>crt shaders can't look goo-

>walk a few feet away from monitor
>still can see the scanlines

Nah, it's still a shitty shader and doesn't, will never look like a real CRT.

>>4063904
who says the ideal is to look like a CRT? its simply another way of hiding the horrible scaling artifacts on an LCD.

>>4063904
not saying its as good as a CRT, but it is much much better (especially in motion) than a flat LCD

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>>4063903
that looks like shit my dude

>>4063910
>emulate the effects of CRT
>who says we're trying to make it look like a CRT?
Is this retardation?

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>>4063904
>anon getting up and walking a few feet to make sure this is the real deal

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>>4063910
>who says the ideal is to look like a CRT?

>>4063953
The developers.
t. John Romano's half brother once over

>>4063903
Yeah, you don't even need to finish the sentence kiddo. Everyone knows it's true.

>>4063943
>>4063953
just because you call something a CRT shader doesn't mean it 100% replicates the effects of a CRT, its just pretending to look like one. for that you need a real CRT. i rather call them "make retro games look less shitty" shaders.

>>4063991
developers are idiots and they have no say in this. i decide what looks good to me.

>>4063903
How to set it like this on my RetroArch?

>>4063910
That looks WAY worse than just raw pixels on an LCD though.

>>4063903
What shader is this, anon?

>>4064417
I was never favoring one method over another, I simply suggested it as on option. But choosing to the scaling artifacts doesn't mean they're not there, that's why i use a CRT instead of an LCD or shader.

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>>4064491
>>4064491
You referring to the LCD as horrible was a bit of a give away. To each their own though, I agree. I hate CRTs though. So things trying to look like them all took bad as well.

CRT shaders are the fucking stupidest thing ever invented and they look ugly as shit, the reason there are scanline is because there is less light passing between the rows of pixels not because there are black fucking ugly ass bars laid over top the image

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>>4064519
What do you see?

>>4064529
two jews about to bump noses

>>4064529
A shitty .png

>>4064529
A delicious veiny penis.

>>4064501
>Shitty aftermarket CRT
>i hate CRTS!

geez, i wonder why

>>4064529
It's a lamp.

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>>4064417
>That looks WAY worse than just raw pixels on an LCD though.
There you go, only the raw pixel data copied directly from emulated vRAM to your framebuffer.

The purest way to emulate, naturally.

>>4064529
A cult of personality.

>>4064546
That's hardly the only CRT I've seen in my life. It just happens to be the one I have now. I think they all look terrible though which is why I haven't bothered to get a better one. Once Saturn emulation is good enough I'll throw it to the curb and be done with those things forever.

>>4064427
it's crt-royale-bloom with the border turned off

looks extremely good in motion for sonic games and gets the water dithering almost perfectly

>>4064529
there are four lights

>>4063904
>>walk a few feet away from monitor
>>still can see the scanlines

So real CRTs don't have scanlines?

lol

>>4064519

Most retarded post on /vr/

Real CRTs are all going to stop working one day. CRT simulation shaders are important for preserving the nuances of these displays on high resolution modern displays.

>>4063991
[citation needed]

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>>4063903

>Doing anything with visuals at all

What's the point? I don't understand this autism, the games look pretty much exactly the same no matter what minor visual effects you tweak them with. Even if you had something that made the games look significantly higher quality, what would that even matter? Visuals are there to let you know where your character is and where enemies and obstacles are so you can play the game. It's not like your eyes are going to feel good because you used greater visual quality. If you want to feel good take drugs.

>>4065083
They are not visible to the naked eye, yes.

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>>4065068

>>4064546
I heard mednafen emulates Saturn pretty well.

>>4065248
not according to my memes

>>4065117
>It's not like your eyes are going to feel good because you used greater visual quality. If you want to feel good take drugs.

*slightly amused disdainful anime reaction face*

>>4063921

Who presses their eyes this close to the screen in the first place?

>>4064697
kek

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>>4065339
me

>>4063903
give me a call when you can emulate 0ms input delay. then we'll talk.

>>4065035
What emulator is this for and how do I apply it?

>>4065613
its the retroarch genesis emulator

the shader is included in retroarch's normal shader libraries, you just need to remove the border manually.

>>4064339
I'm pretty sure you're missing the point of those posts, anon.

>>4064529
Gay jews

>>4065472
original console itself has ~4frames of input lag on a CRT

Measurements were made by the same faggot who did emulator lag research.

Some emulators can make it to 3.6 frames average lag.

That's lower than original hardware.

>>4066614
that research is a joke.

>>4064529
a Jigglypuff seen from above

>>4066620
I know, but it shows that response times are actually compareable if you set up your emulators right.

Funny how people go about emu lag wjile original hardware also had it.

>>4066625
that is software lag. it is compensated for when the display and hardware experience 0ms between each other.

>>4066667
>it is compensated for when the display and hardware experience 0ms between each other

not it is not.

Delay between pressing button and character reacting on original hardware would still be the same, because of said hardware, not because of hardware->CRT delay. It can not be compensated.

>>4066687
have you played beatmania before? get back to me after you play that game at hyper 7+ with a minimum rating of B on songs of 150BPM+ on both a CRT and LCD.

>>4064676
>PNG
>raw pixel data
>still has JPEG artifacts

how?

>>4065089
It's already been established that scanline shaders are actually "make retro games look less shitty" shaders and have nothing to do with emulating the look of a CRT.

Try to keep up sweetie ;)

>>4066614
>an emubaby made us some numbers to "prove" real hardware had more "input lag"
Top kek kid