FUCK THIS GAME ITS TOO HARD

>>3777553
The only 'hard' part is Welcome to the Machine.

Git gud.

>>3777553
I'd say its about mid range difficulty for a genesis game.

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>>3777553
You must first learn to think as a dolphin.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s-knqVbghIA

>>3777634
I just found out clams regain my health
Thank you anon

>>3777561
Welcome, my son.
Welcome to the machine.
What did you dream?
It's alright, we told you what to dream.

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>>3777553

this one might be more your speed

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>>3777553
>>3777634

Reminder that E.C.C.O is intended to be played in a sensory deprivation tank while under the influence of LSD.

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Imagine playing ECCO 4 in /vr/ virtual reality in an Isolation tank filled with LSD. You even been so high you became the dolphin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHXmmzfNREY

>>3777642
this is a legit underrated game.

>>3777663
meant for>>3777647

>tfw no Ecco III to conclude the epic story

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>>3777691

>>3777561
Asterite cave is pretty stupid too

>>3777691
>>3777712

http://www.seganerds.com/2016/06/18/a-prototype-of-the-canceled-ecco-ii-sentinels-of-the-universe-is-now-available-for-download/

>>3777712
It's not related to the first two games, though.

>>3777712
love that game! Still play it today. Shame the last kickstarter for an ECCO game wasn't successfull, I would really really like to have an ECCo game for PS4...

>>3777553
GIT GUD

>>3777647
While a dolphin humps your leg.

>>3777553
Play the Rev. 01 version. It's the Japanese version (with reasonable checkpoints) but in english.
http://web8.orcaserver.de/ecco/downloads/emulation/genesis.php

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>>3777719
>Ecco's creator, Ed Annunziata, pushed for the rights to develop another Ecco game and continue the story with a new game on either the Sega 32X or the Sega Saturn. Over the years, Sega has repeatedly turned down these requests to allow Annunziata to continue the story, despite being pitched as recently as 2013, nearly 20 years after The Tides of Time was released. Although a sequel was never developed, Ed has shared some details about what would have happened in the third game.

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>>3779541
Is there still hope?

https://www.google.com/amp/venturebeat.com/2016/12/16/ecco-the-dolphin-creator-settles-lawsuit-with-sega-possibly-paving-way-for-series-rebirth/amp/?client=safari

>>3777637
Just make sure they're farting out clear bubbles and not noxious poopy brown bubbles.

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>>3777561
This jump is probably the hardest thing in the game. I still haven't even found a youtube video of someone doing it. Everyone takes the shortcut to avoid it.

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>>3781113
lol wrong gif

>>3781113
That just gets funnier the more I watch it.

>>3777712

The graphics of this game were truly impressive for the time.

Had my buddy play this. He quit after getting frustrated trying to get that huge jump in Deep City

>>3781124
This dude don't know bout the secret vent

>>3777642
>used to think I played ecco all the time as a kid
>it was actually ecco jr.

>>3782024
Can you not read? That's what I'm talking about. Everyone now just seems to use the shortcut to bypass it. Super lame.

>>3782912
For some reason I think that's the intended way and that the jump is just a red herring that happens to be doable.

>>3782919
Huh I never thought of it that way. I originally played it in the pre internet days and never thought to look for another route so I just tried the jump till I figured it out. I look at the shortcut at cheating. Almost might as well just teleport at that point.

>>3782946
That was sarcasm, dipshit.

>>3777642
>tfw this is the only Ecco game I've beaten

>>3777553
Completed the GG versions of 1&2, dropped the genesis original after 2-3 levels.

>>3777561
>The only 'hard' part is Welcome to the Machine.
well that is subjective

>>3777626
>I'd say its about mid range difficulty for a genesis game.
now that otoh just doesnt make any sense

what do you do with that dna strand that shoots lightning

>>3777663
Is this even a game? Is it even interactive in anyway?

Dolphins are such a 90s animal.

>>3783616
Hit three (maybe four) orbs of the same color.

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>>3782919
This is sort of how I feel about this. I (nor anybody I knew) never thought of using up and down because it's actually doable by timing your jumps right. I always tried to do it the jumping way but the few times I managed to get past the timer was up to 9:00 and I'd get a time over.

>>3784971
The difference is that part in Ecco doesn't expect you to do anything fundamentally different than you've been doing. It's just a test of your timing and skill with the jumping mechanics. The thing in Sonic is a new mechanic that gets thrown at you without indication that's what's happening.

>>3784974
How the fuck are you supposed to do it then?

>>3779541
Proof that modern day Sega is fucking stupid

>>3782024
There is a secret vent bypasing it?
WHERE?
When I was playing it I spent SO MUCH TIME
trying to learn exactly HOW to do those jumps that its not even funny.

