>"retro gamer" >plays on an HDTV

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Every time I see a a /vr/ console on a 16:9 flat screen tv, I am oh so minimally vexed.

>>3727280
Not my fault I can't find CRTs that work.

>>3727280
Eventually that will be everyone.

HDTV have the advantage of square pixels for games developped with square pixels in mind (=most of them).
Everything is a little wider on CRTs.

>>3727295
CRT cucks absolutely BTFO.

>>3727301
no retro games were developed on a display with square pixels

>>3727298
This. People seem to forget that many CRTs are dying and the people that can repair them are all retired at this point (and they aren't teaching their knowledge to newer generations). Eventually, we'll all be playing on HDTVs.

>>3727314
There's CRT's working from the first 80's, I don't think we are going to have that problem soon.

>>3727314
Do CRTs only die from long use? If so, perhaps it might be worth getting a few extra CRTs from thrift stores/craigslist to future proof before they shoot up in price.

>>3727314
Maybe we won't encounter a true CRT rarity in our lifetime, but it will inevitably happen.

>>3727319
Right now is the best time to buy crts, it's only been about 10 years since production stopped, they are still plentiful and cheaper than ever. In 20 or 30 years they will probably be owned by retro gamers only.

>>3727321
>>3727314
Repairing CRTs isn't some super secret forbidden martial art that has to be taught from generation to generation, it's just things like replacing dead capacitors and fixing warping geometry issues dude, information that's readily available online. They'll be around for a very very long time, unlike LCDs which cannot be repaired by human hands once they're damaged internally.

>>3727319
They don't. What happens is that they run worse over time.

>>3727336
I hear you, many LCDs are also easily repaired by replacing bulging capicitors though. I get one or two a week, usually the power board although the last Samsung I did had a faulty backlight inverter.
Can't believe how many get thrown out when it takes $2 in parts and 15 minutes of time to diagnose and repair.

>>3727346
I hear CRT TVs can be extremely dangerous to repair. Is this true?

I wish it was easy to find people willing to RGB mod old CRTs

>>3727347
Only if you're an untrained idiot and careless when adjusting pots or replacing anode filters etc.

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>>3727280
>plays on an HDTV
>Using a Framemeister or OSSC
I'm okay with this

>>3727361
>Framemeister

Isn't just cheaper and easier to have a CRT?

>>3727365
It is but it is also amazing how stupid some people are and waste money on a magical device.

>>3727336
How do you fix a vertical collapse? My old CRT died that way and I haven't gotten rid of it yet.

>>3727365
If you live somewhere where there are an abundance of CRTs going cheap, congrats, get as many as you can store. There have been literally 0 non-HD CRTs anywhere near me for years.

>>3727414
Have you looked on Craigslist? I just looked on mine and there are like 10 recent listings of people offering Trinitrons for free. And I don't live in a super populated area or anything...

>>3727414

Weirdly the opposite to me. I often see CRTs abandoned in front of people's homes but I cannot recall having seen one that is HD.

>>3727420
Not just craigslist but local buy sell groups on Facebook, apps like OfferUp and LetGo. I find loads but haven't been in a position to be able to go get one yet

Those CRTs are going in the landfill tho never to be seen again. I'm on this NES fans group on facebook and they are all about playing on retrons and hdtvs. Shit triggers the fuck outta me to be honest

>>3727441
BUT ANON, YOU CAN PLAY IN HD!!!
why do retro enthusiats care so much about seeing 8bit in hd? are the squares too blurry?
even pat the nes cunt loves when retro clone consoles have HDMI ports.

>>3727287
>I have a working 23" that I can't get rid of.

>tfw youre poor and only own 3 CRT's because you cant buy any better TV

>>3727446
Input lag.

>>3727351
>untrained

Yes, that's kind of the point.


>>3727426
They show up every now and then. Kind of rare though since HD is basically a standard that arrived with LCDs, so the only people buying HD CRTs were the ones too dumb to just buy a flat screen.

