Is PSX the ugliest console of all time?

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>>3894301
ugh. literally eye cancer.

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I was playing Mega Man Legends for the first time last night and thought it looked great. Also beat Kagero Deception II recently and all the different models for the people you kill looked cool and varied. Definitely not the ugliest console, that's for sure.

Shit thread but obviously no, Atari is much worse

>>3894301
Virtual Boy

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>>3894301
I prefer a console capable of the lowest lows and the highest highs than one stuck in perpetual visual mediocrity, like the Ultra 64

i don't remember the texture deformation on saturn. can an expert confirm?

>>3894338
lol'd

>>3894363
confirmed

>>3894301
It's tied with the other 5th gen consoles for a lot of games, but great stuff like >>3894338 does exist on all of them.

>>3894301
Looks good to me.

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It's pretty great.

>>3894338
>highest highs
That certainly isn't the ps1.

>>3894301
>>3894304
>>3894610
I don't see the problem here. I love the aesthetic of low poly games.

>>3894338
>>3894610
you motherfuckers using emulators don't count. the higher resolution is doing that shit a ton of favors.

FFIX looks good, but i'm willing to bet whatever the fuck that jackie chan game is looks like garbage at 240p.

It's gritty not pretty. Prettiness is for children.

>>3894683
>emulator
>REEEEEEE

>>3894683
>320 x 240 image
>REEEEEEEEEEE EMULATORS AT 4K
what did he mean by this?

>>3894301
MGS1 has a great aesthetic, game looks good to this day thanks to the art.

Am I just being a fanboy? I always thought the art was really great.

>It's a console warring thread on /vr/

>>3894794
It's way more atmospheric than Twin Snakes, but people can't get past "REEEEE MUDDY TEXTURES"

>>3894301
There's a lot of ugly ps1 games, but metal gear solid still looks pretty good even today in my opinion, aside from the faces.

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>tfw you realize you frequent a board that is comprised of 12 year olds that weren't even alive when MGS came out

I see people on youtube now thinking they're old and wise because their first consoles was fifth gen.

>>3894301
No, I'm pretty sure that award goes to the CD-I.

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>>3894338
>uh-oh, they attacked my beloved PlayStazion, I better attack the Ultra 64!

Also
>ps
>highest highs

Unfiltered low-res textures are the sexiest thing.

>>3894301
It's pretty fuckin ugly.

>>3894896
Is that Stamper?

>>3894924
This. A lot of games look so terrible. But I get a lot of shit from a ps1 friend who always talks about n64 frame rate, specifically goldeneye. He can't mention it without mentioning frame rate. And yet at the same time he can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps in a modern game.

>>3894917
they are, just a shame a lot of really nice looking ps1 games have a dithering filter over the frustum of the camera.

These console wars threads are so shitty.
Please keep them on /v/.

>>3894896
The irony of you moaning about someone defending the Playstation on this board is astounding.

CD-I, Jaguar and 3DO have lots of ugly games.

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>psx

>>3895005
Pretty much everything on Atari2600 looks like ass. There are some good games, but the graphical loss in arcade ports on that beast made people's complaints about downgraded ports in later generations look petty.

Not that most complaints about videogames aren't petty.

>>3894301
5th gen in general looked like ass. Except for the 2D games on Saturn, and Neo-Geo/CD games.

>>3894301
Not at all. Compact white slot loader. The thing's beautiful. Way better looking than a phat.

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>>3895004
>needing to defend a system from console warriors
>being a console warrior

>>3894996
I didn't think this was a console war thread until you mentioned it. And now a bunch of other people are using the term in this thread. Thanks

>>3894996
What console war? Op didn't mention other consoles. He just said psx is ugly which it damn well was.

>>3894301
the texture jiggling is part of the charm

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FUCK DITHERING

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>waah mama Playstation was too ugly

By the time I got to the end of this thread I was a 100% certain I'd misclicked boards and landed on /v/.

>>3895242
>waah mama I can't handle some light banter

>>3894301
Overrated games general?

