THE NOVEL(TY) ADAPTION

=== CURRENT EVENTS ===

QUMP
-Two maps still in progress
-https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp_ZqCZPJKk

OP
-2016 torrent of idgames archive is gone; needs replacement?
-Looking for more unique images to start each thread with

=== NEWS ===

[7-3] Anon makes a joke map while waiting for QUMP
https://mega.nz/#!lQQSSIjC!TtptcHyxmxi0STHHkYm067tbfCm8yBI77CiIsUIC18k

[7-3] ROOTPAIN V2; the sequel nobody wanted
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94860-rootpain-v2/

[7-2] scalliano's SUPER Shuffle released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=56220

[7-1] Doom Retro 2.5 released
https://www.doomworld.com/profile/13784-bradharding/?status=1728077&type=status

[6-29] Wildweasel releases No Shotguns For You 2, replacing all shotgun-related entities with automatics
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57073&p=1006547

[6-26] Russian Overkill 2.5 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=29915&start=1365#p1005931

[6-25] BloodGDX updated to 0.769, improves mouse control
http://m210.duke4.net/index.php/files/viewdownload/9-java/50-bloodgdx

[6-24] Spaceman333 released a Slo-Mo addon
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=57013

[6-24] Anon release; Lawgiver weapon
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f0mph24m8vglyu8/lawgiver.pk3?dl=0

[6-24] TerminusEst's pre-release of High Noon Drifter, a ZScript-driven mod
https://www.dropbox.com/s/in25xkxxr2wxe6t/HighNoonDrifter.pk3?dl=1

[6-20] Anon shares some stuff about ZScript HUDs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WmmsefkkMHMz1EN_3F-Y3_NR94uFr-2xxVJ7VvlJyPA/

=== PREVIOUS ===

http://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

=== PROTIP ===

If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, or want to contribute to the OP, please reply/backlink to the OP or this post.

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>playing Quake 1 for the first time
>every time I think to myself "it sure would suck if a shambler attacked me" that's exactly what happens

I can't tell if this is clever game design or if I'm just the unluckiest anon alive.

Is Heretic playable on highest difficulty on first playthrough? I usually play modern community doom .wads on UV. I also couldn't find information whether the levels were intended for "pistol" starts.

>>4104416
Maybe, but you have to keep your class in mind as well. The difficulty curve is different for each. Fighter tears through early game but then suffers from weak range options by the end. Mage is a squishy shitter at the beginning but becomes a walking nuke by the time he's done. Cleric is right in the middle if you want to feel more consistent.

If it's your first time, I'd just play it safe on the medium skill - but that's me, do what you think is best for you.

>>4104417
Heretic or Hexen?

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"Woahahahooo, what is that? Hell's coatrack? I don't think so!"

>>4104413
>enter the exit area
>there's pillars here
>there's obvious alcoves where enemies are hidden inside
>obviously they're gonna tagteam me with a bunch of arch-viles, like they did in those dark rooms earlier in the map
>it's just a couple of zombies
In one way, I'm relieved because the arch-vile scares the fucking bejeebus out of me, but on the other hand, I was also a bit disappointed, like a "That's it?"

I somehow feel as I'm unimpressed by my rapist's girth and performance.

>>4104419
I got really confused and mixed up the two games, shit man. I'm sorry. I guess Heretic would be just fine on UV.

[spoilers]I'm very tired.[/spoilers]

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Note to self: Timestop + Chainsaw = Obliteration

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>>4104437
Also messy.

>>4104438
huh huh huh what an mess

>>4104396
>Anon makes a joke map while waiting for QUMP
This is sensational. Great work!

Copy pasting this here since new thread.
Let's say I'm editing a gun and adding extra frames, even when I add the extra frames in code, the sprites don't show up, what gives?

>>4104495
Make sure the frames are recognized as sprites, you should use markers as "brackets" to group in sound, sprites, etc.

I once accidentally added frames outside these brackets without noticing and was frustrated beyond belief until I saw what I did.

>>4104497
So how do I check they're recognised as sprites? SLADE shows them as 'Graphic', just like all other frames of the gun.

>>4104498
Make markers.

https://zdoom.org/wiki/WAD#Flats.2C_sprites.2C_and_textures

Here, read this.

>>4104503
Boy do I feel stupid now.
Thanks.

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>>4104474
Thanks, buddy!

>>4104507
That's one happy marine! Look at that grinning face.

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>>4104416
It's much tolerable compared to Doom's Nightmare.

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>>4104510
More like that's one DOOMed space mari wait shit wrong game

>>4104514
how did you make the marine spin around in space like that?

>>4104514
>TrentReznorSearchingForSpaceBowie.png

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>>4104518
Some ridiculous genius found a way to make rotating (nonsolid) entities in stock id1. You can use either any .mdls or .bsp models already precached, or make your own brush props elsewhere in the map (like in webm related) and 'clone' them.

http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=37116&start=330&end=339

There's a few small issues, namely how the lighting on the entity is dictated by its original origin instead of wherever you put the info_notnull (so no casting shadows, either), and you'll often have to re-check the modelindex when adding more entities to the map, but the fact it exists at all is a massive step for map detailing without needing rogue/hipnotic code or any non-vanilla mod pack like Quoth.

>>4104520
>Ground HUUHntrol to Major Rom(ero)

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Debugging can be fun sometimes

>>4104416
Yes. IIRC you can "wand start" every level in the game. There're no hitscan enemies, melee enemies are pretty easy to beat to the punch even when they're fast especially on GZDoom, extra ammo helps a lot and monsters don't respawn.

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>>4103932
Thanks for the input Anon, the imps definitely look less flat now. (my shading sucks though)

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This is a really crunk elevator by the way, there's bars lower pegged to the side of it, so they follow the elevator as it goes down, *but not all the way*, there's steps and stops dividing up the bars so they gradually "detach" from the elevator itself as it goes down.

A very cool visual that's probably really easy to do, just screenshots doesn't do it justice.

>>4104505
Hey, I did the same mistake, and I've been futzing and fidgeting with Decorate and stuff for years.

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Good god this is a tall drop, I guess I'll pretend I'm rappelling down with a rope or something.

