Depression General

https://youtu.be/RiS1xQoQvKE

I've come to the conclusion that medical "depression" doesn't exist.

>>1648791
Good for you. I've come to the conclusion that you're a fucking shitbiscuit moron talking about shit he doesn't have any goddamn idea what he's talking about.

Up. I just broke up with my gf because she didn't want to go living together. Now I feel like shit and need some depressing stuff.

We have been couple for three and a half years

>>1648791
Actually it's the only one that you can really prove. It's about hormones (or lack of) that control some kind of connections in the brain.

When you run out of them you just feel tired and don't want to do shit. That drives quick to depression. The bad side is that docs think that with a hormone-bomb that includes the one you lack of you are going to get happier and nothing else will happen, but actually you are changing all your brain endocryn system because why not.

>>1648791
I assume what Anon means is it's mostly psychological. But it's way too complicated to generalize the problem. My theory for most people is split into two categories
1. Depression is the result of heightened self awareness - the inability to ignore narratives that threaten your sense of security or believe in the narratives that reinforce your sense of security. In other words people who suffer from depression are just too fucking honest.
2. Society is evolving faster than our brains can - The cognition of modern humans began on the Savannah Plain some 200,000 years ago. Our social circle is still stuck in the hunter gathering stage that consisted of about 150 people. Studies have shown that groups of 150 people are most affective at creating a sense of purpose within a community. Anything more than that and you begin to feel ignored or unimportant.

>>1650596
why she didn't want to?

>>1653085
I like your theory, Anon. I think it has some validity

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I found the cure for depression, hope it helps

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>>1654119

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qdk5OhpULs

Haven't slept yet, been awake since early Saturday. Hope you anons are doing well.

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>>1654743
hope

>>1647252
post the remix with the guy jumping

>>1647252
Whats the name of this song?

>>1654119
ich kann mich an keinen glücklichen tag erinnern seit 6 jahren

>>1655214
>ich kann mich an keinen glücklichen tag erinnern seit 6 jahren

German Anon- ich kann mich an keinen glücklichen tag erinnern seit 6 jahren

Bing translation-I can be on any lucky day recall for 6 years

My translation of Bing- I can't remember having a happy day for 6 years

>>1655214
was war vor 6 jahren besser?

>>1655185
Пpыгaй вниз
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6FukU7WtIY

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>>1647252
>>1655042
Got it

>>1647252
Selma Blair is my alltime waifu

>>1657544
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6FukU7WtIY
>>1657544
I've never understood the pixel cup that flashes as he jumps?

>>1654119
well shit it worked for me
now im a normal citizen

>>1654736
whats the sauce on this?

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Dont know if this is what you ment but it's still a good song.

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Think this is more of what you where looking for

>>1658011
>>1658016

cozy

>>1657972
I don't remember where I originally got it from but her name is poppy and she has a YouTube channel.
I love her weird since of humor.
https://www.youtube.com/user/thatPoppyTV

>>1654119
>never happy

>Everyone posting the random shit they find in other threads.
>Nothing that even relates to depression
Can you guys just not this one time, please.

>>1657544
tnx

>>1647642
The feels

>>1657972
Here anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4nHLHDtyVA

>>1647252
did she died?

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Longer scene (more prelude):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq0W-L1KKPg

>>1658444
What do you mean? I can see how it all relates to depression. Except for the Duck Man clip, that went over my head. If you're looking for something more specific then give more examples.

>>1657529
this song is actually sex to my ears

>>1658003
Source?

>>1658003
>>1658853
Found it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXQ8K-lNyks

>>1658454
Stop fucking posting this shit.

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>>1647252
Look up lyrics for maximum feels

>>1658480
No, she runs into a robber and she makes him promise to kill her if she helps him evade the cops. But they end up getting rich and fucking.

Sauce: Kill Me Later (film)

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>>1654119

>>1648791
lol, so my condition where i have to low levels of at least 3 chemicals in my brain, doesn't exist.

I get it that the emo fags and kids want to act all broody and call that depression or fat sjw losers self diagnos themselfs like fucking morons. Fuck those assholes.

>>1664207
girls are normies to begin with

>>1654736
"The internet makes sense to me"
You sick fucking bastards

>>1661407
;_;

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8euDd-hrQk

>>1657886
its a cup of lean that pops up when the bass kicks

>>1664207
where can i find the original one

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>>1647252

>>1653085
The most important point you made is how complicated of a problem it is.

People like to simplify things but mental health can't really be simplified because it's a complex mix of biological underpinnings effected and created by social issues.

I think you're right about the social stuff. Whether it's just because we're on complete overload, coddling society, or overcompetetive society, it's hard to say. All we can say is it's getting worse, and no one has the answer. It's pretty worrying really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LradNrxcVyY

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thanks mom for letting me watch this for my entire childhood

>>1657213
ich hatte noch freunde, einen vater, ambitionen, ein positives weltbild, kontakt zu irgendwelchen menschen, einen lebenssinn

>>1665862
Why the fuck was this allowed?
>everything you accomplish is meaningless, there is no escaping the inevitable march towards death that awaits us all
Was giving me an existential crisis at 5 years old part of their plan?

>>1664889
source?

>>1664746
Context?

