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Is the Wii really a great emulation machine?

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I am thinking of buying a Wii since they can be purchased for $60.

Are they really great at emulation?

How difficult it is to mod your Wii and get emulators for it?

How do N64 and Turbo CD games run on it?
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Some N64 is okay via emulation, moreso via injected .wad files. I played Rondo of Blood perfectly via virtual console but haven't messed with any Turbo CD roms through Hugo but I imagine they'll play fine.
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They're a pretty good, super easy and cheap emulation option that can output 240p natively. Damn good value, really.
Hacking them is ridiculously simple these days, just use letterbomb and you'll be set.
N64 in general isn't great. Virtual Console .WADs are your best bet for most of them but Not64 can handle a couple popular titles. Not well versed with TurboCD but I believe a few of those games got official VC releases as well. I'd imagine emulation of those is much better than N64 by a wide margin.
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>>4184420
I used mednafen to play rondo the last time I beat it and it ran fine.
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>>4184467
Did you try any other Turbo CD games on the Wii?
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>>4184590
Ys Book 1 & 2 played okay, FMVs and all but I didn't go all the way through.
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It's easy to setup and can handle most 2D playforms pretty well. You'll need a controller with more buttons than the wiimote though, unless you stick to 2-3 button games.
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>>4184293
Wii is great. I use a nes controller from the nes mini which works with nes/master system emulators and I use the classic controller for genesis/snes games. It's the easiest way to get lag free 240p emulation onto a crt. If you don't have a crt, you might as well use pc emulation. I think they're totally worth the price and they're so easy to mod.
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>GBA
Doesn't run games at fullspeed. Annoying if you need to have consistent framerate, to input combos(i.e Mother 3)
>SNES
Fine
>NES
Fine
>Megadrive
Fine
>GBC/GB
Fine

Then again, Running 240p or 480i locks amazing on a CRT, so its okay.
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How is sega CD emulation on the wii? I'd like to play Snatcher.
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I tried Sin and Punishment, it ran fine, didn't notice any inconsistency (unlike on Pj64), but I found the gamecube controller's analog to be not as accurate as the N64's when it comes to aiming.
PC Engine games work fantastic, Rondo is flawless, I also played Air Zonk, Splatterhouse, New Adventure Island and a few others, all perfect.
Neo Geo games I tried (Last Resort, Fatal Fury Special, KOF 95) all worked great too.

Wii softmodding is pretty easy.
Be sure to play it on CRT.
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>>4184293
>$60
Jesus

They're like 1/4 that price here in the UK
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>>4185268
Are you talking about emulation or VC?

Cause I find it unlikely Neo Geo games emulates great
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>>4185274
VC, the games I mentioned were officially released on Wii.
The only emulation I did on Wii was Famicom (fceux or whatever), I think it was fine, didn't notice any issues.
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I have a RGB Trinitron that accepts 480i.
I want to play NES, SNES and Genesis.

Will I be able to do so fine with a Wii at 240p?
Can I use the Classic Pro controller?

Thanks my emulated friends.
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>>4184293

Man, I see these things all the time for under $20 Canadian dollarydoos at thrift stores. If you're looking to emulate classic systems on a CRT in 240p there isn't a more cost effective, easy to setup option. Plus, there are some great Wii and GameCube games.

>>4185140

mGBA can run GBA games full speed, has a 240p output mode as well.

>>4185264

Genesis Plus GX is a fantastic emulator that supports Game Gear, Master System, Genesis, and Sega CD. Has 240p output if you set video mode to 'Original', and the Wiimote can act as a light gun for Snatcher. ISO files need to be in .BIN/.CUE format.
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>>4185329

Yes to all of those.

You have a huge variety of controllers you can use, including original NES, SNES, N64, etc. controllers via Raphnet's adapters.
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memeberry pi is better, wii can barely do ps1. The wii is good if you only intend on playing snes nes, genesis and turbo grafx 16 though
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On top of VC/emulation, there's a lot of retro compilations on Wii.
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>>4185360
Thanks fampai
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>>4185371
or you can just emulate the entire neogeo library
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>>4184293
Use it for nintendont
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>>4185363

Meme Pi isn't worth a goddamn. Emulation is always better on a pc. A Wii is loved here for its 240p video out abilities when connecting to a crt, not specifically for its emulating abilities.
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The thing I like about the Wii is that no one wants them anymore so you can usually get them for cheap.

They can run NES, SNES, MegaDrive, GB/GBC, and even GBA games pretty well. N64 is kinda iffy but it works somewhat, and of course the system is basically a re-purposed gamecube so you can even run those perfectly. For gamecube compatibility you can use nintendont to load games from USB flash drives, hard disks, or from the SD card.

