Best Non-Nintendo handheld?

Yes.

PSP, nigga.

>We're doing it! We're going to save SNk from bankruptcy! We've got better graphics, it's starting to sell, & we're finally getting some third party support
>What could Nintendo POSSIBLY compete?

I felt so bad for SNK. This handheld had possibly the worst timing in video game history.

>Neo Geo Pocket
LITERALLY playing fighting games by yourself.
Unless by some miracle you find another poor soul with a NGPC and a copy of the game PLUS the extortionately priced game link cable.

>>3825702
>PLUS the extortionately priced game link cable.

$50 isn't that bad by retro game standards. It's no gamecube component cable at least. My main problem is those fucking worm lights. They never pop up on eBay.

>>3825710
Who are you trying to fool, you'll be playing fighters all by yourself like the fucking chode you are.

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>>3825716

>TWO handheld metal slugs
>Handheld Cotton
>SNK Vs. CAPCOM's god tier mini games

It has it's parks. Built in horoscope is cool.

>>3825698
there wasn't a time period where it could have really succeeded between like 1996 and 2002
that being said, it was on the market for such a short time entirely because SNK stopped making hardware, rather than it tanking -- in fact, it was picking up in sales when everything fell through

biggest problem it faced is that the people who knew it existed (and there were a fair few) didn't know where to get one -- I wanted an NGPC pretty bad back then and never saw it anywhere available
and then after the GBA came out, the machine was truly doomed, so even if SNK kept making the things and making games, they were in for a world of trouble

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>>3825704
This or the nomad.

>>3825745

At least Faselei was decent right?

>>3825747
>I wanted an NGPC pretty bad back then and never saw it anywhere available

I only remember it being for sale at Toys R Us.

>>3825756
>>3825704

That's kind of cheating. You're taking the home console games & just making them portable. That's like Calling the Switch a handheld.

>>3825768
the switch is a handheld

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>>3825745

>>3825768
It's a handheld is it not?
>That's like Calling the Switch a handheld.
It literally is.

>>3825689
You posted it.

>>3825789

Just because you can hold something in your hands doesn't make it a handheld.

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>>3825806

>>3825806
I would really enjoy it if you would define handheld

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>>3825689
I like shooting, strategy, puzzle and rpg games a lot; so for me the WonderSwan wins on library strength and variety over the NGPC.


>>3825768
>At least Faselei was decent right?

Thank you for reminding me, anon, I must spend some time with this one.

>>3825689
>a stick to move for 2D games

I don't really like the sound of that. I'd probably go with Gamegear since it was the only other one I had although I never had much games for it.

>>3825756
I have two Nomads but I still haven't replaced the TG Express my "friend" traded for drugs in high school. I do prefer the Genesis library to the hucard library but compared to the TGExpress/PCE-GT the Nomad is bigger even without its battery pack and the carts don't seat very securely for portable play compared to hucards.

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>>3825689
>Best Non-Nintendo handheld?
It is non-retro

>>3825689
Couldn't this connect to the Dreamcast? Did any games use that?

>>3826793
Yeah, it's pretty much just a gimmick to get you to buy certain games on both platforms and unlock stuff faster on both of them.

>>3826793
>Couldn't this connect to the Dreamcast? Did any games use that?

Here's a list of compatible games and what each one did:
http://segaretro.org/Neo_Geo_Pocket/Dreamcast_Setsuzoku_Cable

It wasn't worth it, basically, but it was the precursor to Nintendo's somewhat better GBA-to-GCN cable at least.

>>3825904
Have you used the NGPC stick? It's an 8-directional micro-switch stick; it's fucking amazing and so loud.

>>3826793
Yes, and a few did.

>>3825904
>I don't really like the sound of that

You will once you start using it. It sounds amazingly satisfying :).
It's also great for fighting games.

>>3826808

I wish modern games used micro switches. They're so comfortable.

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>>3827093
>>3826808

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>>3827125

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>>3825698
>>3825702
>>3825747
It sucked so much being the poor guy in my circle of friends. Between them, they all had 5 NGPCs and I enjoyed playing their games they had for the system. Local EBs all around me had them in stock. People I communicated with online (IRC) kept telling me to get Faselei as they were getting only a single shipment (of about 20) into their stores, and I was still too broke to even buy a single one of those games and didn't even have the system too. I am grateful one of my friends knew I still loved old games and gave me his old NGPC a few months ago. Everyone I knew loved the NeoGeo Pocket Color in its day, I wished I could have joined in at that time. SNK deserved better.


