KNOW YOUR ENEMY

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

QUMP
-Two maps still in progress
-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

OP
-2016 torrent of idgames archive is gone; needs replacement?
-Looking for more unique images to start each thread with

=== NEWS ===

[7-21] Anon map release: LEISURE.WAD
https://mega.nz/#!UyhnEYxA!BvZc-FDnp2Z6DqiyB3xD1_AJ04NWw9sPDFKE3NVUkXY

[7-21] 12.5 Quadrillion Shades Of Doom (monster randomizer)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=57310

[7-21] Anon map release: "an arena where you can practise fighting two archviles"
https://my.mixtape.moe/xlahtx.wad

[7-21] High Noon Drifter released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=57098

[7-20] New Insanity's Requiem release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37130&start=480#p1010044

[7-20] BloodGDX 0.771 released, fixes ROR
http://m210.duke4.net/

[7-19] Colorful Hell got updated to 0.90; adds gibs and White Archvile
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47980

[7-16] Spaceman333's proper release of his slow motion addon, adds actual slow-mo
http://www.moddb.com/games/doom-ii/addons/slomobullettime-ultimate-r3

[7-14] Anon shares a Masters of Doom audiobook
https://warosu.org/vr/thread/4117396#p4117883

[7-3] Anon makes a joke map while waiting for QUMP
https://mega.nz/#!lQQSSIjC!TtptcHyxmxi0STHHkYm067tbfCm8yBI77CiIsUIC18k

[7-3] ROOTPAIN V2; the sequel nobody wanted
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94860-rootpain-v2/

[7-2] scalliano's SUPER Shuffle released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=56220

[7-1] Doom Retro 2.5 released
https://www.doomworld.com/profile/13784-bradharding/?status=1728077&type=status

=== PREVIOUS ===

http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, or want to contribute to the OP, please reply/backlink to the OP or this post.

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So now ZDoom forums carefully dance around Graf's terrible behaviour, like they're on a minefield, trying their best to avoid triggering him and MaxED'ing the GZD.

Are there more Tonemaps for GZDoom out there? Or are the ones it comes with just it? They're neat to fuck around with.

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Any good art to use as inspo for Doom mapping?

>>4144921
if you're an oldfag like me, rachael's/soulpriestess' behavior really is nothing new
almost as much of a faggot as graf is, but at least graf is honest with you about how much he doesn't care about you

How do you kill the white archvile from colourfulhell? the one that spawns imp ghosts, I mean
do you have to shoot him or his ghosts to kill him?

>>4144921
so graf zahl is little kid in that twilight zone episode with magic powers who everyone has to constantly kowtow to and tiptoe around for fear of setting him off. awesome.

>>4144921
Can you explain the "MaxED'ing" part?

>>4144949
throwing a tantrum and abandoning the long running development project because of mean things some anon said about it somewhere on the internet

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>>4144949
MaxED was the dev of GZDoomBuilder and left in an autistic fury because people didn't like his terrible texture browser. The editor is thankfully still being maintained so who cares really.

Wonder how Duke Builder is going.

need cybernetic enemies

>>4144952
Nobody liked some texture shit he insisted on working on.

Also Graf has pulled similar crap before, he just didn't stay fucked off, which was a shame.

>>4144943
answer me

>>4144953
>>4144952
is his stuff so complex that nobody can replace him?

it's not like this community lacks coders

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>>4144921
Drama aside, you should try out Lilith.

>>4144961
This, it's a bit vague at times and the last couple of levels really fucking hate you but it's well worth playing.

Playing it to spite Graf is an unexpected bonus.

whatever happened to the guy who was working on a first person adventure game engine in doom

Hey guys, I have a pretty unique & original idea for a map, hear me out. The theme will be brick and metal. The gameplay will be really intense, inspired by Hell Revealed. It will start off in really cramped hallways fighting only Imps but will move outside to a giant RROCK19 field with Revenants everywhere. What do you think?

>>4144990
make it and i'll tell you

>>4144990
wow! why has no one thought of this before?

I'm playing HXRTC, does anyone know how I can get rid of that annoying computer hum that seems to play on tech maps? I thought it was the new lamps, but I disabled those and I still hear it.

>>4144948
it's GOOD you called that modder an idiot retard moron! everyone is happy that you did that!

>>4144990
just do what your heart tells you, famalam. there's thousands of WADs and everyone has played every vanilla idea at least one. if you wanna make normal maps, you do it because you enjoy the experience

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>>4144961
>theDMTexperience.wad

>>4145003
I can't remember if it's the ambient sound of a pickup or if that's from some other mod that had some equally frustrating shit going on.

I finished studying Calculus II. Now with the power of surface integers and differential ecuations in my hands, I shall play some DOOM

>>4144943
disable that bullshit you goober

>>4145032
>ecuations
don't skip english class

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yo, it seems the vectec site for the ZDL download is dead

for the next thread we may want to change the pastebin and add the ZDL gitthub - https://github.com/qbasicer/qzdl/releases

>>4145038
spanglish is the true patrician dialect

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>>4144953
post cacos

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>>4144961
>think its an "XD random glitch effects" wad
>there's actually thought put behind the levels
It was a nice surprise.

