Stalin Appeciation Thread

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sieg heil

>>1099217
lol what a clown. Glad we stomped all over his troops while they froze to death in the motherland!

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hail

>>1099217
>>1099227
Fascists get out.

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>>1099225
Germany needed the whole world against them to fail. The soviet union kiled itself

>>1099237
The soviet union was fucked by traitor revisionists who came into power after Stalin. The majority of Russian citizens want the union back,

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>commies

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>>1099252
>fascists

>>1099242
Not after Stalin. Stalin was the one who fucked Communism over and pushed away from Lenin's vision.

>>1099262
>if you're not communist you are fascist! xD

Yup, goes to show how retarded commies truly are.

>>1099262
>mfw both of them got keked by the jews so there's no point in you retards arguing at all when you're all losers

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>>1099211
communism does not work, hang up your fedora, shave your neck beard and get a job.

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>>1099242
>>1103407
"make communism great again"
Communism was never great, nor will ever be. look at Latin America, Chile is the best country to live in and has the freest economy. Venezuela is collapsing rn because that shitty system dont work.

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lel

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2016/05/30/nyt-venezuelan-socialism-has-pretty-much-shut-down-all-aspects-of-socioeconomic-life-n2171010

get a job and pay your own bills you fucking disgraceful vermin

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>>1099211
>Make a thread of a loser who destroyed europe and killed himself like a faggot
OHH!!! Such a great man, truly my hero.

>Make a thead about the man who saved his country, gulaged all the bolshevik jews and beat Hitler to the balls
COMMIES GTFO, GOMMUNISM IS SHEEI NIGGA, MUH WHITE PRUUDE.

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Seriously, every single one of you.

>communists
faggots
>facists
also faggots

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>>1103437
>assuming he's a communist

>>1103407
>away from Lenin's vision
>Communism is a religion and its followers must never stray from the teachings of its prophet Lenin (as interpreted by his greatest disciple and rightful heir Trotsky)

>>1110080
>a lesson on history and politics from the guy who calls himself an anarchist while sheepdogging for the Democrats and defending the two-party system

>>1113148
well, usually when the self appointed totalitarian leader strays away from the core beliefs that his predecessor's army fought and died for, yeah it's a little fucked up. Not saying that Lenin's idea were good and all, just saying that hundreds of thousands of people dying for what they believe in and then getting something that is simply a facade of what the """government""" promised is just awful.

I've heard a conspiracy theory that says Stalin was actually a military plant

>>1103407
>thinking Lenin was a commie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxhT9EVj9Kk

>>1099211
Music sauce is The Bridge of Khazad Dum from the Lord of the Rings score, just in case anyone was wondering.

>>1107754

thats in norway fool

>>1103407
Go ahead and tell us what Lenin's "vision" was.

>>1116434
Yeah. Yeah. That actually sums him up pretty well.

>>1099211
Stalin Appreciation Thread? Fucking why, dude's literal only contribution to WWII was marching 50 million people to their deaths because that was his version of a tactical way to stop the Germans.

>>1121714

You do realise that Russia won WW2, right?

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>>1099217
>>1099227
>>1099237
>>1099252
>>1103437
>>1106946
>>1107704
>>1107754
>>1107791
>>1109647
>>1110085
>>1113176
>>1121714
Try one of these next time

>>1121714
Is it his fault that germans were dumb enough to attack russia ?
Btw those millions lives were payed with the rape of germans women by soviet and is still being payed today thanks to rapefugees.
I can't wait to see german becoming a muslim territory.

>>1106932

This is great. Sauce please.

Communism is in itself a flawed system. It cannot contain the wants of human beings

>>1123672
Danger five, aussie show

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>>1099237
>Germany declares war on entire world ((Again))
>Somehow not shows their ideology sucked ((Again))

>>1130230
Stalin should really also leave the game as the war ended shortly after he died.

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>Stalin

Literary the devil in human flesh

>hated by his own people
>work camps
>died in his bed because all the guards where to scared to get killed
>killed millions of good men for nothing

>Hitler

>saved germany after ww1
>loved by his people
>did wondefull things for his country
>died after a lost couse to safe europe

>>1130307
Hello Goebbels.

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>>1130307
>>hated by his own people
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/dec/29/stalin-name-of-russia

>>1130307
>>Hitler
>>saved germany after ww1
>>loved by his people
>>did wondefull things for his country
>>died after a lost couse to safe europe
Do you mean :
>destroyed the remnants of nationalism
>directly responsible for the current sjw era
>let the most intelligent minds of germany get taken by russia
>let german woman get raped by russia and america
>killed millions of people for no accomplishment whatsoever
>is directly responsible for the creation of israel and part of current arab related conflicts

hitler was an idiot who could only lead a country through warmongering and demagogie, he was a fool and destroyed europe.

the third reich is a joke compared to the urss who at leasts has surviving and prosperous descendants, such as China and Vietnam.

>>1107704
Reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGdSpcMisk8&list=PLE473037637E3F77C

>>1099211
> Posting commie webms
> Cucking your own culture / religion / people
> being this degenerate
gross.

