Muliple OSs

I forgot to mention

the image i posted are just the specs incase i need to install anything to have a bootmenu

>>314185
>disk management
>resize your windows partition to as small as you want to go
>make everything else free space
>install another os onto the free space

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>>314192

How much space?

here's the current amount of free space i have

>>314197
You'd easily be able to install a secondary OS with far less space than that.
But, I've gotta ask, why do you want a second OS?
You don't seem to understand anything about computers and to suggest for you to install another OS (probably going to be a Linux distro) is pants on head retarded.

>>314197
Open up disk management and shrink it as small as it will let you / as small as you want to. To be honest you have so little space, you should probably buy another hard drive (assuming that isn't a laptop).

>>314199

https://www.rt.com/news/388165-mass-cyberattack-strikes-globally/

Just incase it hits me

since i don't know where the hell it'll strike next.

>>314207
That's cool that you're super scared about the big thing that people are going to forget about next week.

Be aware that Microsoft actually patched that exploit back in March, and as long as you keep your system up to date. You're fine.

You should be more scared that the tools used in the attack were developed by the NSA.

>>314209

Fair enough.

Still though it wouldn't hurt to have another OS right?

>>314185

Basic question is: Which OS?
Windows really dislikes other players on the field so the new OS will determine and provide the new bootloader.

Linux? Then the case is pretty clear, GRUB will become your new bootloader, for this you don't really have to do anything, happens automatically during istallation, installer scans your disks, finds the Windows installation and adds it to the boot menu.

>>314211
It would hurt, especially if you were to install a Linux distro and be unaware of how to properly secure yourself. You'd open yourself up to far worse than ransomware.

>>314212

Don't know but im open for suggestions

linux has been a consideration but after using it VIA a PC emulator (Ie: VMware workspace player)

It felt more like i was on an android device than a computer

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>>314216
jesus fucking christ

>>314216

>It felt more like i was on an android device than a computer

That sound a hell lot like Unity. Was the distro Ubuntu?

>>314215

Help a stranger out senpai

>>314218

Straight from Ubuntu's website

Spare me with your linux knowledge

>>314221
Try out different distros, and don't use a fucking VM. Make a goddamn live USB. I personally suggest trying out Debian (im biased). Try out all the different Desktop Enviroments (Cinnamon, GNOME, KDE, etc etc) and then consider what you like and don't like and try out a different distro based on that.

>>314221
>>314224
You might want to stick with Ubuntu or Linux Mint since those are the most noob-friendly, also remember Google is your friend.

>>314221

A very good distro for Windows- users (very familiar in look etc) is RedHat as it was once called, now called Fedora (get it, because it's a type of hat, ha!).It's what I am currently using (though right now I am on my Win7 system) and I absolutely love it. First of all: How smooth and funky and blingy do you want your system? Because the standard window manager of fedore, the Plasma Desktop has you covered there, glossy windows, effects when opening windows, smooth transitions etc.
It needs quite the ressources though for that.
Or do you want a more basic slim system without much bling but functional?

>>314225
>Linux Mint
OP wants security.

>>314226
> RedHat as it was once called, now called Fedora
???
https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/articles/relationship-between-fedora-and-rhel

not the same thing

>>314229

Redhat Linux was discuntinued in 2004.
The Fedora project was started in response to that and is sponsored by RedHat.
You can very well call it the successor of RedHat which you can already see by the name pun.
The commercial RedHat distro that still exists is uninteresting for the normal user.

So what Linux version is good for noobs like me?

>>314244
Ubuntu

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>>314244

Ubuntu is fine, but not with Unity

Fedora is very Windows like, it has a taskbar, a start menu, the desktop looks similar...
If you like bling the normal workstation version has you covered, for a more simple but clean and functional system the XFCE spin is what you want.
That's what I am using because I HATE those effects and blingy desktops.

Linux systems all have live system versions, just pull it on a USB stick and try it out, if you like it you can directly install it.

If you like bling

>>314251

that doesn't function like android

>>314261
It's already been explained that what you were using was a DE called Unity.

Just simply install Ubuntu with any of the many other DEs.

And, for the record, Android is based on Linux.

>>314262

where do i get fedora?

or a system that doesn't use unity

>>314266

The three most well known environments are KDE, gnome and XFCE. XFCE is the more lightweight one, while gnome and KDE are full blown. Whether KDE or gnome is an age old topic in the community that you could fill books with...

