HELL KICKING DOWN ON YOUR DOOR

=== NEWS ===

[Highway to Hell] First phase of mapping cut off, build to be released soon
https://warosu.org/vr/thread/3740943#p3743242

[Til 4-1] QUMP is still going!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zlfb2U2VCeS70uS6Klc2ZEOC9KtnYyCyBXEmeetjh0c/edit

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders in mid-March; now is a good time to mirror any Doom-relevant files available through this

[1-19] SLADE v3.1.1.5 released
http://slade.mancubus.net/index.php?page=downloads
http://slade.mancubus.net/index.php?page=changes&v=3.1.1.5

[1-17] Circle of Demons mod trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIx_DcY_z0M

[1-16] Anon map pack 'Disjunction' beta 2 released
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1NxOZlEf5aNNGgwVG9SaDdjS28/view?usp=sharing

[1-15] BloodCM dev working on a sourceport called gdxBlood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqg62IUrZwg

[1-15] A maintenance fork of GZDoomBuilder is released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=54957

[1-15] Turok source code found!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONEy_ybKWsg
https://youtu.be/BbvL-qb0YS4

[1-14] D4T, a simplified fork of D4D compatible with Zandronum 3.0 and D-Touch, is released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=54750

[1-14] First release candidate for Trenchboom 2.0.0 available!
https://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2.0.0-RC1

[1-11] sock releases a new map for Arcane Dimensions
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61398

[1-11] GZDoom 2.3.2 released
http://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=7482

[1-10] NoClip (Doom 4 Documentary) to do an interview series, starting with John Romero
https://twitter.com/dannyodwyer/status/818531973815791622

[1-10] New bug tracker for the ZDoom family
http://mantis.zdoom.org/view_all_bug_page.php?project_id=0

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PROTIP: If you would like to submit any news or your personal map or mod releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

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1st for amateur mapping

2nd for where the fug do I find a decent Doom-like font online so I can make an M_DOOM

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3rd for jelly train goes down the tracks

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Fourth for A SECRET HAS BEEN REVEALED

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4th for hamburgers

>>3753047
God damn it.

>>3753043
It's called DooM Regular

>>3753039
Isn't that every map released for Doom no matter the quality?

what does the "alternate armor bonus" option in smooth doom?

>>3753073
Doesn't that just replace the sprite with a high-res one? I think I disabled it because it looked out of place. Try it out.

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Something, something screenshot Saturday

>>3753085

I don't see any change

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>>3753097
really gotta flesh out the feet on this one.

>>3753097
The minigun looks tiny

>>3753107
Well he is intended to be fuckhuge

>>3753106
I'd give a charred flesh appearance to his skin tone. bet it'd look baller.

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>Look at Quake III's singleplayer for the first time literally ever
>Ranger is Tier 1

Bull fucking horse shit.

>>3753113
Probably, there is a normal map it just isn't implemented yet. Thing is that it's going to be rendered out as sprites at low resoultions so I'm trying to avoid small details because they'd either not show up or look terrible. Someone posted a model to sprite guide on an old thread and I'm going of that. Also I'm figuring out rigging and IKs out as I'm going along.

>>3753097
>>3753106
Anything specific you're making these for?

>>3753097

Penis Brain.

>>3753123

I think he's completing the DooM 64 roster.

>>3753126
Dickhead

>>3753129
I know, but is he doing it for a specific mod, or is he just making it as a free resource for anyone to use, with no planned use for him self?

>>3753121
ganbatte, anon

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>>3753113
Gave it a shot, might keep it.
If anyone asks, yes he does have 7 eyes

>>3753137
>is he doing it for a specific mod, or is he just making it as a free resource for anyone to use
Both actually, I might have to outsource for the rigs though if mine keep ending up like shit.

Why are gameplay mods so popular among the gzdoom crowd? I could never get into them myself, either because I'm overpowered, or because the enemies are overpowered. Doesn't often feel like balance was given as much thought it should be.

>>3753152
Because when you play the same game for 23 years you want to switch it up.

>>3753161
So people are so sick of doom that they need gameplay mods to even enjoy it anymore?

>>3753163
I know you're just shitposting, but you wouldn't eat the same meal for every meal every day for 23 years if given the option to have variety.

>>3753165
Variety is great. But what is so varied about playing a gameplay mod all the time? Wouldn't it be more varied to go back and forth between stock and gameplay mods?

>>3753170
>Wouldn't it be more varied to go back and forth between stock and gameplay mods?
That's exactly what I do.

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What are some decent wads that use (G)ZDoom specific features? Preferably with some jumping and light platforming.

Already played through KDiZD, Starter pack, Cheogsh series, Temple of the Lizard Men 1-3 and Pirate Doom (also halfway through PRODOOMER v2, but its too annoying and tedious in its copypaste).

picunrelated.

How do I load DemonSteele with Scythe 2 to get the Scythe 2 new enemies? I am loading Scythe 2 after DemonSteele and I still get dakimakuras.

has anyone ever been as far as decided as to implement Rope Swinging in Doom?

