Castlevania Thread

A different team worked on the MD version. During fourth and fifth gen, Konami had the Castlevania IP spread around among various teams. IIRC, Rondo of Blood on PC Engine and the Akumajo Dracula remake on X68000 were developed at the same time.

>>3498928
Yeah, turns out it's the same team that worked on Rocket Knight and Contra Hard Corps.

>>3499262

According to mobygames, only one of the programmers worked on both games.

Nakazato (director, designer and writer of Hard Corps) only worked on SOTN, Dracula X Chronicles and The Adventure (GB) as far as Castlevania goes.

As for Bloodlines' level design, I don't know... the first level is good, because it copies the first level of Castlevania 1, but the rest of the levels have a lot of inconsistent design.

>>3499278
Look at the other staff members, a lot of them worked together on the other Konami Mega Drive games but not earlier Castlevania installments.

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>you can softlock the game by using a subweapon's special when Talos is punching
Good job, Konami programmers.

>>3498921
>Super Castlevania IV's amazing level design
I know you are baiting but this isn't even funny.

>>3501330
How is it bait? IV has some of the best stages in the series. Its bosses, music and gameplay leave much to be desired, though.

>>3501846
Dude, fuck Chronicles and stupid bullshit. The level design in that remake is obnoxious as fuck.

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>>3501846

Nitpicking is fun!

IV and X68K both have much superior level design to Bloodlines.

>>3501336

The gameplay is bad meme is absurd, Castlevania IV's controls are amazing. Different to Castlevania 1? Sure, but so are pretty much every other Castlevania game except for CV2 and CV3 playing with Trevor.
The music is also amazing, in fact every japanese-made Castlevania game has amazing music.
Bosses are hit or miss, but I'd still say they're better than Bloodlines' bosses. Only Bloodlines bosses I like are Moss (really cool boss fight) and Gargoyle (just okay), the rest are very dull and disappointing.
Dracula is OK too because it has 3 forms, but his 3rd form is very easy. What was weird is that his 2nd form felt like a better Death fight than Death itself, which felt like a lazy rehash on IV's Death with a silly rerun of old bosses before it.

>>3501869
>complaining about a section where you have to dodge mermen quickly or else you're knocked into water and die

kids these days.. any hint of challenge scares them

>>3501869
>except for CV2 and CV3 playing with Trevor.

And Haunted Castle and MSX Castlevania if you're doing a no-subweapons run.

>>3501875

I didn't even make that pic, I just think it's a good example of nitpicking 2 completely different levels as if it meant something.

>>3501891
Haunted Castle added the constipation walk though.

>>3498921
I find the levels in Bloodlines more playable than in IV. Versailles has some annoying enemy corridors but that's about it for bad stuff.

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>>3501947
>Versailles has some annoying enemy corridors but that's about it for bad stuff.

it has a lot of bad shit with auto-scrollers and gimmicks, more offensive than the 2 short model 7 parts on IV.

Also, Versailles is actually the best levels on Bloodlines, if not the best, other than the part with the mickey mania-style moving staris. The enemy corridors are fun especially because it has a bunch of unique enemies, and has the best boss fight in the game.

>>3501957
>and has the best boss fight in the game.
Gear Steamer is better though.

>>3501967

That one is actually my least favorite. I prefer the generic 1st level boss before the goofy gears guy.

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>>3501869
>his 2nd form felt like a better Death fight than Death

That's actually Drolta, who helped Elizabeth Bathory revive Dracula with her
necromancy magic. She shows up to fight you while Dracula is occupied with
transforming into his second Satan-inspired form, probably to stall you.

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>>3502002

Pretty cool, thanks for the clarification anon.

>>3501978
Yeah, the gear guy is too static and drawn out for my taste. Bloodlines is a fantastic game but its bosses are kind of lacking, I sort of feel like the first boss is the most interesting even if he is easy.

>>3502210
But he's one of the less static bosses. His attack patterns are fairly random. Gargoyle, for example, always does the same thing no matter what, and his fight is only neat because of the graphical effects going on.

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Why does /vr/ hate Super Castlevania IV so much?

>>3502551
It's a boring, easy game that deviated too far from the original style.

