What does /vr/ think of remakes?

I'm pretty sure no one besides /v/ermin morons think it's "better".

>>3897692
I'm exclusively talking about those visual novel remakes, by the way. Others tend to vary.

>>3897692
>>3897707
With the one exception being Kazoku keikaku.

That's a good remake that keeps the same aesthetics but corrects some of the goofy looking CGs.

>>3897685
Never played either one, but from looking at that the graphics seem to have taken a hit, and the girl got a titty reduction.

>>3897692
>>3897707
Imo it remakes are always worse, always

>>3897685
VNs remakes are disappointing because they almost never stick to the old artstyle and modern anime style sucks balls.

It depends on the remake.
They can be well done and improve on the original or they are poorly and nothing prevents you from sticking to the original.
Often they'll stay somewhere in between with improvements in one aspects and flaws in another.

>>3897876
Still better than running the 16 color graphics through a filter.
In a few cases they'll properly recolor the original assets.

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>>3897685
Is there a word that describes that generic artstyle you see in a lot of light novel adaptations? Pointy chins, half noses, thin hair and eyebrows, flat coloring, two tone shading, overuse of gradients and filters to make up for lack of detail. Whatever it is I'm sick of it.

>>3897685
They're nice for convenience sake but never really add anything of value

>>3897876
>modern anime style sucks balls.
I couldn't agree more

>>3898274
Not really but people tend to call it big-eyes small-mouth.

80s and, to a lesser degree, 90s had some great art styles in anime. Kenichi Sonoda, Haruhi Mikimoto, Yoshikazu Yasuhiko, even Shirow Masamune, whom I don't like very much. They all were unique and recognizable. Nowadays it's just like >>3898274 described. They all looks the same. You can barely distinguish one anime from another.
Just look at the OP pic, the one on the right looks terribly bland and flat.
tl;dr old /m/echafag cries about studios pandering to young audiences and not to him

>>3898274
I don't know, but I hate it

>>3897876
>>3898525
probably because you're both philistines and don't know shit about anime

>80s Japanese PC games style will never return

On the other hand there are so many of them I would never have time to go through all of them

>>3898610
I know it sucks.

>>3897685
Depends on how they're done. Wild Guns Reloaded is the perfect example of how you do a remake right. Try to keep it as faithful to the original game as possible while still adding some enhancements that doesn't totally betray it like the pic you posted. Hell they did such a great job at making the graphics and art style being faithful there were a ton of minor things I didn't even notice until I saw a direct side by side comparison.

>>3898274
It isn't more generic than late 80s to early 90s style like on the left of OP picture.

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When they cry's ps3 remake was great.

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>>3898774
It is. It is technically better. But I'm one of those individuals that prefer the original's art. Just because.

>>3898610
The reason why it sucks is because of the new style is literally intended for animation and not still images. That's why it has more pros than cons in anime, but as static visual art asset its just a bunch of cons.

>>3897685

the 1st one is great the second one looks like Fate shit

>>3897685
This actually looks fine, you didn't show the actual bad stuff which is how Takuya's father looks like in the remake or the designs in the other world.... oh wait no one actually played the game here and are just shitting on something because it's cool thing to do.
Also Saturn version had the best graphics while the remake has best Kanna design.

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>>3899229
Right one looks so much better.

>>3899229
tsukihime started out as a doujin game though, the art was amateur from the beginning.

>>3899389
Almost. I wish her hair was poofier.

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>>3899441
02 did that well.
(Not much of a visual novel though)

They just do those remakes to get money from people with nostalgia and those who bandwagon to hot popular things.
There is just no point in remaking those games since they are not so old to begin with, are easy to pirate or emulate and don't really have any gameplay to begin with.
I could understand a remake of old Rance or if they remade something like Groundseed.

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>>3899219
>>3899229
Arc may have been ruined, but at least the best still remains the best.
The remake's never getting released anyway, though.

>>3899495
No it doesn't, while I prefer original hair color everything else is just better in the remake.
The truth is that if you were born with PC-98 games you would be just as bored of the art style as you are now from modern anime.

>>3899481
>>3899461
not bad
>>3897685
utterly boring.

>>3899481
I didn't even know they made a Nonomura Byouin remake.

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>>3897685
The original version makes sense because Eriko is an alien timecop and would probably wear weird shit like that, I think they even mention how weird her clothes are. Meanwhile the one on the right looks like she's wearing normal clothing. Also, I have no idea why they made all the MILFs look younger and changed the eye colors.

>>3899509
Kohaku's smile is great though. I am terrified.

>>3899509
>tfw hisui's va is dead

>>3899229
Left: battle arena toshinden
Right: final fantasy tactics

Most of the time remakes completely miss the point of what made the original game special.

>>3899664
It's an odd case. It came out a mere five months after the Saturn port which was graphically close the the original release.

>>3900510
>five months after the Saturn port
The 1996 Windows port was also the old art (with the Saturn color upgrade I guess) 'cause that's the one I bought.
Wikipedia says there were three releases after that: 2003 DVD-PG, 2003 multi-pack (I think that was a double-pack with Kawarazaki-ke), and 2007 DMM.
I don't know which of those was the one that first got the new art though.

>>3899229
>>3899219
Dammit, everything about Arc is ok, but just give me the fucking long skirt back.

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>>3900541
That clears some of my confusion about Kana's CG.
In her hint corner she says you will get a lewd image of her as a reward for persevering until the end. But in the remake they replaced that image so the whole thing became pointless.

>>3900550
I though she was tearing the weird looking vagina she had.

>>3900568
Guess that's why she's in the hospital.

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>>3898552
>Nowadays it's just like >>3898274 described. They all looks the same. You can barely distinguish one anime from another.
Yeah I definitely can't tell all these Winter shows apart. If you told me they're all from K-On I'd believe you.