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Polyobject doors everyone !

>>3753361
HOW.
WHY.

>>3753361
What am I looking at?

>>3753397

Tons and tons of swinging doors.

>>3753389

How ? With patience
Why ? Well, I'm remaking the old zombies TC and since it's supposed to happen in contemporary locations, I'm replacing all the doom doors with swinging doors. It's fucking tedious though, I have to write a script for almost every door so they block sound when closed...

I might be a secret masochist.

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Man, this is gonna be a bad map.

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>>3753045

>>3753045
What happened?

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>>3753442
Some fuss on the ZDoom forums from a couple of years ago that ultimately got SgtMark permab& from the ZDoom forums.

I just like Eric's post. And yeah there was a rebuttal and response to that too.

>>3753447
Oh, I thought it was something more recent.

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>>3753449
Don't believe there's been any more hoopla since 0.I and BD64.

How do you guys organize your Doom stuff?
Especially if you use more than one source port.
Do you just say 'fuck it' and throw it all in one folder?

>>3753458
I put all my source ports in separate folders in a Doom folder, then have a WAD folder with shortcuts to every source port I have then just drag WADs onto my source port of choice.

>>3753458
One folder for GZDoom with a metric fuckton of .bat files for both launching and drag-and-dropping.
One folder for Doom Retro.
One folder with folders for all three Chocolate ports.
One folder for Doom64.

All of these shoved into a folder called "FUCKING HELL"

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>>3753458
I'm a nooblet but this is how things are currently sorted:
Different folders for different ports.
Folders contain mods that work for that port.
Drag and drop. I'll figure out how to do batch files and whatnot one day.

>>3753458
I just say fuck it and throw everything in one folder
... my Skulltag/Zandybam folder has at least 2,000 files in it as a consequence

>>3753481
That's what I used to do. I kinda want to avoid that since I had to actually look for the ZDoom.exe while drag-n-dropping wads.

>>3753469
Batch files are piss-easy. Ex.
>gzdoom sunlust.wad hd.wad colourfulhell.wad -warp 29 -fast -skill 4

Everything with - is just optional argument.

>>3753543
>gzdoom sunlust.wad hd.wad colourfulhell.wad -warp 29 -fast -skill 4
But wouldn't you need to spell out the filepath if you've got the WADs in a different folder to your executable?

>>3753553
Yup. Just "wads/sunlust.wad" etc. should work.

>>3753421
Is that supposed to be a sector-based representation of a natural rocky coast? If so, it's looking pretty great so far.

>>3753562
Ah. That actually works. Thank you.
Time for me to start stringing multiple mods together.

>>3753465
>Doom Retro

literally why.

>>3753618
What's so bad about Doom Retro?

>>3753580
Yeah, natural rock and glacier. Hopefully I am done with it next week.

>>3753621
What's good about it?

>>3753115
You can play as him, if that can calm you down.

>>3753638
First of all, that's not how conversations work. You have to prove your point before using it.

Second, it's like Chocolate, but with a nice launcher and removed limits. Plus fixed bugs, but that's less important.

>>3753643
>what's a rhetorical question
Everything special it does can be done with Decorate.

If you want Vanilla but nicer, there's PrBoom+

>>3753649
>Everything special it does can be done with Decorate.
Except GZDoom sucks ass on my PC.

>>3753653
>666
Noice.

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>>3753228
what the fuck is that

>>3753640
>calming down
>as Ranger
Pretty much impossible.

>>3753656
A large and intricate semi-nonlinear map.

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/50158-wip-vela-pax-beta-2-1-out-now-with-1-more-stuff/

>>3753657
Ranger's just crazy.
Doomguy is the one that's pissed AND crazy.

>>3753228
>>3753658
what the fuck, i have vela pax but i don't recognise it

thats fucking huge

>>3753660
Excella is the very first map, wtf anon.

MAP THEME
NUMBER AND TYPE OF MONSTERS
TYPES OF HAZARDS
GAMEPLAY GIMMICKS
and any other shit you can think of for a map
must be vanilla and not contain monster/weapon
go

>>3753664
LINEAR CORRIDORS & DEFAULT TEXTURE
FUCKLOADS OF CYBERDEMONS
INSTAKILLING PITS
FISTS ONLY

>>3753661
Excuse me for not recognizing Fuscello automall sized maps.

>>3753664
Porta potty in the middle of nowhere that turns out to be the front for an underground UAC base.
Even spread, late Doom 2 density, leaning towards mancubi and revenants maybe.
Getting crushed and melted.
Activating machinery and level hazards to progress.

>>3753652
Fair point, it's terribly optimized.

It should run reasonably in Software mode though.

>>3753669
apperantly there's no instant death sector control here but hey

https://www.mediafire.com/?10f2d66d7btqg52

>>3753698
>instead of instakill pits it's pits full of cybies
I like your style.

