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> favorite moments,memories,

I'd like to talk about Ultima but somebody stole my computer

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Best game coming through

>>3803732
this game made me think about pride. I have legit problem being proud of something now.

I will always say V is my favorite of the series. Plays with the same ideas as 4, but there is a logical goal rather than self improvement. Plus Blackthorn is an awesome villain.

I did like in VII Part 2 when they shoe in a reference to Blackthorn and he saw the error of his ways and became a good man.

If any of you haven't played Ultima 4 yet, this is the best version to play.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/xu4/

I've never touched the series until a few days ago. I've spent a few hours playing Ultima I. I just got all the gems. This is the first new retro game I've been excited about in a while. I'm looking forward to the later installments.

So far I've felt like there isn't much incentive to explore. Does this get better in later games?

>>3803942
There's nothing like exploiting the chests in the basement of British's castle until you have everything you'll ever need.

Love flying around on the magic carpet.

Hated trying to find one of the Shadowlord's shards in the underworld that you had to blink all over the place to get to.

Was amused at how you could just cheese your way to level 8 with an invisibility ring, a magic axe and plenty of guards :)

>>3803732
>favorite moments
using one of the cannons on the parapets of Lord British's castle to destroy a locked door.

As much as I love 5 though, my favorite character will always be Sherry the mouse.

>>3804456
well in ultima 4 the whole purpose of the game is to deeply introspect and improve as a person so exploration is pretty rewarding there

>>3803887
I see what you did there.

Thoughts on pagan?

>>3805064
It could have been cool but the rushed release killed any potential.

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>>3803732

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBZatnaImPU

>>3804035
>>3804525
What I like about 5 is the atmosphere. You can really feel the oppression of the people and the strive for resistance.

I tried out 4 but I wasn't ready for a game as cinematic or with as much dialog as it had. I guess that's kind of the appeal to this series though? Seems like people mostly praise it for the writing.

Is it fair to say that if I like my games to be light on story then this series isn't for me?

>>3805342
It's more about the world than the story.
If you don't like talking to people then the series isn't for you.

>>3804537
Those times, you could concentrate in making the gameplay and background good instead of trying to impress anyone with the graphics.

>>3805064
Unlike 9 it's worth a playthrough, very disappointing though

How do I play Ultima? What is the general control scheme?

>>3806254
DOS with a Keyboard through 5. You can use a mouse in 6, but I didn't. Never played further.

>>3806370
OK, I got that. But which keys are used for various actions? I don't know if manuals tell about this. I know that the 1st game's manual said nothing about that.

>>3806374
Google is your friend

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Ultima_V:_Warriors_of_Destiny/Controls

>>3806380
Thanks a lot!

>>3806382
Some tips for 5:
1) Get a magic carpet (or 2-3) early. They make things much easier. 2) Avoid, or do what I do and murder the guy sleeping in Castle Britain's basement (who sleeps in a bed on the left side if I recall and asks to join your party). He's a traitor! Plus, you need his bed :)
3) Get some skeleton keys from Minoc
4) Use a skeleton key to open the door in Castle Britain's basement
5) Open the chests from #4 above, sleep in bed from #2 above and then the chests will be back again. Plus, if you don't exit the castle, you don't need to re-use a skeleton key to get in.
6) Get Magic Axes, they are epic ranged weapons. Use invisibility rings. They are also epic.
7) Visit the keeps as I forget which one, but one of their leaders has the item that lets you climb small mountains)

That's usually how I start.

>>3804537
Got any more tilesets?

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>>3806867

>>3806374
>I know that the 1st game's manual said nothing about that.
That's what the quick reference card is for.

>>3807071
I meant for other Ultima games

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>>3807634

>>3807653
Thanks

>>3807653
Thats a nice looking tileset.
Are the x68k Ultimas in english?

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>>3808009
No. Only Japanese Ultima releases with English option are 1-6 on the FM Towns and for some reason the FM Towns release of 5 uses the EGA tileset instead of that one from the PC98 or X68000.

BETRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYAL

BETRAYED ME

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>>3808145

>>3808149
Ultima IX in a nutshell

>>3805826
I found 9 quite playable and enjoyable.
8 is just bad all around.

>>3808149
What's a Paladin?

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>>3809401
someone who chose "Honour" in each of the gypsy's questions.

>>3809397
Why?

Has anyone here read the manga?

>>3810223
For 8. Because nothing in it really works. The gameplay is dull, controls are terrible, the world empty and the story disrupted.
It might have been cool with more time to develop the concepts and playtest things.

9 has the best gameplay in the series and the controls work nicely. The world is interesting to explore.
It's fun once you look past the initial performance issues and the lackluster story.