Also, did you know that modern anime is literally mass produced using pirated flash and outsourced to Madagascar and designed by committees of cackling, moustache-twirling executives who were personally responsible for Japan's WW2 medical experiments? It's true. I heard all of this on YouTube where, like you, I get all my information about anime from (and I of course mean the comments, not videos).

>>3900963
Asians all rook da shame, anon. PC westeros and Xbone mustard rice, anon!

>>3898274
>Pointy chins, half noses, thin hair and eyebrows, flat coloring, two tone shading, overuse of gradients and filters

I like the 3X3 Eyes mango and OVAs too, anon. You mad?

>>3897685
I liked TR anniversary more than the original.

>>3901276
Quick time events really do it for you huh?

>>3901297
It was hit and miss, that fight with two centaurs in Greece was better in anniversary for example.

>>3901327
Okay yeah that was solid. It's not a bad remake, but I thought it had issues. Always loved the first TR though.

I liked the remake of star ocean 1, and I liked the remake of resident evil 1

hell, I even liked shattered memories, the sort of remake of silent hill 1

sometimes remakes are good, sometimes remakes are not so good

>>3899721
The real reason she dresses like that is because she thought it was a good idea to get fashion tips from Takuya, who unsurprisingly told her that dressing like that is in fashion. Also, for the last time, anon: She's not a time cop!

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>>3897685
The real tragedy here is that some of the CGs actually look pretty nice.

>>3897692
You're just a cock-sucker ridden with nostalgia.

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>>3902987
And some of the old CG looked quite bad.

>>3899229
It's been years since I saw some Porkslope Turkeyhandle.

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>no Lightgun remake despite VR

>>3900963
You need to fuck off /a/, your medium is pure garbage.

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>>3905839
Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your stay :)

>>3905839
Average /a/ is pure garbage, but saying the whole medium is... Not only stupid, but pathetic.

>>3898274
it's just the modern style.
there isn't really a name for it.

>>3905839
Are you implying that manga is garbage as well?
OT: I'm usually not a fan of remakes because they either didn't change enough or they changed too much. I like what Nintendo did with Super Mario All Stars, Mario Bros. and Donkey Kong but I don't consider them superior to the original games. Haven't played many remakes of sega or playstation games but from what I played of the originals, I think most of them hold up well. I don't think the remake of Crash 3 will amaze me as much as the original version on PS1 just to give an example.

>>3897685
I like the original art style better, plus her attire looks more interesting.

>>3903050
>And some of the old CG looked quite bad.
I don't know if it's just me, but it seems like the actual Ero CGs in PC-98 games are almost always the worst looking ones, even for games that just want to be Nukige with no higher aspirations.

>>3898274
I call it UFOTABLE

Named after the studio that animates Fate/Stay Night adaptations and makes everyone look like Saber with different hair.

Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen and Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver are great remakes of their respective originals but they're not without flaws: the former two are too close to the originals while the latter two changed things a lot in certain areas.

>>3898274
It's the moe style. No, moe is not a genre.

Remakes and remasters are shitty. Give me the original any day.

>>3909064
For visual novels that large means no voice acting, no CG gallery, no text log or other comfort features.

>>3897685
I'm tired of them but sometimes it's needed. Galerians could use a remake/reboot because the first game played like ass while the second game was better (I will die on this hill) it still suffered from flawed gameplay. Galerians in general was just given such a shitty hand and was never popular at all. Honestly, I'd prefer a full-blown reboot instead of a purist remake simply because I don't want to play the same game twice. Do something else with the Last Galerians from the PS2 game because I really liked those characters much more than the first game's cast.
>>3908962
This was my problem with FRLG. Great purist remake but too purist to the point that it's kind of dull. One of the things that pissed me off is that Sludge Bomb is not available until the postgame so Venusaur is denied a good STAB because of it.

>>3897685
Honestly, i think that remakes are unnecessary. They can be good games in their own right, like REmake, but when that came out, all i wanted was RE4.

So rather than remake a game and make it basically a totally new game, why not just make a totally new game?

Spot on, by the books remakes serve as a graphical upgrade and brings the games to a new audience, so it's less grating.

However i will forever stand by the fact that no game "needs" to ne remade. a game may no longer appeal to the masses, but fuck em. Look at the FFVII remake. It's going to be just like FFXV, and you know it. Hold circle to watch combat happen, 3 spells and call it a day.
Did that NEED to happen? No. And it's because the masses demanded it, and that shit is seen as "better" these days.

However the hd edition of FFVII that literally just looks better but is otherwise EXACTLY the same game is totally fine. It retains the original experience, but is less grating to kids and graphics whores.

But who am i?

>>3910142
The Pokémon Company said back in the day that FRLG were more to introduce the Wireless Adapter than anything so they remade RG to reintroduce old characters, which would be new to children.

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Remakes are creatively bankrupt, boring, soulless, lifeless cash-ins.

>>3898774
>>3898785
I really just find the remake art sorta bland and generic. The original atleast had this homely, hand-crafted sort of aesthetic that helped bring me into it more. I know it's subjective but damn do I prefer it vastly more than the forgettable PS3 artwork.

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>>3903050
B-But muh 80's art style was never bad!!! Surely only modern anime style is trash?

>>3911571
>both of the same company

>>3911594
remake and original were both made by different company, what's your point?

>>3900963
What's funny is as a non-anime fan, I literally cannot tell what shows, except for the biggest outliers, are unique from each other in that image. That's not particularly surprising though, since people who don't play video games can't tell games apart from each other either (For example, when I used to live at home a decade ago my mother always asked me if every game I was playing was either Zelda or "that shooting game.")