>>3826623
I like your name/trip. I am assuming you're the same anon that mentions that happened to their TurboExpress. That's such a cruel fate to lose a TurboExpress in that manner. At least you have not just one but two Nomads! That's awesome! I'd be happy with just one.


>>3827125
I think the PDP controller for 360 and PS3 also has a similar mechanism. Also that default nasty controller that comes with the Retron5 may as well. Yet somehow the SNK ones feel so much better, I can't explain why.

>>3827125

Is that why half the Neo Geo CD controllers on eBay are broken?

>>3825689

Ps vita > PSP > NG pocket > your nintendo crap

>>3826623
>I do prefer the Genesis library to the hucard library
Yeah that's pretty much my reasoning, the turbo express is much more portable

so is the neo geo pocket color worth buying?

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>>3825806

>>3828435

Depends. Hoe much do you like SNK, fighting games, & CAPCOM? cause that's pretty mutch it

Sonic Pocket Adventure
Faselei
Neo Turf Masters
Gal Fighters
SNK vs. Capcom
SNK Vs. CAPCOM Card Fighter Clash

I mean it's good, but It really hinges on how much of a fighting game fan you are. I love it, but mostly for how great the Pac-Man game is on it.

>>3825689
I forgot this existed. What good games were even on this?

>>3826793
A few did.

Ironically, Sonic Pocket Adventure can't interact with any Sonic game on Dreamcast. You would think that would be the one thing the cable did, maybe something like the Tiny Chao Garden in Advance, but nope.

>>3825806

Define handheld, dipshit.

>It's the thing I do with small children

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>>3825806

>>3825694
>>3826626

Mah niggas.

>>3825689

It's not /vr/.

But if I'm forced to go /vr/, then I'll say the Wonderswan. I'm a sucker for gimmicks like that.

>>3829176

The neo geo pocket came out in 1998 & van play most of the color games. Fuck off. It's retro.

>>3829176
Any system launched before the year 2000 is allowed on /vr/, the last time I checked.

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>>3825806

>>3829460
>>3829604
>reading comprehension

>>3829460
Seeing only a message that says the game only runs on NGPC isn't playing the game chief.

>>3828484
i like fighting games but i dont love them so i might pick one up. is there a reason why their so cheap? i expected them to be at least in the 100 dollar range.

>>3829693
Fairly mass produced, not region locked, small software library, not really part of the 'retro bubble'. All of it helps prices. I'm still pissed I didn't have $50 or whatever in like 2005 to buy the blister packs they sold at Electronics Boutique with a NGPC and like 5 games brand new. Such was being a middle schooler or whatever.

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Only tangentially related to this thread and /vr/ but there is a new fighting game called Pocket Rumble that is supposed to be a spiritual successor to Neo Geo Pocket Color fighting games like MVC MOTM (similar graphics and controls)

>>3829913

Didn't this come out two years ago?

>>3825871
>Thank you for reminding me, anon, I must spend some time with this one.

It's fucking expensive. At least $80-$100, cart only. not sure if it's worth that price.

>>3830221
Pocket Rumble has been in Steam Early Access for a year, it's currently "mostly done" and has had netplay since its initial launch

So who here actually owns a NCPC? They're pretty cheap, even if the game selection is kinda shit.

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>>3829698
>d, not region locked, small software library, not really part of the 'retro bubble'. All of it helps prices. I'm still pissed I didn't have $50 or whatever in like 2005 to buy the blister packs they sold at Electronics Boutique with a NGPC and like 5 games brand new. Such was being a middle schooler or whatever.

same, same, although at that time wal-marts had the sonic bundle for 20 new so i went with that and never winded up getting any other games for it. it's a damn nice system though. i should get some more games now that im not a poorfag

>>3830221
might as well get the flash masta flash cart.


I sold my NGPC a while ago (with very few regrets as I played the shit out of it) but desu I don't think I want to deal with a non-lit screen anymore so I'm just gonna emulate it on my 3DS.

>>3830357

How is the emulator on 3DS? No slowdown?

>>3830309
I got one around 2002 or so. Game selection isn't shit, the library is just small.

>>3825702
>being so assblasted that you have to come in and make this same complaint in every NGPC thread
your mom wouldn't buy you one, huh

>>3830375
I haven't tested it extensively but it ran Metal Slug perfectly as far as I could tell.

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Who needs Tetris when you've got Klax?

>>3825689
Game Gear

>>3831013
Yep

Had a tv tuner, master system converter. a bunch of games, accesories. cheat device.

now it has
tv out and screen replacement mods, battery pack mods and a flashcart

best /vr/ handheld.

>>3830778
It's the 90s, and there is time for KLAX.