Try to get one with gamecube controller ports and memory card slots.
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Anyone notice the Wii's composite output is ridiculously sharp? I didn't really notice it until I tried to go back to the gamecube and everything was blurry and the text was hard to read. I wonder if the wii composite cables are shielded better or maybe there's a better encoder chip.
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>>4185491
Yea i did notice that
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>>4185431
you can output 240p from memepi. I have one and I had a wii before I gave it to my brother and the pi is way better. it can at least handle ps1
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>>4185491

The Wii component out is shit though
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>>4185546

Yeah, with a separate adapter. That brings the cost way above a Wii and also the effort in setting up. With a Wii you just letterbomb and go. Buying separate components and juggling drivers is way more expensive and involved to reach the same end.
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>>4185553
>Not amplifying either externally or in-display
Guess how I know you shelled out for a Gamecube digital cable.
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>>4185557
what no it's literally just changing 1 line of code.
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>>4185560
Shhhhh, I just sold my GameCube component cables for over $200, don't deflate the market
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>>4185580

Maybe for composite output but again that is way shittier than just using a Wii.
>>4185560
Hopefully no one is dumb enough to shell out for GameCube component cables, cabbage cramps
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>>4185601
the wii can't even do ps1 without stutter
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>>4184293
It not the best In the world but I would describe it as super convenient I keep it under my TV in the living room the moment I get some free time I power it up and have a quick play.
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>>4185606

No one uses it for ps1
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>>4185637
The fact that it can even run PS1 games is kinda cool though.
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>>4185606

And the Pi can't do GameCube.
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>>4185606

'M-muh PS1' is hardly a damning criticism of the Wii's capabilities, the majority of people should have SOMETHING else that can play PS1 games. As it stands it still emulates a hell of a lot and does it well.
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>>4185402
Actually you can't because of RAM limitations, but there are some games with Virtual Console releases that get past that limitation. Too bad that the Metal Slug Anthology is 480i only.
>>4185692
Are there any decent 240p solutions for PSX?
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>>4185637
Or at least shouldn't without accepting some annoyances. My roommates and I managed to beat Road Rash: Jail Break emulating through the Wii. It actually played really well when it wasn't crashing to code dump or losing all the save data.
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>>4185648
not missing out on anything there
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>>4184293
The fact that getting the Wii to do emulation is so easy (I've managed to do it) speaks volumes to its moddability.
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>>4186002
just wait a god damn minute
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>>4185346
>mGBA
If its the same one as Retroarch bundles, i doubt it. It caps at 50/60 frames in hardware intense sections. Standalone should only be 5-6 frames faster, unless the Libretro port is completely fucked.
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Is there anyway to not need a wii remote everytime i start the wii?
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>>4186002
rude
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>>4185363
Fuck off idiot.
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>>4186218
bootmii or priiloader setting. If you wii is moded you probably have bootmii
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My bros, anyone have a way to play 32x games on the Wii yet?
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>>4186298
Thats quite a lot of blast processing my friend
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The Wiimote is unironically one of the best ways to play NES games. The d-pad and buttons are small but feel amazing.
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>>4186395
>tfw I have a NES Classic Edition controller which is Wii compatible.

Feels retro man.
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>>4184293
Raspberry Pi 3 is much better if you only want to emulate up to GameBoy Advance
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>>4186215

Yeah the libretto version is a little weird, it was 10/10 at first but with every update it got worse. So do all the nightlies though, I don't think the Retroarch devs have paid any attention to the Wii or tested anything in ages. The standalone mGBA .dol from endrift's website is the way to go for the best performance.
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>>4186298

Nope. Even on Pi they run like shit. Nobody's really cracked 32x emulation since Kega Fusion and that was never made open source.
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>>4186851
Why the fuck would you spend over a hundred dollars getting a Pi3 setup for 240p just for everything up to the GBA?
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>>4184590
Mednafen Wii is pretty much spot-on for PCE/PCE CD games. I haven't had any issues with anything I've tried.
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>>4186851
Wii runs GBA pretty perfectly now, still better than spending $15-20k on a memepi rig (fans, cases, smugness, heatsinks, stickers, power adapters, mini HDMI cables, USB adapters, USB controllers, Bluetooth controllers, 240p add-on board, etc)
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>>4186002
>I was being a dumb troll the whole time.
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It's good for SNES, Genesis, NES, PCE... it really is good, shame about it not having PS1 emulation (or at least decent PS1 emulation, I'm aware there's some emulator out there). You can also use any controllers compatible with both the gamecube and the Wii, and that includes adaptors. As well as external memory and native 240p. Really, it's your best option these days for any 16 bit platforms and older.
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I asked in another thread but can someone help me get .pbp files to boot on my memepi? They launch, sit at a black screen and then exit.

