ITT: Japanese only games we really want translated

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>>3851790
ITT: Im too lazy to learn japanese

>>3851790
None. u mad burger boi?

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Ganbare Goemon 2 and 3.

This is a thread about games in Japanese that we want translated, not about learning Japanese. If you want to learn Japanese, please head on over to the djt in /jp/

Why not learn Japanese? :^)

RIP thread

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I don't give a shit that it's not retro I still want it.

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Pic related

Along with OP's

Aconcagua
Egg
Reikoku - Kizoku Ikeda's Psychics Laboratory
Tokyo Dungeon
...Iru

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF_IvMpMAt8

>>3851923
Like dude said, this is a thread about games you wish were translated not how to read Japanese.

Not all of us murricans have time to take on a second language in between giant bites of burger.

>>3851798
This type of visual mnemonic learning is absolute cancer and if internalized (neural pathways laid down and reinforced) will permanently damage your language aquisition preventing you from ever reaching native fluency.

When you see the number 3 do you look at it and find three horizontal lines and let that give you its meaning? No, it's an abstraction that immediately points your mind to a concept without any intermediate steps. That's how Japanese perceive their written script and how you should install them into your brain.

It's just like mathematics. If the basic foundational building blocks are imprinted wrongly (as ZOG's Common Core curriculum is designed to do), maths will always be slow and tiresome for you.

Avoid this mnemonic garbage at all costs if you really want to read Japanese without assistance.
The verbal version of this (ichy, knee, sun, yawn) is also a threat to your learning.

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Medarot series, comfy as fuck Pokémon-like RPGs that gave birth to the anime known as Medabots in the west. It's a long series, the last game released was the non-retro Medarot 9 on 3DS, but I want to play at least the Game Boy games.

The SNES SaGa games.

Purumui Purumui, cute Playstation RPG done by the Digimon World series (sans the first) developers. Seem to run on the Digimon World 2 or 3 engine.

>>3852032
autistic much? If it helps you memorize something faster whats the problem? I mean kanji is basically a form or pictographs ment to represent the characters meaning. Im just familiarizing myself with the character so I can then understand words and memorize the words. I used mnemonics/flashcards for math as well and it does help memorize boring tedious shit. SOH CAH TOA saved my ass many times.

>>3852069
Isn't this game translated and only needs to be put into the game, which someone is already doing? That means it should be done in about 20 years.

Popolocrois

I don't understand the point of threads like this. Are you hoping someone will see it and decide to pick those games up? If so, you'll be waiting for a long time - certainly much longer than the year or two it takes to become competent enough at Japanese to play any game you want.

>>3851923
Because it's obscenely difficult, I would know because I took some classes.

It's actually easier to read than speak if. Kanji is overblown and once you know what one means it usually sticks but the grammar is jank and the words are really long.

Maybe Soros could put some of his riot money towards promoting Esperanto, his name is in the language after all.

>>3852132
>a year or two
LOL, more like a decade.

>>3852132
I'm a translator. I lurk these threads to see what people are interested in and play games I haven't looked into that other people think could be fun. I probably won't translate 1 in 1000 of the games that people list or talk about, but that's still more than nothing.

I doubt I'm the only one who does this.

>>3852132
i treat them as semi-obscure game threads. there are usually one or two that i didn't know about that look interesting.

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Ghost Sweeper Mikami

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>tfw when I use a variety of sources and tools to make a rough translation of any game I play and type them into a document in hopes that some day later in life, people could romhack them in.

I can read hiragana and katakana, but I only know select few words and phrases, and usually have to wind up looking them up regardless anyways. It's actually kind of teaching me the language as I do this as well.

>>3852156
>translator

>>3852165
translated

The fucking Saturn or Ps1 version of SMT Soul Hackers, fuck.

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There are still multiple Slayers games and only ONE got translated. Barely.

>>3852292
There is this project with a supposedly finished script, but nothing else it seems.

http://esperknight.translationsoftwaretool.com/dungeon-crawler/slayers-pc98-english-translation-project.htm

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>>3852297
Yeah, I know about it

>07/16/2007

Man, this is painful to read. It's bamboozling that there is only one game translated considering how popular Slayers was in the 90s.

>>3852132
They are thinly disguised Japanese learning threads because for undisclosed reasons threads about learning Japanese with retro games get deleted.

Cool thread, reminds me of how I've been learning Japanese since 2010 and as such have been able to play Japanese games for years by now.

Is there someone unhappy about this? Come out, I know you're here.

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>>3852178
It would be more fruitful if you learned the kanji along the way. Words can make more sense if you know their components.
Who wants a translation from somebody with pre-school language skills?

>>3852348
You'd be surprised how many people defend even the shittiest translations. Happens with edited machine translations on Fuwanovel for example.

>>3852348
God damn it, I used to know all these. At least I can still remember the numbers and day of week kanji. Still think of them using Japanese words, not English words, too.

>>3851935
Tell me about it.

Atelier

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>>3852156
B-busted...

Admittantly, I have a couple scripts in-progress, but not being able to touch any of those translations due to helping someone else out with an entirely different project altogether has had me itching for that "new game smell".

It's a dreadfulhabit, but there are a number of games I really want to do.

>>3852373

Reportedly, the guy who retranslated Ar Tonelico 2 is working on Elie&Marie on PS2.

>>3851790
All the SRW games.

>>3852148
>>3851969

goddamnit you fell for 1/10 bait cmon man

>>3852292
Beat me to it

>>3852150
LOL, more like 60-70 years at least before you're even remotely fluent.

>>3852425
These. So fucking much.

>>3852132
I come here mainly to find recommendations of JP only titles to try out.

I'm usually too busy playing porn games to actually get around to playing real games though.

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>>3851790
goty

>>3852563
Hey I can read that

>Welcome... take this!!

I can't figure out what the graphics are meant to be though.

>>3852032
How to learn jap good?

