Best Oldschool Composers

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Yuzo is the man.

These days I'm impressed by the work of Ryuji Sasai, especially in Rudra no Hihou.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Jose_Gonz%C3%A1lez

One of the best chip tune composers of all time

Joe McAlby rules surpreme.

Grant Kirkhope and Nobou Uematsu

Naoki Kodaka

Masahiko Takaki

>>3785979
any songs in particular from that game you like?

Yuzo Koshiro
Tim Follins
Manabu Namiki
Hiroshi Kawaguchi
Masashi Kageyama
yoko shimomura
Hirokazu Tanaka
Takenobu Mitsuyoshi
Naofumi Hataya
Masafumi Ogata
Whoever did the OST for Rondo of Blood and CV III
Nobuo Uematsu

>>3785996
>Kirkhope

>>3786053
Also the entire SNK Soundteam

>>3786041
I'm obsessed with "Secret Encounter" in particular. I can't get it out of my head.

The thing is, I've actually never played this game... Just the OST on YouTube was enough to hook me for days and days.

>>3786093
Strange* Encounter, not Secret

Yasuhisa Watanabe

>>3785979
Rudra ni Hihou is just an average RPG with a gimmicky spell system that I would only recommend to die-hard fans of the genre, but damn is its OST great.

Other favorite composers of mine are:
Yuzo Koshiro (especialy Actraiser: going from 8-bit consoles bleeps to hearing epic music awed me as a kid.)

Motoi Sakuraba. I loved what he did from Sol-Deace to Valkyrie Profile.

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Satoshi Miyashita.

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Tommy Tallarico

Jun Ishikawa. I love his Kirby 64 pieces.

I have an extremely stupid question:

How do soundtrack uploaders get the music for a game soundtrack? Specifically in cases where the game doesn't have an officialy released soundtrack, like Vectorman or Kid Icarus. Can they get it off the cartridges somehow?

>>3787761
Well, the music is ofcourse contained in the games and there is a way to get them and people got them. You could rip them yourself from a ROM, but since you are even asking this question I really doubt you have the ability to do it. Just download them like we all do.
http://project2612.org/
http://nsf.joshw.info/
http://gbs.joshw.info/
http://icesoldier.me/towave.html

Though, it is very easy to rip music from PS1 games, especially redbook audio, which can be played back by any music player, even iTunes works.

>>3785971
What do you define as best? Like, what criterias have to be full filled? Good music is very subjective, so we can't judge them by their quality. But maybe by versitility. Retro composers had to deal with a lot of different things. PSG, FM, wavetables, samples and redbook audio. And most soundchips were varied greatly from one another.

Who mastered the most of them?

You can definitely make a good case for Yuzo Koshiro. I think Barry Leitch would also meet the conditions. Tim Follin probably too.

koshiro and uematsu are leagues above the rest desu

streets of rage even put his name on the fuckin title screen

Jesper Kyd,
great synth tracks for genesis games like sub terrania and adventures of batman and robin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNWqR5zjVgI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sN-lekUOC0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oYo0Jn0Q2I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcqPFOikYGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i26zJrMfiJI

Jonathan Dunn, Chris Huelsbeck, Ron Hubbard.
European video game music was so much better as music, arguably worse for games, or moreover, not suited for games.

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Toshiharu Yamanishi from Technosoft did some good Genesis/Mega Drive stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opR25qik0Lc&t=425s

Dragon's Fury/Devil Crash MD was done by him as well and it sounds great, even features a couple omakes

>>3790558

Not really. There are tons of great composers out there at the same level as those guys.

>>3786053
>Takenobu Mitsuyoshi
my nigga

>>3790838
Virtua Fighter 2 ost is amazing and obvious DAYYYTOOOONNNNAAAAAA!!!! RETS GO AWAY! BRUE BRUE SKIII!!!

Manabu Namiki is my fav

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYIhEHJt_jE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHJuAI9SmT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU4Nc9QTUV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Laj-7MA5g4M

>>3790565
This. It's a shame his more recent work is boring run of the mill AAA garbage.

>>3791850
>guys check this out, Arpeggios amirite??
>Now I'm gonna totally make a soundtrack that has no bearing on the atmosphere, tone, feeling or structure of your destined for the bargain bin game!
>You guys like Prog Rock, I hope.

Ryu Umemoto is best. YU-NO's soundtrack was incredible.

Also Hisayoshi Ogura.

>>3785971
Yuzo Koshiro is a god.

>>3785980
>>3791850
>Alberto Jose Warez and Keygen Arpeggin
It's almost I start feel pity for yuropoors.

