seeding with torrents redpill

>>369444

The whole torrent thing is based on seeding, if there are no seeders the network is dead. So to support the network you should seed.
I'm pretty sure by telling you that you are retarded if you seed they mean that when seeding you are a distributer, and distributing is mostly the part that is monitored and then has you sent those love letters etc.
Though that is not saying that downloading is any more safe, it is possible for them to just set up a server and then log the adresses of all users downloading from it. But usually distributing is regarded as worse than just downloading, likely because downloading just means one unauthorized copy but seeding means spreading more copies.

>>369444
>if you dont seed how can people download the games and stuff
seeing is important for the network to work but at the same time it's basically charity -- you're doing something good for others with no benefit to yourself
you invidually are too small worthless and unimportant to make a difference (as with everything in life), so if you stop seeding everything will still work just fine. it's like driving on public roads without paying for a vehicle registration sticker, except with no chance of getting in trouble for it
additionally, seeding is 10000x more illegal than downloading. if you do live in some area where you can get in serious legal trouble from torrenting, not seeding is safer.
the /g/ no-seed philosophy is based on "fuck everyone else, i only care about me", which is a pretty valid way to think about things
note that on private trackers you still do have to seed otherwise you'll get kicked out

>>369535
you have to keep a ratio, not necessarily seed.

Find some crap that you won't get sued over, such as what I did on my trackers, find something popular but small and also from someone without a means to sue you.

If you have to keep on a single torrent for a while, do the bare fucking minimum and fuck off.

Highly recommend a vpn+proxy combo.

>>369535
>>369444
The issue is moot anyway: if you don't seed at all, the tracker will choke you*, and no-one will send you any blocks, and your download will never finish.

Unless you're the only peer in the swarm that's not complete (and if there's an RIAA/MPAA honeypot in the swarm, you won't be), is not possible to download from bittorrent without uploading at least something, and If you do seed even one block, that's exactly as illegal as seeding the whole thing. Once you send the honeypot one single block, you've committed the crime and their bot has recorded the evidence of it.


* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_BitTorrent_terms#Choked

>>369444
They are treating you like a retarded. In private trackers seeding is how you get bonuses, and in public trackers if you have the bandwidth then by all means seed.
They are mostly trolls wanting to meme their way into noobs.

It all depends on WHAT you are seeding, and how vicious the producers of it are about copyright infringement.

I leave stuff seeding for a long time because I usually torrent old or obscure shit no-one really cares about. I wouldn't seed the latest series of Game of Thrones, however.

>>369959
Sorry Rightscorp shill, but IPs are not """evidence""" of anything.

Look OP. Torrenting is a community effort, if you don't seed, then there won't be a way to get this stuff without jumping through ten million online ad hoops and sketchy download servers.

It's not hard to leave a torrent client running.

>>370379
Sure they are. They're sufficient evidence to prove beyond a balance of probabilities that you pirated shit. Civil law only requires a balance of probabilities, so they're highly likely to convict you, particularly if you do something stupid like represent yourself.

You respond to the DMCA strike with "bring it on", and bring it on they will.

>>370506
>They're sufficient evidence
They don't prove that it was me at the computer downloading anything.
They don't prove it was downloaded with my consent.
They don't prove the IP even belongs to me until later after they can bully the ISP into giving out my information. It's a goddamn warrent for ten million John Doe IPs.

Copyright is a fucking joke. DMCA is a laughable slip of paper that the RIAA/MPAA thinks will actually do anything if they throw it in enough peoples faces.
Go back to suing children, you scummy fuck.

>implying I don't ignore any and every letter from my ISP

three strikes a bullshit

>>370546
They don't need to "bully" the ISP: by delivering the strike your ISP is doing you a favour. They don't have to do this, they can just pass your details straight on, or take the super-secret third option of losing their common-carrier status and being vicariously liable for everything their users do.

