Pc

>>3951832
you bought it you ding dong
just try and see

>>3951837
It's not here yet. I'm just so god damn curious. I had a 486 back in the day that could play Quake "flawlessly" but then I hear that some people's 486s struggle with even Duke.

>>3951832
Yes.

>>3951832
both doom and duke3d is going to choke that cpu

>>3951845
50mhz is on like the bottom end of 486 machines

it will probably run doom 300x200 at like 20fps

duke nukem: hell no

LOL seems like you've wasted your money on a retro paper weight.

>>3951928
hey man be fair wolf3d is p.good

>>3951832
With that Trident card you'd be lucky to play Doom at 12fps.

You got fucked super hard. You can find this shit at the dump for free. "Retro PCs" are the biggest scam on all of eBay.

>>3951915
I can buy a better 486 plus a better video card for $20 on ebay so that's no worries. Just wanted to know what to expect.

>>3951915
I had a 486sx 25 and later a dx4 100 back in the day.

A dx50 was slap bang in the midrange.

>>3951832
You do realize that you can look up the system requirements for those games you fucking subhuman.

I had a 486-33 and could only play Doom smoothly in a small window
Then I got a Pentium 66 and Doom was super smooth full screen

>>3951832
16MB? That seems kinda high for a Trident card? I just don't get why you'd want that processor? I mean it's not a wing commander machine so why wouldn't you at least get a P55C MMX Pentium 233?

>>3951832
arent trident a mintgum company?

>>3952425
Yes they also branched out into making video cards in the 90s because everyone else was doing it

>>3951832
>Cpu:Cyrix 486 DX2 50MHz

Ouch, you got memed hard my man.

Should of got a Pentium

OP must be underage for buying such a pile of trash.

>>3951938
Wolf3d is overrated as hell. Doom is excellent though, as is Duke 3D

>>3951832
Doom? Yes, just barely. Duke 3D? No.

>>3951832

I have a 486 DX2/33 that plays Doom at around 20fps in low detail mode. 50mhz will be fine.

>>3951832

Don't forget Rise of the Triad. That will play smoothly even on a (high end) 386. On a 486/50 it should be blazing fast. Even if you can't run Duke, being able to run ROTT is pretty great.

>>3951832
Is this a troll post? It must be, because you've gone out of your way to describe something so mediocre. It'll run anything that would run on a 486 33mhz with only a bit of struggle. If you want to do 486 class gaming you need to get an intel dx4, if the board will support it, an actual sound blaster would be better and a graphics card with vram and an s3 chip.

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>>3951832
It will be fine

pic is dell xps P100

>>3951938
Wolf3D was my first FPS, that shit was magical and the sounds and visuals set my nostalgia off hard and it'll always hold a special place for me. But let's not be fucking dicks here, the level design is atrocious and amateur as fuck, along with the poor level design is the wall humping mechanic for no reason. The weapons mechanica are terrible, the shooting and evading mechanics are rudimentary RNG with shit feedback. It's not a good game and the only reason it's worth mentioning today was because it was the first real time action based FPS. It's a historicsl game, not a good game.

>>3951832
For Duke3D you really want something in the PII era like a 266/300Mhz and have VESA/VBE support which you can also dick around with univbe.

>>3953158
>wall humping
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>3953170
AMD DX4 120Mhz with a Tseng 2MB VLB video card and sufficient RAM will run Duke3D in dos just fine.

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>>3951845
>Quake on a 486
By flawlessly you, of course, mean 7fps in a tiny window, maybe with r_drawflat enabled.

And yes, you can play Doom and Duke3D may run semi okay at 320x200 resolution (don't even try changing it) You really want a Pentium for decent performance though, even at minimum resolution.

>>3951832
>tfw no case with modern standards with this aesthetic

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Even with a DX4 100mhz and 20mb of ram, I was running Duke Nukem 3D in 320*200, with graphics details set to "low". Pic related.

It may work like that on yours, but may lag still.

>>3953525
>tfw hipster baby
>tfw lel

Probably should have got a Pentium or Pentium II.Duke doesn't run too well on a 486 and you got a pretty low end processor and accelerator.