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>>3827965
>I think the PDP controller for 360 and PS3 also has a similar mechanism
Similar but much weaker. There's clicky and then there's CLICKY

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since we got a thread up I had a question. I jiust got a pocket color and I know the system itself is region free but are any of the JP fighting games in English like KOFr2 for example.

It's not really a huge deal or anything but CIB Japanese games are way cheaper and I remember a few AES carts had both languages

>>3832714

Some are, some aren't. Most Pocket color games contain both english & Japanese language files & swap between them depending on what language setting the system is set to, but some of the larger games like Faselei only contain one language due to the size of the rom. Other games were simply never released in english like Neo Poke Kun.

to the fucking point: Some have both languages on the cart, some don't. Look it up on a per game basis.

>>3832714
All of the fighting games save the black and white releases came out in English and a few games that were Japan-only got fan translations (most notably SvC Card Fighter 2), I don't believe the system has region lock either way

>>3832758

well, what Im asking is if the JP cart has English text because they're cheaper and sometimes they do.

>>3832770
>and sometimes they do.

You just answered your own question. The easiest way to check would be to load up a Japanese rom of a game on an emulator & switch language settings to see if that particular game switches to english.

>>3825689
Wonderswan honesty was pretty good as well.

>>3832819
It had a Klonoa game and a Ghost and Goblins as well.
Plus a fuckton of Digimon games that were part of the franchise's canon timeline, how the fuck could you NOT like that handheld?

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This is the only reason to own a wonderswan.

>>3825689
I love this thing.

King of Fighters R-2, Samurai Showdown 2, Puzzle Bobble and Pocket Reversi are my go to games.

Especially King of Fighters R2. Tons of content in that little game. You could customise a fighter with a bunch of equipment that would change your stats and sometimes give you extra moves.

Like a fucking gun. You could pull out a gun and shoot your opponent in the face. In a KOF game.

Samurai Showdown 2 had slash and burst mode characters that played differently and cards you could earn and equip that added extra moves and stats.

>>3834182
>Like a fucking gun. You could pull out a gun and shoot your opponent in the face. In a KOF game.
Whip in Gals' Fighters has that as her regular attack. Just pulls out a gun and can fire at the opponent repeatedly. No wonder she was made the sub-boss.

>>3834239
Everything about those SNK fighters were recycled from each other when you analyse it.

>>3825689
NGPC is so cute.

>>3834149
what about judgement silver sword?

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>>3834182
>Like a fucking gun. You could pull out a gun and shoot your opponent in the face. In a KOF game.

I think Whip had a Gun move. I wish she was in the new 3D game, but I guess you can only have so many people on Team Ikari. She was playable in Gal Fighters too.

>>3834182
>Samurai Showdown 2 had slash and burst mode characters that played differently and cards you could earn and equip that added extra moves and stats.

Last Blade on the NGPC also had equipable cards, & a surprisingly large amount of Character Biographies.

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>>3834427

Im not saying we would have gotten Whip or Vanessa or Kasumi or anyone I like if it weren't for the pachisluts. But we could have gotten someone who wasn't a pachislut. And that would have been boss.

Like the game though. Hoping the DLC crew ends up being someone cool.

>>3834250

It's surprising what they accomplished. If it has a backlight it may have lasted even longer. I'm surprised the system was under $100 all things considered, but I guess they were keeping costs down due to going bankrupt soon after.

>>3834250
Sure, but they all had unique mechanics and single llayer content, as well as different game speeds. The art was definitely recycled, but that is always what snk has done.

>>3825689
Turbo expeess

>>3834250
Well, of course they were. That was SNK's style. Still, you were getting an extremely authentic SNK experience on a pocket handheld, long before you got the same thing for Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat. And they acted as predecessors for Match of the Millennium, which was even better. Derivative certainly, but still a great collective of games.

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>>3825689
>implying best handheld is from nintendo

Retro? Game Gear.
Non-retro? PSP.

I really enjoyed the fact that I could emulate NES in my DS, it actually gave the chance to play games I hadn't finish because my parents rented them for me or I had no idea existed.

And some of the DS games were pretty boss too.

GP32 for life.
First handheld console to run emulators, iirc.

>>3829084
If you mean for having a non-smart phone/tablet emulation machine, then yes; best portable console.

>>3825689
virtual boy the handheld

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>Just did my horoscope
>5 Stars in everything
Shit lads, how do I make the most of this?

>>3838492

You can do anything. You're literally unstoppable. You can do no wrong.

>>3838492
SHIT, find a king of fighters 98 tournament asap, you need to show of your neo geo luck before it wears off!

