BAD TO THE BONE

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=== NEWS ===

[Til 3-15] Dropbox will be dropping support of public folders in mid-March; now is a good time to mirror any Doom-relevant files available through this

[12] There is some interest in starting a Quake mapping project akin to DUMP, nothing has been formally organized

[12-16] A keyboard with displays on each key can run Doom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7b9glYuAXw&feature=youtu.be

[12-16] DOOM-Crusher released; this tool can recursively optimize and reduce file sizes of your WAD and PK3 files
https://github.com/Kroc/DOOM-Crusher

[12-12] DOOM Resurrected, a documentary series about Nu-Doom by Noclip, is being released in parts
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-THgg8QnvU4TMnDoFcI-vtJKwP2oLgyH

[12-12] Brutal Doom 64 2.0 released
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom-64/downloads

[12-10] The 13th Cacowards were announced in celebration of Doom's 23rd birthday!
https://www.doomworld.com/23years/

[12-10] New Mapset
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/91952-chainworm-kommando-v1-0-released/

[12-10] Colourfull hell got updated to 0.88
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=47980

[12-7] DoomRL source code released!
https://github.com/ChaosForge/doomrl

[12-6] Run For It, a mod where all decorations/projectiles/items grow pairs of legs and run around, was released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE96VqwW2zs

[12-5] Anon map release; Hubris Containment Sector
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n3l6f32py83m3s5/Hubris%20Containment%20Sector%20%28Final%29.wad?dl=0

[12-4] Arcane Dimensions v1.5 for Quake released
https://twitter.com/SimsOCallaghan/status/805343155092680704

[12-4] One anon made a music mod, using OGG format
https://mega.nz/#!3pl0DIIR!xhINj4Ps0m265me6n84Ujc8qjU0OzA8pLudeQEzAXZ0

[12-3] Smooth Doom revived with a bugfix update; plans to add in Doom64 plasma weaponry later
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45550


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If you would like to submit any news or your personal map releases here, please reply/backlink to this post.

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first for cacos a cute

CUTE!

Anyone got some varied weaponsets that are a little on the obscure side, or maybe shit like Blood weapons without extra baggage tied in?

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Status on this?

Who would've thought that a Cacodemon piggy bank would become the most ideal way to turn a Cacoward into an actual thing.

Now, the Caco piggy bank is pretty cheap, but there's no way in Hell I would buy a Revenant Statue, spray it with gold and give it away as a Golden Boner, shit would be wayyyy too expensive.

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>>3682712
glad to see people are still using the gif i made

>>3682718
>cacodemon helium balloons

Awesome.

>>3682706
>There is some interest in starting a Quake mapping project akin to DUMP, nothing has been formally organized

QUMP exists, even though its only 1 person so far
>>3680959

>>3682731
lets say I am interested and I own Q1, but I have never mapped for Quake games, how do I get started? is current popular choice editor like worldcraft of ye olde days?

>>3682754
get trenchbroom, a modern port like quakespasm, Tyrutils (for compiling) and a compiling GUI as a frontend for the 3 or 4 utils you will use (this will make compiling easy and done with one program)

Follow this guide:
https://quakewiki.org/wiki/Getting_Started_Mapping
Tyr utils: (click Windows or mac binaries to get the lot)
http://disenchant.net/utils/
GUI frontend: (click [download] v1.03)
https://shoresofnis.wordpress.com/utilities/ne_q1spcompilinggui/

Make sure you put all this in a folder with no spaces in its name (ideally on your C drive) and save your maps with no spaces.

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>>3682759
is q1 supposed to install this long? I remember it being a lot faster back in the day

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>>3682762
alright at least now I know its not broken

>>3682764
Get Quakespasm. It's not 100% faithful to original quake (doesn't seem to allow the lowest resolution) but its good for testing and you can run it with the compiler GUI which makes testing your level easy.

>>3682772
I got DirectQ, its good enough

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>>3682772
>It's not 100% faithful to original quake (doesn't seem to allow the lowest resolution)

>>3682774
so to do some testing I have downloaded Quake Injector, set it up as you are supposed to and picked a random high rated map pack which was "func map jam 6" it loaded nicely in DirectQ and played two maps through it, red flag was on one of the maps, few missing faces in one place, I thought nothing of if, maybe mapper missed it, but then when I have tried to play another map I got BSP2 error, did some digging and apparently DirectQ doesnt support BSP2 format, guess I gotta get Quakespasm afterall

Oh, look. It's that post again.

>>3682790
quakespasm also just looks weird. Maybe I have dont have it set up right but it definitely isn't vanilla quake. Even the menu screen seems to have antialiased edges.

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>>3682721

>>3682852

try gl_texturemode gl_nearest in Console. Should make all the textures not look as filtered and closer to vanilla.

>>3682856
Screw Kirovs, I want a Cacozeppelin.

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>>3682790
Technically none of the ports are 100% faithful due to object in front of object rendering- stick a brush and a func_wall in the same spot and you'll get Z-fighting in Quakespasm and every other source port, while in the original executable world geometry always takes precedence over entities.

That's unimportant in the grand scheme of things though.

>>3682798
For single-player stuff, Quakespasm is the absolute go-to Quake port, 99% of maps are developed with it in mind. There's no tussle about different zdooms/gzdooms/omgbbwdooms like with Doom; the only other one you'd want is Fitzquake which Quakespasm is directly descended from so it's depreciated anyway.

Multiplayer has a few choices but that's just due to the different netcode, Quakespasm uses the original shit instead of Quakeworld so no easy IP connecting, no network interpolation for antilag, etc. That shit also isn't important here.

>>3682731
I'd count myself as the second/third person but still don't have the imagination to make an actual map instead of fiddling about learning how everything works first.

>>3682876
Also since people have attempted to start mapping a few times in the past few threads and always has one issue or another, would there be interest in a quick-start Quake mapping pastebin/infographic/download? There's a fair bit about it in the Quakepasta (http://pastebin.com/cpjZmazY) linked to from a different paste in the OP, but something a bit more cut-down and hand-holdey could be useful.