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This does call back to textures used in the original TNT, but just next to the standard painted zimmer textures, it looks a bit jarring, like it's the actual photo it is pasted onto a wall like a wallpaper.

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Woop, there we go, time to pitch some problem solvers around that corner.

This level, Devil's Den, has some really good creepy and tight caves, like just the right textures, just the right curves and shapes, just the right lighting.

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I really like how if you squeeze your way into these crevices you can see stacks of skulls.

>>4104549
I don't like the ammo icons in that hud.

They look janky or wierd. Namely the 4th dragondildo thing and the 3rd toddler mouthpiece thing respectively.

Meanwhile the 5th thing is just wtf. 1st thing looks like a buttplug, while the 2nd thing looks like a lame pillow-shaded rectangle.

Needs more color and better silhouttes man.

>>4104546
>just the right lighting

Then why ruin it by throwing down a bunch of flares

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Well of course.

At least they're out of my range.

>>4104591
Yeah, it's one of the aspects that haven't perhaps aged so well with Immoral Conduct, I'm thinking of replacing it with a version of NC-HUD, but I don't know how many people want a feature like that to be integral of a gameplay mod, some prefer their own HUDs

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>>4104592
Because the caves have arch-viles in them and I'm scared, especially with them running around in the dark.

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>>4104524
Well that's pretty damn cool. You should expand it and let us add it to QUMP, or even just let us add it in as a secret or something.

>>4104603
It's a bit small even for a secret, innit? On the flipside, I doubt I'd be able to make a full map out of it, at least in such short order, plus I wouldn't want to make shit complicated with QUMP supposedly already so close to release (the Google Docs file apparently hasn't been updated in a while- there's a couple complete maps linked but I'm waiting for the whole shebang so I haven't spoiled myself on 'em).

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So here I telefragged an arch-vile, apparently...

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>>4104624
... and I'm stuck in this small room with another arch-vile.

No cover, no escape.

>>4104620
Up to you man, it would be pretty funny as a random secret map. If not, we definitely hope to see you in QUMP 2! Certainly cool to see those effects work in vanilla. I would love to know how you set up the whole "need object", "get object", "use object" type of thing - seems like Quake 2 tech and I'd love to know how to do that kind of thing in Vanilla quake.

So far we have 6 maps done for QUMP and 2 WIP, as well as the starting map. There's some quality stuff in there.

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>>4104627
Remember, you're not stuck in there with him.
He's stuck in there with YOU

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>>4104627
So the chainsaw actually kind of does alright in a pinch like this, assuming you don't mind eating maybe 50-60pts of damage, but otherwise surviving.

>>4104629
I made my waifu proud.

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>Trying to figure out how to mute sounds for slomo.
>Can mute music, but can't mute sounds globally.
>Can only mute sounds one by one, per each source.
>End up muting sounds by literally nuking all sounds channels with a silent sound file 35 times a second.

ZDOOOOOM

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>>4104628
Well shit, in that case go ahead and throw it in if you want, all I ask is that if the map pack has a credits file, it's thrown at the bottom of the list with a name credit. If it needs an actual exit back to the hub/no insta-death Shambler/a readme file with credits/info, I could make a couple quick edits and recompile- is the Google Doc accurate that qump_start is still the name of the hub map?

> I would love to know how you set up the whole "need object", "get object", "use object" type of thing - seems like Quake 2 tech and I'd love to know how to do that kind of thing in Vanilla quake.
A hectic mishmash of a sadly large number of relays and triggers to recreate the effects of having a key without the player actually having a key, basically. Setting up the button itself isn't that hard- the button itself is linked to a spike shooter in a separate box the player can't reach, which in turn shoots a makeshift button (InitTrigger 'entity') that toggles the screen- there's a wall blocking the button that gets removed when the player first touches the trigger over the makeshift key, then touches the trigger spawned immediately after at the dropoff point. There are probably simpler and easier ways to do that with less entities (delayed-spawning the trigger might work, actual buttons and doors are very resistant to delayed spawns and will cause an immediate crash), but it was late, I was tired, and I had to poop.

It's the various deleting and creating brush models that takes up all the work, a whole bunch of trigger_relays that all have to do different things because you can't set a trigger_relay to have both a target and a killtarget in vanilla Quake and all the entities have to have different targetnames because they aren't all always activated at the same time.

> crash TNT lost souls
goddammit kinsie
i can't handle this

>>4104416
Christ, it took me like 10 attempts to kill D'sparil on black plague possesses thee.

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>>4104395
saved this pic

>>4103650
As master chief says to 343... "Thats not going to happen"

However I have had this fantasy of having a 3d game presented as 2d sprite based Without simply rendering the models from some fixed perspective (im thinking of a Fallout 1&2 remake here).

Instead of displaying the actual models, before any given character or object is needed in a map/area all of its frames and rotations are rendered from a high resolution model (and if the area has a real specific need for lighting on it, it would load a different set of shaders for the model when rendering it). All of that is saved in a temp file, and then the game just loads those images and uses them.

Zoom and Resolution of the screen could benefit (though would require a re-hash render of all the frames currently referenced). I doubt it would take longer to perform than the standard video-refresh for changing a renderer in another game (5-15 sec).

Abit more clunky than simply zooming in and out with a mousewheel like we're accustomed to, but older games had features like this which you were thankful for even if in those days it necessitated a trip to the Options screen to do it.

Then again it could also render those sprites at a higher resolution and just resize them based on your zoom level, so you could zoom 50-100% without (however due to resizing artifacts on the edges, depending on how good the blending/antialias algorithm is, people would notice this and screech, autistically)

The temp file for this level of high res sprites in a given map/area could top hundreds of MB but these days thats not a problem.

Something like that could be done for doom or other FPS (though it will require a GPU unless its all prerendered before the area/game starts). And with that you could reasonably have 16 rotations, with perhaps up to 4 transitional above and below rotations each.

> the reason its not going to happen...

Post Processing effects to make it look all spritey...

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>>4104507
Thanks for reminding me...

Does anybody have any sprite versions of the Quake1 Grunt or Enforcer soldiers?