>>3502551

/vr/ is not one person, I love it. Don't think it's the easiest, and definitely not boring, and every Castlevania deviated from the "original" in one way or another, they all added new mechanics that changed the CV1 formula.

>>3502642
>they all added new mechanics that changed the CV1 formula.

Yeah, but IV took it too far, while the other 16-bit games were at least balanced around their controls.

>>3502651

I feel like it's a bit of an exaggeration, yeah the multi-directional whip makes some things more trivial, but the same can be said about some elements from Rondo or Bloodlines (being able to jump from stairs, for one).
At any rate, the multi-whip is hardly a reason to hate the game. Can understand if a CV1 purist hate it, but can't understand a Rondo or Bloodlines fan hating on IV, they were all easier and "took it too far" from CV1.

>>3502540

The Gargoyle fight is interesting because it kind of forces you to use the diagonal whipping to beat him quickly. And even if his attack pattern is predetermined you're required to react quickly all the itme. One mistake and you can be taken out of the platform and die.

The clock boss just stands there and lets you whip his weak spot until he telegraphs an attack and gives you enough time to avoid it. He feels more like a mid-boss.

>>3499278
>the first level is good, because it copies the first level of Castlevania 1
The first level only copies like 2-3 screens. Halfway through it's a completely different level.

>>3502693
CV1 wasn't hard.

Fucking pleb

>>3502814
>CV1 wasn't hard
Yes, I'm sure you beat it on the first try without using up continues back then. It's so easy, right? Because it's so intuitive to know where all the items are and which ones are better for each bosses, not to mention knowing boss patterns as well going right in. You're right, it's not a hard game at all! Thank you anon! I feel so illuminated right now.

>>3502814

I wasn't talking about difficulty, I was talking purely about controls and mechanics.

>>3502824
t. scrublord

>>3502853
This kills the thread.

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Your opinion on ZX Castlevania

>>3503552
>Spectral Interlude
>For the ZX Spectrum
>Spectral
>Spectrum
They.. actually incorporated the system's name into the game title. I'm amazed by that.

>>3503552
Isn't it fan made?

>>3501869
I know that picture and its variants are just usual shitposting, but the idea that either of them are really "remakes" is disingenuous.

I like that in Bloodlines, the level designs adapt to each character's unique ability. Compared to Rondo, where Maria was basically just the easy mode.

Bloodlines isn't even a real Castlevania, just a shitty spin-off for Sega. In Japan it's not even called Akumajou Dracula.

>>3504669
>In Japan it's not even called Akumajou Dracula.

lol, weebcuck

>>3504669
Castlevania III doesn't have the full "Akumajou Dracula" title in Japan, guess it's just a shitty spin-off as well then.

>>3504669
Aria of Sorrow and Dissonance aren't Akumajo Dracura titles either, weebcuck

>>3504824
Hey Australia hows it going.

>Implying leaving out the "Castlevania Bros" was going to hide your identity.

Go get eaten by a giant spider or something.

>>3504669
>Ok, so I'll just pretend I'm a Nintendo fan and type some generic shit so you can make me look stupid

>>3504675
>>3504748
>>3504783
>YES, SIR!!!

>>3503552
I played it and loved it, the tongue in cheek dialogues are neat.

>>3504934

>pretend I'm a Nintendo fan

Where did he mention Nintendo? Could be a Sony fan, PC fan, or even just a random shitposter, most likely.

>>3504824
My first Castlevania was Castlevania 1. And I like IV, I don't "suck its dick", but it's definitely not boring. What's the problem anon?

Seriously people, what the fuck? You're all so angry.

>>3505056
Nothing just Australia Kun trying to force his memes.

Just ignore them and they'll usually give up.

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>>3505064
>Australia
Can't you go just one day without trying to force this silly meme? Not everyone that hates Super is your boogeyman from down under.

>>3505072
>tomoko
>image.png
hi aus-kun

>>3505072
>Posts obligatory tomoko image.
Do I even have to bother? You might as well have just wore a sign around your neck.

>>3505072

It doesn't matter if you are the "real" australia-kun or not, your irrational hate for IV puts you in the same position as him, an autistic shitposter angry at a game for being popular and nintendo-exclusive. Grow up.

