DOOT THE TRUMPETS OF ARMAGEDDON

=== NEWS ===

[11-9] Suddenly a Russian Overkill update
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29915&p=953003#p953003

[11-9] RIP Malinku, Doom mapper
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/everything-else/91549-user-malinku-was-murdered/

[11-7] Total Chaos, a GZDoom total total total conversion, has alpha release
http://www.moddb.com/mods/total-chaos

[11-7] Someone else is making a Doom 4 mod for Doom, called ''Zion''.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Evd4teWlJo

[11-5] SYNTH DOOM, anon-made 80s inspired retro music mod
https://mega.nz/#!KlBiAJDC!PuPUNjIjKdqK6NISzhQlWs8I7hUIrIkpvSuOyRnH4uE

[11-5] Moonman, a racist /pol/.wad monster randomizer fork
http://www.mediafire.com/?47bsdg96m9xju8i

[11-2] Warp House - A Shores of Hell inspired GZDoom map with a lot of monsters, secrets and 20,000 sectors to explore
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=949685#p949685

[11-2] "Runballs" Doom mod in development
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t1EitY_fxQ [Embed]

[10-30] Doom4Doom 2.0 released - a gameplay mod that brings the Doom 2016 weapons into the classic Doom maps
http://www.moddb.com/mods/d4d-doom4-for-doom/downloads/d4d-v20

[10-30] Brutal Doom 64 released - merging Doom 64 and Brutal Doom (sort of)
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom-64

[10-30] Wolfendoom - Blade of Agony trailer, first chapter coming November 12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cyO9iq-tjA [Embed]

[10-28] Ghosted 2, a mod for Doom that's like that Slenderman game where you look for pages while he tries to get you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj_ogrQyISM [Embed]

[10-24] Green Arrow, a new Wolf3D mod based on the Arrow comics and television show
http://www.moddb.com/mods/green-arrow/downloads

[10-22] The Dreamwell Enigma: Barlington Estate - map for Blood
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61367

[10-22] Dracula's Castle, halloween map for Duke 3D
https://forums.duke4.net/topic/8996-rel-draculas-castle/

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Its the Doom

That's some pretty good rev cosplay.

consider me agitated desu

>>3610868
>~~ Let's post like megamen ~~
You fucked up.

why is moonman STILL in the newspost

>>3610895
>hating on moonman

you some kind of nigger?

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>>3610868
>Keeping the shitposter's needless alteration of the op copypasta

derp

>>3610898
Not him, it's simply not a great jokewad.

>>3610908
This is great.

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>>3610908
5/5

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Anybody here more interested in how the engine for Doom was made rather than the actual game? Don't get me wrong, I play Doom all the time, but I'm just more curios about how Carmack found and worked around the limits of the original engine.

>>3610927
Hi didn't work around the limits. He was the one to set those limits.

>>3610929

You don't just make an entire game engine for a game that was such a technological breakthrough such as doom by yourself.

There has to be more to it than that.

>>3610927
>>3610929
Exactly. Rather he had to work around the limits of modern computers at the time to be able to run it so smoothly.

To answer the question, sure, I've always found that stuff to be extremely interesting even if I don't understand half of it since I don't really know that much about game engines and how they're made. Though Carmack really seems to know his shit, at least from what I've heard

>>3610935
He's a coding and engine building savant. A true geek.

>>3610898
It was funny in 2005, and it was kind of oddly amazing to see someone drag it back up from the depths, but the .wad isn't really anything amazing.

>>3610932
>There has to be more to it than that.

Yeah, John Romero helped

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>>3610932
Carmack saw what was out at the time and thought to himself "I can do better". And so he did.

Okay, I just got started with Doom properly a couple of days ago. I've looked through all the sticky stuff and the closest I've found to 'essential WADs' is a list of about 1000 mods to work your way through. What, in your opinion, is the BEST complete Doom game ever released?

>>3610986
>What, in your opinion, is the BEST complete Doom game ever
Doom

>>3610986
Icarus and Memento Mori will always have a special place in my heart.

>>3610986
From the original Id stuff, ultimate doom episodes 1-3. From stuff created by the community, definitely Hellbound, Back to Saturn X, Sunlust and Ancient Aliens although I haven't finished any of them yet.

>>3610986
Reverie is the only megawad I liked enough to play from start to finish but even then I only managed to do it once. I think No Rest for the Living is the best set of Doom levels ever but it's only 9 maps.

>>3610986
I played only a bit of Doom on the 386sx which was way too puny to handle the game well, so most of my memories are from when after my dad got an AMD 486 clone and later a copy of Doom II from Computer City. Gotta admit that figuring out the levels was a pain, especially since I didn't really have a decent guidebook (I had and referred to one for the original game pretty often) but the things I learned from Doom 1 helped a hell of a lot with trying to figure out the trickier levels in Doom 2.

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>>3610908
>BJ as the coach

What's a fun gameplay mod for zDoom other than other than Russian Overkill?

>>3611029
Trailblazer (from the same dev as RO)
DRLA
LegenDoom
D4D
Wrath of Cronos

>>3610979
Namely, he saw small viewport and limited capabilities of Ultima Underworld. While Doom engine is a bit more limited in terms of architecture and actual 3D, it works much faster and allows for much more flat vertices and sprites to be rendered on screen, which is why it looked more impressive, and is regarded as the thing that made first person 3D mainstream.

>>3611002
Hellbound becomes a boring slog by map 15 though. While it is aestethically and thematically well done, the gameplay leaves a lot to be desired.

>>3611071
>by map 15

You're being generous.

>>3611065
That OOzie angle looks so damn wrong.