>>3682680

what hud is that?

>>3682882
yeah thats a good idea. I saved my post >>3682759 as a text file in case other people ask, but it would be good to have a dedicated pastebin or something. I still only know the basics. Only just learned how to use triggers and have yet to make a door (even though my map doesn't really need doors...)

>>3682885
It's MetaDoom with a minimized screen size to just before hudless

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I just dreamed about the Quake 1 movie trailer

it had motorcycles chases with plasma rifles and first person scenes

in the end ranger slipgated so much he became a blob of flesh

>>3682891
Noooo, poor Caco...

>>3682891
Quake doesn't even have plasma rifles, stop eating cold burgers before going to bed.

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PortaDOOM Alpha 2 incoming as soon as 600 MB finishes uploading.

>>3682897

looking what they did to the doom movie I'll not be surprised

>>3682707
>>3682910

Here it is, PortaDOOM Alpha 2: A portable WAD collection presented as a '90s disk-zine.

PortaDOOM Alpha 2 (572 MB): https://mega.nz/#!r4JCEZbY!6QCM6RjLuvLp8Pxac6wJICLRidiblhWxrOsFFSjajSw

Features:
* Complete Cacowards 2015 (other years to come in later releases)
* Commercial DOOM : DOOM1/2/Master/Final, PSX & N64 (if you have the WADs; Steam & GOG installs detected automatically)
* Megawads: DTWID, D2TWID, NEIS, Maps of Chaos
* Total Conversions: FreeDOOM, Adventures of Square
* 96 pages of content & WADs!
* Fully portable DOOM! Config files and save games are stored with PortaDOOM, allowing for use on USB!

>>3682759
TrenchBroom 2 has a built-in compiler. Pretty certain J.A.C.K. has one as well.

>>3682948

not to be an ass but you are missing the nerve.wad from BFG edition

>>3682949
>TrenchBroom 2 has a built-in compiler.
Oh shit, is that in the newest beta build? I'm running build e439e68 and there's no compiler so I use the external compiling GUI with TyrUtils like a normal person. Is TB's compiler just repackaged bsp or is it a proprietary modification of it?

>>3682952
It is in PortaDOOM, just forgot to include it in that list! It'll detect DOOM3 BFG Edition automatically for NERVE.WAD.

>>3682954
I'm using version 2.0.0 beta, build 2f3c498. The Run menu has a compile window where you can enter profiles (pretty handy when your maps use different light.exe commands for example) and compile your map, and then launch it.

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Been playing Space Hulk: Deathwing lately and wondered something.

Are there many space station type maps that are all very dark and brooding and close in? Ones where you could actually see space outside sometimes.

You'd need more detailing to pull it off.
Reminds me, there was somebody here a while back who said he'd love to detail maps for people but he couldn't map himself.....he just liked detailing.

>>3682963
Do you still need to set up paths to the actual external compiling tools (i.e. it's just taking the external interface and bundling it into TB) or does it include bsp/light/vis in the editor itself now?

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Hey, so I'm working with a friend to make an asymmetrical multiplayer mod for Quake, one where one person plays as a Wendigo and the others have to run around the map and avoid getting murdered while completing objectives.

I'm pretty new to Quake and have mostly been mapping and modeling, but if anyone has experience working with scripts and stuff, I'd be super appreciative of some advise.

I'd like the fireplace here to hold a counter for collected logs, as well as pick-ups that can be brought back to it that function sort of like keys. Basically go out, collect supplies, and bring them back otherwise the fire goes out and the Wendigo player can fuck you in the ass.

Would the firewood functions be fudgable with map triggers, or would this mostly need to be done through editing stuff with QuakeC?

>>3682971
You need to set up paths, obviously. There are many compilers out there.

>>3682972
>Wendigo player can fuck you in the ass
Oh, MY.

I'm sorry I cannot help you.

>>3682972
Well you can clearly map, so at least other guys can see you're not an idiot.

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>>3682974
Well, I mean, not literally. More of a figurative assfucking.

Here's the model of said Wendigo.

>>3682972
the logs themselves can be done with func_ entities- have them be moving walls hidden behind the fireplace that instantly move forward when one is collected and brought back, there's a dozen ways to kludge it

the more difficult part is the collected logs counter- it's entirely possible to have counters for additional 'items' (really triggers) that aren't gold/silver keys without needing additional quakec (and thus a -game switch instead of -map), similar to having counters for enemies killed, but iirc that requires delving into progs.dat hacking which is complete confusion to me

also is that darkplaces, you shouldn't use darkplaces because it won't always play nice with functions that work fine in other sourceports (ESPECIALLY moving objects/enemies due to the varying physics and lighting will look like shit in lots of maps)

>>3682980
Looks pretty cool. Reminds me of Amelia from Bloodborne.

>>3682980
Well I don't want that looking at me from down a hallway.

>>3682981
Thanks. Is there a good comprehensive guide on how triggers and functions work with examples? The quake wiki has a decent amount but a lot of it ends up being kind of esoteric, vague, or assuming about what you already know.

why are revenants the most meme demons? is it just because of spooky skeltal meme or?

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>>3682994
To me its the AAAAAAAAA

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>>3682980
Has an infinitely better shape to it than this thing, while the same general amount of polys. Nice job!

>>3682994
Skeletons are 2spooky. Skeletons that scream and shoot homing rockets are 4spooky.

>>3682994
I'd say because they're overused - because they're too good for their niche. An excellent medium threat monster but.....they're everywhere.

Play Final Doom and you'll be over them forever.

>>3682997
I think that thing has more of a surrealist horror vibe to it, which I definitely like.

I've never really animated before, just mesh models - I haven't quite done the research on getting stuff into quake yet. Is it true that I need to save keyframes of animation as separate models to use as the actual animations?

>>3682997
Don't want to sound like a dick I know modeling is hard but that looks like a kid in a halloween outfit.

>>3683010
Blame the lack of neck and cardboard cutout antlers.