Civil is balance of probabilities. If you (or you and your dependents) are the only member(s) of the household and your name is on the contract, then beyond a balance of probabilities you did the downloading. Doesn't matter if there's a reasonable doubt, because it's civil not criminal.

>>370613
Any subscriber of the ISP can have that IP at any given time.
Any person can be in that room using that computer at that time.

The only time people actually get in trouble over this is because they turned themselves in, or stupidly downloaded gay porn with metainfo.

In the words of recycle bin
>I'mma just keep fillin' up muh drives
>The ones that disapear when the lawsuit arrives
>All you fuckin suits can suck my balls

https://torrentfreak.com/ip-address-not-person-140324/
https://torrentfreak.com/ip-address-not-a-person-bittorrent-case-judge-says-110503/

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>>370625
>2011
Yeah, that district court judge sure set a precedent.

Quality journalism right there. No unwarranted conclusions drawn, and totally didn't look like complete idiots in hindsight.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2711326

Maybe I'm just a computer-illiterate country bumpkin from South Florida, but why would you ever seed?

Why not just rely on sites like Mediafire or whatever? How did torrenting become a thing?

>>370659
Because when it came out, no-one had yet realised they should sue you, and the centralised trackers BitTorrent used then made it easy to gamify filesharing, and it turns out that gamification drives popularity hard.

There was a competitor to bittorrent called eDonkey, which was bittorrent, but with DHT (bittorrent didn't have that yet), magnet (bittorrent didn't have that yet), no trackers, and a way to search the entire network (which was a single big DHT). It was better in every respect, except that when you added a file or seeded, instead of you getting a pretty star next to your name, and a bigger number on your userpage, and a cute title in the forums, all that happened was that other people got files they wanted. So it tanked.

On BitTorrent, back in the day, all you did was leave your computer on to seed and accumulate peen, leverage your peen to find cool new things to download, let your computer seed to give you more peen, and repeat (without getting sued because no-one was suing anyone yet). It's a classic game loop, and people like game loops.

People like "winning" imaginary accolades. BitTorrent trackers give out shiny gold stars, so people use BitTorrent trackers and accumulate shiny gold stars.

>>370659
>How did torrenting become a thing?
Quality seed. Seriously Really.

I remember the days of Napster. It was all about just and only Availability back then, no matter how shit it was.

However when things have evolved and we all are here, it's now also about Quality with Availability. And the game has fundamentally changed, too.

It's not because torrenting likes to be quality. It's all about that Torrenting Has to be quality.

Otherwise no one would resort to torrents over those abundant streaming sites there is. Torrent service providers will do absolutely Everything in their might to be on top on their game, because otherwise they will be just left alone with their servers where no one will visit them. We are talking about very hard work here. Plus, they are really in the winds of the world, all the time.

>>370650
Your paper says nothing besides
>John Doe patents increased because the AIA stopped scummy lawyers from tacking people together for unrelated crimes

It doesn't even state how many of those filed actually were upheld.

So what do you guys use to find good torrents these days?
Apparently can't buy a show I want without getting from Aus and currently with shipping and all that it's a bit too spendy, in case you're wondering why.

Haven't done so is forever so pretty out of the loop basically.

>>370678
Doesn't matter: if that case established precedent, you couldn't file them in the first place without perjuring yourself. When you file, you have to outline what law has been broken, or in what way a contract has been breached. If that case established precedent, then the filer would have to lie to the court about what law had been broken.

So clearly it didn't.

>It doesn't even state how many of those filed actually were upheld.
Clearly enough to make it worth the time and expense filing them, in ever-increasing numbers, year-after-year.

Is there a way so utorrent automatically doesn't seed for people in my country?
And does that increase security for me?

>>371166
>Clearly enough to make it worth the time and expense filing them, in ever-increasing numbers, year-after-year.

Do you think copyright trolls care if something is actually breaking the DMCA before tossing that in someones face?

Do you think they care if a John Doe suit goes through? They want to scare the user into an easy settlement.

If you don't seed to ratio you shouldn't be using the bittorrent protocol. Go use something else.