>>4144961
the fact that this pissed off graf is actually a huge benefit in its favor, now it'll get a lot more attention.

good for it, it deserves it.

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This is fun.

>>4145050
It's a proper throwback to old glitch levels instead of wacky missingno faggotry pasted everywhere.

I feel sorry for the dude, he put some serious fucking effort in and then gets called a retard by Graf and his suckups for doing his best to make sure the only weird shit is intentional.

Why can't I sign up on Doomworld? When I want to register an account it always says "You did not pass the security check. Please try again."

But the recaptcha passed and there is the green mark.

>>4144921
>lilith.pk3

I had a feeling that was going to cause drama among the gzdoom devs.

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Evolve makes for a bitching resource rip it seems

>>4145071
>>4145059
>>4145050
inb4 it wins a caco and pisses graf off even more

>>4144921
That thread is honestly a prime example of why I could never bring myself to get into the zdoom forums. Just doesn't have the right atmosphere I look for in a community.

>>4145094
Wins a caco and inspires other glitch wads, that way the gzdoom forums are flooded with similar mods.

>>4145080
Do you have any plugins like adblock possibly effecting things?

>>4145080
if you sign up by linking a twitter/facebook/google account it should bypass the captcha

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>>4145086

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Speaking of glitches, making a sky texture in Quake 512x256 instead of 256x128 causes it to completely flip out and interlace multiple parts of the foreground and background while stretching half the texture length-wise. Looks pretty neat in motion but the background flickers like mad and probably causes seizures; I'm sure if someone mapped out exactly what parts of the texture showed up where (instead of the usual left foreground, right background) they could make some sort of neat cyber-reality skybox or something.

>>4145112
fuuuuuuuuuuuck that

>>4145106

Apparently this was it. With Adblock disabled it worked right away, thanks!

>>4145086
keep going, I love salvage like this

>a multiplayer mod with shitloads of weapons and the ability to dynamically change the loadouts of the "slots" between matches, like Goldeneye or Perfect Dark.

Does this exist?

If not I guess I'll have to start but never complete it.

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>>4145046

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>>4145046

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>>4145112
>linking a twitter/facebook/google account

What difficulty does /vr/ play on? I am playing Scythe on HMP right now and the last third is moderately challenging for me. I did absolutely not enjoy BtsX Ep1 on UV. This rather annoys me because I always played the original levels on UV.

>>4145246
Ultra Violence because I'm an idiot.
a brave idiot, but an idiot nontheless.

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Work continues on the Blazter, I think this is shaping up to be fun and relevant despite the incredibly powerful sword.

https://my.mixtape.moe/vsfikf.webm

>>4145257
>Metal Warriors BGM

nice

>>4145260
I'm toying with the idea of adding Vital Mission to the list of Blaz music. I'm trying to keep Blaz's music choices either rock themed or medieval, but I think I could probably get away with slipping that tune in.

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>>4145046

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>>4145046

>>4145246
I play on UV usually. HMP if its extreme slaughter, like Sunlust or the second half of Resurgence.

I'm someone who doesn't find the originals all that challenging. Even Plutonia barely fazes me for the most part.

>>4145268
heh cute. like a tex avery character

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>>4145046
oc

>>4144960
thus far every gzdoom fork has failed. gz-gpl is obsolete as the original is fully gpl. gloome was abandoned, with its developer absolutely fed up of wrestling with the intractable code base. and so on.

>>4145086
I thought this was the burst rifle and the grenade launcher from doom 2016 fused together at first glance

>>4144953
9 commits total, last one was in March.

all github activity seems to be on a quake2 mod called Mission 64 now.

Am I imagining things, or are the animations for the enemies in quake 2 actually less polished than the ones in quake 1? Especially with melee animations.

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Are you guys ready for Jam 9?
https://twitter.com/americanmcgee/status/889667161953755136

>>4145290
They are equivalent, the weird part you see in Quake 2 is just the frame interpolation and that thing showing how shit is MD2 to hold vertex animations.

>>4145295
> one of those big fuckers right behind a door
no i am not

>>4145295
>big library
I like that.

>>4145295

"I'd like to check out the necronomicon please"

"You're on your own m8, hope you like rocket jumping"

>>4144921
>this is a shameful thread
Ironically, because of you and Chris.

>>4145094
That would just make my cock so hard.

>>4144796

can't you slow it down a bit?, seems a little inhuman

>>4145094
I would love it, just to see Graf making herself even more of an ass than she alread is.

>>4145101
Yeah. I was kind of thinking of maybe signing up to make a release, like a beta release, get some input, etc, but I'm having some serious second thoughts here.

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>>4145046

>>4145246
Varies.

Original maps I generally play on UV because they're really pretty easy, but mapsets I tend to play HMP because it's a bit closer to my speed.

>>4145246
yeah it depends on the wad, i can do every map in doom on uv from pistol start without trouble, same for doom2 with one or two exceptions (map30, i hate map30, so i never practise it). i still sometimes die on e4. tnt isn't too bothersome either, it's more that some of the maps are too boring to practise, but plutonia, well i've UVmaxed every plutonia level at least once, but some of them took a large number of attempts, and only repeated the feat with a lot of luck.

