Name the HARDEST video game you can think of for Non Nintendo systems

>Kid chameleon
>hard

Mike Cerny go back to /v/.

Wizardry 4 was never ported to a Nintendo system.

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>>3846108

OP said Non Nintendo

Fatal Rewind. It did the whole "PREPARE TO DIE" thing decades before the Souls series.

Super Fantasy Zone
Ghouls 'n Ghosts
Thunder Force IV / Lightening[sic] Force
Shadow Dancer
Most of the Shinobi games, really

>>3846103
This is hard for me to gauge. "Hard" to me implies "challenging but still playable." A lot of the really "hard" games to me seem impossible, and I put those into a different category.

>>3846106
Mate, the first 70% of the game is you massing extra lives for the endgame

That little dude looks like he slices people's throats open without flinching. So cool.

>>3846103

They actually managed to pull off some technical wonders with that game, considering the time in which it was made.

>>3846679
>70% of the game farming lives
That isn't good game design.

>>3846103
I always thought games like decap attack were more difficult. Taz-mania as another example. Toki for a third example.

>KC was challenging for me but never caused me to rage

>>3846730
I'm sorry I forgot about your mental disorder. I'm saying "The game takes a fucking huge difficulty spike"

>>3846730
>Having a difficulty curve is bad game design.

>>3846730
>bad game design
>thread about hardest games

>>3846103
IO

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>>3846108
>>3846661

>>3847257
Difficulty doesn't mean bad level design.

>>3846743
Oh, I thought you said you need to farm lives or something.

>>3848206
Yeah that's my point. I don't know why you're bringing up critiques of game design in a thread about difficulty

>>3848206
You can just take a bunch of warps and skip the life farming altogether if you're good enough.

>>3846664
Ah, the Killing Game Show. That game was more of a puzzler than action.

>>3846103
I used an emulator and savestates to cheat my way through kid chameleon

it was still ridiculously hard, and took me over a month.

But Nintendo systems have the easiest games of any system.

>>3850302
NON Nintendo Systems.

>>3850306
The implication is that all the hardest games are on Nintendo systems, which is totally false as Nintendo systems have the easiest games.

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R-Type 2 or Gradius 3 both loops

>>3846685
So radical dude

>>3850307
>either-or fallacy

>>3850307
I don't think OP was implying that, but anyway I think the console with the easiest games is playstation.

>>3848147
holy fucking shit

>>3850307
what the fuck kind of bullshit logic is this

>>3846103
I always stop playing at the snow levels, as a kid and used game genie to see the final boss.