Is there some portable emulator of the size of the gb micro?

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Dingoo

Xplay/PSPgo is about as small when closed

>>3705540
>Dingoo
I wish I could get one, it's ipossible to buy one.

You could make one yourself with a Raspberry Pi Zero and a 3d printer, if you can get your hands on a Zero and aren't retarded.

>>3705540
>Dingoo

Where the fug I can buy one??

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>>3705540
Xperia Play is pretty good performance wise too. But it doesn't compare to the comfiness of the Micro.

>>3706316
Is it actually comfy? How good are the controls?

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>>3706329
It's actually comfy. Controls are okay-ish, worse than PSP Go but much much better than the Dingoo (which is a fine device too!).

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>>3706337
Also don't forget the Sansa Clip, which is even smaller than the GB Micro.

Revo k101

>>3706337
They ported Android 6? Wow, people must really love this thing. Maybe I should buy one. What is the most I should pay for one in good condition?

Also, is it top heavy? I.e., when you hold the gamepad part, is the screen part substantially heavier? The reason I'm asking is that it looks like it and I imagine that would be uncomfortable for long play sessions.

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>>3706360
Just tested it against a PSP Go and both are bottom-heavy. In both cases, the screen part is lighter, which makes sense because the battery is the heaviest part. The Xperia Play is heavier than the PSP Go and the bottom part of the Play is (relative to the ratio of the PSP) heavier.

As for the price: It's worth about 50-70€ in western Europe, not sure about the US.

>>3706384
Thanks, anon. I'll see if I can find one for that price.

>>3705480
There are various Dingoo models, the only one you can find to buy (new) currently is the PSP-sized A-330, unfortunately.
Costs 80 dollars too.

>>3706384
>Xperia Play
>PSP Go
>X220
Patrician taste my man.

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I don't know why you guys bother mentioning Dingoo when GCW Zero exists.
OP, GCW Zero if you don't want to play PSX, PSP Go if you do.

>>3707257
>149 Euros
What the hell

>>3706342
I'm playing Doom on that fucker. Best port is best

>>3707257
Where do you buy one?

>>3707450

This was on their FB page today: https://www.dragonbox.de/en/84-gcw-zero

>>3707454
looks out of stock. is it available in UK anymore?

Why is GCW Zero better, for SNES?

>>3707553
I mean US not UK

What's the built quality on these like? I get very buttblasted when playing some games and tend to get a hard grip on the thing i'm playing with. I'm currently using a PSP but i'm scared for the poor thing's health and I want something a bit sturdier.

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>>3707257
>I don't know why you guys bother mentioning Dingoo when GCW Zero exists

The GCW Zero is much better than the Dingoo, correct. But it used to be a lot more expensive. Right now the Dingoo is getting rarer too. However, the GCW Zero is a bit larger than the Dingoo and most certainly larger than the Micro.

>>3707553
>Why is GCW Zero better, for SNES?
The GCW Zero is a lot better for SNES than the PSP is. Still worse than the Xperia Play (which only costs half as much!) but it has a pretty comfy OS and I love the display. If form factor is not an issue, I'd actually recommend the OpenPandora (soon Pyra), which can be found for less than the GCW Zero nowadays.

Considering only small handhelds and only SNES emulation performance + value, I'd say:

Xperia Play > Dingoo (rare) > (Micro) > PSP Go (bad performance) > GCW Zero (most expensive)

>>3707816
PSP Go is flimsy as fuck, better use a regular PSP if you have rage problems

>>3706329
The controls are great they just don't have a lot of travel because the thing is THIN even closed and shockingly thin open. That's the least comfortable thing about it imo is the thickness you feel like you're kind of pinching it rather than holding it. Might as well just get an extended battery and put a thick coat of plastidip on the back of the extended battery cover. Battery life is really really good already especially if you keep it in airplane mode but it's ridiculous with extended battery even if the objective is just to make it grippier.

>>3707845
What about the other ones mentioned in the thread like the dingo?

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>>3706348
I would totally get one if they made a mini version

>>3705480
Plenty. You won't find a mass produced one that handles SNES very well though.

>>3705665
> Raspberry Pi Zero ... 3d printer
Hey guys, check out that cute little baby parrot.

>>3707841
How well does N64 run on the Xperia Play?

>>3707990
I'd buy that in a second. My Famicom micro is a little beat.

>>3708184
see >>3706337

>>3708256
>didn't notice it was a webm
Sorry, I'm retarded.
It's running a bit slow or is it just the 20 FPS and the recording combined?

>>3708260
Nah that's just how the N64 runs it's games.

>>3708267
Just the "cinematic" native 20 FPS of Ocarina of Time then.

Gotta admit, it looks way less weird when you're playing it yourself.