>>1099262
This looks like it would be from The IT Crowd, but I don't seem to recall the scene. Any chance someone could help a fella out?

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>>1121714
>marching 50 million people
Most of the casualties were actually civilians who was killed, raped (wich is thousands times more then of those poor crying german whores) and tortured in camps by nazi Krauts.
There were much less casualties among combatants. So the reason of so many dead people in Russia is the genocidical plan of Hitler to erradicate local population.
Why the whole politics of Stalin is still debatable, his victorious contribution as a leader of USSR in WWII is undeniable. Success is never blamed. Victors don't have to justify themselves.

But overall yes communism doesn't work.

TANKIES GET OUT REEEEEEEEE

ITT: cucks

>>1107754
Chile has nationalised mines but believe whatever you feel like lol

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>>1141237
*classcucks
ftfy

>>1110080
>Chomsky will die in the relatively near future

He will leave a hole so big, the world will be so much worse :(

>>1141297
zizek is better t(b)h

>>1141383
sounds like something a tankie would say

>>1141387
what the fuck does zizek have to do with tankies
i'm a leftcom

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Communism=a stateless, classless, moneyless society based around workers owning and controlling their means of production and deciding how the yields are distributed amongst them

Tell me

1. Where this has happened in the world

2. Why this is bad

>my face when almost nobody here will be knowledgeable enough to answer one of these questions, much less two and will get butthurt that I even made this post because /pol/ cucked them with shittily-sourced meme blogs and infographs

>>1141401
Tell me how it will work first.

>>1141401

>communism is an unachievable, contradictory, economically impossible fantasy
>every time it was tried it resulted in genocidal nightmares

>>huehuehue communism is great, it's just never been tried lol

>>1141409
sick platitudes

>>1141414
not an argument

>>1141415
why would you argue against platitudes they're entirely devoid of content

>>1107754
>Socialism is failing in Venezuela!

>They should look North to Mexico, where Capitalism is doing wonders, especially after USA did those Mexicans a huge favor by opening up their markets to American corporations in the 90s!

в финлaндe в мoё шкoлe нa pyccкий язык кoмнaтe y нac ecть бoлшoй фoтoгpaф oбo cтaлин.

>>1125245
[citation needed]

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>>1125245
The wants of human beings is predetermined by the system they are brought up in.

>>1141406
Tell me how Capitalism will work before I am convinced to overthrow my Feudal master lmao

Plus I didn't even say it would work, I just asked two questions based around what the definition of Communism is and you failed to answer either one

>>1141409
Where did I say it was great?

Also

>unachievable
Why

>Contradictory
Why

>Economically impossible
Why

>Fantasy
Arguably things that don't exist yet are fantasies, yes

>>1141417
People from /pol/ are so used to arguing platitudes and strawmans against each other that when people provide them with real arguments and they only give you platitudes back they expect you to reply with more platitudes since that's how it works on their echo chamber/fedora debate arena

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>>1141430

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>>1141431
>>1141428
>>1141418
>>1141401
these tobehonest

>>1141430
>Tell me how Capitalism will work before I am convinced to overthrow my Feudal master lmao

You would have a point if every attempt at capitalism didn't kill a huge chunk of the citizens and end up coming to a grinding halt unless it adopted feudal reforms to stabilize itself only to have the third estate keep whining about it not being "real capitalism" every time.

>>1141389
that's even more autistic senpai

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>>1141406
IMO communism is only achievable once production capacity exceeds possible demand. But until then, we can achieve a sort of mutualism/market socialism or communalism whereby the dominant mode of production is co-ops and large firms are also co-owned by the different levels of government through socialized capital, while the firms themselves retain most autonomy and everyone in society receives the dividends from this capital. Furthermore, to ensure that worker control is not undermined by the state you can have it so most legislative power is transferred to local municipalities where direct democratic action can take place and representatives from each locality can make up the national/con-federal bodies that can act as a cohesive unit.

Look people, you have to understand that all that Stalin did was mostly necessary to keep the Soviet union the way it was.
During Lening Russia saw the greatest and bloodiest civil war in history. Brother was fighting fater, sister was fighting mother. Although Lenin left after the conflict had been resolved the damage to Russia's society had already been done. A strong leader was needed, someone who had no tolerance for anything as he needed to preserve peace and focus the nation towards restoration and progress.
Sure, Stalin had to lie and cheat, but without him and his zero-tolerance policy the Soviet union would have broken apart before WWII. Then everybody would've been proper fucked. He created a solid union which could have only been broken by its leader, as was demonstrated 30 or so years after his death.
Stalin was the key figure behind building the Soviet union into the superpower it used to be. Hence why if you ask any Russian on the street, you'd be surprised to find that most people (check the polls) actually think good of him rather than regard him as a tyrant.

>>1141651
that didn't mean he wasn't a dumbass, tankie.

>>1099211
I'm a filthy Trot but god damn, Stalin was an interesting guy

>>1106932
...is that gorbachev? wha

>>1141430
> unachievable
Tell me how you are going to force me to turn my company into a cooperative under the current legal system

> contradictory
Every attempt at communism killed millions of people yet you claim to represent the people

> economy impossible
Regardless of what you may have heard, democracy isn't inherently good. A democracy where the members are radical Muslims is just as bad where a dictator is a radical Muslim.