>>3954419
I wanted a 486 because I had one as a kid. I
don't care about running the games all that well, just being able to use windows 95 and play doom and duke at some settings is all I'm after right now. Anyways, I put in an order for a dx4 100mhz that I'll swap out, should work since it's a socket 3 board.

>>3954527
i had The dx 4 100 in 1995, rran doom and duke 3d fine.Its nice pc for playing old gamesand the turbo button iis good for older games

Did Doom and Duke3d even take advantage of a GPU? I don't even remember needing one until Half Life came out

>>3951832
It'll probably play Doom OK, but Duke3d? Not that well. It'll run, but don't expect playable framerates.

>>3953456
you cant even change the resolution in dos doom can you?

>>3956683
you can make the screen all tiny tho

>>3953527
your setup must of been horribly optimized or there is something else bottlenecking you cause it shouldn't run that bad. Did you even update your config.sys?

>>3953158
> That door sound
> that "halt guard" alert as the browncoats notice you
> "ayeeee" sound as you pop them with 3-5 rounds.
> also that scratchy but high pitched pistol sound
> all the while that downtempo de-de-de-da-dum music

did you hear it?

>>3956794
I was 8-10 years old man. Maybe it could have run better, at least in 320*200 with details set to high at least, but I can't remember if I tried.

>>3951832
It will play Doom okay, but Doom2 will lag slightly. You'll need to make a dos boot disk with all the relevant (in proper order) autoexec and config.sys loading. If you rely on win95 you'll get fucked midi sound and wont get the proper retro experience with the OPL (since bill gates didnt care and said "meh, it works").

Ram is fine and so is video but Processor is what these games feed on. It will not play Duke3d worth a damn.

By 486 you must have had a better one than you remember, maybe 100mhz, or a 586.

I had a 586 (at100mhz) for a long time, it kinda underperformed compared to a pentium but it was so much cheaper, and the performance was solid compared to a 486 of any variety.

After I got in college I bought an AMD T-Bird 900mhz so I just jumped straight out of that in one huge leap. Started playing Q2 and Fallout on that one. That was back in 2001, and I think it had 128mb ram.


>>3955664
no, the first game that ever came out I believe which took advantage of gpu was Quake 1

> and it had to be a specific kind to get the proper texture filtering, a voodoo card I think, it was high end back then, like $250.
> Drivers for things like this were rather experimental, it was something you was buying pretty much just to play quake.

This is how iD software took the computer industry by the balls and dictated the way GPUs would be developed

> thou shalt have this kind of texture filtering, and this is how it will be implemented
> yes master

>>3956828
no that was a 3d accelerator card, computers had GPUs in them before that a CGA or VGA or you SVGA VESA cards were still video cards bruh

>>3956898
Not all graphic cards have a GPU. CGA, EGA, VGA and SVGA cards usually didn't have a GPU before 3D acceleration. They had graphic chipsets, but no GPU.
>>3956828
>586
Those are called Pentium.

>>3956904
I'm pretty sure by 586 he means AMD.

>>3957043
Cyrix made a "5x86" for 486 sockets. It was more like a 486 DX5 than a pentium.

>>3956683

could always run it with a source port in dos.

>>3956828
>proper retro experience.

You trendy little cunt. Go die in a fire.

>>3952690
>CYRIX
>WEW LAD

OP you bought such a shit system. Just buy any Windows XP machine from the early 2000's and you can play any retro vidya you want at the highest quality settings.

>>3956683
No, I was referring to Duke when talking about resolutions.

>>3957475
>XP
Yeah nah. It has shite compatibility for DOS games. Win 98 is as high as you ever want to go for 90's games, Windows or DOS.

>>3957517
You can still run DOS in native mode. Just create a DOS boot disk and you are good to go.

>>3951832
I really hope you didn't pay more than 20$ for that piece of shit. a 50 MHz 486 DX2 can barely run doom at a good speed, let alone Duke 3D.

I hope you enjoy Might and Magic IV/V, because that's the closest your gonna get to FPS running on that machine.

>>3957635
Shh. That's a secret only to be shared with people born before 2000.

>>3951832
>Will it play Duke3d and Doom?
>Cyrix 486 DX2 50MHz

You can start the game, but anything else...
486 with 100MHz is the absolute minimum to play these games in decent res and screen size.
Put a 133MHz AMD 486 in it or get a Pentium based PC.