>>4104627
>>4104637
> implying you will take anything less than 83 damage

But dude you've got 400hp between your health and armor. You're good to go. You should only be BTFOd once, at most.

>>4104584
Somebody ought to make this a feature, where there's a hidden crack in the wall right there just wide enough for the player to get through. No texture misalignments or anything, it looks just like that but when you get up close to it you notice you can somehow merge/fit through the skull vein there.

And outside the standard purview of level advancement I would love it if every once in awhile, the level you're in is actually a Hub and has secret levels branched off of it, that well hidden secrets like this lead to. Come back and the level is just like you left it.

>>4104289
>>4104309
> "This will be the sixth time we have done it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it" - Architect

Someone else will just make another image hosting site to give imgur the finger, which will then within 4 years become subdued as well.

>>4104689
I think a lot of damage (at the least guns) have different calculations in ICD, I don't know if it'd do the same thing.

I downloaded quakespam and everything works fine except I don't have a status bar.
Anyone else get this issue?

>>4104713
Tried scaling the screen? The buttons to the left from your backspace. It's the same as with Doom, if you scale it too big the hud disappears.

>>4104716
thanks a million man

>>4104416
All levels in Heretic are designed for wand starts. However the later in the game, some of the levels are downright nasty for it. Meaning that another weapon may not be in plain sight, and you may have to search for some crystals for the wand before you'll be able to chew through some room to get at it.

In some cases you get the Gauntlets early in a map, though I wouldn't exactly call that better than having the wand/pistol.

>>4104512
This, while they may not give you a weapon sitting right there in front of you, if you're familiar with the map then you probably know where the starter weapon is.

The only thing thats super annoying about nightmare mode on heretic is all the fireballs the gargoyles throw. I know they only do 1d8 damage each but still its a real pain in the ass.

> not sure but I think all the axes the ghost knights throw are blood axes too

>>4104527
Make sure you use your Phoenix ammo as much as you can. In my experience I often have full/stocked ammo on phoenix orbs and im usually using up hellstaff and dragon's claw. The amount of ammo in Heretic is ludicrous.

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>>4104716

Hey how exactly do I get my status bar back up to the proper size? Ive fiddled with the HUD options but nothing seems to change it (back up to 2x pixel ratio).

I play windowed so I cant just do 320x fullscreen.

>>4104739
Also pic related congestion 1024 (map22)... how the fuck are you supposed to get that red key?

I had to enable Jumping to get up there and grab it.

>>4104740
there's supposed to be an invasion ambush after which the key lowers

>>4104752
Thats not what im talking about, I survive the ambush but when the pillar lowered all the way the card was still stuck at the position indicated on the screenshot. You cannot reach it from standing position, it never lowers all the way to the bottom even though the red pillar disappears.

This is a mod, but the keys are not touched at all (graphic replacements only, no code entries)

Any good weapon mods without a super shotgun replacement?

>>4104537
>>4104549
wad?

>>4104780
All of them. You can play Doom 1 wads with all Doom 2 mods.

Been browsing doomworld and noticed there are some people who hate death exits with a passion. Why is that? I could understand finding the explosions and Romero scream that a lot of them do annoying. But I always understood the point behind death exits as meaning the next level starts a new episode, or is designed in a way where carryovers would trivialize its intended challenge.

>>4104792
TNT Revilution.

It's sort of thought up as a sequel to TNT Evilution, though most of the maps don't really feel very TNT at all.
That said, a lot of them are really good on their own merits so there's that.

>>4104803
they usually break compatibility with weapon mods where carrying stuff over is the whole point, i remember seeing some angry code in D4D where only a fraction of the player's inventory would be given back to them after a death exit

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>Fuck this bull honkey, I spent too fucking long being patient and methodical with this level
>Yellow key is over there? k fine I'll just Sanic and grab it
>it worked

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>>4104647
>Overloading all sounds channels end up not working either
>The only last idea I can think of is to iterate through every TID in the game (theres 999 of those) for all 8 sound channels per tic.
>Basically its a performance bottleneck from hell if I'd do that, rendering the mod broken and useless in the process.

FFFUUUUUUUU

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what a fucking mess

>>4104803
>I could understand finding the explosions and Romero scream that a lot of them do annoying.

That's the main reason, to be more precise. There's no warning whatsoever once you step inside an "exit" teleporter that turns out to be what you described.

Valiant did it better, IMO.

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>>4104906

>>4104893
Alternatively, you can go to ZDoom forums and ask there.

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>>4104910
I did, I ended up making a GZDoom feature suggestion. Hopefully it gains some traction to get implemented or maybe some hidden feature will end up getting unearthed in the process.

Heres the new version of the slomo mod with a couple new features and bug fixes:
www
filedropper
com/slomobullettime

If I could just mute all sounds, then this mod would be perfect.

>>4104932
But why mute them, if you're not stopping time?

>>4104909
What mod?

>>4104937
Try the mod and you'll see. You'll get a really cool gameplay feature, but a choppy sound that ruins the mood.

>>4104932
>>4104937
Replace all the sounds with cheesy deep stretched out versions

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>>4104959
The mod wouldn't work outside of slomo or with any other mods then.

where is a good place to download the mod that lets me have the dual uzis from shadow warrior classic?

>>4104970
Make a process for replacing the sounds in bulk and then add patches for whichever more popular mods are requested

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>>4104979
That still wouldn't solve the issue of the Slomo being an on-demand ability that the player can turn on and off.

If I'd replace all the sounds, I'd essentially end up making the normal gameplay sound like shit, while having those sounds getting muted and then played choppily every half second. It wouldn't solve the issue either.

>>4104992
Is there not a way to switch the sounds back and forth?

>>4105000
Not really, no.

Though the issue of the timefreeze power that is responsible making all sounds and music muted while its on would still butcher those modified sounds too.

>>4104952
just a personal roll-your-own kinda thing

its got IMX's black panther as a hell knight replacement, I made it randomly drop bottles when you kill it as a bonus

>>4104952
Also anyone know of any other 1024 expansions?
Ive got Congestion and Claustrophobia.

.pk3 mods are always for ZDoom and family or other engines can use them too?