>>4144921
The devs really did act like children. I thought the creator was straight up. His mod was designed specifically for zdoom, he made it so no other source could be used. Nothing wrong with that, especially in a mod with very specific aesthetics using exploits of a specific source port.

Sad that his project thread is now locked and shamed away instead of having lots of comments, all because the devs couldn't keep their mouths shut. If I were him I would start another thread and specify that it was for posts about the wad only, not about source ports.

>>4145413
I'd ask him to come here and vent about those assholes.

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>>4145046

>>4145413
At least his Doomworld thread was more successful. Even got Linguica's seal of approval.

>>4143729
what wad is this

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>>4144915

has anyone seeing this?

http://www.unrealsp.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4195

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>>4145454
Mutiny, very good, would recommend.
A bit hard, so I would not recommend UV unless you're gud, it's actually rather challenging on HMP (but in a very good way).

Also playing with a WIP retooling of Immoral Conduct, so you wouldn't have to worry about SSG bumrape like I do.

>>4143729
how does your game look like that
im jelly

>>4145460
Aw yeah, love me some SP Unreal. Sadly not much made for actual Unreal instead of UT with OldSkool Amp'd, though.

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>>4145471
What do you mean look like that?

The maps are Mutiny
The gameplay mod is Immoral Conduct, being reworked by me.

>>4145508
it's got crunchy pixels and the way it's rendered resembles a DOS game rather than opengl

>>4145512
You can do the same with GZDoom, go to through the display options and turn off the Bilinear filter (which tends to be on by default), it'll make the pixels crisp and give you a bit of better performance.

What with the pasta?

>>4145532
DKG shitposting. Just report it.

How hard would it be to mix and match Final Doomer's weapons to have a custom class of sorts? Something like Plutguy's pistol, SSG, and the rest of Doomguy's arsenal would be cool to have. I know nothing about Decorate but I assume that I would have to fuck around with it to make something like that?

>>4145549
Shouldn't be that hard.

Basically smash them together, take out the stuff you don't want, then alter all the code accordingly.

Is Metroid Dreadnought still getting updates or is it dead?

>>4145565
It's finished, and was finished quite a long time ago.

>>4145568
I just wondered whether or not Term could still add some stuff just for the fun of it.

>>4145568
>>4145574
I hoped he could add an analysis visor.

>>4145576
I would like an option for a Samus status bar face.

>>4145070

Forgive me for asking, but what WAD is that?

>>4145639
GMOTA

Go Medievil On Their Asses.

>>4145641

Thank you. I've heard of it, just never gotten around to it.

Where may I find the GZDoom Builder fork/continuation? My Google skills are lacking.

>>4145642
It's pretty fun but also fairly hard. Going melee in a game designed to encouraged ranged combat is difficult.

>>4145246
UV always, but I never really play slaughter

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I've been playing this lately:

http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-wolfenstein-3d/downloads/bw-v45

It's basically Wolf 3D recreated in the Doom engine (more polished graphics, destructible furniture, sloped floors, elevators, etc), but with a lot more weapons, and a decent amount of Brutal Doom touches.

It's really quite fun, and it's the full Wolf experience, the first three episodes of the original game, and the three extra episodes of the Nocturnal Missions. It doesn't have the Spear of Destiny missions, sadly, which I've never been able to play.

If you miss playing Wolfenstein 3D, here's a great way to do it.

>>4145654

Oh, and here's a nice video review of it if you don't want to just jump in blind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dydUVhLplQ

>>4145656
I stopped watching when he said the gameplay's faster than the original and that blaz's more agile..

>>4145667

I mean, he's not technically wrong on the second count. You DO have faster movement speed.

As for the first, when you get into a big room and enemies start chucking grenades and you're taking fire from all sides AND long range enemies who have rifles, it does get pretty fast paced.

I mean, I've not played vanilla Wolf 3D in years, so I can't really compare. But overlook his nonsense, it's still a great WAD, and lots of fun.

Since in MetaDoom, the demon keys spawn near BFG's, does the same happen for the BFG only ammo?

>>4145560
Thanks mate, was able to get it to work.

>>4145654
>Brutal

Pass.

>>4145645
it's called "gzdoom builder bugfix", try searching for that

>>4145729
Thank ye.

>>4145726

To be fair, the only aspects taken from Brutal Doom are the gore and location damage. There are no fatalities or human shields or any of the other pointless shit.

>>4145113
>>4145150
>>4145287

This is the only one I know of. It's parnel's Auto-SuperShotgun. I can screengrab other guns though but that'd get me dickslapped for "not-retro"

>>4145102
>>4145094
>>4145390
My cock too.

What are some weird Quake maps?