>>3682980
His head is pixelized and looks cool, but rest of body is a bit too smooth, still pretty great though.

>>3682980
>figurative assfucking

dropped

>>3683030
Well for literal you can play HDoom.

>>3682994
Players who prefer comfy easy gameplay hate getting tripped by them.

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>>3683034
I am one of those people who think the original sprites are sexier than the weebshit, so no.

>>3683038
The normal demons have ass for days. Why would you need anything else?

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>>3683038
Fuckin' this, though.

Why couldn't we have gotten H-Doom with either stock demons or at least some better designed girls? Weeb shit kills my boner like nobody's business.

>>3683042
>>3683049

let's stop this before this thread turns into hell knight husbando club again

>>3682994
I always assumed it's because they move like they're always grooving

>>3683049
There's a solution : get better tastes.

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>>3683037
They're not really all that hard in most encounters, if there's any corners or pillars you can fool their rockets into those, and if you keep your distance and don't stand still, they won't be able to clobber you.

If you play on ZDoom, and a revenant is shooting a rocket towards you, with nowhere to hide, ducking can sometimes let them sail straight over your head (depending on distance), then you gotta think about your next move or he's gonna run up to you and skullfuck you (or the rocket might turn around and come back at you). Not really all that necessary of a maneuver most of the time, but it comes to mind.

Oh yeah, and use their homing fire for infighting, JFC, you literally have a projectile you can steer, trick it to hit another enemy and watch the bitchfit unfold.

I think a lot of the memery comes from Plutonia, which would use quite a bit of revenants (I recall they would often put them up on pillars). It's a pretty versatile monster though, and I think it can make a lot of encounters very fun if put to good use.

>>3683056
It's okay, you'll grow out of your anime phase when you're not 14 anymore

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>>3683062
Never.

>>3683000
>Play Final Doom and you'll be over them forever.

Final Doom helped me get used to them, actually.

>>3683061
Dude, how long has this been in development? I remember seeing your webms for years now.

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>>3683068
Not Kegan, it was just a .webm I happened to have with skeletons in it.

>>3683061
I agree. They're not that hard to deal with, and can make for very fun encounters. I even found Plutonia's usage perfectly fine, myself.

I was mainly referring to players who seem to freak out when they see even just 4 of them.

>>3682972
Used to be a Quake mod just like that... one player was a serial killer and the others victims

>>3682972
That sounds comfy. I'd like a small game with a cabin in the wood.

>>3683074
I love asymmetrical games, especially horror. Dead by Daylight was a good step in the right direction but it's really just not scary. We want to make a game that actually has a huge focus on stalking other players and waiting for opportune moments to attack to pick them off one by one.

The goal is to give the Wendigo player the Fiend's leap that they can basically down players with in one hit, while the survivors have simple shotguns that can dispatch the Wendigo fairly easily if he's caught off guard, so he has to plan his moves very carefully.

The map's going to be a pretty large forest that is mostly dark, while the players have flashlights.

The scope isn't really too huge, so we think we can pull it off pretty well - It's our first time dipping our toes into the engine and it's been interesting so far.

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>>3683082
Aand, have some concept art for the Wendigo.

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>>3683082
So, kinda like the multi of the Batman game?
Also, I like wendigos. They're cool.

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>>3682997

I will never not see this.

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>>3683068

It'll be three years in January. My job is doing a fine job of leaving not wanting to do much as of late, and it doesn't help I keep redoing shit.

End me.

>>3683103
Minimal Viable Product, man. Just get something out and improve it, otherwise known as "Shiterate" -- Ship and Iterate.

>>3683104

That's what I did, and now I'm working on the imrpovement part.

December's always a shitty month for me, and a friend recently lost his apartment so I've been helping him out in anyway I can, plus working at a walmart in holiday season is complete ass suffrage.

I'm not dead yet, but boy am I getting there.

>>3683105
You're awesome.

>>3683105
You can keep going!

https://youtu.be/bavZbQHbuOk

>>3683107

I appreciate that. I really do. I won't let you guys down, besides I still need to finish GMOTA to motivate Marty to continue working on the Space Pirate.

>>3682715
What is it? Looks like a cool sprite.

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I'm the guy who finished Inferno for the first time yesterday.

God damn, E4M2 is kicking my ass hard. With every replay I get a little bit farther, but it's been one hour and I haven't beaten it yet.

Pic related, I was low on health and this motherfucker spat at me and I didn't even see it.

>>3683136
start the level over and kill him back, anon.

>>3683136
e4m1 and m2 are notoriously hard, it gets easier after them

>>3681265
I tried to run the demo version on steam, but the framerate was bad.
Should I bother with the full version? Is it any better?

Jesus Doom 3 is terrible.
Are the extensions a bit better? I might just skip the main campaign and play the expansions if theyre good.

>>3683142
Not at a full price and if it doesn't run at all you can refund it (on steam)

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i will never understand /vr/ hate towards Darkplaces, i even understand that its not that retro.

But really, EP4 and most of SoA and DoE becomes creepy as fuck with those shaders

>>3683113

If nintendo wasn't fearmongering everyone, i would be glad if someone could manage to update Dreadnought with D4D/Prime mechanics, SFM is piss easy to find all prime and SMBWiu models with anims, and convert it to sprites

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>>3683136
E4M2 is one of the hardest maps iD made for Doom.

Basically, people who got good at the game complained that the game was too easy (and really, Doom isn't very hard on Ultra-Violence), so Nightmare! mode was added.
Thy Flesh Consumed was an episode which was added kind of as a promotional for Doom 2, aiming to give people a challenge.
Later came Final Doom, Plutonia being designed to be especially challenging (compared to the stock games) for those who felt it was too easy still.

I feel that Plutonia is more balanced and fair in it's (still challenging) difficulty, being a bit more thought out than Thy Flesh Consumed, and featuring better level design.
When I get fucked in E4M2, it feels like it's because the level is frustrating, it feels like the level wears you down through attrition and annoyance, when I get fucked in Plutonia, it's usually because I wasn't good enough, or didn't pay attention, it never really feels unfair.