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Damn brehs... this thread has become a daily one

worst thing is no one is posting the two png guides for all the games of interest, people are just posting one by one manually

>>3852571
1. Learn Katakana and Hiragana
2. Start reading a textbook on grammar
3. Learn fundamental vocabulary like the Core 2000.
4. Begin reading Japanese things, add words you don't know to your vocabulary

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>>3852348
I know the numbers, Aka, Mushi, Kawa, Ame, Mizu, Mori, Inu, Hito, Ko, On'na, Naka, Shutsu (or De depending on the context), Kuchi, Mi, Hon, Tsuki, Hi, and Haya off the top of my head. Is that good?

What about SMT2 If...
That fool at AGT has been sitting on it for literal years. And since he has dibs if anyone else tries to translate it there's drama.

>>3853979
Yeah, keep it up until you know about 2500.

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Hunter x Hunter had a Castlevania clone adaptation that never left Japan. It was even developed by Konami.

>>3852361
Don't know much about it, but I loved the first game and the trailers looked promising

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuu0wSWKJFo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz1qNnmEHNs

>>3852348
damnit I can only recognize around 1/6th of these.

There's a bunch there I know from video games, which are more advanced, but it's really off putting to see how many Grade 1 kanji I DO NOT know.

games with too many words

smts (eat shit, gideon)
ateliers

>>3852281
the original devil summoner is probably a better choice since there has never been any localization of it

>>3853995

This. Japanese is ridiculous

>>3851790
99% of the SRW franchise.

>>3854430
You can learn 2000 kanji in 3 months. And that's not as a NEET autismo, that's an hour of work a day.

>>3852050
>The SNES SaGa games
You mean the Romancing games? Pretty sure 1 got a fan translation recently, 3 had another translation in the works (not sure if it was finished), and 2 had an official English translation for the mobile version's release and there was supposed to be a Vita release as well.

>>3852050
My friend is obsessed with this series. He can read a little japanese, and plays a ton of them.

They seem really fun.

>>3851790
>games we really want translated
FUCKING
ALL
OF
THEM

>>3854660
Except pedoshit of course.

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>>3851790

>>3854695
Any specific titles you have in mind so I can translate them just to spite you.

>>3854702
But what if that's the plan all along?

Basically all Kunio-kun games need a faithful translation/adaptation.

Every saturn rpg and every cool jap saturn game we didnt get in america

>>3854002
This is weird in so many ways, one thing is a "Castlevania-like" game, other thing is literally a Castlevania reskin with HxH characters.

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Translation never ever

>>3852575
>doesnt post it himslef
Why do you love to watch us suffer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kPG3IdBd1k

>>3855249
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, bruh! That game looks so damned COMFY!!

Also, the only games that come to mind which I really would like to see translated are those games in the Brandish and Metal Max series which have not yet gotten a translation. I think there may be projects in progress though...

>>3855316
the first one for snes got an english release but not US. Its damn good

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Dr. Slump

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>>3855457
this

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>>3854702
Go nuts

Yakata: Nightmare Project
season of twilight
spriggan luna birth
Kowloon's Gate
Community Pom
Linda
Ateliers

BLOODY PRINCESS CROWN HOLY SHIT

I've been on a PS1 kick lately

Burger Burger

That one jrpg-racing hybrid from 4 or 5 generation.

Popolocrois
Ore no Shikabane
Linda cubed
Gunparade March
Non-localized Megami Iburoku Persona
Romancing SaGa 2 (fuck playing on a phone)
Moonlight Syndrome

>>3855941
>Moonlight Syndrome
Why would you want the third game in a series?

That said you and I are on similar wavelengths in PS1 tastes

Is the PSP version of Popolocrois different? I have that one

>>3852069

It's already happening

>>3855947
The PSP version of Popolocrois is abridged, but don't let that bother you. They're mediocre RPGs on both platforms.

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>>3851790
Aconcagua
Mizurna Falls
the entire Boku no Natsuyasumi saga
I hope they get translated before I´m 30

>>3855979
Yeah I didn't think it was anything special

>>3855947

I know, but it's also the first game in the Kill The Past series. Moonlight Syndrome apparently pissed fans off so much they just rectoned it as some nightmare the cast had, to some extent.

>>3855996
I did not know that. Time to do some reading. You have an article?

>>3856003

http://killer7.fr.yuku.com/forums/2/GHM/GHM

Dig through here and you'll find something to the extent I've written explain more thoroughly. Grasshopper info is pretty scarce outside they're le ebin meme games, so 'fraid I can't help you.

>>3856015
This board looks so strange anon, guess I'll look around

What meme game? Silver Case?

>>3854603

1 has a complete translation, 2 is available in english on phones AND the SNES version is still in the works (despite what everyone assumed, Aeon Genesis does still have it in the works, he's posted about it recently). 3 also has a retranslation in the works.

The best part is that the same fan translator did the scripts for all 3 of these projects, so there will be good internal consistency between them.

>>3855987

1 hour of JP practice a day would let you play all that and more before you turn 30.

>>3851798
フフー 笑

これはままと思います。
お勉強ことが頑張ってね。

日本語のは簡単ですけど、同じで難しいです。

>>3852156
>>3852420
The guy who translated 46 Okunen Monogatari also browses these, I remember him always posting about it.

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>>3851790

>>3856138
Still here. Busy with our current projects (Rusty, CRW, and Appareden) and actual work.

Not too many people have PC-98 requests in these threads due to no one really knowing what they want besides VNs and Adventure games, which I don't care about.

>>3856178
w-what about giten megami tensei

>>3856178
>VNs and Adventure games, which I don't care about.
Tfw no translators handle the shit that actually needs translation to understand

>>3856178
>VNs and Adventure games, which I don't care about

aka the majority of the shit people want from the Japanese computer scene?

>>3856182
>>3856189
RPGs are what I care about, and I have a list of possibles that would be really good to do in the future if we can find the time. Pretty sure those take Japanese to understand and enjoy as well.

>>3856180
Apparently the Windows version released later is superior to the PC-98 version, which knocks it off our list for the time being since we're trying to focus on PC-98 exclusives or where the PC-98 version is the best one.