>>3956683
Dos Doom has low quality mode which is 160x200.

Anyway that does not matter since both Doom and Duke3D run at 35-40 fps on 486 DX2 (I know for sure 'cause I had one). Just don't run them from Windows - this will give you extra RAM and 3-5 FPS which is noticable.

Duke will probably run at 25-30 at 640x480 - I tmember playing it at that res and having fun so it must be about 25-30 frames

Blood and Quake will go at ~7-10 fps tops.

Should've bought Pentium 166 Mhz - that runs just about everything pre -'98 at decent speeds.

>>3957991
Wait. I'm wrong. Thouhgt it was 486 with 100 Mhz, but it's cyrix with 50 Mhz.

You dun goofed dude.

I'm going to hijack this for a bit, what's a good video card for DOS games? I'm looking for something that has decent image quality and preferably enough framebuffer to run Windows at 1024x768, but most importantly doesn't have that annoying tearing issue with some 2D games like the Matrox it currently has installed.

>>3952420
The seller surely advertised 16MB instead of 16Mbits (2MB)

>>3958009
ATi Mach64, S3 Virge and the likes.

>486 DX2 50MHz
>16MB Graphics Card

Bizarre combination.

>>3957664
>that piece of shit

Cruel words man, that's like saying an NES is a piece of shit because it can't run Skyrim.
a 486 was never designed for those things, it would be perfect for the adventure games kinda fan but not for FPS players.

Don't call it a piece of shit because OP is trying to make it run something it was never designed for.

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Get yourself a nice dos frontend

>>3958676
This is stupid.

Use boot menus in config.sys and have optimised startups. I have one for Windows 3.1, one for mouse/ipx, one for mouse/cdrom and one for max conventional ram.

>>3958323
s3 virge lol
>>3958009
Get anything with s3 and vram. For VLB the number9 cards were great. If you have PCI pick up a voodoo banshee. You can run 3dfx supporting dos and win games.

>>3958913
How does IPX over internet work on real DOS systems? Trying to dig out info hiding beneath the massive pile of DOSBox tutorials is just annoyingly difficult.

I get that it's neat to tinker with retro PCs but if you wanna play Doom and Duke3D why wouldn't you play them on a modern PC? You can play them on their highest settings with even the cheapest prebuilts.

>>3959259

If you're talking about souceports, EDuke is shit.

>>3959267
I picked up the Megaton Edition on Steam and it runs just fine. It sucks that Gearbox took it down.

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"retro gaming pc"

>>3959267
Why?

>>3959281

kek, see that shit on vogons all the time "so my p3 1ghz retro pc is having trouble running monkey island wut do?

yeah no.. that's not a retro pc, just because its your dad's first pc does not make it retro.

>>3959731
all those parts listed in the ad are from 1999 or before

>>3958381
The NES is an exact standard way to play a game. With computers there are no standards anyway, which is why nobody cares about collecting old computers except the same type of fags who think collecting antique furniture is spiffing.

>>3959731
monkey island has no trouble running on my dos system thats even newer than that.

>>3959816
Do bandwagon babies really believe this?

>>3959848

Try running the original EGA version, very speed sensitive game.

>>3951894
>both doom and duke3d is going to choke that cpu

Doom... I don't think so, duke absolutely.

OP as soon as it arrives open it and look for the motherboard specs, you want a better cpu on that.

>>3959281
I've got scrap around the house to build a pos like that, maybe I should do it and scalp some moron on ebay.

Does anyone want a AMD athlon at 700mhz?, Ideal for running space quests and dooms and dukenukems, even warcraft 2!!, for the low low price of 200$ plus shipping. I haven't seen it running since the Clinton administration so no refunds!!.

PS. Use dosbox, you are not losing any "retro feeling" and the "emulation" is perfect for the things than are worth a damn...

>>3953456
>By flawlessly you, of course, mean 7fps in a tiny window, maybe with r_drawflat enabled.
THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE PLAYED™

>>3951832
>I bought this on ebay.
That's not how this fucking works, how much did you pay goofball?

you're supposed to go and pick these up from people who don't want them anymore. $30 is the highest I'd pay for something like this. Shit I got 2 old PCs for $15 last year, and I'm done hunting now that I got what I want

>>3951832
Nope, Doom with low quality, maybe it will be allright but Duke3D for sure will lag.