>>3727454
unless youre playing streetfighter competitevly, the 0.0312 second input lag is fucking unoticable
there are no games that require milisecond control.
and lets face it, you have no friends so you can still play streetfighter vs ai with that 0.03second lag

>>3727465
Eh. It's pretty noticeable in the Mario games.

>>3727465
You're bullshitting and you know it
It's extremely noticeable

>>3727280
It does not matter on what kind of screen you play, What matters is that you play. Nobody care what I played until I played The Mask

>>3727414
That's weird. I had to throw tons of them.

>"retro gamer"
>never even owned the game or console, only played it in an emulator

Also
>"/vr/ thread"
>/v/ cancer

>>3727372
You fix the part which causes the vertical deflection to fail.
>>3727336
>unlike LCDs which cannot be repaired by human hands once they're damaged internally.
You also can't repair anything inside the tube of a CRT.

>>3727447
a 23 inch unfortunately wont fit on my desk

>>3727465
I AM playing fighting games competitively.

>>3727457
>Kind of rare though since HD is basically a standard that arrived with LCDs, so the only people buying HD CRTs were the ones too dumb to just buy a flat screen.
Early HD LCDs were blurry as fuck during fast motion, so many people stuck with HD CRTs at that time.

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>"retro gamer"
>never experienced the arcade scene outside of rhythm games

this may not apply in asia or south america.

>>3727686
Or went with Plasma. It took Hitachi and Fujitsu a while to introduce ALiS panels though, making HD possible in reasonably sized sets - ironically smaller rather than larger.

Pioneer then made 1080p possible a couple of years later and, along with incredible black levels, took flat panels to a level which has arguably not been bettered since.

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>>3727446
>even pat the nes cunt loves when retro clone consoles have HDMI ports.
I've notice a lot of JewTube collectors, despite having a shit ton of original games and consoles and more than enough space, not only play with a HDTV, but own and shill the fuck out of chintzy garbage like Retron 5, SOAC consoles and Pandora Boxes for arcade stuff, and I just don't understand it.

>>3727772
Well they're not going to get many kickbacks for shilling CRTs now, are they?

>>3727280
fuck off.

>retro gamer
>emulates everything before n64/psx

I have 2 CRT tvs and a 65" plasma. I don't have/notice any scan lines or massive pixels on the plasma. Its a little sharper and the colors are brighter. I also don't sit 5 feet away from my tv.

>>3727346
What is the best place to buy capacitors online?
Do I have to buy in bulk in order to not be ripped off?
Should I buy bulk of the same exact type or buy an assorted capacitor kit?

>>3727772
>collectors

Well of course they don't care about low input lag it's not like they you know actually play the games.

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>>3727454
>he can't compensate for input lag

What a casual

Don't most HD tvs have a game mode that helps with input lag by shutting off most of the video processing? My refresh rate is around 20ms according to CNET. Is it even possible for the eye to notice that?

>They actually need to look for crts to buy
Underages. Or cavemen unable to take care of your stuff.

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>>3727878

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>>3727890
>Buying a CRT

>>3727287
True. It's your parents and their defective genes.

>>3727314
People seem to forget that you can still buy brand new CRTs off the shelf in many places. And by "people" I mean ignorant babies like you. I'm not retired and can repair CRTs.

>>3727325
>10 years since production stopped
Baby parrots gonna parrot. You're full of shit kid.

>>3727890
Mine gave up the ghost after thirty years, it's older than I am.

>>3727897
Seriously, it's not that hard, just play in your old one. I'm only 27 and still have working crts I never got rid of.
>but muh trinitron
hipster gonna hip

>>3727889
Yes, input lag is noticeable at that time. I prefer to think about it in individual 60fps frames (1 frame = 16ms), and I'd probably notice that when playing a game with 1 frame of extra input lag.