Normal Fedora

https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/

Fedora XFCE spin

https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/download/index.html

KDE version of Ubuntu is called Kubuntu

http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/

XFCE version of Ubuntu is Xubuntu

https://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/

Now how do i install it as my 2nd OS without replacing windows 10

im going to need a walkthrough as i don't want to fuck anything up

>>314282

Just don't format/ overwrite your current Windows partition. You obviously need free space for installing, do you have free disk space? And I mean UNallocated disk space, not belonging to your used windows partition, maybe not even formatted at all?

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>>314291

idk you tell me

>>314215

This is not true.

>>314297

If the porn stash is empty you could repurpose that as a GNU/Linux partition. You can still save your porn in your documents inside GNU/Linux.

>>314300

and how do i do that?

>>314303

Just start installing your distro (I assume you know how to create a BootCD or LiveUSB?) and when it asks where to install it you just pick the porn disk. Reformat it as ext3 or ext4 if you want to make it invisible (safe) from Windows.

>>314305

> (I assume you know how to create a BootCD or LiveUSB?)

I don't

>>314307

Once you have your ISO (I assume you know what an .iso is and how to download it?) you just use this

https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/

to create a LiveUSB (you need a USB). Then in your BIOS you change your boot order to make USB first priority, boot with the USB plugged and follow the screens.

>>314311


Okay i know what an ISO is and how to download one

but i don't have a USB

>>314313

You can use a CD or DVD instead. In that case you just burn the iso normally and in the BIOS make the CD drive first choice instead of USB.

>>314315

I don't have that either

>>314317

Eat shit then faggot.

>>314313

All Linuxes these days come as installable live-systems. If you don't have a USB stick you will have to make a classic disc by burning the iso. Then at next start it should boot from i.

>>314318


don't be like that

isn't there ANY other way?

>>314320
>doesn't have a flash drive
>doesn't have a dvd
>doesn't have a cd
Yes, those are the only fucking ways to do it.

>>314321

Does an SD card count?

i can put stuff in it

also what's up your ass man im just trying to get a boot menu what's the problem

>>314320

How were you even thinking you would install your new OS if you cannot boot from an installation medium?
You cannot install an OS from another one, even with non live systems you had to insert the burned CD and boot from it to get to the install.
In this case you will have to buy for little money a preburned one. It has been ever since the way that though linux is free there were distributers of professionally made packages with the discs you can buy, these contain thick manuals and those are what you are really paying for, they typically just cost a couple of bucks.

>>314323

>>Does an SD card count?

i can put stuff in it

>>314322

If your BIOS supports it it might work, but usually it won't, so you will have to install a middle layer to make it work. To be honest just fuck you dude, who doesn't have a USB drive?

>>314322

SD card would be an option if your computer can boot from SD cards. Thats not a given.

>>314328

I do have one it just.....

doesn't want to show up on my PC

plus the metal part is a bit bent but it isn't easy to fall off

>>314331

So you're saying the only way to boot up another OS on my PC is from a USB Drive/CD/SD card?

>>314333

ANYthing you can boot an iso-image from.
Industrial tape archiving recorder with 1GB+ tapes would be fine too if you can connect it to your PC and your BIOS can boot from it...

>>314336

I have no idea what that is

>>314333

>doesn't want to show up on my PC

Partition it with the Windows partition tool?

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>>314337

These beauties. On these data was backuped in the stone age when HDDs with 100GB were just a wet fever dream that will never happen.

Was just an example that the medium is not relevant, what is relevant is that you can BOOT from it. 1000 floppy disks work too, just gotta get the damn data into the ram at startup...

>>314343

I have a laptop

>>314338

It was partially in (even though it was blinking)
so i decided to forcefully push it in causing it to break...

>>314346

Abandon this thread fucking retard. Nobody in the world can help you.

>>314347

Im sure there are other solutions ....

right?

>>314346

A laptop without USB ports?
Do you have to manually crank it to start it up?

>>314323
>How were you even thinking you would install your new OS if you cannot boot from an installation medium?
He could:
1. Resize WinX partition.
2. Install Linux VM.
3. Install Linux on partition from VM.
4. Reboot
5. F5 (or whatever)
6. Tell BIOS to boot from other partition.

IIRC, WinX doesn't like other bootloaders...

>>314350

>Install Linux on partition from VM.

Are you literally retarded?

>>314349

It does have a USB port

well to be specific

the port can be also used for my headphones

>>314351

is retard your only insult?

>>314351
>Are you literally retarded?
Are you telling me you *can't* write to an empty partition?

>>314352

Well then get the cheapest 2GB USB stick you can find and use that one.