>>3951845
Quake will no way run on a 486, even a 100MHz DX4 is pushing it with unplayable framerate.

>>3957991
Don't lie or spill out shit if you don't know what you are talking about, Doom will still choke on a DX2 at 50MHz and Duke3D will be nowhere enjoyable except a slideshow.

>>3956828
>It will play Doom okay, but Doom2 will lag slightly.
There's no in engine difference between Doom and Doom 2.
Stop trying to sound smart.

>>3959281
Holy shit, this much mismatched components, Voodoo 2 and AWE64 are too old for a Pentium 3.
More like a Voodoo 5 and Audigy

>>3965836

There is, but that's not actually what will cause the lag. id was much less conservative with level design in Doom II, despite how boring it all is to me.

>>3965839
>There is
If you say so, source?
Except the version number differences, but that's irrelevant because Doom still got patches after Doom 2 and the executables and engines are both the same version in the end.

>id was much less conservative with level design in Doom II, despite how boring it all is to me.
This depends very much by level, some Doom levels and places in those levels will run much worse than most of Doom 2 will.

>>3953158
I still have fun with Wolf3D. It was one of my first video games I ever played. I had a joystick to play the game with and it was awesome.

>>3951894
I think doom would be ok.

this may be the right place to ask.
I was thinking about putting together a few dos/98 systems to get 100% compatibility with games

how many computers you think that would take and what about specs?

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>>3959281
>Nab a couple of older computers off my gramps for cheap
>Go about looking at them and researching the parts
>Look up one of the motherboards
>Some motherfucker wants $269 for it on Ebay
>There's also someone selling a Voodoo 3 3000 for NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS

>>3951832
Duke will run but like shit.

Also id get more ram and sure as hell a better hard drive with more memory then 250mb.

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I too recently decided to rebuy what I had regrettably thrown out just because I was moving. I accepted the eBay price as punishment for my stupidity throwing out my beloved 486DX4.

Just last night I confirmed it is alive. Now I got to figure out how I will transfer a few files over (burn CD-RW, IDE HDD to USB adapter, or utilize the old 10/100). If I ever get the room, my hoarder uncle does have a Gateway P5-75 with 17" CRT monitor still around which I will want to tinker with as well. Sorry camera and my old CRT monitor aren't good.

>>3951832
You could setup PCem virtual machine with exact same hardware before buying. You would be able to run any game to check performance just like on real hardware and then decide what you want to buy or test different CPUs until you find what suits you best and then buy it.

You should have gotten a n64. Lol

>>3968640
I'd suggest hooking it up to the LAN, firing up ftpdmin on the target PC and using IE to connect and transfer files. Quick and easy.

I played Doom and Duke 3D on a 486 50mhz, so I don't see why not.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure a 16mb S3/Trident card would work with a 486, unless it was some super specialized graphics card used for Geophysics or high level CAD design. At the time, most graphics chips offered between 1 and 2 MB VRAM.
Something just doesn't sound right about those specs.

>>3968640
>>3969569
or use a USB flash drive like a normal person...

>>3969664
>find an ISA USB board and drivers tso you can use USB flash drive like an underage
Top kek kid

>>3969819
Why are you using such garbage hardware when they make motherboards with USB on them? I swear you guys limit what you can do just to circlejerk over using old shit that's a pain in the ass to use.

>>3951832
I played Doom and Duke 3d on a 486sx 25MHz processor with 4 MB ram and a 1MB trident card.

>>3969860
Yeah, at 5FPS

>>3968809
Not how it works. You really can't accurately emulate a specific x86 architecture and it's pipelines, cache, etc.
Not to mention the rest of the system and it's buses.

>>3969834
>hurr why do you use a 486 without USB on the motherboard!?

>>3968640
I use Samba and FTP with my 8088 over RJ45 ethernet. Why even ask such a stupid question, it's easy as fuck.

>>3969664
USB wasn't a thing back then and it's not even needed, do you use USB sticks nowadays to transfer files in your home from one computer to another? I surely hope not because if they are on the same network it's just bothersome.