>>1666888
Some get wet

Others feel the rain

>>1658016
source music?

>>1666888
Nice digits dude

>>1666565
Jews

>>1666888
Give this person an answer!!

>>1666888

Haven't took a bath, decided to bathe in the rain.

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>>1666594
Bones - Burn it down

>>1667575
ty senpai

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>>1647252

>>1666918
*for jew

>>1657886
i think it has to do with the depressed rapers like lil pump and xxxtentacion

>>1664207
>a man pretends to sound like a girl in this webm with pitch changing software

>>1665802
Music source, anyone?

>>1669267
https://soundcloud.com/totinoboy/i-want-to-subtract-myself-from-the-equation-i-dont-want-to-talk-to-people-anymore

>>1661488
those digits ;)

>>1666890
this is in my head since 4 days now

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>>1657544
>>1657886

The one in the video is actually this remix

>>1666458
ich denke an dich Anon, bleib stark

>>1658011
sauce

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>>1647252

>>1672595
this was dumb

>>1668988
dude it's spelt rappers*

>>1668988
>>1675415
in the case of xxxtentacion it could easily be both

>>1654736
This is my fav Poppy video. So satirical and deep.

>>1658509
Easily the most heart wrenching scene I would say in cinema history.

>>1672595
The mystery feeling that leaves me with is awe inspiring anon. Can not imagine why other dude said it was dumb.

>>1654119
I can't be the only who when already feeling depressed sees this and things about how pathetic it is that the happiness I still get in life is from reminders to be happy from shit like this.
This just maeks it worse all together.

>>1668988
>depressed
>lil pump
This is why I don't come to 4chan for anything rap related

>>1647252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IkvAb6THQY

>>1672595
did she te-quila herself?

>>1648898
>triggered

>>1654119
Anyone have the opposite version?

>>1666918
>>1666565
Grow a pair. People like you are why the younger generations are getting increasingly pussified. Everything is too "risque" or unsafe for children or whatever the fuck

>>1672595
>she told me she was damaged
>I drink whiskey now
Was this made by tumblrinas or just 13yr old wannabe sad boys, i.e. fags

>>1647252
Makes me wonder whether this is banned in Russia.

>>1658011
>>1658016
Whoever made these need to slit their throat.

>>1648791
So you've done your research, haven't you? Watched a lot of youtube, haven't you?

>>1650607
No, that's not how it works. Those matters are very well known. The problem is, that a lot of antidepressants are perscribed by GPs how only have very limited expertise in that area. But good luck trying to get an appointmet with a psychiatrist...

>>1653085
You don't seem to know what clinical depression is. What you describe is being melancholic or a bit down.
Clinical depression is when you stay in bed for days, when you don't wash yourself because it doesn't matter, when you are so afraid of something unlikely or irrational happening that you would kill youself, but lack the energy to do so.
People with clinical depression often have fears that are nowhere based in reality. I knew a man who had depression for years. After a knee operation, he finally hung himself. Why? Because he was sure that the cost of the operation would drive his family into poverty. He knew very well that he was well insured, though. Still, he held the firm belief that the operation wasn't nescessary and that he just talked the doctors into doing it. He thought the insurance would find this out and sue him.

That's just one example. People with true depression often hold delusional beliefs. Many of them know that what they think can't be true, but that doesn't help them at all.

>>1647252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYoNrmJe9LA

>>1666890
Nicht so tief Rüdiger

>>1647252
find peace
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk2SNcpTNbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv2GgV34qIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea2WoUtbzuw

>>1672595
>share a bottle of tequila
>listen to anything or say anthing meaningful

Chose one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5NXeAHW8rI

in the context

>>1681219
>People like you

Sorry I'm not a boomer.
Also how is an intro to nihilism good for kids again?

>>1666888
He was waiting for lunch time.

>>1664754
Personally I think climax of sorrow by Coldworld is more depressing, starting at about 3:00.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgUDr8Ni40g

All alone by saturnus is also great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD1u2qbxppQ

You wanna be a sad cunt bro? Fuck that shit bro. You can be a sick cunt if you wanna be!

>>1647252
>tl;dr the thread

>>1647252
Chad didn't have sex with me today, better kill myself

>>1662725
well thats kind of lame

>>1647252
Powerful.

>>1653085
Depression is low levels of serotonin in the brain, m8.

>>1681286
What you're describing are psychotic symptoms that may or may not be associated with periods of MDD. Your case with the irrational, delusional fear sounds more like a case of GAD mixed with chronic depression or a mixed episodes in bipolar disorder, maybe even ultra rapid cycling, otherwise why do the operation at all.

>>1688518
Selectively inhibiting the reuptake of serotonine and/or norepinephrine might better depressive symptoms. As I would describe the term depression to a complete layman is just "some parts of my brain don't get enough energy, that's why I don't have energy".

>>1647263
Fucc

>>1691163
really decrystallizes your pineal gland senpai

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i'm not going to pretend i know anything about something

Welcome to the Hannah Baker thread!!

>>1647642
what the fuck i like black people now

>>1654745
sauce on the music

>>1686596

Because overcoming Nihilism is an incredibly important piece of philosophical development for pretty much anybody. It's like an age-decoupled, purely mental puberty.