>>4105017
Claustrophobia 2
Plutinya

Theres also a 2048 mapset, Mayhem 2014

>>4104803
Some people just hate the idea of losing their BFG and backpack.

>>4105031
i think Eternity has PK3 support.

>>4105050
as repayment for this treachery, along with other cheats necessary to move to the next map, an IDFA gets thrown in with it

I never ran into a death finish until I played congestion. I would think they'd do one of those endings similar to arch violence (1-11% health remaining)

>A Commander Keen replacement that is an ass in the ceiling, in which if you shoot, it drops a load of shit that falls to the floor.
Has anyone ever done this?

>>4105065
No. This is your chance to be a pioneer.

>>4105065
ancient aliens did this, and it was a shitty replacement

>>4105065
But why?

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>>4105065

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>>4105065

>>4105070
Fucking kek

>>4105065
haha yeah if you shoot them they go BRAAAP and it's all stinky :)

>>4105070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc

>>4104739

Options > Display Options > Scaling Options

Commander Keen is playable with a keyboard layout or a controller is totally the not retarded way to play it?

term, add an option to disable bouncing on grenades

i use them similar to rocket launcher style weapon, but the bouncing makes them difficult in scenarios where i'm aiming around enemies in order to corral them into a one place

I wanna make a total conversion mod for either the Doom or Quake engine to make a King's Field-style action RPG out of it, full game and everything, does anyone have any suggestions as to what engine I should use and why? Also, is it possible I could use a source port to get it on like a PS1 or something?

>>4105176
If you're aiming to make a full game, you would likely use either GZDoom or Dark Places, since those engines are designed not just as source ports but full engines for people to make games with.
Getting it on PS1 is another matter.

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>>4105154
its not there

>>4105190

Sorry, that's what I get for typing without checking.
It's Options > Hud Options > Scaling Options.

>>4105189

can I get proper 3D models in GZDoom and all that? What would the differences be between that and Dark Places?

>>4105203
The main difference you'll find is that Dark Places was build with 3D models in mind while GZDoom kind of hacks them in at best.

>>4105196
thanks, found it there, somehow I kept missing the part that needed to be changed

>>4105203
GZDoom = Doom Engine
Dark Places = Quake Engine

>>4105209

could I get Dark Places to run on a raspberry pi? I don't plan on making it very pretty or anything, and how portable would it be? Maybe I could just go for the Ultima Underworld look and use GZDoom instead

>>4105216

A cursory look says yes.
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=72301

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>>4105169

Here you go, anon.
Another anon was talking about grenade bouncing a little while back, hopefully this suffices.

>>4105216

ughhh but DarkPlaces can't get the software look, maybe I'll just use GZDoom

>>4105254
why not use any of the other quake engine ports that are out there, or even use the original engine itself?

>>4105258

that dude said it'd be harder to make a TMC with them, idk if that's true, I'm considering qbism super8

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>>4105040

Cant seem to download Clau2 ... the akinomori site isnt responding.

>>4105258
dark places explicitly has a gpl license, allowing it to be used as a basis for games

>>4105348
you can use FreeDoom with Gzdoom to create a full conmercial game?

>>4105379
technically you should. another thing is you being able to make it worth selling.

>>4105384
no yeah i totally acknowledge that, i just asked for curiosity about legal terms

>>4105379
yes, you could
gzdoom is now completely gpl 3.0 compatible, you could theoretically bundle up freedoom and gzdoom and sell it

nobody would actually buy it and you'd be made a laughingstock, but it is completely possible

Another devdiary from SGtMarkIV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaNlb19H1Ic&ab_channel=SGtMarkIV

>>4105570
Why does the girl look a bit like Samus Aran?

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I'm trying to get dialog to work, based on a thread at the zdoom forums, but I can't seem to start a conversation with more than one monster.

Has anyone figured this out? The wiki seems to cover alot without helping get to a "Hello World" point.

>>4105570
literally all he did was nick the sounds and hud face from another wad

wow

w o w

w o w
o
w

>>4105570
>in this dev diary i will showcase a feature i took from another wad

At least he's honest about it.

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>>4105570
Good to see Mark jumping on a bandwagon he hated.

>>4105584

Isn't pretty much 90% of the assets in Brutal Doom nicked from other wads? Why do people praise this shitty glorified goremod so much?

>>4105640
i like it because it's fun

not that there isn't a whole bunch of problems with it, though, and mark's been spinning his wheels so much with it lately.

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>>4105647
>fun
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP HAVING FUN

>>4105647
Honestly, Mark should've been finished with BD over a year ago. Maybe even two years.
Move onto a mapping project, dude. One that's not Burtl.

>>4105640
People think game mods in general don't deserve any form of standards.

>>4105580
>Skeleton Shoppe

Can i configure the Gzdoom to use the hud over the screengame with a 4:3 screen ration like vanilla doom? and play in a square forced 800x600?

How i make the game looks totally vanilla on gzdoom? even when i choose the software renderer over the OpenGl renderer the game has the smooth linear map textures, not the pixelated grainy of old doom

>>4105649
no

>>4105580
Right. First off, since you're using ZSDF, make sure your DIALOGXX lumps are *not* including SCRIPTXX lumps.

so
>include = "SCRIPT01";
should be
>include = "DIALOG00";

Secondly, the conversation block for your Revenant includes an 'ID' parameter. That's not a thing in ZSDF; whether you're assigning conversations to actors, or giving items to the player, you never use ConversationID, only the actual actor name.

Thirdly, you're defining multiple conversations for the same actor in the same map. You can't do that.

>>4105662
Aw. :(

>>4105649
I play Brutal Doom just to make my day even worse.

>>4105654

I think that popular mods that might even benefit the dev financially should have some standards. I'd be okay if BD used stolen content at first, but I'd also like to see him put in the effort and make his own sounds and graphics now that his mod has become more than just a sunday project with five followers.

what are the best optimized quake source ports?

>>4105765
Quakespasm

>>4105661
the original game isnt 4:3 ratio, its 320x200 which is 16:10 ratio.

>>4105684
Will brutal doom run in software mode?

>>4105779

you're a retard, it's 320x200 but it's displayed in 4:3, have you never played Chocolate Doom?