>>3611073
Well, I couldn't bear it at map 22 and just blazed through the rest with fly and noclip just to look at architecture and detailing.

>>3611075
I personally got bored by map10

>>3611065
is that a new lolmerica powerup? I'll never use that weapon again if that's a constant feature.

>>3611080
It's an attachment called "Spontaneous Freedom" you can craft with scrap.

You don't have to craft it if you dont't want to

>>3610870
>moonman STILL in the news

>>3610969
>2005
what.

>>3611071
I do remember getting a bit tired of the length of the levels when I stopped playing but I didn't think of them as boring. It was a long time ago though, might have to look at them again

>>3611053
Thanks. DRLA looks like a good one to play with Colorful Hell.

>>3610986
You mean megawads and mapsets? I obviously can't give you an objective list, but I can list some of my dear favorites from recent years:

>Double Impact (E1 replacement that's INCREDIBLY good, makes the very best of the E1/E2 styles)
>Bloodstain (based a lot around the concept that you need to take cover to survive)
>Back To Saturn X (unfinished still, but extremely competent and breathtakingly beautiful, final ep should be due sometime next year if we're lucky)
>Nihility (still just a "demo" episode, but it's supremely atmospheric and has a solid oldschool Doom aesthetic to it by the use of Alpha and Beta resources, along with clever DeHacked content, it makes the very most out of everything it has)
>Suspended In Dusk (a short little episode made by late mapper Espi, a textbook example of the kind of high quality stuff he made, good looking and atmospheric)

>>3611136
Try separating the art from the artist. Also try stopping engaging in arguments over twitter, it's a complete waste of time

>>3611157
This does not and will not effect my feelings about Doom. Still a total game changer and still one of my most played games (well, mods and source ports of it) week to week.

Just thought that was shitty, and relevant to a thread I hang around 24/7/365. But, I'm here often enough to know that that kind of post won't last long, and lo and behold, it hasn't.

And yeah, it's really, really hard to make a cogent point with the character limit on there, ADHD-soundbyte style stuff, at most.

Back to mapping I go. Actually I'm gonna keep talking about it but I'm gonna talk about it in /pol/, 'cuz, y'know, it's political and all.

>>3610868
Complete doom noob here.

Recently played from Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 for the first time on UV and had a blast.

Didn't savescum, very proud of myself.

Anyway, what else is out there? I read about megawads that are supposedly entire campaigns. What are the best ones that I can try?

Ideally 'more of the same' (not interested in gimmick maps or stuff like converting the game into an RPG or something) but perhaps a bit tougher and also unique/interesting settings and level design.

>>3611168
>Anyway, what else is out there? I read about megawads that are supposedly entire campaigns. What are the best ones that I can try?
read the op.

>>3611168
Try these >>3611002 Maybe not Hellbound but if it strikes your fancy, go for it

>>3611170
Let me clarify. When I said "What are the best ones that I can try?" I didn't mean that I wanted to wade through a mountain of shit in a nebulous OP containing fucking loads of wads without any clear indication of quality to find some gold.

I want to be told the best of the best so I can immediately enjoy new, top quality content.

So, you know "hey, this megawad is basically considered the best one ever made, try it out".

>>3611075
>>3611071
>>3611073
I think it was quite good up until around 20 where I hit my enjoyment threshold.

To be fair though, I was playing with Shut Up And Bleed, where all the monsters are meaner and the arsenal is weird, balance being all over the place, I don't think it's quite suitable for the kind of larger groups of monsters the author likes to throw at you.

The detail and progressive map design was totally my bag though.

>>3611168
>>3611170
Normally I'm all for spoonfeeding a noob, but some of the best ones are compiled in the OP, did you want a bump in difficulty, or was it about right for you?

More exploration, or more combat? Both? Or do you want things that'll amaze you that the damn thing is still running in an engine from 1993?

>>3611174
That reminds me I need to catch up - I haven't even *really* started hellbound. BTSX is *absolutely* a high recommendation though, bit heavy on difficulty but I think you can handle it.

>>3611176
Back to Saturn X, all of them, Sunlust, Scythe, theres really a pretty vast amount of excellent shit for the game. DTWID is overrated outside of 4chan but it is legitimately good (Doom the way id Did), uhh... There's literally dozens, that's why I wanna know more *exactly* what you're after.

>>3611176
>through a mountain of shit
if they're in the OP that means they're /doom/™ approved, the cream of the crop.

it's not just a listing of everything, because there's hundreds of thousands of em.

>>3611029
Project MSX is excellent.

how 2o make map

make map is ez but make fun map is hrad??

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>>3611021
It's a WIP thing that has no official name yet, but the working title is "Firebreak". It's going to be a multiplayer-focused (zandro only in fact) tactical mech/power armor shooter inspired by Terra Nova: Strike Force Centauri. Single player will be generated scenarios like in military flight sim games.

>>3611065
What wad is that map from? It looks familiar.

>>3611238
BTSX E1

>>3611225
I agree, but I believe it only runs in gzdoom.

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My old computer doesn't manage it at a very high framerate, but Total Chaos sure looks pretty.

>>3611254
It's amazing that it's running on the GZDoom engine.

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>>3611256
I how most of the tricks in use works, which doesn't make it any less impressive. It is spectacularly time consuming to make environment art that looks this good in gzdoom.

Baked lighting like pic related goes a long way.

>>3611279
How about the lens flare?

>>3611284
I don't know if the newest gzdoom versions have native support for them, but the old way is to print additive blending flare graphics as hudmessages, or to let reshade/sweetfx or another such injector handle it.

>>3611232
Make a level in your hometown of Poo, India.