A complete republic is also a bad idea. People don't like changing their minds and therefore share the same fate as a democracy. We live in a democratically elected republic. Which is also a bad idea because it becomes a popularity contest. It also effectively has both problems of a democracy and a republic

What's the alternative? Well what are we seeking? We're seeking people who can do the best at any given job. How do we choose people? Well the free market does it rather simply. It effectively becomes to toss out as many dice as possible and order them from highest to lowest.

A cooperative doesn't share the same fate. Especially because of the errors in democracy. Is Trump the best Republican nominee? I don't think so. I like Carson better. Is Clinton the best democrat nominee? I don't think. I liked O'Malley. I mean you socialists sure know how it feels like, don't you?

>>1141651
It's like how liberals still praise Churchill as a great war leader even though he was one dodgy motherfucker.

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>>1142394
>Every attempt at communism killed millions of people
>implying capitalism hasn't killed billions

>>1099211
Stalin was a social authoritarian before he was a communist.

He sent an east Berlin girl to gulag for 10 years because she put lipstick on his statue.

If government is not bully, socialism is utopia.

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>>1142398
Yes goyim. Capitalism has killed billions. Be sure to never try to get ahead in life and continuously blame your misfortune on people who worked hard to get where they are.

>>1142464
Capitalism refuses to act on climate change. Capitalists use lobbying to create monopolies. Capitalist culture puts suicide in front of failure.

Capitalism assumes all humans are perfect.

>>1141651
like if u read this in a russian accent

>>1142468
>Capitalism refuses to act on climate change.
yeah don't worry about the fact that china is the greatest greenhouse gas emitter on the planet

>>1141651
>Then everybody would've been proper fucked. He created a solid union which could have only been broken by its leader, as was demonstrated 30 or so years after his death.
So instead of that garbage system dying early he kept it going for another couple decades and completely destroyed the economy of multiple countries in the process. Cool.

>>1142468
Sorry all I've heard was "I'm lazy and the government should take care of me"

>>1142468
>Capitalism refuses to act on climate change.
And this killed billions? Climate change has a net positive effect until 2080. Also even if it did kill billions, that's only because the communists' factories are empty

>Capitalists use lobbying to create monopolies.
That's corporatism not capitalism. Capitalism implies the non coercion free trade between two individuals. The fact there's a government that has regulations on the market implies governmental control of the market implies coercion.

But no, let's just add even more ineffective government control of the market to open more opportunities of corruption

>Capitalist culture puts suicide in front of failure.
????

>Capitalism assumes all humans are perfect.
Never does anyone imply this. In fact it implies the opposite. It implies that all humans are as selfish as possible. With everyone selfish, including consumers, everyone is trying to be as cheap as possible, effectively lower all prices and minimizing costs

There are a few instances in which capitalism fails. And all of them are illegal. (Things like false advertising)

All in all, if these are your primary concerns of capitalism, 2/10.

>>1142479
And China is capitalist. What's your point?

>>1142493
Sorry, all I heard was “I can't respond to his argument, so I will resort to a straw man.”

>>1130532
I like how after he mumbles something, they're smiles kind of fade away...

"Tone it the fuck down or I'll have your families raped." Pretty sure that's what he said.

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>>1099211
Stalin killed communism when he killed Trotzky.

>>1142484
SU economy was fairly good under Stalin. The market reforms after his death partially lead to a lot of the problems the SU saw further down the road. Of course, there needed to be some kind of changes as planning such a large economy was becoming a nightmare. They toyed with the idea of using computer planning, but the technology was far too primitive at that point in time.

>>1142497
>That's corporatism not capitalism. Capitalism implies the non coercion free trade between two individuals. The fact there's a government that has regulations on the market implies governmental control of the market implies coercion.
Corporatist capitalism and state capitalism are still both forms of capitalism. Both are defined by capital, commodity production, and wage labor. Your definition is revisionist propaganda meant to justify privatization and shitty labor practices. Read some classical economics so you can understand what defines capitalism in relation to preceding economic systems.

>>1141418
>They should look North to Mexico, where Capitalism is doing wonders
Both Mexico and Venezuela have been hit hard by oil price falling

Yet only one of those will have something to eat tonight

>>1142468
>Capitalism assumes all humans are perfect.
No that would be communism, who assume people would just get along and work for the common interest even if they have no incentive to do so and no restrictions if they dont

Capitalism try not to make any assumptions as to what the people need and just give a system to provide them with "what they want"

>>1142979
Venezuela is also suffering from the backlash of dismantling decades of capitalist infrastructure. Think of this infrastructure like a car bomb which goes of if you try to tamper with it. That is what these infrastructures are designed to do so when the people try to dismantle them shot hits the fan by default so the rest of the world can go "DUDE SOCIALISM IS BAD LMAO" and set up a right wing dictatorship in said country to suppress revolutionary movements.