>>3856190
>Apparently the Windows version released later is superior to the PC-98 version
meh, it has all the usual 90's windows game bullshit

anyway rusty would be nice

Anyone know if King's Field 1 and 2 are playable in nip? I like the JP cover of 2 more than the NA one.

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>>3856193
Pretty far along on Rusty. We're doing our internal beta testing and I'm in the process of gathering materials to create the trailer as well as finish the manual translation. Swamped with real work at the moment which is slowing down progress, but it's pretty far along.

> meh, it has all the usual 90's windows game bullshit

Can't be as bad as the Windows ports for the Record of Lodoss War games. Pic related.

>>3852575
Yeah I would much rather have a thread of someone posting two image guides and then 300 posts of YOULL NEVER LEARN JAPANESE, YOU SHOULD JUST LEARN JAPANESE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
than people posting and talking about videogames

>>3852156
I dont know how to get started. how do you even extract the text, is it done manually?

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>>3855847
Is Chip-chan Kick the only untranslated retro title?
There's also the later MM titles but Arle isn't a cute girl in those.

>>3856693
At least a third of the games on there aren't translated.

>>3856095
Lies, you can't learn Japanese.

>>3856193
>>3856221
What's so bad about those ports?

>>3856737
giten flat out looks like shit and everything is tied to your CPU's speed

hard as fuck to get to run on recent windows versions i heard

>>3855847
Most of the games aren't retro from what I see.

>>3852575
Maybe because I've named shit that wasn't on the pngs? This setup is better anyways, it allows for discovery

>>3856737
For the Lodoss War games, the Windows ports are the best versions as they contain extra story and proper continuity with the books, as well as higher quality artwork.

The only problem is visible in the screenshot I posted. That terrible windows theme. Each of the in-game windows use the base Windows theme. It looks pretty terrible when previous versions had their own window border theme going.

Even the confirmation dialogs are basically just Windows error messages and shit. It's like you're playing a spreadsheet or something.

>>3852032
That's some Edgar tier shit you've got there.

>>3852069
oh gawd yes

Bulk Slash

>>3851790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eStVBHbSazw

>>3856950
>and proper continuity with the books
What's the point? Lodoss never had a fixed continuity with replay, novel, manga and anime all featuring their own take on the events and characters
The original computer games were crucial in shaping the world and the pen and paper releases.

Do you have a download for the Windows version? I wanted to play it when I'm done with the novels.

>>3857438
Game 1: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ceffdov3c5084o7/RLW.7z
Game 2: http://www.mediafire.com/file/2cd07uv8n40nq8p/RLW2.7z

I have no idea what would be necessary to run these in any kind of normal way. I got them running by fucking around and installing Windows 95/98 to an HDI and running that in NP2. Stupid, but ultimately a pretty amusing way to do it. Let me know if you figure out a proper way to do it with VMWare or something.

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>>3857456
Got it to run on 64-bit Windows 7 but it crashed in a fight.
It does seem to run fine in XP-mode.

Best PS1 modchip/parallel port addon for importing/playing backups?

>>3857569
literally any gameshark can be rewritten to do it these days. If you want something that works out of the box though I have a "Game Enhancer" series one. Comes with the spring and everything.

>>3857569
I have a Game Enhancer 9 to be exact, but they're all about the same. Average 10-15 USD on ebay

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>>3857456
Where did you get these originally? I was about to ask for them too.

>>3857595
I found them over at the Tokugawa Corp forums. No idea where this guy found them, though.

http://fullmotionvideo.free.fr/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1655

>>3857616
Hmm, then perhaps he's the original source. I mostly wondered if there's some website with uploads like this that I didn't know about yet.

>>3856095
yes, except I am interested in those games, not in learning japanese.
Should I learn russian just because some movies don't get subs? or should I learn korean because I want to understand some k-pop album?
I already talk three languages, and I use them for real life tasks. If I had to learn a full language for every bit of foreign culture I want to bite I should be expending all my fucking time and money on it.
Is it really hard to understand?

>>3857643
>every bit of foreign culture I want to bite
How much do you like Russian movies? How much time a day do you spend listening to k-pop?

>>3857616
I wish there was a better archive for all those Japanese Windows games.
There are way too many dead links.

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> tfw translation 'almost done' for years

>>3857725
Is this a Plok RPG?

>>3857752
Similarity is purely coincidental. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon:_Remix_RPG_Adventure

>>3857752

You made that joke last thread.

>>3857761
Wasn't me, dude! Wasn't me!

>>3852050
Well, last I checked, the first game is getting fanslated. Now all I want is the rest of the games, ESPECIALLY DS, as well as a delocalized Medarot 2 Core GBA patch (the only mainline Medarot game the West got under the title "Medabots")

>>3857671
I've watched a lot of Mosfilm production due to my career, and even though half of them were not translated, I would´t consideren learn cyrillic ONLY for that purpose.
Studying a language is a complex thing. You only invest in it if you find it useful.

>>3857671
How much do I like japs games that don´t have a translation?
5-6 games. So no, I won´t fucking learn japanese for that. If you would in this situation is your problem pal, not mine.

>>3857923
i want to play ys 2 special

therefore that means i should learn korean!!11

>>3852050
>Purumui Purumui
aaa someone else knows it. It isn't what you'd call "super" but it's enjoyable enough and very cute. DW2 engine.

>>3851835
This. Apparently Goemon 2 translation is getting a release this year. That dude on romhacking has been putting it off for years and I already lost all hope, keeping my fingers crossed.

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>>3857963
>ctrl-f "Boku no Natsuyasumi"
>only 1 result

translaterfags and really everyone in general needs to know how comfy this game is. it's literally a summer vacation simulator set in '70s Japan.

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>>3857980

>>3857980
I watched a translated LP on youtube of the first one

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>>3857993
the let's play format interferes with the simulation too much for me.

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such gorgeous art direction. this was a late ps1 title, released after the ps2 had already come out.

>>3851835
Goemon 2 was a great game. I really wonder what those rabbit suit weirdos where saying.

