Why were Playstation discs black?

>>3994721
Big Black Discs

From what I understand, as a copy protection measure. The PSX could read them just fine, but the optics of many computer drives at the time did not like the altered reflectivity properties *at all*.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+were+playstation+discs+black

>>3994749
>lol I told them to google it, I'm so sassy

>>3994721
Because they looked cool. That's it.

>>3994736
Absolutely wrong.

>>3994736
woah I didn't know game historian posted here

>>3994761

>trollolololo!

>>3994767
>>3994774
>>3994761

Go back to /v/ if you want to samefag, asshole.

>>3994721
So you knew they were playstation games bro

>>3994721
Originally they were silver, but they've tarnished over the years.

>>3994721
PORTABLE NUT

>>3994736
It has nothing to do with the color of the disc. PlayStation discs have corrupted sectors burned into them that the PS1 would check for. If they weren't present, no boot.

>>3994789

Oh, I was aware they also used shit like corrupted sectors (then there's the infamous "libcrypt" which does bullshit to the subchannel data in blatant violation of the Red Book Standard), but I thought I recalled Sony thinking the black discs were a good anti-counterfeiting strategy and that it would mess with cheap optics in disc drives as well.

I'm pretty sure "the underside of the disc is BLAAAACK!!!" is rather worthless as branding strategies go. As an extremely primitive form of pressed-disc validation it might be somewhat more successful.

>>3994728
Underrated

Because Sony make music CD and Game CD on the same factory.

CDR have many color back screen in the market.
but we not have any color back screen on DVDR.

>>3994764
This. This is the only reason. They looked *x-treme*, and that was all.

They didn't add any copy protection, or any change in the reflective characteristics.

>>3994789
That was done only in later games, once modchips were common. Originally the protection is just wobble on the pit groove, which is put there in factory and cannot be duplicated by CD burners - but the result can be mimicked by modchips. I think it also had some ATIP protection but I don't remember anymore (and that could be duplicated; wobble could not).

>>3994810

Really?

>>3994761
Someone post that picture of mid-90's magazines and forum posts that say PSX.

>>3994728
BBCD

>>3994819
Interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks.

>>3994829
Kek

>>3994784

DISC ROT IS REAL

>>3994721
Branding

>>3994721
Because they mattered ok.

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>>3994761
>>3994827
Wish granted.
I can also add that one of my dad's friends modded his PSX and burned games for out family before the PS2 was even announced. He always wrote PSX on the front of the discs.

>>3994981

All of this is photoshopped.

>>3994827
I've never heard anyone irl call the PlayStation a psx. I hated reading it in magazines in the 90s and you purist fags acting like that was commonplace to refer to it as such outside of EGM either had no friends or you take gaming "journalism" way too seriously.

>>3994990

spoken it was never abbreviated in the first place.
Noone said "Pee ess" neither "Pee ess akkkes". it was simply the "Play Station"

>>3995023
So what does the x even stand for? Do you normally use an x as shorthand for "station"?

>>3994990
> I hated reading it in magazines in the 90s and you purist fags acting like that was commonplace to refer to it as such outside of EGM either had no friends or you take gaming "journalism" way too seriously.

You realize that just two posts above you had an image showing the major developers and publishers also referring to it as PSX, including an in game screenshot of it, right?

>>3994721
It was just marketing.

>>3995032
xtreme

>>3995127
>i was proven wrong but it doesn't count because you proved me wrong TOO HARD

>>3995032
It stands for "the 90s".

And Station was the drummer in the Wild Stallyons.

>>3994721
Just because, there is no real reason.

>>3994736
False.

Also never had a single drive that didn't "like them", oldest drives I used where from 1992 and it works just fine.

>>3994761
>Strike two. It's called the PlayStation.
All that effort into a condescending post and then you fuck it up that hard. You poor thing... Gold star for an unironic use of kiddo though, kiddo.

>>3995127
"People never said PSX" is a common troll around here, before that image retards like >>3994761 would derail threads completely with it. His effort was well spent.

>>3994990
>I hated reading it in magazines in the 90s and you purist fags acting like that was commonplace to refer to it as such outside of EGM either had no friends or you take gaming "journalism" way too seriously.

Your tears are delicious

>>3994721

Sony thought it made their discs look cool. Yup, that's it.

There were some CD-R blanks sold with black bottoms as well. Some stupid people even though you could only use those if you wanted to pirate PSX games. Because people are dumb.

BTW, if you are an autist who flips out when they see PSX, I would like you to know that it's one of the reasons I insist on using it. Because every time you make a /vr/ Rainman cry, an angel gets its wings.

>>3995182
> Station was the drummer in the Wild Stallyons.

I think he/they only did session work. Because the commute from Mars is a bitch.