>>1143069
>Backlash of dismantling decades of capitalist infrastructure
Except that's what Chavez expected and he made it its personal mission to remove all possible foreign influence on his country, and ultimately succeed, so I'd like to know where's that "backlash" exactly

The only "exterior" influence that he could not remove was the fact his entire country depend on a capitalist buisness : Oil
And unsurprisingly, when that market crashed, the entire society crashed with it

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>>1141237
>triggered

>>1141428
>>1141436
Except they're not. If you've ever eaten a piece of sugar, you'll likely have found it to be well tasting and you'd want more of it, as would 99% of humanity independant of their environment.
Sugar may seem like a trivial example in today's society, but a few hundreds of years ago people went to war and enslaved others to get sugar.
Same thing with gold, nice clothes, spices, meat, women and so forth.
The point is that our desires are to a large degree determined by nature and no amount of brainwashing is going to change that.
And since humans ALWAYS have more desires, than the production can satisfy (unless you assume a Star Trek esque post scarcity economy in which stuff literally just appears out of nowhere), there will always be conflict over the distribution of the fruits of labour.
This conflict manifests as crime, war and violence and has been part of humanity since it's birth. Hell, even animals are observed fighting over food and mates.
Communists are just another group of fetishists who think that their ideology can overcome the nature of man.

>>1141539
>>>1141406
>IMO communism is only achievable once production capacity exceeds possible demand.

That's never going to happen, since the demand grows with the living standard, which in turn grows with the production capacity.
Look at the development of western living standards.
100 years ago, very few people could afford a car, a laundry machine or a radio. Today's generation bitches if their smartphone is a year old.

Humanity is a moloch that is literally never satisfied.

>But until then, we can achieve a sort of mutualism/market socialism or communalism whereby the dominant mode of production is co-ops and large firms are also co-owned by the different levels of government through socialized capital,

We've been through this a hundred times already. If you transfer ownership to a centralized authority, get a bureaucratic nightmare.

>while the firms themselves retain most autonomy and everyone in society receives the dividends from youthis capital.

So essentially you think that the firms will give a shit if they fail or succeed, knowing that the government is just going to take all their profits anyway?

>Furthermore, to ensure that worker control is not undermined by the state you can have it so most legislative power is transferred to local municipalities where direct democratic action can take place

90% of all people neither understand nor care about politics. They'll vote for whoever is best with words.

Also how would you prevent local muncipalities from ditching socialism? It seems that you want two conflicting things, namely decentralized rulership with a centrally enforced ideology.

>and representatives from each locality can make up the national/con-federal bodies that can act as a cohesive unit.

And here we go with the state capitalism again...

>ITT: people who don't know shit about communism

Try to master dialectical materialism before posting edgy 4chan memers :^)

Oh and fuck tankies too

>>1109647
>saved europe

Wow leftists really are delusional.

Those 20 million dead sure saved Europe.

>Just think of the terrible situation Europe would be in without all of those starved Ukrainians!

Meanwhile the left is destroying Europe through forced immigration but it's TOTALLY not your fault, right commies?

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>>1099211
No, commie faggot

>>1148110
Tumblr is thataway, bolshevik scum.

>>1141428
Yeah if it wasn't for capitalism we wouldn't need to eat food. The only reason we want water is because the man wants to keep us down. Clearly the only way to fix this is by giving the man complete and total control over every single aspect of our lives.

Do leftists ever think before they speak?

>>1130568
You do realize that if Hitler was still around Europe wouldn't currently be getting destroyed at the hands of leftism right?

>>1109647
That priest is beyond retarded. He must not know about how stalin hated religion and hounded the Christians into the wilderness.

>>1141436
leftists are so used to upboating on reddit that they can't help themselves

>reading Gulag Archipelago
>millions tortured, imprisoned or shot for decades
>edgy kids who've never lived in an authoritarian state worship a club footed murdering faggot and his faggot predecessor

>>1149833
you do realize the reason hitler isn't around is because he put a bullet through his own head right

>>1158656
>Gulag Archipelago

That was a surprisingly good book. Slaosjdoasjndainzen or however you spell his name is a good author.

>>1158656
>Reads fiction from a nazi
>Thinks it's the truth
>Kek

>>1159419
>Reads fiction from a jew
>Thinks it's the truth

>>1142928
>SU economy was fairly good under Stalin
Except it wasn't but good effort

>>1159419
>any literature that doesn't say Stalin dindu nuffin is fiction
ok then

>>1159771
This actually made me laugh

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ITT:
>commies
>socialists
>fascists
You're all diseased.

Take your non-knowledge of politics, history, economics and culture elsewhere.

A democratic republic with limited government, capitalist economy that follows free market principles, and gives the freedom to the people is the only way to go.

>>1141401
Right, communism in theory is a stateless society with a giant governing body that distributes wealth, through socialized means of production, thus making it contradictory.
This does not create as much wealth as a capitalistic society would because you basically make it impossible for capital to amass in the hands of really intelligent people. You force everyone to be equally useless.

It's also immoral because it has to break the NAP for communism to be realized in a given area.