I highly doubt we'll ever get Goemon 3 though. that game was too text heavy.

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>>3858032
last one.

>>3854002
they made a few with shaman king as well i think.
that was on gba though

>>3854595
it's pretty cool that they actually started doing it themselves lately.

>>3857948
And way better than DW2 or 3. The sound engine is also the same, with the same samples and sound effects. Same birds chirping.

>>3856950
Are the PC Engine Lodoss games the same games?

>>3857725
One AND Two AND Three AND Four AND One AND Two AND Three AND Four AND....

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>>3857917
How lazy are you that you won't even learn Cyrillic?

>>3858445
They are at least based on them unlike the Mega CD, SFC, GB or DC games.

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>>3851790
I'm not here to bitch about lack of translations (my Jap is good enough for most games, they generally don't require that high proficiency).

I'm just here to post this nice map I found in a n old archived thread. As you may have guessed, it's from Nerawareta Machi.

>>3852079
Most of them are translated on PSP compilation, aren't they?

>>3859145
Hence why it's ridiculous that he can't even learn that.
I've learned whole alphabets just to play one game.

>>3858583
lazy your ass. I already talk english, french, spanish, and I'm on my way with german. And no, I don't gonna learn japanese for games, because I don't want to know how to talk in japanese, I only want those games in english, french, or spanish.
Now stop shitposting m8.

>>3852032
>does not understand it is a joke
>also uses "ZOG" unironically

Well...

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>>3859149
of course anon, because once you change cyrillic with latin alphabet, you can understand it! russian is just english with runes!
fucking newfags

>>3859160
I'm not saying that. But it's a trivial effort to learn at least the script so you can read names, signs and the like. Half of the letters are identical to the Latin script.

>>3859152
>because I don't want to know how to talk in Japanese
You don't have to in order to play the games. You only need to be able to read it.

>>3857980
>>3857984
>>3858024
>>3858026
>>3858032
>>3858037
I´m the anon who suggested it in the first place. I discovered it in /vr/ some time ago and could't believe how comfy the concept was.

>the let's play format interferes with the simulation too much for me.

mostly this. even tought the guy plays quietly, is the kind of game you want to play by yourself, with your own pacing.

>>3859172
>>3859175
the thing is there's a factual difference between playing games in a language you are able to read and understand in a "passive" way, and games that you "have to" focus on translating instead of playing.
What I want experience is the first option. that needs a translation.
What the second option need is learning well the language, and I don't want to because I don't find jap useful for my life.
What you suggest (not learning well the idiom and play the game focusing on the idiom) is shittier for me that don't playing the game at all.
Is this really THAT hard to understand?

>>3859187
>(not learning well the idiom and play the game focusing on the idiom)
This is hard to understand.

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>>3859187
At least learn Cyrillic.

Things I want to see translated before I die:
Hateao
Guardian Recall
Night Slave
Twilight Syndrome

>>3859207
Why not Yuuyami Doori Tankentai?

>>3859208
Well yeah, that too

>>3856119
what the fuck are you trying to say

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The chinese-only Windows port of Suikoden II. It has higher-resolution graphics than the PS version.

It would also be nice if someone translated the port of the first two Suikoden games for PSP, but it is pretty similar to the PS versions.

>>3859187
Plus the fact that you can't even manage basic English means you're never gonna be able to handle Japanese.

>>3859187
>games that you "have to" focus on translating instead of playing.
Sorry but you are absolutely clueless. This simply stops being an issue after you get past the initial beginner stage, even (and especially, given how different it is to any Western language) with a language as complex as Japanese.

Segagaga on Dreamcast.

>>3860262
The guy have mistakes with grammar but he actually tries to explain himself properly, wich is quite admirable.
I'll pay to see you babbling in french, spanish or wichever is anon's native language.

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This game honestly doesn't look that amazing judging from the one gameplay video I've been able to find, but I'd love to try it out just to see how Technosoft tried there hand at RPG's.

>>3860474
Project harder sport. Spanish is one of the languages I actually studied in school and I picked up even more on my own. I'm even American so you can't blame it on me just being born in one of the nearly 200 other countries where speaking multiple languages is common.
FYI, since you'll probably never learn another language I'll give you a protip that can help you look like less of a fool in the future. Speaking fluently in a language is difficult. Typing in a language, with spell check, grammar check, time to proof read, etc is a fucking piece of piss.
Epic whiteknighting faggotry fail dingus.

>>3855928
it was PS1 and it's Racing Lagoon, all of my want senpai. You can play Final Lap Twin on TG16 but the races are simple like pole position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSybTxwXvJI

Baroque for PS

>>3860752
Funny you took Spanish in school but don't have the balls to write paragraphs in it. Either way, that's a stupid argument. This is 4chan, not a college paper, so typos don't really matter and you're only showing off your pretention but getting smug and using the other anon's so-called shortcoming to boost your own pretention.

Don't get into some pissing contest to make yourself feel better about sitting on your elitest ass for the past 7 years.

>>3859208

Yuuyami is sort of a mess on the inside. There's a good 1200 pics of font setups in varying orders that is too time-consuming to write up a tool to match up(probably impossible anyway as the font is so illustrative all the way through).

Only way it would be made readable in a hex editor in the next 6 years would be for someone to volunteer to make said tables.

>>3861101
>This is 4chan, not a college paper, so typos don't really matter and you're only showing off
Sure they do. We may call each other faggots but we still care about form.

>>3860752
Muéstranos tus conocimientos!

>>3861176
Don't you have to start with an inverted exclamation mark?

>>3861103
>>3859208

What the fuck
Damn, that game is supposed to be pretty good too

>>3861181
Sólo si eres un tocacojones profesional.

This chain of bullshit is why we say take your language learning things elsewhere. I can only report so many posts.

>>3861192
>7. Submitting false or misclassified reports, or otherwise abusing the reporting system may result in a ban. Replying to a thread stating that you've reported or "saged" it, or another post, is also not allowed.

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>>3857963
Speaking of lost hopes...

