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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZzpH6IbkZo
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>>3673638
Sonic CD had the best ending theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS6VFMYGAl0
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>>3673638
Even though I played the hell out of S&K as a child, the hook from Sonic 1 is still my favorite.

>>3673652
> It's another episode of Sonic CD contrarians
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>>3673662
But sonic CD was unique and good.
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>>3673663
A time travel gimmick doesn't make up for the easy and boring bosses (sans Metal Sonic race), mediocre to rubbish zones, and the UFO being the worst special stage in the series.
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Sonic 1, always. In every aspect.
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>>3673638
Sonic 1 feels more triumphant
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Rank your Sanics:

S&k> S2> S1> S3> SCD
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>>3673771
Basically yes
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>>3673771

1>2>CD>K>3
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>>3673771
Why is 3 so low?
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>>3673727
>>3673771
Honestly, it's become cool to hate sonic CD and it's underrated because of it.
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>>3673838
Just how it falls. Don't let the ranking fool you. I love S3.

>>3673846
SCD is by no means a bad game but I do agree with everything >>3673727 said. Seems to be one of those you either love or find it "meh" kinda games with not a lot of in-betweners.
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>>3673638
S3 for sure. Sweet and straightforward.
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Mmmm, I'd say S3. Short, sweet, and gets you feeling good for the next zone.

If I think about it, S2's was just like, "Alright, made it through." just to start another slog.

I think the music variety in S3 did it for me. Different music for a different part, yet still keeping with the level theme.
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>>3673771
16-bit:
S&K > 3 > 1 > 2 > CD

8-bit:
2 > TT > 1 > Chaos > Blast
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>>3673771
S3&K > S&K > S2 > S3 > S1 > CD

I don't know why but sonic and knuckles has so much repla ability
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>>3673638
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhRGVkuLnrE
>all
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>>3673662
Sonic CD being a shitty game doesn't mean that it didn't have an incredible soundtrack.
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>>3673638
>>3673652
I need the Ring Total "ka-ching!" sound effect at the end to really make a serious decision here, it just doesn't sound correct without it
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>>3674654
American, right? The JP music is kinda garbage.
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>>3673771
2 > 3 > CD > 1 > S&K, I rank them by what levels I like most.
I just feel that S&K doesn't have as many good memorable levels as 2 or 3. Discounting all first zone levels, Sonic and Knuckles has Flying Battery and Sky Sanctuary, 2 has Chemical Plant, Casino Night, Aquatic Ruin, and Mystic Cave, and 3 by itself has Hydrocity, Ice Cap, and Carnival Night. That's why it's far down on my list. 1 has some real oddball choices but it's above S&K because it has fucking Star Light Zone, that's a personal favorite.
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>>3674689
>The JP music is kinda garbage.
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>>3673652
I'm glad someone else enjoys the US ost. I feel like people think its bad just because it's not the original but both are amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj_geCzGYHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn7pK00Us3A

I also love the noise when you get a extra life.
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>>3673771
CD = S&K+3 > 2 > 1 > a pile of shit > 3Dblast
2 is pretty close to 3 though.
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>>3673771
3>2>1>&K>CD
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>>3674692
>I rank them by what levels I like most
Isn't that how they should be ranked? I mean, it's the most objective means by which the games can be measured, since the controls between them are all pretty similar, and anything else is just superficial.
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>>3673771
2 > S&K > 3 > 1 > CD

I think 2 is amazing. Wonderful flow. The kind of game that I start playing and find it hard to stop. Before I know it I'm at Mystic Cave Zone or something. Also, 2 acts per zone is perfect. Why is it the only game to do this?

S&K is solid. Great levels and the addition of a second character with different abilities changes up how you can approach obstacles.

I can never remember if I should put 3 below 1. Both are pretty flawed. 3 just reeks of being unfinished, whereas &K does a much better job of standing alone. 3 also has some overly-long and repetitive levels. A lot of segments that just play themselves while you hold right. Still a good game, but it pales in comparison to 2.