>>4145756
Nyarlathotep: https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/nyarlathotep.html
a big low-gravity aztec meat meat, equal parts frusturating and awesome

lower forecourt: https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/coag3_negke.html
a big wandery non-linear void map, with an alternate gamemode (survival-ish)

weird comic art quake https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/wca.html
short surreal map by k. s. known for his various half life mods
city 2000
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/c2000.html
a small mapset with a urban/cyperpunk type theme not quite weird, but old "realistic" quake maps always give of an uncanny feeling that i find charming
there are probably more that i am forgetting, but i need to leave for work, i might come back with a few more later

Are there any wads that are RPG-style with, like, a skill tree? Howabout wads focused on strategy over straight combat?

>>4145767
>non-linear
my favorite mapping meme

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>>4145767
Yes. This is the sort of content I'm looking for. Thanks!

>>4145784
if like that one, try his other stuff, like "peaces like us" "sweet half-life" and "mistake of the pythagoras"

>>4145786
Oh, I remember those. Neat to find some other work of his.

This actually gives me an idea. A lot of currently industry employed map/level designers usually started mapping in DOOM, Quake, HL1 or HL2. A list compiling some of that work would be interesting.

I wish doom had some non meme movement tech like quake

>>4145795
>Quake
>meme movement quake

What does this mean?

>>4145795
non-meme

>>4145795
Dawkins invented the term "meme" long before Doom or Quake. Grenade jumping, plasma climbing, quad damage boosts and bunny hopping have always been memes. They just weren't called that until muh atheism popularized the term after "fad" wasn't popular anymore.

link me to cybernetic doom enemies that arent the cybruiser/cyberbaron

>>4145812
I meant skill demanding movement exploits, since SR50 is rather shallow and limiting compared to the options in any of the quake games

>>4145821
Well there are wallruns that require spatial awareness and map memorization so you can use it in specific cardinal directions. And horizontal rocket jumping is very difficult.

>>4145815
you tried drla's technophobia stuff?

>>4145831
I don't think we're allowed to rip from DRLA. Unless Yholl says otherwise.

one of the initial ideas was that the map was to be a Durla-specific map wad- you could play without it, but it was considering being built for DRLA and having some monsters specifically replaced as a result.

If that's the case, I might need a blue forcefield texture. Anybody remember what texture resource wad that was in? I remember seeing one

>>4145835
Speaking of Durla, did the nightmare cyber get an altered sprite?

>>4145795
>Term will never work on Cyberrunner again

;-;

>>4145576
a scan visor would be interesting from a coding standpoint, but what would it add in-game?

>>4145654
>It's basically Wolf 3D recreated in the Doom engine (more polished graphics, destructible furniture, sloped floors, elevators, etc),
There already exists a far more accuracy TC for this.

>>4145890

name

What is the ratio of sensitivity in quake based engines to gzdoom?

>>4145898
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=4608

afadoomer's wolfenstein 3D TC is crazy accurate

>>4145903

oh, I alredy played it, I thought it had >>4145654

>more polished graphics, destructible furniture, sloped floors, elevators, etc

>>4145903
is it? How does it differ from normal wolf3d?

>>4145903
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=4608

I dunno, the purists will hate me for this, but I like the polished graphics and more varied weapon selection. I could do without the Brutal Doom stuff though.

>>4145929
>not using the fuckoff chaingun all day every day

what are you, gay?

Yo, does the DOOM.wad music come in MIDI or mp3? in what instances do wads use MIDI?

>>4145963
the IWAD music is in MUS format, which is easily converted to MIDI by SLADE

non-MIDI music only tends to be used for zdoom maps, since MUS and MIDI are the only common ground supported by all ports

you could get away with ogg music in a boom map, since most people will use prboom+, zdoom, and eternity for them, but I'd still recommend midi

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ok, I'm on a surface pro 4 and this is causing unexpected graphical thingies ot appear

Apparently this aspect ratio fucks with the HUD, is there a way to get rid of the yellow bars in pic related?

>>4145971
wht's the difference between MUS and MIDI?

Will it change if I load a different soundfont?

>>4145978
MUS is basically MIDI with fewer channels and a file size limit

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MUS

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Alright. Six general rooms left and the outdoors. Something tells me my mapping partner is going to bail on me, so i'll probably have to end up doing the entirety of the outdoors myself.

>>4145978
aw dang. surface pro has 3:2 aspect ratio, zdoom doesn't have it.

I guess 4:3 will suffice.

>>4145654
To people who want a polished up Wolf 3D experience that's actually interesting and brings something new to the table, I rather suggest Totenkopf SDL.

>>4145740
Brutal Doom's gore is kind of overrated IMO, I feel NashGore does excess bloodspray in a much better way.

>>4146013
To people who want a polished up Wolfenstein experience that's actually interesting and brings something new to the table, I rather suggest RTCW.

Hey, can anyone explain the difference btween BASSMIDI and Fluidsynth for playing the game? Or I wouldn't notice a difference?

>>4146034
I'd suggest both, actually.

>>4146034
I actually liked RTCW, even if UberSoldaten were a pain in the ass to kill.
But I'm usually really bad with hitscan enemies.

>>4146060
The prototype soldiers aren't really too bad, but the full fledged super soldiers could be a bitch with their tesla guns.

>>4146065
There was a difference? I know there's a boss super soldier that has all three weapons, but I don't remember the prototypes.