>one australian shitposting has an entire imageboard paranoid and constantly seeing his hand in every post they dislike

Jesus those aussies really are good

>>3505085

Rather than "paranoid", I'd say people just got fed up with him after forcing his memes for so long.
AK wanted /vr/ to hate IV, but in turn he caused the opposed reaction, anyone who says IV is shit will be called australia-kun.
Kinda like how everyone who says playing 3DS in public will be called quentin, etc.

>>3505072
Your waifu a shit. Just like your posts.

>>3505083
I don't care if it's on a Nintendo platform or is popular, I just think it's a piss poor Castlevania game.

>>3505094

OK; keep it to yourself, nobody cares about your opinions if they are not needed. We were talking about Bloodlines.

Any word back from James Rolfe yet on doing Amigavania for this Halloween?

>>3504145
Yup.

>>3503552
I haven't spent all that much time playing it, but I love that it exists.

Bloodlines? More like Shitlines.

NOT RETRO WARNING:
I thought it was cool though so I figured i'd share it because why not. I found this randomly while searching youtube for Aria of Sorrow videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtdci_Eph2s

Someone recreated the ENTIRE goddamn castle from Aria of Sorrow in Terraria. Now that is some dedication.

>>3505539
On the retro side somebody recreated dracula's castle from SOTN

Though it isn't quite as faithful as the aria of sorrow one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWfG91r-DRs

>>3505539
This isn't twoxcuntrosomes, we don't do "trigger warnings" here, we set them off.

>>3505101
You clearly care about that anon's opinion from how buttflustered you are over it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsYWmV2xYU4

>>3505546
What does that even mean? What are you babbling about, I honestly can't tell.

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>>3505750
This actually isn't half bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXQyB6zn1Mc

Too bad nobody has ever uploaded all the songs in their entirety. I think this is like the only one they uploaded in full.

So what's /vr/ prefer? Pre-SOTN level-based action platformer Castlevania, or post-SOTN Metroidvania Castlevania?

>>3505920

The ones that are actually /vr/, which is why most of the shitposting is about comparing classicvania games, we hardly talk about metroidvanias.

>>3505920
Linear > Playpen

>>3498921
> liking the casualized Castlevania IV

>>3506005

Here we go again.

Then again, OP is a shitty console warrior too, if he wanted to talk about Bloodlines' level design (which is indeed a bit lacking), he could have made a thread about it without comparing it to IV. This is so obviously SNES vs Genesis shitposting all over again.

>>3506017
You can't stop people from having opinions and preferring one game over another, dumbass.

>>3506061

The problem is when people base their preference on the brand and not the games themselves, and go full hyperbolic ("I prefer this game over this other one, therefore this other game is shit, and the game I like is GOAT")

>>3506070
>The problem is when people base their preference on the brand and not the games themselves
Prove it.

>and go full hyperbolic ("I prefer this game over this other one, therefore this other game is shit, and the game I like is GOAT")
Welcome to 4chan.

>>3506078
>Prove it.

Sure.

>>3498921
>Did Konami just not give a fuck when it came to quality control on SEGA platforms?

>>3501846
>top kek, SNESbabby

>Welcome to 4chan.

I'd say the internet in general is like that, but that's not an excuse to act retarded on purpose.

>>3505781
I think he's triggered.

>>3505920
Apples and oranges

>>3506092
OP sort of has a point. Even if you think Bloodlines is good, the other only Sega Castlevania is Saturn SotN, which was a botched port of the original.

>>3498921
Bloodlines is far better than IV
Fucking pleb

>>3506472
"no"

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>>3506480

>>3506472
No, it's not; by any metric or standard, it is not.
You're the tryhard pleb here

>>3506485
Shit taste senpai

>>3506483
IV is best classic. Unique music, great gameplay, and memorable stages.

Your genesis shit can't even compare.

>>3506490
Your opinion is objectively wrong and you should feel bad

>>3506464

I have a hard time believing OP wasn't actually intending for this thread to be yet another sega vs nintendo shitfest.

look at this shit:
>>3506472
>>3506480
>>3506483
>>3506485
>>3506487

>>3506495
Hey man, don't blame OP for the shitty state of /vr/. Console wars are inevitable.