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>>3708271
>>3708267
>>3708260
It's running 30fps most of the time, this was in splitscreen mode with animu playing simultaneously (to demonstrate /g/ that a phone with 512mb ram can run the most recent version of Android with multitasking). Displaying the video takes some GPU power so the game runs slower (but still "playable"),

>>3707887
It's chink shit. Chink shit with amazing software support and a full-fledged linux port but still chink shit. The controls, the device itself, it all feels really cheap and breakable. I gave mine away but it worked for 2 years without any problems.

>>3708342
>30 FPS
Ocarina of Time runs at 20 FPS natively though. It uses 60 only for a few cutscenes and odd bits. Did you uncap the framerate?

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>>3708347
>Did you uncap the framerate?
No, I was talking out of my ass. I never played OoT with the framerate displayed and just assumed it was running at 30fps. In the webm, it runs at about 75% speed, without the second window it runs noticeably smoother. But then again it might not be fullspeed after all. I should test these things before making wild claims.

>>3708353
You are correct actually, the game isn't running at full speed on that video. But it's actually running below 20FPS since 20-25 is OoT normal FPS.

>>3705480
So the Xperia Play is better than the PSP go and cheaper now?

>>3708353
I'm not going to hate bro, that shit looks cool as fuck. once i get shit settled after the new year, I'll come here to annoy you guys for tips.

>>3705551
>>3706308
Trust me, you don't want one.

The software's better than the hardware and it's built like shit. Mine had the battery directly on top of the motherboard and a big ball of solder in it.

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I wanna see how a PSP emulator runs on the Xperia Play.

>>3708586
Better than Android runs on PSP anyway

>>3708421
Android enjoys constant refinements and available revisions to software so not only is Xplay better at emulating most consoles the PSP emulates (even PSX is pretty close), it's capable of running way way more software too.

>>3707841
>OpenPandora
Good luck finding one.

>>3708848
Pyra coming out soon, Pandora is too expensive to be relevant. You can also get the GPD meme.

>>3708586
I take it it doesn't run very well?

>>3708605
Why do people say the PSP Go is better then? Because of PSX? Everything else is better on the Xperia play?

>>3709429
- Ergonomics (though a normal PSP is better in that regard)
- More stable performance because the PSP doesn't run an OS with background tasks
- No sound lag

>>3709470
So you're saying the PSPgo is better and the other anon is saying the Xperia Play is better

>>3706384
Is it worth tracking down a PSP Go for emulation? I've always liked the design but never looked into emulating.

I have a Psp 3000 and while it's great for emu in theory,
In practice if you are autistic like me for psx GBA and snes you will only accept to play at 1:1 resolution and then the used portion of the screen gets too small

Otherwise you get a smudgy upscaled mess

Also we are now too spoiled with 1080p phone screen, Psp now looks like shit and I never use mine

>>3709514
I have a psp 3000 and an xperia play. Honestly, the xplay is better for everything except psx and psp. Even so, id say just get an xplay because the xplay has handled every psx game ive played on it and quite a few psp games. Snes emulation on psp sucks ass and dont let anyone ever tell you otherwise.(35-45 fps on snes is garbage, makes any action game or platformer pretty much unplayable.)

>>3709824
Snes9x runs better on my Psp than my zenfone2 with Intel atom and 4 GB of ram

>>3709828
I dunno what to say other than thats not the experience ive had. Trying to play terranigma, lttp, or mario world on my 3000 has always resulted in slowdowns and minor graphical glitches.

>>3709838
I've actually only played 5 min of chrono trigger on it

Then again I left it because of
>>3709651

>>3709841
In all honesty, i can play rpgs on my psp with no problems as long as theres a run button, i dont mind the slowdown. But like i said, when playing an actiony game where timing is everything, i found myself dying way more than i normally would. I think the framerate bounces around a bit and thats what the problem is for me. One second its 55fps, the next im in the middle of a jump and the fps drops to 35. If it was a constant speed then it wouldnt be a huge deal, but the bouncing back and forth makes it almost impossible to react properly

>>3709824
well missin PSP and PSX by "better for everything" what do you mean?

is SNES much better and playable for autist detail types?
is there a big difference in terms of performance and accuracy of the other emulators?

>>3709913
Gba and snes work much better on xperia play, not autist level, but aroind 55-60fps with very minor graphical glitches, if any. Psx works pretty well, i beat chrono cross, suikoden 1 and 2 and played some of xenogears on it with only minor problems. Xenogears crashed twice i believe. As for psp, some games flat out wont work, others crash randomly. I beat p3p on my xperia play.

Psp by comparison has almost perfect psx emulation but youve gotta convert isos to eboots. Psp games run perfectly(obvioisly)

>>3709913
gb/gbc, nes, and genesis work well on both, id give the xplay a slight edge for genesis. Games seemed to run a little bit smoother

>>3708961
""""""""""""soon"""""""""""""

>>3709824
The PSP 3000 slips off your hands too easily when playing NES games desu

Need something with wider grips.