>>3967968
Those are KikeBay prices, local sales sites I can get a Voodoo 3 for 5-10 bucks.

>>3969834
Because we want to. We each have our reasons.
I suggest you fuck off back to a board that's more your age. And by board I mean youtube comments.

>>3951832
>Cpu:Cyrix 486 DX2 50MHz
gross. should have gone with a pentium 3 900mhz

>>3969819
>find an ISA USB board and drivers
I don't understand why you can't use PCI..? If you're utilizing 95 OSR 1.5 or greater there's definitely USB support; as for USB storage device drivers, I have a few lying around on CD's for win98. It's certainly doable.

>>3955664
No games took advantage of a GPU until 3dfx and directx got popular. Everything was done on CPU pixel by pixel and grapics card acted solely to output the calculated by CPU graphics to the monitor.

Quake 2 was the first big game to use acceleration, and still some devs found 3d acceleration to be extremely limiting (MDK looks actually worse accelerated because cards couldn't support the huge textures that worked just as fine in software mode)

>>3970820
Entirely depends on he's motherboard, if it's a true 486 motherboard from the times of DX2 and downward, it won't have PCI, that's a good guess, because why use a DX2 CPU when you bought a motherboard when better CPUs where around?

>>3970837
>Quake 2 was the first big game to use acceleration
Is that what kids actually think nowadays?

>>3970418
It would give OP some insight into what 50MHz are capable off, and with some really good measure (I'm emulating same machine I have on my desk and it is pretty damn close, really). You are right - PCem is not able to have 100 accuracy, but virtually, there's nothing stopping you from creating emulator emulating guest machine to metal level, apart from emulation speed.

>>3970837
>MDK looks actually worse accelerated because cards couldn't support the huge textures that worked just as fine in software mode)
That's because MDK's 3D acceleration port was sloppy. If you break the textures down into chunks, N64-style, you can achieve high-resolution textures, and it'll still be a lot faster than software acceleration.

>>3970648
Why not an i7 5820k in that case then?

>>3970530
>Those are KikeBay prices, local sales sites I can get a Voodoo 3 for 5-10 bucks.
Craigslist?

>>3970820
Top kek kid. Most 486 boards didn't have PCI or USB. Loading 95 on the machine isn't going to make them magically appear dingus.

>>3971437
>Most 486 boards didn't have PCI or USB
Like half of 486 boards had PCI. Of course, they didn't have USB. That didn't appear until the Pentium 2 era.

>>3971449
>half
Nah. They were making 486 boards for years before PCI came out. The pentium came out around the same time as PCI and within a year was the standard. Maybe half the 486sx boards sold to Brazil have PCI. kek.

>>3952436
The 90s were really a wild west for PC compatible parts. You had a shitton of manufacturers for almost any kind of component or peripheral. Even Western Digital had been making video cards back then. By the early 00s it was all over with everyone but a few having either been bought our or gone out of business.

>>3954527
The nostalgia will wear off quickly, then after a deep realization that 1996 was 21 years ago, depression will set in.

>>3955664
The term "GPU" didn't even exist until Nvidia first used it in reference to the Geforce 256 core. Anyway 3D acceleration under DOS was non-existent, even DOS Quake was all rendered off the main CPU. Vesa BIOS extensions were important, but those were provided either by the BIOS or by a TSR such as UniVBE. Hardware acceleration was available in Windows via Glide (Voodoo) or, less likely, early DirectX, or OpenGL provided you had required hardware, drivers, and the game in question suported it.

>>3959731
The Pentium III 450 MHz is the slowest PIII though, it came out in early 1999. The Voodoo 2 and an AWE64 is 90s stuff too.

>>3965838
That's the slowest, oldest P3 thought. 450 MHz is more P2 tier than what you normally associate with a P3. And an ISA card such as an AWE64 is a way better choice for DOS games than any PCI card.

>>3959198
IPX is meant for LANs. If you want to go on the internet with DOS you need a TCP/IP stack.

>>3959198
And now for an answer that's not retardedly useless.
It's handled by your routers. You establish a connection between them and then bridge the networks. Your typical cheapo home wifi router can't handle this. Some higher end consumer grade routers will and you can build very powerful and flexible routers out of old PCs.