>>3753028
New version of Smooth Doom is out.
-fixed error messages from bad jumpstates in blue/green blood
-fixed error messages from bad jumpstates in BFGflash
-improved alignment on Doom64 flashes
-fixed Rocket Launcher not having 64flash option

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mkkqiypo8q4hm88/SmoothDoom.pk3

>>3753752

is there a single ketchup, droplets whatever that works with this?

>>3753760

I can't even make droplets work alone

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Has anyone ever seen grey alien sprites done in doom?

I looked through the Ancient Aliens wad, which has alot of new textures, but I'm not sure if they have a grey.

>>3753796

Fairly sure there's Greys in the old shitty shareware game "alien cabal"

I think someone ripped them if you need these

>>3753796
I remember seeing Greys in Reelism.

>>3753752
does it include any of the changes made by the weapons only version?

if my doom 64 flashes aren't in then I have nothing to do with it.

The Doom link is STILL broken. Can we get a reupload?

>>3753861
Plasma rifle and BFG are still coming soon
Next update here's hoping

>>3753740
its supposed to be both

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>>3753796
>tfw no x-com.wad

>>3753280
You can't. The Scythe 2 enemies are dehacked. Dehacked is deprecated, Decorate replaces it no matter what.

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Those damn russians

>>3753862
>>3753027
>>3753028


About how many times are you going to ask?

http://www.mediafire.com/file/edy3dhdbp33pdg7/IWADS.zip

Anyone know any monster only randomizer mods that match well with vanilla aesthetics and firepower? I've been playing a lot of weapons only smooth doom and it would be greatly appreciated.

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how do i beat this level, lads

>>3753930
Holy trinity!
Serious player, H-Doom freak, Brutalfag kid

>>3753953
run in front of the cyberdemons and make them shoot the mancubi. And just you know...keep running

>>3753953
Shoot at things until they die.

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>>3753962
i mean the entire level but yea i got that part
>>3753964
ty

>>3753967
np

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i found the bfg at least

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>>3753930
>Hosting cyberdemon531

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Picunrelated, but is it possible to make a PK3/PK7 that would be password protected, but still readable by GZDoom?

>>3754050

Pretty much by definition, no; to open it, GZDoom will need to know the password, but then so will the user.

And anyway, PK3's are just renamed ZIPs, and I don't think you can password-protect them.

>>3754056
pk7 are 7-zip, so I think it would be possible to password them. But then, you'll need a custom fork of ZDoom that has password included in its code, so eh

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I've been talking to Kaiser about reversing the Doom 64 WAD -> ROM process (used to play Doom 64 EX) to allow you to play WADs you make in Doom Builder 64 on an N64 flashcart.

He is pretty busy but I'm looking forward to this if he figures it out

>>3754128
How many Doom64 wad are there?
Where can I find them?

>>3754152
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Doom64EX/index.php?s=0312fc753e1b25dfdf054d5ea4fbac8b&showforum=3
here and probably a lot more scattered on doomworld

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Fucking slimetrails.

>>3754128
I am almost 90% certain that I managed to do this before, but there's one step that I am missing to make everything work.

I'll be free sometime by the end of March and I'll be taking another stab at this.

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>>3754197
oh hey

sounds good

>>3753760
Only thing I know Droplets works with is HXRTC.

And I've only found HXRTC a good play on Oblige maps.

>>3754197

Good shit.
Thanks, Kaiser.

>>3754207
are you gonna do watch me die max after you get the time you want

>>3754219
I'll do a single run for the meme but honestly doom 64 is so bad for max runs

spawn prevention automatically ends your run and can happen accidentally very easily, and the difference between max and speed is smaller in this game compared to doom 1/2 since doom 64 requries so much killing already

>>3753953
get the bfg, take it apart slowly from there. use the invulns sparingly. the most dangerous part is very claustrophobic journey to the final arena.

man fuck doom. who wants to play some quake

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>>3754241

>>3754197
so, any words on the powerslave iso ripper? (or powerslaveEX at all?)
Also, will I live... again soon?

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kek

Anyone know why the Paindie (spawn 2-3 lost souls) state might not be working? Is there something hardcoded into the engine I should be aware of?

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>>3753946
Anyone?

>>3754312
Looks nice, what is it?

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Ancient Aliens is so hard

>>3754398
>filters
yea you just have to rush that level or else you get enveloped by the caco cloud

>>3754319
I can't remember, which is horseshit because I was just on the page.

>>3754403
Pls no bully it's just default gzdoom

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>>3754417
>implying there's anything wrong with filters

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Almost forgot that I have to attend lectures tomorrow.
The map's technically completeable, but I guess I will need to work with it for rest of the week.
I still need to shill Disjunction, although I feel bad about the earlier maps already.

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>>3753953
Run at their direction and punch them all to death!

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I present to you, Art Doom.

>>3754442
Plain linear, bilinear and trilinear filters? Yes, they just smudge shit out, I think it looks less pretty and crisp.