Do you think they had 16:10 monitors in 1993?

>>4105779
yeah i jut found a way to look vanilla with 1152x864 the only resolution who mantains the square screen ratio in my PC.

And i disabled all the opengl stuff, rocket traces, blood and bullet puff in only sprites, no particles effects at all, sector light in software mode, no adjust on sprite clipping, no smooth sprites edges, no texture filter, sprites always faces camera, is looking totally vanilla already, i even disabled the redering interpolantion and monster movement interpolation,no particles

Now the texture format (RGBA8/RGB5_A1/RGBA4/RGBA2/COMPR_RGBA/S3TC_DXT1/S3TC_DXT3/S3TC_DXT5) i need to know the one from those who looks more vanilla, with no translucency and etc.

in the vanilla 93 doom , theres no particle effect or translucency right?

>>4105647
Seems like after Brutal Doom there will be Brutal Heretic and a reboot of Brutal Hexen, because Mark promised that for his Patreon backers.
Seems like he is becoming a slave of his own fanbase.

>>4105796
>>4105816

im not exactly sure how CRTs worked, back then when I was a kid all I know is it displayed just fine on my monitor

then again 640x400 and 640x480 also peacefully coexisted, and it also displayed 640x350 ega mode too, and it would even display 400x300 (my favorite res to run quake 1 back in the day). Most CRT went up to 1280x1024.

And it did this without doing any post-processing on the pixel ratios for the screen. For example 320x200 displayed exactly 200 lines of pixels, it didnt display 240 and just double up on some of the lines every once in awhile.

so maybe you're not familiar with exactly all a CRT could do

>>4105820

http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Aspect_ratio

you need to give this a read bro, pixels were non-square at the time

>>4105826
I just find the right square resolution for my monitor is 1152x864 now i need to know if there was particles in traces and blood and tranlucency because i need to change the texture format to the one who gets closer to th original in that days. somebody can read >>4105816
and help me set this one?

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>>4105819
Hoo boy.

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>>4104507
>>4104510
>>4104514
>marine

>>4104531
Is this going to be a functional kirby mod?

>>4106006
yes, marine
as in 'space marine', what's the issue?

>>4105819
>Seems like he is becoming a slave of his own fanbase.

I can already see him becoming increasingly bored with those other projects and then lashing out against his backers.

>>4106026
He's a ranger. Different role.

Not everyone's Doomguy.

>>4106167
id themselves call him a slipgate marine, just assume military shit works different in whatever shithole dimension he comes from

>>4106167
According to Quake Champions he's a marine

>>4105312
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/1024cla2

>>4105652
This, so much.

He's a good mapper and I actually want to see what he does when he focuses himself on making a standalone mapset.

>>4106220
as much as I enjoyed Brutal Doom and Still waiting for the next update to have to have endless mags

I'd would Love for him to make more maps though after playing the hell on earth starter pack

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I fucked up.

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>>4106258

>>4106258
cacodemons are adorable

>>4106258
IT'S AN AERIAL RAVE

>>4104662
>is the Google Doc accurate that qump_start is still the name of the hub map?
yep thats right, you can upload your map to the googledoc if you like, with your credits, or join us in the discord (the link is at the top of the google doc)

Cool work on those triggers and relays. inspiring stuff with what you can do with vanilla.

>>4106258
It's over, they got the high ground!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lASzhXSD5us

-

>>4106281
wrong thread?

Is it possible to make a monster infight a monster which otherwise wouldn't be infighting?

Say I have two flavors of arch-vile, all the other monsters are afraid of them, so they won't do shit to them, they're flagged as such, but if a Type A Vile accidentally hits a Type B Vile, can I make it so shit's on?

Would I need ACS for this?

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>>4106269
Alright, sweet. I'll swing by the Discord, make a few changes to make it a bit more of a proper map with an exit to the hub, and upload a new version hopefully sometime today. Sorry for not making a full, actual map, had I known how much was possible in vanilla Quake through map hacks and how fun it is to experiment with them I would have started way earlier!

>Cool work on those triggers and relays. inspiring stuff with what you can do with vanilla.
Pshh, I'm just using basic logic and lots of experimentation combined with a bunch of saved hacks from func_msgboard and Preach's website. The real people who deserve the praise are the ones figuring out how to make QuakeC their bitch without having to compile a single thing.

>>4106337
I have a similar problem, I want a monster to only be able to target a specific species, but I don't know how to get it to ignore other monsters.

>>4106405
>>4106337
Thing_Hate via ACS, I think.

>>4105247
>Epic 2
Oh no

>>4104395
>tfw no DOOM chose-your-own-adventure book

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>>4106262

>>4106460
> cacodemons are actually blushing 24/7

>>4105652
>>4106220
>>4106223
Hell on Earth starter pack is Mark's right? What did you enjoy about it? I see his mapping being praised on here fairly frequently but personally found it quite underwhelming

>if killed by a telefrag, enemies don't activate their target/killtarget fields
fuck

>>4104375
This is a very good read. I wish anyone who wants to make an old school FPS understand hitscanners can indeed be used in a way that contributes to fast paced action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1QYD8Dz2FE
This is neat

>>4106453
That seems more like it'd just make them attack each other on sight, not quite the effect I would be looking for, more that the viles should be feared by the other monsters, but fight each other.

Maybe no such function exists in ZDoom

>>4106478
I haven't played that one, but I've played a few of his standalone maps, and his contribution to the /vr/ Speedmap Pack from a few years back, and the last one in particular I felt was a very solid map in terms of gameplay (and also looks, incidentally).

>>4106526
Great insight fren

>>4106526
>>4106534
> low effort shitposting
i guess thread is asleep every time this happens

are there any good mapsets that make use of non euclideon worldspace as a central theme?

>>4106547
>non-Euclidean geometry in a 2D game

>>4106551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEGPdDaXmAM

Non-euclideon geometry in a 2d game.

>>4106405(me)
>>4106453
A better way to phrase my question; how do I make a friendly monster not target its own species, without getting stuck in an endless A_ClearTarget loop?

>>4106561
And Venezuela isn't real socialism?