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>>3683050
It was always too late, anon

>>3683082
What kind of movement will the wendigo have? Will it run away if it gets injured?
Can it replicate recently heard sounds?

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>>3683198

>hell knight

>is very obviously a baron

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Thy Flesh Consumed.

>>3683123

cyber kratos

I want christmas wads of doom

>>3683208
I don't get it

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>>3683137
>>3683141
>>3683165
I did it. The last guy was right, M3 was a bit hard because of the massive amounts of enemies but nothing like M2, and M1 (pic related) was an absolute fucking joke.

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>>3683230
Keep it up.

>>3683230
Pic related is M4, my bad.

>>3683225
H2H-XMAS.WAD is a classic Doom II megawad.
Puts me in the Christmas spirit every year.

>>3683241
Can you name another? I played that last year.

But I do agree, it's so good I can probably play it again every year.
I fucking LOVE that 12 days of christmas midi

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>>3683208
>filename

>>3682948

Oh shit you made a doomworld thread? Don't get me wrong, you're not doing anything illegal, but I hope you like moralists, because this is how you get moralists.

I'm bringing the popcorn. You madman.

>>3683237
'how would a modern vidya company handle Doom' is a question that has been present since ever. Thing is, Doom's concept is literally a blank slate to any game developer to work with. what you might consider a pinnacle of doom design might not mean the same for others and as such, they might deviate from the original idea somewhat. this should be clear enough in the way they designed the levels and overall progression system which is already frantically different, but the essence is relatively kept the same.

>>3683062
just like I'll grow out of my videogame phase?
wew that didn't work out.

>>3683374
don't fucking tie me down with your shit.

>>3683351
Is it good? I've been looking for something new to read.

>>3683416
You sound upset. What seems to be the problem?

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>>3683419
It's bound to make you laugh, and then hungry.

>>3683419
You like fantasy shit that's also about cooking? You'll like Dungeon Meshi.

>>3683203
Pretend it's just red lighting.

>>3683420
shouldn't you be pretending to speak Japanese or some shit? there's my issue.

>>3682869
but not when you hit monsters

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>trying to play vanilla doom after trying out gameplay/weapon mods
Jesus, I don't think I can ever play vanilla ever again.

>>3683457
I still love vanilla after all these years.

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>>3683457
Did you play on UV? Doom on UV is a perfect game.

Let me tell you a shitty analogy: Vanilla Doom is like that death metal ballad you never get tired of hear. Gameplay mod is like a drunk punk band playing in a bar

>>3683437
yokaro

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So I'm playing through TNT: Evilution for the first time. Almost halfway through it, and I'm having a gay old time.

Why does everybody hate this again?

>>3683457
Which gameplay mods do you usually stick to?

I've tried Brutal Doom, and I gotta say, vanilla is far superior.

>18 years later
>finally figure out that I can hit the door with the sword to force them open
NervousLaugh.mp3

>>3683480
Yamero. Baka.

>>3683496
don't know either. the number of chaingunner+revenant encounters isn't even high and the wad overall is pretty manageable. techbase themed maps actually feel believable. is it the lack of giantass hard monster encounters from Plutonia?

>>3683496
Evilution is fine, but Plutonia is pure trash.

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You should know what to do.

>>3683515
I like it.

>>3683514
Not if you play it with the custom soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNVltL2aA2k&t=4663s

>>3683496
A lot of people can't deal with hitscanners, because a lot of people seem to think you're never supposed to take cover in Doom.

>>3683457
I used to think that, but honestly, sometimes I still have a grand old time with vanilla gameplay, Doom is fundamentally fun.

>>3683501
Brutal Doom has some nice ideas and a lot of horrible execution.
I feel Accessories To Murder cuts a lot of the fat from BD and looks nicer, though I've edited my versions to be more to my liking, so I'm not sure it counts.

>>3683496
The last 10 levels or so are pretty bad imo, especially compared to Plutonia (Mount Pain being the most egregious offender here).

>>3683049
I like hdoom the way it is, but man it would be great if the demons werent changed

do anybody play this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H1g8qSHP0I

>>3683572
I like the demons animations.

>>3683580
>multiplayer
No.

>>3683361
Wow, you're right, it's like literally the very first thing said. Oh well, all feedback is some feedback and I can always delete the thread if need be.

How do you access nightmare mode in the 1.5 update section for arcane dimensions. It was on skill 3 i. The hub but when i started a level it reverted to 2

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>>3683580
have they removed the weapon limit and made it fun yet?

>>3683523
sorry anon, but TNT's OST is so much better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-HzIuq5ZjI&index=10&list=PLwJy5y9vuI0QDXrBgLyPaudFmFbIKRfo7

>>3683639
Scratch that im a moron i didnt select nightmare mode at all

>>3683639
Activating the nightmare pillar in the starting hub then moving to the 1.5 hub and jumping into one of its maps works fine for me. I don't think the 1.5 hub has its own nightmare secret.

>>3683437
Wakana...!

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>>3683457

Both can be fun.
I have a lot of fun working on and playing other gameplay mods, but vanilla is something I keep going back to again and again.

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>>3683658
>I don't think the 1.5 hub has its own nightmare secret.
It has the same difficulty pillar setup as the normal hub, though- and it has a hidden Nightmare pillar under the ground.

can we all agree that hugo martin singlehandedly saved id and should be appointed to every position in the company at once

>>3683721

Go to bed, Hugo Martin.

>>3683721
it's time to stop posting, Hugo

>>3683721

make me yours Hugo

>>3683721
Stop it, Hugo.

>>3683721
Hug me, Hugo boi.

>>3683721
You're not my boss, Hugo.

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It's that time of week again. Post what you're working on.

Post your sprites, your maps, your code, your models, whatever you've been making recently. Post that shit.

>>3683787
>whatever you've been making recently
Well, I'm making a lot noise. Does that count?

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>>3683787
I tried hacking together a sprite version of the Grenade Launcher from Doom 2016's DLC. It didn't turn out enormously well, but it seems to have coaxed other, more talented people to give it a shot, so i suppose it was successful in that regard.

