why do russians like 3do so much?

>>3574323
Piracy and M&M/HoMM

>>3574334
that doesn't explain it. every system has piracy

>>3574337
N64 didn't. Guess why it doesn't exist in Russia.

Same with SNES, Mega Drive got way more popular than it because it had cheaper console/pirated cartridges. And that's despite SNES was hyped by the same guy who sold people on famiclones there. Remember, no one in Russia would pay more than ~$5 for a game at the time.

3DO also came at a time when Russian market was wowed by famiclones and opened up to "bit wars". So it was the tits for some impressionable young people. Surprisingly, it caught up. I knew a guy who owned a shitton of licensed games for it. Even Plumbers with Ties.

>>3574351
people wouldn't pay 5$ for a game but they could shell out for an extremely expensive system and a computer with a burner + media?

>>3574337
1) PS1 is one the most famous consoles in Russia. Discs are more prone to piracy because they are cheap as fuck. Almost no one ever heard about Saturn or N64.
2) HoM&M is the most famous strategy game for PC in Russia. People just don't know alternatives.

People in Russia are mostly poor and PS1 and PC discs were much easier to pirate. I know it because i am russian. Literally every second person know what is Heroes of Might & Magic. That's why they like 3DO.

>>3574357
Yep, exactly. They did exactly that. I read that most people hopped on the 3DO wagon in 1995–1997 after the price drop, when FZ-10. Most still call the platform "Panasonic 3DO".

Of course PS won in the end, but 3DO maintained a presence too. Which can't be said about N64 at all, for example.

>>3574323
>>3574337
Actually, I guess she simply played Heroes 3, right? That explains it.

It was one of the first really big PC games which got officially translated and published in Russia. To you, this will probably sound underwhelming, but in the country's piracy-riddled software market of the early 2000s, where most games were localized using auto-translate, and where the official publishers mostly licensed cheap crap, it meant quite a lot. This is also the big reason for Russians' familiarity with Fallout 2, for example—I heard it actually got a great translation. From pirates.

But anyway, PC was WAY bigger in Russia in early 2000s than it was in the West. Again, due to unpunished rampant piracy. So you could tell that when a good PC game came out, everyone knew about it. Heroes 3 came out at the right time. Guess why so many Russians play Global Offensive. Counter-Strike was not a game here, it was a national sport.

>>3574381
Interesting post.
Always wanted to learn a little more about gaming in Russia.
Had no idea HoM&M was so big there.

>>3574381
>Actually, I guess she simply played Heroes 3, right? That explains it.
army men

>>3574386
Basically, it was a mess. Very similar to other poor countries, like in South America. Up until late 2000s piracy was what drove the vidya market entirely in the country. You had pirated CDs sold at every corner.

You've probably heard about that Russian e-celeb who talked about Dendy. In a nutshell, in the early '90s, they marketed famiclones on Russia's biggest TV channel. Good start.

Along came Mega Drive, which remained a staple for poor families up until late 2000s or so—hence huge Mortal Kombat popularity in the country. But with CD printing, PC took a huge lead, for obvious reasons. PS was big too though, but more niche. Since then Russian market was like 90% PC, 10% everything else.

So when in the West the industry was slowly stopping to give a fuck about PC and switching to consoles (because of piracy among other reasons), Russia was doing the polar opposite. 2000s were the boom of PC gaming in Russia. Shit like Starcraft and Counter-Strike was what everyone played. Consoles almost no one bothered with anymore, PS2 was way too bothersome for pirates. No Russian in games too.

I've already said why Heroes got huge, but there was one more reason. It ran well on shit PCs.

>>3574397
Hm, that's weird. The series is not really known here at all. 3DO brand was sure recognizable, but not as much as to sell any game.

>>3574351
>N64 didn't.
Mr Backup and Game Doctor would like a word.

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>>3574351
whatevs

>>3574351
>Even Plumbers with Ties.
Ruskies confirmed for shit taste then.

>>3574449
>Ruskies confirmed for shit taste then.
No, Ruskies confirmed for being into softcore American porn.

>>3574438
>>3574441
Too complicated for commies with no internets.

>>3574449
I assume he got it late in 2000s from eBay or some other place though.

>>3574386
>Always wanted to learn a little more about gaming in Russia.
Russia got two Sakura Wars games officially localized for some reason only Sega knows.