>>3611029
Guncaster
HXRTC
Project Brutality
JohnnyDoom

>>3610868
>title

I C wot u did thear

>>3611290
wat wad

>>3611337
No Rest For The Living

Does Odyssey 2001 (don't remember exact name) deserve it's cacoaward? I played a couple of maps from one of the guys who did it (like pe1_toxic - again not exact name) and really liked them.

>>3611343
I mean the mod ffs

>>3611346
Looks like Brutal Doom?

>>3611346
JohnnyDoom

>>3611253
Nope! Runs fine and dandy in the alpha builds of Zandronum 3.

>>3611343
Thank, not the guy who asked, but I'm up for more mapsets like this one.

>>3611384
It was the last official mapset for Doom 2. Came with the Xbox 360 version, then the Doom 3 BFG Edition on PC where it got ripped.

>>3611430
Actually it got ripped when it was released on XBLA. There was some godawfully convoluted method to ripping it from the Xbox and caused a stir with the community moralfags.

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Anyone here know basic math?
I want to display the player's velocity in km/h as efficiently as possible.

abs(velx)+abs(vely)+abs(velz) should be it for Map Unit/Tic if I'm not mistaken. Assume a map unit-to-km ratio of X or whatever since it can vary with the wad in question.

>>3611245
thnx duder.

>>3611343
Got a download link for the mapset?
I used to have it but i can't find it

>>3611469
>abs(velx)+abs(vely)+abs(velz) should be it for Map Unit/Tic if I'm not mistaken.
you are extremely mistaken. look up the pythagorean theorem, dumbass.

>>3611538
But in doom you actually go faster when running diagonally. I thought doing it properly would result in incorrect data.

Is too much detail a bad thing?

>>3611548
It Depends (TM)

>>3611235
Trained composer here - can I make some MIDIs for you?

I was thinking about something like the Falcon 4.0 theme music, or perhaps Mig-29 fulcrum:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38Gz8EZvnU8

That kind of 90s synth and guitar feel, but if you have something else in mind I can emulate it. Up to you, I can imagine you might want to use the actual Terra Nova soundtrack.

The Terra Nova title music is great, I can do that style easy

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how do you kill these guys again?

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>>3611560
Shoot at it until it dies

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>>3611560

>>3611560
Which guy? The little skull man, or the techno devil?

Did anyone ever get the quake mission packs functioning properly on pc? I've tried a lot of shit already and just can't get them to work

>>3611574
I did but I don't remember how

>>3611574
I think if you're playing on Steam, I think you just run it.
I know I played it earlier this year.
I had to use darkplaces i think to have music
The mission pack would be in a folder named Id1 and hypnotic

>>3611578
remember right now ok?

>>3611580
I'm a pirate

>>3611574
>drop them in quakespasm folder
>quakespasm -game (expansion pack name)

>>3611580
They're the "hipnotic" and "rogue" folders

>>3611584
shit my bad

but I think the Id1 folder is important. i remember you have to do something about the music to get it working in the expansion


My quake folder is a fucking mess

>>3611581
I did this iirc >>3611584

Is it against any rules to take parts of the Shareware maps, modify them, and incorporate them into an entirely new level?

>>3611593
yes.

>>3611542
just because you can straferun faster than normal running doesn't mean you magically get to ignore actual math when trying to calculate a geometric value

>>3611594
What if I remake a part of the Shareware maps while looking directly at its layout?

>>3611597
next time i want to know something i just wont ask then

>>3611593
Regardless about rules, why would you do that?

>doom
>wolfenstein
>duke nukem
>heretic
>hexen
>shadow warrior
>blood
>powerslave
Anything else in this style worth playing?
>inb4 chex quest
I can't bring myself to play it, it looks so retarded

>>3611668
its gameplay is very easy and the levels are really simple but its worth a couple hour playthrough for a laugh

>>3611254
Why are you playing with the crosshair on?

>>3611254
woah what even is this?

>>3611668
playthrough chexquest with samsara

>>3611676
Total Chaos

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>>3611029
You can try my gameplay mod if you wish. It's rather non-standard.
>http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=08906478354860062638
[download link]
>http://pastebin.com/6HVieKZa
[manual]

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>>3611673

>>3611663
Familiarity. They come in expecting it to be similar to the original, but quickly find it's totally different. The room I want to modify is the hub from E1M9: Military Base.

>>3611673
Because I like it. Same reason the devs for Penumbra added a little white dot crosshair.

>>3611681

Shiiiit, this is cool.

>>3611692
Thanks. It was an entry to the 64k contest on the zdoom forums. Rushed it out in a few nights so a ton of things are broken.

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>>3611560
Summen

>>3611668
Outlaws
Terminator: Future Shock
System Shock 1 + 2

>>3611668
Star Wars: Dark Forces.

>continue crashing scythe 2 with no survivors with woc
>somehow bugged my metamorphosis and it doesn't work anymore even after map switches
fuck

>>3611668
Kingpin: Life of Crime
A quake 2 engine shooter with a cool setting, surpisingly good AI and very nice level design. Marred by bad gunplay, plot and excessive repetitiveness. What they had planned for it was so much more than what they were forced to settle for.

I played through Doom 1 for the first time recently. Why did they make the Plasma Gun so good? It seems a bit too strong, although I didn't play on the hardest difficulty (please don't bully).

>>3611730
nightmare is a meme difficulty anyway

>>3611730
It has lower damage per second than the rocket launcher (and no area damage at that), and lower damage-per-cell than the BFG with which it shares ammo. It's only the ultimate weapon in a few situations (E4 has relatively many encounters where it's good).

