly, these i-paint drawings are not even bad theyre physically appealling and make use or my own version of color theory that i invented. they are pretty - the art styls isnt the ironic part, the message is.
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>>14885330

>"Never try to do anything, ever. Talent is something you are born with."
>"I have serious self-esteem issues"
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>>14885336
>>14885326
>>14885324
>>14885313
>>14885307
>>14885294
>>14885269
>>14885227
Can you please stop posting your shitty art and derailing the thread and actually talk about the topic on hand?
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>millions of years from now
>voyager 1 lands on some alien planet with a just burgeoning civilization
>they collect the golden disk
>revere it as a message from the gods
>forms a religion around the golden disk, believing we will return or send more golden disks.
>in their far future they will have a paranormal board, and some faggot OP will start a topic about the discussion of the Golden Disk and what it really means.
>inevitably some one will say its a myth constructed by the NWO.
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>>14885336
I think the point he's trying to make is that while trying to prove how intelligent you apparently are, you type like an eight year old.

Which you totally do. It's hilarious.

Please, share with us one of your "inventions"
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>>14885344
Confirmed for autism
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>>14885342
i am around 19 year old but i wont say exactly because i dont want my pseudonym to be tainted by physical age. and i would never be embarrassed about something i created. it seems more like youre embarrassed yourself, friend? release that pain and youll find yourself less critical of the truth.
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>>14885324

Yes, but why are they ironic? Are you just not trying or are you disowning your work?
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>>14885355
Do you not want your pseudonym to be tainted by
grammar either?
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>>14885359
theyre ironic because theyre unexpected, i have analyzed the bible and discovered the truth of jesus's hidden system of morals and i apply that to all of my i-paintings. i think those who happen to open their eyes and drop their sttempts at ridicule would see their mind and heart open to the undistorted message that the church hides.

in all my creation genres l attempt different styles, the heart at this genre is irony. these drawing are probably the closest to my heart out of all my creations.
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>>14885365
i dont believe in grammar and mechanics, ironically. ive posted about my ideology surrounding this many times but i dont feel like searching throughout my 4chan screenshout archive (2700 screenshots so far.)
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>>14885350
i would but theyre all on LittleBigPlanet and i dont want to give out my psn name sorry.
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>>14885346
thanks dude, your patronage is reflected.
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>>14885370
>i have analyzed the bible and discovered the truth of jesus's hidden system of morals and i apply that to all of my i-paintings
Brilliant.
Well, you at least managed to put a smile on my face.
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>>14885352
confirmed for parasite.
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>>14885342
Is that a challenge?!
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>>14885383
"thats the goal, buddy, have a touchdown on me."
-TJ Lats

thats what i would sign if you asked me for a signature.
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here i'll post my pre-i-sketch commemorative mural and then ill stop, thanks for both the blindness and the light.
-TJ

p.s. you can look forwards to seeing my short stories in the /x/ book collaboration.
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It's the fucking heliopause faggots!
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Have you posted this shit on /ic/? it looks familiar.
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I think it's kind of funny with the paintings.
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>>14885417
yes actually, it didnt get very much attention though.
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>>14882735
oh please, asking for source info does not equal /sci/ it just equals not wanting to blindly believe random shit people on the internet throw out there.
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>>14885227
I think these are chique image board like and these >>14885220 hilarious.
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a:b
g:c
i:x
r:p
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>>14885451
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>>14885218
Right. Because all planets have atmospheres.
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>>14883321
>and we will be known as Voyagers due to them finding a debris of the Voyager that says "Voyager".
And they'll understand how to read it?

anon pls I know this is /x/ but cmon
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>>14885465
All planets that support life do
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>>14885465
The one's with civilizations will more than likely have an atmosphere.
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>>14885472
no, but its like how ice cream is the same word in spanish and english. the aliens wont know how to read it but they will attribute thosd symbols to us, and use it as our name.
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>>14885475
uh, and pray tell, what planets out there have life on them and what are the odds that a spacecraft would randomly crash into them
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>>14885472
aliens are psychic you dum shit
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>>14885481
That's some fine back tracking, right there.
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>>14885481
what are the odds for life to evolve on earth? what are the odds for the dinosaurs to die off? what are the odds for god choosing earth as the birthplace for Jesus? what are the odds for Richard Nomando inventing the concept of mathmatical odds in 1430? what are the odds of a man made satellite being discovered by humankind and launched out of orbit to take pictures and send them back via tiny wave robos?
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>>14885479
They'll just know our language so many times before they've got our language down pat...
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>>14885475
>>14885478

