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What are some retro games with deep crafting systems; weapons,

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What are some retro games with deep crafting systems; weapons, armor, jewellery, etc. It doesn't matter the genre or platform.
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Star Ocean 1 and 2 are all that come to mind. In 2 you can craft a bounced cheque that constantly drains your money until you sell it to a shop (and you have to pay them to take it!)
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Legend of Mana has fun crafting systems. You can make weapons, armor, instruments, and golems. You can also raise pets and grow food.
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>>3750990
Seconding Star Ocean. The third one turns it up a notch by making the ultimate weapons so goddamn awful that equipping them is a really bad idea.

Until you start some item crafting to polish them up.
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>>3751013
was about to post this. especially the golem "AI". too bad the game's so easy that all those crafting becomes unnecessary.
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>>3750956
Vagrant Story?
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>>3750956
Is it terrible i never played any of these
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>>3751027
>too bad the game's so easy that all those crafting becomes unnecessary.

Yeah, it's actually more fun to learn and formulate how to temper a certain material or use those tempered items to arrange a golem's AI than actually play the game to some degree. Formulating a certain pet's diet is also fun, and I have probably spent more time doing these 3 things than actually playing the game itself over the years, which I have actually only ever beaten 3 times total.

Too bad that they dropped the ball so badly with magic though. Both creating and using it is just boring and pointless.
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