>>3995298
>I think he/they only did session work. Because the commute from Mars is a bitch.

He was clearly there in one of their early live shows, with the robot Bill & Ted and the Reaper.

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>>3995296
>Because every time you make a /vr/ Rainman cry, an angel gets its wings.

couldn't have said it better myself

>>3994728
Big Black Coasters

>3994721
UV Light protection so the discs last longer.

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>>3995306
>Everyone's having a seizure
>Meanwhile Liu Kang and Baraka are having a dance battle.

>>3995304
>He was clearly there in one of their early live shows

Exceptional gig, but a one time thing, sadly. Still, God gave rock n' roll to us, so we must use it for good.

>>3995318
Bitch Kung Lao is the best dancer there

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>tfw can play CDDA audio on a PS1 disc with an old CD player I have manufactured in 1988

Feels good man. Even CD's made today work on it. Hopefully it doesn't crap out on me one day.

>>3995390
>Even CD's made today work on it.

Why wouldn't they? redbook CD is redbook CD.

Why were some PlayStation 2 discs purple?

Kek, PSX butthurt.
No, we called in PSX in the late 90's also.
In retrospect I do prefer saying just PS/PlayStation, but it will always be PSX, way before PSX the console existed.

>>3994721
A E S T H E T I C S

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>>3994749
If we're just going to google every question asked, then why have a message chat board at all? You don't think he knows he could google the answer? He wants to ask the 4chan community. Maybe you should leave, I don't think you'd like it here.

>>3995539
You are literary cancer of image boards, together with OP.

>>3995541
Riiiight. It's me who's the cancer, not you and your female bitchiness. Man up sweetie.

>>3995405
Because those were CDs

>>3995539
Asking questions that can be easily answered by google is pointless. This place is here for actual conversation. There's a difference.

>>3995390
This >>3995394
I never found a CD player that didn't play the audio on some PSX disks.

>>3995197
I salute the anon who saved /vr/

>>3995562
I'm not even the first anon you replied too.
Suck a cock and cry more.

>>3995779
As should we all.

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>>3994981

>>3995943
What has this to do with anything? See >>3995408

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>>3995963
>>3994981

>>3995943
Are you trying to pretend he's saying that Playstation wasn't also used? Is this how desperate you are to keep your weak trolling going?

>>3995982
>RED LINES
>PSX
lol I think we broke him, the poor baby.

>>3995984
I sometimes think this autism is legit

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>>3995982
console calls itself PS-X on a firmware level.

>>3995943
I don't see SCEA written anywhere there, so that must be the Sony HQ, not the SCEA one.

>>3995943
>>3995982

Now, this is just sad.

>>3995992
It's hard to tell here sometimes what's bait and what's legitimate retardation.

>>3995127
I consider posts like the one you're replying to a trash service around here for commonly nitpicked bullshit.

your reply also reeks of showed-up brodude, so if you're not buttposting, you're recommending perpetuating misinformation, equally retarded.

>>3995648
Ya hear that everyone? Asking questions that could be answered by google is pointless. So everytime you see a new thread ask yourself "Could this be easily answered by google?" And then be sure to rage into the comments and spread your "google it" cancer like you're totally cool and unique, making sure to stifle all discussion about the topic and ensuring no further insight is gained. Because this faggot here says it, and it must be true right?

>>3996002
b-but muh hipster naming

>>3996020
It just brings down the quality of the board when people use a imageboard as their personal search engine.

>>3996020
>Putting words in my mouth
I just want more interesting discussions and don't think asking stupid questions that already have objective answers usually lead to them.

>>3995779
A true hero, I have >>3994981 saved to help deal with the trolls when they pop up

>>3996045
There's a new thread that says "What's the best NES emulator?" right now. That sounds easily searchable on Google. But I don't know, it's your call. That's a tough one. Are you gonna go spoutin' off in the comments about "google" and "cancer" or not? I just thought you should know.

>>3996081
But there is no definitive answer for "what's the best NES emulator" they all have their ups and downs and it's a real topic for discussion, while "why where psx discs black" has a definitive answer and nobody can argue about that.

Are you literary underage? Most kids I know have a more open mind and understanding of things then you seem to do.

>>3996081

And had you read that thread, you would see that there is no real consensus. So it's a valid topic of debate. There's nothing "settled" about the NES emulator question; no "right" answer.

Which is not to say that there aren't wrong answers. There are ALWAYS wrong answers.

>>3996081
No, I just didn't click on it. I don't care enough to go out of my way to shitpost about this stuff, just replying to this guy >>3995539 and giving my two cents. There's plenty of reason for a chat board besides asking dumb easily researched questions.

>>3994981
Completely BTFO
Good job anon!

>>3994981
Honestly one of the most pathetic images I've seen on the entirety of 4chinz. A monumental cheevo.