>>3611730
It's not the strongest weapon, but it has no real downsides either.

Compared to the Rocket Launcher
>Bit less DPS but no self damage
Compared to BFG
>Not nearly as much damage potential per cell but risk of overkill is nonexistant
Compared to Chaingun
>Higher rate of fire + damage, more chances to cause flinching

If you don't know what weapon to have out for the challenges ahead and you have it on you the Plasma Rifle is a safe bet.

>>3611739
I didn't really use the rocket launcher much other than Barons and Cyber/Spiderdemons. I just hurt myself with splash and most areas were so cramped it was easier to just use the plasma instead of running to reposition for rockets. I didn't want to use the BFG so I didn't.
It was more fun to use the RL in Quake 1 which I played first, so I was a bit sad. I understand it's a different game though.

>>3611254
Dude fuck this shit. I can't handle nope type games.

I got like 3 mins in and quit, when a figure in the distance kinda just walked through a wall

>>3611758
> I didn't want to use the BFG so I didn't.
It can kill the final boss in a single shot if you're point blank and lucky. It's immensely powerful and doesn't have a chance of collateral damage.

The rocket launcher doesn't really shine much in vanilla doom 1 I agree, but it's vital in doom 2 and custom maps to bring archviles down fast (when just using the bfg on them straight away is impractical or impossible) and against hordes of high-threat monsters like revenants.

In such maps, you'll find the plasma rifle to be fairly lacking.

>>3611681
I'm playing this on my Windows 98 gaming PC at 640x400 and it's the coolest shit I've played since SS1 itself. Is ammo completely uncapped like in SS1, or are the caps just higher than normal?

black warrior looks like an interesting nip mod but it's taking quite a while to download

what am i in for?

What's the best resource for doom mods?

>>3611787
I Don't Know What The Fuck Just Happened But It Was Cool: The Mod

>>3611792

Ah yes, a IDKWTFJHBIWC

>>3611787
Decorate and ACS wizardry and also some pretty good if not a bit janky gameplay.

Some tips for when you play:
Cap your FPS when playing so your character's animation plays smoothly
Press use over corpses to get cash
Double tap a direction to do wicked sick flips
Shotgun is god
EMP upgrade for grenades is ridiculously helpful for the new Cyberdemon replacements
Headshots exist in the game

Is there a more Doom band than morbid angel?

>>3611780
>It can kill the final boss in a single shot if you're point blank and lucky. It's immensely powerful and doesn't have a chance of collateral damage.
Yeah I know it's good, but it just felt cheap to use it.

I'm gonna play Doom 2 soon, so looking forward to that.

>>3611783
Ammo caps should be at the standard doom level. Weapons are generally more accurate however (the pistol mistakenly doesn't use any though), and I probaly fucked up some of the damage calculations so weapons are more powerful than they should be though.

Glad you enjoy it! Myself, I mostly just see all the flaws in the scripting (the interactive displays where written in a single sleep-deprived night before the contest deadline ;_;) and the TEXTURES sprites are the only thing I'm even somewhat happy with. Stay tuned for the mech game I'm posting webms of, since it's a sucessor in code and spirit the same way the original Terra Nova was to System Shock.

>>3611808
>I'm gonna play Doom 2 soon, so looking forward to that.
Know that the level design isn't as good as the first game though. The new gun and monsters are great though, and really shine in Final Doom and various community-made mapsets.

I would try BTSX E1 after doom 2, it being a gorgeous community map pack that actually runs properly in the original doom 2 executable and "could have" been made in that era.

>>3611825
fuck pain memelemental, fuck memevile

>>3611254
How did they manage to make it look so good despite Doom being terrible at rendering models?

>>3611829
Archviles are really fun to fight if the map maker does them right

Elementals are annoying if the map has them in a position where they can infight and spawn a shit ton of lost souls. I dont find them very fun to fight regularly either. It's a good thing you can just hug them and kill them that way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzewYyUY0Ks

>>3611559
Sorry, I missed this post.

That sounds absolutely amazing and I'd be honored to have your music in the project. I'd only like to warn you that I have a history of taking my sweet time to complete projects however.

>That kind of 90s synth and guitar feel, but if you have something else in mind I can emulate it.
Nah, that kind of sound is perfect and the Mig-29 track you posted is great. Do you like Front Line Assembly? I think that would be a good source of inspiration.

>>3611836
They baked ambient occlusion into the model texture. Like the Q4 stream protector pic I posted earler in the thread, where I applied the specular, AO and normal maps over the diffuse map in photoshop using a particular order and set of blend modes in photoshop. And a brightmap applied in-engine.

Which source port should I play if I want to play vanilla with higher screen resolutions?

>>3611849
PrBoom+

>>3611849

If 640x480 is enough for you, there's Crispy Doom.

>>3611858
Samsara Chex Quest was great fun, especially when playing as Duke.

>>3611758
>using rockets on cybers/spiderdemons

They are immune to splash damage, though. They only receive direct damage, making it less cost effective than the plasma or ssg

>>3611854
1080p else my eyes hurt. Sorry. ;_;

>>3611851
Thanks, Anon. Accepting other suggestions otherwise I'll go with this!

Do I just drag and drop the mod files on the gzdoom exe?

next stop greentown.

>>3611803
Pantera

>>3611864
End of the line!

>>3611864
>>3611870
FUCKING CABAL
GET OFF MY TRAIN
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>3611854
I hate that the crispy doom maintainer refuses to make certain cosmetic shit optional, though. I personally really hate the brightness fade that the menu does. And the recent version has all sound effects play completely, which takes away the "vanilla" feeling to me.