>>3709942
>>3709953
hmm thanks anon, so I guess i need both

>>3709828
But that's wrong you fucking idiot.

>>3711072
So PSP itself is better?

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I just looked up the prices for GB Micros.
Holy WHAT?

How? Why?

>>3711559
it's now a trendy nerdy 'status symbol' after the verge writed on it:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/26/3494628/status-symbols-game-boy-micro

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>>3711575
I really wanted to get one, not for any trend reason but just because I have a huge amount of GBA carts and just a gen-1 GBA.

I hate this part of capitalism at times.
Hope the prices come down AND the systems can actually last.

>>3711587
You can get a used one for like $50-60 if you hunt around. I payed $100 for my Famicom model, and it's not in great shape. I think they have some build issues too, I'm afraid mine's going to succumb to something weird and become a brick.

>>3711575
>it's now a trendy nerdy 'status symbol' after the verge writed on it

They were always a bit pricey secondhand before that.

>>3711756
That was just relative rarity desu.

With Google Play support ending for Gingerbread 2.3 soon, will rooting the Xperia Play be the only way to get emulators on it?

>>3712912
bumperino

>>3712912
There are roms with newer android, also you can download the apk of the emulator, there is no need to use google play.

>>3713392
>downloading apks out of the playstore
ENJOY YOUR BOTNET

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>>3713431
even if you really are completely incompetent your xplay should be in airplane mode 99% of the time so it's not going to be doing much botnetting

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>browsing this thread after playing around with retroarch on my vita.

SO 2010 IN HERE

>>3713609
anon u can be smug but please enlighten us on what is possible and what the advantages are

is it much better than a PSP or Xperia and for what systems? I'm assuming n64 emulation still sucks

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>>3713614
>>>3713609 (You)
>anon u can be smug but please enlighten us on what is possible and what the advantages are
Vita games... also some of the best indie games on steam were ported. Muh Axion Verge. kirby superstar, starfox and smrpg also run at playable speeds if not faster.
>is it much better than a PSP or Xperia and for what systems? I'm assuming n64 emulation still sucks
yes it does but thats more the n64 than anything that emulates it. Its just a piss of a console to emulate. Also I find it quite a bit comfier than the go/xperia layout.

>>3713620
Do you know how it compares to PSP Go and the Xperia with the other emulators?

>>3713627
Exact same thing if using vhbl or adrenaline.

Vita retroarch is newer and better than psp emulstors. I don't bother with playing emulators in psp mode.

>>3713664
Can you run this while keeping the vita up to date?

>>3714225
Not anymore, although henkaku/taihenkaku will allow you to play any game from any firmware.

It's sort of like the old-school 5.53-ish era hacks on the PSP.

It's not up to date, but you can do everythng that you would need it for anyway so... whatever.

Also the cutoff point is 3.60 so it's not like you're looking for a launch system.

>>3705551
>>3706308
Dingoos are actually awful. Build quality is terrible and it pretty much made me hate retro gaming for most of my adolescence

>>3713609
i was playing with it again earlier since i hadn't updated since there was an all-in-one vpk.
i wish performance was better for a lot of things but it's not bad. a little slowdown is worth handheld knuckles chaotix imo.
>>3714238
>although henkaku/taihenkaku will allow you to play any game from any firmware
can you play all games that require above 3.60 yet? i know there's patches for a couple games, but it doesn't work in general.

>>3714490
So it's better than psp but still shit?

>>3714984
If you call stable snes, nes, genesis, psx, vita and psp gaming shit then yeah I guess it's a steaming pile of shit.

I guess they left out the frappaccino maker in the firmware.

>>3715013
>PSP
Unless you already had a Vita with a PSP demo on it, you're not getting Adrenalin running- which means no PSP support.

>PS1
PS1 emulation is still very, VERY spotty. And with the size of PS1 games and cost of Vita memory cards, you're honestly better off getting an Android gaming handheld. The GPD XD and Xperia Play are still better than the Vita imo.

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>>3706316
>>3706337
>>3707841
>>3708342
Wow, so many others seem to have my dumbphone, but better ...

Wait a minute, you guys make it look like my dumbphone is powerful enough to run something more powerful than its stock OS (2.3.3). At this time mine feels like it struggles with webpages. Also filled with bloatware from AT&T (the blue Xperia Play), even though I use a different carrier. How can my dumbphone achieve what yours does?

(I enjoy using my phone but it would be nice on 6 like the one webm had it, and I was unsuccessful in switching to Cyanogenmod because I read that was for r800i and not my r800a)

>>3715027
>Unless you already had a Vita with a PSP demo on it, you're not getting Adrenalin running- which means no PSP support.

Unless you own a PS3.