>>3834697
in '99, none of the hardware in the NGPC would have made it that expensive, the machine is in the ballpark of (if a fair bit more powerful than) a GBC -- similar video, faster CPU, 2 PSGs.
also, nothing would have saved the NGPC simply because the only reason they stopped when they did was Aruze shutting things down and just casually allowing SNK to fall apart -- if SNK hadn't fucked up the Hyper Neo-Geo 64 (also, if arcades weren't fading away in not-Japan), they wouldn't have had to suffer the Aruze buyout

>>3834250
they play surprisingly differently despite looking damn near interchangeable
but they're all busted as shit because they never had location testing or anything (really, go look up KOF R-2 or Gals Fighters combos, they're kind of retarded)

>>3832758
There's actually a few B/W releases with English on the cart, like KOF R-1.

>>3839243
>if SNK hadn't fucked up the Hyper Neo-Geo 64

Was the Neo geo CD considered a failure too?

>>3830375
>>3830753

I just tested a handful of games today on RetroArch 1.4.1 and noticed a little slowdown on Baseball Stars (went down to 50 fps) but that was really it. SNK vs. Capcom ran perfectly. That mech strategy RPG (forgetting the name now) ran at 70 FPS when upcapped.

This is on a N3DS, regular one probably won't get full speed.

I didn't have much fun though to be honest. I played the shit out of all the games I liked as a kid that there isn't anything left in the library that interests me. SNK vs. Capcom is still fun though. I didn't have much interest in the other fighting games as SNK vs. Capcom was always more fun and deep.

>>3835820

>DS
I wish there was a board to talk about GBA and DS. I get why it's not here, but there are a lot of great games for those systems that have the look and feel of retro games.

>>3841379

Neo Poke Kun is fun in spurts.

>>3825689
psp

>>3825718
>perks
fixed that for you. Also, the metal slugs on ngpc were probably the worst 2D metal slugs ever made. IMO the system shined with its quirky games. Fighting game board game? Yugioh ripoff that is based on crossover of fighting game series? Raise-A-Game-Dev Simulator? Cyberpunk Pokemon? These kind of games just can't be found anywhere else.

>>3841946
>Fighting game board game?

Elaborate

>>3829693
There are a LOT of chinese bootlegs, mass produced in the early 2000s. You should really be wary of where you get these cartridges, especially if buying from eBay.

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>>3841948

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>tfw my Neo Geo Pocket Color's screen stopped properly working
>now almost all color is either all clear or all black
>get horrifying shit like this (CFC1 main menu)

>>3842528
>pixels not completely off are completely on
change caps

>>3842541
I assume you mean capacitors? I don't have much skill in repair so honestly I'd be better off buying a whole new NGPC

>>3842582

Replacing capacitors is the easiest fix ever. The problem I would worry about is getting dust in between the screen when you're putting ot back together.

>>3826626
Systems should be judged based on their own merits and games, not their homebrew and emulation potential.

>>3842880
Why? Liking a piece of hardware for utilitarian purposes is completely valid, I would argue that denying that fact is corporatism garbage.

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Modded Nomad with LCD screen and rechargeable Pack.

>>3844503
how is the nomad?

>>3828484
Beastbusters: Dark Arms?
Dive Alert?
Baseball Stars?
Turf Masters?
Crush Roller?
Bust a Move?
Metal Slug?
Biomotor Unitron?

NGPC is chock full of great games from all genres. It's hard finding a bad game on the system. Beastbusters is probably one of the best action RPGs on a handheld and Turf Masters is the best handheld sports game of all time.

>>3846624
It's an awesome system.

>>3825756
This was my first handheld. I still have it and love it.

>>3841383
Seconding this. There are so many DS games that look and play like saturn games, it's like the 90s never left.

>>3825694
My friend just got me a hacked, holy shit I've been missing out I love portable emulators. After long day of working/schooling/fucking around it's just a fantastic distraction.

>>3830778
But we're not in the 90's anymore.

>>3841383
What's wrong with /v/ and the Nintendo General on /vg/?

>>3835801
It has a weak library that play better on an emulator, and it's retro emulation is sub par by today's standards.

>>3851135
>PSP
>weak library

Wew

>>3851114

No one talks about older stuff there

>>3851114
>Guys lets talk about the NintendoDS and GameBoyAdvance
>LOL XD the nintenyearsolDS is shit the psp is better
>Then make a thread about the PSP because i believe it is a great console
>NO WAY FAG

>>3852263
about sums it up

>>3831013
Game gear sonic games. Oh baby.