>>4106573
...it literally isn't Non-Euclidean?
the Parallel Postulate still applies in that map's geometry.

>>4106579
But it's convincing enough for the engine's capabilities is my point.

Are there any maps that abuse linedef portals, mr. science man?

>>4106570
species automatically don't do damage on each other and therefor don't attack each other. You will have to set the species in decorate, which is pretty easy to do.

https://zdoom.org/wiki/actor_properties

https://zdoom.org/wiki/DECORATE

>>4106592
Does that include a +FRIENDLY [Speciesname] with a normal [Speciesname]? If so, holy crap that was easier than expected.

>>4106598
Aaand nope, FRIENDLY overrides species, fuck. Why isn't there a filter in A_LookEx like there is with other functions like A_RadiusGive?

QUICK!
GIVE ME A RANDOM WAD TO PLAY

>>4106642
stardate 20x6

>>4106643
THANKS DUDE!

>>4106648
gl hf
or should i say
prepr uranus

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>>4106681

>>4106694
Should be a title for a wad.
"URANUS"

>>4106696
Does Uranus have any moons one could build bases on?

>>4106706
Oberon
Ariel
Miranda
Umbriel
Titania

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>>4105570
J U S T

>>4106720
This is why people should make mods that are stylistically incompatible with base Doom. Less chance of Marky Mark getting his fingers on it.

>Quake music won't play
>the CD is clearly accessed and read from as usual, but for some reason the game wont' play the music
>CD music volume in the game settings is at max (adjusting it makes no difference)
>CD audio is not muted in the sound card mixer (the game takes full control of the soundcard anyway and maxes all faders)
>sound effects work fine, just no CD music even though the game reads from the CD
>OS is Win98 (old computer from the late 90s)
>executable is standard DOS quake.exe v1.08 (winquake.exe gives a black screen for some reason, but CD audio surprisingly works here)
>CD audio doesn't work in Win98 "dos mode" either
>but it works fine under DOS 6.22 (but graphics is slower due to no acceleration)
>loading a DOS CD driver and mscdex.exe under Win98 doesn't help

Anyone has an idea what the problem might be?

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"So I says to him, 'It's my Cacodemon, I been tending Cacodemons since I was four years old.'"
"Right, right."
"And I'd know if my Cacodemon was in love with you."
"For God's sake."
"He says to me, 'I know your Cacodemon's in love with me.'"
"So you said how, Revenant?"
"So I says how! And he says, 'Well, she fucks me, don't she?'"
"And that's when you hit him."
"Right across the eyes with a missile. And now the Mastermind says I have to pay the bastard money because he went blind."
"Not fair."
"So I says to him, 'You didn't think he was gonna go blind fucking a Cacodemon with mange?'" "That would have been your fault, too."
"I would have gotten blamed for that, too. But what am I supposed to do when I find my Cacodemon laying on its side in the field, fucked within an inch of its life and a naked Mancubus with blue blood and GUTS all over his peck? Hit him with a missile! Fucking right I hit him with a missile!"

Has anyone here played Shadowcaster? How does it measure up to Wolfenstein or even Doom?

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>>4106767
i'm fucking gonna jerking off so hard right now

>>4106780
it's a really interesting historical novelty, but that's about it

>>4104907
>valiant did it better
yeah but muh prboom compatibility

>>4104907
>Valiant did it better, IMO.

BTSX E2 did it the best. Only sound emitted is the teleporter you entered.

How come the Wolfenstein SS replacements in Space Hunter still have the SS guard sounds?

>>4106848
They're Nazi Wizzrobes.
Nazrobes

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>>4106767
wut?

Is there a way to make the music stop or change when it reaches the end of a track?

>>4106854
Castlevania

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how do I achieve maximum fps on gzdoom?

>>4105663

"id" is a new element added to Conversation Blocks in ZSDF, right?

>https://github.com/rheit/zdoom/blob/master/specs/usdf_zdoom.txt

How else would Doom know which monster says what?

>>4106904
turn off bloom and AO for starters

>>4106904
recompile it to run 120 tics per second

>>4106904

throw a berserk pack over your case

Get ready guys I'm doing something fucking retarded.

>>4106006
>>4106026
>>4106167

> implying Army Rangers is < Marines.

The only downside to Ranger is he doesnt get an ammo expanding backpack. On the other hand he carries max ammo on shells and rockets already at the same cap as doomguy even with a backpack.

And he had the sense to bring an axe to chop up monsters rather than just relying on brass knuckles.

>>4106958 (Me)
I just compiled GZDoom with the tic rate bumped up to 60.

It works and everything including the sound is twice as fast.

>>4105570
Can someone explain something to me

People get mad at Sgt mark for "stealing things" from other modders, but isn't that the entire point of an open source, open modding game such as doom?

You build off of each others stuff.

>>4106975
That's correct, but you still gotta give credit where it's due

>>4106975
from what i've heard people got more pissy about the fact that he never asked to take those things, and never credited them in the first place. This is usually a faggy thing to do, but combine that with the fact that it became the most popular doom mods ever and he didnt include anyone else's hard work in the credits, and people got pretty damn pissed.
I'd be mad too if i made some nice sprites that got included by a super popular doom mod but all the credit solely went to the person who took them.

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>>4106193
Thanks man, not even google came up with that result. And this reminded me to check out the Mayhem 2048 mapset too.

I must say after playing two megawads of 1024 the small-ish size, while being a nifty design challenge, actually is abit too small for it to be altogether fun.

I haven't played the 2048 set just yet but it really seems to me to be the ideal for fun and design challenge. Its small enough to keep you from thinking that you've got to roam around but without making you feel cramped. Forces the player to deal with his issues rather than running from them.

There were alot of maps in the 1024 sets that really made me wish I could jump over some boxes and engage the other hallways where monsters were sniping from. It was abit of a tease.

I really, really like the death mechanic though for punishing players who jumped outside the 1024 barriers. Having the crushing voodoo doll dynamic. Its abit meta but pretty nifty.

Somebody should use something like this in lieu of a standard lava floor, with a safe zone sector that makes that crushing cieling go back up and stop crushing. (like a special radiation zone where you're being disintegrated slowly, and you have to get into a specific body-wash station to get it off of you)

>>4106975
>>4106990

Sgt Mark IV is completely insane, like the joker but without the gunpowder or gasoline.