>>1692965
The thing is you are only provided with pro nihilism material in today's medai

>>1679946
you're not the only one

>>1692971
what does that say about the majority of people's mental development?

Also, I don't think the ones continually promoting a nihilistic perspective are the ones producing most of the value for society or doing cool things

>>1647642
the music isn t helping tho

>>1666888
I think he s as autistic as me and he thinks that staying under the rain like you feel nothing makes you look cool like someone who stand up when everybody runs in anime but it only makes you look retarded (i used to do that too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piQ2-mNeTZM

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Hey anon, just listen to the lyrics, this song explains so well how it feels to just want to end it all.

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managed to make one that lasts for the entire song.

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sorry, i fucked up, here you go

>>1654736
Thanks for the visuals for my next concert.

>>1692002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwGHGho3-9Y&list=PL-0mQh3VsYXOxFo6kcj8o0NWxFTrUZx9I&index=16
It's an amazing soundtrack and series. I recommend you check it out.

>>1692965
How do you "overcome" nihilism

>>1694136
watch the big lebowski

>>1694163
No
Explain how you're supposed to overcome nihilism when there's nothing that contradicts it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqu4ezLQEUA

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>>1694170

>>1672426
dankeschön, scheint im Moment leicht bergauf zu gehen

>>1694170
There is lots to contradict it. You're choosing to look at all of human history and saying "yea none of that matters. Thanks for getting me here, ancestors, but i deem everything you fought and died for to be pointless"

If you choose not to care about yourself, think about your family and care for them. Overcoming Nihilism and Hedonism is very much possible and people do it all the time.

>>1694204
>everything you fought and died for to be pointless
Isn't it? You're not really disproving anything

>>1694212
I'm not a pastor or much of a debater. I'm just saying people do it. ultimately it's only you that can help you

>>1691996
those are indians

>>1655214
>>1657213
>>1666458
>>1672426
>>1694197
>tfw could actually read all that without consulting google translate
It's only taken me 6 fucking years of off-and-on study

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_YDZw2utZM

A girl just fucked me up

>>1694528
Women like to fuck us up bro.
Sometimes I wish we were cavemen.
So we didn't have the strange social stigmas and confusion between us men and women.
Back before love was more than just a feeling.
And if you felt it then you didn't care for consequences.

>>1670455
Fugg xxdddd

>>1658495
Fuck this movie.

>>1686596
So they make themselves have purpose. Nihilism is a great way to not care about anything as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUCyjDOlnPU

>>1661488
Those digits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgs9QUtWc3M

>>1654571
why boner

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Jesus Christ, this is one brutal punchline for an hour-long musical comedy special called "Make Happy"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwA77wZ2bQ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipRkxk8BkYY

>>1647642
i watched this on PBS, i wish they had made spy baby move when they were all standing around it..

>>1694185
The fact that she was a terrible speaker who's writing abilities show that of someone who reads To Kill A Mockingbird and calls it a classic, absolutely ruins any feeling that you may get of sympathy or understanding you would remove from that sorry excuse of a poem. All in all, I guess this is what people think depression is now. Guess I really should start preparations to kill myself then.

>>1694204
you're implying that since they died, which would have eventually happened if they decided to fight for anything regardless, we should care about their fundamental existence.

>>1696973
I watched the 3 specials after I found about him looking for the source of >>1661488. It has been hilarious but sometimes soul crushing. That whole song pretty much sums up the experience.

>>1696973
God fucking damn it, this is exaclty how i feel

My friend's bro killed himself on Friday
Friend went home and drank himself to passed out immediately after he found out
Rushed in and basically out of hospital, came back to no alcohol in the fridge, fought off brother in law while trying to leave
Called me in tears and pouring rain late at night walking down a random street
I was out the door from my bed in 30 seconds
Met him at gas station, wife and bro in law took wallet and glasses in struggle to leave
Cashier wouldn't sell us booze because he had no ID
Friend takes off running, chased the fucker down
Bought booze elsewhere
Consoled him until around 4 or 5 in the morning
Told me all about how his bro the badass was busted for the largest amount of ecstasy pills ever in Florida, around $4mil 2 duffel bags full
Told me about family's storied history with suicide and bro's life on the edge as a drug dealer
Told me his bro's son is graduating from a prestigious university tomorrow
Told me his bro told him a week prior that he wanted to die and he didn't save him
Told me that he didn't know why he should even bother since life is meaningless
Wife had a stroke and isn't all there mentally anymore, kid on the way almost 3rd trimester
She called me during all this and I lied that friend wasn't with me, friend told me he'd gtfo if I told her or anyone

If you're considering suicide /wsg/, don't. My friend had enough shit going on in his life before this. I was the first guy he called, and if I hadn't picked up who knows what he would've done. The blackpill of nihilism is deadly when you're scraping the bottom. No fucking reason to commit suicide when you're going to die one day anyway, you don't live in terms of absolutes. Everything is in reference, you were born at a specific time into a specific world with specific genes, you'll die in a specific world all the same, no fucking reason to hasten it no matter how shitty life is

samurai jack

>>1664736
>girls are normies to begin with

kek'd

>>1654745
Thanks for the good feels anon

>>1681309
mein Neger

kek'd

>>1681220
>i.e. fags
just kys already, you fucking cancer

>>1699546
Why the fuck not, though. We're all dead anyway. Why prolong it. I wish I knew an answer to that.

