Are CRTs better than other TVs?

>>4065621
CRTs have horrible contrast among other faults.

Regarding your pic at least, CRTs are absolutely better for Parappa. Fucking thing's unplayable on anything else, even the recent PS4 release has messed up timing compared to the playing the original disc on a CRT. All retro-era rhythm games are the same in this regard.

for certain things like retro 2d pixel games they are essential.

certain effects like sonic the hedgehog's waterfalls made use of CRTs to produce dithering and more colors than would normally be possible. on a flat LCD, this effect is lost.

>>4065643
Dithering works just as well on any mainstream display. The effect is done with the video standard not the display.

>>4065621
whats with all these newfriends

>>4065643
Then why do you idiots bitch about RGB on CRTs not doing dithering, supposedly, as well.

>>4065680
All the kids are out of school.

just STFU you know what you like, therefore: You know the answer.

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$25, but I can't tell the model number from the listing.

Cop or not?

>doesn't even bother to show parappa on the hdtv in it's correct aspect ratio.
How has nobody mentioned this yet? opinion discarded.

>>4065671
The effect work no matter what, unless you're putting your face on the screen.

>>4065765
For $25 just take the plunge on it. Ideally though see that it actually works.

>>4065621
Definitive Answer:
If you're playing a Lightgun game: Yes, CRT.

Otherwise, it depends.

I personally prefer a CRT when I can. I find the colours are more vibrant and have a warmer feel. Theres also the issue of input lag, which every LCD seems to have if it's not getting a digital signal.

>>4065684
only like 5 people bitch about that, it's a meme
>>4065765
decent price for the size
>>4065621
Isn't Netflix support on the Wii ending soon? I thought I read it somewhere but now I can't find it. I use it on my CRT too, it's great for SD content that has no HD versions.

1st through 6th gen: use CRT
7th gen & up: use flatscreen.

are you filipino?

>>4065621

>>4066291
REAL definitive answer:
If what you're watching-playing-doing is in 4:3 then a quality CRT (midline trinitron and up) is the absolute best.

>>4066379
DVDs and Laserdiscs also obviously look best on an SD CRT and there is plenty of widescreen content on those formats.

Sorry, the definitive answer still eludes us.

>>4065621
It can display any resolution without distortions.

>>4066296

I hope not, I love Wii Netflix. They get rid of that and I'll have to hook up a Pi or something, perish the thought.

>>4066330
6th gen can play on a widescreen tv (except gamecube) so I would say either crt or widescreen

>>4066330
>1st through 6th gen: use CRT
6thgen is a lot better on modern displays. At the very least a 1080i CRT. Can't use the same TVs as 1st-5th gen.

>>4065628
Are you fucking kidding? Unlike the washed out grey blacks of a backlit LCD, the CRT is able to almost totally go black by turning the beam off. CRT projectors are still in use by some dedicated fans because of their staggeringly good contrast ratio.

>>4066546

Gamecube has a couple of widescreen games too, F-Zero GX most notably.

>>4065765
I got mine for free, same model. It weighs 265 lbs so bring some strong friends. Damn good t.v.

>>4065621

Who cares what you play on, just play games.

>>4066585
Facts, kiddo.

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>>4066638
>Here we see the shitpost in its most boiled-down, unadulterated form. Revel in its purity and the lack of any purpose whatsoever.

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>>4066729
Underage and hipster. Truly is summer.

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>>4066736
How did I know you were going to post that long-discredited and irrelevant ANSI checkerboard bullshit?

Because you're just that predictable, shitposter.

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>>4066750
>3rd world Euro
Same test any reputable TV reviewer uses or is based on.

>>4066760
Europe is the first world, shitposter.

Perhaps you should have paid more attention in history class instead of choking your chicken to chinese cartoons (which also originate from the first world btw)

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>>4066764
>Europe is the first world

>>4065621
if you like them better they are

CRTs are definitely better for retro games but when it comes to film you're way better off with a good HD flatscreen.

>>4066805
really depends on the video format. SD, interlaced video looks much better on a CRT, for obvious reasons.

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>>4066770
Do you even know what the terms First World, Second World and Third World mean?

>>4066813
There aren't many films that are made in digital SD though. Digital cameras were already HD before they were used for movies.

>>4066821
Anywhere that doesn't speak American.

>>4066826
28 Days Later was filmed with Canon XL1 digital SD cameras

http://indiediyfilm[doht]blogspot[doht]co[doht]uk/2009/11/28-days-later-all-shot-on-xl1.html

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>>4066837
So you're saying that the US is Fourth World?

Gotcha

>>4066585
Everyone's been talking about CRT vs LCD bit what about plasma? I have a plasma and the contrast is exceptional. Burn-in does happen but my TV is new enough that it's not that common and easily reversible.

>>4066843
Like I said. There aren't many.