>>3754447
Listen, bud. You either make it into a proper mod/shader, or stop teasing us. Or not. I'm an anon, not a cop

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>>3754453
I'm trying I'm trying

>>3754476
That's not in game...

If it is, release it already.

>>3754447
>>3754476
>>3754518

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>>3754535
At least post the proper version

>>3753930
Props to him for playing Cabro's Legacy.

>>3754541
I didn't have it and couldn't find it. Thanks.

>>3754541
>Der Schrei der Ouchgesicht

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>>3754535
>>3754541

>>3754447
nice, I can use Prisma too anon

last night I dreamt I booted up doom except all the weapons were boleadoras and all doomguy's grunts were replaced by a whiny 12 year old voice

>>3754612
Anon liked this tweet.

>>3754612
you're just fishing for a doom_txt mention

>>3754275
see me in any quake game rn i'll rape u so hard with no lubricant. you think this is a fucking game?

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>>3754647

>>3754651
>seemingly functional minimap
tell me more

>>3754664
Doom Delta, they just released a new demo a few days ago.
The minimap is actually pretty demanding, i've got a beast of a rig and if I play in OpenGL I can see and feel small stutters while it's up.

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>>3754541
>>3754567

>>3754647
how considerate of you to employ lube on the rest of your victims

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>>3753930
Oh John still does Doom streams? I haven't watched in a while, nice.

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wtf

>>3754647

>i'll rape u so hard with no lubricant

implying I will not enjoy it

>>3754735
Hey you got lucky and got the ice cream

>>3754738
trust and believe me when I tell you I'll fuck you 'till you're crippled, faggot. don't get saucy with me.

>>3754029

[Metallica MIDIs intensify]

>>3754297
>Also, will I live... again soon?
not in your lifetime

Enjoy blood crossmatching while you can

>>3753458
Every source port has its own folder

Maps are in their own folders, within category folders and separated between doom 2 and doom 1. Categories are Deathmatch, maps (1-2), maps (3-19), maps (20+), and Oblige. Any maps that are for zdoom-based ports also have (zdoom) in their folder name.

Mods and TCs get their own folder.

Any yuropoors wanna play UT99 some time? Muricans who can handle 150 ms ping are welcome too.

>>3753458
I used to dump everything in a doom2 folder on the C drive, but recently I took to putting ports in their own folder to avoid conflicts. Better late than never.

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>>3753796
Reelism has some Grey Alien sprites taken from Duke Nukem Advance

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>>3753878
There was an XCOM-themed mod in development at some point, but then the project lead had a full-on autism meltdown about something or other and flamed out of the community entirely. I'm not sure if any of the assets are out there publicly?

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>>3754746
>lucky

>>3754778
>Duke Nukem Advance
You know. I beat that game at least twice and I don't remember a god damn thing about it.

Except the burger joint in the ... 2nd level? For some reason.

>>3754798
Hey the box didn't tell you to fuck off, so you got lucky.

>>3754029
What this needs is one of those time-wasting GIFs near the end to completely blueball somebody, like the MIB chat thing or RING RING

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>>3754807
>being eaten by ice-cream is lucky

>>3754820
Wait when the fuck did he make it dangerous?

>>3754820
Look, some people are into that, okay?

>>3754820

There are worse ways to die.

>>3754778
Those are from Alien Cabal

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>>3754827
But anon, vore is furry propaganda.

>>3754029
>>3754050
oWo what's this

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>>3754831
Nope. They're from Duke Advance. All the other assets from that game were ripped as well.

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>>3754829
Yeah.

Vlad Tepes (who invented butthurt) would often use impalement as a death sentence, long sharp pole, impaling a person through the anus up through the body. Very grotesque way to kill a man.

But sometimes, he had a special thing done, they would turn the pole around and use the blunt, rounded end, then grease it up with lard or fat, and then place the victim on the pole that way.
This would take quite a lot of time, the large rounded pole, using only your weight and gravity, would slowly press up through your body, killing you in an absolutely agonizing and drawn out manner.

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>>3754850
>45 58 113 226:10813
What fucking engine is it?

>>3753664
- Teleporting back and forth from UAC base (industrial) and Green Marble staging area
- 400 monsters, bunch of pain elementals too, please god use some pink demons and actual barons of hell
- archvile revenant pillars, and a revenant ziggurrat also built as such (*invincible revenant zugurrat - "the tower of power")
- there's a pair of cyberdemons at the end but monsters teleport in behind them so you cant just run past them, its a long ass corridor
(for +1 that long ass corridor has a bunch of barrels on the SIDES, and some pillars to stop rockets with enough clearance to not set off the barrels behind the rockets)

>>3753878
I tried working on one a few times with the edge sourceport in early 00s, dont got none of that stuff anymore.

> made a floor texture for the aqua-plastic used future looking spaceships
> had a jet harpoon gun for pistol slot which used the duke3d shotgun as a base
> had a Ion Armor soldier
> had the sonic pistol and sonic cannon

but I was kinda a kid at the time so it was overall slightly mashup

>>3754856
zandronum

>>3754735
Tribbles?