Then again, all of this won't be relevant in a year anyway. That's about how long I give it before mini ARM computers begin to outclass the raspberrypi and we get PSP support on micro-computers the same as we have PSX support on the pi nowadays.

We're all just temporarily using just what's available. None of this will matter in later 2017. The times are a'changing. I've moved most of my roms and software to my phone here recently. I just don't see a dedicated handheld as a viable solution anymore, not with the beboncool, 8bitdo and moga controllers being awesome at what they do.

>>3706342
damn...I have one of those somewhere. that's crazy.

>>3716503
You need to go on xda developers and read read read

>>3716509
>>3716509
raspberry pi is not a mini arm computer? By micro computers do you mean x86 architecture or larger form factor boards?

Obviously the times are always changing but there are steps to its evolution

>>3716509
Lmao shit like the GPD Win and Smach Z aren't going to catch on.

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>>3716972
I did back a few years ago. I had concluded all forum posts were about the r800i model and barely any for the r800a model, meaning I got the wrong one.

>>3717441
r800i firmware is compatible with r800a

>>3717387
Of course not. Most people don't play videogames anon.

Homever within this small niche that we are a part of, at least the GPD stands a chance, i'm not sure about the Smach Z since it seems a bit too big to be practical.

>>3714327
>i bought a fake dingoo
That has nothing to do with the build quality of a dingoo only the build quality of your brain.

>>3717632
>Smach Z
Just googled that thing. Looks retarded, and why model it after the steam controller?

I know a good popular controller we can model our system from, the one everyone fucking hates.

>>3718075
The only people who hate the steam controller are those that haven't tried it :^)

Also the thing is mostly meant for modern PC gaming, but it will inevitably get used for emulation, they are even planning to sell weird things to replace the controller with system-accurate controls

>>3718078
>The only people who hate the steam controller are those that haven't tried it :^)

I own one. It's useful for playing single player FPS games on my couch where I don't have to be good enough to play multiplayer, just good enough to get by in FarCry by myself.

It doesn't replace my PS4 controller for retro gaming.

It doesn't replace my mouse and keyboard for TF2 because I'll be damned if I'm using a steam controller while playing scout. (Pyro or medic maybe)

I also don't like cocking my thumb sideways to play Dark Souls with four tiny buttons that feel like they were put there because they had to be, rather than a design decision, and moving camera angles with a thumbpad is AHHHHERRRRCHHHGHGHHH FUCK

>>3718089
Maybe I have small hands but I've never understood what the issue with the face buttons on the Steam controller is for most people.

IMO the whole meme about the trackpad being mouse-accurate turned to be pretty true in my experience, after getting used to it, it feels similar to dragging my finger across a smooth touchscreen, I enjoy it quite a lot with the sensibility turned relatively high up. Of course that games made with controllers with analogs in mind are still better with analogs, but thankfully a lot of PC games aren't.

Also.

>PS4 controller
>long as grips with tiny sticks, shitty SONY D-Pad, 2 hours of battery life and is already breaking in 6 months.

Never again. I'd much rather use an Xbox controller or the Dualshock 3, or a third party controller.

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>>3709571
>

Absolutely!

>16 GB built in storage with option to expand with micro SD

>takes 2 seconds to install cfw

>plays 99% of the ps one library flawlessly because of built in sony made emulator

>plays the entire psp library which is actually really fucking good. Games are easy to find online

>amazing support for nes, gba, gbc, genesis, ms, gg, ect

Snes games are kinda shoddy but the majority are very playable.

Apparently I can get a new Xperia Play for like $80.
Would people actually recommend this as a phone? How is it as far as a handheld emulator goes?

>>3709571
>PSP Go
No.

Its only advantage is that it's smaller than other models. Its form factor is uncomfortable compared to the 3000, and you'll be paying more for the novelty.

And no matter what anyone tells you, you CANNOT use microSD cards with it.
Sony decided to give it 16GB of internal storage, but limited expanded storage to expensive, and now discontinued M2 cards. The largest capacity available is 16GB, so you're locked to 32GB max. It sounds like a lot, but it gets taken up very quickly if you play PSP games.

Seriously, just get the PSP3000 if you want a PSP. They're easier to find, easier to repair, more comfortable, and are fully compatible with Memory Stick to microSD adapters.

>>3718404
It won't be great as a phone it only has 512 megs of internal memory you'd need to hack it to use the SD as internal memory if you want to run modern apps

>>3718404
PSP 3000 is more uncomfortable for some people, personal preference.

Not sure about the SD card stuff.

>>3718478
I used the Xperia Pro mk16 which is about the same as my main phone up to this year, storage was the only issue, still ran apps pretty alright despite being stock on SONY's Android 4.0.4.

Never figured out how to install custom firmwares or how to use the SD card as the main storage tho :^(