He is the court jester of the doom community no doubt, a title which he has 100% earned (even his mod trolls the player, with an endless stream of errors yet still somehow works just right).

>>4106756
Get quakespasm, follow the instructions for getting music working. It's incredibly easy.

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i chuckled

>>4107036
>tripfag
also not true
you have 'male', 'female', and 'other'

>>4107036
There are actually Sgt Mk IV mods where you can play as an attack helicopter or tank.

https://im4.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-4-8a6786acc8.mp4

I present my masterpiece:
GZDoom with the tic rate turned up to 60!

I never played Doom 64 since emulating it back in the late 90s.

Every time I've wanted to re-play it more recently I get lost with all the remakes and EX versions and homages and reconstructions and unfinished projects and whatnot.

Can someone just tell me which version of D64 should I play ideally?

>>4107036
I think it actually had Other as an option like over 15 years ago.

>>4107040
>tripfag
Check your eyes mate.

>>4107048
That's pretty nice, but you should play it with Fast Monsters on.

>>4107048
Gib

>>4107048
Just like my BURL TUMD memes!

>>4107051
DOOM64 EX.

That's all you need.

>>4107048
Now slap a -fast on it.

>https://vargskelethor.me/winners/wads/
Which of these are worth giving a shot? Played a few at random and they felt very amateur and/or made in a short amount of time.

>>4107058
What do you mean by "gib"?
You want this accelerated version?

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>15 spm
>reload is slow as a motherfucker
>expects to score a 30

>>4107112
Yes, please.

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>>4105649

>>4107127
Ok, after I'm done with my school shit I'll figure out how to compile it on windows. Maybe if it works well enough I could try to adapt some of the game logic to suit the new frame rate. The game plays a lot smoother at 60hz.

>>4107048
i didn't know smooth doom went this fast

>>4107048
404 not found?

>>4107190
It was a temporary host. I'll try to find another place to upload it if people still want to see it.

>>4107190
https://my.mixtape.moe/fkccbm.mp4
GZDoom at 60hz my man.

>>4107212
heh.

Should've tried 70, as that would've been exactly double the original tic rate.

>>4107234
I should have made it 120 and played it on a 1080p TV.

>>4104395

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94EPSjQH38Y

>>4107036
of course sgt mark iv would use an unfunny edgelord joke

>>4107048
wait you can increase the tic rate???
Is there a way to put it at 120 or 144 and then cut everything's speed relatively so that it all works out?
I need to know

>>4107048
>https://im4.ezgif.com/tmp/ezgif-4-8a6786acc8.mp4
>404
can someone repost it

>>4106985
>>4106990
I thought the credits screen had some stuff.

>>4107279
It's not really that edgy.

>>4107305
see >>4107212

What an neat idea to try out neural networks or neural network evolution in Doom?

I'm trying to think of a project to keep me busy

>>4107262
What Is this, exactly?
Bots?

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>>4104680
Additionally does anyone know where I can find sprites for the SNG? Particularly, good quality ones from a model like pic related?

>>4107304
It's defined in doomdef.h in the sourcecode, it has no other critical dependancies that I can tell right off other than the game logic defined in the zscripts in wadsrc, all of which gets packed up into gzdoom.pk3 that you can extract and edit. There is no way to change the tic rate after the code has been compiled though.

>>4107379
I never said it wasn't, you sensitive person.

>>4107379
oh god, go back to leftypol already

>>4106975
>but isn't that the entire point of an open source, open modding game such as doom?

Mark is now being paid for his work. He is specifically aiming to make this a full-time job. He is stepping above modding and wanting to make games.
This is despite very little of his work actually being his. So, because of this, he is making money off of other people's work, often with very little credit or indication of who made what.

There's a lot to be said for an open-source modding community, people put out their resources to be used, yes. People do not put out their resources to have other people make money off it without their knowledge or consent.
There's a difference between "I'm okay with this being used in someone else's mod" and "I'm okay with this being used to make someone else money and I don't see a single dime".

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Cage is at it again
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=34856&start=135#p1008057

can't wait to see the sprites from Supplice stolen into literally everywhere

also
> 11 out of 29 new monsters
i have a feeling that supplice is gonna be THE SHIT

>>4107036
>But the gender variable can only accept two values.

There's "Male", "Female", and "Other".
It's had that for almost a fucking decade.

>>4107516
makes sense but I didn't realize he was getting paid.

>>4107523

He's set up a Patreon and is making a pretty monthly penny.
Not enough to make a living yet, but it's climbing.

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>>4107527
>>4107516
Patreon makes me wonder what the fuck I'm doing with my life, sometimes.
This other guy has been doing this for years and has barely anything to show for it, but as long as he shows off a different model every couple of months he can keep on cruising the autism train. He's living the dream.

I wish I had the fucking balls.

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>>4107527
>>4107537
>25,000 a month
>not enough to make a living yet

>>4107542
redamz is not sgt. mark

>>4107542

Anon...
Are you all right?

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>>4107516
>He is specifically aiming to make this a full-time job. He is stepping above modding and wanting to make games.

Prediction: His first original game will be a UE4 asset flip and will be released to little fanfare and much laughing at it's crapitude. He'll get butthurt at negative reviews on Steam and Gamejolt, blaming them on jealousy and certain other common targets of the perpetually butthurt, leading to much mockery from /vr/ and Doomworld. A popular Youtuber or streamer will play the game and laugh at it, leading to more BabyRage from Mark, and he'll ragequit games development. He will then go back to mooching off his lickspittle while the rest of the Doom modding community just goes on its day. A week later, Brutal Doom v21 is released.

>>4107521
Doesn't fit the narrative, so he ignored that.

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>>4107537
>tfw started drawing porn
>slowly, but steadily improving my drawing skills

Can't wait to rake in that sweet cash like the whore I am.

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Does anyone know that mod where you can play as a spygirl or something? Saw a few webms of it here over a year ago

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Any WADs with a similar atmosphere/aesthetic as Unloved?