>>3994782
>OOOOOH NOES I GOT BTFO WAT EVER SHALL I DOOOOO
>I KNOW I WILL ACCUSE OF SAMEGUY AND /V/ THAT WILL SURELY SAVE FACE

WRONG! YOU GOT TOOOOOOOOOOOOLD SON DEAL WITH IT


SERVED BITCH WHO NEXT?!

>>3995127
I'm the anon who added the developers/l and publishers to that image. Took 10 minutes max given how absurdly prolific the term PSX was at the time. And the passive aggressive rage by people like you and >>3996543 made it all worth it.

>>3994981
You realize most of the people who claim no one ever called it PSX just do it to get a rise out of autists like whoever made that image right? You're just giving them what they want by posting that. It's also all shopped lies anyway.

>>3996745
>It's also all shopped lies anyway.

Low rent troll.

>>3994721
So that people couldn't photocopy the games

>>3995943
>>3995982
dude this is perfect. I don't care how few people get the joke, I think it shows how petty they re more than anything. I love this.

>>3995184

>False.
>
>Also never had a single drive that didn't "like them", oldest drives I used where from 1992 and it works just fine.

Then obviously their thinking it would deter piracy in general was wrong (or perhaps the story was bullshit all along?).

>>3996732

Are you high, son?

>>3996032

>It just brings down the quality of the board when people use a imageboard as their personal search engine.

>brings down the quality of the board

>quality of the board

>the board

>quality

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I always just heard it called Playstation. The same way no one said SNES, everyone called it the Super Nintendo. But magazines definitely called it the PSX, probably because abbreviating it as the PS just looked weird and called 'post script' to mind. And people definitely used it when writing on message boards too. The N64 was the first console I ever heard anyone abbreviate in normal speech.

>>3997192
Behold, the only reasonable and intelligent person in this thread. I bow to thee.

>>3995127
You can only fight butthurt with butthurt, anon.

>>3997212
made up logic. psx fags started this. Everyone calls it the playstation. that overzealous research is a sign of insecurity. If I wanted to call it the "Genesis 2", do I really have to justify it to anyone? But it gets worse when I try hmm, for example, to force everyone else to call it the "genesis 2", that's some social-retardation level shit.

>>3997217

Except no one is forcing anyone to use PSX. Of course PlayStation is acceptable, if you feel like typing that every time.

But claiming PSX is NOT a common abbreviation in common usage since the console's debut is bullshit. Always has been bullshit. Always will be bullshit. And bullshit should ALWAYS be called out, on general principle.

>>3997232
wow wow cool your tits, you see this is why you're the problem. It is bullshit.

>>3995324
Shang Tsungs arm wave back there is pretty good too

>>3994802
Nope. When you look at a black disk you immeadiatley think playstation. If you don't think playstation you wonder "Whats that for and why is it black?" It's great branding.

>>3994784
I tried to tell people this before but they all act like I'm crazy. Fucking /vr/ full of kids who weren't even born yet when the PSX was relevant.

>>3994736
I used to say that was wrong but recently i burned some data on black CD-Rs for my old iMac G3 (2001) and the reader were unable do read them. No problem with regular "shining" CD-R tho.

So this is asolutely not for a copy protection standpoint but I think it might have been a pro in Sony's brainstormings.

>>3996002
Look for the unicode value

>>3994721
>Regarding the protection I recently dreamt about recreating the security wobble sector on a sticky foil with my cheap laser engraving machine and a lightscribe burner.

> Best dream ever

>>3995127
>calling someone a loser
>on 4chan
anon do you know where you are

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>>3997241
He looks like he's doing the 'suck it' gesture

>>3997767
4chan is normalfag central now

>>3997738

iMac G3 used a "SuperDrive", which was finicky on reading CD-R brands, and really didn't care for odd-colored dyes. So it was probably the fact that it was an odd colored CD-R; I'll bet you still could have played tunes off of a pressed PSX disc.

>>3998336
Nice comment. I'll try it out right now and let you know, for science!

>>3997738
>>3998336
Never had a problem though, I used to use black CDs for burning all the time because some of them where more durable.

Also never had problems reading PSX discs for emulators straight from the computer. I think the Mac "SuperDrives" where just crap, I own several G4's and they always came with shitty drives.

>>3998692
You were right the PSX CD was detected and the iMac played the tracks. Still it didn't detect my black CD-R. Comparing them side to side the CD-R is more red (still dark tho) than the PSX one which is more black (with a feint red reflection)

>>3998716
They're not the best quality you're right, but regarding the iMac G3's (slotins drive anyway) they were easily serviceable (lithium grease and new belt)

>>3994986
>>3995943
>>3995982
>>3996543
>>3996745
epic epic for the win