>>3611872
show yourself, buddy

>>3611865
as far as getting their songs used in the game, but I mean morbid angel nails the aesthetic of doom completely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1-IezRLC2g

>>3611873
you can toggle the sound cutoff in the current nightly build, dunno bout the other stuff.

>>3611881
I only know trey azagthoth played quake a lot

>>3611881
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYY5WgEMT-I
Unrelated, but this is the only track I've ever come across where I immediately thought of Doom.

>>3611803
>Is there a more Doom band than morbid angel?
I don't know if more, but this is pretty Doom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGQ15_74KBA

>>3611897
osdm is basically doom - the genre

>>3611668
Redneck Rampage!

>>3611841
Nice, I already started a track, but I'll just flick them to you as I go. I'm not worried about how long it takes, I just like writing tracks. I'll work in MIDI if thats alright, its fun to write within those limitations.

email me - my address is attached

>>3611929
E-mail field doesn't exist anymore, friend.

>>3611929
>>3611841
Oh yeah you can't attach emails any more...

hit me at this temp mail:
[email protected]

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So apparently my Vita is hackable, and I can get prBoom running on it.

Guess it's time to dust this thing off and have some fun with it.

>>3611965
is it comfortable to play FPS games on that?

>>3611969
had to configure the buttons to my liking but it came with the analogs already set properly which felt fine.

Also I got a free copy of Borderlands 2 with it when i bought and while the performance was horrible it was pretty comfortable to handle.

>>3611563
>>3611560
I mean, it's not wrong... Kill it until it dies from it

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>>3611969
>analog sticks
the question isn't whether it plays well or not, but whether if it is on par, or worse THAN Android gaming.

>>3611996
it'd probably be fine for simple wads like doom 1 and 2 but i cant imagine playing ancient aliens or speed of doom on it

>>3611996
>>3612001

It's actually harder than I thought it would be.
In BTSXe1 map01 I keep getting my ass kicked by the SSG secret on UV.
I did find out that the dpad is much better for movement and dodging than the analog stick though.

>>3612018
The only comfortably-controlled console FPS I know is Metroid Prime 1-3, and those had a lock on system.

>>3611560
Load up Russian Overkill and put about 5 falcon punches into it while tanking all the rockets it fires at you with your 11515 shields and 3151978 health.

>>3612027
you could also use murica uzis in trailblazer.
>>3611065

>>3611872
GEROSHAY CRUO!

>>3612027
Quad Quadshotguns also work pretty well.
>>3612038
CRUDOX CRUO

>>3612093
>all those rockets hitting the floor
that weapon is too good for you anon

>>3612093
Is that DRLA?

>>3612098
It's like you never played Quake DM - you don't aim at the enemy you aim at their feet.

>>3612108
Accessories to Murder I think, but I didn't post the thing and i haven't played it in a long time.

>>3612093
>>3612098
And he's also running staring at the ground.

>>3612109
But he's not playing Quake DM.

>>3612109
not with that rocket launcher you don't, it hits way harder on direct impacts

everyone complains about that weapon being shitty when it actually has insane ammo efficiency and dps so long as you aim it right. i'd guess they all try to use it like in that webm, where its low and small splash damage accomplishes very little.

>>3612114
>>3612116
guys, guys, banter, I know AtM isn't Q1.

>>3612116
I'll use it that way from now on then. I'm so used to going for splash damage instead of potentially missing a rocket and wasting it. Too much TF2 I guess.

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Can anyone explain to me what is so special about JohnnyDoom that it gets special treatment both here and on the ZDoom forum?

I gave it a try, and at a glance its only difference from BD is the grande?

>>3612164
Shit, I meant "grenade", not "grande".

>>3612164
>>3612171
It's not as overpopular, and the creator, so far as I know, hasn't told anyone to kill themselves and stuff.

*shrug*

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>>3612164
From what I gather Johnny is a guy starting out that seems very receptive to feedback and criticism. His BD fork might have some neat things I guess?

I will not forget about all this ACS, though.

>>3612176
There has to be a more efficient way to do all that, let me guess, this is some spaghetti nightmare shit

>>3612184
Term told me that modders typically have two Compiled ACS at most or something, in contrast to Johnny's early mistake where there's tons of them making the mod go sluggish.

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Xth for pre-dated memes.

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>>3612176
holy shit

Hey, gzdoom keeps starting on my "media" monitor and I can't find an option for switching it to my "gaymen" monitor, and because of their positioning it's really driving me insane.

Didn't do this in the past, I don't want to play at 4k with shit FPS, I wanna play at 1440p with 4089317401293874 fps, c'mon drdteam.

>no but seriously how do

There a sprite/sound rip of this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFxWrAqdp4w

>>3612209
vid_adapter x, where x is the display you want

>>3612164
>that it gets special treatment

??????

>and at a glance its only difference from BD is the grenade?

????????????????????

I'm not sure which is more wrong

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>>3612176
I too was wondering why it ran like ass with a 6700k and 1080gtx backing up a game engine from 1993...

>>3612230
>1993

Thing is GZDoom is so much more advanced and has gotten to the point where it has pissed off people who are stuck with the older OpenGL 2 versions because newer ones run like shit on their machine

>>3611803
>>3611881
>>3611889

trey actually made a Doom map...and, quite frankly, it is pretty bad.

I have no ammo how do I kill a Cyberdemon?

>>3612190
I genuinely thought that was a bane reference.

>>3612319


and because graf didnt mrmed his ass to make it vulkan compatible yet

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What is your opinion on the new version of Zion?