>>3810848
I read the Quest for the Avatar one.
Are there any raws available for some of the others?

>>3811136
Dunno that's why I asked

>>3810848
i can't believe the guy who wrote the megami tensei books also wrote ultima books

and they're just as crazy from the summaries i've read

>>3811136
Was it any good?

>>3811837

>>3811837
>i can't believe the guy who wrote the megami tensei books also wrote ultima books

I did not know this.

Point me towards additional information.

>>3812080
http://wiki.ultimacodex.com/wiki/Japanese_Ultima_Novels#Kadokawa_Novels
aya nishitani is the author

>>3812138

Stupid question:
Were these translated to English and made accessible to English readers?

>>3812302
even his most famous work was never completely translated

so i guess this isn't

no love for ultima 7?

wtf you disgusting hipsters

>>3812305
Where can I find the manga?

I latched onto Ultima IV early with the NES version (later got a hold of the PC version). With no final boss and a focus on actions that improve oneself, it was kind of a relief to play, since it had no "pressure" to kill a big bad.

I haven't gotten into Ultimas after IV, though I've played parts of V and VI. Just couldn't finish them, and often needed a walkthrough just to progress. Also, VI seems to have a clunky interface IMO; are there any mods to fix that?

>>3813649
>>3813649
http://www.unmasqued.com/eclecticify/downloads/Ultima-QoTA.pdf
http://www.unmasqued.com/eclecticify/manga2_start.php

>>3811889
I didn't like it.

Question:

Ultima VI. UI is clunky; is there a workaround/fix/patch/better way to use it?

>>3814804
http://nuvie.sourceforge.net

>>3814095
>>3813649

Spiritual successor comic book?
http://www.indyplanet.us/product/122157/

>>3803732
Online is my fav still play to this day(private servers only tho)

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Savage Empire is my favorite. I find the world of the Valley of Eodon a lot more captivating than Britain. Second favorite is Serpent Isle.

>>3814843
All I remember from that game were those fucking ants. As bad as the mongbats in U5.
That and the fact you could arm the natives with muskets despite being told so often you couldn't. Just make sure it was loaded first.

Started playing Underworld, loved the visuals but holy shit I can't get used to the controls.

Just wish WADX control didn't had that 4 instant steps bullshit.

>>3815039
use S to walk forward for precision W is to run

>>3808145
Wow they ripped off Dragon Quest

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>>3815393
> wow that cart is pushing the horse everywhere

>>3815260
And Shift-S to walk without falling from cliffs.

>>3814805
Thanks anon, I got nuvie set up and running, and after a bit of tweaking it's definitely better to work with than vanilla Ultima VI.

>>3815662
Remember to grab the FM Towns files for better sound effects and full voice acting.

>>3815686
I knew about the sound effects, but voice acting? Hmm, that's interesting. Have to go back to the nuvie site for those...

>>3815697
I don't think they host the files.
http://www.doperoms.com/roms/fujitsu_fm-towns/Ultima%20VI%20-%20The%20False%20Prophet%20(1990)(Origins)(Jp-En)[+UserDisk].zip.html/599838/Ultima%20VI%20-%20The%20False%20Prophet%20.html
Extract the contents of the image into a folder specified in nuvie.cfg as <townsdir>.

Is Ultima IV a good starting point? Got it for free from GOG ages ago

>>3816362
I'd say it is a good starting point, but I'm biased since it's my favorite of the series. If you've got it, play it. For all the dated graphics and gameplay, it's unlike any other game before or since IMO.

Bedtime for me now, but I'll be back tomorrow. This thread should still be around then, as slow as /vr/ moves.

>>3816362
Absolutely. 4 is where the real continuity starts.

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>>3816362
III is a dungeon romp, IV is a role-playing game not just "adventure with power-ups" rpg game. V and VI build on IV, you get a lot out of it if you already completed IV and have investment in not just the setting but the thesis.
Ultima IV is the seed that all the games that follow are grown from. You'll see references to I, II, and III in later games but they're explained when they're used so you're not even missing out on lore.

Would be nice if the xu4 devs got back to fixing the game; those hang/freeze areas get annoying to deal with. Last activity was middle of last year.

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What is a good Ultima for someone that has never played Ultima before?

>>3818834
IV is probably the best start point if you want a real classic Ultima experience.

VII would be acceptable too if you're too pleb to get into IV.

>>3809401
I'm not entirely sure...

>>3809401
A worthless pile of honor.

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literally a tibia ripoff

>>3819001
>pu6e
>pube

Many years ago I found an Ultima 4-6 strategy guide in a bookstore and bought it. It's an amazing book that it's half strategy guide, half novel. It implies relationships between the Avatar and Joanna I believe...it's been a long time since I've read it, but it was very odd. It's kind of like the books that came with X-Wing and TIE Fighter that detailed the backstory of the characters and the strategy guides for those games that had story chapters in between the mission guides.