It was called the Playstion or the PS, faggot. That's like still calling the N64 the Ultra 642

>>3894301
low-poly is comfy tho. the only real problem with ps1 is the weird polygon flickering. even emus cant fix it

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I like it.

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Rooks pretty good.

>>3895514
>>3895561
youre using that emulation that fixes the gross ass warping textures and you're playing at high res eat shit. that ain't the true psx experience kid.

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>>3895662
Just like in that spongebob episode with the clothespin.

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>>3895662
>gross
Hey, it's cool.

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>>3895826
works well with pac-man

>>3895228
my dad used to love this one for it's graphics. They were damn good for it's day.

psx had a bunch of great looking games, why would anyone hate on it? don't you understand that it was the first 3D generation? of course characters would be low poly, lightning wouldn't be realistic, textures would be all pixelated.

Even then, you get great looking games like MGS, Crash bandicoot, Ridge Racer 4, FF9.
And if you don't dig that, there's plenty of good 2D like klonoa, Capcom fighters, megaman X series and... megaman 8 (one of my all time favourite 2D games as far as graphics go)

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WHO DIS

>>3895895
Even Pac got erections on his brows

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AND WHO IS THIS

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PAC-FAMILY AT THE KINO ROOM.

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>>3895839
Pac looks smug.

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>>3895927
for us

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there she go again

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break time for the couple

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>>3894301
Looks good to me. But not retro.

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what's her problem

>>3895970
Cunny Villa?

Just kidding. I need to play this game in wireframe to see how they did all this.

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>>3895976
it's magic i tell you

>>3895983
>Einhander
>never has a loading screen past the intro FMV
>60 fps
>looks amazing
how

>>3895983
I get a full erection everytime I find out someone else knows the greatness that is Einhander

>>3895983
Best shmup. Memories. Feels;

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>>3896081
i bought an original copy for cheap too.

>>3894301
I guess you haven't played the Sega Saturn. All of the games on both the PSX and Saturn look much worse on the latter. Resident Evil is a great example of this.

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>>3895826

Some devs went so overboard trying to compensate for the PS1's texture warping that the games sacrificed detail or draw distance. Wish there was a generic "increase draw distance" mod for ePSXe.

>>3894301
>PSX

NOT RETRO

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I actually like pre-rendered backgrounds

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>>3896168
I bet you only drink space beer

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Are Vagrant Story's aesthetics /vr/ approved? Always thought that it was a beautiful game.

Why do people get so triggered when others say Playstation X?

>>3896347
Nice pixelated ass

>>3896352
Don't get distracted and answer my question.

>>3896131
Left: Voodoo1 Right: Software renderer

>>3894758
>>3894693
I thought people replying with REEE was a tumblr thing

>>3894678
Issue is not low poly entirely. It is incredibly low textures that like to shake like parkinsons. I have a ton of favorites on PS1 but can't pretend the console ruined a bunch of games that would have been better off on pc or waiting a console generation.

How does MGS1 look emulated? Is there any way to play it at a higher resolution but maintain the pixelated aesthetic of the playstation 1?

I always hated the PC version of MGS because it looks smudged blurry, it did no favor at all to the visuals, actually looks worse.

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no

>>3894301
I thought ps1 looked like the N64.

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looks good to me

>>3896856
N64 has better textures,just my 2 cents.

>>3896034
>Hi Ryu
what did they mean by this

>>3896131
>left side of PS1
what the FUCK happened to the subdivision there? what a goddamn waste of polygons no wonder it ran like shit

>>3897390
It's Hiryu.

>>3896849
Kek

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>>3896131
JUST
FUCK
MY
OPTIMIZATION
UP

>>3896164
Neither is the N64.

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>>3897489

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>>3896404
it's still wobbly

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THAT'S HER SNEAK ATTACK??

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Case 1: American ""developer""

The fuck were they thinking? No wonder the framerate drops during fights.