>>4107553
ganbatte

>>4107556
Lydia was, unfortunately, never truly released or finished.

>>4107557

Strange Aeons comes to mind.

>>4107561

Was it ever more than a few sprites? I loved the feel and never thought it grew beyond player sprites.

>>4107318
>What an neat idea to try out neural networks or neural network evolution in Doom?
>I'm trying to think of a project to keep me busy
train a recurrent neural network to analyze a vanilla .LMP demo file and guess if it is TAS or not

>>4107520

v a p o r w a r e
> none of it is downloadable yet
> its been in the works for 5 years now

>>4107569
I guess when it comes to the project....


I T S A L L I N C A G E S H E A D

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>>4107520
>all those vibrant cyan and mint green colors
UNF

>>4107036
>Other gives you "it" pronouns
Not even an SJW but this kinda bothers me familia.

>>4107567
that's a bit more boring than what I had in mind

I wanted something with monsters running around

Like my previous project but less sucky

>>4107582
Maybe it's thought of as for robots and stuff

>>4107591
I would still call a humanoid robot "they" than "it."

What are some good cramped maps with enemies on every corner and where you have to manage ammo carefully?

>>4107594
but they is plural

>>4107602
It can sort of be used as a singular at times.

>>4107602
"But they is plural, nigga. Shiiieeeeeet."

>>4107601
I really need to release my deathmaze wad if people are looking for cramped spaces and emphasis on ammo management.

>>4107603
as someone whose language only has a unisex word for referring to people, english is dumb and complicated

>>4107603
but "it" is more accurate for singular.
you're being weird, dude.

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>>4107036
>that username up top

I know its a screencap, but of all places, I'd never expect a pyrocynical reference here on 4chan.

also that would actually be fucking hilarious, playing doom as an attack helicopter running around with a shotgun in hand

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HEY GUESS WHAT, ANOTHER WEEK'S PASSED. KNOCK KNOCK, HERE WE GO AGAIN. IT'S SATURDAY, SO YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO.

WHAT'VE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? POST YOUR SPRITES, YOUR MAPS, YOUR CODE.
POST THAT NEAT NEW FEATURE YOU WANTED TO SHOW OFF. MAKE A WEBM OF THAT RAD NEW WEAPON THAT'LL MAKE EVERYONE EXCITED.

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>>4107649
Whoops.

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>>4107649
I got distracted while finishing my jokemap for QUMP and started making a bathroom.

Making textures is fucking hard!

>>4107651
it's saturday 5 pm over here
i'm assuming he goes by american time zones

>>4107649
Meh all I did was take this rocket launcher thing that looks like its from Duke3d and make it a 2 shot launcher

It fires 1 above and 1 below in rapid succession, so you can sorta spread it out. The idea is being able to kill a bystander and then keep going to hit the actual group you're intending on. Kinda sorta makes the rockets a little bit like a railgun in that regard.

64 damage + 80-126 blast (and player takes half from explosions in my mod), but its got a radius of 150 that maximizes at the halfway point.

So the tradeoff for having more damage economy from rockets, is they're slightly more dangerous to use. I also made it shoot slower.

Screenshot was already posted, here
>>4104906

>>4107610
I guess people in the 14th century were weird, then.

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>>4107663
the rockets actually are one on top of the other, but I slung them so they fired in an arc (there's about a 4 tic wait between them)

>>4107649
A shottygun.
And palsma rifle.
Then a blue meatball.

No pictures tho.

>>4107667

They were!

Kinsie, if MetaDoom ever gets a level pack or wad, don't just make a secret level to make use of the Wolfenstein/Commadner Keen stuff, there should also be one based on the disco level from the PS1 port.
I also wondered if the level design could take inspiration from Doom The Way id Did

>>4107687
What about Club Wolf?

>>4107610
"It" refers to non-humans. A person is never an it, and it's dehumanizing to call one such. If you get cut off on the highway, you don't say "it cut me off," you say "they cut me off." The response to "it cut me off" is "what cut you off?" The response to "they cut me off" is "who cut you off?"

>>4107691
>Nazi dance club full of dead pre-W3D characters
Sweet.

plutonia is fucking tedious and Doom 2 maps were not that bad

>>4107696
There's lots of good maps in Doom 2, but also there's some kind of bad ones, along a fair few meh ones.

Plutonia is fun if you're set up for that kind of challenge, otherwise it'll be a slog.

5till L1 Complex is one of the most atmospheric wads ever made

post other atmospheric maps

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what was meant by this?

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>>4107649
inspired by lithium
making my own dynamic rain script

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>>4107752
If I didn't know better, I would assume that somebody doesn't want you to go there. I'm not sure though.

>>4106706
yeah, but they'd get all sweaty during summer

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>>4107553
>draw regularly
>have people seldomly butt in to compliment my art
>still haven't found a way into commissions because equal parts nervous/lazy
>realize just now all the money I could have gotten over the years with my work instead of posting it all online or saving it for myself
>don't have a tumblr so people gradually stop caring overtime

Modfags, help. How do I make a custom palette? I swear I did a bunch many years ago, but now I've completely forgotten how it was done.

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>>4107649
Just mapping. E3 is all themed maps. Can you guess the theme?

>>4107809
a bunker of some kind? Also that animation of the tip forming and spiraling down the arrow is dope

>>4107809
Something about this is giving me a Marathon feeling for some reason and I don't know why.

>>4107814
Thanks.
>>4107818
Probably the tight hallways.

>>4107809
hey re tick

>>4107808
This is how I do it:
>search Doom's palette on google
>Copy it an paste on paint
>resize it (ctrl + minus key) to it's minimum possible, so that each color is just one pixel. It should be 16x16 after you do this
>copy this and paste it on Photoshop (or GIMP or whatever)
>edit the colors to your heart's contents
>once you're done, save it as a RAW file
>import the RAW file into Slade
>rename it to PLAYPAL
>?????
>profit

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>>4107830
That's kinda the theme for the whole mod. A lost raven/id-like clone sorta thing.

>>4107838

I did that but instead of Slade I used XWE. It worked, but the colors were in different order as in the original palette. Could you link me to the palette you used as a base? Maybe I'm using a wrong one.