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>>3754647

>>3754876
It's ice-cream.
Demonic ice-cream.

>>3754443
revenants... revenants everywhere

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i love pcorf's intermission texts

>>3753932
So am I going to replace the yadisk link with this?

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Would you an agitator?

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>>3754962
I'd hit that.

with a rocket launcher

>>3754962
demons are for killing

>>3753953
Play through it with a gameplay mod that gives you significantly more firepower. I suggest Dreadnought.

>>3754968
You're right. They are.
>Carressing that angry, bony face
>You look passionately into it's eyesockets
>Both of you are about to climax
>It gets right up close to your ear
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>SWOOCE
>PAK

>>3753953
Play through it with a mod that makes you weaker so your skills improve faster. I recommend Hideous Destructor.

>>3754979
no you degenerate weeaboo fuck

remove demon from premises

>>3754987
>he didn't read the spoiler

damn, son

>>3754992
letting yourself get punched by revenants does not aid in destroying them

>>3754987
>weeaboo
but anon i dont do that.
i do lovecraft and giger

>>3754996
play some punchout with them, nigga

>>3755014
>love
do you love them, or LOVE them? ;)

>>3755027
Anon, no. That's Filthy.

>>3754856
>Floating hands
>Big head on uneven cylinder body

Is this meant to be some kind of Madness spinoff thing?

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>>3754447

My friend keeps insisting doom 1 and 2 are 3d games just because the rendering looks like it
I told him how there cannot be stuff on top of each other and even linked him some videos showing how the tech works
He asked if the game really just draws the pic on screen every frame
still he doesn't believe it, what do

>>3755092
Let him believe what he wants, some people are beyond helping.

>>3755092
>He asked if the game really just draws the pic on screen every frame
thats literally how every game engine ever works, thats why its called rendering in FRAMES per second, each frame is its own image. in modern engines you have different effects being rendered in passes before being composed into a frame.

>>3755092
>My friend keeps insisting doom 1 and 2 are 3d games

but they are

>>3755092
You're both a little dim desu

>>3755092
"there can not be stuff on top of each other"

But there can. Rockets can fly over/under some other objects (like floating cacos) via Z-coordinate checking.

All vertices and most objects have Z coordinates/height), and that makes Doom an actual 3D engine. Inability to do room over room and other limitations pay no factor in it.

People call it some bullshit terms like 2.5D just to differentiate between games that use sprites and games that use full-poly models.

Another use of such term is when 3D models are used to implement a 2D gameplay (Trine 1/2)

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=55040

metrood is saved by an aspiring entrepreneur, all hail the incoming new age of pffttttthahahahahahahahahahaha

>>3755206
>If anyone is able to give me something from the Planned Features list below, that'd be great. If anyone has the ability to get something in from the Wishlist, that'd be great too.

Oh my god.

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>>3755206

>>3755206
>Bugs
>Morph Ball - Can't pick things up,
that's not a bug you dense nigger

>>3755213
you could still pick up powerups in morphball in all the metroids. Many times have I morphballed somewhere to get more missiles

>>3755206
> Brutal Doom Compatibility - As of now, when Brutal Doom is applied, Samus is constantly firing infinite rockets. No idea why. I like the Imp behavior in that mod though...

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>>3755206
>Brutal Doom Compatibility

>>3755206
the guy sent me a pm asking for code help lol

>>3755092

It is 3D. Literally the only reason ROR doesn't exist in doom is to make render culling of non-visible sectors more resource efficient.

>>3755206
>If anyone is able to give me something from the Planned Features list below, that'd be great. If anyone has the ability to get something in from the Wishlist, that'd be great too.
>Planned Additions AKA: things that someone should pick up and work on
>Obviously, we could use some Music files to include into the core release, if anyone wants to give us some that they hold the rights to.
>Also, people who can refine the existing code would be useful.

What does this motherfucker plan on doing himself?

>>3755308
making the wiki

>>3754447
>>3754476
>>3754518
>>3755089
>not disabling the HUD first
Artless plebs

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Some connectivity to map09.

>>3754453
>>3754526
Real time deep dream is just a bit beyond tech at the moment. Maybe with GPU hyperthreading it might be possible.

That's not to say you can't make a hack that looks similar enough. That's what doom itself is, one big hack because realtime 3D wasn't feasable at the time.

>>3755330
I really love the style of your map, but I think you could gain a lot from an altered version of that metal texture with some adjustment to the hue. A bit of cooling and/or desaturation would go a long way of making it mesh better with the snow and ice.

I'm cutting down folder sizes so I'll only be rolling with 1-2 source ports.
Which ones should I have?

>>3755393
GZDoom / PrBoom+

>>3755396
This. Basically all you need in this day and age.

>>3754029
>map02 is mirrored

one
fucking
job

>>3755427
How else would you fit it in?