>>1159421

an intellectual Jew who perfectly described the capitalist system and even the definition is proper to it, you read an idyllic fascist without any valid argument beyond propaganda goebblels

>Please before writing all this shit ina board go to read a book and it is not just Mein Kampf

>>1107704

Communism does not work for a guy told me on 4chan


there are people from the working class that defends their rights and actually works , profit without work is typical of the nobility

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>>1099211
Sup

>>1163768
cherrypicking: the post

>boots
>uniform material
>tanks for the balkans????
>telephone poles
>3.8 millions tons of foodstuffs for 160 million people for five years
>fucking boots again, why not

currently one city in china makes two thirds of the world's zippers and buttons, we'd all be fucked without it, right?

>>1133569
Its from Darth Marenghi's darkplace, way better than IT crowd

>>1159761
>Russian Federation bastardisation of SU anthem
fuck off

>>1170682
fucking hell it keeps happening >>1159774

>>1159914
>giant governing body that distributes wealth

Where in the Communist Manifesto (which I assume you've read if you intend to make rebuttals to communism) does it say that communism means a big government?

>>1149813
Thank you for your intelligent response. I assume you have read the works of Marx to produce such a well informed rebuttle?

>>1141237
>I don't have anything intelligent to say so I will call them cucks, that'll teach them
classic rightist

>>1135429
This site is 18+

>>1141539
*sniff*

>>1170682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYw_zamFGf0

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did you faggots get kicked out of /pol/ again?

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>>1142768
>le “Trotsky was better than Stalin” meme
>Trotsky = Communism
>not even his theories but the man himself = Communism

>>1110080
This

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>>1099211
There is literally not an angle or clip in the world where he doesnt look like anything other than a completely sinister maniac.
Because thats what he was. There was literally no good side to the bolsheviks what so ever unless you believe their exploitation bullshit. Atleast you can give an actual argument to the good side of the National Socialists even if you do believe the 6 gorillion crap.
The bolsheviks were lead mostly by jews with a chip on their shoulder to completely fuck Russian Christians.

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>>1148110
There is a difference between "knowing" communism in the sense that you heavily study the works of marx and the teachings of marxists such as lenin and Trotsky and knowing that bolshevism was just a scam cooked up by jews who had a chip on their shoulder against Russian Christians and wanted to force them under their thumb and whatever seemingly good ideas they had were really just exploitation and insincere bullshit

>>1170694
It doesn't say that, but it is praxeologically impossible to socialize the means of production without a governing body. Unless you turn it into a voluntary society in which you can no longer call it marxist/communist.

It honestly baffles me that there are still real life fucking communists lmao

can't wait to gulag alt-righties

>>1186706
wherever there are autistic furries and bronies there are commies.
Its always those type every time.

work → get food
don't work → don't get food
seems like a good system to me

>>1159879
Welcome to 4chan

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Stalin making a speech at the Moscow subway just before the battle of Moscow, he is quoting hitler;
"Hitler said: We can only govern by force.
All means are justified.
When politics required it, you have to lie, betray, kill.
I release the Man of a chimera, the conscience."

just a quick reminder that everyone in this thread would have been the first to get sent to the gulag under stalin

>>1159914
>make it impossible for capital to amass in the hands of really intelligent people.

Ah yes, all those intelligent people who know how to game the system to end up having as much capital as a significant percentage of the entire (7 BILLION wide) world population, how could anything ever function if we didn't have these brilliant job creators giving us the sacred opportunity to work?

>>1142768

Killing Trotsky was Stalin's greatest achievement.

>>1186706
Well, they've never been forced to work in gulag after getting arrested because the local GPU had an arrest quota to fulfill. They've never boiled the soles of old shoes to eat because they don't get any food on the collective farm.

>>1141137
I can't stop laughing
Help

>>1192835
Not an argument.
Also, wealth is created not stolen, capitalism ≠ corporatism.

>>1109647

It's hilarious isn't it lol.

The especially hilarious thing is that they don't realize the entire point of this thread is lampooning their hitler bullshit.

>>1159879

>actually thinking limited government capitalism is sustainable

>>1134092
>Nazis tortured 50 million civilians!
>What, the 40 million Christians we purged in out anti-religion campaigns? Do you have proofs?
>12 million Ukrainians did not die in the Holodomor, I demand proofs!

The majority of casualties were Russians dying by the droves because they thought that zerg rushing was a better tactic than strategy. Then it was the mass killings of GERMAN citizens that the USSR did while tearing Europe in half and starving their end.

Nazis kept it in their pants most of the time. They didn't want disgusting race mixed babies.

>>1141430
>Unachievable
Because fuck you, I'm getting my friends together and we have guns. What are you going to do about it, get your friends together with guns? Good job, you created factions that have power over others, also known as a "Class"

>Contradictory
"We're for the workers! Fucking capitalist pigs subjecting workers to shit!" as they starve the workers and put them in smaller homes without medicine or warmth. Meanwhile, in Capitalist countries, the quality of life for workers is highest it's ever been in the history of man. We went from toiling to death at 30 to living to 70 in relative comfort. At least the NSDAP improved worker's lives, unlike commies.

>Economically impossible
Resources are limited. Either you make everyone suffer and live like third world shitholes, just to revert to mindless animals without any sense of desire which would eliminate our humanity, or you cull the world and bring the world's population below 500 million for the rest of the human existence. But then you don't have communism, but a hyper violent eugenics based society.