>>3861323
"I SWEAR ITS STILL COMING GUYS"

Fuck that guy

>>3861185
I was asked to take a look at it sometime at the very beginning of the year maybe, but it's legitimately a big mess that it would be a serious undertaking.

Someone else offered to take a look at it and also gave it an immediate, nah, life's too short.

>>3861382
RIP Maybe someone will do a subbed lets play or something

>>3861387
Honestly assumed one was started. Sad to hear there isn't one though. I just have 6+ projects slowly cookin as is so more power to whoever gets that font chiseled out.

>>3859634
As far as I recall, the files on the PSP ISO are the PSX isos, so basic patching could be done for it.

I'll try taking a stab at it at some point.

Since we're in it, my main machine is a Mac, anybody got emulators with debuggers? Cannot find anything that wouldn't require me to install Windows

>>3861479
Cool! I think PPSSPP has a Mac version and a debugger.

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>>3851923
But I am!
Grammar is ass fucking me and turning me gay

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>>3861176
>!
lel
¿Por qué?

>>3861801
What part of the grammar do you find particularly difficult?

>>3862124
It's hard to explain
I can get the gist of what someone is trying to say because of the kanji, but trying to find what exactly what it was he said is hard because of all the different conjunctions, conjugates and different grammar rules.
Though reading (which I am doing) will make this go away eventually

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>>3856734
You don't even know English.

>>3852032
How am I supposed to learn math then?

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>>3861323
Why do this, anon? Why remind me?

>>3862332
lel >>3862069

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>>3851790
Madou Monogatari would be nice, or any of the old Puyo Puyo games.

>>3860856
You're better off asking for the Saturn version, PS is basically a port of that which makes it very complicated to work on

>>3861395
>I just have 6+ projects slowly cookin as is
Wouldn't it be more effective to concentrate on a single one or are you waiting for progress from others?

>>3862462
Ports do get pretty complicated, but PSX games have a huge lead due to more reading and emulator/debugger resources attached to the system.

Saturn is very untouched ground in comparison, so it's even harder to troubleshoot anything.

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>>3854002
>Some people said you don't need the text to play this

Fuck you I'm currently going crazy with the locked doors and shit. The game's pretty fun though.

>>3863015

It's a mixture of both. Sometimes playable drafts help just in chiseling out stuff I need to look for and finally see how stuff is used. Sometimes text takes a long time to find/dump/reinsert/fix any major bugs. It's a lot of back and forth.

I'm also trying to delve a bit into editing PSP graphics to help push things along, but even those can be tedious to extract/reinsert.

Sometimes when I finish a main storyline or a full draft of a script after several weeks of nothing bit, I just want to look at literally anything except for that game or script for a while, so I either go back to an older project and start tinkering with that, or I look at a new project.

It's not as efficient, but I wouldn't be nearly as productive if I just burned out in 1 project and never finished. I myself just don't work that way.

>>3863072
Do you play games or is the danger too big that you'd start translating them as well?

>>3863082
I play a lot less for simple, stress-free leisure, but translating has given me a much bigger appreciation for well-done English translations.

I was interested in helping someone doing Atelier Ellie+Marie on Ps2. No one was biting at the time and I love Koihime Ohse's art. While I couldn't make any promises, I went and picked up the Arland and Dusk series (Ayesha Plus was out for maybe a couple months at the time), and I've played all of them and I'm even taking a Sophie break right now.

Another more capable translator(I think it was the guy who did the Ar Tonelico 2 retranslation) picked up the project in the meantime, but I do think I got something out of it.

That said, the Ui editing in Atelier games is a fucking mess.

>>3863082

Oh, you meant playing JP games. Hmmm... Yeah, that's actually a super dangerous part of it. I dont replay a lot of games but will get the itch to play/translate something hardcore when it pops up on my music playlist.

I listen to a lot of game osts when I work because they don't have any words to get me mixed up when I'm trying to read and write.

It's mostly psx and dreamcast...other portable things. I have a ps2 game almost done even, but I don't have a tv anymore and my laptop doesn't have the power to run the disc, so until I can buy a cheapo tv to play, I haven't considered other ps2 games that I also like. Plus, ps2 games are super untouched upon in the romhacking com that there aren't a lot of resources in case skmething goes wrong.

>>3863117
>ps2 games are super untouched upon in the romhacking com that there aren't a lot of resources in case skmething goes wrong.
What platforms are actually developed in that regard? SFC, FC, GB and MD?

>>3863121
Snes/nes for sure. You see a lot of translations for those two in general. Gba and gb seem like they're in good hands as well.

Psp, ndd and psx tend to have healthier crowds too. Still, with those ones, you're going to run into some sort of anti-piracy gimmeck that may not make them the most beginner-friendly. Still, gbatemp has awesome resources for those curious about handheld romhacking specifically. Most handheld game translation patches stem from that forum.

Borderline nonexistent crowds include N64, Saturn, PC-Engine, Ps2+Gamecube, and I don't think I see a whole lot for Genesis? I never did check for any though.

>>3863131
>Borderline nonexistent crowds
I've only seen a couple PS2 translations and most of them were never finished. I don't really know why, PS2 was the top selling console, you'd think more people would be interested in translation

Also I'd say PSP and NDS are way "easier" than gba, at least in my experience.

>>3863165
They're definitely easier due to hiw accessable the file structure is. Very easy to extract and parse through file types. Gba doesn't have that luxury at all. It's also why I don't bother with snes games, and there's only one gba game I've found that ever just had all the game's text sitting out in the open in the hex editor.

Plus, gba has a really bad text limit dur to the screen size and all that. Really no room for customization and fucking with the vwf like in games on other systems.

If you get a chance, I greatly enjoyed Shadow Tower Abyss, and I do think the Ar Tonelico 2 retranslation is out now.

>>3863131
The only ones from the borderline that actually has enough games worth translating are PC-Engine and Saturn. PS2 doesn't have that many JP games that require translation and Gamecube and N64 maybe have 1 both

>>3863193
I think that's mostly a matter of taste. I think the PS2 has a lot of untapped games in its JP library. That said the Saturn suffered a legitimately crippled release and lifespan. Fortunately there are ports of a hot number of games initially released on it, but the exclusives could use some love.