>>3755092

in gzdoom it IS 3d

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whats the difficulty of plutonia 2 and plutonia community project? also back to saturn x? demonfear? hellbound? I'm kinda tired of these ultra hard doom maps and would just like something like doom 2-plutonia desu

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>Tfw found out
FUCK YOU >>3755516. I'M GOING TO FIRE MORE HOMING MISSILES AT YOU THAN USUAL FOUR OUTING ME

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I know no one likes to read rants, but I'll post this anyway because I need to get it off my chest.

After an insane amount of work, I finished Community Chest, aka. No Ammo: The Megawad. I ended up cheating, because I don't enjoy the idea of having to chainsaw dozens of Barons and other tough enemies dead because the map only gives you 1-2 boxes of shotgun shells and that's it. I checked the map statistics at DoomWiki, and I'm not imagining it: most maps in CC1 really do have very few ammo pickups available compared to most other WADs. I watched some UV-max demos and I have no idea how they make their ammo last. The demos always pistol start, but I didn't. I scavenged every secret area, killed every enemy that drops ammo and carried some ammo from the previous levels and I still had to cheat, because it isn't enough.

The first few levels are good, but around map 6 or 7 it starts to go down and fast.

The WAD is also full of maps that aren't fun to play even when they have enough ammo. They're filled with annoying puzzles where you have to find switches hidden in walls that aren't marked in any way. You spend more time trying to figure out where to go next than killing demons. Map 29 is the worst. Little ammo (compared to how tough the enemies are), extremely frustrating puzzles, and it never ends because it's so huge. Go and read the walkthrough (https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP29:_Citadel_at_the_Edge_of_Eternity_(Community_Chest)#Walkthrough). See all those puzzles? They simply aren't funny. They just waste your time.

Thank $DEITY it's over now and I never have to play CC1 again. I tried it years ago and I ragequit, now I remember why. Never again. It is the most annoying and frustrating megawad I've ever played.

>>3755516
just try them

>>3755523
http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_infighting

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>>3755080
Of course. It's Yeelon.

basically one of krinkels jr. (kelzad) 's characters

>>3755206
>brutal metrood
i puked

I am gonna do it, I am gonna demo of Sunlust map21 UV-max.

It's kinda fun map.

>>3755206
This is going to fucking suck

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>>3755601
Oh, and yes. He DOES have two rows of teeth, like a shark would.

From my understanding, August Huffman was a crazy cunt, some random demon shitter possessed him; and then their souls fucked or something.

>>3755610
>>3755080
maybe i should stop cockteasing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tge6Czag

>>3755602
Yes, I did it!

... 2/4 secrets, 75% kills. Forgot if there was way to re-raise floor.
Oh well, it was in one go. Maybe I am not as bad as I think - although it is an easy map relatively.

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>>3755516
>agitatED skeleton
you stupid bitch

you stupid fucking bitch

i can't believe how dumb you are

>>3755248
I double dare you to post it in the thread before it gets locked, big boy

>>3755613
>maybe i should stop
Agreed

>>3755660
https://my.mixtape.moe/qdggvu.webm
Spend 2-3 minutes just wandering around trying to figure if I could get the invulnerability secret.

>>3755717
That's enough, you. Reveal your WEBM secrets.

>>3755720
https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter
Recording with shitty unoptimized OBS-setup.

>>3755717
>https://my.mixtape.moe/qdggvu.webm
Also you're wasting a fuckload of chaingun shots. Chaingun Snipe more.

>>3755724
>for retards
perfect

>>3755717
>>3755660
>>3755602

alright. pick me a map to suffer on

>>3755732
Sunlust Map20, Inverti in Darkness.

Or just play Disjunction.

>>3755736
What module is it talking about?

>>3755663
Nothing special, I was posting something I was working on in another thread and he replied to me there then pm'd me like a few hours later.

Doesn't beat the guy I was doing a collab project with last spring though. He had this neurotic messaging habit where he'd send pms, delete them, send new ones, and edit sent pms before I had the chance to read them. I think the record was one pm with 63(!!!) fucking edits before I had the chance to open it. Stopped talking to him when I realized he'd never do his part his part of the project and will never ever release anything but screenshots out of sheer frustration will all the hours and original code+art I'd wasted.

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>>3755206
>brutal compat

No, and fuck off.

>>3755752
Weird.

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This new "Leptis Magna" map in Arcane Dimensions really pissed me off.
Sure it's pretty and full of nice secrets, but yet so tedious. If you're going to put this many vorelings and lost souls in every fight, at least they should die in one hit otherwise this is just a frustration fest. The library section is also horribly unbalanced, I had to god mode to get past it because there's simply not enough ammo or health packs to make it through, unless by taking an extremely unobvious route that I'm unaware of. It also lacks shortcuts everywhere to have easier access to secrets you've missed early on. At some point you just want to move on.

For a large city map, ad_swampy was so much better.

>>3755736
Whoever said this was pistol-start completable needs to be fucking raped.

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>>3755830
Seriously. Look at this horseshit. There's only two places you can even go and they're congested deathtraps.

If it ain't the fuckin' souls, it's the fuckin' souls.