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>>3897984
Case 2: Japanese developer

They hardly needed to go mad with subdivision and yet there is virtually no texture warping in motion, only if you stand still and stare at the walls in the back. Oh and this is a 60 fps game. How do the nips do it?

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>>3897984
Case 3: This perspective and FOV is technically cheating, but it goes to show just how little you need to subdivide to avoid texture warping. This is Tekken Force and it's also 60 fps, potentially having multiple enemies on screen.

>>3897989
Show a European game.

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>>3898027
Case 1, bad: Moto Racer 2 by DSI. French, made Flashback & Another World. Subdivides out the ass, runs and plays like shit compared to the PC version.

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>>3898027
Case 2, good: Wipeout 3 by Psygnosis. Relies on subdivision but doesn't compromise framerate, it's rock solid. But most importantly the subdivision seems mathematically correct and uniform.

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>>3898040
An example of "what the fuck are you doing" subdivision is Spiderman and by proxy Tony Hawk. Presumably this roof top should be flat and shouldn't have complex geometry, but Neversoft filled the place with broken triangles overlapping each other. And what's up with the ledge on the right? What a waste of polygons.

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>>3898046
Don't talk shit about Neversoft

>>3898078
Nigga fuck your role model bitch im my own idol


And if you can't face it my nigga you can ass it

>>3897460
>>3897984

It could just be a really, really misguided attempt to make the lighting more precise, as Q2 uses vertex lighting on PS1 instead of the N64's lightmaps.

>>3898362

It also looks like the PS1 is tessellating the surfaces in real time, as in both Q2 and >>3898046 it only gets ridiculous when the camera is close.

>>3898368
Yeah by subdividing I really meant tessellation in real time when you walk up close, most PS1 games do this. My issue is developers abusing it way too much to the point where it's hurting performance if it wasn't locked to 30. Or the tessellation is so messy like >>3898046 that fucks with what could've been a cleaner optimization. With that era of console hardware I would think every last bit helps.

>>3895228
holy FUCK

I've never played RR, I had no fucking idea it looked this good

>>3896863
N64 just used flat colours for most thing.

>>3895839
Aww hell yeah, Pac Man World

Just beat it for the first time ever 2 months ago, totally worth it

Yeah, the PS1 was the beginning of the end of gaming along with the N64. Style over substance gaming started in the mid-90s with the push toward 3difying everyfuckingthing and a rash of ugly games with zero goddamn good gameplay that people thought were good because OMG3D SO NEW AND FANCY, which continued on through to the modern day with refinement of graphics but still garbage gameplay.

/vr/ should be pre-1995. Period.

>>3898493

Those are some hot (read: shit) opinions you got there.

>>3898425

Racing games tend to always have nice graphics on consoles, but R4 is one of the best looking games on the PS1.

It's also a pretty fun game to boot. Nice courses, tons of cars, smooth music... it's pretty comfy, especially if you have a NeGcon.

>>3894301
>ps10
you what m8?

>>3898823
You took time to make this post
so did I though, so I guess we're both faggots

>>3897984
>>3897989
>>3897991
>>3898034
>>3898040
>>3898046
the 'tism

>>3898505
Type 4 supports Dualshock

>>3894304
then go play COD faggot

>>3896863
Are you serious mate? I'll admit I didn't play too many games on the n64, I can't believe that the flash carts could hold nearly as good textures as the ps1s CDs. I mean, vanilla users couldn't always fully see those textures, but they were there.

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>>3899479
>advocating playing a racing game with DualShock over NeGcon

>>3895976
Gouraud shading and a lot of detail where it's needed. The Spyro crew knew how to make that console come alive. The only other games that really surpassed it were Squaresoft games; they were the true masters of the system.

>>3896347
I have never gotten over how stupid Ashely looks, desu.

>>3899039
No, it's practical game design on limited hardware. This is what makes retro dev fun, instead of the modern approach of gluing shit together you don't understand in Unity. It feels good to understand and use your tools well.

>>3894301
that honor belongs to ps2. its color palette ranged from dark brown to swamp green.