I downloaded via .pkg and extracted via PSN Decryptor by LMAN.
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>>4187982

Wiisx really COULD have had good PS1 emulation too, there's a few quite intensive 3D games the emulator can, bafflingly, run perfectly. It just needed the sort of fine tuning other emulators like mGBA got but the author fucked himself by taking on too much at once (was the same guy making the N64 emu) and progress just came to a dead stop in its prime. The Wii hardware is so unique and outdated now there's no easy way to port a different emulator, but the hardware itself was clearly capable.
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>>4188581
It's CPU uses PowerPC instead of x86 right? Not exactly super unqiue.
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>>4184293
Ever since my Wii decided to stop reading disks, I've been using it as my emulation machine. And it's pretty great, as long as you don't try to emulate anything from the fifth generation onward. Basically, 3D emulation is sub-par, even on some SNES games that use Mode7.

My only gripe is that I can't make use of it without EVER needing to touch the Wiimote, I would like to only ever use the GameCube controller. Is there a homebrew for that?

Also, somehow ever since I connected my Wii to my CRT TV I can't see the homebrew startup screen, it simply doesn't sends signal. So I have to turn it on and then connect the SD card.
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>>4188603
I believe you can set it to launch straight to the homebrew channel on startup and you can use the gamecube controller there
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>>4188630
Yes, apparently the tool is called Preloader. I'll finally look into it.
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>>4184293
>$60
Jesus. I find Wiis with a whole bag of controllers cables and games for $10 at the flea markets here.
They're OK for emulation but any old PC runs more better. I use a Wii because I can slap a $10 screen on a $10 Wii and plug in a $10 battery and have a decent multi player portable that's so cheap I don't care if it gets broken, lost or stolen.
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>>4185553
Only for some earlier models, be sure to get a Non white Wii with GameCube ports, You will get a RVL 40 or 60 mother board that have superior component video quality. You can check it by removing the battery as seen I the picture
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>>4184293
I would recommend an original xbox for emulation over a Wii anyday, it's the perfect machine for it.
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>>4189162
Except xbox can't output 240p like wii can.
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>>4189198
Is there some meme I am not getting?
Pretty sure soul caliber 2 even ran at native 720P

Can it really not run at 240P somehow?
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>>4189198
240p is overrated.
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>>4189215
If it could people would be doing it already and recommending xbox instead of wii.
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>>4189217
There's no point in emulating on a CRT without 240p because 480i looks like shit with all the scaling artifacts.
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>>4188658
I use BootMii on Boot2.
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>>4185274

Is there a way to make GxGeo run @ 240p or at least turn off the horrible filtering?
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>>4185560
What do you mean by this? I genuienly dont know
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Is the Wii U any good at emulation?
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>>4190496
nope. Well official GBA VC is good, but NES,SNES, N64 are all a step down from wii vc. And well you can go into Virtual Wii mode and use emulators from Wii, but it cant output at 240p
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>>4190505
Thank you, I will buy a Wii then.
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>>4189149

So I guess I have the diagonal lines and other distortion when I play on an HDTV is because the scaler is amplifying to noise that is output by the shitty older board revisions?
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>>4190515
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=51789&sid=72172884227f7831f0166e0c7543a7a7&start=30

This link have some usefull information you can read about

The main objective is getting a Wii with the sharpest component output that could rival the Game Cube one, no one deserves to pay 300 gold for those rare component gamecube games
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Did anyone ever figure out how to hack the wii mini to make it useful?
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>>4185954
>Too bad that the Metal Slug Anthology is 480i only.
i remember reading somewhere that the metal slug anthology can be hex edited to run in 240p on the ps2, should be the same case for the wii version.
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>>4189149
So the black Wii is the way to go? Cool, I never liked the white one anyway.
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Turbo CD works great, N64 works like shit.
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>>4184293
Pretty shit really.
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>>4190963
Sadly no, I looked into it recently. Apparently it's next to impossible, and simply not worth it since regular Wiis are like $10. Shame, because I've always wanted a Wii mini, but I can't justify it for that reason.
>>4191351
Most of this thread would seem to disagree
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>>4184293
>60
I for an extra system for a mere 30bux
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>>4185360
>via Raphnet's adapters
I still cannot believe the folks at nintendo, sega & nec did not license wiimote compatible clones of their classic controllers.
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>>4191541

Apparently at one point they'd planned on it.
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Does anyone know if the average mayflash PS1/2 to gamecube adapter has enough input lag to be a bother?
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>>4185557
Wii is the poorfag's choice.
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>>4192491
Poorfags gotta start somewhere mi amigo.
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>>4184293
Emulating FF1 right now on mine. The main problem the Wii has is installing .wad files kind of sucks because the Wii only has 512MB of storage on it, and the games basically have to be on the system memory to work. The games run perfectly fine though. I'd recommend getting ahold of Bootmii to help prevent bricking once you get Homebrew up and running
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>>4192491
It's also the convenient choice. I have tons of actual hardware, but the Wii works great since I don't have enough space in my current apartment for all my real shit. Small CRT + Wii + a Famicom and I'm golden
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>>4192543