That instantaneous response time is even more noticeable in retro games, because new games usually have some kinda bullshit animation added in that only makes menus less satisfying and slower.

>>3727889
Unless your light guns are working, no.

>>3727951
Who's still selling brand new CRTs?

>>3728297
Chinks

>>3727314
I ONLY have CRTs in my house.
Living room, bedroom and attic, they all work. No HDTVs to be seen.
HDTVs are for suckers.

>>3727280
What is with the massive surge of shit-threads and shit-posts today? Did /v/ break?

Play the games however you want.

Does it really matter?

>>3728337
Holy shit do you not watch movies or television? I keep an old CRT in my garage for when I'm out there working but hell you can get a brand new 32 inch Samsung for a hundred bucks from Amazon Prime now and theyll bring it to your damn house. Enjoy not being able to read the score on a damn football game

>>3728301
>trusting the chinks not to cheap out and fry your balls with x-rays

>>3727348

Trust me, its not hard to learn to do it yourself.

>>3728341
Collector fags and CRT autists are feeling insecure about their financial decisions, so they shitpost here to cope with the buyer's remorse.

>>3727280
>posts normie millennial instagram-tier meme
>/vr/

>>>/v/

This post is /v. Fuck CRTs .

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>not playing on a 65" 4K TV
>not using a DVDO iScan VP50pro for 1080p upscaling then Oppo BDP-105D for 4K upscaling
>not using a high-end 11.1 Dolby Atmos/DTS:X surround system and playing your games in their original mono/stereo/surround audio format or upmix into 11.1 Dolby Atmos or DTS:X
>not playing all your retro consoles that way as well as watching your LaserDiscs similarly

Please.

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>>3728623
>tfw you share a planet with people who actually aspire to this

>>3728623
>having all that lag on your dads tv
kek

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>>3728337
Dude...

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>mfw going to pick up 2 crt's from my grandma tomorrow

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I love the setup on my LCD with the OSCC. SNES, Genesis and Dreamcast all look amazing.

Little input lag and I can play in my living room where I watch sports and movies and shit. It's kinda nice.

>>3727414
Then just buy a PVM or something off of ebay, moron. It would probably be cheaper than a framemeister AND it would look better and require nothing more than plug and play for almost every big system.

CRT's are a fucking eyesore for people who have "nice" things and places.. even in an office or den it looks terrible..

>>3727963
>but muh trinitron
I have old CRTs back from childhood as well, and both are trinitrons though??

>>3729046
PVM would only look better if you put the effort of using the proper cords. PVM's can look shitty with Svideo.

Framemeister at least looks good (even on 150 inch projectors) with s-video.

>>3727492
>>3727474
You need to buy better tvs (samsung/sony) or better projectors (benQ/Sony) if you notice the display lag.

If a pro CSGO player can handle the LCD display lag, you morons can too.

>>3729292
>If a pro CSGO player can handle the LCD display lag
They get sponsored and paid by LCD manufacturers though.

>>3727287
I have 6 crts at home. All of them work. I didn't pay more than 20$ for all of them. Most of them were found just lying on the curb. You're just not looking hard enough.

>>3728403
Well there is this thing called SD

>>3727283
What about a wide CRT with a /vr/ game that has a widescreen option?

>>3727963
Trinitrons are arguably better than most common crts, though. I've seen it with my own eyes.

>>3728403
I have a bunch of crts but I only use them for consoles or watching dvds. I haven't watched actual television programming in over 10 years. Have fun getting brainwashed by commercials.

>>3728414
Why all this distrust for chinks? Dude, I bet 90% of what you own is made in china and you don't even know it.

>>3729051
It's just your millennial/post-millennial perception of "nice". In a couple years, your HD TV will also look outdated and clumsy. Probably it already does.

>>3729431
Lol it has nothing to do with being a millennial. Flat-screen TVs are here to stay, fortunately.