>Fantasy
Yes, it will never exist for the sheer fact that supply exists and always will unless God himself decides to start delivering pizzas.

Fucking communist apologists, excusing 120 million dead while screaming and crying over 6 million as the worst thing since Hitler.

>>1141418
>Mexico
Capitalism didn't turn them to shit though, cartels and government corruption and intervention did.

Communism/Socialism on the other hand caused the food and toilet paper shortages in Venezuela.

It's like saying "Sure, soda causes diabetes, but the man that drank water had a stroke!", it's simply not the cause of the problems and directs away from the cause of the problems.

>>1163423
>Never worked a job
>Lived on his freind's couch who's dad owned a factory
>Sat in coffee shops, using his money he mooched off a hard working man while writing his fantasy society detailing how we need to get rid of class and government by using extreme force and violence, because sleeping on a couch is hard work and he's just like us factory workers and farmers

It's like nothing has changed

>>1203228
Except that he was working on his system. Whether you like it or not all you're showing here is that you're upset that you have to work for money, probably unhappy with your life.

Also, sleeping on a couch does suck.

P.S. I'm not a commie, I think you're all retarded.

>>1203346
I work for a living and I'm very satisfied with my life because I got to choose my own hours and days and get lots of great benefits. I also come home to loved ones and own my own house without any debt.

No need to project on us.

>>1099230
fascist he was a socialist you economically illiterate fuckwit

This thread: "Waaah Waaaah Don't post Stalin in our safe space! I'm triggered!"

>>1196033
>purposefully ignoring inheritance and nepotism

>>1099230
>Hitler
>Fascist

He probably was more socialist than stalin

>>1203388
>>1210695
>Hitler
>socialist
Economically Nazi Germany was similar to Fascist Italy. Calling Hitler a fascist would not be inaccurate because of the huge similarities between National "Socialism" (they admitted to calling themselves "socialists" just to steal votes from socialist parties) and traditional fascism.
Nazi Germany was not socialist. It had a mixed economy with government control of corporations. Although it did have socialist elements, overall it was more similar to state capitalism. Corporations get a mutually-beneficial deal with the government, and the country strives to achieve autarky. But seeing as how fascists are retards incapable of balancing a budget, they never achieved autarky, and instead had to resort to plundering other nations just to prevent their economy from collapsing. Same thing with Italy.

>>1210510
Try making an argument next time.

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wow this thread is still up

>>1192440
He's really low energy in his speeches compared to Hitler.

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>>1196739
I loved that show

>>1099211
why lord of the rings music?

>>1159771
what is this its funny

>>1099242
>majority

sure thing lad.

>>1185644
post the part where all the Nazis died in the cold

>>1099217
>admiring the man who ruined the white race

>>1203210
but from the 1930's to 2000 the PRI, a socialist-ish party, ruled the country.

and they never had food and toilet paper shortages. in fact they stayed in power so long because of the stability they provided.

>>1130307
>taking advice from someone who kills cute cats

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>>1099211
DUDE COMMUNISM LMAO!!! TRUE COMMUNISM NEVER TRIED!!!!!! ALL THOSE COMMUNISTS COUNTRY'S WERE FAKEEEEEE

>communism sucks pro tip

>>1107815
Kekoslovakia

>>1213805
>Bernie Sanders is a socialist
When will this meme end?

>>1196739
I don't even like Stalin but that was misinformed as fuck tbqh

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>>1229082

>>1099217
>>1099227
>>1099237

A lose is still a lose.
They lost 2 world wars in a row, deal with it, germanistan.

>>1229025
When he stops saying he's a socialist
What are you even saying?

>>1099211
how can any sane person be a communist?

>>1241837
they cant unless they want to dominate other people like stalin

>>1149788
>a rightist can't read
surprise surprise

>>1185921
Akshually, as far as I remember of Marx (Which isn't a lot granted, I only got a bachelor in Politics), the whole idea is that it WOULD be voluntary.

I think the idea was that people at their core are "good" and interested in creating the "good" society - Hence why they would voluntarily work.

How is that old quote goes again? Something like "Work according to ability, consume according to need" (translations are hard dude). So basically, another utopian meritocracy.

That being said, if I remember correctly, Marx never properly describes what the shit communism even is. He spends waaaaay more time detailing the "capitalist structure".

Though honestly, take this post with a grain of salt. It's been a long time since I've studied Marx(and when I did swing by him, it was not very in depth).

Incidentally, if you or any other faggots ever wanna read Das Kapital, find a more modernised version that summarizes it. As interesting it is to read, good lord does Marx just fucking prattle on forever.

>>1099211
>Calls itself the Soviet Union
>crushes the factory and rural soviets and communes established before the Bolshevik coup
>"Get in here fellow commies!"

>>1241843
sounds like capitalism

>>1241837
By being a Kropotkinist.

>>1250540
How is respect for private property and voluntaryism in any way a desire to dominate people?
Freedom ≠ domination.

>>1250571
>private property
>voluntary

>>1250575
So, instead of actually answering my question, you make some weird implication of something I never claimed.