Launcher GX supports launching WADs from an emulated NAND; dual benefits of this is you aren't ever writing to your system NAND so no worries about briking, and emuNAND has no limit on the number of titles installed.
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If you've got your Wii Twilight-modded, and you intend to run newer Wii games, what do you need to do to ensure the system menu updates don't brick your console?
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>>4192634
Update it and re-hack with LetterBomb. No reason to be on old FW anymore.
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>>4192634
https://please.hackmii.com

btw
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>>4184293
I fucking love the Wii.
Hacking it is quick and easy, and you can emulate damn near anything worth emulating.
It's ridiculously /comfy/, too.
The Wii was *just* before the internet integrated itself into every facet of consoles and ruined the homey feel.
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>>4191134

The code is PS2-only as far as I know, never seen one for the Wii. If you're going that route you may as well hunt down the virtual console .wads though, they work just as well and are 240p by default.

>>4192634

There will never be another system update and it's completely hackable on the latest, you've got nothing to worry about.
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>>4189149
This has me interested. If I were to get lucky enough to grab a RVL-CPU-60, is there an easy way to copy everything from the Wii I currently have to that one?
I heard in the past that the RVL-CPU-60 has quicker load times, too, but I can't find the video about it anymore.
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Reminder that USB Loader can let you navigate your games on the home menu without the Wiimote
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>>4191504
>Most of this thread would seem to disagree
A lot of people disagree with shit. Almost always a majority of people tend to disagree about shit they're wrong about. It happens, get over it.
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>>4193338
I must have really hit a nerve. Try and work on your syntax, asshat.
>>4192724
Hack the new one, put your old SD card in it, bam. That's literally it.
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>>4191504
>I've always wanted a Wii mini, but I can't justify it for that reason.
Yeah I like the case design but it has no advantages compared to the original. What a shame.
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>>4193921
Exactly, for some reason I actually like manually loading disc-drives, fewer components to eventually break. The composite only video on the mini is also ludicrously stupid. I wonder if a Wii2HDMI adapter would work, even if only over the composite connection...
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>>4194014
I read that they're pretty similar to the 4 layer late model Wiis but the firmware was stripped down to the bare minimum so it doesn't support anything. It may be possible to move over the NAND flash from a hacked Wii to hack it and then solder in an SD card slot for homebrew but no one cares enough to try.
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>>4185273
this
got a wii with 2 remotes 2 nunchucks wires and accessories out the ass for £5. cheapest emulation system ive ever bought lol
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>>4192724
It wont let you copy some saves from multiplayer online games, also VC games have to be reinstalled if you are softmodded, mines is a RVL-CPU-40 and it was a great improvement from the RVL-CPU-20 , you maybe be right about that, somehow the system is a tad more responssive and lighter.
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One day someone will shove a PS1 through the usb slots on the Wii (forcefully) and make the goddamn perfect console

I was thinking of a raspberry Pi for that kind of emulation but apparently it's not so good for PS1. Why is it such a cunt to have something that:

-240 motherfucking p
-Supports external storage
-Supports every fucking retro platform, maybe except the N64 because god knows emulation is shit even on PCs TODAY
-Doesn't cost a leg
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>>4184293
With the classic controller it's perfect for emulating pretty much any 8 or 16 bit console (haven't tried Saturn emulation or anything); SNES emulation on it actually worked perfectly while ZSNES on Ubuntu gave me audio problems when I tried it back in 2010, just make sure you have your saves configured right (I lost my initial hour or two of Earthbound that way).

Needless to say VC wads are the best way to play N64 games absent the original console, just by virtue of nobody quite figuring out emulation for it. I could never get the N64 emulator I installed running, though.
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>>4196182
>ZSNES on Ubuntu gave me audio problems

Its ZSNES, I'm not sure what you were expecting.
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>>4196182

I prefer N64 VC on Wii to N64 hardware, the higher resolution rendering of 3D objects goes a long way in improving the N64's awful visuals.
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>>4196074
raspi is great with ps1. I haven't played every title, but the 3-4 I've loaded up play full speed, no graphical, power, or save issues, and fast load times.

And that's my gf's unoverclocked pi2. Also, remember that retropie has multiple emulator cores available, and you change a game's setting to use a particular emulator that works best with it.

I need to look up the 240p thing on the pi, I've just heard about it like a secret Puritan witcthcraft
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>>4196506
I've had similar experiences with PSX thus far, though enabling high resolution hack demolishes framerate. Not sure if the sound is entirely accurate as I haven't run it through a gamut of games.

Ironically, I've had slowdowns in Super Metroid though which is bullshit and depending on which emulator used for SNES the sound can be borked up.
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