>>1699834
Same guy, further thought: Don't say that it's wrong to do it to family and friends. They're all used to me disappearing. I've always liked independence. I could fake another move, another trip to another country, buy a boat, and vanish. Nobody would ever find the body.

>>1672595

like an adult swim bumper for pseudo-intellectual pieces of shit

>>1681276
not even bismuth is this edgy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHxDhPrVqgc&t=1s

>>1694095
where do i have to move to be able to watch this video?

>>1647263
that hurt more than it should've

>>1699546
cool story, bro.

>>1658016
Song sauce?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnTU_hJoByA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxnokRvrcvI

>>1699885
https://www.proxysite.com/youtube/
Pick "EU Server" and paste the link.

>>1699834
There's plenty of reasons, and you're not going to like any of them.

Nihilism, what is considered the most logical deduction of life and death, is most often coupled with the highly ILLOGICAL, SELF-CENTERED feeling that letting go brings peace. Logically, death is the shutdown of all your body's systems, right? So you won't feel anything after death, and that means you don't get relief from your pain nor closure on your life's problems. To think that for some reason you do is pretty fucking stupid. Let that sink in. You're not even running away from your life when you commit suicide because the moment you're dead there's no distance from you and your problems even though you've convinced yourself that somehow time after your death is relevant. You hit a proverbial brick wall in time and stop dead in your tracks. You can't run away with suicide, and to think you can is delusional.

Nihilism is a fucking cancer on your mind. You will die one day whether you kill yourself or not, you can only prolong it. But nihilism equates a temporary existence against the infinite, and says you're meaningless. And because you were a cynic and hated your parents, which is obvious to me since you don't seem to give a shit about them, you gave in to the liberal self-hate propaganda and convinced yourself that fedora-tipping retards had it all straight. You told yourself over and over to the point of exhaustion that you're a worthless nobody because fuck religion and fuck life and fuck yourself and now you wallow in sadness trying desperately to convince yourself out of it. Which is why you responded to me.

You're going to reject what I'm saying here because you've conditioned yourself to reject everything that isn't what you've 'concluded'. I dare you to give what I've written here a chance just like you gave atheism a chance years ago. I dare you to not even reply to this post. I was a self-hating nihilist for years too but I didn't stop critically thinking like you have.

>>1654736
what the actual fuck

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>>1657544

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>>1657544
>>1700754
God damn it, wrong file. Here's the right one

Girl I've been hanging with hasn't texted me back for 2 days. I'm probably overreacting but I feel so fucking down. First time I've tried to be with a girl for 4 years and this shit.

>>1647642
Fuck, I should probably be a vegetarian. Animals are too cool :(

>>1648791
I'm glad you've never had to deal with it. Just because you don't experience it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

>>1658011
please sauce on this music or video.

https://youtu.be/08Ju7nel5cQ
https://youtu.be/oYmqJl4MoNI

>>1700185
the fact that nihilists do not kill themselves is proof their ideology is a garbage front, an excuse to not deal with the world.
these depressed faggots just want to complain, they want to fed and clothed, not hunt and build

>>1701096
i know the feel.

>>1701334
Yeah, that's not me, at least. I got damn close to homeless, applied for a last-ditch-effort job before I got evicted, and have been living on my own wages since.

>>1700185
I mean, you're right, I don't like those reasons. I disagree that suicide is for "relief." It's not for a positive. It's for nothing, for neutrality. When you've got nothing but negatives, bringing yourself to a neutral stop is better, no? I've heard the "you can't get relief if you're dead" argument before, and I've never claimed that death brings relief. It doesn't bring anything. It's an end to everything, I get that, but that still might be better than what we've got.

I hated my parents for a while. But my Dad was a Democrat, so... no to the whole bit about "gave in to the liberal propaganda." Yeah, I'd love to see a reason to not think this way. I have literally bookmarked this thread in case it goes somewhere I haven't seen before. It's gonna be hard to surprise me, though, man. Kind of fucked up, but I did volunteer work on a crisis hotline, so I've talked a lot of people through their own shit. Just can't seem to get through mine.

I'm not rejecting anything just because it's different from my conclusions. I think your reasoning is flawed. But I'll watch this thread and hear you out if you've got more to say.

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I saved this from some other thread a long bloody time ago and I thought it would fit here.
Anybody know what it might be from?

>>1693995
Imagine that guy as tall and handsome. You would think it's cool. And extremely cute if he's waiting for a girl.

To be too tired to afford to live
or
To be awake enough to not want to live

https://youtu.be/cSPfeTwl8Kw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3N1MlvVc4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttEMYvpoR-k

>>1701647
yup world is unfair for incels

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Why I sleep

As any other day I slowly awoke, groggily at first, the edges of my vision still filled with the figments and illusions of my half-dreaming mind. The fog clears slowly, leaving nothing but the dark void of nothingness as memories of another restless night. My mouth is sticky, half-dried mucus from the night undrinking, my muscles filled with the fuzzy cobwebs of disuse; half-failed attempts at stretching accompany the mental flailing of an addled mind trying to focus. A body feeling in disrepair, as unstretched as the mind beneath it, a machine failing for lack of a user to properly utilise it all.