>>3899613
I can see where they used their tricks like gouraud shading, LOD, and all that stuff. But I'm still seeing a moderately high amount of polys in Spyro, his skin is extremely detailed, there's consistently fantastic texture mapping in every scene, the HUD is fully 3D, the skybox is literally a 3D mesh. There's a lot of shit going on.

>>3899627
>stretching a 320x240 image to 1280x720
nice try

>>3899634
The point is they balanced system resources and worked with the hardware in such a way to enable a rich landscape with little distortion.

>>3899663
But that's literally how it would look on a big TV, hell better even.

Far more true representation than the other autist itt posting high native res emulated pics of psx with texture warping correction desu pretending that's how psx games actually look lmao

>>3894794
The art style itself is really good and the game has the best atmosphere of any mgs vidya by far but that doesn't stop it from looking like objective ass lmao. Sad because it's one of the best looking games on psx... Sadly this is as good as it gets for that poopoo machine kek.

>>3894610
my nigga that game was the shit. fuk man i used to love this game

>>3899953
That's not how CRT displays work

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>>3899627

>>3899987
Yeah they look even worse at 25+ inches gg.

And kid, I know you're 21 but it's really not a big deal to have grown up with a crt television.

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>no MML gifs posted
I don't know, obviously nice pixel art i better then early 3d but it still has its charm. I can play games like MML, MGS, and RE with no problems.

>>3897561
that pic is from an emulation right? playing my copy of mgs through ps2 (with the texture feature or whatever on) didnt look nearly that good

>>3900119
>texture filtering on
>didn't look nearly that good
you don't say

>>3900121
whats that option for the ps2 again? to play ps1 games that's supposed to make it look better? i thought it was texture filtering, i might be mistaken.

soooo that pic is emulation right? obviously. yea ok

>>3900126
It is turning on texture filtering, but "it makes the games look better" said no one. It's shit, leave it off.

>>3898441
>N64 just used flat colours for most thing.
Some guy wrote this on the N64's wikipedia page a while ago (been removed for a while) and it's bullshit.

Neither the N64 or PS1 made much use of flat shading, they used GOURAUD shading. And quite honestly, I've seen it used much more often on PS1. N64 developers had a habit of spamming (low-res) textures on absolutely everything while on PS1 they'd put up one or two high-res textures and then everything else would just be shaded. Spyro's a good example.

>>3897984
Now I want to see Simcity 2000

>>3900430
But isn't that a sprite game?

>>3896351
Because alot of people on this board have asbergers

>>3900458
u8 the b8 m8

>>3895942
came here to post this

decent looking console, great looking dvr

>>3894301
Is OP the biggest faggot of all time?

>>3899543
Over that pile of piss? Gladly.

>>3895228
I still prefer Gran Turismos though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RprRXMMWAVY

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>>3898505
>>3899591
>he fell for the Memecon

>>3901461
>GOD replaced by GTE

>>3901475
https://www.libretro.com/index.php/mednafenbeetle-psx-pgxp-arrives/

Its far from done but it does work on a small amount of games.

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>>3901516
Not to be rude but PGXP, vertex precision, perspective correction and all that are regularly occurring topics and made several appearances in this thread already.

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>>3901535
I couldnt be arsed to look. Im just here to post PSX memes

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>>3901470
Sure did. Back in '95 as it happens.

It's never been bettered as a handheld driving controller.

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beautiful graphics

more like plebstation lol

>>3900443
I think he meant the ugly 3D drive-in-your-city mode that's exclusive to PS1 version of SC2K.

Fun Fact: It reuses assets from SimCopter

>>3901739
Oh so that's what the hilarious screenshot is from. I might want to get it now.

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>>3900430
>>3901739
Not as pretty as I hoped, the LOD and draw distance kills it

>>3895983
ugh, she looks like carrigans ghost in the casper film

>>3896347
>/vr/ approved

How autistic are you that you let some 4chan board dictate your own opinion?