>>3972762
Joke's on you I'm already depressed

>>3973591

Then totally set up a classic computer, I spend a lot of time tinkering with the memory settings and its so satisfying when you finally get it optimized as fuck!

Which reminds me, gotta stop browsing those porn sites and install those Lemmings games.

>>3973631
Lemmings games oughtta be played on an Amiga and nothing else, the PC ports have inferior graphics and a horrible excuse for music.

>>3974861

I know, but its a hobby. I got them all running now.
Maybe this summer I'll dedicate some time on my Amigas.

>>3965834
>Quake will no way run on a 486, even a 100MHz DX4
Yes it will. It just won't run well. A mate of mine used to run it on something alot slower than 100mhz, though it was in a small window.

>>3968640
>Now I got to figure out how I will transfer a few files over
Does it have a network card? SMB filesharing hasn't changed a whole lot, you should be able to transfer files from a modern Windows/Linux machine to a 98 box with relative ease, or if SMB refuses to work for some crazy Windowsy reason set up FTP.

Then again, burning a single CD probably IS less work than setting any of that shit up, huh. Well, it was a thought.

>>3975132
Getting Win9x SMB to work reliably with later versions of Windows such as NT5 (2k/XP/2k3), let alone NT6 (Vista/7/etc.) could be quite finnicky. Lots of things regarding file sharing and security worked just fundamentally differently in Win9x, if you aren't familiar with some quirks, you may end up with puzzling "access denied", "resource not found" etc. errors.

>>3970525
>USB wasn't a thing back
By the time windowns 98 was launched it was, maybe a pain in the ass to make it work with reliability but it did...

You want to coerce that computer to read usb sticks than try to set up a netwok share against a modern windows OS... if your mobo has USB ports, take that route, trust me.

>>3975807
USB 1.0/1.1 speeds are around 1 MB/s, and 10Mbps Ethernet is about the same. The best route imho would be to use a HDD dock or enclosure that supports PATA drives, and copy the files directly to the HDD that's going to sit in the old machine.

>>3961535
real pc is better
Dos box is slow for 800x600 games and some late dos games

>>3975807
>486 thread
>windowns 98
Your /v/illage is missing it's idiot champ.

>>3975934
Go back to your Amiga jerking faggot

>>3975746
I have a perfectly working file sharing between DOS 3.2 and Windows 10.
It's far from finicky, just install MS Network Client and done, mount your network share as a drive and do what you wish.

>>3972801
You don't use a P3 for DOS gaming, not even a P2, you use a Pentium /w MMX or 486DX4.

>>3975830
Ethernet will save a lot of time VS USB or an hard drive dock.
Maybe a CF card with an adapter that sticks out from the back would be faster.

Also why USB 1.0/1.1 if you already have PCI, just use a USB 2.0 card, without PCI you can't use USB anyways.

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>>3969569
>>3969664
>>3970525
>>3975132
My 486 machine does not have any USB ports. However, it does have a 10/100 NIC, but I do not intend for it to be connected to anything online. I only intend for the machine to be my DOS gaming box. I don't intend for it to go on any network, just a simple DOS machine. I currently ripped out the HDD, and will use the IDE to USB cable and copy some of my favorite games of the day.


>>3975934
The image I posted was Windows 98 running on a 486DX4, which is around the minimum requirements for the operating system. I am not going to do anything intensive with it, maybe that old Windows Monopoly game or an entertainment pack. I find it nice that it works, but I will mostly be playing DOS games.

This reminds me how happy I was when I finally got rid of my 486 and bought a Pentium with all of 200 M-m-m-m-m-megahertz baby! Because now I could finally play some games.

>>3979807
> I only intend for the machine to be my DOS gaming box. I don't intend for it to go on any network, just a simple DOS machine
You could transfer files over the network using a modern OS live disc (like Puppy Linux) without ever installing network software onto DOS.

>>3979807
>I do not intend for it to be connected to anything online.
You don't have to connect it online, just to the local network.

>>3979898
You don't have to install anything, everything you need is available in binary form you could run straight off a floppy in DOS.

>>3979807
>My 486 machine does not have any USB ports.
Pleb

>>3951832
>Duke3d
Yeah, it should play. If your motherboard can support it, get an AMD 5x86 133mhz CPU.. those things were amazing back in the 90s, that combined with a voodoo allowed me to play Quake.