I awake, a day like any other, I believe this is the second time? I can only presume so, though as the sleeping beauty problem touches, it may only be the second I remember; A brief lucid thought in the haze of half-sleep.

I am awake, not waking but fully awake, my eyes flick open as though I had merely blinked and my bedraggled form annoys me. The second or the seventh time, it matters not, the day has escaped me and my complacently drifting form irritates me.
The sheets flung from my body and my legs flung to the air, I land sitting to the side and roll my shoulders, the sound of the sheets landing behind me is disturbed only by that of my own deep inhale. A quick gulp from a half-finished glass of water I keep by the bed and I begin to drag this half-used flesh-machine to the bathroom, the slight nag of memory and habit at the back of my mind.

The shower, a brief whine as the pressure begins to flow, burning and refreshing as the water flows across my, still uneven, bodyheat. I feel awake again, some sense of humanity leaking into the cracks as yesterdays dirt washes away. The sense of purpose forgotten rinsing from my mind like the suds from my hair, the daily rote of things to do asserting itself and blotting thought from my mind. A nagging sense of responsibility and duty for all that must be done and all that has been forgotten.

>>1701707
Chores until my mind tires, except today is a day unlike many others... and it does not. A brief surprised relief followed by confusion followed by intense thought, scouring my mind for why; I can feel the intense point of focus tangibly scratching scores, searching for a reason, through my mind, brain and body. A tingling like electricity plays through my hands, restless and twitching, twirling and twiddling an ephemeral sense of misty thought congealed into something tangible.

A thought forgotten, a reason found and a something touched, the cause found but the change more concerning, a memory half remembered and reasons best left untouched. A cascade of thought, an unceasing, unstoppable and unwanted flow through my mind and I have awoken once more; Not my body rising from rest, not my brain rising from sleep, not even my mind rising from dreams and into this world once more but my true mind beginning to wake from it’s drug addled stupor. I can feel it, my mind accelerating, like an engine coughing to a start or a muscle bound beast slowly swinging it’s pendulous limbs to begin it’s, monstrous, distance eating lope. My mind awash with old thoughts and a multitude of half finished internal debates, memories flooding through my waking mind like the water through my hair when I shower. A deep breath inwards, through my nose and filling my lungs, through my head and clearing my mind.

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>>1701710
I sigh as the world slows before me, or rather I see it faster, my thoughts still race but do not feel faster. My mind boils with more thoughts than I can track, all constantly evolving and developing almost as if with life of their own. All this I trace through my mind, not caused by active, decisive, action but rather through passive, action through, inaction; an accidental omission given life by the chain of events it no longer prevented. The smallest of things can change so much. Inaction is simply an action behind a veil, a construct of a mind trying to delude itself from it’s responsibility.
A pill, small though it is, changes so much; and I remember now that I forgot to take them. Not illicit, illegal or ill meaning but prescribed; to help reframe the world, to help see meaning, to help to want once more.

Like a car, too long used as a passive wagon, coughing to life, briefly roaring as it clears itself, near clogged with dust from disuse. My senses awaken, now passively aware of the individual strands in the carpet beneath my feet, the contours of the imperfect paint on the walls, the seams of my clothing gently pressed into my skin, the ridges of my fingerprints as they brush together. A mental diagnostic running through every muscle and joint, checking every sense of every part of me, finally a slight flex that stretches every part of me as easily as blinking.
I blink and I see the world, the immenseness of it’s mundaneity, the hugeness of it’s simplicity; the cobweb fractures and flaws running through it, more like sand than fractured rock, some flaws from ignorance, some from arrogance or stupidity and a depressing swathe of problems from petty malice, self serving ambition and greed.

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>>1701712
In that moment I both feel better than I can remember in recent time but also feel the creeping sense that reminds me why I sleep. Knowledge is power, yet knowledge is useless without power. I have little power in the world, I could maybe fix and maintain against the wear on the world around me but could do almost nothing for the damage done by those wilfully ignorant or wilfully malignant. I have power over myself and little more, I see the world and see I do not fit.
-Not content to stay in a world so fraught with pain.
--Not influential enough to convince the world.
---Not wise enough to show the world.
----Not enough to do it myself.
-----Not yet enough to leave this world.
------And so there is a pill.
-------Not illicit, illegal or ill meaning but prescribed;
-that dulls my senses,
--that slows my mind,
---that holds back the memories of what I really am.

Once again, I see why I sleep.
A half-finished glass of water in one hand.
A prescribed capsule in the other.
One small act of submission.
One small act of omission.

>>1666888
Dude had new waterproof headphones or earbuds and wanted to test them. Someone linked a tweet about him the last time this was posted.

>>1701473
How could you say in the same breath that suicide does not bring you relief but brings you from pain to neutral?

You actually mean to say that suicide does not bring RESOLUTION to your problems, resolution which would provide relief from your pain. You actually mean to argue that suicide does bring RELIEF, in that you effectively reject your problems outright, you completely abandon your pain. But the thing that hasn't stuck in your head is that, in abandoning your pain, where do you abandon TO? In running from your problems via suicide, where do you run to?