>>4067134

Plasma's really good, yeah. Mine at least is good for retro content too as it softens the image quite well with less input lag than a traditional LCD.

>>4067134
The only plasmas I've seen with acceptable lag were the very last ones made and only a handful of them. >>4067201 is full of shit and 40ms + is normal for plasmas. I've never seen anyone provide evidence of better than 20ms for a plasma compared to a crt.

>>4066837

>>'speak american'

Hahaha, there's no such language

man the market for hobbyist crts is a goldmine waiting to be exploited. surprised it hasnt hit already, like with the revival of mechanical keyboards a few years back.

>>4067517
A bunch of sub $100 chink trash keyboards is the mark for a CRT goldmine waiting to happen?

>>4067208

Way to get triggered by nothing, I never even said it lacked input lag, just that it was more notable on the LCDs I've tried. I wasn't comparing anything to a CRT numbnuts, that goes without saying.

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>>4067134
>>4067201
>>4067208
Yeah (720p) Plasma rocks for SD content. Here's my Pioneer Kuro PDP-428XD running Megadrive over RGB SCART.

I've done a side-by-side with my BVM and 240p test suite to determine input lag. It's somewhere between 1 and 2 frames.

It cost me £80 all in and is in basically mint condition.

>>4065621
better /bɛtə/ adjective: A word used unqualified by underage to convince themselves their shit opinions mean anything.
Your post convinces me they're "better". kek.

When it comes to vewing anything 480i and under I think that older analog CRTs are great. But HD crts are in this awkward spot and hardly have any pros. Some people say that they're better because of input lag or classic games. But HD crts still have digital processing (2006 standards too, I bet a new LED has less delay than a HD crt), and when it comes to classic games? They don't produce scanlines, they have the same faults as new LEDs. They may technically have better contrast, but new LEDs aren't as bad as they used to be, most people wouldn't know the difference either. They also aren't as sharp as a LED and with the added weight, it makes it very hard to justify using one. HD carts don't satisfy classic gamers or people looking to consume modern content.

I love CRTs, but I think this guy is just clinging to the tech. HD consumer crts fuckin suck for the most part. A new LED isn't even that much money and it would be way more convenient and in most cases would look better in every way besides contrast.

>>4065628
Dude, oled's are literally calibrated using high end crt's because of their great color reproduction and contrast. The screen is black anywhere the guns don't shoot the screen.

>>4067580
>oled's are literally calibrated using high end crt's
No, dumbass.

IDK about all this hd crt stuff, but for low res progressive images, they are the best. The way it slightly softens the lines, but stays sharp (if you use a good connection), combined with the great color and contrast, it just looks great on these old games. If your crt doesn't wow you with color, if is either calibrated wrong, or just old, and needs to be replaced. Plus no lag and no scaling are just icing on the cake.

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>>4067584
If only Sony could get it as good as a bvm.

>>4067586
This pic is literlly at a showcase where Sony is saying "Look, we almost are as good as a crt when it comes to color, and contrast."

>>4067586
That isn't an assembly line or development room you dumbass.

>>4067587
>almost are as good as a crt
You mean that modern BVM outpermfs that older CRT tech in all areas.

Stop comparing consumer grade tech to professional grade stuff. That crappy HD crt you found on the side of the road is definitely not the same as a BVM that can output the same resolution.

>>4067586
Not sure what you're saying here, but aren't both of those BVMs? The new OLED bvms are absolutely incredible and their prices definitely show it. A regular ass consumer grade TV is not the same as a BVM

>>4067586
but htose are sony bvms?

Im confused

>>4067624
>The new OLED bvms are absolutely incredible
I wonder if few years from now these will become as desirable for 7th/8th gen gaming as CRT PVMs are desirable for retro now.

>>4067948
Doubtful.

If nothing else the blue OLEDs will be utterly fucked given the typical duty cycle of a broadcast display.

>>4067134
Plasmas are good, they have low input delay like a crt too.

>>4066736
>>4066760
That is an entirely different kind of "contrast" you illiterate shitbird.

>>4068085
>input delay
That depends almost entirely on the particular chassis employed and its image processing subsystems.

The panels themselves have essentially instant pixel response and some degree of phosphor decay though, better replicating the motion quality of cathode ray tubes.

>>4065765
My back hurts just looking at it.

>>4068812
Learn to lift you beta cuck.

>>4068814

Lol, asserting your alphaness through being able to lift a crt tv. I'm gonna absolutely tear the whole off your wife later, and yes, I'll let you watch the video later

>>4067601
Retard can't even get his inaccurate assertion across in a coherent manner.

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>>4065621
That particular crt in the vid is a KV-34XBR960, Sony's highest end consumer hd crt, and yes it is better than many flatscreens. Until about 10 years ago it was considered the industry standard for tv picture quality, contemporary reviews gushed over it and thanks to its widescreen form factor and HDMI support it's still an ideal display for modern HD games and video.