>>3818890
Fuck 7 and everybody that skips its predecessors.
Better play the Worlds games and Underworld 1 in that case, there you don't need to know what it means to be the avatar.

>>3819001
>>3819039
I just remembered this.
http://ultimasixonline.thezogcabal.com/

The first encounter with a gazer in the mines in Ultima Underworld, or forging your dragon skin boots, or the quests for the knights especially the awesome boss fight.
Or the entirety of UU2 that game was just so full of awesome worlds and scenarios, letting the troll loose in the goblin tower, the frozen dam puzzle, the freaky alien stuff, the academy, the crazy endgame dreamworld...

I wish there were more games as fucking AMAZING as those two (and the other LGS games)

>>3820164
>>>3819001
In my case, accidentally falling into the dire spider pit and running across the egg. Then running into all the spiders on my way out when I'm too low level to fight even one of them.

That was a pants-shitting moment in my life, for sure. I have no idea how I managed to get out.

But I fucked up later and drank the easily-gotten basilisk potion and mistakenly saved. Then I had to go find the other one (I think there's two more?). That pissed me off.

>>3820196
Yeah that's a good example of Ultima Underworld 2's excellent design. I'm sure most players will fall down that trap door while exploring the first sewer level in the beginning of the game, straight into the scary ass spider nest. But then you realize they're not hostile so you can move on without reloading but already lost in the next level without even knowing a way back up.
And when a quest much later asks you to get some spider eggs you're sure to remember that area.
And it's occuring naturally, without a scripted sequence or linear map design forcing you to do it.

Moments like this make it feel like an adventure and mysterious and fun to explore, something that is lost in so many modern games unfortunately.

>>3809682

>Not wanting to be a paladin

>What's a Paladin?

>>3820402
I always found Dupre useful. He could carry a lot.

>>3820462
Agreed. You can just about roll with just the Avatar and Dupre up until you hit the dungeons for the stones, when you'll need the full party for some of the rooms.

played the first trilogy a lot as a kid...never got very far in it though.

>>3820675
A friend in elementary school first showed me Ultima 5 on his Apple 2 at the time. Then he showed me some of 4. I ended up buying them myself for my 286 (had to special order them because I had a 3.5 inch disk drive and most games came on 5.25's at the time).

I still wish I had my ankh and codex coin that came with them. I do still have some of the manuals, cloth maps and boxes though.

Thoughts on Underworld Ascendant? What do you hope/expect/fear?

Anyone like to do the character creation/tarot reading in U4 over and over again, more than play the actual game?

I'm sure it's autistic of me, but something fascinates me about it, can't quite put my finger on what, though.

I've only really played Ultima Online, and Ultima 9. I've dabbled in a few of the earlier games, but never really played through them sadly. And as much as a travesty to the series Ultima 9 is, overall I enjoyed the game for what it was. It's environments were nice to discover, and some of the dungeons were fun to crawl though. Other dungeons, however, were way too fucking convoluted. I even tried to get through the 2nd half of Hythloth that was cut off due to it being such a shitshow, and couldn't make it all the way. And other dungeons just had really bad design overall. It certainly makes me wish some kind of re-make would happen with the game, since it could be vastly improved, especially on a more stable engine.

It's crazy how much Underworld changed RPGs.

>>3824185
>Avatar as a qt anime grill
LB should've done this from the start

>>3824192
That's a cleric from Exodus.
You can be a girl in most games. Only SE, 8 and 9 don't give you that choice.

recently been speedrunning both Ultima 7 games. Pretty fun shit.

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>>3824209
AWESOME, MY FUCKING SIDES!

I assume this was a mod, right?

>>3824218
nope this is actual vanilla serpent isle.

>>3824285
top fucking kek

>>3824285
Why aren't you playing SI Fixes?

>>3824297
>exult
yeah nah

>>3824306
What's wrong with Exult?

>>3824324
i'm just nostalgic for DOS and the choppy engine. Exult also isnt 100% accurate

>>3824330
>Exult also isnt 100% accurate
That's a good thing.

>>3824345
true, black gate was fine for the most part but SI really dropped the ball thanks EA

Even though it fixes alot of things, it introduces different issues and inconsistency in an already inconsistent game, so its really just what flavor you want

i liked the first ones because it was just filled with stuff a nerd would think was cool

dungeons and dragons
star wars
sci fi
dr.who

>>3824185
we need more art of the japanese avatar/cleric

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>>3825932

had 1-4 growing up because my dad had them on apple II, only really made progress in 4 back then