>>3683721

Have you made Tim Willits your bitch yet, based Hugo?

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>>3683787
making my first map

>>3683778
>Hugo Boss
heh

>>3683230 here again
Just finished the game. The second battle with the Mastermind was a joke compared to the first one, I was fully stocked with extra health and armor and it got into an infight with the barons that helped me a lot.

Now onto DOOM II.

>>3683819
>someone finally got it
About fucking time.

>>3683721
I only reply for Marty.

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>>3683787
Trying to muster up the motivation to start working on this one again. Working towards a complete pack of 10-20 levels

>>3683795
Looks good to me

>>3683831
That actually looks nice and easy to use. How does it compare to Worldcraft? It's my only reference.

>>3683721
Agreed, id Software is at its best when it is creatively led by a person of color. Makes u think

>>3683836
As far as I can tell it's the easiest thing ever. I picked it up in a couple days. Just look up some tutorials and you should be good to go.

Never used Worldcraft though. I'm fairly new to this whole mapping thing. Still having problems using the doom in hexen format for whatever reason so I just decided to ignore it for now.

>>3683856
>person of color
he's a latino, same as romero.

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>>3683870
ROMERO IS NATIVE AMERICAN

REEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>3683787
Started working on my first map after over two years. I've only got the entry room done, though, because I spent a lot of time trying to make it look nicer and figuring out what I wanted, plus making the teleporter pad took a few iterations before I got something I liked. Tried to make it a bit reminiscent of the entry to TNT's first map, which inspired the "berserk only" idea behind the map. Might look through some texture packs in a while to find better tech-base textures to work with.

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>>3683787
I got bored working with Heretic so I went back to normal Doom. I'm still not entirely sure what I'm making here.

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>>3683798
remember, when you're stuck on a room, just scale it up or down. Humans are innately bad with scale/size; you're probably imagining something bigger or smaller than it ends up being.

And don't be afraid to mush stuff together...

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>>3683787
A sequel my previous map "Just Doomin it"
this time with less slaughter. Usually I was working on the mall map, but it gotten too spacious so i had to scrap it.

Why does my project brutality look like shit?

>>3683905
Because it's still pretty much Brudul Duum.

>>3683721
But seriously, I wonder if there are people who post in this thread that actually work at id?

>>3683856
>thinking race=skill
>>/tumblr/

i know youre prolly joking, im taking the piss outta you

>>3683929

hi

I'm using DOSBox for an old DOS version of Doom but I can't get it fullscreen and there's no sound. What do? I think the sound might be a compatibility issue since I'm using a 750ti which is a newer card.

>>3683958
Don't use DOSBox. Use GZDoom. Or ZDoom. Or Skulltag.

I dunnot.

>>3683958
>>3683962
use prboom+, like a real man

not that kiddy zdoom derived crap

.....
or just use gzdoom, whatever

>>3683457
That's what I feared for a while because i played D4D for months but I just played through No End in Sight and Vanilla still feels so great

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>>3683958
>I'm using DOSBox for an old DOS version of Doom
There's no good reason to be playing straight DOSBox these days. Get Chocolate Doom if you want that classic experience.

>>3682891
>>3682897
More like Laser Cannon.

>>3684057
that red text is an eye-sore

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>>3684089
Funny how Quake had a Gatling blaster before it even became a thing in Star Wars.

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>>3683787

>>3684107
>Star Wars
When did 40k have a gatling laser?

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>>3684143

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How does one go about setting up arcane dimensions co-op?

EZquake won't run it, and in quakespasm I just can't connect to anyone.

If anyone has a working quakespasm/fitzquake serbian pls share config and your retard feeding spoon.

>>3682948
What is NEIS?

>>3684171
Quake laser cannon gets linked to Star Wars because it pretty much uses stock blaster noises combined with the familiar red energy bolts. No 40K here.

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>>3683787
Feeling bit macabre, getting back into mapping so I can finish Disjunction.wad ( try out beta )
I need to spice up colourscheme a bit, while the sort of spooky crypt is theme, I could use variety. Perhaps use light really strongly...

>ctrQuake

Well, this isn't an overly bad implementation of Quake on the 3DS. Only real issue is the abysmal amount of available bindings in the options, for things like specific weapons.

>>3682997
this would be 123253453 times better with a neck

>>3684294
Didn't someone get Quake running on the original DS?

Is there a wad that adds DOOM II stuff to the DOOM I maps?

>>3684336
it's questionably legal given that you'd have to repackage the maps with the new stuff added in
the only mod that actively does it is the PSX Doom TC, and that's because UV on PSX Doom added in Doom 2 enemies to the maps

>>3684336
What does that even mean?

>>3684339
he's never actually played doom 1 and can't live without his super shitgun

>>3684340
Not him but I wouldn't mind having the enemy types added in just to spice the difficulty up.
>E4M2 with chaingunners

>>3684338
I'll check the PSX Doom then. Thanks.
>>3684339
DOOM I maps with new enemies.

>>3684336

Not really, due to legal concerns and lack of interest. The closest you're going to get is the mentioned PSX Doom TC.

>>3684343
>>3684345
The PSX port has this. I don't know if anyone has ported the PSX WADs to PC though.

>>3684348
what do you think I was referring to in >>3684338
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/57957-psx-doom-final-doom-tc-version-2-135-now-released/

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>>3684350
>>what do you think I was referring to in >>3684338
I completely skipped over your post without reading it, anon.

>>3683061
>If you play on ZDoom, and a revenant is shooting a rocket towards you, with nowhere to hide, duck
I hate this as much as people that jump over demons.

>>3684403
I hate all of those tacked on features. Just why.

>>3683457
I'm the opposite. I can play vanilla gameplay all day everyday. Where as I get bored of gameplay mods after 30 mins of play.

>>3683514
>Plutonia is pure trash

Nah. Its the most exciting iwad for me.

>>3684313
Yeah. This runs quite smoothly though.