>>3574464
I'm pretty sure commies with little else other than a 16k dialup external modem and freezing temperatures got pretty good with computers and electronics.

>>3574513
This tidbit still makes me laugh every time.

>>3574357

Home CD Burners weren't in existence even in America when the 3D0 had its day.

People bought bootleg CDs at flea markets, Chinatown, anywhere on the street in NY.

I have no idea where Russia got their bootleg copies. Maybe they imported Hong Kong Silvers?

So was 3D0 actually a regular thing in Russia competing with the other consoles or was it just slightly more popular than other regions and people are being dramatic about videogame history?

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3DO thread? I've got a shoebox of 3DO games I've preserved from my childhood but I don't know if anybody cares enough to want to see more. Even today I can't tell if they're bootleg or not because I've never actually seen what a genuine 3DO press looks like.

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>>3575009

>>3574323
I really don't know anything about 3DO but I think it's easy to forget in the internet age that marketing was often very localized.

I recently moved from near NYC to near Denver and Craigslist is way different out here. There are far more Sega consoles, especially Game Gears, than I saw on the east coast. It seems like Sega marketed much harder over hear than where I grew up, at least for the handhelds. I thought Game Gears were quite rare as I only ever saw one growing up.

>>3574652
aren't there even projects to translate the Russian PC games to English because it's easier than doing the Japanese Saturn originals?

>>3575009
Was T&E Soft the king of cheap contract devs back in the day? I have a couple of their virtual boy games (Red Alarm is top-tier gaming btw).

>>3575071
There is one, I know one of the hackers doing it, he's skilled but slow.

>>3574351
>trying this hard to pretend you're not underage
>failing this epicly at pretending you're not underage
tfw I had N64 and SNES pirate stuff before you were born

>>3574464
>continuing your epic rampage of fail
Many shops sold GD floppies. If your local shop didn't have V64 CDs you could easily mail order them

>>3574652
Russia has weebs too.

You want to fling shit like a nigger or actually argue?

I don't know what you're talking about. SNES was more or less known because of Suponev's TV show (heck, they broadcast a Killer Instinct tournament on TV once), but didn't hold the candle to MD.

Few people knew about N64 except for those who were reading console vidya mags like Great Dragon/Gameland. Yeah, I guess some shops could sell games for N64. But it doesn't change the fact that the console was dwarfed by PS which was sold at every corner. I don't know what you're arguing about.

> easily mail order them
Oh yeah, or you could just easily call your relatives in Germany and ask them for some games. Totally trivial task, right.

>>3575495
I'm not arguing about anything sport. I'm pointing out you're full of shit. If you want to try to pretend you were talking about the PS you'd better delete the post I replied to that said nothing about it first dingus.

If you're too underage to know what mail order was why the fuck are you even trying to "argue" about it?

>>3575540
I don't get it, are you even from Russia or not

>>3575019
What is the second game?
Looks like turn-based strategy.

>>3575752
Is it so hard to look up 戦闘国家?

>>3575540
>If you're too underage to know what mail order was
Mail ordering things in Russia in 90s wasn't an easy task.
I can confirm that N64 wasn't represented in Russia at all, and in 1999-2001 (when Mega Drive was still relevant here) I only had one friend with SNES. He had two games because cartridge was worth 1/3 of his father's salary.

Im always amazed when people even bother to sell anything to the russian market at all

Dendy FTW ))

>>3575871
Dude, you need to tell that to Ubisoft. These baguette fuckers STILL tailor every new Heroes game to slav auditory.

>>3574323
You probably believe in that because other communities are less noticeable, and the emulation development has been kept alive by Russians.

It is very plausible that useless consoles were dumped to Russia and other places after 1996, or were sought after by pirates, but I haven't heard anything concrete about these decisions.

>>3574357
Young man, burning/printing CDs was not the users' problem. You went to the market and got the disks, self-published cheat books and walk-troughs, and — whoa — original foreign game packages (mostly used ones, obviously).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1G24QOYHPY

>>3575019
I have the same Japanese Street Fighter CD. These seem to be value releases (sans big ass cardboard case).

>>3574323
Oh wow sarges heroes was my favorite

>>3574424
I played army men on dreamcast and gamecube

>>3574386
Low system specs and local multiplayer (supposedly online play can be rather expensive and/or unreliable in Russia), along with a solid base game, makes sure the game is still popular there today.