>>3901697
i got this for the dreamcast instead, looked like the best way to play since the pc version was a port of the ps
but jesus christ it's loud as fuck, pretty sure my dc is on it's last legs tho, has problems reading discs and usually quits games.
kind of got bored of it once i got to the cathedral, but i'd like to give it another try
should i get a new dc or a copy of this on ps1?
they both cost the same anyway

>>3898046
I don't really understand what you're talking about. I assume it's the random changes in the number of polygons per area?

Please post more anon, I'd never seen games through this polygon perspective, so that's what things really look like to the playstation hardware huh?

>>3901461
Why the fuck is the camera wobbling?

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>>3902279
I'm not criticizing that there is a grid of polygons, because that's needed due to the tiling of textures and even more so to a light extreme in order to reduce polygon wobble on Playstation. The problem is why it looks like random garbage instead of a uniform mesh like >>3897989 or >>3898040. Also idiocy like a small part of the ledge on the right having a thousand polygons when it shouldn't. It's a bit autistic and virtually invisible to the end user, but fucked up optimization is a contributing factor to unsteady framerates, which does affect the player.

>>3902295
Windy day?

>>3902295
>Why the fuck is i never play ps games?
Poor+Underage

>>3895336
who you replying to bb?

>>3896404
plays best on the DC with Bleem! Runs at double the resolution and looks fantastic. Also it will run with burned copies of MGS, which is a nice feature.

>people on a retro board being graphicsfags

What the fuck. Were you just not alive in 1994?

>>3896378
What about a Saturn version? At least the polygons wouldn't vibrate like mad whenever there was movement.

>>3895336
>Playstion
Lol look how mad this sperg be

>>3901739
> It reuses assets from SimCopter
It does? The graphics look pretty different. I believe they share the same engine, though, alongside Streets of Simcity.

>>3902039
While the warping textures fix work wonders for it, the game still looks awfuly ugly. Ugly colors, no art direction, bad LOD and small draw distance.

Now I want to see the wireframe. What emulator you're using?

PSX was polykino. Character models in playstation games always seemed more detailed while the n64 had featureless gormless blobs. Then it was the sharp textures vs. low res oily smears.

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>>3902665
I don't mind it looking like shit because of all those reasons, because Namco Museum still looks bomb. The problem with SimCity like I said is the horrible texture LOD (roads are smudges beyond 10 feet) and things cut off from draw distance. If those kinds of anomalies weren't there, it would be Namco Museum Windows 98 level of aescreensaver.

I'm using PCSX Reloaded with PGXP and Pete's OpenGL 1.78 I believe, or whatever else plugins that cycles wireframe modes with F11.

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>>3902701
>Character models in playstation games always seemed more detailed while the n64 had featureless gormless blobs
fake detail from noise, aliasing and jitter
sad!

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Singlehandedly killed arcades in the US
Came out before Direct X and Glide
Cheap to produce
$20 - $40 games
Put Nintendo on life support
Killed Sega

I can see why some people might be upset.

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>>3903172
>Put Nintendo on life support

>>3903180
>the power of casuals
They're back where they should have been a decade ago now, sinking further and further into the red.

>>3903215
ps1 was more casual than n64 bro

>>3903217
nah, n64 was a baby console. Nintendo has always been there for newcomers while sony and sega had explicitly reached out to other higher end audiences.

>>3903257
>higher end audiences
Sorry, you're a child.

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>>3894301
>Ugliest Thing That Can Have Other Things Plugged Into It Award goes to
OP's mom.

>>3902407
Most were not. Being born in 94 doesn't make you any better kiddo.

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>>3903257
Nintendo excels at being for babies and man children who run away when they see blood because they are immature babyfags and can't handle a deep, dark, serious game like I can. Sega and Sony had games that reflected the inner darkness of my soul from having two Christmases since my parents were divorced, while Nintendo did kiddy shit because nintentoddlers are fucking babies who never had to rough it in high school like real people, like me, who had to deal with bullies and preppy douchebags since they didn't understand my real power...