Unless you mean these hilarious no-legged one.

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Hey anons, i'm going to add this guy as a new monster in my mod, he's not going to be a Cyberdemon for sure, he will stay as in his original statement mentioned in nuDoom Codex, any ideas for attacks before i start animating him?

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Hooboy, okay.

Whilst I should of been focused on the two side-rooms:

>>4145848
>>4145831
>>4145835
>>4145815

I went and did the additional two on either side of them. Stupid of me.

As a result thus far, I've run into a snag and don't know what room to start with. Help a comrade deliver a top-tier map?

>>4146083
>Not a cyberdemon
>clearly has cyberdemon ports

Cute, my foot-fetish boy. Open up the SuperDemon as a base and go from there. Certainly give him a bevy of attacks like his D4 equivilent but none of the cyber stuff, maybe the crescent slashes and the rock waves of immobility but yeah. Maybe some kind of charge that stuns him if he impacts a wall or non-thing? He'd be smart enough to try to actively avoid hitting them during it, though. Possible pick-up-and-throw of player?

>>4146090
Oh well, i didn't meant the cyber-demon category, i meant "The Cyberdemon", as is, i will not replace the Doom 3 one with this, i will add instead.

Anyway, yeah i was thinking about he using earth as his main form of attacks, though not anything all that martial like in ATLA or TLOK but with the attack effects pretty much the same, i love when there's a character that can bend earth like Terra from DC or Toph.

As for picking up the player, i will have to use ZScript if i want make it the simplier way, ACS would require too much hackery, also i'll keep his original size i think, a lot of monsters in the mod could have this ability since many of them are very bigger than 90% of the playable characters, but Zandronum prevents me from using ZScript yet.

>>4146083
shooting laser beams instead of rockets

>>4146113
obviously they should come out of those cyber nipples

seriously holy shit that is some blatantly mirrored texturing and it looks like a face

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>>4145963

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>>4146126
y-yes?

>>4146128

I'm disgusted but interested

>>4146128

are there jump pads in any doom wad?

>>4145295
>Romero making a Q1DM map
>McGee retweeting Q1SP stuff
WHAT IS HAPPENING

>>4146070
There were two kinds, the weaker ones which looked jankier, and the ones covered in strong armor plating which you had to shoot away at a lot, the first time you see one he's a boss encounter, with Deatshead overlooking the fight.

These were the finalized Super Soldiers that Deathshead made, he made like six of them, which the Paranormal Division wanted to use for sacrifices as they would be really strong warriors, something he thought was complete rubbish, as he thought they had genuine applications, and decided he would keep one for further study (I don't know if this is the one you fight the first time).

Later you fight a few in the last part of the game, two are guarding the digsite, and one is down in the mining shafts. The remaining ones were turned into deathknights in a the occult ritual at the end.

>>4146128

That is horrifying.

>>4146148
I never noticed that you end up fighting the boss version of the super soldier several times.

I guess I was too busy panicking.

>>4146157
Well they're a big dude in armor plating firing heavy weapons, it's pretty understandable.

I never actually noticed it as a kid, only in later years replaying it.

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>>4146128

>>4146128

>filters

>>4146158
I'm surprised I never noticed.
But I do remember crying when there's that mission in the crypt where guides told you to let the nazis die. I always tried to save them, and I remember crying when they tried to kill me.

>>4146128
yamero this

>>4145767
Not the guy you replied to but these are some pretty neat maps, thanks for posting 'em.

>>4146165
That's, uh. That's interesting.

>>4146175
I was a very nice guy. It's only when I discovered 4chan that I became a cynical murderhobo.

>>4146175
Maybe he felt horrible by the idea of a human being being eaten alive by horrible undead monsters.

I know I was scared shitless of the crypt levels as a kid, because the monsters were scary, and you'd occasionally hear or see people getting eaten, sometimes while still alive.

>>4146202
The monsters weren't scary. What was scary were the screams of the poor sap caught by them. I remember doing almost all the level with just a knife and the kick, to make the undead suffer as long as possible.

>>4146203
I guess I just felt them very imposing, their resilience, how they never stopped, how gruesome they looked and what they did to people.

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>>4146182
Welcome to the club. Unfortunately, it also turned me into a god-awful furfaggot.

>>4145646
I wouldn't say it's hard, the mod's awfully generous with health and ammo

>>4146204
I must be autistic, because I'm never scared by torture. It does, however, make me absolutely furious.

>>4146207
4chan does things to you. It changes you.

>>4146207
>>4146182
I'm the opposite, I joined the site as a shitty, angry nerd and then mellowed the fuck out over time. Now I've never been happier with life.

I played through the first few levels of Munity and ragequitted because the level layout was retarded as fuck and I never knew where the hell I'm supposed to go.

>>4146207
>>4146213
I joined 4chan as a speshul snowflake after being kicked out of several forums. They were massive circlejerks, but I was still a little bitch. I considerably mellowed down when I started posting.

>>4146217
One of the early levels is actually kind of really annoying in that, so I can see why. I was on the verge of quitting too.

I think maybe it could stand a 2.0 release to fix a couple of small things, maybe make that one level less obtuse.
Otherwise I think it's got a lot of good aspects.