I mean, me and my bro still break it out for Christmas every year (like a boardgame) and have a great time, so I don't see why the Russians wouldn't.

>>3574458
It's *barely* softcore porn even.
It's just fucking weird.

>>3574323
better than a dendy i guess

>>3574513
I'm curious, does Russia have any sort of otaku subculture? What weebshit do Russians like?

>>3576778
In financially relevant form? Not in 1996, definitely, although it was a year Sailor Moon started airing, generating a first wave of “moon kiddies”, as they were called in a small circle of 90s anime fans. The scene has been pretty active since then, with cons and stuff.

That said, the translated games were released in 2006, at the dawn of second anime boom (we had more than one licensed anime distributor, and more than two manga distributors!). Most likely, the idea came from some aspiring japanophile in publisher's ranks.

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>>3574513
I think this needs some clarification. It's not that Sega did it, rather a Russian distributor got the rights to some Sega PC catalogue games and translated it.

The distributor in question, Akella, had published and localized a shitton of 2nd grade foreign games in Russia back in the 2000s. While bigger Russian companies published bigger games from Ubisoft, Valve, Blizzard, Activision, etc., Akella usually did the rest. Kinda seemed like they went quantity over quality way when they chose which games to localize. I kind of thought they'd go down, but looks like they still exist.

They weren't really ashamed of publishing ports from PS2 and DC too, as I said the bar for quality/graphics was set pretty low for them. I mean, after all, we're talking about jewel box games in the range of $3–10 max.

And as >>3576927 said, mid-2000s was the time of a big anime boom in Russia. It's quite possible Akella had some weebs in its staff, and so they decided to localize the game.

As for the quality of the translation, I haven't played the game, so I can't say much about it. From the screenshots, it looks alright more or less. Akella usually did a good enough job to make games enjoyable, but it's not like they were literary geniuses or anything. Plus, I doubt they had good Japanese translators, as 99,9% of stuff they did was translated from English.

In any case, most Russian anime translations sounded extremely awkward to me, so if they hired someone from animu distribution to do the job, I don't really expect much from it, more like decent fansub level to get the gist of what's happening, but with poorly translated personalities/characters.

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>>3576778
Yes it does. It's mostly cancer.

The internet boom of anime in Russia happened at the same time as everywhere else, mostly. But, you should also keep in mind that in Russia the copyright law is very weak and internet speeds are very high.

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>>3576778
You've reminded me. The anime autism reached its possible maximum when in Donetsk, Russia a couple held a Naruto-styled wedding (in a Russian registry office analog, before officials). It's as retarded as it sounds https://youtu.be/7IOKNaQ3Nuc [Embed] .

So, the only good thing about Russian weebs is that occasionally they have hot cosplayers. Otherwise, keep away.

Oh yeah, I also remember back in the day two teens in the country commit sudoku because of FFVIII I think

My grade school teacher warned me that anime had 25th frame effect to make it brighter, but it made kids violent

>>3574323
does that mean I'm a russian?

>>3577591
>weebs
How can they possibly be weebs? It's a North American meme and you have to betray your country's entertainment industry in favor of the Japanese one to be a weeb, but Russia barely has any media targeted at young adults and even less on teenagers, so what do they betray, HBO series about cuckolding? They are just dorks, not any different from Russians wearing Halo cosplay or watching autistic nerd shit like Dark Knight or Batman vs Superman.

>>3577594
>My grade school teacher warned me that anime had 25th frame effect to make it brighter, but it made kids violent
Sounds like your grade school teacher wasn't too smart then.

>>3577746
>betray your country's entertainment industry in favor of the Japanese one
What the fuck kind of thinking is that? Hollywood doesn't own the American people.

>>3578057
>Hollywood doesn't own the American people.

>>3578269
Given how Americans spend way more money on games than on movies, I'd say they don't.

What was the '90s Russian childhood like?

>>3579924
A lot of Darkwing Duck.

>>3579924
> pirated games and console clones everywhere
> pirated videotapes all voiced b the same guy with the worst voice ever https://youtu.be/F9ydAdjF14g
> Dendy is often played on shit Soviet TVs with grayscale image, but no one cares
> everyone is a fan of Mortal Kombat
> American TV show reruns plus Sailor Moon and old animu

>>3580372
Sounds a little rad. I'm sure there were bad things too, but the good things sound comfy.