There's also a PrBoom+ port on the 3DS that's included by default, but it doesn't detect CPP/N3DS ZL/ZR buttons or C-Stick.

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>>3683787

>>3684403
Why does it bother you? ZDoom is ZDoom.

>>3684336
I remember coming across some old command-line tool that could convert Doom 1 PWADs to work with Doom 2, adding enemies and the super shotgun in there. Managed to get it to work with the Doom 1 IWAD by changing it's header, and while it works...I wouldn't recommend playing on UV after the conversion.

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So how's the progress on doomchock going, has there been an update yet?

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>>3684476
*doomshock
Fuck me

I'm thinking of making a danmaku-inspired wad with lots of projectiles and a focus on avoiding them. Has this been done before?

>>3684489
well there's the literal Touhou Doom mod
Action Doom sorta, it's not a Danmaku but it goes the old Contra/Metal Slug route of 'one hit you're dead'.

there's also a literal Contra Doom mod out there that changes the gameplay to resemble Contra, but no special maps of its own

>>3684489
Term made a birthday map for that japanese artist a while ago that has a whole lot of bullets, don't know where you'd find it, and the final boss for DUMP 3 is apparently bullet hell ish

>>3684489

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=53548

>>3684494
>don't know where you'd find it

https://www.dropbox.com/s/45y2elku1997p5h/happy-birthday-kurashiki.pk3?dl=1

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>>3683787
Just blocking in the rooms, haven't gone into detailing or anything yet

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Ha, it's in orbit!

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>>3683787

>>3684505
thanks

>>3682731
started making a map for QUMP, anything specific I will have to do once the map is done?

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>>3684521
shambler ate my pic

>>3684517
>SSGs in space

We're fucked.

Doomed, if you will.

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>>3683425

Any good tutorials for TrenchBroom?

>>3684521
Post it here so we can play it, I guess?

It isn't really an official project or anything ,more just people saying "hey everyone always makes doom stuff, it would be cool to make some motherfuckin' quake shit."

>>3684578
Follow the built-in stuff in the help menu. Trenchbroom itself is pretty easy once you learn the shortcuts- the harder part is actually manipulating brushes and setting up entities, which is the same in every editor. Brushes tend to throw people for a loop the first time they try to make a simple arched doorway or even a window cutout.

>>3684524
>even in a simple wireframe view the slipgate on the right is immediately recognizable
man, it's the little things.

>>3684619
I dont plan on releasing it outside of this place really, I have made maps for different games but its first time mapping for quake.

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>>3684637
Post it so we can play it anyway, on Mega or dropbox or something. Quake stuff is always good.

>>3684650
still wip, gonna take a while as I am learning Trenchbroom as I go. when its done it will be a small map in style of E1M2 or something like that

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Thinking of getting a Who Dun It server running on Zandronum. Would anyone here like to tag along?

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How did he do this 3d looking flesh terrain?

That looks amazing.
Much more organic than conventional means of making something look corrupted.

>>3684734
"megatextures"
model is made in 3d software, imported as terrain, texture was baked earlier and its used as a flat

>>3684735
How hard is it to make a model for shit like that?

If you've got some links that explain this (preferably in doom context) i'd appreciate it.

>>3684521
Post a link in the google doc once its done and I'll attempt to link them all together....

Then we can post them here and people can play through them n shit

So does anyone know a good, noob accepting community of Hal Life modders? I decided to check upon sven coop since a friend mentioned them to me ages ago. They seem only slightly active, and I'm catching hints that apparently some major drama shit is going on there.

>>3684756
>forum drama

What I love about chan culture is drama isn't ever taken outside of a thread because we don't all know one another by forum posts.

So god damn lame seeing that pathetic shit play out elsewhere.

>>3684756
You can post/ask about Half-Life modding here since it's on topic for the thread, but most here talk about DOOM and Quake. Personally it's pretty hard to find shit about the original Half-Life when it comes to mapping sometimes for me but I'm fucking retarded so that might be why.

Is it wrong to use Hammer to make Half-Life maps or should I switch to a third party tool?

>>3684761
And the shame is that it's always the same sort of drama, involving one group accusing the person in charge of being a nazimod and banning everyone the disagree with, or the person in charge accusing the group of people of fucking shit up. It's a shame when you want to look up a community to have fun with, only to find a huge reddit dump about skype logs and drama and shit.

Chans are amazing for that reason, yeah, the anonymity keeps things simple, but it also removes a bit of the community, and once you form a group, you fall prey to the same drama.

>>3684765
Trust me, I know. I was at least able to contact one nice person through sven co op who gave me a good bit of info for mapping/modeling, hammer is good, but I was reffered some specialist program for Half Life called sledge, though I haven't tried it out myself yet.

>>3684769
Yeah but we can identify eachother easily enough. Like if I show what I've been working on (or just use a name) people can be like "oh hey it's that guy".

Being anon is great because you can easily and quickly spitball ideas and your name isn't on it so what the hey.

I cringe though at cancerous idiots crapping on with "I don't like this guys politics outside of Doom so nyeeeh exclude them, make it safe for me".

You can go to forums and find people still mad at eachother for forum disagreements that happened years ago.

I think it's this sort of stuff that killed off "Ceeb" (the furry). Talented and all....but just a drama machine/magnet.

>>3684770
Why is it always furries? Is it the "Jews did 9/11" of internet drama?

>>3684770
Well you are right, though sometimes I see chans spread the line between forum drama and thread drama thin. If you've ever been to /adgd/ on /vg/, there's a ton of people that are essentially tripfags, who have shat up stuff so much that they're known by name, and essentially blacklisted to their own private communities. Sometimes even chans can't hold back a persons autism.

>>3684772
No idea, I don't mind them (i think their antics can be funny) but where they are drama appears.

It's kind of dropped off in recent years though.
Transexuals can be around drama I've seen lately, but furries outnumber them considerably.

>>3684773
A lot of forum users hate here because it's hard to build up their wanky personality cult that they think anybody cares about. Tripcode users are irritating for this reason.....you use one if you need to be identified in that thread and it's important....otherwise why bother.