>>3863193
There are translations beyond Japanese -> English.

>>3863223

Also this. Been really happy about some spanish and french translations popping up for much older games.

>>3863036
I'm just going based off of https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/257543-persona-2-innocent-sin/49492899?page=2 Post #28 here

>>3863193
>PS2 doesn't have that many JP games that require translation
IM FUCKING PLYING

Whatever happened to Sakura Wars? People have been waiting for a translation of that classic forever, since the days of 90's fansites like Ming's http://web.archive.org/web/20000303161243/http://pei.physics.sunysb.edu/~ming/anime/sakura.html

>>3851790
love this stuff

>>3863585
I don't know, considering a translation has existed on gamefaqs since about 1999

>>3863585
Iwakura productions' Wordpress has some updates about the pc version of the first game. I think they're at like 30%?

Eternal Punishment Portable ;_:

>>3864669
The guys who said they'd work on it are almost finished Madoka, so maybe they'll get to it soon \o/

>>3864347
> May 28, 2016
>Just got a new scenario update. It’s sitting at somewhere between 40-50% complete, and we have a new organizational method, so expect things to progress faster from here.

>February 8, 2017
>Translation is maybe 40% done. Stay tuned.

>>3860628
lol, Feels like I've found the only other bloke on /vr/ who knows and cares about Neorude. It's got a decent soundtrack I suppose, and some neat puzzle stuff.

>>3864841
>1 year passes
>No percentage increase
Translators need to start patreons or some shit so some of these 10 year projects actually get done

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>>3865132
That worked so well. Three baby level titles nobody cared about and nothing since then.

DManufacture, are you out there? Your work on Megami Tensei II is next level and incredibly exciting.

>>3865140
This was an obvious scam from the start.

>>3865140
I'm just frustrated anon. Some of these projects have gone on so long I could have learned Japanese in the time it took them to get to 30%

>>3865158
Would you regret learning it if they actually finished?

>>3865163
No, not at all, I want to stop relying on waiting years to play shit. I just don't know how to start. /jp/ just memes about anki all day every day but that seems like a bad starting point

>>3865170
Obviously the first step is going to learn the two syllabaries.
Anki is good for learning vocabulary and you can learn kanji together with the vocabulary.
Whether you invest 10, 30 or 60 minutes per day is up to you but it definitely helps to keep a regular pace.
Once you've got 100 hours massed up you can start reading for real.

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Growlanser 1 for PS1.

There is an story script on GFs but i would like to play it in english on the console.

Langrisser 3&5. Same deal with Growlanser .

Sonata PS1. Its an RPG were your gf dissapears and you go on 3 diferent worlds (Fantasy, High School, Futuristic) and meet several girls, whoever you get in the end is the gf you lost (In the opening cinematic the gf is faceless and there is no one in the cast that resembles her so everyone can be her).

Sonata has a guide for fantasy and high school but not the futuristic scenario.

Mitsumete Knight and R. Its basically Tokimemo but in an european fantasy setting. Fun fact: you get to fight Rocket Knight and beating him unlocks the NG+ shop.

>>3865181
>you can start reading for real.
People say this but never say what good beginning reading is. Something like 4koma or childrens manga?

5 fucking captchas in a row REEEEEEE

>>3865220
Texts in textbooks?
Yotsuba?

>>3865194
Growlanser 3 and 5 WERE translated though, anon. Growlanser 3 was packaged with 2 in the Generations bundle for PS2, and 5 was also for PS2.

>>3865220
Yes, (shounen) manga with furigana is a decent choice.
For retro games RPGs on SFC, PCE-CD, PS1 or Saturn.
Basically anything that's not too complicated or demanding and gives you some context to work with.

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>>3865581
Thats why i said Growlanser 1 (There is also 6 but i dont think PS2 are retro).

Langrisser its the sister series, Growlanser was like the spiritual succesor. Thats why they share the same artist.

>>3863543
name 15 (fifteen) games

>>3865619
Growlanser is pretty much a continuation of Langrisser as a different IP. That's why NCS, who were the copyrights holder of Langrisser, made Langrisser Millennium on Dreamcast with a different team and artist.

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The game that revolutionized maps with branching parallel worlds.

>>3866072
Well they actually play too diferent to be a continuation since Growlanser plays more like an RTS with RPG and Langrisser is an straight up SRPG.

>>3865619
>Growlanser 1 for PS1.
>There is an story script on GFs but i would like to play it in english on the console.
>[Langrisser 3&5. Same deal with Growlanser .]

Not an unreasonable assessment for me to make that you were talking about Growlanser 3 and 5 as well, with that wording. Now that it's clearer, I cede the point.

>>3866206
Do you want a translation of the PC98 or Saturn versions? That still does all the stuff of the Windows patch?
Maybe you'll even get a translation for the remake that was released this week.

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>>3866621
The remake is apparently getting localized, but it looks like shit.

>>3866621
Either versions that isn't the remake (the new character designs are rather dull, I find, especially Yuuki's, who looks more like a girl now)

>>3866638
I agree, the background art looks great, the remixed OST is so-so but the new character designs really are what's bothering me...

>>3866710
What's wrong with the Windows port? Wasn't it playable via Wine?
Saturn and PC98 modding is barely developed, you might have better success implementing the game in SCUMM-VM.

>>3865220
There is a DJT on both /int/ and /jp/, /int/ismore helpful if you don't really use /jp /much. Both DJT's have a a link in the op that takes you to the guide and also has a reccomendation list for Japanese stuff to read at any level.

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>>3852050
Guy who beat Medarot 1-5 here. Great series.

Couldn't get into the non GB/C games but the first five games, especially 2-4 are all pretty fucking good.

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>>3851806
Frig off.

>>3866543
Sorry english is not my first language :/

Thats the best i can do with only learning it from movies and videogames.

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Can still manage to play without translation, but regardless would still be nice.