You cannot abandon your pain through suicide, because you are not cognitive of anything after you die, no pain, no relief, no passage of time, no ghostly floating around in space still having your feelings. You have not been able to comprehend the totality of death, how thoroughly dead you are when you die, and because of your lack of comprehension of death, you consider suicide to still somehow net you positive, to make things better through abandonment. But it should be clear now that dying, like I've said, is running into a brick wall. You don't get time to sit on your life and think except the last few moments you're still alive, if you're lucky. You're dead, thoroughly, when you die.

And from all this, now it should be clear to you just how retarded suicide is. You knew before we talked that suicide doesn't bring resolution to your problems. Now, you can grasp that you can't effectively escape your problems with suicide either, because when you're dead, there is nothing else. No time to think and reflect, no time to feel, no nothing. And to think there is something is ILLOGICAL, which you, as a nihilist who came to this point through logical deduction, should realize effectively sweeps the rug out from under the liberal propaganda that is nihilism.

Anything is better than death. You should know this now. Prevent death in yourself and others, and enjoy life while you have it.

>>1701600
Chinese movie called "Ci chu yu bi chu" google image search does magic.

>>1647252
https://youtu.be/Rc2OvrpzjvM?t=76

>>1702769
"Sometimes I don't talk to nobody. Don't talk for hours, for days, sometimes weeks..."

>>1702209
Now you're claiming you know what I meant to say? You're claiming you know what I mean better than I do? Sorry, but you're putting words in my mouth rather than listening and taking me at face value. It's not like I have a reason to lie to somebody that could be on the opposite side of the globe.

It sounds like your central claim is that any purposeful, earlier-than-nature-would-cause death is automatically worse than anything one can experience in life. ("Anything is better than death," as you said.) People put down pets. Cancer patients who experience daily, insufferable pain request euthanasia. Victims of medieval torture begged to be allowed to die. Unless you're willing to say that people who see their pets suffering are wrong to take them to the vet to put them to sleep and that suffering terminally ill are wrong to request euthanasia and that victims of inhumane cruelty are wrong to wish they could stop living, then you're just making false generalizations. I'm hardly saying that death is ALWAYS better than life. Doesn't mean life is ALWAYS better than death. Both claims are false.

>>167259
I liked it, anon. Saved it even.

>>1703078
>your central claim is that any purposeful, earlier-than-nature-would-cause death is automatically worse than anything one can experience in life.
Death is bad regardless of how natural it is. And you're right to point out euthanasia, because we've concluded through logical deduction today that euthanasia is not useful in alleviating pain, mainly because the effects of liberation cannot be enjoyed. People are killing their pets and killing themselves for the assumed relief of death, but if there is no afterlife, then there is no relief, and people have to begin using other reasons such as expense of medical care to justify euthanasia.

>>1657544
BOMBO KLAAAAA

>>1703296
What logical deductions? You haven't actually made any sound and logical syllogism that proves this. You have no evidence or demonstrations to prove this. You have provided no rational reason to believe what you are claiming besides repeating that it's true. If one hypothetical person's life is nothing but pain, no pleasure, zero incentive to live, why should they have any interest in living that life?

>>1703362
Like I've said several times now, the logical deduction is this: because you are not cognitive, not aware, unfeeling, truly dead in all ways when you are dead, then you cannot, because you are not cognitive, not aware, unfeeling, truly dead in all ways when you are dead, feel the relief of abandoning your problems when you die. Therefore, suicide does not relieve you of your problems or pain.

And yes, this does mean that all those people who have committed suicide, euthanized their pets, taken others off life support, or flat out killed others all to end suffering cannot justify their actions based purely on ending pain. Welcome to the redpill of suicide, enjoy your stay (you're not here forever).

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>>1702209
Your post reeks of fear of death. We all die, it's time to embrace it, you should only fear the unknown and unexpected. Death is certain, in fact it's the only certainty we have in this world. Don't fear death, embrace it.

>>1703393

You can't feel the relief of abandoning your problems when you die, but neither can you experience those problems in any way. If you believe that there is no after life of any kind, which you seem to imply, then death is a complete end to suffering, as you lose all capacity to suffer. The loss of the capacity for suffering can be said to be a "relief" of sorts of your problems and pain.

You have two dissonant ideas kicking around in that empty head of yours. If the universe is purely materialistic, and a cognitive being suffers as a result of its existence, then suicide puts an end to that beings suffering by definition because that being no longer exists, and therefor loses all capacity to suffer.

The only way it could commit suicide without losing that capacity, would be if there were some sort of afterlife. It has to be one or the other.

>>1703415
Nice edge, and nice assumption there too boyo. If you're trying to disqualify any of what I've said then nice ad hominem too. I could equally say that you're suicidal, a manic depressive that is begging for the end, a pathetic neckbeard fedora who is so typically beta, insecure, and undeveloped in all facets of life that he has to use the infinity of time and space to disqualify others' achievements into oblivion just to keep from irrationally ending his own life, which he knows full well would be a godsend to his "friends" and family. Which is, funnily enough, at least somewhat accurate, unlike what you've said.

Tell me, am I disallowed from embracing death while actively avoiding it?