>>3729474
I thought things were moving toward concave curved panels?

Those things really are retarded though.

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>>3729051
B&O sets are more beautiful than LCDs

>>3729480
>I thought things were moving toward concave curved panels?
A fad that will be short-lived. God I hope this is the case.

What a shame

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-conduction_electron-emitter_display

>>3729491
Those are still fixed-pixel displays though, albeit emissive rather than backlight-based.

The real CRT replacement would be laser-scanning technology.

are those hd CRTs any good if you still just use the composite inputs?

>>3729503
No

>>3729291
Then... buy them too? I don't see how after spending money in a PVM you wouldn't want to spend money in a damn RGB.

>>3729380
Made in China but sold by American companies or companies operating in America that are liable if my balls get fried by x-rays. Buying a CRT off alibaba or toubou seems means I would get Chinese goods made for the Chinese, and they give no fucks about safety when it comes to the safety of their own people.

>>3729375
While you playing games/sleeping/playing games/sleeping 24/7 your should try and watch some broadcast tv. Try NatGeo. It shows what that bright shit you see out your windows when you go up stairs to use the bathroom is.

ya'll a bunch of faggots, just play the fucking game on whatever tv you own

>>3729731
c'mon nigga
if you're gonna be a special snowflake and play LE RETRO you might as well do it on a retro TV
fuckin redditors i swear

>>3727336
>not belonging to The Order of the CRT Repairman
Your Kung-Fu is pretty damn weak.

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Does anywhere even keep them anymore? I've tried looking at goodwill and similar and they tell me they refuse to take them. My friend is a meleefag and has like six but unless you get lucky and see one on the curb or use craigs list it seems impossible. I have one but it's a generic brand, would love to find a trinitron.

>>3729474
Probably in a decade or less we'll have no use for TVs at all, it'll be all holographic.
Your flat TVs will look outdated and clumsy.

>>3729830
As long as someone gets my light gun games to work.

>tfw all of the TVs in my household are CRT TVs

>>3729830
Theoretically holograms may actually help everything if you can adjust the aspect ratio easily.

And of course the projector would need the correct imputs.

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>>3729730
And why would anyone want to see that?

>>3729759
Truthfully, I've been playing games the past 20+ my first computer was a c64 and i've played nearly every console in between.

Not once have I thought to myself, oh shit I really need a crt to relive those fond genesis memories. I dont think its a big deal

>>3729893
I've thought about it. But my crt weighs around 120 pounds, awkward as fuck to carry, and take up a shit load of room. It's staying in the garage...

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>>3729730
Retrogamer doesn't equal shutin.
I actually go outside in the wilderness or travel when I feek like it. I don't need "natgeo", thank you very much.

>>3729975
Bro, your new VR helmet doesn't count. Are you afraid of bees or just people?

>>3729431
I've got a 55" Sony XBR850B as my living room TV and a sony NX711 as my office TV. The XBR has a 1/2" bezel and the NX has an entirely glass face. They are about as low profile as you can get in terms of TV's and you think a ducking CRT looks better? Lol

In the coming years high end TV's will be the slimmest, with the smallest bezels and completely unbranded. Mine our as about as close as they have available currently.

Also literally -no one- I know has a CRT anymore except for disgusting hoarders.

>have one other friend that collects and plays retro
>has all the old consoles and the nice CRT
>but he only ever plays on his retron 5 on a cheap shitty LCD
>I couldn't even properly control bomberman on his setup

why the fuck does he do this

>>3727280
I'm sorry, I have no room for a CRT! :(

>>3730087
I know a few really poor people that make $10 and have 3 kids or more kids that still have CRTs.

>>3730140
Yea, their poor losers.

What do broke Losers do in times of trouble? Have another kid.

>>3730148
Yep, and get pissed off at work over somthing stupid and loose their job. Then tell sob stories about how life screws them over.