>>3684770

>ceeb

He used to be a friend of mine, he actually used to make me custom weaponsets for Doom years and years ago, I kinda freaked him out when I came back to him after being out of contact so long and showed him some of the weapons I've made, now he's completely gone off the deep end and spends his time writing furry smut.

>>3684774
Another reasons Anonymous is great is because there's no reputation system, so everyone's opinion is valuable. On a forum, I've seen new or occasional posters being ignored because "they're never here" or "they're too new to know".
I even saw it happen on an imageboard, people being ignored because they arrived less than one year ago.

>>3684738
dont bother if you dont know 3D, its easy on doom side of things but on blender/max/maya side you will have to know how to properly model, unwrap, texture, light and bake textures before it can be used in doom.

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>>3684776
That doesn't surprise me.

He looked talented at what he could pull of.....he was just crazy.

>>3684198
No End In Sight, recently released classic-style megawad

>>3684772
People who make their favourite weird sex stuff the central element of their online identity tend to be... melodramatic about things on the internet at the best of times.

>>3684814
Pretty much.

Then because their weird sex stuff is what they see as central to who they are, they view disagreement as somebody attacking that sex stuff instead of "I disagree with your stated idea".

This explains a whole lot about drama from many people online actually, who can't stop saying how they're an xyz.

Yeah, you're an xyz, your ideas are still shit.

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>>3684650
>ear sticking out of helmet

>>3684819
in the slip no one can hear you HUUH

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wip

>>3684823
oh shit nigga you dropped your shotgun

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I'm not sure how to feel about this screenshot from Cage's latest project thing...

The textures and the weapon are nothing to write home about, they're as great as it can be expected from somebody like him.

What I'm not feeling are the bruiser brothers, they look odd.

>>3684825

What the fuck is that, a jackhammer?

>>3684825
Is this Supplice or something else?

>>3684825 (me)
>The textures and the weapon are nothing to write home about, they're as great as it can be expected from somebody like him.

A small addendum for this statement: this wasn't meant to be derogatory, those who know about his works will agree he's a tremendous guy with graphics.

>>3684829
>>3684827
The thing on the end looks like some kind of muzzle break.

>>3684825
Looks cool, what's it about?

>>3684827
Looks like some kind of cannon or heavy weapon, I almost want to say it's a flamethrower.

>>3684831
then why nobody can figure out whats the gun on your screenshot?

>>3684825
What is this, and where can I learn more?

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>>3682968
>no replies

>>3684875
Try dead.wire or Nihilism

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Reminder that Arcane Dimensions is receiving the final update today.

>>3684917
Wasn't 1.5 the final update? Are they releasing a hotfix?

>>3684917
Final? Aww shit.

>>3684917
That was done with quake 1's engine?

At a first glance you would think it's modern, but when you look at details you can see it's quake.

>>3684925
Quakespasm is a pretty powerful engine. Basically the GZDoom for Quake forked from Quake's very own OpenGL port from id in the 90s.

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>>3684919
Bugfixes and the map (pic related) that wasn't available in 1.5.

>>3684921
Yup, final final.

>>3684926
It actually reminds me too of the beautiful levels that can be made for doom with quake's textures.

>>3684927
>those sprite vines
I don't know why I love them so much. Someone might call them ugly but I think it's charming.

>>3684929
Sure gives a level texture. If they weren't there, the level would feel way more barren.

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>>3684925
Yeah. Arcane Dimensions is a Quake 1 mod meant to be run in Quakespasm- AD makes use of some slightly snazzier than stock particle effects, expanded map limits (size and entitiy-wise), and adds some breakable objects, but most of the geometry is still all brush based and none of the texture work is any more detailed than Quake itself (other than the skyboxes- that's admittedly a big change, cube skyboxes instead of Quake's single texture), keeping the same 1 texture pixel = 1 map unit rule from the base game.

It's also fucking goddamn gorgeous. Unfortunately the newest version does include higher poly world models for the guns (which look good) and a new Shambler model (which looks less than good).

>>3684929
they're not sprites because they don't rotate to face the camera
they're flat textures with transparency (which is another sourceport feature, as original quake doesn't support transparency at all in textures)

>>3684934
>original quake doesn't support transparency at all in textures
It doesn't? Damn, it's been so long since I've played the original I don't remember anymore what it did and did not support. I was certain it supported transparent textures. Even Doom had them, it'd be weird if Quake did not.

>>3684489
How funny. I had the same idea yesterday. Go for it, anon

>>3684986
Doom had transparent textures? Or are you thinking on sprites?

>>3685002
mid textures such as bars/windows could be transparent, there is shitload of them anon

>>3684143
That looks sick as fuck!
I love the color pallete. Almost makes it look dream like!

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>>3685002
Doom does have transparent textures.

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Anybody here knows a source for cool fire based deaths ? My mod has a "somewhat realistic" look so most cool firedeath animations (except maybe the one from blood) look a little too cartoony.

>>3685096
>blood
>not cartoony
You must have missed the blood splatters everywhere when they die after being burned alive.

>>3685104

I know I know, but I cant think of a more "realistic" looking one, you know, in terms of charred body, and flame look...

>>3685107
I kinda liked how TF2 did it, by adding new textures over the existing model, but I have no idea if it's realistic. I never saw a man burning to death.
And I don't really know how it would work anyway.

>>3685110
I doubt its possible in DooM, in tf2 another material is applied on top of the model with fire particles being attached to bones

>>3685107
Brutal Doom has some good ones.

>>3685110

Heh, well, I'm not looking necessarily for snuff movie realism, let's just say that Strife's yellow as fuck flames or Rise of the Triad's perfect skellington (with matching xylophone sound) would look pretty out of place. Just wondering if some game has a cool death animation with photorealistic-ish flames and a nice looking crispy corpse.

Just a question, sometimes there's fucking gems to plunder from obscure games of the past.