>>3612356
unplayably bad, just slapping the Doom 4 3d models on the weapons looks horrendous and I can't handle it, D4D did it way better.

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>>3612361
Am I the only one here who doesn't like D4D or Zion at all?

>>3612378
i wouldn't say i don't like them, but i am entirely indifferent to the doom 4 weapons in doom trend lately

>>3612378
>Am I the only
No, at the moment that you even think about typing this, just know that the answer is no.

>>3612383
I have to wonder if people are aware of how oblivious and dumb they sound when they say this

like, what's rhetorics, who needs those anyways

>>3612383
>people who take "Am I the only one..." at literal face value
It's called a fucking rhetorical question you absolute sperg, of course he doesn't think he's alone in thinking that.

>>3612419
Then what's the point of asking? It's not like saying ''am I really that ugly?'' and expecting others to cheer you up.

>>3612421
Because he wants to hear other people's opinions on it?

>>3612378
I find D4D overrated. I don't like how most weapons don't feel like their original counterparts in some ways.

>>3612441
Once they brought in dual super shotguns you should have realized they weren't going to try and emulate Doom 4 100%

The Hell Knight and Baron of Hell sprites are absolute shit

>>3610898
I smell a 10th grader

>>3612564

I smell a seat, do you mind taking it?

I'm Chris Hansen.

>>3612562
baron is fine imo because it emulates D4 baron, knight on the other hand is shit because it looks like its from a completely different game

>>3611937
Sent you an email.

>>3612356
Boring compared to D4D.
Also, try shooting a rocket at a wall, then tell me if you still want to play it. Sloppy.

>>3612612
You can toggle a setting to play with the vanilla monsters, so I don't see how that's a problem. Hell, I play with BD's Monsters Only because I prefer that type of pace.

I seem to have accidentally disabled messages in gzdoom, the ones like "you picked up an <item>" in top left

What command can I use to reenable them?

>>3612565
>tfw theres a chris hansen in the doom community

>>3612678
Can't you do it in options?

>>3612327

Punch it until it dies.

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Tried replacing the awful upscaled megatexture to some downscaled grass. Things are starting to look pretty sweet. I really need to generate the level geometry from an actual height map though.

Is it normal to drop frames when playing JohnnyDoom? I may not have the beastliest rig ever, but I've never had framedrops this bad before with doom.

>all these asston-of-weapons mods
>and their convoluted configurations
>on the flip side there's these "arsenal" mods; same asston-of-weapons, but globally limits the amount of guns you can carry
Why can't they just implement the limit per weapon slot (i.e. have 10+ shotgun variants, but slot 3 can only carry 2 or 3 and you have to drop that old shotty to pick up the shiny new one)

>>3612748
this is pretty much how it should be in fps games, crysis did it right because you had weapon categories and you could hold only two pieces per category.

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damn, that wasn't even hard.

>>3611523
it's in the BFG version of doom 3
nerve.wad

>>3612757
So how does stuff like this work? Is it just an extremely high amount of individual blocks, or a true slope?

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>>3612775
They're true vertex slopes. What I did was take a grayscale heightmap image and apply it to a plane divided into a shitload of triangles in blender with the Displace modifier. Then I simply exported it as .obj and used gzdoom builders .obj-to-geometry import function.

This is the image used for that pic.

>>3611084
Moon Man was an old YTMND fad. It's actually really old.

>>3611863
uh I'm not sure, I only play doom wads, never really tried any of these crazy looking mods in this thread though that look like almost an entirely different game

>>3611584
When I try to run quakespasm this shit pops up - "couldn't load gfx.wad" what do I do?

>>3612782
but the ytmnd thing was something completely different to its ''resurgence''.

Why does the OP say WolfenDoom releases today when the creators have been saying Sunday?

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Worth reading/listening to?

>>3612870
Yes, it's a good read.

>>3612870
>narrated by Wil Wheaton

why tho

>>3612562
>>3612612
>person gets called up to work on thing based on other more popular thing
>'i thought popular thing sucked so I'm making my own stuff from the ground up to '''enhance''' the experience'
>it's shit
like pottery.

>>3612678
press F8

>>3612892
While a huge cuck in person, his adult voice is by no means bad to listen to.

>>3612787
no worries, fixed it

doot

>>3611584
I still can't get the expansions to work, when I launch quakespasm it just takes me to standard quake, do I have to run them by console or what?

>>3612943
You need to run them via prompt commands. Either run a command prompt in the Quakespasm window and go quakespasm -game hipnotic/rogue (hold shift and right click to get a "make command prompt window" option.

Or you can make a shortcut and add the commands after a space in the target path.

Downloaded zdoom and started playeg Hexen. Amazing how good and playable it still is.

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>>3612965
Come back when you've finished the first hub.

>>3612968
I'm about halfway through that I think, I opened 5 of the 7 doors so far.

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Why did they have to add this guy? The game was perfect before this shit

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>>3612975
Literally the reason why Episode 4 is guttertrash.
>Let's make an enemy that bounces at you very fast and constantly and when it dies it basically does explosive splash damage to you if you're near it

Guy who designed it needs to be punched in the taint.

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>tfw memed into playing Wolf TNO
that was distilled carcinogenic extract in its purest form mixed in with a couple of black mamba venom drops in a martini glass for good measure. what a crock of fucking shit.

does RTCW have mods? if not, please recommend me a couple of doom mappacks to wash this shit aftertaste with. I'm craving some techbase themed maps with high difficulty levels ala Mutiny.

>>3612983
The hell's bad about it?

>>3612983
>playing modern shooters

>>3612986
Like D44m?