>>3785349
Fuck knows. Either somehow get it by jumping or have really good eyesight and just happen to press up or down.

There was a guy who said that it was "explained in the manual", and when I called him out his bullshit he hurled the goalpost clear across the field and said it was in the Japanese manual which I also beat him on.

>>3787315
>There was a guy who said that it was "explained in the manual"
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/3249190/#3250187

>>3787316
Seems I misremembered, I called him out and he claimed it was a Japanese manual despite it being the US and JP manual side by side.

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>>3785349
>>3787315
You'll notice when you jump with Ecco that they're not static, like in some platformers if you hold left or right you can make him drift a little. That's basically the trick to the jump.

Start far on the left side of the corridor and swim as fast as possible then press right so you jump out of the water at an angle and immediately switch to left so he drifts a little and doesn't hit the corner. Once you know what you're doing it's not that bad, but you need to jump at the last possible moment and drift right away otherwise it's impossible.

Like I say back when I was first playing the game I had no idea there was a shortcut so it was just a fuckload of trial and error. Part of me thinks I should work out whatever bullshit I'd need to to stick it up on youtube just so people know it's possible.

>>3781124
>people found this maneuver hard
it was a pretty basic test that you were actually paying attention to the mechanics instead of fagging along the whole time
I would not even call it the fourth hardest part
never have I even thought a shortcut would be necessary at that point let alone looked for one

>>3787379
0/10

>>3787315
That's something I appreciated a lot about Nintendo, compared to Sega (I had all the consoles): Nintendo had a free hotline in my country, where you could call anytime and get reliable answers from competent adults any time you were stuck in any game.

In the 90s era where you had absolutely no way to know stuff because no Internet, that added incredible value to Nintendo games. For example, it saved me more than once in the toughest Mario levels.

With Sega games, when you were stuck somewhere... you were left alone with your problem.

>>3787543

That might explain why SNES owners tend to be bad at games or prefer easy genres like RPGs.

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>>3787543
This guy could be right >>3787558

Like with a lot of games, having to figure out how to beat Ecco on my own in the end made me both really good and love the game even more.

>>3787569
Yeah, but how many childhoods got ruined by that barrel in Sonic 3?

>>3787689
Come on anon, you don't really believe that meme do you?

>>3787689
The hang glider in Sonic 2 SMS was worse for me. I still cannot get past the 2nd level with the glider but I can pass the barrel now.

>>3788134
>hang glider in Sonic 2 SMS

Reminds me something, when was that?

>>3788202
Sky High Zone Act 1.

>>3788583
>see video on YouTube
>now remember this infuriating level, 25 years later

REEEEEEEEEEEE

I beat it late last year and it was the most satisfying thing I've done in my life

Then I destroyed Tides of Time in like three days

>>3777561

The only reason The Machine is harder than the Tube is because you have to beat the Queen in the same go or go back to the start.

>>3777626

I've got a pretty sizable Genesis library and outside of a few SHMUPs I can't think of anything harder. Maybe Chakan, I guess.

>>3777691

I would kill a man for Ecco Mania

>>3781124

I didn't know about the shortcut but I admit it took me a while, not as long as the Machine + Queen did though.

>>3788715
>Ecco Mania
Kek

I use the Ecco 1 and 2 Sega CD games more as music CDs these days than as video games.

>>3787689

We just beat it as knuckles.

>>3777712

god, this game is so fucking good

Why are we talking about /pol/itics in Ecco the Dolphin thread?

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>>3789239
Insecure Americans try to ruin everything. Just hide and ignore.

>>3788707
It's kind of sad, Tides of Time is really cool and still looks phenomenal but it doesn't give you the same challenge the first game does.

>>3789434
I just started playing ToT.
Was confused about lack of air meter until I remembered its a continuation of the first game where he gets this ability.

>>3777663
What is ecco 4? The dreamcast one?

>>3777712
I like this game a lot, but ecco is hard enough in 2 dimensions, adding the 3rd is just too much for me. I'm still at the great white shark near the very beginning

>>3788102
A lot of people must be retarded. I wasted 1, maybe 2 lives trying to jump on the barrel like the game had taught me up til that point. Then my video game instincts told me to try the directional buttons and it worked. Kinda stupid that you have to learn it through trial and error, but come the fuck on how is that overly cryptic if you've played one or two other video games in your life prior to that part in Sanic 3?

>>3789531
Totally agree. It's great but quite hard and one of the most claustrophobic games I've ever played.

>>3788707
hard mode ?

>>3789685
Hard mode isn't a lot different from normal.

>>3789551

The problem is the false positive, it seems like you can do it by jumping.

And you technically can with two players playing perfectly.

>>3789685

Yes, hard mode. I dunno what the difference is but I figured after Ecco it would be blasphemy to play it any other way. ToT was still ten times easier. Still a great game though.