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>>3903335
>Sega and Sony had games that reflected the inner darkness of my soul

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>>3903215
It raises a very important point. The masses dont play a game for a challenge they play it to feel good about them selves.

This is why fee-2-pay phone games are #1. Just pay $3.99 for all the heart tanks and you win the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFv6KAdQ5SE

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>>3904091
>Sonic
>not dark

>>3903152
You really need to see that shit in motion to appreciate it.

>>3897489
what config did you use? if i increase the internal resolution textures become flickery?

>>3894301

Saturn is way uglier

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>>3894301

No.

>>3894304
>ugh. literally eye cancer.

Not bad by comparison.

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>>3902760
Whoa, this is really good to see how graphics worked. I mean, at first I was...

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>>3906590
But then...

That's how optimization looks like.

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>>3906592

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Vaporwave as fuck.

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>>3896347

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Stylish. My new wallpaper.

Playstation floors and walls use up way too many polygons.

>>3906590

It looks like the walls are done with a raycaster, and everything else is done with polygons.

Kind of an interesting approach actually.

>>3906651
I would drag whoever programmed that out into the streets and flog them if I knew who they were. That has got to be the most stupid render engine I have ever seen in my life.

>>3906592
>>3906590
Pretty darn cleaver way around the psx texture warping. Too bad about the game though.

>>3894301
>old consoles = complete classic good games
>new consoles = DLC

pic one

>>3894301
No

>>3896830
I fucking love this game. I always have it on at least one of my devices

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Dokuta Slump. Looks really good.

>>3906651
Yep. I always found strange how the walls looked different from the floor and the character when I emulated it in high resolution, like if they were rendered in a different way or in a different layer, like in Saturn games.
Then I discovered why.

One of the very few techniques that actually only works in the original resolution.

It's really interesting to see the techniques developers would come up with before they actually understood the hardware and how "good" graphics should look and work.

>>3907128
I think it's more a relic from the original PC version. It seems the PS port only added textures to the main character.

>>3894301
the console was pretty! Its just the psx 3D graphics that were cancer inducing.

>>3895228
Racing games don't count cause you don't even GO through dneoejfpwkdj

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Looking terrible my dudes

>>3903180
>>3903215
They only started dropping in 2014. Wii-U and muh 3D was a mistake.

>>3899993
Quick rundown on this guy?

>>3913237
hes the best looking one there

>>3903180
what happened at 2007 for Sony?

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>>3913313

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What games are considered ugly exactly? Maybe they don't look as good as good as certain 16/32 bitvera stuff butbthe ps1 looks fine.

>>3912975

It may very well be the most stable 30 frames in the console.

>>3913389
That generation of consoles really took a nosedive when it comes to frame stability

>>3913316
>Buy muh BDs
Nobody cares about BDs when you can download and stream HD with broadband interwebz. And a self-built PC for that price could run any "HD" res game better than a console, even in 2000's.

>>3894301
>Is PSX the ugliest
The console was a success in their release because making games was pretty easy on it compared to other consoles.
The psx has most of my favourite games so, no complaints.
I even enjoy playing them now a days.

>>3914819
But yea, if for ugliest you mean bad graphics, probably yes

>>3895228
how do you achieve that slick view? I just installed espx and looks worse than the original

>>3914876
Shaky vertices fixed
Affine textures fixed
Widescreen extension
A fuck load of antialiasing but still nearest neighbor

>>3914876
retroarch with vulkan renderer.

I wish there were PS1 games who opted out of textures. Imagine how great why will look then, and how much complex geometry could be. But I guess textures were a too important gimmick.
Are there any examples?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6zHq472i80

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>>3906012
It might be shocking, but there are good-looking Speccy games. With any platform, it depends on skill of the artist, not the platform. PSX looks cool when it's cartoony like Crash Bandicoot, and bad when it tries to be 'realistic' like MGS.

>>3914946
MGS looks nice to be honest. And it isn't as much trying to be realistic as it has its own videogamey visual style.