>>3612975
yeah and it looks so bland

>>3612984
you'd do a much better job at asking me what things did I like. had you done that, I would've replied with one being something that appears just once in the game and never again afterwards, and another ridiculously broken thing which renders combat nil.

>>3612989
both are dogshit but this is by far the worst attempt at a modern day recreation of a classic shooter I've seen as of this timeline.

>>3612989
lol retard

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>>3612994
>both are dogshit

>>3612994
but that's not shadow warrior

>>3612949
Ty baby, got it working

>>3612986
I enjoy the Far Cry games.

>>3613006
Hipnotic is fun. Rouge is kinda shit.

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Lovecraftian quake > Biomechanical quake

>>3612984
Everything about it is garbage.
>horrible boring shit guns
>giant damage sponge mech suit enemies everywhere
>like the core gameplay is really shitty with the shitty boring guns and shit enemy design
>hurr so gritty color pallette
>ditching the corny exploitation B-movie vibe with mechsuit Hitlers, cultists, ancient german death knights, etc from the previous Wolfenstein games for a constant barrage of "dude nazis are evil lmao, dude look at all this grimdark shit lmao, dude jews are geniouses and the best lmao"

>>3613018
Oh, so it's just another shitposting /pol/tard with ''arguments'' consisting ''it's shit because I say so''.

As expected, just hide the post and move on.

>>3612983
>that was distilled carcinogenic extract in its purest form mixed in with a couple of black mamba venom drops in a martini glass for good measure. what a crock of fucking shit.

You've been watching too much AVGN bro

>>3613021
>As expected, just hide the post and move on.
>responds to Special Needs Jones anyways

Follow your own advice.

>>3613018
it annoys me that you didn't mention the combat being centered on a series of boxes you crouch about in the efforts of taking out a guy so that other guys don't spawn in.

the stealth in that game is hilariously fucking retarded, I'm pretty sure it got shattered for that one aspect alone.

>>3613027
What does that matter? It's a single reply and it's pointing out that it's just a shitposter.

>>3613013
uhh one more thing, how do I get back to playing the standard quake? and also the command window says it doesn't recognise my command window but changed the game to mission pack 1, and I've tried all the commands I could with rogue but it didn't change it
so just to clarify, what I do is, I start up quakespasm, I enter the console and write "quakespasm -game rogue" ?

>>3613038
let's entirely overlook the fact that he shat on your favorite thing and you're about to have an autistic breakdown because of it

I'd want the meanie gone, too

>>3613046
>how dare you notice that he's just shitposting since he just said everything is shit without explaining why and complained about jews
I sure got told.

>>3613021
>/pol/ bogeyman
I knew some faggot will try to pull this after I called out the game being completely up it's own ass and super serious, which is a retarded 180 tone change from the rest of the series.

>>3613029
The stealth mechanics weren't even bad compared to how you have to fight a gorillion armored robots with an assault rifle, a shotgun and a laser pointer that has to be recharged at a fuse box after every shot.

>>3613056
>I can't overlook meaningless insults
God forbid I don't and feel like pointing things out, is that so bad? why is that so wrong? That way nobody else has to reply.

>>3612994
How exactly is nuDoom dogshit?

>>3613042
shit nevermind figured it out, I was supposed to run quakespasm-sdl2.exe

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Map is now a piece of real-world poland textured with sand. Also got a cool digital scope thing working (smooth and accurate, unlike the one in doomshock I might add)

How do I fix saving with quakespasm? My saves just don't register, when I go to "load" there's nothing

>>3613173
run in admin mode?

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>>3610868

BLADE OF AGONY: CHAPTER 1 IS NOW RELEASED!

http://boa.realm667.com/index.php/download

>cue cheese

"You are B. J. Blazkowicz, the greatest spy and biggest risk-taker the Allied forces have ever known! Take on the might and fury of the Third Reich as you blast your way to victory! Do battle with the diabolical Adolf Hitler, who is twisting science and the occult in his pathological mission to conquer the world! The fate of all free peoples hangs in the balance - failure is NOT an option. Your standard issue cyanide capsule should be used at your own discretion! Good luck, you'll need it!"

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>playing some mod
>some HUD elements don't fit in 800x600
>change it to wider resolution
>now those elements fit but others look cropped and vanilla HUD looks stretched and ugly
Is there any way to fix these things? What resolution do you guys use.

>>3613089
ey try this disposable, I lost the old one:
[email protected]

I have 2 tracks underway for you

>>3613089
Looking nicer and nicer. How big is the map? Get any of that sector shading kicking?

Wonder if there is a way to smooth blend the sector shading...

Your mod is making me want to work on a mech game in ue4... something like titanfall, but more focused on mechs. Maybe with a power distribution triangle and the ability to eject... ah well. Maybe later.

What's the deal with your runes disapearing in quake? I lost all my runes at some point in episode 3, I don't care that much because I got them all back by console but it's still pretty weird since when you start a level in quake after death it's an autosave that has all your equipment that you brought from the previous level unlike in doom where you start with a pistol

>>3612972
The 2nd hub kinda sucks hard. It's fun in mp tho.

>>3613270
640x480

>>3612986
>Not playing Verdun
suit yourself

>>3613314
literally what

Can someone recommend some weapon wads for Scythe 1 and 2? Preferably something not melee focused that changes monster behavior.

>>3613053
The "laser pointer" instagibs the Uber units once they start becoming common and it's not like it is useful for anything besides such high HP targets

I didn't really like the game either but surprisingly it wasn't because of HP sponges

The biggest annoyance to me was having to pick up each item manually.