Are there any wads that are one large continuous map with hubs and bosses?

>>4146165
even as a child you were /pol/

>>4146213
same t b h

4chan made me a happier guy, i learned how to chill the fuck out and to appreciate the littler things in life

Spent like an hour figuring out how to make fluidsynth work

turns out that after you configured the whole thing you need to change the MIDI synthesizer again and put it back on fluidsynth, or it won't be detected even if you close zdoom and load it again

>>4146145
it's called "middle age crisis"

>>4146145

quake 5 confirmed

>>4146226
They weren't officers or anything, just small soldiers.
Even as a kid, I knew that every soldier couldn't be held responsable for everything they did.

>>4146231
QVAKE

>>4146226
I don't like Communists but I'll still feel sorry for some poor 50's era Vatnik being eaten alive, alone and afraid, deep in an icecold tomb, because some asshole up in the brass had some fix idea to fuck with something they should have left alone.

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>>4146128

I think this needs a little TONS bit of polish

I have faith in you anon, go for it

>>4146242
I really wish I could've at least send them a rope, or have them following me around. Shit, even them just being grateful and giving me supplies would've been good.

q: is mouselook acceptable for vanilla gameplay

>>4146219
yeah pretty much. 4chan taught me to appreciate lots of things

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>>4146231
Would there ever be any way to merge the Quake and Strogg lore? Like for example the idea that the Strogg were actually a cult secretly trying to resurrect Shub-Niggurath? (hence the Phoenix in their flag)

>>4146247
mouselook is fine, even romero used mouse to look around

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>>4146225
Yes. ZDCMP/2.

I think my mapping partner was being a worthless scalie cunt and bailed on me. Whatever, his fucking loss considering he won't learn to map otherwise. Probably going to have to shitcan the whole map as a result as it was designed in mind of this.- It's not balanced nor designed for the player to initially start inside the building, as he was to get his full arsenal outside and deal with the vanilla roster there too before going inside.

>>4146252

I don't really like the idea

>>4146253
I mean full mouse look, up and down

>>4146259
it's not really vanilla, but the general impact on gameplay isn't that serious so

>>4146252
The strogg logo was praelevant in Q1, so I'll buy it.

>>4146247
I would say that it largely is if you don't use it to break sequence in maps.

The original game was largely intended for you to play with a keyboard for moving and then use a mouse for shooting and horizontal turning (as in, you couldn't look up and down), assuming you could set your PC up for that back then (so keyboard only controls existed as an option for people with no mouse or without enough memory in their machine to run a mouse and Doom at the same time).

>>4146252
desu I prefer to look at Quake and Quake 2 as two completely separate settings.

>>4146264
I guess I use it for "snipping", that is to say, enemies that I have a clearl line of sight of but the engine doesn't auto aim me towards them

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Please be patient i have autism

>>4146292

>i have autism

no an excuse

>>4146292
nice early doom2 map sense from this

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>>4146292
Please don't make fun of autism.

>>4146257
Now that I think of it, Quake is always more interesting because of the dimensional travel that allows very different themes, whereas Strogg is just generic sci-fi and gore. Quake has themes of Earth, Gothic, Infernal and Lovecraftian.

>>4146263
I wasn't aware of that. It actually makes it less of a good idea because having a phoenix logo for a faction whose goddess is alive makes no sense. After her death it would be sensible but I dunno...

>>4146304
Speaking as an autist, I will never not make fun of it.

>>4145960

The chaingun was great, but with only 99 bullets, it was kind of stupid. It ate through ammo too quickly to be of any use against anything except bosses where you NEEDED to put a ton of rounds downrange very quickly. I always ended up using the MP-40 for everything until I got to the boss.

>>4146305
Like I said, I'll go with it, This also being said, my worthles fucking mary sue character also directly gains from Shubby's death.

Also, I'm streaming my horrible failures at ZDCMP2. Watch if you give a damn.

>>4146292
getting a good underhalls vibe from this

>>4146297

*t

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game looks good

>>4145887
Fluff. Or maybe, for "bosses" monsters like the Cyberdemon or the Mastermind, a health bar.

>>4146412
This. Meaningless fluff + actually useful data please. I love meaningless fluff.

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>>4146263
The logos in Q1 vary a little bit, but they most commonly have skulls, sometimes a T-shaped icon, a lightning bolt on the 'access panel' wall textures, and no phoenix to be found.

>>4146421
Still reminds me more of the Strogg. Maybe the possessed troopers in Q1 become the initial founders of the Strogg?

I'd ship it.

>>4146419
I remember analyzing everything in Subnautica, expecting a lot of useless fluff, such as "similar plants are considered a delicacy to alien races". Got nothing.

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>>4146425
I mean, the legit reason is the artists liked the logo and mostly re-used it for Q2 so they didn't have to think of new designs. Same with the lightning bolt variation, the original skull version (which shows up on a number of walls and IIRC some of the crates in Q2 are straight ripped from Q1), and the appearance of parts of Q2's techbase theme in general (TRIANGLES).