>>3867197

Fuck off, Randy.

Some of the Original Fire emblems would be nice.
I know the first one got a Translation on GBA, but the Third one is what I'm hoping for.


I more-so want a modern game to be translated however
the new FF Dissida arcade game.

>>3867210
This was translated years ago.

>>3867248
I meant official localization.

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>>3865194
Same regarding Growlanser 1 but on PSP for the new contents.

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>>3867373
I played the PSP version but couldn't bring myself to beat it. 20-ish hours in.

It's great but the combat can get repetetive once in a while. I like the characters but just don't care enough to keep going now that I hit an annoying wall.

>>3867387
Well, its the first one after all, a little bit slow on times, unlike Growlanser 4.

I already finished Growlanser 1 in PS1, I wish it is easy to go for the other endings like 4 but 1 (and 5 as well) requires you to make a choice around 3/4 of the game, which is quite tedious.

>>3866740
I meant the 2017 Remake.
The Windows Port is my favourite version for how it used the Saturn's voice acting with the PC-98 artstyle.

>>3867373
I would had saay PSP but we are on /vr/ so thats why i said PS1.

>>3867387
Thats a shame, i have at least beaten this gam 5 times, mainly because you have to beat the whole thing if you want to add a girl ending into the gallery.

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>>3867394
PSP version has an added route which more or less requires you to play the game from the first quarter, as far as I can tell. Like I said, I haven't actually beaten it.

It's hard to tell, some battles were a blast and some battles were just a bore. It's unique, I'll give you that. Also requires you to use your head sometimes since you can't just heal and attack when there's objectives like in this game.

>>3867397
If I tried playing now I probably won't remember anything anyway. Last time I played was a few months back.

Misha is the best.

>>3867402
Whats the last thing you remember from the game?

Might reconsider if you are near the end?

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>>3867407
Like I said, around 20 hours in and it feels like I've got a long way. I'm after the part where the three nations enter war and right now I'm doing an escort quest through the forest, each screen you move is full of monsters and in the end there's a guy that summons the monsters using scent.

Now, I got really fucking pissed because I cleared like five screens of monsters and the entire last map but the fucker ran away when I was one hit away from killing him, and obviously the last save was before all this bullshit.

>Might reconsider if you are near the end?
I guess so. I hope I haven't deleted the game yet.

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MOMMY PLEASE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-jy9fMUfkI

>>3867419
Sounds like you arent really that long into the game since that part its like disc 1 in the PS1 game.

If the mission is to kill the monster tamer then just cast lots of magic on him, if you build MC with decent magic stats he and Ruise should get on it (Bring Misha if you can as well).

>>3867419
Whats your party setup when you fight him?

Hope Carmine is fast enough to catch up to that monster tamer. I usually cast quick to him and manually control him via move so that he would not waste too much time.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwXg4nDqBEg

A translation of this, along with Mizzurna Falls, would make me happy for a long time.

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>>3867434
>>3867435
Well, I was close enough that if I do the stage again I'd beat it without thinking too much, it's just that I lost motivation.

Party set up is Melee Protagonist, Wallace, Misha and Ruise. Might have been using Karen, can't recall.

>>3866842
Are the games connected in any way story wise or could you just start anywhere?

>>3866842
I played most of the games even though I can't understand Japanese. I got to the end of 1 (Perfect Edition, on the Wonder Swan), 2, 2 Parts Collection, 3 Parts Collection, 4 and 5 on GB, Navi, 2 Core(the only one who got an official translation) and G on GBA and R Parts Collection on Playstation. I'm almost at the end on Shingata (1 GBA remake) and at the half of R on Playstation.
My favourite one was 2, that's usually regarded as the best game on the series.

>>3861323
i really hate gideon, but i'm afraid to talk shit about him since he will stall the game even longer if he sees it.

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>>3867454
Well, it goes like this. First game is the Hikari game and it's stand-alone for the most part. Wonderswan version is the best version featuring high details sprites and portraits.

2-4 are the Ikki games, they're placed a few years after the first game but it's not like you have to play it to understand anything. It's just cooler because you know Hikari is a badass. It's not recommended to play any of these games out of order because of reoccuring characters and gameplay improvments that would make reverting harder. Medarot 2 actually got an updated remake on the GBA which is also the only Medarot RPG localized.

Medarot 5 is a sad story, devolopment cut early and they had to ship the game so despite having a lot of potential it's pretty incomplete and it feels like it. Still reccomended if you can.

>>3867483
Fun fact, but the localized version of G (Medarot AX) is pretty much a different game. They switched the entire cast and bots to fit the anime that was aired in the US so instead of Koishimaru and the other guys you get Ikki.

>>3863237
>>3863223
>caring about any other language for a fan translation than English

>>3867626
That's because AX isn't a localized version of G. It's a different game on the same engine made for the western market, and it actually was released before G.
I hate it.

>>3867635

You know, I once read here that a Brazilian guy made an English fan-translation for a Japanese game.

I don't know what game, but results were apparently... predictable.

All I'm saying is, as an american: check your English language primacy because it can backfire, in hilarious ways.

Tomato adventures on GBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>3867635
Aren't Chinese translations pretty common?

>>3867689
Yes, very.

>>3867426

Not gonna lie I have wanted to translate The Witch of Salzburg. (I have also looked at Yadaka which was brought up in this thread earlier). Not enough horror translations out there but there's still a lot of other shit on que. Maybe next year.

>>3867396
The voice acting isn't really part of the Windows version tho, just something people patched in from the Saturn data

>>3867197
Fuck off cheeseburger walrus.

>>3859257
He said that Japanese is easy, but difficult at the same time.

>>3863538
I never thought about this, and that's pretty interesting. Thanks.

>>3868768
>easy, but difficult.

really powers my cpu

>>3867210
buy the Aliexpress cart that has english

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>>3868458
I wish I could contribute to something like this. Thanks for even thinking about it. Please make it known if you ever start on Witch of Salzburg.