>>3755846
even on HNTR i can't do that one

>>3755849
that said it has been beaten to death by speed runners.

KillerDog745 PRBoom v2.5.1.4cl9 9:20
0xf00ba12 PRBoom v2.5.1.4cl9 10:25
KillerDog745 PRBoom v2.5.1.4cl9 11:24
0xf00ba12 PRBoom v2.5.1.4cl9 12:04
0xf00ba12 PRBoom v2.5.1.4cl9 13:23
KillerDog745 PRBoom v2.5.1.4cl9 14:49

http://doomedsda.us/wad2658.html

>>3755849
It's because there's virtually zero fucking room to do anything. You either get fucked against one pillar or the other.

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>its a map where you're supposed to rely on monster infighting
closed game, shift deleted wad, 0/5 stars on doomworld

>>3755857
i find there's not enough ammo to deal with the monsters as you are attacked on all sides, and most of the floor is damaging so even if you dodge all attacks your health is whittled down. and then the chaingunners appear.

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>>3755856
>UV Speed Krankdud PRBoom v2.5.1.4cl9 0:49

>49 seconds
>49
>SECONDS
>in THIS shithole

WHAT IN FUCK?

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>>3755863
I honestly find that it's not too bad, ammo-wise, unless you're trying to 100% kills.

The only real threat the map has is the lost souls making dodging next to impossible because they keep floatin' in the way like fuckin' retards.

>>3755869
you can get up on the ledge you start facing and skip lots of it. the yellow key can be ignored, the monsters in the red key area avoided, then the ledge used again to reach the red door, finally teleporting to the exit and archvile jumping past the spider.

>>3755875
ah that's probably a big difference between us - i don't consider a map "beaten" until all the monsters are dead.

>>3755882
so you basically don't actually play the map, gotcha

>>3755886
it's called a speed run for a reason.

also i'm not the runner, i just described what i saw in the demo.

Did whomever make map4 for disjunction forget to place half the ammo, or is this one of those meme maps where you're supposed to avoid enemies or kill most by berserk fist?

>>3755891
I haven't even gotten out of the start area. I can usually manage most slaughter maps, but this is retarded.

>>3755809
I liked it but and didn't notice the problem with the ammo. This said, I did A LOT of backtracking.

btw, Terror fuma is my favourite map of the pack. It nails the flow and is fun to just explore.

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>>3755846
I did say it to specifically see you suffer, it is one of the tougher maps in the mapset, perhaps even by virtue of the red key-encounter.

>>3755901
Sunlust is very difficult, with map20 being stand out. I'd recommend other maps to torture with. 1-10 are manageable, 11-19 kinda too, but on tougher side. 20 is torture. Last third is terrifying outside of earlier maps, 29 being a particular standout.

>>3755894
Oops
It's intentionally tight on ammo, so it kinda starts with a pseudo-tyson. You can find a secret SSG at the start.

Reposted because bad crop.

>>3755092
Classic Doom plays less like a FPS and more like a top-down shooter in first-person.

>>3755926
stop watching that youtube video

>>3755926
Classic Doom plays like an FPS by definition. It literally, figuratively, objectively, metaphorically, and dogmatically defined the genre.

>>3755926
Don't talk to me or my son ever again.

>top-down shooter in first-person.
what is this even supposed to mean

>>3755926
No, it's literally a shooter from the first person perspective you fucking communist.

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>>3755947

>>3755951
>>3755951
>No need to aim up
>Everything has infinite height, from cacodemons, to rockets, to hitscans, to explosions
>No diagonal planes, just 90 degree angles straight up
>Rooms literally cannot exist over or under each other
Hmm...I wonder what genre of game also has such mechanics.

>>3755961
>no need to aim up
>everything has infinite height

both of these are objectively wrong

>>3755961
>Everything has infinite height
No it doesn't.

>>3755961
>everything has infinite height
This is incorrect, you moron.

>>3755963
>>3755964
>>3755965

I have been literally blocked by Cacodemons 20 feet """above""" my head.

The Icon of Sin is literally designed around the fact that everything has infinite height.

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>>3755926
here's your (you)
don't post again

>>3755962
>No need to aim up
Wrong, the game will aim up for you when needed. In a sense.

>Everything has infinite height, from cacodemons, to rockets, to hitscans, to explosions
No, they don't.

>No diagonal planes, just 90 degree angles straight up
Fucking irrelevant. That aside, the engine has no problem supporting slopes, it just wasn't implemented.

>Rooms literally cannot exist over or under each other
It's not outside the engine's capabilities, it's just another thing which wasn't done.

It doesn't stop being a FIRST PERSON shooter, just because the way the world is rendered may not be described as 3D in some more typical modern manners.

the correct answer is of course the height of an actor is either infinite or finite depending on what it is being tested against. player or other monster = infinite, missile collision = finite, missile explosion radius damage = infinite, etc.