>>3792867
Same, I don't understand the appeal. It's as if the west is so desperate for vg ost heroes that they'll cling to any glimmer of hope.

>>3792841
Actraiser and Shenmue were stolen? If you mean his techno, well everybody was sampling everybody back then. You might as well lump Ya Kid K, C and C MF and 90% of the other Hip Hop/Techno acts back then with Yuzo.

>>3792851
This
Ryu Umemoto was the pinnacle of retro video game soundtracks.
Since you mentioned the best, I'll post the 2nd best, Hitoshi Sakamoto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqJQxWgOjJo

>>3792871
>>3793137
Don't respond to shitposters.

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>ctrl F
>no Hitoshi Sakimoto

https://youtu.be/ZqJQxWgOjJo

Yasunori Mitsuda is my favorite.

>>3793493
The problem with Sakimoto is that his works post mid-90s generally sound very similar. You can always tell a track is done Sakimoto, and not because of the quality of the music but because he's come to vary so little in his compositions.

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>>3793505
>The problem with Sakimoto is that his works post mid-90s generally sound very similar.

Nah, that's not uncommon among composers at all. If it was the same case as today's composers where they all want to achieve the same movie-like scores you would have a point. But Hitoshi Sakimoto is one of a kind.

i think the composers for the lucasarts SCUMM games were pretty good

>>3793143
Yeah Sakimoto is good from a technical standpoint, but Umemoto's compositions are something else.

>>3786093
Ah, this song. Usually versus bosses. Yes, one of the best the game has. Another boss song which i enjoy is https://youtu.be/oNXdJKp9XPk

>>3787117
I think the worse parts of the game were:
- Not enough monsters (hard sprite recycling)
- Bland story.

Everything else was perfect: music, art, atmosphere. But the story was simply: "Kill thing because *procephy*"

>>3793143
I don't know, if you say so ...

>>3793668
I don't see the appeal either. Frankly, this is more my style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kcF7E69C6Q

>>3785971
Skaven and Purple Motion from Future Crew

They're mostly known for being demoscene gods, but they made some of the Unreal 1 tracks.

>>3794813
>whoah! This hall is dangerous!

Jeroen Tel

>>3795138
Still salty about mods deleting your earlier post, huh? What's your favorite composer? Just curious.

>>3793563
Gradius V sounds nothing like Sakamoto's earlier stuff.

>>3795149
Tim Follin

>>3792849
>You guys like Prog Rock, I hope.
Who doesn't?

Yuzo Koshiro

>>3785971
Keiji Yamagishi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDH4zHfz7Qk

>>3792605
>>3792849
>>3792867
You guys do know Follin did more than just NES music, right? Go check out Plok or Ecco the Dolphin: Defender of the Future or something.

>>3795228
Nobody cares

>>3785971
YUZO SAN!

>>3795260
Well okay then.

>>3795149
I don't have a single one, I like Yasunori Mitsuda, Shinji Hosoe, all the ones of Zone of Enders (amazing OST), Akira Yamaoka, Hip Tanaka...

But Koshiro is just a plagiarizer and this is a known fact. What he does is wrong and he's not a composer.

Only those who don't know that still worship Koshiro, usually latinos still worship him as they worship everything Genesis-related.

>>3785971
I really liked Koshiro's work in Beyond Oasis, both as a game designer and musician. His earlier work on the Ys series was also exceptional.

mind you if it's a little offtopic for /vr/, but what have these composers been up to nowadays? are they still composing? (maybe not games, maybe yes?) would love to hear it if so.

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>>3785971
You know he's a rip off artist, right? He might as well be making theme songs for WCW wrestlers. I love all the music, but should we not be giving credit to someone else? How bout someone like Yamane, or Terashima?

Report and ignore.

Ippo and Gaki-chan from Phantasy Star 4 OST
Mecano Associates from old Game Arts games
Jun Senoue (hope I spelled that right)

>>3785971
Yuzo Koshiro is simply a revelation. His work on Revenge of Shinobi was of particular brilliance. Still can't get enough of Terrible Beat.

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How about overrated composers?