Some of the guns were alright but there was no real enjoyable encounter to me until towards the very end of the game. I also didn't like all the pauses in action for the story.
Also the last boss sucked and died so fast

>>3613317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWp-7XH3080
Its not retro, but the subject matter is

>>3613332
>six gorillion world war 2 games aren't enough, let's make another one

>That bullshit lightning rod at the end of one of the scourge of armagon's castle levels
fuck you, I didn't even save the entire level

>>3613053
>which is a retarded 180 tone change from the rest of the series.

Have you played only the original games?
Ever since the franchise went 3D, it's been pretty grim-serious.

It's not a change I like, but it's been that way for a loooooong time.

>>3613335
>World War 2
u wot m8. Its an authentic WW1 game son. Those are rare

>>3613335
>no korean war games

>>3613281
I sent you one using the same service now. Hope I did it right.
>>3613286
>Looking nicer and nicer. How big is the map?
..6 square kilometers. Using a scaled down player character.

>Get any of that sector shading kicking?
Nah, haven't found anything yet. Starting to worry that my best bet is asking some of the programmers in the community if it's something they'd be interested in, since I think a gzdb plugin like that could be useful for many projects.

>Wonder if there is a way to smooth blend the sector shading...
Only way I can think of is hard coding it into a shader somehow. But I think sharp borders will actually look more appropriately retro in any case.

>our mod is making me want to work on a mech game in ue4
Do it!! But try to distinguish your game from all the other mech games out there.

>>3612718
Hmm... Can you run a script that changes areas that were in certain color range in the original megatexture with an appropriate regular texture?

>>3613016
Quake 1 still has biomechanical stuff, though. Ogres have grenade launchers melted onto their arm.

>>3613406
and that's basically it unless you want to count the zombie marines

>>3613423
well i mean, they exist too

grunts and enforcers are still people, just with their brains all fucked-with and the pleasure centers wired up to give 'em hardons when they kill people (unlike zombiemen and shotgunners who're already dead)

>>3613428
>grunts and enforcers are still people
shambler pls go

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>>3613438

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>UUURRRGGH

>>3613441
It's weird, the knights are so out of place in the bestiary

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>this thread right now

>>3613448
no

>>3613449
>responding at all

>>3613445
They're a stopgap between stuff from our world, turned into monsters (Grunts, Enforcers, Rottweilers) and stuff from worlds unimagined and unexplored (Shamblers, Vores, Scrags, etc). You could probably lump the Ogres in one step after them, or maybe before- obviously less humanoid, but with distinctly human technology attached.

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>>3613446
whrrzzzzz

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>mfw using the Wraithverge for the first time

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Found this while browsing. Hunter's a cool character.

>>3613463
huh? What is this from?

>>3613464
looks like hunter from quake 3

Is there anything more satisfying than firing the BFG into a huge crowd of demons? I'm playing through Doom 2 for the first time (Ultra-Violence, I hear its the best difficulty to play it on) and I find myself enjoying the big, open maps the most for the sheer numbers of enemies and the carnage that follows.

How does Final Doom rate? I'll probably play that once I'm done with 2.

>>3613476
Final doom is the same as doom unless you mean the level packs like evilution and plutonia, both of the packs are pretty boring actually

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>>3613463
BIGGER

>>3613451
So shub-niggurath gathered his forces like mental did?

>>3613335
>he doesn't want to shed the blood of saxon men
???????????

Unreal is retro right?

>>3613537
yeah, first one has a really dank atmospheric singleplayer, feels like you're in predator planet

>equinox and beyond reality are still in the doom infopic
puked a little tbqh

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WHAT'RE YOU FUCKING WORKING ON?

Post your sprites, your maps, your codesnippets, post what you've been working on.

>>3613560
word
someone should really go through equinox's levels and add some more ammo and make it actually playable
the effects and new skins are pretty cool

>>3613571
I wish I could make doom content I'm just a player. anything I code is more suited to /agdg/

>>3613576
screw that, how about changing lvls to something less slaughter-y

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>>3613571

Accidently made a daily dose room. (Zombies TC remake)

Favorite weapon?

Nothing beats the shotgun for me, everything about it is satisfying as hell, right down to the pumping animation between shots.

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>tfw no MF DOOM doom wad

>>3613614
SSG in smooth doom with gibs turned on. Gameplay-wise it's exactly like the normal super shotgun, but it's so fucking ridiculously satisfying to use.

>>3613583
thanks doc
what is this btw?

>>3613614

In vanilla? A tie between the normal shotgun and chaingun.

>>3611840
I wonder how a Ultra Greatsword would look in first person...

>>3613579
post it anyway, african

>>3613621

Well, as mentionned in the original message, it's a remake of the old 95 Zombies TC... It was more or less an adaptation of the original Dawn of the Dead (and Day of the Dead in the later levels) movie. I'm adding some new modern features and "upgrading" the levels (Quotes because, to be honest, sometimes I feel I'm hurting the gameplay more than I'm helping, as a whole, I'm not sure I know what I'm doing. But I'm having fun.)

Where do you guys get your mods from?

>>3613630
ZDoom forums, Wadseeker, this place and random conversations.

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How are you supposed to dodge this motherfucker?

>>3613638
Shoot at it before it shoots

>sounds suddenly lagging occasionally in GZDoom
it was working fine a few days ago what might have caused this?

What are some WADs that would go well with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-JHmV5LMLM

>>3613660
monster hunter ltd

does heretic have any good weapons mods? no guncaster doesn't count.

>>3613660
dissolution

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More ice shit for you guys

>>>/wsg/1391054

>>3613665
there are none. most of them feel like a vanilla expansion.

>>3613684
Are you the same guy who was bitching about D4D a few threads ago?