>>314350
Win absolutely hates other bootloaders, install other OSs? Not on MY watch!
That's why I said the new OS will provide the new loader. You CAN actually befriend the original Win loader with Linux, but it is annoying and difficult even for advanced users, you basically have to be told what to do...

>>314355

that's possible?

>>314357
You can read a USB plugged into the other OS, so you ought to be able to write to an empty partition, though it might involve elevation the privs of the VM.

>>314358

The USB i had is broken

i have an SD card though

>>314355

I think he is talking about how the VM is well, virtual with a virtual drive and therefore cannot access a real partition from its virtual sandbox system. I don't know, can an OS confined to its virtual PC access drives of its real host system? That would be kinda meta...

>>314359
I was just using the USB device as an example of how the VM can write to media attached to the host computer.

The big question is: can you access the boot menu, so you can boot from the other drive if this installation is successful?

>>314361

I don't know if i have a boot menu or not

>>314355

That's exactly what I'm telling you fucking retard. You are implying that you can perform some sort of HDD passthrough with a disk that not even the host OS can see. On top of that you said you boot it by

>Tell BIOS to boot from other partition.

But the BIOS doesn't boot from partitions fucking retard, it boots from disks. Disks with actual boot flags, one per disk. So even if your retarded shit was possible how could you add a boot flag to the other partition if first you need to remove the one from Windows, which is a mounted volume? You are a fucking first year comp sci retard spouting bullshit. I don't even want to read whatever idiotic bullshit you're gonna make up to try to cover for that, instead I dare you to post evidence to support your claims. Or just stop posting.

>>314359

Well nobody can tell you if your computer can boot from an SD, just try it, it's not like- unlike with burning disks, if it doesn't you wasted the card and can throw it away...

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>>314363
>>314363
>>314363
Look friendo, don't get hung up on the terminology. I meant create partition, mount in host OS, install from guest OS.

>>314364

I used an SD card to downgrade my PC from windows 10 to windows 8

then the other way around realizing windows 10 was useful

is that what you mean by "boot from an SD"?

>>314366

Shut the fuck up and post proof that this can be done.

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>>314368

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>>314368
Check back tomorrow.

>>314367

I am talking about you start the machine with the card in it and instead of accessing the harddisk it loads whatever was on the card, so instead of your Windows opening something else opens up which ONLY happens when the card is inserted. Cause that means the BIOS can boot from it, it is not just a pure data device but the system can access a routine on it and start a program with windows and maybe even mouse cursor etc.

>>314374

that does sound nice

but i seriously want a boot menu

that doesn't involve having to insert stuff into my PC everytime..

>>314377

You would only need to boot once from the card to install the OS. Then the OS is on the harddisk and can directly be booted without the card just like Windows, and that is when the boot menu would appear.

>>314371
Wait a fucking minute! There's an easier way than that even: create new partition, mount, burn ISO to drive with UNetbootin. ^_^

>>314380

Do you have atleast any sources on what this bootmenu looks like?

>>314371
Not that guy, but an UEFI BIOS boots off of either an entire device or each individual UEFI bootitem in the BIOS. For example, the BIOS can boot off of one entire drive, but if you have the UEFI entries for multiple operating systems in the System Reserved partition, it can boot from those, which can then boot from individual partitions. For example, I boot Win7 & Debian off of the same SSD, by means of 2 seperate partitions, but 2 different UEFI BIOS entries (& grub as the bootloader so I don't have to go into the BIOS every time I want to change my operating system.)

>>314384
You're right, but as I mentioned earlier, WinX is a dick about sharing with other OSes. And as I don't have a WinX machine, I'm wagering this will get the other OS installed. Then he can maybe write GRUB from that OS?

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>>314383

Just in your mind add an entry "Microsoft Windows 10" under it.
You can then select and highlight an entry by going up and down and access it by pressing enter

>>314392

Okay
thanks man!


but first

would i have to install ubuntu and fedora or just fedora?

>>314394

Whatever you like. but just one. You just need one OS. Look at the screenshots and see which you like more.

>>314396

one that's similar to windows

>>314400

Well as I said I use Fedora XFCE and I think it's very Windows like (apart from the inherent thing because, well other system, so no .exes anymore, no file extensions necessary at all though you can give them, bit more reliance on the console, but not THAT much etc..)
Once you removed the application bar and pulled down the task bar to the bottom where it fucking belongs it's very Windows like.

>>314255
Holy fuck the screenshot's outdated. Fedora uses GNOME3 now.

>>314343
Sony makes a tape with 185TB

People still need tapes.