>>1130246
Stalin died in 1953.

>>1099211
Look here comrade, why are you doing this to yourself.
The whole world is going far right now
You made a communist, socialist or leftist tread on a nazi and fascist filled site
Are you fucking insane or just suicidal?

Never argue with fascists or people from the far right. Its just not worth your time since you cant change anything. Just let the world end on a fascist note and be cool about it, since that is where we are headed as a fucking human race.

And again, dont waste precious brain sells on other people, its just not worth it.

Also, true communism will never prevail sadly... the reason being ---just look at the replies on this tread--- people cant agree with each other.

So im just sitting here and waiting for the entire human race to kill itself over some dumb "history", "culture", "religion" or imaginary map they call country/territory.

>>1099211
the only reason why i can think why anyone would praise this man is for bringing glory back to russia.

>>1099237
sad but true

>>1107704
I remember last year we were inches away from the world completely falling apart and all Trump had to say was "Ban all Muslims"

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Communism failed because there's no incentive to do anything. Also communist are just stupid.

The only thing good that ever came out of Russia was the AK47 and Space Travel, both of which are stolen ideas from Germans.

You never hear anything good coming out of Russia.
All they have are:
-a few cute girls
-drunk guys dancing in front of government built housing
-cities that monitor you 24/7
-pedophilia
-car crashes

>>1099254
ansch show on ansch show on

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>Come in here to check out some cool Soviet webms
>Turns out the thread is fucking filled with bootyblasted /pol/tards and Liberals crying about Papa Stalin
Beautiful.

>>1167164
>Maoists

>>1134201
based nignogs

>>1130307
I think you missed the point of that movie.

>>1158640
Literally same mentality as 1890s Brit.

>>1159879
free markets inevitably take the freedom of the people.

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>>1134201
>MUH 6 TRILLION

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>>1263529
>free markets inevitably take the freedom of the people.
Which is why Hong Kong is a 1984 dystopia compared to the free and kind rule of Mainland China.

Try thinking before posting next time, sport.

>>1099227
>The Jews!
Thank you, Captain Obvious

>>1257105
>I remember last year when we were inches away from the world falling apart and Hillary had to say was "I'm a woman"

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I've been waiting for this my whole life. Dumping

>>1210920
Hitler and the United States attempted to mimic the way Mussolini ran things economically. While America was in the great depression and Germany was just getting out of its, Italy was flourishing financially and economically thanks to Mussolini and the fascist movement. Thats why Hitler looked up to Muss so much, and based a lot of things off of Mussolini's philosophy and writing. Except the whole Jew and mustache thing.

>>1163775
Ford made 1 million USD by selling assembly line goods to the USSR to help them get up and running to produce tanks and other war vehicles. And that was during the great depression... can you imagine how much fucking money that was, not just for its time, but due to the economic situation?

>>1109647
You're half right. The hitler part that is. The rest shows how stupid you are.
A) Stalin wasn't Russian. He actually invaded his own country Georgia, and fucked shit up royally.
B) Bolsheviks had been killed and overthrown by Lenin and Trotsky primarily, Stalin at the time wasn't even THAT prominent of a figure.
C) Stalin would have lost to Germany royally, had Hitler not been so fucking stupid and made the exact same mistakes Napoleon had. He invaded Russia right before the winter while fighting a war on multiple fronts. Stalin was an idiot strategist and tactician. If it weren't for the few generals he didn't fucking kill in the purges, the USSR would have fallen in less than a year probably. The only reason the USSR withstood operation Barbarossa was due to Dmitry Grigorevich Pavlov, who basically told Stalin to shut the fuck up.

When Stalin took over the USSR was a country of farmers, when he was gone they had fucking spaceships and nukes. Stalin = GOAT

>>1099237
>Thousand years reich.
>Don't lasts even ten.
Get lost you fucking loser

>>1159748
noodle for president

>>1099242
>Stalin
>Starved his own people
>Murdered his own people
>not a traitor
Kill yourself, Ruskie

>>1167164
I love that song
>that bass though

>>1229025
He literally calls himself a democratic socialist

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>>1134201

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>>1158640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk7AsSKSmoo

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>>1099211
>st*lin
>Communist
just no

>>1110080
Thank you. People here are so fucking stupid. Socialism has nothing to do with the degree of state control. It has to do with how much democracy is in the workplace. If you believe in democracy, you should believe in democracy in the workplace as well, i.e. socialism.

>>1099217
was 1 drecks m3m3

>>1110080

>Noam "KHMER ROUGE DINDU NUFFIN" chomsky

>>1290123

you realize these are poles, right?

>>1099217
>>1099227
>>1099237
>>1107704
>>1134201
>>1134203
>>1185644
>>1185670
>>1185917
>>1185919
>>1185923
Aaaannnnd.... you retards are no better than the communists you claim to hate. Thing is your stupidity is your most prevalent master amongst other "masters" which hold you and make you people objective idiots, pawns, cannon fodder to be used at the given time. Now better go change your diapers since you've soiled yourselves out of hatred of seeing a communist thread and coming here, got that little untermensch? Funny how that word was used against so many innocent Slavs, yet the real subhumans are subhumans due to their actions alone, not blood. YOU!