Not at all true. Life can exist under the surface, thrive off space radiation, and there's so many combinations of planets, we might learn one day that... I dunno, a geyser jizzing from one planet onto another as the two orbit together creates a spot where life can thrive, no atmosphere necessary, just random element combinations.
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>>14885508
all hail the jizz planet!
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>>14885508
>Life can exist under the surface, thrive off space radiation
ORLY?
Plus if it lives under the surface voyager hitting the surface won't mean shit then.
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>>14885508
>a geyser jizzing from one planet onto another as the two orbit together creates a spot where life can thrive, no atmosphere necessary, just random element combinations.
Saturn has done it again
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>>14885489
I don't know what you're talking about backtracking, that was the first post I've made in this thread.

But great evasion of the question.

>>14885493
That also doesn't answer the question.

We don't know of any current planets with intelligent life. The likelihood of voyager crashing into one of those and not just crashing into a random dead rock is pretty low.
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>>14885519
what if the surface is ice, and the voyager busts a hole into it. We just exposed a whole alien race to space. It might be a civilization changing event.
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>>14885533
what if those aliens can only survive under ice and once they're exposed they die

whoops we just killed an entire civilization lol
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>>14885533
How exactly are they going to retaliate?
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>>14885541
Then they would just not leave the ice or maybe block off the hole.
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>>14885544
Not my point. Just wanted to offer the possibility that life does not need an atmosphere.
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>this thread
It's pretty much /x/ in a nutshell
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>>14885533
>>14885541
An entire civilisation living under a precarious crust of ice which only a small metal probe penetrates?
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>>14882698
is it accelerating? to lazy to check that, but if it is true, I would not be surprised if it turns out that the universe as a collective, because its so big, has a tiny bit of gravity.
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>>14885370
>Yeah, I hate using rulers too mane.
The only problem here is that I don't think you understand any acceptable use of the word irony. As much as you want to believe that you're transmitting straight 177% Jesus-feels with sloppy ms paint jobs... you're really just transmitting sloppy ms paint jobs.

You should probably be concerned for your futu... y'know what? Good job. 7/10; we're all fucking meat anyway. I hope this kind of trolling stays on /x/, because at least it's refreshing and original.
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>>14885571
we live on a precarious crust of earth, its just 4 miles thick in some places. a bus sized meteor can smash into Yellow Stone, BAM! it's 2012.
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>>14885587
don't wake that anon m8, this retardness will be much more chaotic if he wakes up.
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>>14885629
>You kids better start posting bears then.
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>>14885604
thanks but i wouldnt call what i do trolling per say, i prefer the term internet practical joke or art.
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>>14885549
yeah but what if their ice crust was their equivalent of atmosphere and our craft obliterates it
>>14885571
depends on the velocity of the craft when it crashes and also the size of this ice planet in comparison to the craft.

What if the meteor that killed off the dinosaurs was actually just an alien probe that got away from them.
>I don't actually believe any of this but it's fun to think about
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>>14885649
>art
PLS
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>>14885649
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>>14882698
>First of all, it has lasted much, MUCH longer than expected.

No.

>Voyager 1 is accelerating, and the cause is unknown

No.

/thread
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Can we quit this talk about the Voyager probe accidentally destroying alien shit and starting a war?

The rock that formed the Arizona crater was about as large as Voyager *when it landed*

It's wishful thinking to imagine ANY part of Voyager touching down on any planet with an atmosphere.

If it's found by aliens, then said aliens will most likely see it coming first and retrieve it.
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>>14885836
>most likely see it coming
Something that small
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>>14885839
I said *if* it's found.

If they don't see it coming then it either drifts in space until it reaches something else or burns up in their atmosphere.
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How had it not been wrecks by space dust/garbage/rocks?
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>>14885849
Luck.