>>3796792
lol

>>3796792
I kek'd

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>>3796792
dude
arpeggios
lmao

>>3785971
One of my favs
Toshiya Yamanaka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvHfayX1de8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWY5AktxzJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym8ALksrXZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvHfayX1de8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXMB_JxQxWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIbMqM0Yh3g

>>3798707
one more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1gvwkqlMAQ

>>3798718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKmCyxSU1p8

>>3798707
>Agave
My nigga
Raid Blue was also a favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9PM_gJrN5E

>>3791923
>>3796906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGa_OAZFY3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTunASxsA08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVCJDEkeq08

>>3796906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW3bsU_9rwY
really twists your axons

Takayuki Nakamura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbVAehbpi70&index=1&list=PLFSHdeZ6gP03TffQ_YbiIRofIsnMVXvYS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMqUB0HTaAs&list=PLFSHdeZ6gP03TffQ_YbiIRofIsnMVXvYS&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEn0sK0JK0A&list=PLFSHdeZ6gP03TffQ_YbiIRofIsnMVXvYS&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFAQAe81P-s&list=PLFSHdeZ6gP03TffQ_YbiIRofIsnMVXvYS&index=11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_zAxPqKa8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrltm5LfUrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYRfBISyu9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avgqxAkvGes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkKagCEsI3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLuw2x0BEH8&index=2&list=PL72A3A35DAAFF7D4C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cafOqN_W7-0&list=PL72A3A35DAAFF7D4C&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rYwRH7Ilfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T-WVwLVp2E&list=PLJx3LQtOJwN0kCK2O2LsweWBGoHPVSp9b&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYzcMJCv8Ds&index=5&list=PLJx3LQtOJwN0kCK2O2LsweWBGoHPVSp9b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJJbHfXOw8&list=PLJx3LQtOJwN0kCK2O2LsweWBGoHPVSp9b&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF83UyBOw2c&index=8&list=PLJx3LQtOJwN0kCK2O2LsweWBGoHPVSp9b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCkxpJl0fgg&index=10&list=PLJx3LQtOJwN0kCK2O2LsweWBGoHPVSp9b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U16gmeuofFI&list=PLJx3LQtOJwN0kCK2O2LsweWBGoHPVSp9b&index=17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm0A91FXfdI&index=27&list=PLJx3LQtOJwN0kCK2O2LsweWBGoHPVSp9b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLt2x7AvmEQ&list=PLJx3LQtOJwN0kCK2O2LsweWBGoHPVSp9b&index=28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idbs0-OIC-I&index=40&list=PLJx3LQtOJwN0kCK2O2LsweWBGoHPVSp9b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2W5iXgjBjc&index=41&list=PLJx3LQtOJwN0kCK2O2LsweWBGoHPVSp9b

>>3786053
>almost all japanese people
what the fuck? anyways, i love the shit out of alexander brandon and michiel van den bos. the unreal soundtrack is very good imo.

>>3799428
Deus Ex soundtack is their magnum opus

>>3790581
agreed, in the sense that both the Euro composer stock that were drawn in for games were at their best, better than American or Japanese composers in terms of compositions - but also that their music almost never fit the games they were working on.

I do like Chris Huelsbeck though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mafip6Am99c

The single reason why Giana Sisters is even relevant.

Especially love Rob Hubbard. That Madden title theme is a masterpiece, but he has too many good tracks to count.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIA_0cvS2gQ
The famous Monty Mole theme

>>3799428
This is a website for weebs. Expect weebs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5h_Wu7QRpM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ejoGVeqzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y6r0m3-ZAs

>>3790565
geezz i just had a pounding eargasm

>>3799286
huh didnt know he did Ehrgeiz no wonder the music was so good. absolutely loved the dungeon mode.

>>3799545
>but also that their music almost never fit the games they were working on.
I see this kind of thing posted all the time but, imo there aren't a lot of times that the music doesn't fit the game.

>>3799593
funny thing, I mistook him for Takenobu Mitsuyoshi which is his co-composer for Daytona and Virtua Fighter 2

>>3799546
I bet that Utopia tune is from the same composer of Top gear

>it was
kek

Forgot a few.

>>3800279
a few what?

>>3800112
A: What made you think that.
B: They all are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiDnStAM6po
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo_0ekFzE98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3DnPJV6bcQ

>>3799570
i just ordered the game for its soundtrack

>>3799428
>goes to 4chan
>guys what's all this weebshit?
>anyone here think GEMS is underrated?

>>3800881
GEMS kinda is underrated

For something a little different, I'd like to mention Chris Granner and Brian Schmidt of Williams' pinball division.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqG5LzcnVCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qwofFFpBl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTrNsxNRHXM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYxjEAXrLho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMIp5nG-C3o

>>3787140
T's Music has great crew of composers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXpYbf3mscY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH5LUTlTIBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlTURP3fhcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCXLPHXnu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-FUrP8meYs

koichi sugiyama

uematsu a shit

also ayako saso and shinji hosoe

and fucking ZUNTATA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6ZfxpWwEVw

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Surprised nobody posted Frank Klepacki of Westwood Studios

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SQVvfFTcEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGuuOdD6iY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUj05zld8T0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRzpTGSHcLs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSQQTeFwPwc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3JDtLKojhU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4saQchkrsM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4AUY-v1nsE

>>3800864
which one?