I guess I'll just keep modifying the one from damage incorporated to look slightly more photorealistic... But my spriting skillz are fucking shit

>>3684986

only Darkplaces and FTEQW does it, but Darkplaces is /vr/ hated child and FTEQW is pretty much dead and unfinished

>>3685112
What if you add a semi-transparent sprite over the existing one? Is it possible?

>>3685116
>Rise of the Triad's perfect skellington (with matching xylophone sound)
Wait what?

>>3685116
while tf2 was referenced but its cartoony, half life 2 sorta does a nice work
while bodies dont change their skins in real time, there were quite a few burned corpses, and any enemies who catch on fire panic and behave differently, combine soldiers flail around trying to put them out and failing, zombies scream eM pleH doG while raising their arms and antlions move faster while letting out high pitched squeaks.
>>3685120
you cant layer sprites in things, but as I mentioned above, you could make "burning" variants of enemies that would have slightly different behaviors, you wouldnt have to attach particles or anything, just put some flames on their existing sprites while charring them.

>>3685120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YayFqT0Wpw

This.. Never seen it ?

>>3685130
Never played Rise of the Triad. That's pretty hilarious.

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>>3685130
>xylophone noises

>>3684521

I'm doing one too, and I also don't know how to do them, I think we are two persons

>>3685070
I guess what he meant was 'alpha values'. Those have just black as mask-value which is not drawn.

>>3685181
vines in that quake map >>3684927 use the same method

>>3685134
it's an incredible game. super hilarious at points, and a HUGE amount of content — plus lots of neat multiplayer modes and maps

wish there were proper source ports though. original controls and resolution are absolute trash

the soundtrack is amazing too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX_Kb0cDN98

the 2013 game was ok. I payed $5 for it, and I felt like I got my value out of it

Are there any mods that turn doom into a roguelike with randomized weapons, stats and levels and shit?

>>3685221
DRPG with DRLA, although the current version of the former requires the upcoming version of the latter to work properly, and the UI is a bit... overwhelming, to say the least.

And use an Obliege map pack (the new version is pretty good)

>>3685206
>proper source ports
I played it with WinROTTgl or some shit, is that not proper?

>>3685236
huh, last time I checked they didn't do resolution correctly. but that was years ago.

I might have to try out these newfangled ports again

>>3685257
When The Apogee Pack came out on steam, I used that source port
I don't remember if it supported all resolutions, but i remember not having any complaints about it. I know that's vague as fuck, but it's coming from a guy who gets annoyed at playing Blood

So I'm doing my first run through of all the episodes of Ultimate Doom, Hurt Me Plenty difficulty:

Why are Cacodemons so tough? They take ~30 bullets to down. Hell knights and Barons are also hard as fuck, they take around 4-5 rockets each.

>>3685291
there are no barons in OG doom, Hell Knights are commonly refered to as "ammo tax", cacos aint that tough, use chaingun for ez kills

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>>3684776
>What I love about chan culture is drama isn't ever taken outside of a thread

>>3685293
>there are no barons in OG Doom
Other way around, there's no Hell Knights in the first game, they were added later to fill out the bestiary and fill out the gap.

>>3685301
>cacos aren't that tough
I'm pretty sure they take more bullets than hell knights.

Hell barons are broken.

>>3685306
oh yeah I confused the names
then again, its a samefag with lower HP pool
>>3685309
caco is 400hp
knight is 500hp
baron is 1000hp

>Someone made a midi of song I really have wanted to use in map
Oh boy oh boy. Too bad it is kinda shoddy...

>>3685313
So low? I thought they were way beefier than that.

>>3685317
I wish we had a .midi fag in these threads.

>>3685318
500hp is quite stout if you compare it to Doomguy, who can be 200hp at his highest, with 200ap, which isn't exactly hp, so let's say Doomguy's maximum is roughly equivalent of 300hp or so.

>>3685325
Yeah. There are bunch of tracks that I would love to make a map to. The particular track I have long wanted to make map to - it is ok, but do you think it really holds up?

http://www.vgmusic.com/new-files/axelay2.mid

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>>3685291

>Hurt Me Plenty

>>3685329
Not how it works. HP/Damage asymmetry is a common thing in games.

>>3685337
In RPG, yeah. Not so much in FPS. Well, except Serious Sam, but in FEAR, enemies causes as much damage as you do.

>>3685335
He said it's first playthrough, he would he know what's and what's not?

I still play on HMP, i feel like any harder forces me to quicksave

>>3685227
This is cool stuff. Thanks, anon.

>>3685340
desu I think that ep1-3 are easy on UV without any saving at all. pistol starts aren't too bad— lots of guns lying around

>>3685329
>let's say Doomguy's maximum is roughly equivalent of 300hp or so.
*rubs temples* this is not that hard to calculate out. blue armor absorbs half of incoming damage. if naked baby doomguy can take 100 points of damage before he dies, 200/200 doomguy can take 400 points of damage.

>>3685380
you're probably right, i just never got around to re-playing doom on a harder difficulty, i only do wads

>>3685385
>*rubs temples*
Please don't do this.

>>3685392
*holds up spork*

>>3685340

if you are not dying 10 times per map you are not playing doom correctly

>>3685117
Quakespasm handles transparent textures just fine (that's what the screenshots are of), you just have to name the texture with a { at the start to tell it to turn a certain color invisible (similar to the first character making a texture lava/water/etc).

>>3685181
QS does alpha too, at least per-model (no actual individually transparent parts of a texture)- take the shit you want transparent, make it into a func_wall or func_door, and add the 'alpha' key for its info.

>>3685392
*attacks gamestop employee*

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Why is the game texture filtered, all but his pants? How does this work?

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>>3685432

COPY THAT.

>>3685446
he's like a black version of eric chahi

>>3685438
His jumping ability is so shitty his legs don't even get filters.

>>3685438
Texture filtering modes are per-texture, not global. You can have one bilinearly filtered texture, one with no filtering at all (ie. nearest) and so on, for example.

>>3683227
The fourth episode of Doom is called "Thy flesh consumed".

>>3685505
o_o

>>3685508
>Giving it attention

>>3685446
is that Marlon Wayans?