>>3983623
>Yeah, it should play.
not with the stock CPU

>>3952727
you've got that backwards friend

>>3951832
Why not try to play on modern hardware?

>>3951832
You should look into something like a Intel Pentium Pro 200MHz when it comes to the old classics like Doom.

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>>3951915
>>3951894
>had a 33mhz Macintosh Quadra
>it crushed Duke Nukem, Doom, Hexen, Alone in the Dark and X-Wing
Explain that with your precious science

>>3984707
68k was miles ahead of x86 at that time.
Also no, it didn't "crush" them, it was more playable than on a equal 486 machine though.

t. I have a Quadra 650 less than 2 meters from me right now. Also several 386 and 486 machines.

>>3984605
why?

my problem with Retro PC is that using DosBox is way better than using an old computer as far as DOS gaming goes

hopefully PCem gets streamlined enough to become a DosBox for Win95/98 games

>>3987637

DOSBox hasn't seen a release in like 7 years dude. It's rapidly-crumbling shit and 0.74 still has problems with some really popular games.

I hold out hope for PCem.

>>3987637
Not even close though.
A DOS PC with a SoundBlaster and even a Voodoo card for those few DOS games that supported it, is a far better experience than DOSBox, specially the low-res ones look far superior on a CRT already.

>>3987648

Hell, if I'd known the devs were going to do this shit (back in 0.73) I wouldn't have gotten into DOS emulation at all.

>>3987678
There is nothing wrong with DOSBox, if you just want to play that one game from time to time.
But if you like to play several games in good quality, then a proper DOS shitbox is better.
But proper these days also means expensive, you play what you pay.

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>>3979898
Not a bad idea, I liked Knoppix because it was so simple. I hope to work on the machine some more today.


>>3980432
While my 486 machine does have a 3.5" floppy drive, I don't intend on using it. I am currently trying to figure out in its limited remaining 4GBs of free space on C:\ (motherboard and case only has room for just a CD-ROM and single HDD for its master/slave) I can install.


Just to fit onto that small HDD, I will have to cull titles away from the games of my youth:

Epic Pinball
Star Control 2
Princess Maker 2
Sam & Max: Hit the Road (talkie?)
Tyrian
Zone 66
Ultima 7 Part 1&2 with expansions
Legend of Kyrandia 1 & 2
Scorched Earth
Civilization
Cobra Mission
Masters of Magic
Wing Commander 2
X-wing + Tie Fighter
Doom (specifically 1.1-1.2)
Leisure Suit Larry 5 & 6
UFO
Privateer
Day of the Tentacle (talkie?)
SimCity 2000
Knights of Xentar
Raptor: Call of the Shadows
King's Quest 6
Seasons of the Sakura
Super Tetris
Pirates
Street Fighter 2 bootlegs
Inherit the Earth
Halloween Harry
Pinball Dreams
Prince of Persia 1 & 2
Monopoly Deluxe
Silverball
Theme Park
Extreme Pinball
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo

World Rally Fever [never played, looks cool]


I have made the hard decisions to cut so far:
Alone in the Dark
Syndicate
Metal & Lace
Crusader: No Remorse
Warcraft 2
Power Dolls
Jazz Jackrabbit 2
Commander Keen
Duke Nukem 2
System Shock
I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
Beneath a Steel Sky
Populous

Life is so hard, with these old computers. I think I have to leave room too for the .swp file a Windows computer uses (and I think I need ice.exe to make Wing Commander 2 run right).

Any suggestions for additions accepted.


>>3983026
To be fair, in those days, even the Pentiums running Windows 95 did not have USB ports either.

>>3990272
>Any suggestions for additions accepted.
If you're just going to do a one time transfer just use a USB-PATA adapter and copy them over to the drive from another machine.

>>3990272

If you can fit it in you could always get one of those cards that allow for larger HDD's (I don't know the name right now).
I did that with my computer, put an 80gb in with DOS 7.10 with fat32 and 2 partitions.

You could fit everything you want on that.

(unless a 486 doesn't support that kinda card)

>>3992615
How about you just use a bigger hard drive with a drive overlay?
You don't need separate hardware for it.