>>3506490
>genesis
What the fuck does the Bible have to do with Castlevania?

>>3506495
It's not about that. It's about that one difficulty faggot who template shitposts whenever it's not Bloodlines or 3

>>3506503
Higher difficulty = better game. Unless you are a casual faggot.

>>3506502
The name Genesis is what Amerifats call the Megadrive.

>>3506502

It's the Belmont clan's favorite book, Australia.

>>3506505
Translation: "If you don't think exactly like I do, you aren't autistic enough to match my wizard power level."

Also, if you're no casual, where are your WRs?

>>3506513
>Also, if you're no casual, where are your WRs?

Wouldn't you like to know

>>3506508
Makes sense I guess, America loves that kike cult.

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>>3506524

yeah right

>>3506505
Finely tuned challenge > excessive difficulty. Excessive difficulty is easy. Finesse and design isn't

>>3506534
>Finely tuned challenge
>Finesse and design
I sure hope you're hot talking about IV, friendo

>>3506536
No, I'm not. It's anything but well tuned, and It's still better than the tedium and shit level design of Bloodlines and 3

>>3506534
If excessive difficulty is so easy, why don't you post your no-miss clear replay.

>tryhards playing the easy-modo 16-bit vanias instead of real bad ass only-for-hardcore players Amigavania

Get a load of these plaibeious

Ignoring the added gameplay features, why was Super Castlevania IV so incredibly ugly? The colors are all washed out, the player and enemies are way too big and their animations don't feel tight enough.

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>>3506574
Finally! This guy gets it.

>>3506583
The colors look vibrant enough, have you tried fucking around with your TV's contrast and such?

I never thought big sprites can be a bad thing, but I don't think that can actually be a problem.
Yeah the animations are indeed very stiff though. I love how bones fly everywhere when you hit a skelly though.

>>3506559
it's easy to make not easy to beat

>>3506586

Don't get too happy australia, I was just being sarcastic. You're still the only ones who likes that shit.

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>>3506591
>but I don't think that can actually be a problem.
Depends on how well they're scaled to the levels.

>>3506603

If anything it makes it harder since it means bigger hitbox. But I don't think that's a problem with IV since most people find it "2 ez".

The right pic is the fan demake of MM7?

>>3506609
Well, you get used to it thanks to memorisation, but the game feels "zoomed in" compared to Mark V, or hell, even the bloody NES.

>>3506639

>Mark V

?

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>>3506639

I think it feels fine, X68000 Castlevania also has bigger sprites and I don't feel it's a problem either.

On Haunted Castle it gets annoying though, Simon is a helpless giant, slow hitbox.

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>>3506643
The actual name for the Mega Drive.

Mark I - SG-1000
Mark II - SG-1000 II
Mark III
Mark IV - Master System
Mark V - Mega Drive

>mommy only bought me the snes so i have to shit on genesis games
We're fucked as a society, aren't we?

>>3506656
Codename, not real name.

Do you also go around calling the N64 as Project Reality, the game gear as Mercury, and the Wii as Nintendo Revolution?

>>3506669
Were any of those names actually printed on the system's circuit board?

>>3506643
don't respond to him

he's an autist trying to force something, i dont know why

>>3506770

Yeah I figured. I guess people can be a bit weird sometimes.

>>3506772
>>3506770
NORMIES GET OUT

>>3505850
I wonder if Dracula took a more Bram Stoker appraoch AKA hid the fact that he was Dracula if he wouldn't get slain like every other day by belmont of the month.

I mean I know he has a burning hatred for humanity but it'd be alot easier to kill them if he wasn't getting murdered himself every other day.

X68000 does what Nintencan't!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWJ2dN22rEM

>>3507572

wtf I hate nintendo now

>>3507572
Dude they used the wrong name of that song, it's Dance of the Holy Man not Simon's Theme.

>>3507572

Child's play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbuSlaO0POU

>>3506654
>On Haunted Castle it gets annoying though, Simon is a helpless giant, slow hitbox.

Even worse if you're playing on the version where you get killed in 1 hit.

>>3507640

just 2 sound channels? sounds kind of empty. Much better than Amigavania at least.