>>3868768
But what did he mean by ungrammatical constructions like
>これはままと思います。
>お勉強ことが頑張ってね。
>日本語のは簡単ですけど、同じで難しいです。

>>3867220
Where I can find the first one?

>>3855941
>Megami Iburoku Persona
There is PSP version.

>>3857980
I've seen too much anime to care about that kind of shit.

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For some reason, I've been hooked on Possessioner. I can't read moon for shit, but the game is quite pleasant to look at and listen to.

>>3875240
It got translation promised on that KS. I wouldn't hope too much though.

>>3865132
If that happens they will do even less work because now they got people by the balls knowing they'll be scared to drop funding in case they really are working on it.

>>3875667
You can't say something's a bad idea because a few people will abuse it. That's why you if you think they're doing that, then you drop your funding and move on with your life. It's a simple concept.

>>3875829
>You can't say something's a bad idea because a few people will abuse it.
Few is an understatement.

For instance in the adult games side of things patreon has become an scam were devs miss deadlines all the time and updates are meagers ammount of content.

You can count with a finger how many of them are complete or at least a sizeable ammount of play time.

>>3856119
TLDR
日本語は難し過ぎて、このワープロ馬鹿は何も分らない。

boku no natsuyasumi ALL OF THEM

I'm actually playing 4 currently but not knowing japanese its taken sometime.

What I do is take a screen shot of the game text,
run it through an ocr program,
fix any mistakes,
google translate the japanese
and then mess around until it becomes understandable.

Honestly it's a half decent process. It means pausing everytime there is text for 1-5 minutes while I do all that but it allows me to play and to understand what is being said 99% of the time and really get into the game.

>>3851790
Garage

>>3852032
I agree. there are no easy shortcuts, you just have to study. the kana aren't even that difficult -- you can get familiar in 1-2 weeks. it'll take longer to master them and read quickly, but that's part of the process.

common core is also cancer for the same reason, as you pointed out. fortunately it's headed for the dustbin of history, but I don't want to get off-topic.

>>3877026
You are so close to actually learning Japanese but instead you choose to screw up and waste your time and effort.

>>3852150
Not true. It might take a decade before you stop sounding like an obvious foreigner in conversations, but you can easily reach a point where you're able to read any /vr/ game in 2 years, with the possible exception of visual novels that have a lot of niche (e.g. scientific or historical) vocabulary in them.

>>3877563
>with the possible exception of visual novels that have a lot of niche (e.g. scientific or historical) vocabulary in them.
You can read them just fine. The only problem can be that you acquire too much new vocabulary at once.

>>3877563
>tfw 6 years ago I said 2 years would take too long
>6 years passed and I've done nothing

>>3858583

This. Cyrillic's easy as shit. Japanese though...eh

>>3861801

Why is all that text necessary...holy shit

>>3873262
some of the scenes that were remade as 3D animation i preferred as in-engine cutscenes with sprites, and the new soundtrack is significantly different from the original. fortunately meguro immediately realized his mistake and didn't change nearly as much in the persona 2 ports.
not that anon but i'd like to see a fan TL of the old playstation/windows version, and experience the beginning of the series closer to how moon people have.
related: SMT if

>>3852420
dsfargeg

>>3879417
Enjoy your ban :^)

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>>3879495
the title is tomato adventure. that's a start.

>>3863117
>I have a ps2 game almost done even, but I don't have a tv anymore and my laptop doesn't have the power to run the disc, so until I can buy a cheapo tv to play, I haven't considered other ps2 games that I also like
maybe you could get some shit-tier composite capture to use with your laptop that would be cheaper than a TV

>>3879495
nigga that's kawaii

>>3879780
atleast they gave us the mario & luigi series

>>3852032
>will permanently damage your language aquisition preventing you from ever reaching native fluency.
>native fluency
Stopped reading there. That's a fucked up goal to have.

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>>3851790
don't even know the progress of this one

>>3852512 >>3852069 >>3861323 >>3866206 >>3867436 >>3881125
Japanese really can make pretty covers for their games. This reminds me to the comparison between the japanese version of Resident Evil where you only saw a point of light with this creepy fell to it and the American version with tits and guns and shit.

>>3881180
>with tits and guns and shit
wasn't it also made by Japanese because it was what they thought would sell in usa?

>>3859634
>>3864669
What a waste of time.
>>3863193
>PS2 doesn't have that many JP games that require translation
lol

>>3881206
Name some than

Gunparade march

>>3881224
Growlanser 6 & 4 Return and Langrisser 3 for me.

>>3881193
That would be hilarious dude, let's say you have a shoot em up, as a non-jap what would you put in the cover?

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>>3881337
if I was selling touhou in japan, then this

None. Japanese video games are not good.

>>3852032
>tfw math was ruined for you for this reason

>>3881227
Are any of those on the PS2?

I'd lov to see far east eden games translated

where's the anon that posts that super famicom game with the little girl on it?

>>3882032
Yep.

Langrisser 3 has a Saturn/PC version as well but the PS2 version in my opinion has more enjoyable UI and the battle system is less annoying if you decide to keep the battle animations off.

>>3852148
>it's actually easier to read than speak it

not even close. speaking is 100% easier, just like with chinese. All the words are simple and there aren't many different sounds.

>>3854596
you have to be pretty intelligent to learn 2000 kanji in 3 months. the average person learns about 500 kanji in 6 months- a year

Not exactly retro, but digimon has a lot of untranslated games

>>3882561
Not really, it just depends on what you mean by "learn". Most people finish Remembering the Kanji and other similar methods, which amount to about 2000 kanji, in 2-3 months.

>>3882503
There's a big difference to Chinese.
Having only a few syllables makes things quite complicated since you have to deal with tons of homophones that can't even be cleared up from context.
It's one of the reasons kana-only games are a plague.

You should compare the difficulty of reading/listening and speaking/writing. Being able to compose complex sentences on your own is certainly challenging than understanding such sentences.
If you can speak it you can write it for most part since Japanese text input is done via phonetics with either Latin or Kana input. Hand writing is irrelevant nowadays.