>>1703425
You still COMPLETELY fail to comprehend that a dead person has no perspective and no ability to be cognizant whatsoever. Maybe I've been weakly explaining it to you from the perspective of a dead person. Here's a better explanation:

When a person dies, their brain, heart, and other vital organs stop functioning. Completely. At this point you have to start drawing the line if this is even a person anymore, because the body almost immediately after death begins to rot. Is it still a person 30 seconds after death? A day? A month? A year? 15 years? By 15 years the pile of flesh and bone has definitely completely rotted away, and obviously you can't call that a person right? What about cremation, are the ashes still a person to you?

You have not accepted the totality of death. The ashes cannot feel. The rotting flesh cannot feel. The body that's been dead for 30 seconds cannot feel. It is all the same total lack of feeling and cognition. The shit you take with the digested remains of what was once a living breathing chicken cannot feel or think just the same as you dead for 30 seconds can't. There is no difference.

Maybe here is where you understand what I've been trying to say all along. The finality of death, the true end, cannot lend "you" as a pile of flesh the relief you seek. "You" cease to even exist except as rotting flesh.

>>1703443

You are playing a very weird word game with yourself and your concepts are fundamentally flawed. I imagine you are the sort of person who fancies himself intelligent because when he gets into an argument he just keeps talking until the other person realizes they are talking to a lunatic, or a fool, and walks away.

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>>1672446
>>1701268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naV2N1K0A3g jinsang - feelings

>>1703520
You were never open to a different idea on this. I have given you what you asked and more, I've ignored your personal attacks, and I've used pure logical deduction throughout to avoid bias completely. But you were blatantly lying here, including to yourself >>1699834
>I wish I knew an answer to that.

You can have the final word, I'm done monitoring and only the anons here will read it, but I'll just say this. I was once a thoroughly convinced nihilist too who knew he was totally right, and also leaning towards suicide because nothing matters so I might as well just end it. Nothing but a purely rational deduction would convince me otherwise, but here I am, on the other side of the fence.

>>1657544
reminds me this voice, why God make this kind female voice soo cute for my ears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd5jpVLJGWg

>>1664746
tfw it hails the same day you planned to shoot up the school

>>1681021
underrated post

>>1654119
>alway rember happy day
what if i cant rember happy day?

>>1647263
:(

>>1658016
This actually made my day, never seen this one before.
Thanks anon.

>>1665848
lol

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>>1647642
tried so hard to find the music from this, i can't find a soundtrack or anything for it anywhere though. i really wish they would publish it. it's so good.

>>1703393

Main reason this deduction is not valid: equivocation fallacy. Using different definitions of "relief" in different parts of the arguments above.

Two definitions of relief:
1) a feeling of reassurance and relaxation following release from anxiety or distress.
2) the alleviation or mitigation of pain, discomfort, or distress.

This guy's using definition 1, as far as I can tell from context clues, during his premises, then definition 2 in the conclusion. Since it's a point of confusion, I'll avoid the word.

Correct syllogism:
(Major premise): Death removes the ability to feel anything.
(Minor premise): By definition, going from feeling to not feeling pain, discomfort, or distress means those stimuli are alleviated or mitigated.
(Conclusion): Death alleviates pain, discomfort, and distress.

>>1696973
Bo Burnham is so good

>>1703552

>says someone isn't open to your ideas
>claims they're a lunatic or fool

>says someone's a fedora-tipping neckbeard
>"You can have the final word, I'm done monitoring"

cool story

>>1704972

I'd fuck him.

>>1696973
Holy shit

https://soundcloud.com/itzrutty/notorious-big-suicidal-thoughts-nuck-chorris-remix

Does anyone have the webm of the man taking about his students having doubt about what they want to be in their future?

>>1694133
song is good
faggots making a music video and doing a play for it is gay
they are literally all faggots

Does anybody have the one anime clip where the girl is yelling at the guy, but the subtitles say she is talking about him browsing 4chan

>>1704215
fuck

>>1666888
He is probably waiting for someone who doesnt care about him

>>1654736
the guy behind this is brilliant

>>1666890
Yeah nigger but he is clearly waiting for something

>>1694028
>Cunt singing.
Immediately stopped. Women have no real problems.

My cidos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbXNrExTqrI&t=199s

>>1704282
Ah fuck

>>1654745
Can i possible get a name for song?

>>1694238
what's the point

>>1704282
This is exactly how I feel.

I don't want to disappoint my family any more or let them down any more or shame them any more than I already have by committing suicide.

I just want to vanish, get hit by a bus or just fucking disappear off the face of the earth.

>>1709889
:(

>>1654736
My blood pressure spikes when she says A-OK

>>1654752
KEKSIMUS MAXIMUS!!!!xdddd

>>1694136
Accept the meaninglessness and randomness of the universe around you and make your own importance in what you do and who you do it with. Only then can you live happily and realize the true meaning of life.

(high as fuck right now)

>>1717556
Existentialism, in other words.

>>1662722
>not even so you wanna be a superhero
better depression song tbqh

>>1700755
I wish more things showed suicide like this.
Something wonderful and beautiful that only the truly breve ones can have.

I hope to overcome my weakness and jump some day.

>>1717714
In dealing more with the psychosis of major depression, sure. But I think the lyrics of Blessed Arms are much more aesthetic.