>>1121714
Hitler's no better. Given the chance his death count would of been higher than that of the bolshveviks with their cheka all the way till Stalin and his purgers and holodomor.

>>1130307
To bad you're actually stupid, since actual stupid people don't seem to see their own stupidity, unless of course they're show how they're brainwashed, if they'd change it'd be good. But the real "stoopids" still wouldn't change.

>>1163768
>>The British and Americans deployed over 20,000 heavy bombers against the Germans, causing great destruction. The Russians never deployed one
>what is the fucking Petlyakov Pe-8 ie soviet bombardment of fucking berlin in august in 1941

>>Russian soldiers were undisciplined and useless
>he doesn't know that soviet officers and generals tended to be shitty and sometimes literally outright retarded as it was one of the reasons many russian soldiers surrendered to the fucking nazis only to get starved en mass in "pow" camps

>>1300641
shown*

>>1203183
Hey pindos, thank you so much and your german pindos army for killing over a third of the Belarusian population in ww2 dumb fuck. I mean how retarded can you be? And yet you retards wonder why Ukrainians and Belarusians raped and killed Germans whose sons raped and killed tons of innocent eastern europeans? And by further denying nazi war crimes people such as you only prove that you're even bigger idiots, which is a objective undeniable fact.

And lastly Slavs have more Aryan blood than Germans. If Nazis and Germans really loved Aryans they wouldn't abort babies who'd be half russian. But sorry, you're to stupid to understand things like history and genetics on your own. You're a "cattle" type of person ie a slave. You need others to think for you and make you think and feel the way you do because you're intellectually weak. Got that pindosovich from pindostan?

>>1214388
BvS song with man of steel speach

>>1099242
Good, come back so we will fuck your brains out again

>>1109647
LMAO, THIS IS WHAT COMMIES BELIEVE

>>1130568
>directly responsible for the current sjw era

Explain this, please. SJW and other bull shit like that comes from the Jew.

>>1158640
>cringy music
>some Russian soldier using non soviet equipment
>all that cherry picking

Holy Fuck

>>1159744
Why thanks capitalism, she's probably on foodstamps.

>>1110080
>>1110080
>>1110080

>>1229121
I had no idea deep strike tanks were even a thing yet, let alone during the Cold War.

>>1277279
How did Mosely not gain traction among the people, like Hitler did?

>>1149842

He is Russian Orthodox so this is not surprising at all. Stalin was not stupid. He used religious ideas and methods to control the masses. As Hitchens put it: If he hadn't used the church, you shouldn't be in the dictator business.

>>1149842

That's false though, Stalin didn't hate religions, he was himself a christian, and respected the religious education he had. He used religion to manipulate some russian communities though

I like to go the Bill and Ted interpretation of historical figures

"Stalin is a dead asshole"
.
I think that sums it up

>>1159879
this

>>1099211
This fucking bastand dont deserve a thread about him !

>>1099211
get saged you little communist fagit bitch

take you communist bullshit somewhere else
why don't you and the rest of the sjw's go off to your own little island and fucking rot there

pls

>>1203210
>Capitalism didn't turn them to shit though, cartels and government corruption and intervention did.
>Capitalism didn't turn them to shit though
>cartels and government corruption and intervention did
>people argue that communism is a great idea but is a flawed idea because of the human element getting better of people and them acting in their own self interest
>capitalism is completely fine though even when the human element causes people to act in their own self interest and screw others over

I just don't understand you people. The very same logic you use to discredit the one side, you completely ignore when it's applied to the one you favor.

>>1320569 Just because you don't understand doesn't mean it's wrong. It just means you're stupid...

Communism requires authoritarianism to be implemented. Which means in the ultimate sense it presents the most opportune moment for the negativity of human nature to flourish. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Free market capitalism based in a Constitutional Republic is the best we can do specifically because it plans on humans being inherently evil.

Communism fails because it bases its form on the Bible, and believes nothing else of it.

Vanity of vanities, all is vanity. Truth is, the best position you can be in to help others, is the best you can be in for yourself. Selfishness in its true sense is the tool that permits true selflessness.

How well does the poor man help the poor? This is the downfall of democracy, socialism and communism. All three of these lead to fascism, as we see taking hold across the world today.

>>1099211
I laughed out loud for the music 10/10 top kek

>>1241837
you don't actually know what communism is, right?
the question is how can any sane person be not a communist

>>1326405
because it will never, ever work

>>1326405
Sanity requires one not to make assumptions. Karl Marx asks you to make two faulty assumptions on the first page of his book.

Communist = insanity.

That lovely feeling when there are more communists in the world than fascists.

>>1142928
>SU economy was fairly good under Stalin.
Basically invalidates all of your other points.

>>1106932
so that is what that Stalin joke game on steam is referencing.

>>1163466
Ruling is no simple feat, I wouldn't be surprised if successful noblemen do way more complex tasks than your average shit shoveler.

Fuck communism, I would sooner favor the return of monarchy or become a goose stepper.

>>1107704
Was the audio of the gunfire and screaming recorded from some movie?

Stalin isn't communism