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>>3755967
(you)

it's based around splash damage you fucking retard

>>3755967
>I have been literally blocked by Cacodemons 20 feet """above""" my head.
You will not go under a cacodemon, but other objects might.

>icon of sin
Explosions have infinite height, you hit the wall above Romero and the splash damage hits him.
It's basically built on quirks and improvisation but that doesn't mean the game isn't in the first person perspective.

also i believe carmack said in a tweet that the renderer is 3d but the physical model is 2d.

>>3755979
>the physical model is 2d.
how come you can shoot over ledges then

the webm doesnt want to uplaod i wasted time fuck

to disjunction

>>3755972
This. The third dimension is basically partially implemented, so saying the game is 2.5d is not so wrong.

>>3755982
i don't bloody know i didn't write the bloody game.

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>>3755206
>I've been in talks with Terminus to reboot his abandoned project

This is a slight misrepresentation, it's more he couldn't get a radsuit item working and asked me to fix it, and I did.
Then he started talking at me in great length about his level ideas in between bringing up MLP stuff.

Also I really like that the entire post is just one fucking gigantic wishlist asking other people to help.

>>3755995
LOL I wish I were as popular as you mate.

>>3755995
Typical joined-zdf-in-2016 behavior desu

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>>3755995
>Then he started talking at me in great length about his level ideas in between bringing up MLP stuff.

>>3755995
>it's more he couldn't get a radsuit item working and asked me to fix it, and I did.
i have high hopes for the project

>>3755206
>Destructible Boxes - some guy named "Kodi" on another thread

This is a fantastic way to credit people.

So I decided to do a cursory Google for "Rockstar Raccoon" to see who this guy is and

oh

oh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXEhYcYUjME

oh

>>3756005
I didn't agree to do it for him and he did not ask about listing me either. He won't get the code because it turned out it doesn't even bloody work

oh boy this is gonna turn into a cringe thread quick

>>3756005
Good enough. I know who that is, it's the guy who made the point and click adventure interface.

>>3756010
He must be flattered as shit rn.

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>>3755971
>mfw unironically played nothing but vanilla doom 2 with risen 3D and HD textures as my first real doom expirience because i simply didn't know any better and i was 10 at the time

>>3756007

Wow, Death Grips is really stepping their game up.

>>3755995
>This is a slight misrepsentation
More like major misunderstanding.

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>>3756007

>>3756014
im positively blushing

>>3756015
I forgot Risen 3D existed.

In retrospect that shit was ugly.

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>>3756020
You're adorable, you fucking madman you.

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>>3755995
>Then he started talking at me in great length about his level ideas in between bringing up MLP stuff.

Even I wouldn't smear my furshit in your face. Some people have no decency.

>>3756040
>game looks good

>>3756040
Looks like a bubblegum diarrhea shitgasm

>>3756054
I was thinking more "lung cancer phlegm"

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>>3756040

What wads pair well with D4D? I feel like playing something with some lasting progression.

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Dropping work on my Highway to Hell mansion map in favor of everyone's favorite theme (TECHBASE!) just because it's easier to design around, whereas I wasn't getting anywhere with the mansion. RIP. Still going to try to make it interesting.

>>3756040
>look great
no one could type that with a serious face, I had trouble realizing what it was

>>3756076
The first time I played with D4D was Japanese Community Project.

You should also play with shyntdoom. These three things combined works well.

>>3756082
>shyntdoom

huh?

>>3756083
synthdoom

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>>3756083
https://mega.nz/#!KlBiAJDC!PuPUNjIjKdqK6NISzhQlWs8I7hUIrIkpvSuOyRnH4uE

thank me later

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Where the fuck do I upload this disjunction webm that isn't 403 forbidden?

First map done.

With DRLA because seu mi

>>3756101
You can use /wsg/ if it is small enough or some 3rd party website ( mixtape.moe, for example )

>>3755846
To be fair its Map 20

isnt that the one where the intermission text says its a fortress of hell or something?

>>3755875
hurry just keep pressing the door-close button while we figure out what we're gonna do, yeah thats right we'll just keep shutting the door every time they open it.

> hey marty, get the SSG, every time it gets open waist high I want you to put two shells through it

> the fucking trick door hack, at least until you fuck it up


>>3755885
chiming in, actually id say I dont consider it beaten until all the readily accessible monsters are wiped

but some dudes sitting up in a parapet somewhere in a place ive already moved off from, or a Cyber thats just gonna be a pain in the ass to deal with . . . ill gladly leave those behind.

As long as its above about 93% kills im okay with it

> mfw a Cyber for all its glory, is still only 1 COUNTKILL, albiet a bitter 1 kill to leave behind


>>3755974
ironically I always felt the BFG should fuck up romero but since it has no splash damage it does nothing to the icon

that kinda sucks, but whatever

> and then guess what, in quake 2 now it does have splash damage, in fact twice as much, mostly to make it harder to use it at point blank range like you're supposed to do in doom


>>3756078
this looks pretty good actually, though its not uber detailed I would drop my hot rocket in it

>>3756081
What was it?