>>4146440
For what the game actually was, these were extremely wise decisions though. It benefitted from such ideology. Though it really should of just been named a diffrent name instead of "QUAKE" so it sold.

Like I said prior, "STROYENT" or "QUAKE II: STROYENT" would of worked just fine.

>>4146439
you can stop bringing attention to yourself now

>>4146451
Knock it off.

>>4145246
I set the difficulty to be inversely proportional to the length of the wad I'm playing. A full megawad I use HNTR for. A single episode I will play on HMP. UV for anything shorter than that.

I only use ITYTD as an absolute last resort.

Why are there almost no Quake 2 source ports? Is the engine cursed or something?

>>4146465
I think it just needs one sourceport.

Also I think Doom and Quake 1 had much stronger lasting appeal.

>>4146138
The Skulltag multiplayer maps have plenty of jump pads.

>>4146482

can they be used on a single player map?

>>4146490
Yes, it's actually just a sector effect. You could set the entire floor to be a jump pad if you wanted. I presume the ability to make these is present in ZDoom but Zandronum/Skulltag actively uses them for its multiplayer content.

Damn, those alien bastards are going to pay-

>>4146465
yamagi does just fine. I don't see why you need to ask every single thread.

>>4146498
A-

>>4146504
Nobody steals our chicks an-

SOMEBODY'S GONNA FREAKING PAY FOR SCREWIN

>>4146507
hey, the sherriff is a n-

>>4146528
why are we allowed to trash the hell out of some people here (for an example see the end of the previous thread) but others are off limits?

>>4146534

Because this is purely a vendetta by a delusional, angry furry rather than something that actually contributes and involves the community at large.
It's the difference between shitting on the game market policies of Nintendo and shitting on the game market policies of Greg at the store down my road.

Whats the /doom/ opinion on starting a discord?

>>4146580
why?

>>4146580

Not needed.

>>4146580
if you got something to say post it here like a proper anon

>>4146580
irc for noobs. not interested.

>>4146580
For a project, it's fine.
For us, it's unneeded. We've already got a nice thread.

>>4146580

Haven't you learned your lesson from the offtopic shithole that was #vr?

>>4145268
whyboner

>>4146580

too much autism

I'm playing Plutonia

Have to say, the levels feel really crude. map05 has been so far the only nice looking one

>>4145295
oh god that's so pretty. quake's aesthetic would be so much better if it looked more like this

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What is this picture from?

It's the product image for Ultimate Doom on Bundlestars, and I'm really confused as to where it's from

>>4146613

is there a "revamped" quake 1 mod?

>>4146617

I've never seen this before.

>>4146608
No, but he is a pussy.

>>4146613
A fair amount of the textures in that screenshot (arches, bookshelves, possibly some of the bricks although I'm not used to staring at things that aren't idbase) are from vanilla Quake or have close equivalents in stock id1, and even the custom textures adhere to the original game's palette. Quake's aesthetic is entirely down to the mapper.

>>4146621
Multiple, and they're all fucking awful "SUPER HD MEGATEXTURE REMIX TURBO" stuff that doesn't touch the original brushwork or models, just slaps 1024px or larger textures on everything.

>>4146626
yeah that's what i'm saying. vanilla quake doesn't make very good use of it's visuals imo

>>4146623
This is why I'm so interested in it

Even tried reverse image searching, got Ghost Recon.

Why wouldn't they use a normal picture?

>>4145285
Honesly I could give a shit. So long as someone maintains it, new features are mostly icing at this point. The engine already does just about everything I want out of it.
Better/alternative multiplayer code would be nice, though. Client to client is inconvenient.

>>4146630
Well, it was pretty rushed, not to mention multiple level designers trying to make maps with multiple texture sets from artists who had no idea what the final product was going to look like, using pretty damn primitive tools for brushwork and very basic compilers that would take hours to run on the hardware at the time- even the high end workstations id was using- so there was no 'build, compile, test, repeat.'

Hell, lighting alone makes a huge difference- the bounce lighting and ambient occlusion available with a modern light utility can change the feel of a map massively.

>>4146632
>The engine already does just about everything I want out of it.
Basically this.

There's few times I actually hit a wall trying to do something the engine just can't do.

>>4146536
Nah I just thought it was funny

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>>4146617
on that same vein

what kind of cover even is this?

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SHI...!

>>4146617
Looks like it could be assembled from stock photos and Doom image assets.

Kind of makes me think of all those cheesy knockoff boxes in which people would distribute the Doom shareware in.

>>4146660
>what kind of cover even is this?
It looks like a coop session in some sort of mod with custom maps and weapons.

>>4146665
that cacodemon is adorable

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>>4146728

>>4146736
is it only me or do the barons faces in doom 4 somewhat look like a pinky's?

>>4146728
Speaking of which, did the new update for d44m add/change anything to snapmap?

Taking doodle requests. Pencil and pap

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>>4146758
No idea.

>>4146764
Baron sitting on a toilet chair and reading a newspaper.

>>4146764
Doomguy and Crash (Quake 3 Arena) on a date.