Once you get to interstellar space you're pretty much in the clear, though. No rocks or dust out there to really get in the way.
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>>14885849

Space is fucking massive, so massive that the chances of you getting hit by some stray object is insanely low. You could navigate through an asteroid field blind folded and with no computing system.
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>>14885481
I never said a spacecraft would randomly crash into a planet that supports life, all I said is that planets that support life require atmospheres.
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>>14885885
No.
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>>14885917
>implying implications
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>>14885921
You should still be able to see that your assertion of "All planets with life must have an atmosphere" is bullshit.
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>>14885923
1 for 1 is all we can go on right now
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>>14885921
So you're saying a planet with liquid water underneath ice *must* have an atmosphere to sustain life?
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>>14885926
So tell me, how would life at the bottom of the ocean, especially around hydrothermal vents, react if the oceans froze over and the atmosphere disappeared?
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>>14885935
Probably die
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>>14885939
Except they wouldn't you mongoloid. They wouldn't be effected at all.

In fact, the flora around these vents has been one of the biggest subjects of study due to their complete independence from the surface. Fuck, they don't even need the sun.

By the way, you got a bit of foam in the corners of your mouth.
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>>14885923

Sorry. What I meant was was that any planet with life must have a safe area with breathable air so that you can calmly go fuck yourself.
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>>14885949
You're wrong
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>>14885950
>get told

>"g-go fuck yourself"

OR


>"yes goyim sheckles sheckles good goy don't breathe oxygen or drink water"

/x/
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>>14885954
Prove it.
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>>14885969
I'm a marine biologist, I know what I'm talking about
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>>14885975
I'm sure.

lmgtfy.com/?q=Hydrothermal+vents

Why don't you read up on, oh, I dunno, just about anything that pops up, k?
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I don't need to google it, I'm an expert and you are wrong
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>>14885986
Picture of yourself, your diving gear, and a time stamp please ;)

>inb4 he's an expert marine biologist without diving equipment

>inb4 he forgot it
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>>14886000
That isnt the point and I'm dont have to prove myselr to you.
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>>14886000
>implying I'm going to post a picture of myself on 4chan
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>>14886003
>>14886002
Oh my kek.

Little did you know, I'm an expert lie detector, like that guy from that show who can always tell when somebody is lying ;)))))

I don't need proof, though, I can just tell that you're lying because I'm an expert ;))))
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>>14886003
Fine, then just post a picture of your diving gear and a time stamp in front of it.
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>>14886016
Way to go Sherlock, you sure figured him out, only like 20 posts after everyone else but still, quite the achievement.
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>>14886021
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>>14886026
>I was only pretending!
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>>14886032
>stock photograph

Stop trying pls
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>>14886039
I put the water mark on it, idiot
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>>14886046
Reverse image search says otherwise.

Stop trying pls ;)

>doesn't know what a time stamp is
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>>14886033

>>14886016
look at the times, you are clearly arguing with more than one troll, genius.
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>>14886062
how is this thread still going lol
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>>14886061
I put the image on that website too, is this too hard of a concept for you to understand
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>>14886062
See
>>14886033
Was urforse
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>>14886061
And you're still taking the bait...
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>>14886071
Then take another with a timestamp or else it proves nothing.

Or you could, you know, stop trying pls
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>>14886078
I don't keep my diving gear at home dummy, that would be stupid
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>>14886086
Except I do, and I'm not even a Marine Biologist. Diving is just my hobby.

>I'm a marine biologist that lives nowhere near the ocean
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>>14886096
Why would I drag heavy equipment round with me when I can keep it at the marine biology shack?
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>>14885950
>implying alien life needs air
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>>14886096
>I do
I don't believe you, take a photo to prove it.
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>>14886102
>marine biology shack
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>>14885402
THERE'S A SKELINGTON THERE!!!
nope nope nope 12/3 too spoopy for me
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>mfw when this thread has been derailed like 5 or 6 times - what an amazing train.
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>>14886096
oh my god, that cat has the cutest face ever. i want it
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>>14885885
have you just chosen to ignore the rest of the thread?
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>>14882698
Ok, back on topic, its not that hard to believe that voyager still works, the rover on mars still works, and it was only supposed to work for 6 months. Given the amount of pieces that have to work together, I would not be surprise if builders stayed conservative with some parts lifespans to garner support to beef up other parts.
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Im placing my bet that the human race gets almost completely wiped out within 1000 years. It bounces back as usual and within 10000 years the new human civilization is capable of interstellar travel far beyond our current measure. They will find voyager still within our galaxy and consider it to be of alien origin, having no concept of NASA or the previous age of men. It will be hilarious.
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