>>1701334
but also why not live? as in take no action.
as much as you(hypothetical nihilist) don't care eating a chicken sandwich is lees effort than eating a bullet. If your saying nihilism is silly,I don't have much of an argument against your point.
>>1700185
>ILLOGICAL, SELF-CENTERED
Nihilism does seem harmful to people that may care about you.

>>1694410
4 years here. What a pointless waste of time for a hobby we have.

>>1702769
IIRC in the book Rambo kills himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm-NW1RwPY8

>>1717949
That was the original movie ending.
Test audiences got very angry over that.
It was a hanging,in the '70's style of movies that may have been visually graphic.

>>1709889
Move.
You only have to go about 2 hours away and you will never see anybody you know.
Start over or end it.
Try starting over first. the people in your life that you want gone...you will never stumble upon them again,even just 2 hours off traffic away.
Also,go for a walk at night with no destination.
Good luck.

>>1704215
>james doohan
He took machine gun fire,saw friends die,I don't think he ever spoke of it.(watch old episodes,one of his hands are never on screen...missing fingers)
But this near loss brings teh feels to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61CDE_lRIJk

>>1718103
Song?

>>1718033
ak47 was the goat cs1.6

>>1698774
This one always makes me sad

>>1717556
>make your own importance in what you do and who you do it with
In other words, the cure for nihilism is delusion.

>>1719818
>cure for nihilism is delusion.
is more cats

>>1704484
If you're really feeling down, you can't remember how to feel different, or it seems like a joke or an illusion. So the next time you feel okay or somewhat in order, make a mental note to yourself like "I feel okay right now. It is possible to feel good and the world doesn't seem so bad."

the next time you go down again, you'll forget how it was to feel okay, but you'll remember the mental note. So you can trust yourself that it is possible, because you said those words. We can't remember feelings in the same way as facts or thoughts, for some reason, so it's like we have emotional amnesia, so you need to make mental notes in order to navigate.

>>1662722
Fuck, I love them

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>>1694195
i wish antidepressants worked like that

>>1721064
This one always gets me.

This one too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IURAKQV7q_o

My personal recommendation for dealing with depression is meditation. You can do it from a position of extreme self-hate and desperation. It doesn't take much effort and its okay to just start with 10m. To me it makes an incredible difference.

>>1699900
>>1666909
Found it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VowtyQeA9oc

>>1694136
>>1694170
>>1694212
why dont you actually read a philosophy book sometime instead of the wikipedia page for nihilism you 14 year old retard

>>1699838
I tried to vanish once.
They found me somehow, my fault, I told a friend what I was doing.
Next time I will be silent.

>>1721103
I wished antidepressants worked

>>1721109
teach me master
i am so deep in apathy that i do not even eat

>>1718103
This sounds really good.. whats the song??

>>1717729
Suicide isn't brave though. It's the easy way out. Sure its not easy working up the nerve to jump, but its a hell of a lot harder to find the courage to face all of the fucked up shit that put you in that emotional state in the first place and do something about it. Suicide is cowardly and all it does is depress people around you and make them feel like shit. If you want to go out, go out with a band and accomplish something. Don't be a little bitch who glorifies edgy yellow-bellied cowardice. Go fight ISIS or some shit. Just don't ruin a street cleaner's day when he has to clean anon-gunk off the fucking curb.

>>1721103
maybe you're on the wrong ones, took me a few trials with different types to get the dose / combination right

>>1721230
they do work if the cause is environmental, regular visits to a health practitioner is essential for getting it right

>>1721419
>street cleaner
the fire brigade handles it in 1st world countries and don't preemptively judge based on assumptions

>>1654119
made me cry blood

>>1664404
Kek so hard it became suicide

>>1700755
salsa on this anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkHdb9QBfZQ

>>1721419
I don't believe somebody should kill themselves, and I do hope anyone feeling suicidal in this thread seeks out and receives help, but I don't think it is the easy way out. Our bodies and minds have been programmed to resist pain, to resist destruction. Attempting to purposefully hurt oneself is difficult, due to this. Imagine the pain someone must feel to overcome this.


Suicide is an understandable reaction to extreme circumstances, when viewed from an emic perspective. As an outsider, it does appear selfish, as the afflicted individual's actions can permanently scar those closest to them; but remember, this individual most likely knew of that outcome. And they killed themselves regardless. That is not something done on a whim, and certainly not something done lightly. Also, it is very difficult for these individuals to complete the most menial of tasks (assuming depression), and so embarking on a mission to defeat a global terror organization is probably out of their reach.

As an aside (and without any ill will towards you), why don't you go fight ISIS? Or me? Its odd that we see problems in the world around us, but feel powerless to change these things ourselves.

>>1719818
No, its self determination. Creating something in the void of nothingness. Willing your purpose into being.

>>1717729
You're a fucking pussy, go the fuck outside for once.

>>1719745
>>1719757
funky visuals

>>1721815
it was one of the short films from the animatrix umm if i remember correctly they were a bunch of anime describing the origins to the matrix films

>>1717729
faggot

>>1721815
>>1725393

It's also the sauce of that gif where a group of men are beating up a woman and her face reveals that she was a robot

>>1680696
damn
what an experience this game was, truly classic