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>>4146632

I'd really really like the possibility of doing brushwork on a doom map

or somebody porting doom into quake at least

>>4146764
Fred Chexter teaming up with Count Chocula to fight evil.

>>4146780
You'd need a new editor for that too.
Speaking of, a feature I think would be cool for GZDoombuilder would be the ability to sketch a map on the grid. Like a paint overlay.

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>this
>the Beretta pistol
I suppose the chaingun is also of Italian manufacture?

>>4146794
The zombieman rifle wasn't based on that thing (they had probably never seen or heard of it), it just kind of looks like a weapon that'd fit right into Doom's aesthetic.

>>4146794
That's the ugliest fucking thing I've seen today.

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>>4146796
I'll one-up it.

>>4146795
I know, but it's my headcanon now. It just fits too well.

>>4146805
Sweeeeeeeeeet. My favorite part is the way it makes no fucking sense.

>>4146665
Need a Pinky version.

I feel like playing a Doom clone, but I think I've played them all.

>>4146780
>or somebody porting doom into quake at least
Talk about not making use of the Quake engine at all. Romero would be ashamed of you.

>>4146810
You should have seen it, it was from someone's HD sprite project, and everything about it was just anti-aesthetic in every way, see also >>4146765

This person thought THIS looked GOOD

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>>4146830

>>4146830
>>4146832
nope

>>4146764
ranger looking at shub niggurath and scratching his chin, unsure what to do

>>4146818
More pixels means more good.

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>>4146765
Does anybody have that image with the montage of shitty Baron sprites and a caption like "Just say no to HD sprite packs" or something like that?

>>4146860
>filename

is that what he calls it

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>>4144914

>>4146667
but bundlestars is an authorized reseller for bethesda

Most of the time, they use the same pictures you'd see on Steam
but this one just seems wrong. It looks like a poster for some fake unmade movie

>>4145059
SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM VERSION 8?

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>>4146617
>>4146917
>It looks like a poster for some fake unmade movie

That is exactly what that picture is, to a surgical precision I might add.

http://niteowl94.deviantart.com/art/Ultimate-Doom-Movie-Poster-347303337
^
That was the original url but it seems that the author deleted the picture, you can still find it using Google.

"Ultimate Doom movie poster by NiteOwl94"

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>>4146860

>>4146962
Well damn
Why are they even using it?

>>4146972
Rule of cool

is there an updated version of project msx that uses the zdoom reload function?

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oh jeeze, how do I get to the red key again?

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>>4146969
Hi Res was a mistake.

>>4147068
Step on the box and turn around quickly. Do it twice.

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>>4146768
Internet died, have a late delivery.

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>>4146772
I liked this one too much to just doodle. Please accept this.
That's Keen, Ranger, and Blaz spying behind the bush.

>>4147110
I wonder what it would look like if he had the actual ingame backwards legs.

>>4147121
He would look like he's going to fall backwards instead of forward.
Goatlike bipeds are weird

>>4147118
y e s

I'm looking through different mods and I keep seeing "####" "#" where the sprite name and rotation would be, what does it mean?

>>4147164
Good question, I would also like to know.

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>guys what if... we defrauded the IRS?

>>4147197
With pogs...?

>>4145070
What version is that? I heard Combine Keegan died, Im pretty surprised that wad is still being updated.

What is the best mappack to play HXRTCPROJECT with? Plz dont say nuts.

>>4147213
>I heard Combine Keegan died
you asshole, i thought you meant it. my heart almost fell out my ass

>>4147164
>>4147170

It means to keep the data of the previous frame.

>>4147213

You heard wrong.

>>4145848
No, it hasn't changed. Why?

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https://my.mixtape.moe/qzoqur.webm STOP RESISTING

>>4147281
Shit that's brutal

I now want a police brutality mod

Is there any script that I can just plop into my autoloads that forces pistol starting and is compatible with weapon mods?

>>4147286
WildWeasel's Terrorists might be what you want

>>4147291
Not that I know of, no.

>>4147291
>and is compatible with weapon mods?

Since most of them define their own pistol/fist and after ClearInventory you'd need to specifically re-give the pistol/fist, unfortunately no.

>>4146128
Where's the download link to this?

the one I got was Doom 3

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>>4147217
I'm not dead. Dingus.

>>4147217
Whoever you are, I love you too.

>>4147307
and I fucked up my quotes. >>4147213

>>4144921
I hope lilith.pk3 wins a Cacoward.
I know they barely mean anything but it's a really nice and fresh concept that deserves at least a mention.

>>4147084
what is this atrocity

Did Graf get upset when people started adding anti-BD scripts to their mods?

>>4147382
i wonder who's behind this post

>>4147382
>It was a totally reasonable change.
Lol.

>Graf actually seems to care about the experience of the laymen users who only play mods
Lol.

>>4147386

He hasn't specified.

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https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/random.php

It's roulette time again.
Roll until you get a singleplayer map/mappack, play a little bit (gameplay mod of your choice optional), post a screenshot and your thoughts.

>>4147386
That doesn't seem to be advocating the use of outdated versions of GZDoom though which I guess doesn't bother him.

How does he feel about DRLA, which also specifies it's designed for older versions in mind?