>>3730087

>Also literally -no one- I know has a CRT anymore except for disgusting hoarders.

Yup and most people buy some shitty ass chink rebadge LCD and hook up it with composite and GO WOAH SO nice THIS IS SO BETTER

I don't have any CRT in this apartment as I don't have any room for but give me a fucking break

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>>3727280
>using hardware made after 2000
>listening to music recorded after 2000
>wearing clothes made after 2000
>watching shows made after 2000
>shaving
>not having autism
>in 2017

Am I r3tr0 yet?

>>3730193
>listening to 90s music

What the Hell is wrong with you?

>>3730271
90's music is great.

One hilarious thing I have learned over the years, is that 90% of you "crt purists" werent even fucking alive when nes/snes/genesis/etc were out. Yet you act like some retrogame nazi, lol. And someone like me who actually owns all the older systems cuz i bought them AS THEY CAME OUT, doesnt give a shit about playing them on a CRT(whether it be cart or rom form). And I of course own several crt tvs(again something i dont understand why people complain about. they are easy to acquire and dirt cheap.) So my theory has been that since i ALREADY played probably thousands of retrogames in their prime on crt tvs(we had no other option) that its no real treat for me. I already did it. I dont need to keep doing it. And all you children today desperately want to recreate what us older gamers already experienced 10fold. Is that what it is? cuz maybe that makes sense. Or youre just a bunch of idiots. Please chime in.

>>3730285
I didn't have any console until I was 16 and now I only play in CRT through RGB. It seems you have the weird idea that everyone who's into retro it's because of nostalgia, but some of us just like videogames.

>>3730285
They look and play better on the proper TV.

>>3730285
As somebody who also played retro consoles in their prime, I'm appalled at your lack of standards. You probably stretch games to widescreen, you disgusting degenerate.

>>3730271
>the only music that existed before 2000 was 90's music

>the universe is only 27 years old

>>3730285
Wow nice post anon! Feels

>>3730285
100% agree.

The majority of people probably won't even know wtf they are looking at when using a CRT for "retro gaming"

Look at the amount of people praising fucking emulators then they get their panties in a knot over CRT vs LED lol..

Ducking ppl

CRTs... powerful tools against the uninitiated, but we are inititated aren't we? I never saw an LCD until I was a man, and by then it was nothing to me but blinding.

>>3730447
UUUU

>>3729292
Any pro players use LCDs designed specifically for low lag. That you don't know that shows how invalid your opinion is.

>>3729830
Sure it will champ.

>>3730285
>anyone believes my bullshit.
Top kek kid. I'd love to hear your definition of "all the older systems" that you bought "AS THEY CAME OUT". I'd put money on your first console being 5th, maybe 4th gen and paid for by your dad.

The opinion of one casual who thinks he's an oldfag means nothing when it comes to CRTs. Not everyone is happy only playing RPGs like the worlds oldest underage. If kids want to play games that require fast reactions and no lag on CRTs I don't see why you have a problem with it.

>>3730572
nice try dipshit. if the atari2600 is 5th gen, then yea, YA GOT ME... fucking 4chan kids. oh jesus.. never gets old. back to not posting on 4chan for another 10 months. enjoy your trolling

>>3730641
>WAHHH
Good riddance. Your fake oldfag ass won't be missed.
To everyone else. You're welcome.

>>3731376
youz a faggot bitch

>>3730285
Hit the nail on the head dude. Fuck these nazi gamers

>>3727894
LMAOOO

>>3729291
idk why you would buy a pvm without going the full mile and hooking all your shit up thru rgb

but im in the process of converting all my shit to rgb since I just got a pvm and since gamecube and n64 are so irritating to get an rgb signal out of, s-video is the next best thing until I hardmod the consoles for rgb output and the svideo looks pretty amazing already compared to composite i gotta say. since its so expensive (or annoying to do yourself) im considering just leaving them svideo to save myself the cash and the headache