I often debate how much I dislike Sonic 1. Still a good game, but it feels like a test run for Sonic 2. The physics and controls are spot on, but the game rarely lets you have any fun with them. Marble Garden zone is the biggest case of blue balls I've ever had in a game. A lot of other levels are also repetitive and give you that deja vu feeling, especially Springyard and Twilight.

I never played CD growing up because I didn't own a Sega CD. I imagined it had to be amazing, so maybe it's my own fault for hyping it up. The level design was okay, but the time travel gimmick was a pointless addition. The bosses in particular were pretty lame, and a lot of the music didn't do it for me, US or JP. I couldn't have drawn the comparison at the time, but it seemed like a ROMhack, almost. Its biggest claim to fame is introducing Metal Sonic, and I suppose at least that part of the game was cool.
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>>3675406
2 only has good flow because it's the easiest of the Sanics and is the most "hold right to win".

Also 3&K has two acts per zone like 2.
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>>3673638
sonic 2
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>>3673638
I was actually really disappointed that they didn't have the old act clear music in Generations. They could have at least used it for Green Hill and Chemical Plant, or maybe have Classic have the old music, and Modern the new.
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>>3673652
sounds like the ending theme to a bad local news broadcast
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>>3673730
How can you have a such high score and have lost so many lives at the same time??
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3&K, 2-CD, 1, 3D

3&K because it's just epicness from Angel Island to Doomsday, epic score, epic levels, Knuckles, new shields, etc...

2 cause it's near perfect, best sprites and level variety, and CD cause personal...

3D is last, of course, but not because it's the worst, just cause it's not as good as the others...
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>>3677075
3D's a spinoff title though
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>>3677081
I recently replayed all the 2D saga, in chronological order. I'm a huge fan and just wanted to see if I was able to perform higher scores.
I'm ashamed to be stuck in the final boss of 3D. But I spent good moments, musics were really cool, and the graphics were superb.

Pic fucking related.
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Not even a contest, the first tune that came into my mind was Sonic 1's, couldn't even recollect Sonic 3's as quickly as Sonic 1's stage end theme.
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>>3677167
Interesting. It's usually the opposite case since the original "act clear" theme was dropped completely after Sonic 2, while the one from Sonic 3 has endured and is used in pretty much everything since.

Although since I play Sonic 1 and 2 more than any other Sonic game, I'm with you.
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>>3673771
S&K > S3 > S1 > S2 > SCD
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Can we all agree that Sonic 1 has the best boss theme?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sE7J4cilZM

Sounds the most imposing and dictatorial, almost Soviet-esque.
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>>3673771
CD>2>1>3&K>Spinball>3D Blast>Mean Bean Machine

And I love 'em all. Starting to work my way through the 8-bit titles right now. Sonic Adventure seemed to be the beginning of a long decline in the series imo, just never could get into the later games the same way.
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>>3673652

first post best post

JP version is great as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU9BkHG7IZM
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>>3677970
Eh. I like the song a lot, but I felt it didn't fit for a boss fight. It fits more as a basic theme for Dr. Robotnik, but I prefer the Sonic 2 boss theme way more. It kinda psyches you up and puts you on edge. Each time the first bit of the melody repeats, it adds on another layer. It's a great tune that turns up the energy at the end of Act 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBS9He25v30

1 is my second favorite though, 3&K is last. It seems like they were copying Sonic 2, only less energetic somehow.
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>>3677970
Caught me off guard, though I prefer the tension of the 'Final Zone' music, myself. It sounds like you're in the heart of the machine itself.
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>>3678378
TELEPORTATION YEA WAAAAAA
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>>3673638
3 > CD(JP) > 1/2 > CD(US)
>>3673771
3&K > 3 > K >/= CD > 2 > 1
Sonic 1 is the only one that I find a bit less enjoyable as the years have gone on. I guess between no spin dash and some of the level design, it just feels a bit more primitive to the rest of the series. I like all the other games plenty, but I'm definitely a 3&K fanboy because I grew up playing that one the most on that old Sonic collection ROM.

How about your favorite zones? I've always loved the fuck out of Hydrocity, Mushroom Hill, and Flying Battery zones.
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