>>3798707
my man, this is how true old school stuff sounds...nostalgic

>>3799545
holy shit this brings back memories!! playing giana sisters in the sellar of a childhood friend.

fuck where has the time gone...

Hiroaki Sano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxdtkXkcfRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0IxAKCxyOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsJDncK6oiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWedEQ3nDuo

Tsukasa Masuko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf1xFe-1xLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULzfRa4Isdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsfoGWn0bzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoSa0Ut9GPg

>>3804278
>snes blazeon
yuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ALdSI4r4o

>>3804278
>Tsukasa Masuko
yes finally another one who understands
>>3804372
alpha is the better track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3t2MXKX5Hk

>>3804278
>>3804375
>no Devil Summoner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0kvG-5WKoM&index=2&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKh3DadSHK8&index=3&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARHbXDAhyZI&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b8ojoWdxFk&index=5&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP9Lbdl6t3o&index=8&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=povlp30FzkQ&index=10&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ_NKAd3Ams&index=11&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ROouUzEdXw&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGNO_OBTZjs&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nStRevc0YrY&index=14&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IstxfHpOQf0&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1ebQ_G-dV0&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kzC9236CgA&index=17&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwfUfF5e0bg&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PATGHVN8F78&index=19&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD66TPvS1HY&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyG6Ox_Aus&index=26&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQjaEe18afs&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3jDdHiN1qs&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H12vaiV-u4g&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-ElUgZZmQo&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGF22MOILTU&index=33&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7jjeIvbU0&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYbHrjN0XmU&list=PLA7177B499ABAF1FF&index=37

>>3804383
>not giten megami tensei
https://youtu.be/Vqx0pNvRmwE?t=145

>>3785971
N_ _ _ _ U_ _ _ _ _ _

>>3804109
Batman & Robin, without box. Found it cheap. Kudos to you for the great taste.

>>3801869
>and fucking ZUNTATA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB406e71cuU&list=PLwIB6-hLUdhK1nF2sbLHh1FWHiRxp2T47
eh

>>3801869
>Zuntata
My nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeKF8IsxCZA
>that sawtooth at 3:26
Sweet Jesus

>>3804431
just a heads up, the game itself isnt that great. its extremely long without a save feature, but the music makes up for it. It will sound much better than the youtube versions which were compressed and sounded pretty bad. Id also reccomend sub-terrania too. its a fun game to play and the music is good as well

>>3793505

I dunno that it all sounds that samey, he just has a distinct style and is willing to be a little less "hummable" than most everyone else.

Also he really likes trumpets.

>>3805741
Zuntata is so tight. Love that Sawtooth.

>>3785971
Yasuhisa Watanabe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAFe8jSAs4k

>>3785971
Ryo Unemitsu. The progressive build up in this track is phenominal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa05aWdkSPU

>>3807470
He is more of a Arranger, though but a godddamn good one at that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpJBjDtCWiA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUJtyvyLmZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HozAnvz-gBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRmPsZxcUUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp4NNv8LTmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38dR1YYulio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-glsntzU0Q4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBaQoL7ycNs&list=PLzFTGYa_evXghvFMdAxHMnraBcAcTf8u6&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2orjNFZ8dQ&list=PLzFTGYa_evXghvFMdAxHMnraBcAcTf8u6&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihFMMP2JcUM&list=PLzFTGYa_evXghvFMdAxHMnraBcAcTf8u6&index=9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfAbQAFzkeM&list=PLzFTGYa_evXghvFMdAxHMnraBcAcTf8u6&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DNt3ZaS6zQ&index=12&list=PLzFTGYa_evXghvFMdAxHMnraBcAcTf8u6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIN4POrvjL4&list=PLzFTGYa_evXghvFMdAxHMnraBcAcTf8u6&index=16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntJ0hzJ4wP4&index=18&list=PLzFTGYa_evXghvFMdAxHMnraBcAcTf8u6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvAShxQrk64&index=25&list=PLzFTGYa_evXghvFMdAxHMnraBcAcTf8u6

>>3807490
Love that Falcom sound.

>>3808115
Keishi Yonao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNnnwkH0KWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz1TgAEhY9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgFk11w1e8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNkQ499QUP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV_QRGAfhLM
you groove you lose

>>3790565
tune