>>3914953
I mean, yeah, I personally think MGS1 is one of the cooler looking PSX games, but I tried to be empathetic to OP here. I'm assuming pseudorealism is why OP used MGS and Tomb Raider screenshots to prove his point, and not e.g. Crash or Spyro.

>>3903215
>muh sony is so hardcore!! I love kratos breaaaking stuff!! it makes me less angry when im angry with my mom!!!

>>3903257
god damn i want to fucking kill you.
how wrong can you be in this life? Crash and spyro is the most normie fucking game i've evern seen. Even by today standards sony consoles are normie core as fuck. Chads buying fifa and muhy gamur gurlz playing interactive movies. Sony was the cancer of gaming.

>>3914980
Are you seriously implying that Nintendo isn't the most normie shit of all?


What was SNES?
What was n64?
What was the motherfucking Wii?

Most people today don't even know who Spyro is ffs

>>3914931
Toshinden 3 60 fps mode
Tobal No 1

>>3914980
>accusing someone else of being edgy
>"god damn i want to fucking kill you"

>>3914980
Sony was the breath of fresh air that let devs get out from under the oppressive thumb of Nintendo, faggot.

Nintendo have made nothing but pure trash from the N64 onwards. Sony at least still funds the occasional "hardcore" game.

Of the big 3, ideally I would have liked Sega to be the top dog thanks to their arcade ethos. But Sony is a hell of a lot better than Nintendo by every conceivable metric. Keep playing your literal children's games, I have more respect for the tards that thought TLoU was a good game than I have for people who enjoy imagine babies-tier Mario games, and maybe half a good game every decade.

>>3914987
Maybe because Spyro is a shit series?

>>3915054
yeah

>>3915039
Nintendo excels at being for babies and man children who run away when they see blood because they are immature babyfags and can't handle a deep, dark, serious game like I can. Sega and Sony had games that reflected the inner darkness of my soul from having two Christmases since my parents were divorced, while Nintendo did kiddy shit because nintentoddlers are fucking babies who never had to rough it in high school like real people, like me, who had to deal with bullies and preppy douchebags since they didn't understand my real power...

>>3915039
All Sony did was make cinematic games mainstream you utterly cancerous faggot.

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>>3913389
>It may very well be the most stable 30 frames in the console.
No, MGS has plenty of obvious framerate drops

>>3915268
Goddamn this game blows.

>>3894319
I'm playing kaveri right now XD

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>>3894301
I actually like the low-poly, low-res look nowadays. Gives the games an abstract, surreal feel. Yes, these graphics are ugly by today's standards, but they're kinda charming in a way.

>>3915436
N64 is low res low poly too but it doesn't look like aids. Its that fucking warping texture bullshit that's so disgusting.

>>3894849
>outer kevin

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The only times psx games don't look that outdated is when they're mostly polygons. Games like Crash, Spyro, and Ape Escape.

When you've got polygon objects in the foreground and pre-rendered backgrounds, it's going to look dated. More so with upscaled polygons.

>>3913621
>Nobody cares about BDs when you can download and stream HD with broadband interwebz
which wasn't an option at the time. Just search the oldest youtube videos and admire the "quality"

at most you had the option of downloading SD DVD rips from bit torrent

>>3915023
don't forget tobal no 2, which was in 640x480 as well

>>3917132
>don't forget tobal no 2, which was in 640x480 as well
512x480

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>>3917234
Just like Bubsy 3D

>>3897395
Actually this is beautiful, just fucking beautiful.
They perform polygon subdivision in areas where the perspepective transform would cause texture warping. By using smaller triangles the interpolated coordinates would be in a range that wouldn't cause distortion.

N64 is the ugliest console of all time. Everything looks like some bizzare cubist painting.

>>3919962
Yes we know subdivision helps with texture warping. The point is it wouldn't have warped in the first place and it's also excessive.

>>3919962
Quake II on PSX was a work of programming art. I only wished they had done Quake I while they were there already :(

>>3895168
>>3895193
Fooling no one

>>3898046
My instructor would've given me no credit if I submitted an environment with topography like this.

>>3898368
>>3898374
I had no idea that any PSX games did this. Looking closely at the spiderman photo, it's clear that potions of the roof farther away from the camera have larger polygons. I didn't realize the PSX had the clocks to do that.

>>3920593
It's more forgivable if it's real time.

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Playstation is the most A E S T H E T I C console of its time.

As someone who's a fan of minimalist artwork, I really like early attempts at 3D and low poly graphics in general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so_HQKv-Bmk

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>>3894301
i love how sometimes backgrounds are really just a big giant painting that characters walk on

>>3921487
That's horrible

>>3921487
>>3921492
It's not horrible if he fucking turns off filtering and keeps it at native resolution.

>>3921487
It's a great way to save space on a 700mb+ disc, sure, but Jesus.... What did they do? save it as a third-gen jpeg?

>>3921487
>sometimes
Like every single JRPG on the console uses prerendered backgrounds

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>>3921525

>>3921525
Guardian's Crusade, Legend of Legaia and some others do not.

>>3921506
MPEG1. It's encoded in individual 16x16 blocks. The emulator upsizing (and stupid linear filtering) is causing the seams to show up.

>>3894321
Which Atari sonygger?

>>3920698
I love the way this one looks like

>>3894301
PSX is not a console you nigger

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>>3921708
Same. Everything about all 3 were just right on.
>Low poly
>still maintaining the anime aestetic without sacrificing read-ability
>(good) facial animations
>blocky artstyle translates perfectly
>everything looks cute and lived in

When I think about low poly games that need to inspire new indie ones its this game right here.

>>3921753
Was there games who imitated this look at the time? Now it is pretty popular.

>>3921770
Super Monkey Ball? Ape Escape? Goemon?

I think none looks as charming

>>3921772
Nah, these look nothing like that to me.
Jumping Flash is more low-poly indie game.

>>3894301
Idk I thought the PS2 looked alright

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSX_(digital_video_recorder)

What amount of polygons could be considered as low poly but still be realtively good detailed?

I mean something that looks better than MGS models but still low poly.

>>3921560
Legaia is seriously hideous at times. The very first village is hard on the eyes.

>>3894610
this game was awesome man

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>>3922716
Vagrant Story would be my go-to. Really maximises the PS1's textures and models, every pixel is squeezed for what it's worth and painted intelligently.

Personally my favourite PS1 art style and models belong to Megaman Legends. The models are often bare-bones polygon-wise, particularly the NPCs who are usually walking rectangles, but the art style and textures combine to make what I consider a perfect low-poly aesthetic.

>>3894304
God i love that level.

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You need some Terracon.
https://youtu.be/GA_e5c3XG80?t=5m39s

>>3922903
>>3920698
>>3921770
Not many games used this style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc4Uw0b81dg

And I only know one cel-shaded game, Asterix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukVOjHuBlQg

>>3923296

I don't think Asterix is cel shaded. It looks like the shading is just painted on, like Fear Effect.

>>3923305
I just read that online, not sure either. How about Lucky Luke?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4dUHdn0Lgw

Though, looking at it now, it does seem a whole lot closer to Megaman Legends.

>>3923296
>>3923330
There's no cel-shading on those game at all. Actually Asterix doesn't have any shading, just like the first Megaman Legends.

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What are some 2d pixels in 3d games on ps1? All that comes to mind is klonoa, strider 2, and the BoF games, all of which look great. Though stuff like spyro and mega man legends looks great too.

>>3923367
Battles in SaGa Frontier 1 and 2
Final Fantasy Tactics

>>3923296
>>3923330
Cel shading would be very expensive on PSX, so that's just texturing style and mostly flat shading (quite similar to early PSX games)

>>3923367
Wheels in Crash Team Racing xD

>>3903152
Mipmapping without enough anisotropy looks even uglier to me.

>>3894301
No.
But your mom is.